The Phonebox Podcast With Emma Conway - Overcoming Bullies, TLC & Fancying Peter Pan: Cherish Reardon (Popsy Clothing)

Episode Date: January 6, 2025

The Phonebox Podcast is back for Season 7! We are kicking off with Midlands legend and the wonderful co founder of Popsy Clothing, Cherish Reardon. 2005 was a pivotal time for her growing up. We chat about her experiences with bullying and how she overcame them. She also confesses her love for Michael Owen and Peter Pan not the cartoon but Jeremy Sumptor of course!Watch us on YouTube here.Follow Popsy Clothing on Instagram.Follow Popsy Clothing on Facebook.Visit Popsy Clothing.Popsy Clothing Frocks and Friends.For more of me follow @brummymummyof2 on Instagram, YouTube, Facebook and TikTok and follow the @phoneboxpodcast account on Instagram for polls and nostalgic fun.If you have any guest suggestions, topics you would like me to cover email [e-mail] and be sure to tag so I can see where you are listening!#00s #00smusic Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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enjoy the number one feeling winning in an exciting live dealer studio exclusively on fan duel casino where winning is undefeated 19 plus and physically located in ontario gambling problem call 1-866-531-2600 or visit connectsontario.ca. Please play responsibly. Hello and welcome back to a brand new season of the Phone Box Podcast with me Emma Cormier. I think it's season seven. How the devil are you? I hope you have the most amazing festive season and a happy new year to you. Now don't forget these podcasts are now available on YouTube as well as all your streaming platforms. So if you want to see my face, I mean, I've even put a little bit of lipstick on today and my guest has got beautiful lipstick on. I highly recommend you go and check out on YouTube

or of course we're going to be on streaming platforms every week. I've got some great guests lined up for this season and do remember it's a bit different in 2025 I'm only going to be on air that makes sense podcasts when the kids are at school so school holidays there'll be no podcasts but we'll be putting up like vintage podcasts old podcasts I'll probably upload in some of the older episodes to YouTube so go and check those out right the lady in question with the most beautiful lipstick is Cherish good good morning Cherish and welcome to the podcast. Thank you, thank you so much for having me. Now Cherish, you don't know this but you've been my personal stylist for the past few years. Many events I have turned up in one of your

gorgeous creations so can you tell the people where they can find you? Yeah so I am, I'm Cherish Reardon from Popsisy clothing um we design and manufacture mainly women's clothing in the midlands um and you can find us on www.popsyclothing.com and you have hardcore funds we do that is one way we have a massive community we do like what is it have they got like a name is it what it's not the popsy, what is it? Have they got like a name? It's not the Popsi Girls. What is it? What do they call themselves? Popsi Pretty.

Whenever I post anything to do with wearing Popsi, these people just pop up and they just, yeah, and they just got loads of outfits. Can't wait for this drop in a couple of weeks. They just love it, don't they? They are. Honestly, they're amazing. And like, if you post something, I know that customers are going to be like oh it's popsy in

the wild like they love it yeah yeah they absolutely love it and i highly recommend um your jumpsuit and my favorite they've got pockets i've got several um absolutely and i don't because i have a little bit of a tum which is no problem but my tum does not look like a tum in the jumpsuit, and I don't understand how that, I don't know if it's the way it's cut, oh, but they're lovely. Oh, thank you. Yeah, you all look really good as well, don't you? Yeah, oh, I wore that sparkle, I wore it the other day,

I just blooming love it. I wore the Christmas one the other day, just, oh, it's my favourite. But, okay, we're going to crack on. Now, Cherish, you are youth, you are a younger person on the podcast. Oh, I don't feel it, Emma, I don't feel it. You are youth you are a younger person on the podcast I don't feel it Emma I don't feel it you are youth so um can you tell the people when you were 14 please I was 14 in 2005 2005 now 2005 we were just discussing because I like to look up the music or the film so we're going to do the music and I was like not sure what I was, but I don't remember some of these songs. Okay. So could you have a little guess of the top selling?

You never, if you get, guess this. If you watch on YouTube, I'll flash because I don't think you will guess this. What was the best selling single of 2005? 2005. Oh, 2005. was it Where is the Love I feel like that was going to laugh for a split second I thought you were going to guess

what it was going to happen no flashing this time is this the way to Amarillo never would have got it it would never have entered you because why would you get it so it was Tony Christie is with Is the way to amaranth and it was um comic relief song and it had peter k in it remember he was like walking wasn't he it was like that was like a

good one yeah but you never you're never gonna get this other top song we have had this on the podcast before i'm gonna give you a clue it had an animal singing it an animal singing it or an animal like feature not the frog not the frog you got it you got it got it crazy frog you've got crazy frog also james blunt you're beautiful was the fourth best selling selling single of the year and spent 13 consecutive weeks in the top 10 with five straight weeks at number one and i do like that song i think that's a really nice song was the fourth best selling single of the year and spent 13 consecutive weeks in the top 10 with five straight weeks at number one and I do like that song I think that's a really nice song I like I can't believe that was 2005 that doesn't seem that long ago yeah let's just say it was last

week and that we're just really we're just really really young so we had the Amarillo, Crazy Frog or James Blunt so that was 2005 in a nutshell. Okay. So where were you growing up when you were 14? So I was growing up in Tamworth. I was obviously still with my mum, still living with my mum and dad, obviously at 14. 14 was a really difficult age for me. So that was at the time when I was sort of pulled out of school. I had quite a lot of high school bullying. And so at 14, my mom and dad pulled me out of school and I did a little bit of homeschooling. So that was like a really key part of my life of sort of where I sort of changed, I guess. Yeah, 14.

Oh, gosh, I'm so sorry about that. We've had a few we've had a few guests have come on who struggled a bit in school with bullies and it's really really really awful I'm hoping do you think schools are a bit better equipped for that kind of thing now I'd like to think so I've got two little girls so I like to think so but then obviously now you've got the social media you've got everything that that brings and my worry is it sort of doesn't happen just at school anymore. You know, you can come home and the kids are all online to each other. That's my concern. I know you've got a daughter as well.

So it's probably something that's crossed your mind. But it is. Kids can be horrible. Yeah, at least back in the kind of the day, we could just shut the door and you're at home with your mum and dad. You've watched the telly. There was no kind of like constant. You have to be quite strict when they've got phones and make sure they're not on them too long we have ours that go off at a certain time because

some kids just like phoning up at two o'clock in the morning and it's like what are you doing we're not doing a whole class phone call at two o'clock in the morning okay now Tamworth has it got a castle or have I invented that? It has. It's got Tamworth Castle. I'm so proud of her. It's got Tamworth Castle and we've got Drayton Manor as well. Drayton Manor is what, guys, if you're listening and you've never been to Drayton Manor, go.

Because it's really underrated. It's so good. Little gorgeous theme park with a zoo. If you've got kids into thomas tank engine it's beautiful i must have been there 400 million times when my when my daughter was um a toddler it was 20 pound for a year's pass for a year's pass for two of us yeah for a season ticket 20 man so me and her oh my it was raining we go to the soft play we don't want to go in the we'll go around the zoo yeah you've got to go make it make 2025 the year you go to Drayton Manor because

it's gorgeous and it's in the middle of the countryside and it's just wonderful okay so you were pulled out of school so what did homeschooling look like for you at home because I suppose that was like a new thing then really wasn't it yeah I mean we say homeschooling but um the teachers at the school that I left they used to send like massive pages of printed off stuff and it would be like my mum and dad going through it with me um so I think I did that for around six months and then I went to a really lovely little school in Cannock um I wouldn't have been able to cope with sort of the big classes of 30 so thankfully there was a headmaster heard about

the story and um like my mum was a student at the time but he was amazing and I went to a really small school in Tannock um yeah and I did my GCSEs there and I left there when I was 16. So you were just much better settled in kind of like the smaller setting. Because like secondary schools are super intimidating. There's loads of kids. There's loads of like different, like your senses. I mean, when I was a teacher, like it's a lot. There's a lot going on. So I suppose 2005, there wasn't the internet, was there, to do homeschooling?

No. We were on the internet. Yeah. We used to have a little dial-up, the AOL. Yeah. We used to have, you know, the little dial up, the AOL. Yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like there was nothing for like homeschooling. You know, I think COVID really brought that on where people were a bit more aware of doing it online.

But yeah, there was nothing like that. Oh, yeah. The days of Teams lessons during COVID, i shall never forget what am i there's it was just like because no one had like the kids didn't have the etiquette so like my son would be sat there doing his teams and then you just did the chat and it would just be like these kids just like a bum like oh boobies and you let it go can we all please stop commenting in the chat? I'm going to turn the chat. It was just like such a strange time. Okay, what was your bedroom like at that age? Did you have posters up?

I did have, I have posters up. And I've always had a really, really colourful bedroom. Even from when I was young, I had a really colourful bedroom. Well, it was always messy. I don't know what it was always messy but really bright really colorful I had posters up all the time um yeah and my bedroom was like my little safe space I used to go used to be my little retreat I could shut the door um yeah that it was always been my safe space my bedroom who was in the posters was it posters of things or was it posters of people uh people what people

so it would be like michael owen you know like the football of people you know you used to get like your magazines and used to cut your posters out stick them on with blue tack michael owen we all our mind was lee sharp and ryan gig that's who i used to have a mind obviously my dad's a villas supporter so that wasn't going to go down very well. So, Michael Owen, did you have any pop bands up or pop stars? FanDuel Casino Daily Jackpots. Guaranteed to hit by 11pm with your chance at the number one feeling, winning. Which beats even the 27th best feeling, saying I do. Who wants this last parachute?

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Switch today. Conditions apply. Details at fizz.ca. You know, I don't think, I think it was all the football. I wasn't even into football, but yeah, it used to be like. Just the boys. Football is yeah. I wasn't even into football but yeah it used to be like just the boys footballers yeah I wasn't even into football I just like boys do you know what same but what kind of music did you listen to I always listened to like R&B so my mum always used to listen to like a lot of music around the home she's like Gabrielle TLC yeah I grew up on that sort of music yeah I love TLC they're so good so good yeah um so then yeah so then I listened like a lot of Destiny's Child um Whitney Houston I used to love as well um so

yeah my mum was like a big influence on the music that I listened to oh that's nice see my dad just loved Bruce Springsteen so that was just he absolutely the boss oh he absolutely went to see him uh last year oh he just absolutely flipping loved it right i need to know your first celebrity crush please apart from michael owen was there anybody else that you just like it was just michael owen no no i remember i went to the cinema can you remember the peter don't know what year it came out. Yes. I think it's like Jeremy somebody, Jeremy Sculpt. So it wasn't Hook? Was it Hook? No, it wasn't Hook.

Oh, okay. The one who played Peter Pan, I remember sitting in the cinema and thinking, I've actually fallen in love. He could fly, he could do everything. I think his name's like Jeremy. I'm going to have to find out his name for you. He could fly. could do everything i think his name's like jeremy i'm gonna have to i'm gonna have to find out he could fly do you know what guys i'm gonna i'll insert a little picture here so people can see like he could fly i was so impressed i feel like he might did he

have like blondie hair blonde kind of like a bit curly like yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So our equivalent maybe back in the day was, did you ever see when Casper went from ghost to human boy? That was, yeah, yeah. That was a similar sort of like, so Casper the ghost for one evening or whatever with Christina, he turned into a human boy. And that was a very similar, I feel like he was like a blonde,

like kind of like floppy haired, like so you're madly in love with him then yeah i was yeah yeah okay if there's a knock at the uh your office now and you open the door and it's michael owen in a tuxedo would your heart still flutter you know probably not actually no no probably not sorry michael if you're listening. I'm really sorry, Mike. Who? I mean, I'm not saying definitely no, so we could try it. Let's try it. If he wants to knock on the door.

Do you know what? Michael, scrap that. If you're listening, get in your Porsche and come down and go knock on the door. Okay, who would knock on the door and your heart would flutter now? I feel like I'm really bored. I feel like just just greg and i work with him he knocks i know how boring i know i saw the face of disappointment i'm so disappointed i could i could reel off 40 people who could knock at the door and i'd be thrilled just a little cheeky knock we're not saying you have to kiss them but you could maybe have a selfie just a little knock a little cheeky selfie have a little think and if it comes if it comes halfway through the episode just scream it out to me right you're well known for beautiful

fashion beautiful dresses jumpsuits you've got you've got blooming dressing gowns which my mom's head nearly exploded when she saw it what kind of fashion were you wearing were you always stylish no absolutely not no um I think because I had such a tough time at school I always wanted to wear things that never ever stood out I would literally be in like a baggy t-shirt jeans I used to always wear like dark colors and just never wore anything that someone walked down the street I think oh that was a nice top or that, you know, it just blended in, which is really mad because now obviously it's dinosaurs, it's rainbows. You couldn't get any more colourful.

Yeah, it's like you're really rebelling against your kind of like teenagers. So it was just like jeans, baggy T-shirts and trainers. Yeah, literally that. Yeah. Was there anything you wore then that you might consider wearing now no I did used to have had a pair of these boots uh I was younger than 14 and I remember seeing them in new look and it was my birthday and I asked my mum for these boots and they had like in my mind the heel was like that but there was probably only a small heel and I asked my mum them for them for my birthday and I remember

seeing them in the wardrobe like a week before my birthday and she got they were knee high um so yeah that was the first thing that I remember wearing that I felt really special in oh nice but you were into death didn't you oh they used to peel off they were too small you know you're trying to squeeze your feet into them but that feeling I try when we're doing our designs I try and think of that feeling of like how I want people to feel in there like I want them to feel how I did in those boots oh that's so nice yeah and also they did not make boots well in them days they would be just falling apart especially i used to wear like a kitten heel and the heel would come through the plastic you'd just be like walking on metal and you'd be like oh yeah or um

primark ballet do you have ballet shoes and they would just they'd get wet and i'm i'm sure they were made out of like cardboard and you they just disintegrate on your feet like you were just walking on the floor you just I might as well have just walked on the floor and then you'd be like I'm just gonna dry them out wear them next time and they absolutely stood um so when you went to your new school where did you kind of fit in the hierarchy or you're just kind of like quiet together and yeah because it was such a small school um everyone had like really different personalities so you still had like big personality you've had your quiet one but because there was so few of us everyone just fit in if that meant like we were all like a real family and it didn't

matter what your personality was like you were just accepted but who you was it was really really lovely oh is the school still there it is yeah i went about a month ago actually to do a talk with the students oh lovely yeah so you feel really small when you went in it did you know like i imagine the field like was massive in my mind and then you're going like it's not that big actually it's just how you perceive it isn't it yeah when I drive past my because my mum and dad kind of my friends are similar to my my old primary school and you drive past it and you write the field in your head was this like magical place with flowers and all that and you're like oh no it's just like a little tiny like a little bit rubbish really isn't it

it's not that good so when you finished school 16, did you go to college or what did you do? So I finished school at 16 and then I went to Sutton College to do my A-levels. And I failed them. I've done posts about this, but I failed my A-levels. And then I went to Tamworth College to do a business BTEC course. Yeah. Passed that and then I went on to uni. A-levels are kind of hard.

A-levels are really hard. Honestly, they are so hard. A-levels are kind of hard. What would you pass a business for now? Oh, I certainly wouldn't pass an A-level now. I think I'd struggle to pass maths GCSE now to be honest I agree and it's just great to pass at the time um now my daughter's in secondary school so it's very different we all find the same that it's not ABCs anymore it's like numbers I don't understand yeah the I don't

understand the numbers oh so you're working to a level whatever I'm like I don't know what that I'm like is that a C and she's like well it's kind of a C or there's two types of C's like I don't know what you're talking about what does this why did they change it and for me like isn't nine the highest and then ones like I would have thought number one was like the highest yeah so but I don't yeah I don't understand but also like nine is the highest but it seems to be like an a star like i don't understand do you know what i just want them to pass yeah just like tell me what a pass is and if you get that that's good that's all i want just pass yeah all all i want for my kids from secondary school is to pass and be happy that's it and anything more than that

is an absolute bonus okay so if when you're at secondary school is there anything you would have considered a bit of a flop or that you kind of think back and think oh I messed up a bit there probably before before I went to my school school small oh small school um I remember the first time getting drunk and it was it was or it was really bad they used to do we used to call it kiddie cube used to like an under under 17s like little night club yeah and my friends like oh have a little bit of um frosty jacks remember the cider frosty jacks no what's frosty jacks it's like you, I used to get a big litre one for like £3. You put a bit of squash in to make it taste better.

Yeah, and I got really drunk. Like a cider and black? Yeah, like a cider and black, yeah. Just not good. Oh no. So how old were you then? Like was that 14? I was, I think I was sort of top end of 13 don't say that my daughter

literally just turned 14 this makes me i know i would simply pass away if she came back and she's like living her best life what were you thinking i know were you sick I was sick and my dad came and picked me up I was good for six months six months Emma I was grounded for um and I remember waking up in the morning like I'm never doing that again and my mom came in she put my lights on and she was like right you're off to school that was it I went to school oh my god I bet you were dying. Yeah, I know. It wasn't good. So that's the one thing, like, I actually look back and think, oh, I wish I hadn't done that.

I think it's a rite of passage. And I think most people, maybe not in the world, but in England, will have a similar story. I always remember my mom having to go and pick up my sister from a friend's house and bring, I think it was a Spice Girls bucket so she could be sick in the car on the way home. We've all been there. We've all done it.

But when my children do it, I will be fuming. That's the thing. I'm like, oh, I can't cope with it with my own children. I can't even bear the thought of it. I think, like, people are going to listen to this and watch this again, Emma, you're a fool. I think maybe the generations are not quite like that so much. Drinking doesn't seem to be such a big thing.

Yeah, I agree. Well, I've got a younger sister. She's 24. Yeah. And even that generation, I mean, they don't really go out drinking much no right into like the health stuff which is brilliant yeah I wasn't like that when I was relate not me but no I do think you're right I think the generations are changing a little bit which is good good yeah they seem to be like into self-care and personal growth and relaxing and good because I had a fake ID and I was in

clubs at 14 I don't want that for my children thank you much but is there anything you class as a real success I mean obviously you move schools which is a brilliant choice but is there anything else your class is a real success you know probably just getting through my GCSEs um I didn't I didn't do brilliant I just did probably average but I managed to come out of my GCSEs that's probably yeah yeah happy and you passed that's all you wanted that's all you want yeah you just want to pass and like you know what no one has asked me for my GCSE maths results in a decade i can't even remember them like oh i gotta see and i'm sure they just gave it me out of sympathy of that just just do you know what just passer just passer because this is and i remember when when you become a teacher you have to um do some little

tech i mean i don't know if you still do but you have to do like a little maths test a little english test i did i did fail i had to reset it I had to go reset I'm like whoops failed that one but it builds character builds character Emma exactly it builds character if you could go back in time and have a little word with 14 year old Cherish what do you think you'd tell her I would tell like I would like I know it's going to work out and I feel like when you get older you find your own your own group of people so high school wasn't the best but actually as you get older it's quite cool to be uncool if that makes sense yeah you don't need to fit in you don't need you know I used to try and talk like the cool kids and it just sounded ridiculous but yeah just everything

works out in the end and just be yourself I think that's all all you can do isn't it it's all you can do and you found such a wonderful community now like could you imagine like 14 year old cherries just having to leave the school and if she knew you'd have all these like amazing like it just like you know thousands and thousands of women like turning up and you know and also like we wear your clothes like really fun events you're like you know it's like Christmas parties or like you I bet you had a few like Eurovision or pop concerts and stuff like that it's um yeah it's really exciting isn't it okay so we talked about social uh media earlier how do you feel about social media are you glad that you grew up without it? Or do you think there are positives to it?

I am really thankful that social media wasn't about when I was younger. I think that there's a lot of pressure that comes with social media. And like interestingly, obviously, my business is mainly on social media, but with the the girls like they are not allowed social media yet um and it's a really tough balance because you know a lot of their friends have it yeah it's really really difficult um so yeah I have a love-hate relationship with social media I think there's really lovely sides so you've got your community and you know you've got that togetherness and there's also that side that's just not very nice um yeah it's how old are your girls again how old are they 11 and 8 okay so at what point are you gonna cave in are you gonna wait till they're teenagers or are you gonna wait till they're 20 you know if i cannot i'm thinking like 30 30 Emma when they move house it's really really difficult like even their faces like I don't have their faces on social media yeah and my eldest she's like

you know can I do a video with you can I do and she's a little bit and it's just really difficult um I think something that I've learned because my daughter's now in year nine I think our fears are bigger than the actual reality I think what I found is that um they were born in an age of like social media and tablets and stuff and they their brains are much they can cope with it better than us like it would we wouldn't have been able to cope because we just didn't have this but it isn't as bad as you think it's going to be. And actually, they kind of find it a bit boring. And they kind of find it a bit like Instagram for old people, Facebook for old people. They're like, oh, I don't want to see you on Instagram, you loser.

I'm like, oh my God, Charmin. So it's not quite as bad. But yeah, it is. I remember giving my kids their phone and I was like but they weren't allowed social media for a long time but I was like handing it over like no this is the end it's horrible it's so horrible but the positives are for example um my children can just facetime their their grandparents yeah like how lovely is that I can be lying in bed and my daughter is sending me

you know a funny a funny tiktok she's seeing and that's just so it adds a layer to our parenting that our parents didn't have so yeah it is oh god it's so really tough it's so hard so you're starting secondary school she started a secondary school next year starting in September yeah starting September um yeah it's it's it's you know it's interesting and everyone keeps on saying oh you're gonna notice the difference but like she's so lovely do you know what my kids are both still lovely. There is a difference, but it's just, I find that I'm parenting them more now than when they were toddlers. Gosh, don't tell me this.

I'm sorry. I feel like there's a lot more, like, a lot more to manage in clubs and friendship dynamics and da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. So it is different,'s it's still lovely so don't don't you worry right cherish thanks so much for coming on the podcast again tell everybody where they can find you so we're at popsy clothings it's www.popsyclothing.com and i will leave a link in the description to where you can find where you can buy all the

beautiful outfits you've got is there a big Facebook group so I'll put that on there there seems that seems to be a kind of hub yeah uh Popsi clothing frocks and friends frocks and friends so I'll leave a link to that and I and you know if if kind of like you're more like a voluptuous lady I would definitely go and check out but you do what size do you go from what size do you do sizes 6 to 24 yeah there you go so cover it covers we'll cover a lot do you do men's clothes you know we've touched on it we do men's t-shirts um yeah i'm not as interested in men's clothes i'm gonna be honest yeah i'm not sure any men listen to this podcast apart from my dad so unless my dad wants her a popsy jumpsuit i think we're all right i think we're just speaking to the women

out there okay thanks for coming on the podcast cherish be sure to go and check her out and guys we will be back next week for another episode we will be doing a poll over on the phone box podcast shall we do a poll where i'll ask people the fashion of the noughties and then we can decide the best fashion what do you think was the best fashion of the noughties the best kind of thing that came out of the noughties oh i can't even think of anything i know i can't even think of was the was the was the gladiator belt the noughties because that seems you're making a comeback. It might have been, mightn't it?

Yeah. So we'll ask people and then we can work out what the best fashion art was of the noughties. And also I'll try to put a poll on Spotify and be sure to go and check us out on YouTube where I will have inserted some pictures of crushes and fashion so you can go and see all that with your eyes.

Right, see you next week for another episode, guys. Bye, Cherish. Bye. Bye. See you next week for another episode, guys. Bye, like to know more about you, what you think of this podcast, and the other podcasts you'd like to hear. So we put together a super brief survey we'd like you to fill out. Complete it, and we'll give you a chance to win one of three $100 Amazon gift cards. That way, we can say thanks for your opinion. Just go to mypodcastsurvey.ca

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