The Phonebox Podcast With Emma Conway - SEASON 2 Knee Deep In The 90s: Body Shop Bath Pearls & Heartbreak High Bad Boys

Episode Date: June 5, 2023

Who is not only kickstarting season 2 of The Phonebox Podcast but also loved Body Shop bath pearls and Drazic from Heartbreak High? Victoria Carser from the amazing Knee Deep In The 90's instagram account that's who! We chat through some of the best 90's TV and she dishes the dirt on a former flame she spied on from her bedroom.Follow Victoria on instagram here.For more of me follow @brummymummyof2 on Instagram, YouTube, Facebook and TikTok and follow the all new @phoneboxpodcast account on InstagramIf you have any guest suggestions or topics you would like me to cover email [e-mail] and be sure to tag so I can see where you are listening!Editing by Soundtruism. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Hello lovely ones and welcome back to season two of the Phone Box podcast. My name's Emma. Stick around and listen because every week I have a new guest call in from their phone box and yes it's not a real phone box because real phone boxes now are just places where people wee it's a metaphorical phone box they're going back in time they're getting 10p and they're phoning me from wherever they're living in the country or in the world and talk to me about what their teenage years were like we talk about fashion faux pas we talk about snogs we talk about music they liked all the good things and please remember to stop what you're doing

take a picture where you're listening and send it to me on rummy mummy of two or also you can tag in the phone box podcast instagram page and we love sharing where you are listening so yay guys we're back i'm so excited today i thought now who is the person that knows most about the 90s and it has to be victoria from the viral Instagram account Knee Deep in the 90s. You have literally, as soon as you finish this podcast, go and follow it because it will make your day. It will make your day. She's posting theme tunes to programs you've forgotten. She's posting toys you've forgotten. She's posting all the stuff that me and you love. So you must go and follow it. And this is a very long podcast. It's a very long chat. We cover everything. We're talking about Body Shop Smells Like Jubilee. We're talking

about Drasic from Heartbreak Eye. We're talking about Combat Trap. We're talking about everything. We're talking about it all so enjoy this podcast with victoria from knee deep in the 90s and i will be back to have a little chat at the end welcome to the podcast victoria hi knee deep in 90s hi lovely to have you on um i was just saying how marvelous your background is thank you it kind of matches my green frock today my little my green fridge is in the background yeah my bit of snoozing we're very yeah we look we like bang on trend um i want to know what year you were 14 i was 14 in 1996 1996 so that was the year that i think I was doing my GCSEs. So maybe I was finishing them, you were starting them.

Yes, yeah. So I was kind of very much in the middle of high school. Yeah, yeah. What part of the country? Newcastle. Hey! Yeah, very, very much in the Baker Grove kind of. Yeah.

I had quite a few friends actually that were in biker grove sadly not anton deck but was it not was it spuggy or jeff no it wasn't there oh damn yeah if you said it was jeff i'd have been like wow i mean that would have been weird if you were 14 yeah it would have been a little bit odd if i was friends with you did you ever see Ant and Dec just walking around the streets like royalty? No, I've seen Donna Eyre.

That's a blast from the past. Donna Eyre. What was her character called? What? Honestly, I can't remember. I'm not really good. But yeah, I've seen her.

She's probably like the most famous one. Yeah, yeah. That's like seeing, I saw Cat Dealing in a pub. She's probably like the most famous one. Yeah, yeah. That's like seeing, I saw Kat Dehling in a pub. That's like Birmingham royalty, that is. Oh, yeah, it is. Kat Dehling. Kat Dehling.

She's a really good 90s personality, isn't she? Yeah, and it was in the 90s. Was it? So it was peak, yeah, yeah. Oh, like CD UK, SMT. Yeah, she wore it in and she had like a fake fur jacket. I presume it was a fake fur jacket. It might be real. It was the 90s. She wore something like a fake fur i presume it was a fake fur jacket it might be real

it was a fake fur jacket it was the 90s isn't it yeah and everybody just was like everybody was like oh cat deal is it cat deal is it cat deal is it oh what a time to be alive with me hooch looking at cat deal across a smoky pub because you can smoke there yeah okay what kind of school did you go to uh just like a really average normal school um yeah not private school or anything just no no just not just to come like Grange Hill yes very much yes like Grange Hill a lot of like naughty children in my I wasn't one of them sadly oh that's what I was going to ask where were you in the hierarchy what was your kind of character at school probably geek yeah yeah I mean I want to be I was thinking about this before the podcast and I was kind of like in my head

if you imagine like a pie chart and yeah I was probably like 30 percent natalie embrulia this is okay okay yeah torn natalie torn yeah like with the kind of the snake print top you know um and probably like 20 percent share from clueless so it's a very mixed personality base and that sounds amazing yeah and then probably about 50 percent elizabeth wakefield from sweet valley high the geeky one so but in my head i was just 100 jessica wakefield you were just that was it yeah sweet belly oh that's a great program um you sounded like you were fantastic at school I think I was 100% idiot I can't think of what character I wonder what character oh my god I'm gonna give that some thought I'm gonna give that some thought and I will come back at the end and I'll say I worked out what I was but I wasn't none of them um probably would have loved to be that

I wasn't cool like I think that makes me sound cool I was maybe looking back I was um at the time I felt very much geek but then it's really weird because I think from my account a lot of people the the most amazing thing is that like we were all living the same life with the same toys or the same things but because we didn't have social media we thought we were all unique we thought we were all these like original like you know nobody else likes forever friends nobody else is wearing combat like torn was written just for me nobody else is listening to this song no we weren't yeah that's the thing I like about not having social media back then.

It was just like, but then again, imagine if we did have social media, the access to like the music and the shows and everything would have been phenomenal. Oh, yeah. Like I often think that because I remember like, you know, if you heard a song on the radio and either the DJ didn't say who it was by or you missed it. Like forever, I used to scribble down bits of the lyrics and like wait to hear that song again. It might never happen.

Whereas now, if you hear a song, you can just damn it. Yeah, it's on TikTok. I remember sitting, I recorded Vanilla Ice, you know, and used to record it. Quick record it because the DJ's playing it and then you speak over the beginning you'd be like i record it and after each line all right stop collaborate and listen right write that down and back with a brand new invention write that down i mean that's an intense song to like write all the lyrics you know what i loved it i just sat all down or you could buy smash hits and get the lyrics they had the lyrics in there as well yeah if you were if you were really lucky but then and then there was the time when like your cassette on your tape would break and you would

have to like try and knot the ribbon back together yeah but we might like get the pencil in and like trying to like yeah twist it back and then your song would kind of, like, be fine. And then it would just go. What kind of music were you into? Well, I think if we're talking about 96, it was, like, really weird. Because I kind of, about that time, I started turning into a right indie kid. Which I don't often, like, make reference to on my page. But, yeah, about that time, I became, like, really like really obsessed with like Oasis and Blur I need the okay what's this is the ultimate question who did you choose Oasis or Blur was it Roll With It or was it Country House? Oasis. Everybody's saying Oasis. I always liked

the bad lad like I loved Liam Gallagher and stuff like if there was ever like a program it was always like the bad boy you know like in my so-called life i love jordan patlano um in dawson's creek i love pacey he wasn't that bad but you know bad for dawson's creek yeah uh-huh but yeah uh it was always kind of like the the bad one so i went down a total kind of like oasis ocean color scene all of that kind of music um but in 96 I was probably like I looked back at the popular music at that time yeah and I was probably in trying to be cool like telling everybody I love oasis secretly in my room listening to to like How Bizarre. How Bizarre.

How Bizarre. Oh baby. That was on, that was there was a summer where that was the I swear that was the only song that was played. Yeah. And that's the kind of song though, if you go to like Blackpool Pleasure Beach or somebody, that will come on. How Bizarre.

But it makes the whole song good. Yeah, it's a great song. Yeah. Blur and Oasis. It was just the battle of the bands. I absolutely loved it. I think. Who were you?

Every time I do a podcast, I think I change my mind. I can't remember. I know I really fancied Damon. Did you? Oh, yeah. Yeah. He was so pretty, wasn't he? With his little hair. And he's still pretty Did you? Oh yeah. Yeah. He was so pretty, wasn't he?

With his little hair and he's still pretty now. Oh yeah. I also really fancied Liam. I'll be honest, I really fancied everybody. So it was pretty much, I just fancied the lot of them,

but I can't, I can't quite remember. I'm going to say Oasis, but next time somebody asks me, I might say Blur because I can't remember. I wish I could go back time and look at my diary of what I thought, it was it was a great battle of the bands

wasn't it and then you remember when Robbie left out that and then he turned up with Oasis like with all black teeth oh yeah it's great I know I know it was yeah we were so like invested back then didn't we like when Jerry left the Spice Girls, you know, like I remember there was like press statements and everybody was like really upset. And I was livid because I had tickets for the bloody Spice Girls. Oh, did you? Jerry left.

I want to see the four of them. I know. Yes. And when take that split up, because I put that on my Instagram a couple of weeks ago and, and, and Gary's just there and like his little top, like making a big press statement.

The rumours are true i can't i mean i suppose there hasn't really been anything that major since like one direction went on a hiatus yeah they didn't do i don't know if they did a press thing i've no idea no i don't know yeah they don't they don't just like split up now do they it's like we're gonna come back eventually yeah but then again take that did don't they don't just like split up now do they it's like we're gonna come back eventually yeah but then again take that did didn't they they're still going on what was your bedroom like well at that point it would have been very much sun moon and stars yeah um it was with a dado rail yeah oh we all had a dado rail that parents thought a dado rail was like that's posh that is that was sophisticated wasn't it i'd moved on from the border so i'd had the border i wanted

a dado rail lovely it was like navy with yellow suns on the top and then i think it was like a yellow and white stripe on the bottom. Ooh. Yeah, and a lot of posters, obviously. Of course. A lot of posters. And a lot of kind of like, do you remember we used to buy like postcards with, I don't know, like just random pictures of like sunflowers? Like aesthetic, yeah. Like Athena posters.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like a man holding a baby holding a baby or do you remember that there was the tennis girl that just had like a skirt lifted up with her hand and a bum cheek that wasn't in my bedroom but i remember that wasn't in my bedroom i'm sure it was in a lot of people's but it was yeah yeah the the athena posters oh well athena was a great shot wasn't it one of the one of the classics another one that so you your room sounds quite sophisticated did you have posters on the ceiling no i had growing the dark stars on the ceiling yeah i know yeah it was and i had like glass balls with floating candles um what an ambience

exactly what you need when you're 16 isn't it i don't think I ever lit them oh no then and then the color would fade a little bit because they've been in there would get they would get really dusty and waxy and you would kind of like try and every now and then you get like a bit of toilet roll and go give it a bit of a clean if those are clean you never know when I might like them I had so many knickknacks in my bed like hundreds of knickknacks and I always used to listen to the top four innocent they're just claiming knickknacks oh yeah time of my life tape recorder yeah go on quick he's playing bloody informer quick gotta press record okay so um what was your first crush who was it who did you fancy most in the 90s? Oh, in the 90s. I mean, well, it's probably going back earlier that my first crush was probably Jason Donovan.

Oh, yeah. But in the 90s, it was probably Liam Gallagher, I would say. Yeah. Do you still fancy him now? If he slid into your DMs and said, oi, oi, Shami and you do an Instagram post together, would your heart flutter? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, I think, yeah, he's weathered quite well. Yeah, I think he has, you know. Yeah, I do. So, yeah, you know, you never forget your first love, do you? You never forget. You never, never forget your first love You never forget You never ever forget Your first love

Gary Barlow I don't think there's been a podcast where I haven't mentioned him You know, he's still going strong And he's a silver fox He's aged well as well, hasn't he? Oh, he's aged well Gerard Leto, however, has aged a bit oddly And he's not supposed to be he's a bit

of a i've not heard great things about him but back in the day i know that's a bit you know it's a bit of a disappointment isn't it i've never asked anybody this question but are you enraged that they only ever did one season of my so-called life because i've never got over it i i well i have it on dvd same yeah not that I really have a DVD player anymore I don't think but you know what I've still got it yeah

but yeah but I'm like torn because I think would it have been as good if it had gone on for two seasons so it was like one of those stars

that shine really brightly and then it fades quickly yeah and we always remember it was just a classic I just love everything about it i loved his floppy hair i love her clothes i would still dress like claire danes today because it was like every outfit was the boots with the wooden the long card is the bob

the naughty friend oh god i just loved it i loved it i know and i think it really like i remember i always like sticks in my head there was one episode where she got a really bad spot on her face oh the drama the entire episode was based on that and like basically how it knocked her confidence didn't want to go out and I just remember like feeling so just like this this is my life it is this is my so-called my so-called life and I could really just like you know feel every bit of my being I just thought that somebody like Gerard Leto was gonna go out with me yeah because he was going out with what were their characters called i can't remember um he was jordan oh yeah jordan catalan and angela angela yeah yeah i thought that was gonna be me and i will say a couple of my first boyfriends probably were a bit like oh no hang on bear with they didn't look like jordan cat Carter but they were like the kind of more moody like you

know yeah grungy kid and I was like yeah just living that life just it was phenomenal okay what was your um biggest fashion faux pas oh it's got to be a heeled jelly shoe I would say I mean I know and all the kind of that sounds all right yeah really a pink see-through one with glitter running through it what were you wearing it with I need oh right okay so probably and it gets worse white knee-high socks with a kind of like um checked pinafore dress probably so clueless you're going full clueless yeah yeah and this was kind of very much my split personality so like one minute I would share from clueless the next minute I was like in converse and baggy jeans and like a kind of O'Neill quick silver top yeah um you know like pretending I could skateboard um yeah yeah so it's very much

like torn between the two at that time but yeah i don't look back on the jelly shoes anything no now you said it with the socks that doesn't sound but a little kid in a jelly shoe i love now i'd get a little i will say though my um little girl who's she's not little anymore she's 12 she once saw a jelly shoe went flying in boots yeah running and cracked cracked her head and you know what they gave us a 50 pound voucher so it's like do you know what get the jelly shoes on we're going down boots babots Barb. Come on. Yes, that was like one of those times. She fell and you know when you hear the scream of like, oh, somebody's been murdered.

And her face was bleeding in that £50 voucher. And I think they might have let her pick a toy as well. It was a very dramatic day in the Conway house. Okay, what was your favourite fashion item you ever owned? It probably has to be a pair i could buy a pair similar actually at the moment but i don't want to go back there um of khaki combat trousers that i wore today um a bit old things did they have a dragon of them they didn't actually have a dragon they I know the ones that you meet.

I know they were plain, but they did have the pockets down the side. Oh, and I love them. I just, I love them. With a white, like a low rise, maybe like a white vest or something. Low rise. Yeah. I mean, nobody did high rise, did they? No.

No. And now look at them. There's loads of low rise things in the shops at the moment and I couldn't think of anything not for me, I couldn't, my gut would just be like flop, it would my C-section scar would eat the top of low rise comebacks, it would just gobble it up, gobble it up, but I went into Urban Outfitters and I was like

they've got like Van Dutch hats yeah, Van Dutch hats Stussy hats maybe did they have or am I imagining in that they've got the trousers with the dragons and like erin is desperate for um a von dutch and i think when i was i had like a van a van dutch hat i had like a fake one from a spanish holiday yeah it's like well i'm just like paris hilton yeah it's mad isn't it how it's all coming how it all you know goes around a tartan trousers back in i feel like because i do you ever have tartan trousers butterfly clips are definitely

back oh yeah she's got them everywhere i'm not sure whether face glitter is going to come back i think we've like maybe the world's moved on maybe the hat i mean if fondue is back we're only seconds away from face glitter and body shot. What are those things you put on? What are those balls called? I think you put them on your account before. Oh, yeah. Well, either bath beads or people call them different things.

Yeah. Bath beads. Yeah, and you put them in and it would just be like slimy. Yeah, it would just dissolve. And then it would nearly like slip and fall out of the bath so dangerous what was the really what was the quintessential body shop smell there was a smell wasn't there was a scent fuzzy peach i loved a fuzzy peach oh i loved a fuzzy peach. Dewberry. Dewberry. Now, dewberry made me feel physically sick. Did it?

Yeah. White musk. I mean, it's between the three, isn't it, really? You know. Fuzzy peach. Oh, and you'd go and you'd get a little bag and you'd buy like maybe three. Yeah. You'd be like.

And you'd have a bath with just a bit of slight, like a little bit of slime just floating back. But they were all another thing, along with the floating candles, that I was very into displaying everything that I owned in the 90s. So I would have my bath beads on displaying a little wicker basket. Of course you would. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, you know, I never used anything. I think that's like something that's fascinating about this time. Like everybody's like, oh, I about this time like every everybody's like oh I never used my bath pills I never lived oh no I I bet if you go into my mum nanny san's bathroom

there'll be some bath pearls in like a little a little basket maybe with some pot puree I had um now maybe this is a very niche thing did Did you ever collect tiny ceramic, like, teddy bears and things? Yeah. Oh, so that's the thing that I thought it was just me that maybe everybody did. I think, well... Really tiny ones. There's actually, like, this really good charity shop

that's just open. It's, like, a charity superstore that's just opened up. And it's great for me in terms of, like, content because I just go in all the time and like have a week around and there's cherished teddies which i think might be what you're referring to like little very small and they look like little teddies little and they would maybe like sat on a some toy blocks or something i had a few of them yeah and i had one of my most successful posts actually was like these. It's so random. Little like ceramic frogs that used to come attached to a stone.

And I don't know what we did with them. No. We just displayed them. And then they faded. And then we cleaned them while we were listening to the top 40. That's what we did everywhere. There was nothing else to do. All the shops were closed.

Nothing was open. What else are you going to do? There was nothing else to do all the shops were closed nothing was open yeah what else you're gonna do there's nothing else to do if you want from roam the streets and yeah hopefully not get murdered by anybody because we in the 90s we were just out all day i saw like an instagram post the other day actually like a quote that was something like you know our parents didn't realize in the 90s how far we were going on our bike like we used to just go out in the summer holidays we would leave the house at like nine o'clock in the morning come back yeah i was at my mom has moved back to to an area close to where we used to live and it's by a park and i said oh me and claire used to go paddling in in

the the stream there yeah so when we were little and And she's like, no, you didn't. I was like, yeah, that's where we go. We'd be on our bikes down the park. Yeah. It's not safe. Children. Just like, yeah, it's fine. Yeah, I know. It was.

Little fish things. I know. I know. It was amazing. What was your greatest teenage success? Oh, that is a hard one. I don don't know did you snog a boy other people fancied I feel like that's a great teenage success I'm not saying people should aspire to do that but it's a good one well I did snog a boy that who became my boyfriend who yeah um so I suppose

and I did fancy him for like a long, long time. Oh, lovely. Was that your first snog? No, no. What was your first snog like? Was it gross or was it nice? It was awkward. Yeah. I think it wasn't like really bad, but I think it was like at a party. Do you know how, I don't know if you used to do this.

I assume you did. Everybody as they turned 18 in our school had a party in a social club I um I had one in the Irish Centre yeah yeah yeah of course yeah and we were like we never knew whether if if you hadn't turned 18 you might get ID'd at the social club and not were they ID'd because they weren't ID'd in Birmingham really oh no they were IDing us so we used to take drink with us in case we didn't get served but then if we did get served we also had

double drinks what a dream so it was always a night of peach schnapps you know that's what you drank isn't it and yeah I remember my first and my first snog uh snog such a 90s word isn't it do you think anybody the kids still say i wonder if i said to

my daughter snog if she would know what i was talking about yeah i know i i don't know but i don't i don't know what they say kiss making it making out no that's not that's definitely not that's not modern is it making out. That's not modern, is it? Making out from Greece or something? Snog? Maybe they would just say kiss. Well, if you watched Love Island. Do you watch Love Island?

I did. I didn't watch this time, but I do watch it, yeah. In this one, they were calling kissing lipsing, which... I've never heard that. That's a new one, isn't it? Oh, do you know what? I'm going to test that. out i'm gonna say to her tonight how could i how would you put that in a sentence i think like yeah

like you do you watch people lips in our age when we're doing i can't even put it in a sentence like kind of like oh did you go out last week? Were you lip-syncing? That doesn't make any... If you said that to me, I would think you were talking about Drag Race and was I lip-syncing? And I'd be like, yeah, of course I was lip-syncing. I was doing Beyonce.

What are you talking about? Lip-syncing, I'm going to ask her. If you have young people or you are young people listening to this, message me and let me know. Yeah, I know. FanDuel Casino Daily Jackpots. Guaranteed to hit by 11pm with your chance at the number one feeling, winning. Which beats even the 27th best feeling, saying I do.

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Okay. Weren't they all? All of them. You know, so this was before the kiss. Okay. That I was in love with a boy who lived in my street. Oh. Oh.

And we were actually really good friends, but he started to go out with a girl who lived around the corner. She's a cat. Yeah, she was. She was my friend, obviously, up until this point. And she lived over the back of my house. And he used to go round to her house. And I used to spy on them.

I can't believe I'm admitting this. It's just like that, just looking. Did have any like kind of little tiny binoculars yeah what do you have like a telescope in my house so I could see into her house it was always better in winter when the trees didn't have leaves on, you know, because I could get a much better view then. Yeah? But, yeah, I was absolutely heartbroken. And I remember kind of when it came to the, you know, the deciding moment, it was Valentine's Day.

And, you know, when you're waiting for that red envelope to hit, you know, to hit the letterbox back in the day. Never hit. No, it never came. I don't think i got one did you ever every year i would oh i got some i think no after mum oh no i always got one off my nan i got one off my mom and every year and it would say sealed with a loving kiss and a question mark i mean that's off my nan that is off my nan yeah um but no i don't think I think I was probably 18 when I got my first one and then when I got it I was really I felt a bit awkward about it all to be honest yeah I always wanted to be that girl in school who like do you know when they got the cards that

were almost the same size as them um and they would get like a forever friends teddy a fake like plastic rose you know if a boy had bought me a forever friends teddy i would hold in like a little cuddly toy rose yeah that would have i would i would i'll be honest i'd have kept that i'd still have that now i know i'd put that in a little memories box but sadly that was not my life that was not my life either I do have a memory box but it's kind of like full of um old cinema tickets and oh yeah I've got concert tickets 17 tickets I've got my Gary Barlow doll scrapbooks I've got um Bross albums I don't have a record player I just can't I've got a few like Judy Blume books and so. I just can't let go of this stuff. It's just upstairs.

Just, do you remember the Anastasia books? Did you ever read those? Yeah. Yeah. I gave them to my daughter. I kept them all and they're all yellow now. And I gave them to her to read and she was like, she did, to be fair, she did read them. Did you like them?

I think she said, I don't know if some of the kind of theme in it was maybe a bit outdated. bit outdated I don't I mean well it definitely will be I'm sure it's not a very woke book but yeah I gave her four there's one where it's like Alisaie's like holding a tennis racket yeah yeah yeah yeah I loved it yeah yeah so and she gave them to me and I thought I can put these in the charity box and then I took them out and I was like no maybe my grandchildren will want to read a book that's like 50 years old. I'm lucky I've kept quite a lot of stuff, or my mum has. But I've also started as part of like running this account, buying back things that I had in my childhood that I didn't have anymore.

But I've only got a little boy, he's five, nearly six. And I try and read stories to him. And know he's just not interested I'm like oh this was my favorite story as a child but I think things really have dated you know even the language in a lot of the books is you know it's the films as well I watch 90s films with Erin yeah and what was I and this is this is not 90s 90s I'm watching the Gilmore Girls which obviously isn't 90s but that's like 20 years ago and some of the plots that at the time I thought oh my gosh that's so romantic I'm like no that is just

like a very controlling teenage boy and I'm like Erin you do not have to say you love somebody just because somebody says like there's and like Legally Blonde there's a few jokes and you're like oh god this is not a this would not pass yeah I think it's amazing how the world has has moved on so much I'm I know I posted um a real deal I did with a lot of Sweet Valley twins books they were like my ultimate favorite book um and you know one of the comments on it i think was

you know how even though this person loved those books back in the 90s just kind of like the the blonde haired blue eyed girl that oh yeah it kind of portrayed and how you know how damaging that is and i kind of in some ways i look back and i think oh you know it how damaging that is. And I kind of, in some ways I look back and I think, oh, you know, it was really nice because we were quite naive and we were just happy. Yeah. We're happy. But also probably having lots of psychological damage we weren't aware that was going on.

Yeah. Heroin chic. We were like, yeah, heroin chic. Now we're all tearing up. Anxious. Yeah. And then it's like ladettes. They were like, you all want to be ladettes. And it's like, yeah they were like lad you all want to be ladettes

and it's like yeah i know i just want to be just like a man because that's like really cool i'm gonna cut all my hair off and i'm gonna drink beer because that is how it's like well actually no that's a bit crap that's like you don't really want to be a ladette but at the time i was like i'm like zoe ball what are you talking about i'm like they're yeah there's some i imagine the sweet valley high books probably have stuff about dieting yeah and yeah some strange plots in i can imagine and the playing girl i bet she's a bit chubby and i can imagine there's yeah the world will have moved on um yeah but you still look at them and the theme tune for sweet valley high i think he's just so fab yeah it's just me too was it was it why are they twins in that program or was it the same person

was it the same person playing two people no no they were actually twins I don't remember being slightly disappointed by the tv series like I was so excited when it was coming out because I was a massive fan but then I think the way that I'd which is often the case isn't it with books in like movies or whatever but you build them in you build how they look in your mind and then when yeah I think you're like that's not how I imagine it's not it's not quite what um I I haven't I don't usually do this but I asked you to pick some of your favorite stuff from the 90s but I think I'll just what was your favorite tv show of the 90s probably either my so-called life or Dawson's Creek. Yeah.

I don't want to wait. Or Harbouric High. Memory Unlocked. Yeah, that was great. Was that New Zealand or Australia? Yeah. Was it? Yeah.

Australian, I think. But I mean, it's on, you can watch it. I think it's on Prime. But, and I've tried watching it back. I never, I can watch Dawson think it's on Prime but and I've tried watching it back I never I can watch Dawson's Creek though actually

but I remember Heartbreak High being so like raw and kind of like quite I think there was a lot of parents

complaining at the time about Heartbreak High oh really you know and I loved it did you ever watch Shortland Street no

what Shortland oh you know Shortland Street whatever that was an easy know shortland street was uh i haven't imagined i'm thinking i did a dream but no shortland street was a program i think it was set in like a hospital and i think that was that was either new zealand and it had a really handsome man in it who's now in grey's anatomy oh really he's playing an american because i'm he's he's he's called martin something and he's in gray's anatomy now and my heart still flutters and in shortland street he was like a school

pupil with like floppy hair and everything and now he's but look it up shortland street um it it was it was a good earn it was i think it was on just before so you're getting at 10 past five and i think it was in like the biker grove slot but maybe on itv before neighbors it was like a before then you'd watch neighbors then you'd watch everywhere oh yeah and maybe hollyoaks yeah i mean it was great wasn't it i still look back at that time when i used to like get in i would maybe do a bit of homework get it out the way then sit down and it was just like one program after another yeah it was net it was just absolutely so you'd have biker grave children's ward was another great one i never watched news around though and i certainly

wouldn't watch blue peter i didn't watch blue peter i think the only time i tuned into blue peter and this is probably 80s is when they did that tracy island thing like i knew you're gonna say that i knew you're gonna say i knew you're gonna say when they did tracy's island because i was the same and i thought should i make a Tracy's Island no never did it no I never did it I mean you know it was very impressive but I like to think

I was a little bit cooler than that yeah but I think Blue Peter now is a bit cooler and my kids wouldn't go oh I'm not watching Blue Peter

because it's but I think it's not so bad and Newsround I think Newsround like they're watching Newsround in school and stuff don't they but I wouldn't have

watched Newsround either unless it was the day that Tate that split up and they were talking about that I ain't watching Newsround, I think Newsround, like they're watching Newsround in school and stuff, don't they? I wouldn't have watched Newsround either. No, I didn't watch it. Unless it was the day that Tate that split up and they were talking about that, watching Newsround. So what other were your favourite things from the 90s? Probably like, well, shopping. Like, you know, just going. So like all the memories of kind of like going on a Saturday, meeting your friends, getting the bus to town, going around to the Body Shop, Jane Norman, River Island, Miss Selfridge.

I wasn't into Topshop in the 90s. Maybe at the end of the 90s. But I feel like I started out as Miss Selfridge. And I remember kind of going in and had that the little makeup stand in the it was really ahead of its time when they had all of the brightly colored nail varnishes but yeah up until that point it was like you had red nail varnish like a pearl pink um which makes me laugh actually because now it's kind of black and everybody calls it chrome and I'm like yeah no that's that's helping for your nanowar but yeah and you used to go in and um try all of the different

colored nail varnishes and they were like it was spilt everywhere um oh yeah of course a total mess and the staff didn't care i worked in wallace oh did you oh yeah i worked in next next to nothing now I don't know if this is a Birmingham thing so next to nothing was a discount next shop so I used to work there and then I moved on to Wallace and Wallace is just like older ladies who would come in and have a little look around but would you remember Kukai oh I loved Kukai but that was quite a classy one Kukai was expensive oh yeah I mean it probably wasn't

expensive but to me it felt like that that's where I got my prom dress from that was like what was your prom dress like it was so inappropriate it was like

a halter it wasn't like a proper it wasn't like what you'd see now it was white on the top with like came up like a halter neck no bra obviously because i didn't have any boobs because it was the 90s and then like a short

black thing at the bottom so it was not a prom dress yeah but um it was from kukai and i felt like an absolute queen in it i bloody loved it yeah oh yeah i absolutely loved it see like but you know you're lucky you had a prom because we didn't really have we had a disco um yeah but it proms weren't a thing like they are today like where i mean now i look at kids and it's like they're almost getting married they're like in these dresses going off in it is crazy no we were a bit ahead of the curve so yeah we we had a we had a prom um and the boys went in tuxes which is always funny seeing like two-node boys and tuxes and stuff and then the girls just wore a nice dress and

the teachers all went and everybody got a bit drunk because in the 90s teachers are just drinking in front of the kids then what obviously probably just having a fag if you want a fag they're just having a lot of having a smoke having a smoke in front of the kids um what else did you love from the 90s i love rollerblading isn't that oh but it's not sad good yeah i like that you were like that but i was yeah i was good i wasn't just an average rollerblader i was i was great. Oh, this was when another crush, Brazic from Heartbreak High, saw... Oh, my. Brazic was so fit. Oh, yeah. I know.

Now, he didn't have floppy hair, did he? He had really short hair. He had, like, an eyebrow piercing. Oh, yeah. Oh, lovely. Yeah, and he rollerbladed as well. Yeah. I wonder what he's doing nowadays.

Oh, well, do you know what? He's trying to... Oh, no. Yeah. No, he was... I actually looked him up the other day. I wonder what he's doing nowadays Oh well do you know what Oh no I actually looked him up the other day I can't remember why and he's still an actor he's been in quite a few big movies but he was in a really serious

car accident where his whole face collapsed and they rebuilt his face and actually I mean it's amazing but i mean you can kind of tell it's him but i mean you wouldn't but if you walked in you wouldn't go no you would just think i looked him up and i was like i said to my husband oh do you recognize this guy um i think he's been in like a batman movie or something which i haven't watched and he was like yeah yeah i do and i was like that's classic from far break i and he was like, yeah, yeah, I do. And I was like, that's classic from Far Break, eh?

And he was like, oh, I wouldn't know. Oh, I'm going to look up, because I do watch Batman films. I'm going to have a little look up of that. Did you prefer Neighbours or Home and Away? Oh, that's a tough one. I would say, like, I, up until Neighbours finished last year, I still watch Neighbours. So my sister went to meet them all when they did the tour.

Yeah. She did. Best day of her life. Like, it's coming back, and I'm actually watching it on Amazon at the minute. Like, I'm watching it, the old ones. And I still really like Neighbours. But when I was in the 90s, there were times when I actually preferred Home and Away, I think. Yeah, I think it's because you would

have loved Dieter Brummer yes I mean who didn't you know the eight the Shane and Angel plot you'd have been like oh it's like the modern day Romeo and Juliet I remember them sneaking around Donald Fisher's kitchen in the middle of the night and that was just like you know you wanted to wake up in the middle of the night didn't you and just like go downstairs to get a glass of milk and Dieter Brummer and there was Dieter Brummer with no top just like leaning up against her and I don't know in his boxers. Do you remember Dan

Fowles? He was awesome. I met him in the 90s. I did. He came over for a road show and I managed to get a photo with him and he had his floppy hair. Oh, my God. I'm going to tell you something.

This is really, really sad, but I'm not bothered because, you know, we're at that age where we get that. Yeah, it's fine. I've still got it. I'll send you a photo to a podcast. I've got, like, you know, when you used to cut out magazines, so I cut out a picture of Dan Falzon, okay? Yeah.

Stuck it onto a bit of card, wrote on the back, I heart Dan Falzon forever. Of course, yeah. Laminated it. Manifested it. I kept it in my wallet. I've still got it. Yeah.

Was it still in your wallet? Well, it's not in the wallet that I carry around. Was it there on your wedding day, tucked in the top of your wedding dress? You know, now I know I love him and don't need to carry it around. To prove it. Somebody else came on the podcast

and they carried around a picture of Carol Decker for years in their wallet. No, Dan Falzon was really, he was like really handsome. He was, wasn't he? How many I had? He's seen Dan Falzon now though. No. I mean, you know, I'm being careful what I say

because I don't know who's been listening to this podcast. I mean, Dan Falzon actually regularly listens. Does he? No. I don't want to insult him, know just be like hopeful there but like he's not he hasn't kind of matured you know in oh so he's still like down with the kids but 35 years later I did look him up look him up oh I'm gonna have a great afternoon look at all these people you are you are it was just so do you are you glad you were a teenager then

or do you wish you were a teenager now? Oh, I'm glad I was a teenager then. I mean, yeah, I'm nervous for my little boy to grow up now. But equally, I think I bet every generation says that. Oh, 100%, yeah. I think everybody looks back on their childhood and with fond memories which is great I think if you if you've had a good childhood that's definitely the way that it should be um yeah I'm pleased that my childhood was in the 90s I think it was amazing yeah I I

have very fond memories I'm just thinking though imagine if we'd had social media and and debt would have PJ and Dougal were mega stars we'd had social media and and debt would have pj mega stars if we had social media back in the day yeah take that i mean because they were huge anyway they would have been absolute it would have been just another level wouldn't it yeah it was just but i quite like the fact that we had to cut out the lyrics from the magazines and we all cut out like teeny tiny pictures and put them in scrapbooks. You know, like saying earlier, I was a massive Oasis fan. I remember when Be Here Now came out, I think that was 97.

And because like What's The Story, Morning Glory had been such a massive album and Be Here Now wasn't as good but it was the hype that surrounded it and I remember going to Q outside HMV in Newcastle when the date came out I've still got a certificate actually saying what number I was so by the album yeah you don't get that hype anymore because you just go on Spotify and like yeah you just you literally would just yeah you would just go where there's we had to you go and get like that i've got i've got upstairs like the seven inch of babe which was like a photo frame and you could pull it out and it'd have like a card of each of the members of take that and stuff yeah i've still got all those upstairs or you'd fold it out and be like a big giant poster that you could put on your wall maybe

yeah really lucky you would have the lyrics in the insert of the... Oh yeah, in the kind of font that you would... You'd be literally like that. Yeah. I couldn't quite read it. Sometimes the words weren't quite right. And then I'd also read like, who are they thanking? Who is this woman?

Who is she? Is she going out with one of them? I'd be like that. Yeah. Deep, deep diving. It's been so lovely to have you on the podcast. I highly recommend everybody who's listening to this podcast, go and follow Victoria's Instagram.

I'll leave it in the description because you are our people. We are all one. We are. When you put Spats up the other day, I was like. Yes. I love Spats. Spats isn't anything, isn't it? I mean...

And maybe was that like a one-series wonder, perhaps? Or did they do a few? I think there was a few, you know, of spats. Yeah, I think there was a few. Do you remember Cone Zone? No, what's Cone Zone? Well, it was very like spats. I think it was probably by the same people,

but only it was in an ice cream parlor, not like a burger restaurant. But yeah, very similar. Maybe even had some of the same people. Do you remember California Dreaming? Yeah. Had the album. Oh, did you serve dudes with attitudes?

I think it was called Tiffany the Blonde once, and I wanted to be her. Yeah, she was dead straight hair, didn't she? I didn't fancy any of the boys. Now, I did fancy everybody, but I didn't fancy anybody in California Dreamin'. I didn't fancy any of them, but Jake, who I think was like the hot drop one,

he follows me on Instagram. So that's one of my click-throughs. Yeah, I know. I know. Yeah. It's the 90s. Vanilla Ice follows me on Instagram. So that's one of my click-throughs. Yeah, I know. I know. Yeah. It's the 90s. Vanilla Ice follows me on Twitter.

I mean, no one ever goes on Twitter anymore and he follows literally 45 million thousand people. But I'm one of them. You go,

you go on. I'm one of them. I once did the full Vanilla Ice rap on my Instagram and tagged him in and he was like, I like the cut of a jib

and he followed me. Imagine, imagine me, I like the cut of a jib. And he followed me. Imagine me sitting in my hotel, vanilla ice following me. Oh, I was with my family on holiday. I was like, who's vanilla ice? Who's vanilla ice? What are you talking about? It was lovely to speak to you. And I will speak to you very soon.

Thank you. Bye. How good was she how good was her knowledge of 90s just everything you must as soon as you finish this podcast you literally go and follow on instagram immediately because you will love it every day she's posting stuff and I'm like I forgot that existed she's absolutely brilliant so thanks to Victoria for coming on the first episode of season two. Don't forget to take those photos so I can see where you're listening. Also be sure to

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