The Phonebox Podcast With Emma Conway - Sarah Rossi: Thin Eyebrows, Wimpy Burgers & Boy Band Crushes

Episode Date: April 10, 2023

Who was the best member of New Kids On The Block? Does anyone remember The Brittas Empire? Will Sunday Times best selling food creator Sarah Rossi ever recover from over plucking her eyebrows? Find out in this weeks episode!Be sure to follow Sarah here on Instagram or here on TikTok. She also has an amazing blog and you can grab 'What's For Dinner?' here and pre order 'What's For Dinner In One Pot?' here.For more of me follow @brummymummyof2 on Instagram, YouTube, Facebook and TikTok.If you have any guest suggestions or topics you would like me to cover email [e-mail] and be sure to tag so I can see where you are listening!Editing by Soundtruism. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

hello my loves and welcome back for another episode of the phone box podcast with me emma conway hope you're all well i hope i am keeping you company on your walk or i don't you're tidying out your pants maybe you're on a car journey or you're on a train journey let me know definitely go and tag me in on social media and show me where you are listening to me I like to keep people company on dog walks that's a nice place that's where I feel like I'm I'm most comfortable this week's episode is a great one it's a bit of a bumper episode because I am doing it with my friend Sarah who I've known now for nearly 10 years she's called Sarah Rossi she is the publisher of the Sunday Times bestseller What's for Dinner which is a book where she shows really easy simple recipes to follow

for families also she has a great Instagram account and TikTok account where she does like videos so you can follow along I'm not a cook it's unsure how we're even friends to be honest if you think of her as the ultimate cook, you would think of me as the, whatever the opposite of that would be. But she is great, and she's the only person that turned up to the podcast with a full list.

It gets to the end, and she's just shouting stuff out. Like, do you remember the British Empire? What about Wimpy? There's a lot, a lot of chat about her eyebrows. In fact, take a shot every time she talks about her eyebrows unless of course you're listening to this in a car she talks about it a lot so enjoy the podcast with Sarah Rossi and I'll be back for a little chat at the end hello lovely Sarah and

welcome to the phone box podcast if this is really difficult i'm gonna have to start again this is the first time because doing it with you is gonna be really difficult i reckon because it's like hello lovely sarah and welcome to the phone box podcast i would like to know to you from you people who are listening this is really difficult because i know sarah so well i can't keep starting over and over again i want to know where you were when you were 14 and what were the year was please hi Emma can I just say I was thinking this before we came on you and I talk so much and we talk absolute drivel and got it all day every day I was thinking right must remember this is being recorded do not talk absolute rubbish that we normally talk about anyway talk rubbish that's what we want to hear we want to hear the rubbish um what was the question 1995 yeah and I lived in a little village

and it's just outside Colchester in Essex you know I was just so are you an Essex girl then because you've got no Essex accent do you not think so I was so ready for that still make that joke now I don't know what Joe the nine like the Essex girls joke well not think so I was so ready for that still make that joke now I don't know what Joe the nine like the Essex girls joke well like I don't mean I don't mean that as in a joke I mean I mean I love the anyways Essex so for me that's like a real big compliment I think Towie did a lot for um the marketing of Essex because it was always like a thing to be an Essex girl in the 90s like white stilettos and yeah I can always remember being like quite embarrassed about it and now I just own it I think yeah Gemma Collins Joey Essex you got all the classics I

flipping love them pair okay so 1995 classic year I would have been I don't know 1995 I'd have been 17 so you'd have been 14 I'd have been 17 you've been streets ahead of me in fashion and life oh as as we are now to be honest um what was your bedroom like when you were 14 that gives a good indication of what you were like I moved bedrooms at some point in the house you know like does everyone do that I don't know if you had like once like we swapped and stuff because I don't know just to be an annoying teenager probably yeah yeah I dragged a mattress through a corridor at like midnight my mom and dad where are you going I've got the box room the one I think I was in was painted a quite sickly shade of green which I think probably just paint that was like left over from somewhere that

seemed like a good idea and then I can also remember oh this is like really 80s probably more than 90s that had these wardrobes that were like really shiny fake marble you know everyone had those wardrobes set were like set into the wall with a dressing table in between and the hours I spent plucking my eyebrows at that dressing table I mean I've just seen photographic evidence of quite Pamela Anderson really didn't have any uh you know you were the original Pamela Anderson with them eyebrows I'll put it I'll pop it on my insta stories because I mean you're talking about my boobs your eyebrows were slim when I tell you that I now for the last probably 10 years have religiously gone to have my eyebrows like colored and shaped even even like at times where I haven't really been able to afford it that has been my

luxury because I just feel like I cannot go back to those days of being a 14 year old who over plucked her eyebrows when you did it did you look did you think oh god look really cool or did you do it and go oops no I definitely had an oops I think it was you know I don't know now kids are like on this sound really old but now they're just like on their smartphone in their bedroom or whatever whereas I was just there you know we didn't have a smartphone no just plucking my eye literally every night oh there's one well um I my my friend I went had a back operation when I was 18 and my friend Helen because I was on traction so I was attached to a bed with weights on my legs they don't do it now. Thank goodness. And my friend Helen came in and she was like,

now you're attached to this bed. I'm going to work on your eyebrows. Cause I couldn't move. And she like pinned me down. And she was like, she must've been for years going, God, look at them eyebrows.

Wish I could get my, she got rid of it all. Did you say no? And she still carried on? I was heavily, heavily sedated. And I was just like, do you know what? Go on. I've got nothing else to do.

Okay, well, I don't have any excuse of any traction, any help or any sedation. It was just you. I also think, you know, when you're a teenager and you can spend too, well, I do this now sometimes, but like too long looking in the mirror and you make your own faults, don't you? And that was like just plucking away the eyebrows and actually what made it worse which I don't know whether you can see in that photo because I feel like I was going

au naturel with the skinny eyebrows but it was a point where I just nearly plucked them all off and I was like shit what am I allowed to swear yeah you swear away yeah yeah yeah what have I done and I must have but I remember acquiring it's sorry it's making me laugh so much because I must have acquired some eyebrow pencil and you know now like you can I don't know watch loads of tiktoks about doing makeup it wasn't like that there was no one to tell me how to fix this dire situation that I'd got on my face and I must have acquired an eyebrow pencil from somewhere. It was the long story short was it was a terrible colour. So it made them look so much worse.

And I can remember people being like, what have you done to your eyebrows? And we go, nothing. And you're just like, these are natural. Because in those days, the makeup would have been like, an eyebrow pencil would have been like an eyebrow pencil would have been like brown there would have been like two colors wouldn't they're not now when you have loads of different like ranges of stuff it would have just been like two colors shove it on i think i would have just used whatever was closest because we didn't all watch hours of youtube and tiktok to learn how to

make things look good did we so we didn't know what was out there anyway so yes I had very thin and then at one point very badly drawn on eyebrows and I'm grateful for all of our for our children growing up now that at least they can watch YouTube videos to know how and let you get it it's quite a bushy browsing now isn't it I think I can't get my head around the one where they put the soap on you put soap on your eyebrows and brush it up no I don't do a soap brow should I be doing it with a bit of cousins what soap do you use it's called soap brow oh I thought it was like

made of soap maybe I thought it was like your cousin's soap that you would have had at your mum's house I should try that it would probably be a money saving exercise soap brow that's something for you all to try brush it up and then brush it across. And then you go like this. That's one for a thumbnail for this.

Yeah, it's a podcast, Sarah. There's no thumbnail. What are you talking about? Everybody imagine Sarah just seductively like brushing up her eyebrows. Okay, so we've got your bedroom. What was your personality like when you were 14? I wasn't very sure of myself. Wasn't sure where I fitted in in the world which I think is obviously a general teenage trait um I found it really hard to be that person yeah I mean that is

the teenage condition isn't it where were you in the hierarchy like what also what kind of school did you go to just a mixed oh yeah no yeah um so you were in a mixed school what where were you in the hierarchy like what also what kind of school did you go to just a mixed oh yeah no yeah um so you were in a mixed school what where were you in the hierarchy I always find that quite fascinating um I think I was somewhere vaguely in the middle um I had been friends with some of the cool crowd and then but I wasn't all the time and I think as I got to 14 that probably changed I probably became a bit less cool because I think it's also like you have to be quite sporty to be cool do you think that this is so fascinating because um Matt man versus baby said exactly the same thing he said to be cool at his school you have to be sporty now I was I don't know it's because I was at a girl's

school but I don't really think that applied really I don't know yeah I or then again maybe I am just so unsported like I like the opposite of sport what would be the unsporting that perhaps it didn't even register on my radar but I didn't feel like I didn't like look at girls who played netball and went wow they're cool oh no that wasn't my school like if you were really good yeah if you were like in the team and stuff and you were good one of my best friends was a boy and then actually later on at about 14 two of my best friends were were boys girls get into like certain very set groups don't they and I think boys are less likely to do that so there were two boys one of which I'd known since like primary school and we lived really nearby so we used to see each other out of school and then another boy and I think that

instantly took me out of that sort of need to be in a very specific girl gang probably. What kind of music were you into? I also feel like this may be changed just because like what year was New Kids on the block i was trying to remember i feel like new kids on the block new kids on the block was really like 1991 maybe because take that came out about i mean i guess we all know i know the history of take that but like 1992 was peak like was take that starting know, I found heaven and all that lot. So just before that would have been New Kids on the Block. Did you love them? I did like, maybe I was just really behind the times.

Maybe 12, 13 actually was New Kids on the Block, which was the first tape I ever bought, which was New Kids on the Block. Yeah. When did CDs start as well? I don't know, but you're speaking, and all that's going through my head is, see the girls with the curls in the hair buttons and the pins and the lava I I'll be honest I was bros I was a brosette and bros and nukes on the block no no I was brosette love Matt Goss but if I had to

choose if somebody came in and said Emma you're gonna have to snog one of new kids on the block it would be Joey yeah I liked Joey and Joey's i'm my best friend then who's still my best friend now naomi love jordan and we used to oh my god i retract i retract i retract jordan i forgot about jordan oh my god he was gorgeous we used to have these like long in-depth discussions about you know who was better joey or or Jordan about their merits their pros and cons like almost like as if they were both going to turn up knock on the door knock on the door and be like hi girls like which one of me asked you what a date if you saw them now would you still feel a bit like giggly do you still fancy them now

absolutely not any way shape or form I think I've slightly moved on I hope I've moved on in my taste I mean you're talking to the woman that's loved the same pop star since she was 14 I've not moved on I like that for you it's how you're like I hope I've moved on and then like but for you that's all right that's fine for you Emma uh I would go out with Jerry Farnoosh is on the block now. Jordan, in fact,

Donnie Wahlberg. Marky Mark, I'd go out with him. Danny, draw a line. Well, Marky, Marky Wahlberg? That sounded like that was a real,

like, I know him so well, I could call him that. He obviously had a resurgence later, didn't he? And I remember thinking, wow. But he had those videos.

What was the song that he had those videos what was the song that he had what was marky mark marky mark and the funky bunch i don't know the only thing one thing i can remember about that he had no top on and a big willy yeah that one i was trying to be polite i was gonna do a hand movement to demonstrate a bit of a lie you know we all know what marky Mark was famous for. Okay, so you like New Kids on the Block. You had an 80s style bedroom. Who was your first crush that wasn't one of New Kids on the Block? You don't have to say the name if you don't want to, but I want you to because I like it.

I'm not going to say the name. And I'm going to tell you why. Because they, a little while ago ago got in touch with me on Facebook what did they say hi Sarah just sent a friend request and I was just like absolutely not did you not approve it no why not you look like you're waiting for some juicy gossip like I was it was like my long lost love I'm like did you sound like that no I just felt like that part of my life had significantly changed. I had a crush at primary school and he contacted me on Friends Reunited.

Friends Reunited, do you remember that? Yeah, he contacted me on that. It was so like out of the blue. What did you say, where was your crush from? Primary school, so out of the blue on Friends Reunited when I was a teacher and I was like. And his name is Stephen Conway. No, steven conway because he was younger than me and i had a little bit of a chat with him and then i was like this is weird and then like i don't even know friends of united still exists i don't know it was like the it was like before facebook wasn't it okay so that your

first crush did you ever snog your first crush yes yeah yeah I feel like there's a blurry line between crush and first boy maybe but um there was a snog there I'm classing the crush as the first snog is that like I think you're a success story because my first crush was a crush no there was no snog with my first crush oh I remember I must have been maybe just before 14 or that sort of time and I can remember Naomi and I we went on holiday with my parents Naomi came with us to Italy and um an older boy he must have been I don't know well older must have at some point had the misfortune of literally just like catching one of our eyes and like it's so it's so long ago and I can like remember it now we were in this in the like hotel walking through someone he must have caught our eye and he he must have kind of vaguely nodded in a very Italian

charming way oh yeah ciao Bella and the conversations that Naomi and I had about this boy, as if our whole future was going to depend on him coming back to find us, to spend the rest of our days eating pasta with him. We still mention that now. Do you know what, though? A holiday crush when you were a teenager. I had a couple, one called Graham from Liverpool, one called Russell from Huddersfield. And Russell came to stay with me one summer

and I took him to see the gladiators. What a date. Gladiators. You were taking him to stay with Russell? Yeah, Russell. Where did you meet him? Oh, it would have been... How do we not know about Russell?

It would have been somewhere Spanish. What, so you kept in touch? Yeah, we kept in touch. With a couple of them, I was like pen pals and then it kind of just drifted apart. And then I he came to stay twice took him to see the gladiators because that's all we did in birmingham because that's what did nanny fan and granddad roger say about this he must have stayed he must have slept in a different oh well you know my dad will be listening to this and send me a big long message uh he must have slept in a separate bedroom

can you send me the information i need some more gossip on this thing yeah um and that and then it just kind of fizzled out and it just was like but yeah we went to see the i went to see the gladiators quite a lot back in the 90s what a dream 90s date to go and see the dream 90s day yeah and what uh once even that is like top level once even more niche me and my sister were going to see the gladiators again oh this feels like a fever dream you're not going to believe it we were going to the gladiators again car pulled up by on broad street right car pulled up on broad street we looked pj and duncan in the back of the car pj and duncan in the back of the car you are joking and i was

like it's pj and duncan in the back of Duncan. And we were like, no, it was. And we went over and we had a little chat before going to see the Gladiators. What a 90s dream. I've got so many questions. Were they going to watch Gladiators as well? I have no idea why they were there, but it was an absolute joy. And you know me, I can sniff a celeb, can't I? So I was just like, who's in the back of that van?

You can sniff a celeb from a hundred bloody paces if not more and then you will almost certainly fancy oh almost certainly fancy and I will always go PJ or Duncan um Duncan Declan PJ and Duncan Ant and Dec Ant and Dec yeah yeah so Dec yeah Biker Grove yeah Biker Grove my sister about it. Do you remember the plot where PJ got... I know what you're going to say. PJ, Claire was literally just talking about that, when PJ got gun... What was it?

Paintball. A paint gun in the eye, blinded. And I kid you not, George was going to a paint gun party like two weeks ago and I had to tell him the whole story of PJ and Duncan and Biker Grove and about safety and never lifting his goggles up and when I tell you that child of mine looked at

me like mum what are you talking about? PJ went blind and then and then Duncan joined a cult so we've all got to like TV like that was quite terrifying when we were growing up. My sister went to find, she found the clip and she watched it. And she was like, it was really disturbing. It was really disturbing. But yeah, actually, what TV did you like? What were you watching? Actually, I was just thinking,

I wonder whether Emma was a Neighbours or Home and Away girl. I was a both girl. I was a both. Yeah, because like Ramsey Street or the surf club if Stephen said to me do you know what Emma we're gonna go on a trip to Australia and you can you can go and visit Summer Bay or um Ramsey Street it'd be Ramsey Street so I'm gonna go Neighbours also um Neighbours had been around for longer, hadn't it? Yeah, I really liked Neighbours, but I did really like Home and Away. It was like 5.35 till 6, Neighbours, 6 onwards Home and Away,

and then Hollyoaks. Absolute classic. Absolute classic. What a dream. Like, it was just such a dreamy television. What else did you watch? EastEnders Omnibus on a Sunday. The Bill.

Oh, I can remember loving The loving the bill and actually one of my friends is a police officer and i had a conversation with her about something the other day and i said did you have a whiteboard like in the build you still have one and she was like no sarah we have computers tune to the bill in my head what's the theme tune to the bill i don't know but i remember um what were they called tosh you can't forget tosh tosh with a moustache came to my school and then top of the pops at seven o'clock that would have been the absolute dream evening bring all of it back right i want to know about your faux pas you've heard about your eyebrows i want to know about your fashion because you just sent some photos and you look great my mind instantly went back to one outfit which was like a slightly fluorescent

lime green jumper right and i was thinking that was hideous why would i wear that and then as i said it i realized lime green jumper uh and i realized that i wear a lime green jumper that's not actually dissimilar now but this one I know this one's a sweatshirt so I feel like that's acceptable and every time I wear it online um people comment on how nice it was so maybe that wasn't such a bad faux pas um I wore a lot of black I was very terrified of color I think because when you're a teenager you kind of definitely like want to sort of sink into yourself and hide a bit. I did anyway. And wearing black sort of lets you do that, doesn't it?

And the funny thing is that now I never wear any black. I feel it's quite like meaningful that I've obviously discovered that clothes can make me happy and they didn't then. That's a bit deep, that is, Sarah. I know. I i know i think that but it's true isn't it it's like yeah injection of how you're feeling i put a picture up this morning of me with ronan keating and steven gately but i was dressed as if i was shay like one of the other members i had a white shirt on tartan trousers and you know when you do you ever used to wrap a jumper around your waist all the time all the time yeah and that makes me it's so I don't know why we did because

I was so slim as well then and I just was like right well if I do this oh it's just great I did that for years a little cheeky jump around the waist well because it made you feel like you were hiding yeah and I think it felt like it felt like the arm that it felt like the back was covering my bum and then the arms are like covering my belly that's what it felt even though I didn't have I had no bum or no belly and I just was like this is what I'm gonna do is with tartan trousers and a white shirt not to be deep again about the clothes and teenage years but I do think that is a period of time where you you're so it's just such a time of change you're trying to work out who you are and I just think it's totally normal that clothes are part of that isn't it and eyebrows and hair and yeah oh yeah

yeah yeah yeah it's just um yeah a bit of a discovery time it's it's a I think 14 and 15 is a bit of just a strange old time and then to be honest you hit 17 and 18 then everyone goes a bit slaggy or is that just me 100 not sorry as you say I was just thinking so I used to dye my hair quite a lot I don't know whether that was maybe a little bit later but um there was some one just awful hair fails one of those pictures I sent you I think I've obviously dyed it some kind of I think it was supposed to be gingery red but it's gone more of an orange shade did you ever use sunning the bottles of sunning I and then would try and dye it on top so I'd get some kind of strange slightly pink situation going on which was always nice yeah and the sunning also sort of slightly fried your hair

a little bit didn't it I'm trying to think how it was legal because it would just be like squirt bits and so if you listen you know what sin is you used to squirt it in your hair and then you dry you'd hair dry it and it would activate it and make it go lighter it essentially turns your hair into some kind of straw yeah like orange straw but i used it on the subject of hair the other thing I was obsessed by was these. I feel like I've made this up, but I'm going to go and look online to see if they did exist. They were called poly, they were pink foam. Please can anybody tell me if these did exist? They were pink foam strip things.

Poly papillon, papillon, I think. And you would get a piece of hair and curl your hair around it and then tie it up and twist it I have them did you yeah and it was like wire on the inside yeah and they were like and you just roll them up and then you pull them out you'd have like and they made your hair look atrocious like you'd look like um Shirley Temple with like ringlets yeah if I one did not look like Shirley Temple I looked like I don't I don't know, an electrocute. Yeah, I definitely, I would have had them from the market. I definitely, I wouldn't know what they were.

They were just pink things. And it was like, it was like the noodle material that the kids use at swim baths. That's exactly what it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I also had, which was so misguided, a fringe. Now you have got the most beautiful straight hair that's just like you and I've talked about this a lot of times when I've been moaning about my hair but um I did not have that kind of hair my hair instantly goes in every opposite direction put

that in a fringe like what are you doing why would you do that to yourself and um we have no straighteners then so it was a image and you just took what you were given with the fringe and mine was almost always terrible it was so bad my fringe just curled outwards in opposite directions i feel like you like a bit like a lord farquhar kind of terrible Terrible. Absolutely terrible. Did you get a perm? Did you ever get a perm? No. Those pink curler things were more than enough for me. You needed a perm. When you got your fine with the sun in and your pink

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parent to my teens because yeah very sensitive about how difficult those years are and I think um yeah and I also tell them not to over pluck their eyebrows so yeah I I think I don't so I've talked to all sorts of different people and everybody kind of was like well no we all nobody knew what was going on so I think even the people thought knew what was going on didn't know what was going on just that you're missing out on something that everybody else knows yeah is was was for me quite disarming and difficult and yeah but I think that is a really positive that I will be so sensitive to my children going through it because I think though sometimes me and you're a bit too sensitive yeah with that with that with our girls I think we put ourselves in their shoes like really we are a little bit sometimes we have to go well you know yeah we get it what can I have my support

yeah or about friendships and stuff I find I have to take a little bit of a step back and try not to get too involved because female friendships in with teenagers is a tricky old thing um we glossed over first snog was it disgusting was it nice i mean nice is a bit strong i think nobody has had a nice one yeah everybody's has had a gross one yeah i think i think they i also think when you're a teenager you sort of just want to get it done don't you how old were you i think about 14 yeah that's we've had younger have we and then there's always me as the oldest yet to have anybody everyone's like she was 80 ever was 29 yeah it wasn't it wasn't my finest moment i don't think but it also wasn't terrible so it's gotta get over and done with i would take that as a win

yeah everybody's just like we just want to get it over and done with and then on to the next thing yeah it's a funny old it's a yeah it's a funny old thing isn't it i wish i'd realized that everybody goes through all this stuff if you could go back and speak to little sarah what would you say but so don't worry you're doing fine it's all going to be okay this is not your life forever you're going to come out of this um and these these things are really hard like you're not just making this up it's it's really hard yeah it feels hard it's because it is yeah it is hard there's so many highs but there's so many like bumpy lows as well isn't it and it is do you think it shapes the who you are today 100 it's really shaped me and I think about it a lot with my children when they're

having a really tough time and they're not teenagers yet but I think about you can't just say to kids like oh it's fine don't worry about it and I think it's really taught me that that in that moment those things that are terrible to them are really really terrible um and just to like listen and try and understand yeah it is difficult because sometimes the kids can come home and they've got a tail and you're like I mean that's irrelevant but you have to kind of give them the time and like you know this is really important to them yeah even though you know in like two weeks time they'll have completely forgotten about it yeah because when you're a teenager at that time it just feels like the work like the fact that someone didn't sit next to you in maths yeah it was like the end of your world doesn't it and I think I just felt those things so deeply. Do you wish you were a teenager now?

Or do you prefer being a teenager then? Oh, God. That is such a hard question. Because I could have, my hair and makeup would have looked better. Yeah. But all the times when it didn't, people would know about social media and everything. Those eyebrows, they would have had a full instagram account do you know what when i just have my eyebrows done i go on instagram people always

comment i think people are more bothered about eyebrows yeah because it's your whole face anyway i just mean that as an example of like some things i would have done wrong like not done wrong but have maybe not made the best choices whatever they are and I think if I'd felt like that could have been public I perhaps would have been more considered maybe I feel like this is a therapy session I think you've had some issues about your iPad we talk about it all the time but also just the breadth of life and diversity that we see online now I hope is very different to when you and I were growing up reading like just, did you read just 17? Yeah.

Fortnite, wasn't it? Oh no, that was more, more magazines. Oh, hang on. Which is no, it's seen more. It wasn't more than one, the, the, the naked men posters. And then I'm sure, was it just seven? Was it not just 17? I will fact check it.

Was it not just 17 that did position of the week? Position of the week. I haven't even had to keep keep i think it was more magazine position of the fortnight but my point was gonna be really that like those magazines and everything we only ever saw like really slim people who looked a certain way and i just hope that i don't know yeah those magazines were on reflection insane horrendous like true horrendous the content was all like sex doing quizzes what you know you know what kind of snog are you but it wasn't just about sex it wasn't like sex positive it was like how you can be better at sex how you can get a boyfriend like yeah yeah yeah I mean this I would be looking at positions that I hadn't kissed before I would be like

absolutely baffled and gobsmacked and all the problems were all really weird yeah those magazines a lot I think smash it was a great magazine because that was just like I used to love cutting out the um that have the. You wouldn't have the internet. You couldn't just Google, oh, what's the lyrics to Snow Informer? You couldn't do that. You'd have to wait for Smashers to come out and then cut it out. I love that that was your first thought,

your first piece of musical genius. Also, it's not the first time I've mentioned it. Snow Informer must be at the forefront of my... Vanilla Ice? How do I know the word? I can see it. Give my mum the word shut me down a little so you know and i used to yeah i there was something delicious that our children will never experience of of that like waiting for something so i was telling erin about going to a video shop and you'd have to wait for the new release to come out and then

if the new release you know if it all gone you'd have to wait yeah steven used to work at a video shop and you'd have to wait for the new release to come out and then if the new release you know if it all gone you'd have to wait yeah steven used to work at a video shop he said it was his best job ever he used to work at a video shop on hadley road um and i do where there's now everything so instant now things don't even go in the cinema do they sound like a right old man but they just come straight to your computer it's even things like on amazon the fact that something can get delivered the next day or the same day that would just never have happened in you had to wait in my case get a bus to town on a saturday yeah like 45 minutes traipse around buy something bring it home that was or if a film came out on christmas day they'd be like brand new film but

actually that film was about seven years old it's just like brand new to bbc one and it'd be like brand new film but actually that film was about seven years old it's just brand new to bbc one and it'd be like the gremlins which actually had come out in the mid the mid 80s but it took so long to get to the telly let's tell you when i came to i made a list of all my favorite 80s 90s things to talk to you about and i haven't even scratched the surface do you know what go we haven't even talked about body shock baskets did you go and buy baskets from the body Sarah the fact that you've got a list of all this is going to bring me joy body shot baskets yes little wicker basket so good fuzzy peach loved it um my p bag which was like a dewberry though hang on no dewberry that was disgusting my p like um one of those head bags

do you know what do you know what i mean and they had the head logo on either side and they were like white i never had one white and purple maybe and also they were the worst quality like leather or feather or whatever it wasn't all rubbed off an exclamation perfume remember that make a statement without saying a word also using a river island bag as a pee bag did you do that or um i i i was just i was shopping in burton's because i wanted to look like boys i remember so river island past divine but everyone had a bag and it had like a cat count um swatch watch i mean people still wear swatch watches now why are you laughing at me do you remember this it's the fact that you're being quite aggressive with your list and you're going so fast you just go do you remember swatch watch

i do remember swatch watches i had a blue one one. Next on the list, please, Sarah. A Pizza Hut opened in Colchester. Buffet. And it was, when I told you, I mean, obviously I'm a foodie anyway. Clearly this was my formative experience. But the fact that we would go to Pizza Hut and I, when I tell you, I thought I was fancy. Like we were. A buffet, a pizza with a free salad.

It was so good. And the bacon bits on the salad as well. Just loved it. And I can just remember thinking, this is so cultured to go and have. A bit of pizza. Yeah, I used to eat French bread pizza at home. I don't think we went to a pizza.

I love that. Yeah, French bread pizza. I had a lava lamp in my bedroom. My kids have got them now still. Yeah, same mine, yeah. Oh, we talked about TV. The British Empire. do you remember what why you mean that's the most niches thing

you did watch it the other day and the reason i was talking we're talking about child care you know when that um you know in the new announcement there's going to be more childcare. We had this conversation, it went down a rabbit hole of, do you remember that woman that used to keep her children in a cupboard? She used to keep children in like a drawer in the leisure center. And he was in Red Dwarf as well,

wasn't he? He was Rimmer from Red Dwarf. Yeah, but that program was classic. And then I've just got in really big letters written Magnum, but I don't know why it's such big letters. I it was the it was because the chocolate or the program the ice cream me and I were allowed to walk it was like the very like early times when we were allowed to go to a shop on our own and we would like save the money we had to instead of buying a solero

which was cheaper to buy a magnum and then we would sit and we would literally just think we were like the coolest thing ever because we got like a magnum which was obviously i think a magnum is i thought you were talking about the program with um what's the man with the mustache tom sellick yeah tom sellick oh you had a crush on you kind of vanished that you had a crush on Tom Selleck. Do you remember that? Oh, in three minutes. Steve Guttenberg. Tom Selleck.

Who's the other one? Ted Danson. Cheers, Ted Danson. It was absolute classic, that film, wasn't it? That was. I really liked your list. And I really liked British Empire. They don't make them like that anymore do they you're just

staring at your list I've also written Jason Donovan but that was a classic because I obviously loved him Jason Donovan what's your favourite Jason Donovan song if it's not Sealed With A Kiss I'm going to end the Zoom. Well I was going especially for you because obviously it was the two of them and Loved Neighbours Sealed With A Kiss, I'm going to end the Zoom. Well, I was going especially for you because obviously it was the two of them and loved neighbours.

Sealed with a Kiss, that was a great song. Who's gonna be alone? Have I made this up? Was there a t-shirt that was tie-dyed that changed colour? Well, I have a hyper colour. You haven't made that up. Yeah, I thought of what it's called. I remember those and I remember having one of those and literally...

And your pits would be like a different colour. I think I had a knock-off version that wasn't the proper one noble noble sniper color sarah i love your research for this this little like you've just made a list of all the oh she's still going go on i think that's it is that it we've covered the british empire we've covered global hypercolor noble sniper color and then i've written Wimpy. That's it. I remember we used to go to Wimpy. Saw a Wimpy the other day. I did in London. It still exists. Yeah, it must have.

We've not got one in Birmingham. It was really kind of cool, wasn't it? She had a burger on a plate. On a plate? It was. The knife and fork. And a rumbaba. My dad always had a rumbaba. What and a rumbaba my dad always had a rumbaba it's like a round donut soaked in some kind of disgusting syrup with a dollop of something on

top and cream in a winter i don't think you're thinking of the ritz yes hang on i've just got oh hang on i've actually meant the ritz in wimpy with the chips whoever's listening can someone confirm whether anyone else is a non-barber anybody's listening you used to eat rumbarbars in in wimpy i'm gonna take you out on a hot date i can't take you to gladiators it doesn't exist anymore but i'm gonna take you to that wimpy in london and make you have a r a run barber oh well do you know what and on that note i will i think i'll i'll leave you thank you so much for uh coming on the podcast it's been wonderful to speak to you and here i keep thinking about the british empire it's

going to be sticking with me all night is that who you're thinking about was he the janitor was he the janitor oh my god isn't it isn't it amazing the crap that stays in your head well i don't mean you specifically like all of our heads like i i cannot remember my husband's phone number but i can remember that a woman used to keep a baby in a drawer in the british empire that's not right that's not right that's not right that's not right i can't remember that i sent my kid into school on the wrong day. Right, Sarah, I will speak to you later. Thanks so much.

And bye. Bye. So there you go. That was a lovely episode with Sarah. I told you it was a bit chatty. I told you it was talking a bit of a rubbish. I told you to talk about the British Empire more than is normal. Please do let me know on social media if you remember the British Empire or if Sarah and I are alone in such a classic program um actually definitely let me know of any other programs you'd

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