The Phonebox Podcast With Emma Conway - Jess On The Plus Size: Fake IDs & First Nights Out

Episode Date: April 24, 2023

Who made a fake ID from a Frosties packet, really fancied Prince Harry and spent her teenage years wearing shrugs over every outfit? Jess Millichamp that's who! Jess is the amazing creator behind 'Jess On The Plus Size'. She regularly has inclusive clothing ranges on In The Style and I advise you ALL to follow her on Instagram immediately. For more of me follow @brummymummyof2 on Instagram, YouTube, Facebook and TikTok and follow the all new @phoneboxpodcast account on InstagramIf you have any guest suggestions or topics you would like me to cover email [e-mail] and be sure to tag so I can see where you are listening!Editing by Soundtruism. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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you're not with Fizz. Switch today. Conditions apply. Details at fizz.ca hello my lovely ones i hope you are well welcome to another episode of the phone box podcast with me emma conway stop what you're doing take a photo while you're listening oh that sounded like it could be a bit of all right stop collaborate all right stop take a picture where you're listening oh my i need to work on that for next week uh and send it to me on brim of two that was a mouthful but also good news we have a new whole new instagram devoted to phone box podcast so go and check that out direct message me on today's episode we have when i tell you i was laughing so hard i had to go and completely redo my makeup because jess

from jess on the plus size on instagram made me like i couldn't breathe because I was laughing so much. She's so, so funny. Her tales are fake IDs and nights out. She is phenomenal. She has an amazing range within the style, all sorts of clothes. There is a swimming costume range coming. If it hasn't already come, go and check that out. She is amazing. So please enjoy an episode with Jess. Jess on the plus size.

Go and follow her on Instagram. And I will come back at the end for a little chit-chatty. Hello Jess and welcome to the Phone Box Podcast. How are you? Hello, thank you so much for having us on. It's so exciting. So exciting. So excited to get to talk IRL as the younger people say. Do you know what, you said that and I was like oh yeah yeah I'm like I don't know what half of the things mean either. Okay so what year was it when you were 14? 2002. 2002 so are we talking is that peak what would that what would peak Spice Girls what was the peak what was the culture moment in 2002? Oh god don't even know 2002 i'm probably just trying to block it out to be honest what was on your bedroom walls did you have posters on your bedroom walls

that might like spark some memories yes that's a good way to think of it so um i had a prince harry on me one oh a 14 a 15 year a 15-year-old Prince Harry poster? I mean, you were 14, so that's fine. Well, do you know what? It probably wasn't a poster. It was probably a printout from a computer. Like, I'm going to print

that picture of Prince Harry and put that on me wall. It's in black and white. It's not for you to go around and put that on my wall. Do you still fancy him now? No, I wouldn't say so now. No.

Like, it's all right, but no. Not so much now. You had Prince Harry, yeah. Anybody else? I think probably Blazin' Squad as well. See you at the pastoral crash. That's so true.

Kenzie. I like Spikey. I have no idea who Spikey is. I'm going to have a little highlight on my Instagram. I'll find a picture of Spikey and I'll put it on my instagram spiky i feel like he was the one that like i just always like the one that nobody liked i feel like that's very much me so ever that's what people said back then was like spiky and i'm like yeah i do i think because in my head i was probably thinking which one is more likely have've actually got a chance with? If I go with the worst looking one, then I might have a chance.

That's me with Gary Barlow when I was 14. I was like, Gary? Gary's gorgeous now. We can all admit Gary's gorgeous now. But then he wasn't quite the popular. So you had Prince Harry and Blazing Scott. Lovely. Whereabouts did you grow up?

In Gateshead. Okay. Yeah you grow up? In Gateshead. Okay. Yeah. Nobody really knows where Gateshead is. It's basically over the water from Newcastle. Yeah. And you know the Angel of the North? Yes, yes, yes.

Live very close to the Angel of the North. I'm trying to think what, another post I definitely had on my wall was a footballer, Craig Bellamy. Oh, yeah. Oh, I don't know him. Was he very handsome? Again, nobody would

agree and say that he was i'll ask steven who craig because he knows all the footballers he'll be like oh i'll ask him who he was they probably be like really and somebody said they're like craig bellamy and i remember staying him out in town one night i mean i would have been probably about 16 because I definitely went to the clubs when I shouldn't have gone to the clubs. But me and my friend had just been clubbing. And when we went out, we would be dancing

and I would be a hot, sweaty mess at the end of it. And I remember walking up to the taxi and we're walking up and I was like, that's great, Bellamy, that's great, Bellamy. And I'm like, hit me, friend. And then she was just like, say something I was like I'm most sweaty after dancing at the Hong see anything like not he can't see his like this so I just like have a walk off like it's not it's not the time it's not me

time right well I guess what he do cuz I was just like look at the stairs well I think you missed a trick then you could have been a wag now I know I could be missing felony did he was he in the England team or anything? I don't think so. He played for Newcastle. Oh, right. But yeah, I don't think so. He's very hot-headed.

Oh, really? And Prince Harry has got a bit of a temper. What about Spikey, maybe? He had a temper as well, maybe. Maybe. Maybe, isn't it? I'm just like a fiery... I mean, then I'm with Millie,

who was like literally the most bastard man. Like, so laid back, like calm as car is anything but yeah maybe that was with that how funny um so what kind of secondary school did you go to that always fascinates me was it um just a normal one yeah yeah just a normal like just normal boys and girls because i went to an all-girls school you see so i'm always oh yeah so i was 18 oh a long time with all guys where were you in the hierarchy in the school you with the cool kids were you with the the quiet girls i would say middle middle of the road um so like i feel like i'll always say that our year with school was like a sort of one-off because i don't feel like there was a lot of like bullying in our like

there was there was definitely it would have went on but I feel like it was just oh yeah it was very nice and everybody like got on quite well there was definitely like the more popular kids and then there was definitely like the more like sort of peakier kids as well and I just kind of sat in the middle like my group of friends was very much weren more like a little bit like we would say chav as you would say chav oh chav yeah chavs yeah chavs we always say chav um so i definitely went through like me chav face or chav face um but then when i got the more sixth form that's when i kind of went into more of a not like gothy phase but me my social circle kind of changed a little bit like yeah i'm still friends with those people who i was like in me like chubby days with but i'm like

still also friends with me like like me really close friends as well also like the the emo kind of people who i went out like we would say like dirty goth club and that's what we used to do that's when i got to like eat me in the clubs was all like dirty goth clubbing that's what we used to do that's when i got to like eat me in the club was all like dirty goth clubbing what's the dirty what's a dirty goth club what what just like a rock night like basically like but we just always call it dirty goth clubbing my visit's like always grimy and sweaty and oh right okay yeah yeah very oh slicky floors and we used to put sticky floors it's the NX Academy in town now, which is actually the place where Millie proposed to us as well, like, while clubbing.

I know. It's so romantic. But the floors there were like an ice rink. Honestly, some of the people who hit the deck, like, really hit the deck. It wasn't so much sticky, it was more ice rinky. Well, I remember the first night that the smoking

ban came in like so we were like you used to be able to smoke in there and then the smoking ban came in i'll never forget because we're just like oh my god it stinks of chemicals like it's i've never heard the smell of smoke like it was horrible and it smelled smoke smoky as well in them days yeah oh the smoky night so you get in and your hair would stink and you'd have to have like a shower as soon as you got in it was absolutely i was telling the kids today i used to go to um an indie night at the molyneux war ramp term which is like the the football club and they're saying one night i was on the dance floor and i was like oh there's something on my shoe what do you know didn't look just lifted my foot and flicked it off it was glass

I've still got and I just splashed right through my finger just carried on I just carried on the night put a bit of tissue on I'm not going to hospital it's one it's one pound hooch here dance to the charlatans or whatever I was dancing to it's just a different type where there's now if i cut my finger i'll be like oh my god hospital okay so you're kind of middle of the road like um academically were you just kind of middle of where you're bright were you just where were you i would say i was probably brighter in my primary school and then when i got to secondary school and sort of started socializing more then education sort of slipped a little bit because socializing went off a bit more and then i would just say i was like middle of the road like i did i did okay i did all right

i didn't get any a's but i got a couple of b's so yeah like just middle of the road didn't get one single solitary a i got a couple of Bs. I think I got a B in RE. I don't even remember. At the time, things seemed so important. Like, Jesus, this is certain now. I'm like, I can't quite even remember. I know I passed some.

And it's been years since anyone has said, what did you get in GCSE physics? Nobody asked you those things. But at the time, it's gonna be it forever you're gonna have to take these certificates to every job interview you're ever gonna have for the rest of eternity so you're kind of middle of the road what was your bedroom like apart from the Prince Harry and who was his name not Sticky, Spiky spiky spiky i must say spiky what else is in your bedroom i remember when i got my phone my telephone in my room and that was like a christmas and my mom was like oh what's that noise upstairs i'm like i don't know any problems on christmas too i was i don't know what's that noise like you know like a dog like what is what is it what is it and then like run upstairs and

like should hid like she had a phone like put into the room like just like a plug in like one where i was like oh my god oh i would have i have never had a phone like that in my bedroom 45 if steve on on christmas day said what's that noise upstairs i'm gonna be like a phone in your room but did you have to wait till after six o'clock to phone people yeah but when it was free yeah of course of course yes of course totally of course nobody's phoning nobody's phoning at 5 25 no no and this was this was only if i could actually get it off my mom because she would be on the phone most of the time as well because my mom was quite young mom so she was very like on the phone with her friends all night and I'm just like oh yeah did you have any siblings to fight over the phone with or were you all right

no no just me so just me and him but me and my mum are like quite similar as well so I would say like we would just scrap on with yeah it was me and my sister and especially when me and my sister both got our first boyfriends um we the six o'clock would come and we'd be like like fighting to get down this and our phone was at the stairs so you had to sit on the stairs to make the call whilst my mom was like climbing over with like the washing and like get off the bloody phone your nan's trying to phone up and all this that and the other it was just when did you get a mobile because you might have you probably would have had mobile when you were younger than me. No, I think probably around the sort of 14 mark, I would say.

And then I would say that was when it became a problem because if you didn't have credit, I had a boyfriend at one point as well, and it was at my grandma's house, and I was just like, I'm just ringing on the phone. And then it would be a couple of times and then the phone bill came in when the mobile was sold. And then like, it would be a couple of times then the phone bell came in by when the mobile was low

and then, oh, Jack. What's that? I said. And also, we'd be on that phone to those boys for hours. What were we talking about? Because I had nothing going on in my life.

So I don't know what on earth hours. And I can still remember, I'm not going to say the number or the name of the boy. I can still remember his home phone number and I'd phone and I'd be like hello Mrs So-and-so can you speak to like real Kevin and Poo can you speak to and she'd wake up at hours I'd be on the phone to that boy it was just it was just like a different and also when I worked at Wallace and does Wallace still exist you remember the shops and oh I used to use their

phone all the time I was like free phone I was like what no customers hello it's so weird that we were like on the phone so much then because now

if anybody rings I'm just like once listening to a phone call like what are they ringing for they're like just looking at ringing and then like

once it hangs up I'm like oh sorry did you ring like is everything okay like I need a screen people me and my friend me and my friend sarah um who's the mumsy mum if she ever phoned me i would think she'd been in a serious accident because i'd be like are you woke yeah yeah like what you're

phoning for yeah yeah like if that is if it is like one of your friends i'm just saying i would answer like like what's going on because it's just like it's such a show wouldn't nobody for its voice notes now as well i love a voice oh i love oh i'm glad you love a voice note because i know some people home i'm doing full like 10 i'm like and then he said send which is but i probably should just phone to be honest but i listen to them on 1.5, do you? Do you listen to them speeded? Sometimes. It's harder with us from up here because we speak so fast.

So if you ever like 1.5, maybe. So I've got other friends who are from around here with different accents where I can put them on 1.5, but any of my friends, no. Brummies, we talk so slowly. You could put me on a three and I'd still... I'm just saying, no more. Okay, I want to know, because you are the queen of fashion,

your own little fashion ranges and you look amazing and phenomenal. And you came on and I was like, oh, she looks so gorgeous. I want to know, did you ever have a fashion faux pas and if so what was it when you were 14 when you were a teenager um oh probably loads and loads of things i think probably the biggest one that sticks out is just in general the shrug like the amount of outfit that i've spoiled by adding a little shrug cardigan like a white one in particular like a white little crocheted cardigan i say i've got so many nice things the nicest things that you could get in plus sizes when i was like a teenager

and would always add these little just horrible little shrugs on but just so you felt comfortable about like not having your arms on display do you have a black sequin one i had a black sequin one for nights out for christmas oh you've got to have your christmas one yeah really cropped it virtually just covered the tops of my arms i had one for the summer which was a white like what you said a white and then i had a black one as well i think i had like maybe like a longer beige one on some days yeah i had do you know what i have still got them upstairs i think i still got that and i'm still not a huge fan of showing the tops of my arms to be honest no i'm all about the arms thing now just because i think i look back in those pictures outfits and think well that would look so much nicer without that

horrible little cardigan like it wouldn't look better it was our support shrug wasn't it it was our support little oh yeah yeah my mom used to have like balero a range of balero jackets and she's like you can wear a balero jacket little crop jacket no no thanks mom yeah it's not too bad was there anything else that you just you thought looked cool but now you're just like oh my gosh that was like what was the fashion like then in the two in the what was it early noughties i can't even remember it was probably just i think the best time for me probably like the chubby stuff like tracksuits and things like that but again not that many that would be good fitting for me because i would have probably been getting like

boy sizes because the women's sizes just wouldn't have probably done my size um so just like ill-fitting sportswear ill-fitting i think we all have to have our ill-fitting sportswear yeah stage i'll tell you as well actually my mom wore a wardrobe as well because i could like my mom would have some clothes that I could wear from her for like the nicest selections that she had which weren't an old man's man but weren't that great yeah not like my mum with her boleros who was your first crush apart from Prince Harry did you have you don't have to say his name was there somebody at school that you were just like absolutely madly in love with. Exclusively on FanDuel Casino, where winning is undefeated.

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Especially when you write all over where you send contact details to people who are called. And you just write, oh, Jess loves such and such, or, like, forever. And then the I dot E dot E dot N dot true. What does that mean? If destroyed, even more true. But then, if you write that, and then you scribble it out, like, haha, it's not true.

Did you not do it? No, but I wish I did. If destroyed, destroyed even more true that's so funny no i didn't i didn't i didn't do that who was your first kiss with and was it everybody i've spoken to so far their first kisses have been atrocious i haven't had one person who's gone oh it was lovely everyone's been like no it was sloppy it was not not nice i was at um my grandma used to have a caravan of a quest 12 uh where we used to go to and it was just some random boy that i think i was probably about 30 like i feel like probably like nowhere you think oh it's getting like late yeah like

when he's 12 or 13 i mean really it's not that's not a late age to kick but like my daughter's 12 i'm terrified yeah but at the time you just feel like it's on this like you're on this cloth um and i mean the picture of it is actually quite romantic because it was on the sand dunes but it was like at night time and like but he was just like really like just a weird boy um and yeah it was like so i'm just uh like not like i don't think i've it was like, so I didn't just, like not like, I don't think I've seen him again ever after that. But I just thought like,

right, it's done now. Thank God for that. Everybody said that as well. It's like, right, we just, it's over with now. That's it. We're officially women

and we've just cracked on with it. It's so, it's just not like the movies, is it? You think it's going to be like this amazing, like what kind of films were you watching were you watching romantic films um probably one that saved the last dan yeah um i love her she does that funny like little dance that sometimes i see on tiktok the little

dance yeah like julia starwell yeah yeah um what else like i love that i'm like doing dancing while watching that like you know that I like doing dancing or watching that like you know watching the like your man's favourite ones you're watching

when you you know her favourite ones when she was like younger you're watching like when you're

yeah this is what I'm doing with Erin yeah we're watching Legally Run I tell you what watch Dirty Dancing

now it doesn't hold up it's inappropriate it's an inappropriate film. You're watching it and you're like, why is Jennifer Grey copping off with Patrick Swayze, who is considerably older? It is just, there's quite a few films and you're like,

oh, I don't think that would work. No, that doesn't age quite as well. No, that wouldn't. But it is a classic. It is a classic. My mum used to pay for me and my sister to go to Dirty Dancing dance classes. But but we were like i don't know seven not appropriate oh really but with no boys it's just like

let's fly in through the air real like gyrating like what is it was an absolute different time what is okay apart from we've had the support shrug slouch or whatever we called it we've had the tracky bees what was a fashion item that you loved and that you think would stand the test of time i just remember having these really bright pink trousers that are like they were just like a three quite like a capri prince almost um but they were bright bright pink and i just loved them i think because again like just going back to the not being many selections for bigger sizes it just was like nice to have a bit of like color and felt like something fun and like i

would wear them at any opportunity and i'd just really be like when i remember once like walking past um a garage like a you know like a where people work on because they're mechanics and walking past then they're like oh getting a walk with so i mean definitely inappropriate though because i would have been about 13 14 or something so horrific but at the time they're like these pants it's these bloody pants that's done that i mean disgusting really but at the time yeah no it was a different it was a different era wasn't it i i tell you what if somebody that's my errand i'd go and fight um i'd go

find them and go and fight but then but then men did just i remember a man walking past me and i would have been a similar sort of age and he was like you're gonna be fit when you're older that's not that's not a thing it is i i oh i i can't stand anything like that it gives me absolute heebie-jeebies okay Okay, what is your biggest teenage flop? Is there something that you can think of that still gives you the heebie-jeebies today? You're like, oh no, why did I do that? I was very drunk.

You said, you were going to say? No, no, just alcohol, just underage drinking. Alco-pops. You could get, it was just a different time. I used to have a fake ID and all sorts of things. Yeah, I tried to make the most horrific fake ID as well. Like, well, I did with the witch. I had, there's a part of Birmingham called Moseley

and I printed out that I belonged to Moseley Gun Club. Gun Club. Stuck a photo on and it was next to a cartoon picture of a man with a dog and like a gun and i was like let me in they're like yeah come in i remember i made mine with um uh what your frosties from the cereal frosties like you know i was sometimes used to do giveaway like bits and your cereal like there must have been doing some like sort of spy giveaway thing at the time and there was like an id like an id thing so like use the back of that to like stick on and then had a purse where you have the little window in the purse so you can put it and make it look more official like yeah yeah yeah, yeah, that's me. I said, there we go. I'm so glad times have changed because that is not normal. Letting us in at 14.

People's moms would be dropping us off. It's not like my mom and dad would never do it. It's not like I was sneaking it off, you know. Kirsten's mom was dropping us off and just going, have fun, have fun, kids. I was there, man. Let us in, we belong to them. Oh, my God, I would die. Yeah, yeah. I'm so mad. I'm a lesser. It's long time. Oh, my God.

I would die. Yeah. Yeah. Have a lovely time. You wouldn't think of it now, though, would you? But back then, like, it was fine. Like, I know that, like, my mum, she let me when I was, I think, I was 15. She, like, knew that I was.

Because my mum always compared it to, like, me friend in the street. Because, like, I think her parents, my mum viewed as, like, like me friend in the street because like i think her parents my mum viewed as like oh they're they're good parents they're like whatever she's out to do like jessica can do as well and so it was like well well is she gonna be going i'm like yeah yeah and like her mum dancing and it was true she's like right okay well i've been instead it's fine like she used them as sort of her guide um but actually that was just like local bars where my mum would drink anyway so she like knew the sort of people who would be there but when it came to going into Newcastle that was like

that's that's not my mum didn't know that I was going into Newcastle when I was yeah no it was uh it was when I used to go and stay at people's houses yeah my mum um was quite a young mum as well and when I was 18 um I'd be out with my mates and then my mom would turn up with her mates yeah yeah yeah I was like yeah yeah Christmas Eve was always the best one for us because like Christmas Eve is like everyone's I don't even see every even when we left school at this point as well it would be like every new everyone, you remember, there was all her friends as well.

Like that was always the best, best night to be out. Like some of the best time. Yeah. Christmas Eve, we used to go to a pub in Sutton on Christmas Eve. Cat Dealey turned up one year. We were thrilled. That is Birmingham royalty there. And then like Cat Dealey. Like, oh my God.

Okay. So one like huge success you had when you're a teenager and you're like yeah i bet one of me things right so this is this is when i was at uni for a little bit older and like this is still not anything to be proud of but what i mentioned you're asking what is your big success and the only thing that i can think of is when we were at uni while playing a drinking game and it was that one where it was where the four kings and you turn the cards over you have to do different things whoever turns over the fourth king you've got this like pine glass in the middle where you turn over a king you have to pour a little bit of your drink into it and then when you get the fourth king the person has to drink whatever's in it and like usually

it would be with a little glass but this time we were playing with a pint glass and it was to the top of like a mixture of stuff and I turned over the fourth king and so I was just like oh no and everyone was like yeah yeah yeah and I don't know I don't know how I slaughtered something so

quickly but I had to fall on like down like like yeah like and that is one of my most successful things I should have said when I helped charity work when I did charity work I should have said

the sweet thing that I did no no that's what I remember this is your legacy I'm like actually my makeup's smudging down my face because I'm laughing That's what I remember. This is your legacy. Actually, my makeup's smudging down my face because I'm laughing so much. Oh my God, that's really made me laugh. Okay, so I always like to end with,

are you glad you were a teenager then or do you wish you were a teenager now? I'm glad I was a teenager then because there's definitely elements of like again and going back to like the sort of body positivity stuff like if I had the sort of social media that I'm in like because I'm in my own little bubble of social media if I had that then I feel like me life would have been a bit easier maybe wouldn't have been a cost on myself for the way that I look but I do ultimately love the era

because i feel like being born in 88 i think you've got enough of your tool kind of dipped in like a life without technology but enough of a tool dipped into a life with it so like i'm not the best with technology but i'm not like what me man's like with technology like what can you order is it or like order it show us just face sometimes man show us these lights from the garden and I was just like what the hell are these and there was supposed to be big massive light bulbs but they're like little like Maltese I've got them from Facebook like shop buying stuff on Facebook man like not as bad as that but I just think being it's best of both worlds I think you've got you appreciate like what it was like without the sort of things that we've got now so yeah I definitely I'm really happy with

the sort of era and time that I've been born in I think you've got the best of both worlds yeah because I was like completely pre-social media but I do like I was talking chatting on Instagram today about how I wish I'd had people like you when I was younger and like had role models to look up to and not like covered myself or that's the thing that I really wished I'd had when I was younger and I think you can find your tribe bit can't you on social media you can find like-minded people whether sometimes you can feel a little bit alone um oh Jess like I'm literally i'm gonna have to i'm going to the theater i'm gonna have to go into all my makeup i am just that i just keep thinking about you and they're great oh god what a scallywag

oh with our fake with our fake ids oh my god i really Oh, my God, I really love it. Jess, thanks so much for going on the podcast, and I will speak to you very soon. Bye-bye. Thank you so much for having us on as well. Thank you. Bye.

Jess was such a delight. She's so funny. And I was thinking maybe in the future if I do episodes, perhaps should I upload them to YouTube? Because I do film them. And perhaps I should do that because then you could proper see us belly laughing. And I know some people have requested that they put the videos on YouTube. Let me know what you think.

Go and message me on Bromley Mummy of Two or Phonebox Podcast. And also I have an email admin at Bromley Mummy of Two. If you want to send some guest suggestions or topic suggestions, I am going to do a full boy band episode at the end of this season a bonus episode so i'm going to be chatting just about boy bands and i cannot wait if you're listening boy bands out there email me and come on gary barlow, this message is specifically for you. Right, my lovely friends, I hope you have an amazing day, whatever you're doing. I hope I kept you company on your dog walk, looking after the kiddos on the bus on the way to college, tidying your pants. I'm obsessed with you tidying your pants. I don't know why. That's when I like to listen to podcasts when I'm tidying pants. Anyway, I'm talking rubbish. I love you lots and I will see you next

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