The Phonebox Podcast With Emma Conway - Sarah Turner AKA The Unmumsy Mum: Inflatable Chairs & Imacc-ing Hair

Episode Date: March 20, 2023

This week, Sunday Times best selling author, Sarah Turner AKA The Unmumsy Mum chats about dirty burger snogs, inflatable chairs, uncomfortable thongs and the stench of Immac.Get her amazing Richard and Judy Book Club approved novel Stepping Up here and go follow her on Instagram.For more of me follow @brummymummyof2 on Instagram, YouTube, Facebook and TikTok.Email me here with guest ideas or nostalgic topics you would like covered: [e-mail] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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it was going to be my dad, Grandad Rog, my mum, Nanny-san, maybe my sister. Knew my husband wouldn't listen to it. Let's be honest, he still hasn't listened to it. So if you tuned in last week and you had no idea who I was and you're like, why is this woman just announcing to us, hi, I'm Emma, much like, you know, a Madonna or a Prince and we're supposed to know who the heck you are. I mean, you don't know who I am, am but I am Emma Conway I'm also known as Brummie Mummy of Two I was bowled over by the reception on the podcast I was um as the youth say shooketh I don't even think they say that anymore I could go and ask my 12 year old if people still say shooketh and she would just roll her eyes and walk out the room but I'm going to say I was shooketh had no idea so each week I am going to be interviewing a different guest I've got guests in their 20s 30s

40s and 50s from different walks of life and we're going to be reminiscing we're going to be taking a little stroll down nostalgia lane I don't think that's a catchphrase I'm trying to make it catchphrase we're going to stroll down nostalgia lane and we are going to talk about what life was like for them growing up as a teenager some episodes will be super funny like knee deep in life last week some will be a bit more heartwarming some you know there's some bits are a little bit sad because being a teenager do you know what isn't great for everybody is it but I really hope you stick around and I'm I am I do apologize that I kind of turned up so so cockily and was just like hey I'm

Emma and but because I genuinely thought uh nobody would listen to it but now you're here you may as well stick around for another episode also I'm Bromley Mummy of Two on all social media if you ever want to direct message me about the podcast suggest a guest bring up a topic you'd like me to talk about I don't know just reminisce back in the day about stuff you loved, please do, please tag me in, I, you know, I love sharing people listening to the podcast, that is fantastic, so this week is Sarah Turner, a mumsy mum, best-selling Sunday Times author, currently her novel Stepping Up is one of Richard and Judy's flipping books, you know them books, and they say these books are great, it's one of them, it's one of them, Richard and Judy's flipping books. You know them books? And they say these books are great. It's one of them. It's one of them.

Richard and Judy. Back in the day, oh my gosh, I'd have been like overwhelmed if that had happened to me. So that is what she is. She is a great lady. But I'm going to tell you something now. Sarah and I's friendship knows no time boundaries because this woman is a decade younger than me.

A whole decade. So she is educating me on things about inflatable chairs. I don't know anything about inflatable chairs. And she's telling me all the good things about the noughties. So stay tuned and listen to this episode and I will see you for a chatterty at the end. Hello, Sarah, AKA and mumsy mum. Welcome to the phone box podcast. The first question I'm going to ask you, like I ask everybody, is what year is it and where were you living when you turned 14? What phone box are you phoning from? I was living in my hometown of Launceston in Cornwall at 14 and it was, no,

you said this would happen. I said to do the math i said work it out the math it was i was 14 in 2001 2001 you were a baby the height of the spice girls fever was it 2001 yeah it was uh spice girls bewitched still all saints and some of the other some of the other girl bands like um atomic kitten yeah and like precious and some of these other like oh what was the other one um yeah so that was that was my era uh and yeah there was a phone box a phone box that i'm picturing um there were actually there were quite a few phone boxes back in the day but probably be what probably be the one in town in the town centre was it a nice red one or was it a battered bt one it was a grey bt one did it

have little holes where people had put cigarettes in burnt into the plastic oh lovely so you didn't have a phone when you were 14 or was phones did phones exist then mobile phones I was on so 14 was really like the cusp of like some of my friends were starting to get mobile phones like mobile phones with the little aerials yeah um but I didn't have one until the following year so it was pre it was pre yeah pre mobile phone pre pre mobile phones pre-social media what were you like at 14 were you cool Sarah I mean I've seen some of the pictures and I'm like that's one cool that's one cool kid and you've gone, wow, what a babe. No, Emma, I was not cool. I was in school super geeky, really academic. I mean, you only have to see the photos to know that I was like my my my preteen and teen early teen years were not kind to me.

I had massive glasses. I had a fringe that started like at the back of my head and seemed to come all the way to my eyelashes like a helmet. Lovely. I never had any time off school, so I would wear a little attendance badge. Oh, nice. Did you have any jobs at school? i would wear a little attendance badge oh nice did you have any jobs at school you're like a librarian or a monitor of course you were i was school librarian um i was on the school council volunteer to go and have meetings with the head teacher to talk about uniform policy etc uh so but 14 is a really interesting year for me because I was like super geeky in that crowd, like not unpopular. I had friends. I just found my right group of people that like the same things as me. And then by kind of 15, 16, I was full, like going out every weekend and you were like you were like sandy and you changed

you met your Rizzo and you're like do you know what I'm putting some tight black trousers on and I'm off out uptown I did I actually I had a there was I had an equivalent of a Rizzo um who I used to sit with in drama and and it actually makes me a little bit sad because I did I did have the equivalent of what they call now a glow up blow up at about age 15 but it's sad because I'm not sure if I was in many ways happier before that in my little bubble of geeky friends oh this sounds like a Netflix film yeah it's like you know the American team films where they have makeover yeah makeover scene or plain Jane in Neighbours but I think that might be a bit before your time but yeah makeover scene

yeah yeah I know I'm plain Jane so um at 15 I got highlights checked swapped my glasses for contact lenses um started wearing you know short skirts to go out on a night out and generally shifted friendship groups a little which was what I wanted to do that was like all anybody ever wants to be at um school is popular isn't it yeah but I actually I actually think the friends and like little group and life I had before that was probably nicer cautionary tale don't climb don't don't I mean I I take that rule every day so I'm trying to be cool it's my life's motto um what was your bedroom like because I think that gives a really indication did you have posters up was it tidy what was it like my bedroom was so at 14 I had posters on so two whole entire walls of posters oh lovely

they were a mixture of like boy bands. And there was a lot of Leonardo DiCaprio. Oh, in Romeo and Juliet, Leonardo DiCaprio. And I had a Jack Ryder from EastEnders section. There was a whole section for Jack Ryder. You liked the floppy hair blonde. I did. I loved the floppy hair blonde.

I had Jay from Five. blonde i did i loved my hair blonde um i had uh jay from five he was on my he was on my wardrobe with the eyebrow piercing yeah he's quite manly the jay jay from five i say was the man of the group yeah yeah bad boy did i at 14 um yeah so two two walls of posters I also had a load of inflatable stuff like blow up aliens those like blow up chairs maybe did this miss me is this a trend that I missed out on is this but it wasn't it wasn't like people would have it kind of followed like the lava lamp stage where all of a sudden people started getting like yeah it was like blow up aliens or blow up armchairs or blow up bins i just had a load of like you put a flipping paper pin in it and it would bop i won a load of stuff from a competition in i think miss What a classic Miz. And one of the things was an inflatable handbag. Did you go out and wear it?

Inflatable handbag and a thing of IMAC hair removal and something else that I won because I wrote into Miz magazine on a postcard because my mum had postcards. What did you say? Did you have to do something?

Please help me with my hairy legs and give me a blow-up bag no i don't know i don't know i remember this the thrill of winning because i like i just it just turned up i've written my address on it and this box just turned up and it was like you've won have some hair removal cream and a blow-up hair removal clay oh my gosh the smell of it i can still smell it it's not called that anymore is it it's called i don't think i think is it veet then i don't think it's called i don't know i don't do anything with my legs like flipping bears i've got no idea so your bedroom sounds great to be honest it's a competition um so yeah i had a lot of a lot of random inflatables i had um i did i did go for the the sun and moon phase so i had a sun and moon mirror my sister same one and i

remember the shop in town that we bought them from um and yeah a little vanity a little vanity case with all my with all my knickknacks with all my knickknacks and my super drug makeup. Your bedroom sounds really lovely. It sounds nice. There were a lot of boys. Oh, and I used to, at like 13, 14, my sister used to let me have the Moore magazine centerfolds that she didn't fancy so cast offs like becca's cast off naked men more was a bit grown up wasn't it more magazine was a bit like a strategically placed cushion or something um but they would be naked and they were up there next to my inflatable alien a strategically placed inflatable bin yeah my room was great a little tv with the little vhs player in it you know that yeah i had a pink one oh no hang on did i have a pink one or

did i wish i had a pink one i can't remember how it's been so long i think mine was blue um but yeah it was it was it was great what kind of music were you into were you into your boy bands were you never ever in what were you doing i was into boy bands and girl bands um alanis morissette oh yes i used to sing i used to like sing shout alanis morissette songs about you are a heartbroken wronged woman yeah wronged i was actually 12 yeah did you go down on her in a theater um uh loads and basically all the now all the now tapes yeah quite eclectic um spice girls obviously that was my first the spice spice girls was the first album i had on tape which Spice Girl did you wish you were baby Spice oh yeah I was I've got a picture of me somewhere with some school friends and I was baby Spice if baby Spice had glasses that took

up two and a fringe and an inflatable handbag yeah and hair removal premium they haven't grown any hair yet so at school we've kind of gleaned you were kind of in the middle not cool not not cool nice happy like medium what is a fashion faux part apart from the inflatable handbag what outfit did you wear that you were like I look absolutely amazing with hindsight you look to state I had a right, which now actually I'm sure would be fashionable and acceptable. But I had this pair of dark brown cords. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But at the time, there are pictures of me and friends going to like, on a school activities. We went to Alton Towers and loads of other stuff.

There's this picture of us sat in the services. And it's clear from the other 29 people in my class that nobody else was wearing anything like this at the time. So they were, I don't know why. I think maybe it was because they were brown or, but they just look quite strong. I wonder why you were wearing brown cords. Did Alanis wear brown cords? Did Jay from Five wear brown cords? No, I can't find.

There's nobody else. All my friends are just in variations of whatever shape jeans were. You like brown. What did you wear with the brown cord? What was on your top? It was nice. It was nice. I want to say a denim jacket.

But a jacket it was not. It was like a blazer. I just don't know. I don't know what I was seeing. seeing you know what I'm thinking in my head denim I was trying to a denim blazer with brand what was on your feet trainers trainers and I wore really I always went for really like surfy brand trainers because yeah like the sort of trainers that I'd seen the the skater boys in my year wearing because that was generally all people that I was trying to impress so so you were like I did I think a common thing when you're a teenager is dress like the boys you fancy but then they don't fancy you so I did a lot of bomber jackets yeah I did a lot of of tartan trousers with white shirts. to win with every spin and a guaranteed winner by 11 p.m every day 19 plus and physically located

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this the cusp year because i'm so jealous of it super cool at 15 or 16 i'm just saying like the difference between me at 13 say and the difference at me at 15 is massive in terms of my like social standing uh in terms of coolness so I had a snog at 14 with a boy in outside a football club party lovely he tasted like he'd just eaten a burger and I fancied one of his older brothers um but obviously you know wasn't on their radar so I thought well do you know what I'm going for the second best was he older than you were the same age year older I think oh that's quite glamorous I've never spoken to him before and I never again after either have you ever seen does he still live do you still have you ever seen him um I haven't ever seen him no I've seen like I've seen his family uh and yeah he probably

I would I would say he probably wouldn't remember. Maybe you're the love he lost. Yeah. Maybe he sees these Sunday Times bestsellers and he's like, it could have been me. Or, you know, he's just like, I hope she writes a love story about me and her. I only remember that kiss because it was my first one.

Burger kiss. There was nothing. It was a proper, it was the because it was my first burger kiss there was nothing it was a proper it was like it was like tongues yeah just spit oh god it was awful um and I didn't really enjoy it and I didn't even really fancy him um but it got it out the way so got it out your system I think I don't think first kisses are ever a success story really it's not like you know Leonardo and Claire Danes you know what it wasn't like that no I was you know that's what I was hoping for but there we go it was I didn't even really like him but I felt you know you feel you feel great don't you you're like this is it I'm a woman now oh my god I've talked about this it's just the teenagers have some terrible bits brown cords inflatable

handbags smelling of a mac but they have some gore like but like the thrill of a first kiss I know the going up town knocking about with your mates like all that getting ready for stuff off all that like when you when you said you know how old were you and where what year was it and I work we just said then like 2001 I remembered the year before buying a top from Tammy girl that said party babe 2000 on it to celebrate the millennium. The millennium where the whole world was supposed to explode and nothing happened. And there was me in my Party Babe 2000 sleeveless top

that I had to go and buy a wonder bra to put underneath it because I was completely flat-chested. Yeah. But that was okay. And I just remember thinking, like, what a time. What a time. I used to wear three wonder bras one on I mean I don't need it now but one on top of each I mean I was like it literally was like a harness

I don't know how I was like hello boy you know they have hello boys but like I couldn't breathe I had so many wonder bra oh my one it was just such a thrill and like I know this sounds really but you remember like buying your first thong yeah and putting it on and being like oh yeah oh gosh and then but then that was the time when you'd put it on but then you'd think I remember being at school and first of all being like I remember getting fitted for a bra right I thought you'd say fitted for a thong I was gonna go Sarah in Cornwall what are they doing I remember getting fitted for a bra and um I really didn't need a bra right my mum was trying to push me down the avenue of like going to the like M&S had arranged for like teens and it was it was basically a crop top and it was like that's not gonna cut it because I want the adjustable straps I want the adjustable straps.

I want the adjustable straps in assembly and fiddle with the straps. Yeah. And you can be like, Oh, I've got a bra on. You want them to see through the shirt a little bit when you're doing. I've just got to ping this. And then, yeah. So the thong era was then we would all, because we were wearing the super low rise hipster black hipster trousers really low rise with that would flare that would completely cover our kippers and the thong would

you know intentionally rise up and you'd be like oh dear oh oh can you see my thong oh yeah as I lean down to pick up my textbook oh let me just readjust yeah all whilst being in complete agony because thongs are desperately uncomfortable they're thrush factories they are horrific like we were buying the really cheap you know cheap material cheap i think top shop it used to be something like five thongs for five pound or i do i do remember there was some sort of thong offer and I'd go in and be like oh that one's got a puppy on yes uh oh a bit of diamante oh yes please I'll have that but you know you what sorry diamante one would be the one for your night out a little gem your night oh put your night out thong on yeah I was desperately uncomfortable in my underwear for probably a decade now it's supermarket all day every day massive pants bras that definitely need to go it's all

it's all bobbly my bra is okay so one thing that you deem a huge success when you're a teenager so that made you feel good that you're like i'm smashing, that you were just like, this is great? Do you know what? It's really tricky because I think my teenage years were so, I was so fixated on being, trying to be popular and, I don't know, be noticed, I think, that I only considered wins to be popular and I don't know be noticed I think that I only considered wins to be like things in my private life like being invited to parties or a cool boy fancying you or somebody saying oh Sarah yeah yeah yeah um and that that like I didn't then really value the things that now if say I was talking to my own kids I would be like

so I even though I'd like really gone for trying to be a bit tall and getting in with the group and you know going out with them and smoking and drinking I know only when I was in the company of certain certain friends yeah rizzos of the rizzos of the world um but I still maintained my like determination like academically I was still deep in that heart I just felt like I couldn't show it as much and I did I was I was a proper boffin so I properly aced my GCSE. Hang on can we just stop on the word boffin yeah have we gone in a time have we literally gone in a time machine I don't think I've heard the word boffin or square I used to get called you're so square boffin yeah a boffin that's what I was and so I was like trying to be in with cool kids but I remember I was trying to I was telling

Henry about this the other day and he was like mum that's so tragic so when I collected my GCSE results there was a post-it handwritten post-it note on it from the head teacher that was like please come and see me once you've opened these it's nothing bad and it was basically because they were so good oh that's really sweet I did well did well. I did well at school. And that was a success. You know, in the background of that, to my drinking and my trying to have a makeover, like, she's all that. Was that the film? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

She's all that. Is that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's all that now, isn't there, where they make over a boy, I think. Yeah, I was trying to be like that. But also, you you know in the background like as you know my mum wasn't very well yeah and so I think that kind of I don't know I'm I'm I'm proud of teenage me for coming out of that with good with good grades and and not ever letting

that like desire to be cool completely undermine who I was which was a it sounds like you've got a good you had a good handle on being a teen it sounds like you've got had a good perspective on it um you didn't let your um more like urges of looking at the men with the inflatables in front of their bits over override your I'm proud of teenage Sarah I think she did I think she did all right I think she went from being really uncool to trying to be cool but still thinking do you know what you need some a stars let's do it let's tell us your results I feel like I need to hear your results. I'm excited. I got, I think it was like, I don't know how many GCSEs people did,

but I did an extra one. Because of course- Of course you did. Of course you did. So I did extra media studies after school on a Monday. So whatever the total number was, I think I got like four or five A stars and then the rest were A's except maths where i got a b that was my that

was my oh that was you that was a dagger you that was let down um but yeah and i got all a's at a level um yeah i cannot relate to anything you're saying apart from the thong i did i did not get one A in anything. In fact, I did get a couple of Ds. That was a bit shocking, actually, because I went to a fancy grammar school. I'm very, very, very pleased to hear that you did so well. I want to know your biggest flop, though. We've heard about the A's, stars and everything. What's your biggest that you cringe when you think of it you're like so many a cringe cringy moment but specifically at that age like 13 14 um pre pre the glow up of sorts i saw an ad saw an advert for this thing that they were doing on the BBC it was called like

BBC talent or BBC kids talent or something like that so it was like that was this the pop by Lyra do you think or was it before that it was actually I don't know. It was certainly, we were certainly onto like Fame Academy by then. Oh, I love Fame Academy. Oh my God. Sneddon. David Sneddon. I still follow him. Stop living the lie.

He's on Instagram. I follow him. Snedders. I saw Fame Academy in concert with Snedders there. I bought Stop Living the Lie single on CD. Yeah, was that Lamar? If there's any justice. it was Lamar was that Lamar if there's any justice yeah uh anyway um so I auditioned for this thing it was like a kids basically to become

like a team of I think like news round reporters or something they wanted kids to make a show and god love me I thought I could do that of course you could you're a boffin i plant so i sent off to get the application form and it came back and it was really long and i had to fill out all this stuff about me but then came to the bit where i had to do a little photo shoot in my garden and i got my sister to take photos of me and emma oh god it's the worst era it's just you know have you gonna have you sent me you sent me some photos is that one of the photos you've sent me yeah the first photo I've sent you is from the BBC talent photo shoot right where I've I look great today so I'm gonna get my

sister to take some photos and you've never seen a more awkward person there was nothing about me that would have been able to have uh presented a tv show you didn't have the x factor they weren't going to look at you and go that's like david sneddon she needs to be on the telly yes it was like a charity thing and they were trying to like boost my self-esteem i had no x factor none none. And I spent weekend, the whole weekend's doing this application form and putting my little portfolio of pictures of me posing in the garden. It was one where I was like, I know what will help. Let's get a picture of me with my guinea pigs. So I got Muffin and Grumpet, the guinea pigs out,

and we had a little photo in the garden. Anyway, those pictures are the what the most awkward worst thing you've ever seen and i sent it off and then at some point i got a letter back saying oh you know we've we have filled the spaces and unfortunately you weren't successful you know what their loss doesn't look at you now success story they could have been doing a this is your life program she started here now look where she is here's her with muffin and crumpet and now here's her with a multi-million book things books i think they were i think they were i mean i can actually imagine a team of people

looking at these applications and going oh dear oh like this feels this feels like kicking a puppy yeah they were just like she can't she can't hack this and just put put on the every photo is awkward i can imagine the application form was awkward god bless my mom and dad for being like yeah you're great i think my ethan would 100 do that he and he would be convinced he was going to be chosen he's like this is it now oh I thought god I'm going to make everybody jealous at school when I'm basically going to be a blue peter presenter you're going to be with who is blue peter presenters I can't think john leslie I hate being on camera I hate it I always as you know I hate it immediately I do stuff with

my arms they all of a sudden seem to grow in length almost as Mr Tickle arms come out um there's no part of me that should ever have been a tv presenter even as a kid so why I applied why and it of course I had to go and get that camera that those photos developed yeah it wasn't just on mom take it on my phone we'll send it it's a get the camera go to the shop print them out the worst pictures and yet I remember thinking oh my sister's done really well with these these are great the kind of childhood hope and faith in yourself is something that you lose and that makes me sad can you imagine me posting it oh can I have some stuff there's photos in there they're really good ones I've got my outfit out I'm gonna be a star and then you just get older

and as you graduate in your teens you're just like oh no reality hits yeah but um I mean it wasn't you know I didn't I don't think at the time I don't I didn't I wouldn't have told any of my friends or anything so it wasn't a it wasn't a known flop but i just remember thinking actually it was my it was that first we have that self-awareness of i'm actually not i'm not cut out for this this isn't something that i am probably good at but um i gave it i gave it it was an internal flop. Oh God. Yeah. It's just stuck with you forever. Okay. This is the question I like to end every podcast with.

Do you wish you were a teenager now? Or are you glad you're a teenager then? I'm glad I was a teenager then. I think. Yeah. I would be terrified of like all the stuff you have to navigate as a teenager anyway to then have the added pressure of social media and you would have put them pictures on social media you would have had your muffiny and company you'd have been like tagging in BBC you'd have

been like your next big star and that would have haunted you for years because i think as well i think my like generation of the people that are in their mid-30s now remember some of their teenage years without phones and technology and some with we kind of straddled those two yeah i was the i was the generation of MSN messenger and stuff like that after school and I can actually remember a certain amount of stress coming from that like logging on and seeing that somebody logged on that you fancied and then I used to do this thing that everybody used to do on MSN messenger which was log out and then log back in again just in case you log in okay so what happened because obviously I was I'm older

than you what happened if you logged in did that like pop up as a notification so I would think like oh x who I fancy who I sit with in maths um they're online but they probably haven't noticed that I'm online because if they had they definitely would have struck they would so I would log back out and then log back in again but we all had song lyrics as our usernames. So nobody had like a name. It was all like, I had pink. It was like, you're just like a pill. Instead of making me better, you keep making me ill. 1987, just logged in, just logged out, just logged in.

Just like a pill. I didn't have Radiohead. I'm a creep. I'm a weirdo. What the hell am I doing here 1989 just logged in just logged out um but I can actually remember a very specific stress associated with they could be talking to me and they're there but they're not and then of course the phone would ring and that would knock out your internet so they would be game over anyway um but I used to find that quite stressful like I liked I liked

the teenage years when your social time with your friends was left at school and you you know you might phone them or you might see them after school so I don't think I'd have coped very well with I think I would have been an anxious social media I mean we're on social media and we're anxious as grown adults if I can't navigate people not replying to my messages or somebody watching my stories and I don't know why they're watching my stories because they don't follow me and I'm 35 and I'm 45 I can't imagine what I would yeah no I think I'm glad it is it's really difficult and I, do you worry for your kids? I do, I do. I do worry for them because I just think they're so,

oh, it's just this whole world out there that's just available at their fingertips. And some of it is terrifying. And they're just constantly on call and in demand and contactable 24 seven, aren't they? You know, if it's not on their phones it's they go they're gaming in the evening and then they're chatting to people in the that they know from school as they're doing their gaming or I don't know I do worry about it but

I think we'll just um you know we'll we'll work it out I think I think like we adapted to different things they adapt to different things like you would you had msn and you're all right i had you know i had a moat by the time i was 15 i had a mobile that was paying to get credit and you know proper text speak because you didn't want to go via characters and you know messaging messaging boys and and all of that so um you know different different times different different well thanks for hanging out with me thanks for phoning from the phone. But I am going to go and Google inflatable bins. I can't stop thinking about it. They send you a whole load of like, I can't stop thinking about it. I will speak to you later, obviously.

And thanks very much for being on the phone box podcast, Sarah Turner, aka The Unrumsie Bun. Thank you for having me. very much for being on the phone box podcast, Sarah Turner, aka The Unmumsy Bun. It was so much fun catching up with Sarah and hearing all about when she was a teenager. We have been friends for such a long time now and she really is a great, she's just a great lady. She is so talented and her books are so brilliant. Her Stepping Up book actually has been chosen as one of Richard and Judy Book Club books. I tell you what, when she told me that, oh how we did scream. And yes, I sent her various memes and pictures of Richard and Judy. She is a decade younger than me, so it was nice to hear about stuff

that I had never heard of. I didn't know about inflatable... I didn't know about inflatable bins, could you tell? I must have mentioned it 50 times. But it's nice to know that universal truths like getting your first thong and having a terrible first snog

happen to all teenagers, regardless of you being in the 90s or in the noughties. Is that what they're called? The noughties? I think so. Yeah, it was fab to chat to Sarah. I hope you've enjoyed this episode of the Phone Box Podcast. I will be back next week with another amazing guest who will take you down memory lane and chat all about the highs and the lows and the in-betweens of their teenage years. And today, I suggest you go to my Instagram. I am going to do a little highlight on my Brummie Mummy of Two Instagram

where I'm going to put photos. I'm going to put photos every week of the guests when they were teenagers, if they're brave enough to send it me. And also Sarah did send me, she WhatsAppped me a picture of some inflatable chairs and things. So I'll put that

on there as well. So go and have a little mooch over that and I will see you next week. Have a lovely week and lots of love. Bye. Hey, you're a Canadian podcast listener, and that makes you important to us. We'd like to know more about you, what you think of this podcast, and the other podcasts you'd like to hear. So we put together a super brief survey we'd like you to fill out. Complete it, and we'll give you a chance to win one of three $100 Amazon gift cards. That way, we can say thanks for your opinion. Just go to mypodcastsurvey.ca and have your say. That's mypodcastsurvey.ca.