The Phonebox Podcast With Emma Conway - Naff TV & Heavy Petting: Victoria Eames

Episode Date: February 26, 2024

Who had a rather rude encounter snogging on her parents doorstep with her first love? The hilarious Victoria Eames that's who! She calls up The Phonebox Podcast to chat about her adoration of the 90s hit show 'Changing Rooms' and how she pretended to love pop music just to fit in.You can find Victoria on instagram here or over on TikTok here.For more of me follow @brummymummyof2 on Instagram, YouTube, Facebook and TikTok and follow the @phoneboxpodcast account on Instagram for polls and nostalgic fun.If you have any guest suggestions, topics you would like me to cover email [e-mail] and be sure to tag so I can see where you are listening!#90s #90smusic #nostalgia Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Call 1-866-531-2600 or visit connectsontario.ca. Please play responsibly you every single week stop it if you see a review from roger then that's my dad so roger this one's for you so yeah on the phone box podcast this week we've got a very funny lady we've got the wonderful victoria victoria please could you tell where the people could find you oh i am on instagram as victoria eames e m e s uh that's my main sort of home on the old socials but i am on tiktok as well with the same name and i think i'm on facebook i don't know facebook's like me on me yeah it's 2003 just could you poke me on Facebook that's it just do something like that I don't know but yeah that is where I create my all my content

oh so go and find yeah we're having a good chat because this time last year we were in the house commons we were which sounds so much more like official and cool and like we were doing some sort of important work but we weren't really were we no we tried to do some important work i tell you what i was a bit disappointed about you just got a biscuit i thought we might have got a sandwich no we only got a biscuit that's correct so i was a ravenous yeah yeah and uh well it was about some what was it about watching subtitles on the tv yeah which Yeah, which is very important. But I would have liked a sandwich. I would have liked a sandwich.

What sandwich would you have gone for, though? I imagine a sandwich in the Houses of Parliament would just be a little bit crusty around the edges, do you know what I mean? Especially under a Tory government. I think, yeah, I think you might get, like, a Philadelphia and cucumber one. Yeah, a little bit of Weisberg lettuce in there.

Yeah, okay, maybe the biscuits is all right then. Yeah, yeah. It was fun. But anyway, what year was it when you were 14? Oh, my God. I should have worked this out beforehand. You did actually send me the questions. I never read them.

This is me all over. Miss unprepared for everything and another. What's your birthday? What's your birthday? On 1983. Did you see my blank stare? Then I was like, I can't look at it. So you.

I would have been 10 in 94. And then plus four. So. 98. It would have been 1998 when I was 14. I've had a lot of people on from 1998 it's a classic year you were there the spice girls birth of not the actual birth when you asked me to come this and you were like oh it's about the 90s i was a bit like oh okay i'm not sure that i'm the ideal

candidate because i wasn't into i was very weird like as a teenager but we can come on to this because that's what we're discussing but from a music perspective there wasn't a lot of popular music that I was into so okay the Spice Girls the boy bands I wasn't really into them I was kind of listening to Nina Simone Nina Simone what who else were you listening to I did like a bit of Erykah Badu I think I probably heard Erykah Badu for the first time when I was 14 and I recorded it very quickly on a cassette so but I didn't have I like missed the first like you know four or five seconds of it it's quite a long song so I had the rest so it came in at like the second verse you never knew the words the first words no I never knew the words I think there was I had to sort of pretend that I liked

pop music to fit in socially. Because obviously if you were like, oh, do you like to take that? I'm like, no, I listen to Billie Holiday and Tidy My Room. I don't think that would have gone down so well with my sort of peer group. So I do remember some songs, like Horny, Horny, Horny. That was, that was wrong. Moose Tea, Moose Tea, an absolute classic. That was when I went on the YHA week away in Wales,

which was, I'm not even sure that the health and safety sort of standards would be acceptable this day and age. We just, yeah, the freedom that we had, it was, I mean, it was fucking fantastic. The freedom, I mean, Horny, Horny, Horny was number one. Yeah, exactly. What could get better than that? I'm horny?

Around Langlachlan in the minivan. I feel like at the same time, Tom Jones, what was Tom Jones' song? That wasn't Horny, Horny, Horny, but he had a turn me on. I feel like Tom Jones sang that. Oh yeah, that's a slightly sexy one. Yeah. Sex bomb, sex bomb. Sex bomb.

Was it that one? So inappropriate, all these songs for like children essentially I tell you I did have um so I had a a very long-standing crush from like year seven to well to sixth form really he was my first ever boyfriend and um his name was James and I'm still friends with him today and oh my god like I was so in love with him but we did that classic thing where we'd be going out and then we wouldn't be going out we'd just blank each other and every time I saw him I'd be like so I was so heartbroken absolutely bereft that he wasn't in my life anymore and I did used to listen to creep my radio head on my headphones on repeat and just cry about him well because you were so broken hearted broken hearted james she broke her heart he did he broke my heart so many times so many times uh yeah i've got some funny stories

about him actually but i'm i feel like should i share them here maybe maybe granddad roger's listening i mean yeah there is one where i don't think I might be telling this because he he's got an amazing sense of humor but it was like I don't know about you but I was so innocent at that age yeah and you know I I didn't sort of do things as we used to call it at school with boys until I was in my until I was like 16 I was very you know like a virgin and even even like kissing boys was like a very sort of scary big thing but um we used to hug a lot and one time we were hugging and he basically jizzed his pants and I didn't know what was happening because I didn't know what jizzing in your pants was then I didn't know what was happening because I didn't know what jizzing in your pants was then. And he just started like convulsing and really pushing into me. And I was like, what are you doing? I don't know what's going on.

And like pulled him away a little bit. And I pulled off the fur of his of his parka coat. It's just this left standing, like holding basically a rat's tail and him having to choose his pants and being like, I've got to go home and just running away. So that was one of our beautiful moments. Okay.

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My God, not in a room in the public. No, literally, yeah. Because we used to just hang out on the street a lot you know we'd just hang out together and go and sit on a street corner or go and sit on a bench in the church across the road or whatever it was like against you just that's it a lovely little rut on the doorstep you were like what's happening and it wasn't until i actually saw a man like ejaculate many years later that I was like oh and oh my god the coincidence of this happening so this is wild

because I was like very much like very like oh I don't know I think there was a lot of shame for me around I wouldn't want people to know that i was kissing a boy or like them saying something bad so i just didn't do it um but there was uh there used to be this thing in london called camp uh what was it called it was like an under 16s disco right and they were wild like everyone was getting off of each other filth absolute filth and then one of there was a program about it and i watched the program and i saw james kissing a girl on the program and we were still supposed to be going out at that point like what is the coincidence of that happening of like me especially on social media you would have thought yeah okay but this was pre-social media i saw him kissing a girl you started you started exposing people on social media you didn't even know it.

I know. Like, what the hell? Was it like Newsround or something? What was the programme? I don't know what it was. It was like a documentary about these under-16 discos. Filth pits. Oh, I did go to one.

And yeah, they were so gross. Blimey. We've got right to the chat. I wouldn't even ask you if you had posters up in your bed. What are you telling me about somebody jizzing up your leg? We've got right to the chat. I haven't even asked you if you had posters up in your bedroom. You're telling me about somebody jizzing up your leg? We've gone fast. Okay.

Did you have any posters up in your bedroom? So, do you know what? Again, I was odd. I really liked interior decoration. I used to spend a lot of time decorating my room and making it very you know like neat and tidy and so I had a thing for cherubs like little Victorian cherubs so I had a lot of artwork that revolved around Victorian cherubs nice I'm trying to think where that would

I mean I feel like it was Vogue I don't know where would you have got the cherub where would you buy that from she was too contemporary for me I was very obsessed with the Victorian era as a child and I read a lot of Victorian literature

and I just I don't know something about that era that i was drawn to i really liked it i love them i absolutely loved it i think deep down i just wanted to be like a victorian child yeah i mean well i did like changing rooms i like changing rooms as well because that was like program yeah that was definitely on them wasn't it that was the heyday i've got an expose of changing rooms my friend um dave his brother was on changing me oh maybe it was a 60 minute makeover i feel like lawrence luellen bowen did their dining room but but the lampshade was a an umbrella oh god they were like, oh, that's nice.

That's really lovely. Do you know what? That programme and the 60-minute makeover, like who would ever sign up for that voluntarily? Because they make your house look shitter than it looked before. And you've got to undo the whole thing. I've never seen a good one. I have never seen anything other than a car crash.

Carol Smiley just like slapping on a bit of. Yeah. So bad. I was into it. I really liked it. I used to like, you know, I wanted to put, I remember putting wallpaper on my room for the first time. That was a big deal of like, can I get some wallpaper?

And going to choose it with my dad and then him showing me how to hang it and just being so excited by having wallpaper in my bedroom what a treat in like 60 minute makeover would be better because you'd have like stick on wallpaper it would be a whole different thing but then yeah absolutely but i lapped it up in fact i preferred it when they hated it yeah me too it was but it's better tv isn't it yeah it did have like a purple velvet couch with like orange paint and like a table that had a goat's head on it or something. And they're like living in Coventry. Do you like living there?

And they're like, oh, it's lovely. Okay, who was your first crush apart from Jizz Boy? Apart from Jizzy James. Yeah, Jizzy James. My first crush was on that youth holiday association holiday yeah and um there was a boy there so i would have been younger i wasn't 14 i would have been younger this i think i was like 12 when i went there and he was called oliver which is my son's name oh not that there's any association but um i just remember he looked like elijah wood so he had like dark hair very blue eyes

just cute and i fell for him so hard and then this was the saddest i mean i think i liked dramatics when i was little i still do quite a dramatic person but um he left for the holiday before i got to say goodbye to him. And I didn't get his number. This is all pre-social media and mobile phones and everything else. So I left a letter with the youth hostel for him, like confessing my love for him and be like, can you please send it to his house? And I'll tell you what, I waited for a letter back from him

and it never came. It never came it never came I was devoid but I do think he set he set my type for the rest of my life really yeah because I've always liked men with dark hair and blue eyes it's always been like a thing for me and all of that if you're listening are you out there are you out there are you all of that do you remember that little ginger twig legs and he's like nina samoa listening maybe he's got a daughter called victoria who knows i remember i fell out with a boy and he went on a school trip to the isle of arun

couldn't communicate with him and i gave a note to his friend to give when he came back, like an apology letter. The lengths we went to, it was just... That's something that the youth of today, they'll never appreciate, having to wait. It's like TV, you know, like watching one episode a week or something and having to wait a whole week for it. Like, that's just gone. It's non-existent, isn't isn't it no because now you'd just be like you just message them or

you'd stalk them on whatever they were doing but yeah aiming to google and find them yeah oh that's okay but did you fancy anybody famous elijah wood i'd say he was like i remember him being in quite a few films that were where he was kind of our age in the film yeah as well was Elijah Wood in eerie Indiana no but I did fancy him yes I don't think that was him but yeah I fancied him a little bit I mean Leonardo DiCaprio come on 100 absolute he's an absolute classic and I just Every single person. Says that. What film do they say from?

Romeo and Juliet. Yeah. Romeo and Juliet or Titanic. And then I'm going to pose you the question. I can see your door now. There's a knock on the door. You open it. It's Leo.

Yeah. Does your heart still flutter today like it would have done then? Or you're like, not for me, Leo. No, because he likes really young women and that really puts me off him. So, no. I'll tell you what I loved him in, Basketball Diaries. That is a great film. I mean, it's definitely...

Oh, my God, I've never seen it. It's nothing like Romeo and Juliet and Titanic. It's quite gritty and it's about him and he's like, yeah, comes from sort of quite a rough background and it's just his and he's like yeah comes from um sort of quite a rough background and it's just his struggle in that environment and trying to get out of the the cycle of like um drug taking and poverty and all the rest of it it's really good and he's very young in it he's yeah um who's eating gilbert grape oh i love that one that's a flippling classic he's very good but

sadly we're not his type And I say No unfortunately not I've got I'm 15 years too old Screw you Leo Screw you Leo Shove it up your bum If you knocked on my door

I'd Well I'd I'd let you in I'd let you in I'd be very excited I'd have a selfie And I wouldn't say Any of this to your face

So Leo I hope you're not listening I don't fancy Elijah Wood now When he's older Either I don't even know What he looks like Elijah Wood could knock on my door And deliver me a parcel I wouldn't even know It now when he's older either. I don't even know what he looks like. Elijah Wood could knock on my door and deliver me a parcel.

I wouldn't even know it was him. And the other one who I feel like he's kind of very similar to Leonardo DiCaprio's, Jared Leto. Another. Hello. He's actually, yeah, he's fitter than Leonardo DiCaprio, I think. I fancied him more. Because Jordan Catalano from My So-Called Life

is one of the best characters. Yeah, that was brilliant. Playboy human. Absolutely loved it. The way he grabbed her hand and walked down the corridor and she was in a lumberjack shirt and a little dress and Doc Martens injected into my veins. I love it.

However, if my daughter turned up with him I'd be terrified I'd be like we ain't having no Jordans in this house red flag red flag get lost he's horrible you don't barely says a word get him out um but yeah doesn't need words there's just one season of it bring it back it was just so good it was was. It was just so heartbreaking. Okay, so we've talked about what kind of music you like. Where did you fit in the hierarchy of school? I don't think I was one of the popular people. I couldn't even really name who the popular people were. It didn't feel like that very clear hierarchy of these are the cool kids.

There were some, like, nerds. There was some like nerds. There was definitely nerds. I wasn't in that group because I wasn't clever enough. And then there was just sort of everyone else. And I fit into that sort of thing. And I hated school. I absolutely hated it. Yeah, it was total shit I had a very um toxic female

friendship that was like the passive aggressive not blatant bullying but definitely bullying and very controlling behavior so she made my life a misery so I really hated school and then I had my other little breakaway group of friends who were all really lush and lovely and I kind of like they were quite separate and I had to sort of lie about that lot because you know she was so controlling and it made school a really difficult time and she was in my form class so you know that every day you go to school with that feeling of like what's she gonna be like today because she was so Jekyll and Hyde and sometimes I'd walk in she'd be like oh my god yes no mate and the other time she just totally blanked me and you'd be like oh that unhinged behavior makes you so anxious doesn't it does it makes me really fearful like

my I think it's a very female behavior that type of um especially at that age and I it really worries me about my daughter going to school as well you know like oh just the worst thing that could happen is that she could end up in know, like, oh, just the worst thing that could happen is that she could end up in a friendship like that. Yeah, I think the good thing is about nowadays, I think the communication between, I feel like the communication between me and my daughter is, I think people are more likely to call it out and say,

like, this is happening. Or even, like, tell an adult, I think, whether we would never have done that, would we? No, and also I think if we had, to call it out and say like this is happening or even like tell an adult I think whether we would never have done that would we and also I think if we had it would have been like oh well she's not hurting you so just get on with it that's what you've got to do it's kind of that isn't it it's the trope the old 90s 80s 90's such a weird a weird thing if he if he hits you yeah because he fancies you little boys shouldn't be pinching nobody so i i really changed that definitely that dialogue has changed yeah because now i'm like no if they're mean to you they're just assholes and run it run as far

as you can as humanly possible yeah school is it school isn't always perfect for everybody is it so the things that I liked about school though so I was always in the plays I was always in the theatrical you know I loved I loved music um I performed like a lot with music and do the concerts and I absolutely love being in the school plays like for me drama was like my my favorite subject but I never wanted to be an actress or anything I just really enjoyed it I liked the freedom of it and it was fun it didn't feel like you were having to learn anything so that was probably yeah like something that I really threw myself into at school and so I don't even think we had like thespian kids or anything it was just a very

average normal like state school you know there was nothing spectacular about it but definitely not I would definitely not say that I was like a popular kid no um did you have like a fashion faux pas what were you wearing were you wearing Victorian clothes whilst you've being jizzed on. I wear bodices and I wore... I did have a corset. I love the corset. Very short skirts, though. Yeah, you know, like clueless kind of vibes. That was my aim of fashion.

I never achieved it, but that's what I really liked. And I used to go down this place called Font Hill Road Market in Prinsbury Park so I'm from London grew up in London and it was like um wholesalers but on a weekend you could go and get like absolute dirt cheap clothes and this is you know before we had Primark and all that sort of stuff it was kind of the equivalent of that and some of the shit I used to buy there oh my god like I had like a two-piece suit that was like ream with a satin rose print on it so you couldn't quite see the it wasn't really obvious but it's just there a little shimmer in the right light and I had two versions of it so I had the trouser suit and then

I also had like a dress that you could wear underneath it too. But yeah, I definitely always like wore short skirts and little pinafores and things like that. Did you ever wear the suit with just a bra? Because that was one of my classics. I had a purple satin suit and just a wonder bra. Oh no, I wouldn't have done that. Because I had no tits until I was 16. So I was very self-conscious about my boobs because they were completely non-existent.

I had nothing. I would wear two or three windows. Yeah, just get something. So I was like, I couldn't breathe. But I was like, well, I look nice. And then literally my boobs, they just appeared overnight. It was so bizarre. I literally woke up with tits.

It's so weird. And I had the worst stretch marks as well, which my nan, who's a brummie, she's like, those are never bloody going I was like, oh thanks nan and they did go you need some bio oil are they going to stay this colour?

I said, perhaps you're like, yeah they're going to stay that colour forever and you're like, oh that's not thanks nan did you wear anything then that you would wear today uh i definitely like i'm not into crop tops or anything like that i had my i had my midriff on on display a lot when i was that age um so i don't do that now because you know no i'll just i'll be

cold for one yeah no i'm not sure i've ever wore crop tops and stuff. I wore the suit with the bra. I enjoyed a short A-line skirt. Yeah, the A-line skirt. That was a classic. In that kind of material that was really flammable. You're like, if there was one little, if one boy smoked a cigarette near my bottom, I would be up in flames. I also enjoyed a tartan trouser.

Yes. I have a lot of tartan trousers. I had the skirts, a lot of my skirts were tartan. And I used to be such a sucker for like a magazine. So I'd get just 17 and I'd just see something in there and then obsess over getting something similar. So much in the same way that these days, you know, influences, influence young girls.

It was the, it was happening. It was just in a different medium. It was, you know, magazines. it was happening it was just in a different medium it was yeah there's sometimes I'm watching TikTok and I am leaving a TikTok to go and buy whatever absolute dross please don't tell anybody if anybody's listening keep this to yourself that's how I got ended up with a pair of platform crocs oh my god you've got platform crocs oh i'm not sure victoria when i tell you the fart noise they made seriously when i walk because they're sandal platform crocs and i was on tiktok and i must have seen six literally six oh gosh so first one i was like unusual platform crocs and then by the sixth, I was like, unusual platform Crocs.

And then by the sixth one, I was like, why haven't I bought these before? This is madness. I bought them. And the fart noise they make when I wear them is indescribable. I can imagine it, mate. It's a fanny fart with every step, basically. Oh, God. What was I thinking? I'm so bad for it, though, that I have bought so much tat off TikTok.

And it doesn't even take six videos. I'm so bad for it though I have bought so much tat off TikTok because and it doesn't even take six videos I'm hooked in like the first 30 seconds I'm like yeah buy that buy that like especially anything to do with skincare you're like yeah I've got the big I mean I've got I mean the big headband that everybody had on TikTok I just like oh I'm like oh

I want to go and try a viral thing I did the glycerin and rose water thing that's shit by the way it's like someone has literally just all over your face it's so sticky it's rubbish i was like this is rubbish and then i was like this is amazing it's transformers good i tried the flaxseed viral botox mask um yeah hello i had an allergic reaction have you ever done slugging oh yes which is where you get vaseline and you cover your whole face like seriously come on i was reading about it i was almost gonna do it and then i i didn't do it

what happened to your skin absolutely nothing and then i and then i thought this cannot be healthy your pores are just like there's nowhere but i was like steven i'm slugging i'm slugging before bed and he's like you are you like look at drwellian yeah he's like oh slugging and he looks at me he's like oh no that's terrible yeah um okay so if uh you could grow up now would that be preferable or are you glad you grew up then oh I think I'm glad I grew up then I think the main thing especially because you know social media is our job so we are acutely aware of the darker side of it I suppose and um I think knowing how I was when I was that age and how easily influenced I was and how much I wanted to fit in I think to have that constant noise online of like this is what you should look like and this is the

skin like you know like these 10 year olds going to sephora and spending like five fucking grand on skincare like what the fuck like that kind of stuff i'm i'm just really glad that i didn't have that because i was insecure enough as it was i really was so i i think it was a it was just simpler you know and and also the bullying thing because I think I used to go home and then I knew I was safe because I was home and there was no like there was no access to me there was a telephone and sometimes you know that girl would call me or whatever but generally when I was home I could like relax and I think if you had a mobile phone and you were able to be contacted there's no turning off from it is there no and I did I used

to work in a secondary school before I did all this and so I did see you know like just how bullying can happen on these snapchat and all the rest of it and like just how quickly stuff can escalate and yeah yeah I'm just I'm glad that I didn't have to be exposed to that. So definitely say, and I'd never ever want to go back and do it again, ever. No, thanks. No, you're happy where you are now. I think getting older is so underrated

because you just lose all of that insecurity and the need to fit in. I don't have that in the slightest anymore and I just feel so much more comfortable and confident in who I am and that I don't have to please anybody else and I'm just doing it for me I'm not doing it for anybody else like you know and I I'm confident in my choices like I can say yeah I love Niamh Simone whereas but then it's like oh no I'm really not popular like me I would say right because i think that would have yeah was when you said that to me that sounded like you were cool teenager no it no it was because

i didn't have any peers that were on the same level so it didn't feel cool it felt very much like almost a bit shameful and like i had to hide that i suppose the positive now would be that you would go online and find the people positive yeah would be a positive. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. You'd find a YouTube channel that is dedicated to teenagers who don't need a smoan. It exists. I tell you now there'll be one that exists because you can find anything on the internet. So yeah, that is the positive.

Is there anything then that you would have classed as real teenage success? Surviving it. You survived. Oh my God. Just because we're talking about teenage can i just tell you the funniest story about something that happened to me in year seven 100 go i i was a really terrible eater when i was a child like i from the age of two i just never ate anything oh um i only eat chocolate mousse and toast that was kind of like my remit and i honestly used to

get so constipated it was really bad and so I'd only do a shit like every five days or something and then when it happened I had to go so I was at a party in year seven and the urge to do a shit came and I was like oh my god I have to go to the toilet so I went to the toilet and it was a rickety old like you know in the eight like the 90s we had that I don't know they're like slatted kind of wooden doors that you can just read. And the kids outside were turning the light on and off and rattling the door when I was in the toilet. And I did the shit, absolutely panicking, just like get it out, get it out.

And I never used to sit on the toilet when I was at someone's house because I'd be worried about the germs. So do a business. The light's been going on and off i need to get out of there get to the door open the door the lights come back on and one of the kids like what's that turn around i'd laid a log on the toilet seat and i was like and the kid's like what is that and you're like and so i had to run over and literally punch the turd into the toilet bowl and be like oh yeah it was a hilarious joke it was just a chocolate mini roll and they believed

it i got away with it but can you imagine the level of humiliation stress it was like my first ever party in year seven that was going to set the tone for the rest of my secondary school that would have been now they'd have took a photo and you'd have been turd girl party turd girl party turd girl they'd make memes of you and it would be you just punching a poo into a toilet that's what i mean thank god it wasn't in this day and age because somebody would have filmed it somebody would have filmed it you'd have been going for a job interview and then they'd have been like yeah you partied her girl and you were like oh i have to get a full new facelift not me even then you can't run away from it if it goes viral it goes international you're fucked yeah i couldn't oh my god i'm gonna say that is a flop that was a teenage that was definitely a flop teenage plot I don't think I have any

teenage successes I've honestly does anyone does anyone that comes on here say yeah this happened it was great yeah sometimes but sometimes sometimes I like the ones that are very like shallow like I pulled a boy that I really fancied I'm like yeah good yeah you did or sometimes somebody'll be like I got a B in drama I'm like brilliant oh right oh no not bothered by any of those things they're just like standard life things aren't they but no they're just standard life things yeah so if you can go back go back to then and speak to victoria what would you say to her yeah i'd say stop worrying about what people think about you it's really insignificant and actually you'll be surprised at how people how much people really do like the real you so just let that sort of be and don't feel like you have to you know fit in or impress people just be yourself oh i

love that sentiment it's hard for teenagers to understand that but as you get older you realize um that just being yourself is better than than me pretending i like the cure i didn't know any other songs i would in my cure t-shirt if anybody asked me name a song i'm screwed he's got big black hair that's all about that's all i know but thanks so much for coming on this episode victoria be sure to go and follow her on instagram and the tiki toki thanks so much for listening to another episode of the Phone Box Podcast. I'll be back next week. Dad, can't wait to see you again. Please, Rog.

I'm excited. We'll be on tenterhooks. I'll let you know as well, Roger, that I called my husband Roger at the altar and it's not his name. Right, guys, I will see you next week

for another episode. See you later, Victoria. Goodbye. Bye. I do.