The Phonebox Podcast With Emma Conway - Snogging In Dodgy Combat Trousers: Kate LesBeMums
Episode Date: March 4, 2024Who wore combats with bits hanging off them and inexplicably covered her wall in dolphins and free AOL CDS? Kate from LesBeMums that's who! She joins The Phonebox Podcast to chat about her love of Nir...vana, Heath Ledger and why the heck were we so obsessed with end of the world movies?You can follow Kate and Sharon on instagram here or read their blog here.For more of me follow @brummymummyof2 on Instagram, YouTube, Facebook and TikTok and follow the @phoneboxpodcast account on Instagram for polls and nostalgic fun.If you have any guest suggestions, topics you would like me to cover email admin@brummymummyof2.co.uk and be sure to tag so I can see where you are listening!#90s #90smusic #nostalgia Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Hello and welcome to this episode of the Phone Box Podcast. I hope you have had a lovely week.
You've been enjoying the series so far. Please do go and message me over on the Phone Box Podcast
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doing stories and all sorts of fun things on brummie mummy up too now we've got a wonderful
guest on the podcast but she's just had to use a calculator to work out her own age
she wasn't using a calculator to work out when she was 14 she kind of had that nailed it was her own it was her own age now so welcome to the podcast kate now kate
what year were you 14 according to what i've written down for 2001 so we've worked that out
2001 so kate where can the people find you online tell tell everybody um i am over at lesbian mums
um which is i thought i still think it's a really
cool name because it's a mixture of I think it's a great name and let's be mums um and me and Sharon
and my wife always argue as to who thought about it I'm convinced I thought about it because I'm
the creative type but Sharon thinks that she did it but whatever I'll let her have that um
oh yeah I'm over at let's be mums um on mainly on Instagram a little bit of TikTok and I do have
a blog but it's a bit broken at the moment but I do do do do have a blog because yeah there's some
good resources yeah there's great resources on on the blog we were just talking do blogs
do blogs still even exist but you're going to try and revive it a little bit aren't you I'm going to
try yes because sometimes yeah I do think sometimes my Instagram posts are a bit long
and I'm like yeah I probably could have could have been a blog post in a blog post okay so 2001
you turned 14 we've talked about this before did you think the world was going to uh end when the
millennium bug came I don't think I did I mean we were in Brighton at the time and we all seemed to
have like gravitated towards Brighton Beach as if that was like i don't know we ended
up on brighton beach during the millennium there might have been a couple of microwaves there i
don't know but yeah we did it we i didn't think it was going to blow up but it was a bit oh my god
what is this like this cult sort of stood on the beach looking at the sunset going like counting
down as oh my god do you remember the film deep impact you might be a bit too young yes and she
stands on the beach and the wave comes that's probably it you're probably like i'm gonna deep
impact it with you know yeah she's there with the dad oh my god that film is so upsetting that and
the day after tomorrow there was quite a lot of disaster movies in that era as well 100 there was
deep impact there was what was an adult i'll miss the thing the one armageddon armageddon there was loads of apocalyptic terrifying films and we lapped it up we loved it
and i think it just gave us a sort of a purpose to just keep like keep on living because it could
happen just go down to brighton if a big wave comes we together. Okay, so you grew up in Brighton. Want to know what your bedroom was like?
Well into dolphins, as you were back in that time.
I don't know why.
And, God, I had this, like, blue, it was two-tone blue.
So, like, one half of the room was like a, oh, God, like a lighter blue.
And then the other half was like a darker blue.
Then it was
split around the room and then then I was going to put a border to cut put the two colors together
I can't even look at you right now and then and then we were later saving up to put like a dolphin
board around the edges but instead I thought you know what would be really really cool you know
like in WH Smith when you used to pay we were at the checkout you used to get these free cds for AOL and the to join AOL you get
these free cds to download and stuff I had like fucking 40 of them facing the other way
around my room and I don't I don't know I don't know if I was just on crack at the time I don't know why
it looked really cool I wasn't even into I don't know you weren't even into AOL I wasn't even into
AOL or the internet or anything like it's still a diet like it was just no I think that my I had
a friend called Sally oh I still have a friend called Sally and she had Diet Coke cans, which she cut in half and stuck on a wall.
That was just a wall of Diet Coke cans.
So I think it might have been a thing at the time to be a bit creative.
So I'm going to say sounds great.
It was great. And eventually we took them all off.
I mean, I stuck them down with some fricking like like that fishy sort of glue I stuck him down really good so that was a my mum really
appreciated it when we had to then take him off around yeah just like the cement like the
the plastic came off and everything um and then yeah we had the dolphin border so I pretty much
had like a dolphin themed bedroom for pretty much most of my teenhood
and then I started getting into boys for like a little while and I thought nice is that a good
look um and yeah that was it really but yeah that was the highlight dolphin everything
did you have any pictures that posters of famous people anywhere or I did I had a couple of posters by my bed of Heath Ledger. Oh, lovely. Lovely. Heath Ledger and, oh God, I think another actor, similar sort of period, sort of, no, it wasn't Josh Hartnett.
Who was it? But it was similar. Heath, like, they had a strong jawline.
They were, they were, I was there.
So Josh Hartnett, what was he, he was in one of them films that was out at that time as well.
What was that film?
The one that most are still cast, like the 40 Days, 40 Nights days 40 nights yeah it was that's not the one i'm thinking but that yeah that was a good
film i'm thinking that there was like a war film he was in maybe like a vietnam i feel like that
might have been a tragic film but he said just so was it he led you in 10 things i hate about you
10 things i hate about you for the closely You By Night's Tale. Yes. Yes.
Oh, lovely Heath. Lovely Heath Ledger.
We miss you.
Yeah, lovely Heath Ledger.
Yeah, 10 Things I Hate About You.
But really, it probably was Heath Ledger and Jessica Stiles,
but I was obviously not aware at the time.
No, you were just Heath Ledger.
I was just Heath Ledger.
Okay, so what kind of music were you into?
Things like Blink-182 and Green Day and sort
of anything that was pretty much in a Kerrang magazine but I had like still under my bed a
small sort of stack of CDs of like Boyzone, Take That, Backstreet Boys and I don't know why but
it was like shh I don't tell anyone I'm meant to be really grungy and cool and punk rock now that's
my thing that's my thing but like no my thing. But like, no matter what,
like still,
it's just when everyone was gone,
it was like,
no matter what,
it's just everything.
And doing sort of like,
and then like the music would go off suddenly.
It'd be like,
right.
Going back to green day and stuff.
I don't know why.
I was the opposite.
I used to pretend I liked the cure.
I was just like,
I was just like,
but then I just fully went in to take that. And my friends are just like, she just loves to take that. I'd have Cure. I was just like, I was just like, but then I just fully went in to take that.
And my friends are just like,
she just loves to take that.
I'd have the doll.
I'd have, I'd be rocking up with it.
Stussy hats again, I think is a bit before your time.
I used to dress like a boy band.
That's what I thought.
That's how I thought I was going to pull a boy band,
would be dressed like them.
Because they all fancy 15 year old girls dressed like them.
Well, they did.
And that's a problem.
It's coming out now.
They did.
That's what happened. They did. I was saying, yes yes so in a podcast it's really difficult with the 90s so many people have been cancelled so you'll talk about someone then you'll be like oh no
or you think they've been cancelled then they've not been cancelled or you're like oh it's very
strange you look at them then they realize they died oh my god R.I.P Heath
okay so what kind of school did you go to look at them, then they realise they died. Oh my God! R.I.P. Heath.
Yeah, exactly.
Okay, so what kind of school did you go to?
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I went, so when I was growing up, we lived in Kent originally and I went to this
lovely little I say village this little village school which was very pleasant and it was just
it was well funded and it was very very pleasant there was like 10 to 12 kids in the class and then
I moved to Brighton where there was like 30 kids in a class roughly and it was just I was just trying to think like
St Trillian's like it was a mixed school it was just it was Ofsted were visiting every week and
it was not funded and it was just awful like it's awful like teachers love my teachers but my god
they have a hard job yeah um and I did love my school life because it was a laugh but yeah it
was such a different transition and I'm like I remember when my mum life because it was a laugh but yeah it was such a different transition
and I'm like I remember when my mum had like the talk with like the deputy head when we came and
transitioned from one school to the other and where we'd come from like single parents weren't
a thing let alone a gay mum and things like that so when she had the talk she's like oh well I'm
I'm a single mum and they're like pretty much 80% of our demographic yeah so it's just a different culture change so that took a while to get used to when I
was a kid especially like as I think I moved down to Brighton when I was 10 and that wasn't too bad
but yeah that was a culture shock. A bit like Grange Hill? Pretty much yeah Grange Hill mixed
with yeah St Trillian's mixed with just prison so yeah a bit dark yeah it was a bit dark yeah
yes where were you in the hierarchy did you have like a big gang of mates or did you keep yourself
to yourself a real mixture so we weren't like in the popular group but then i wasn't sort of
in like the nerdy group we were sort of in that it's middle of the range group where the popular
kids were sort of dip into our group but they if they'd
had a falling out um but then yeah we were sort of smack bang in the middle which was nice because
I didn't it it meant I was afforded this sort of popular kid privilege where I could sort of sit
with them and they wouldn't really pay me much attention I could I sort of got an education still
and it was nice so I sort of like smack bang in the middle because again we were just sort of oddballs we were sort of a bit punky a bit grungy but also a bit sort of
jeans denim jacket trainer sort of people as well so so you just mentioned fashion what kind of um
fashion faux pas did you have is a particular outfit you're like oh my god that was terrible
yeah there was this they went through this phase wearing, you'd wear like a long sleeve top underneath a t-shirt.
So I'd have like my Nirvana t-shirt because I actually like Nirvana.
So I could have a Nirvana t-shirt that was way too big for me.
Then I'd have like a long sleeve white top underneath.
And then we'd have these like grungy trousers,
which were always ripped because they were like always on the floor and you'd
have skater shoes on. But then there was these trousers that had these tassels.
I don't know the tassels that, do you remember the tassels that came no they were
like there were tassel trousers like they were like combati like cargo pants they're like a
massive pocket um and then they had like random just bits of fabric and like they i don't know
what the purpose was that you didn't like you couldn't make the trousers they were head they
had no purpose they literally had a bit of fabric so when you'd walk you sort of stuck indoors and
like no i need to google this i feel with the bottom of your trousers all ripped because they
got wet in the rain and the rain are just like yes my mom hated them she's like what is this
and just you know i just yeah it was ruined i just jeans didn't last that long because i never had like thin jeans they were always baggy jeans really thick like yeah the bigger the bigger the
like leg cut like sometimes i didn't have feet i literally just had these sort of yeah
do you remember pigeon street pigeon that might be a bit yeah they had they had used just to have
feet that was just there was no feet it was just like triangle like you sort of like you're floating like the craft like you're just sort of floating along the street
you should have kept your nirvana t-shirts you know it's back in trend now i know that proper
they would have actually been like vintage like actual because they would they came from like
a old music shop in brighton like they weren't just a new look they were from like a proper
music shop and it went straight to the band.
Like it was a proper.
I wear a Nirvana top.
I wear a Nirvana top and the people get so angry.
What's your favourite song?
And I'll go, the one about spirit.
I don't know any of them.
It's pink.
Look, I've said it online.
I'll say it to anybody who disagrees with me if you
kate if you wanted to wear an all-in-one gary barlow jumpsuit with just his face on go ahead
i wouldn't mind i wouldn't get annoyed so don't get annoyed at me for wearing a hot pink nirvana
top from h&m it's fine it's fine and my daughter's got one as well. And neither of us know what's going on. I was going to say, does your daughter live with her?
No.
Of course she does.
So, yeah, I did.
But I did have Smells Like Teen Spirit on cassette from the Britannia Cassette Club,
where they used to send you free cassettes.
Well, they'd send you cassettes.
And then if you didn't send them back in time, you had to pay.
And my dad messaged me.
He was like, I had to pay so much money for all these cassettes you know so I did have that I bet it's probably
upstairs still somewhere I should get it out to give to my daughter we can't play it on anything
oh and he'd like look through it like just what do you do with this she'll just put it on the side
next to Olivia Rodrigo and they'll be like oh I'm really cool um okay so did you have anything then
that you'd wear now apart from Nirvana t-shirts probably just like I still wear my like skater shoes which
again are really impractical like in the weather because they've just got no tread on them so you
just sort of like walking all the time no I don't think there is actually like I said apart from
like Nirvana t-shirts and just like my grungy trousers, nothing.
Because again, at 14, I was still trying to find myself a little bit.
And like, this isn't like a therapy session.
I was still trying to find myself.
This time when I was 12, no, I was like, I was still trying to find myself.
So I didn't really, I was trying to fit in because we were sort of middle of the range friends. I tried like the denim jacket and like a t-shirt underneath, like the girl band thing.
But then I also did the grungy thing and yeah.
So your first crush was Heath Ledger. we're gonna be talking now first snogs you don't have to say the name
but of course if you want to I'd love it I want to know I want to know what your first snog was
and was it nice or was it terrible yeah my first snog was a was a boy and it was at this like school disco and it was bloody awful
really because like no one knew anything other than what you read in more magazine so it was
just really like i'm not going to do like any motions or movements but it was awful like you
were at a disco and you're slow dancing and you're literally like yeah holding on like that i don't
know if you're going to have the camera on but you're gonna have your arms around their neck like a foot apart and you have this little like during like um spice girls oh
what's the song from their movie the other one the other one when they promoted the movie um
too much yes yes yes yeah you got it that one yeah and it all sort of at the moment got in a bit it's
bloody terrible but i thought at the time it was great because like none of my friends are sort of doing that and then and that
was it really it wasn't yeah i didn't really do much snogging after that until i then like i
didn't really do boys no so you kind of like we're like i've done the kiss so now like that little
bit is over and done with and because more magazine and all them magazines they were like
showing us position of the week and we were like we haven't even what are you doing yeah I know that is mad
when you think about it yeah are you showing us a position of the week or the month or whatever
the heck it was no thank you very much and your problem pages were like always like what yeah I've
got this rash and just like what and how to get rid of this and like oh yeah you look at it now it just you would have been so problematic
just like the diet culture the beauty like how to get rid of this at 14 get rid of blemishes even
though you're going through puberty and just yeah the diet culture was was was truly terrifying I've
had a um a fashion stylist on who like does body positivity now
and it was we were talking about how even now I'm 46 I'm rational person still at the back of mind
sometimes things pop to the front from back in there like little things you can't get rid of it's
it's almost it's just weird things like say if I had like a big lunch I don't know fish and chips
I'd be like well I have to have
a really tiny little sandwich like there's just little things that are just little rules in your
head you're like this doesn't just doesn't like if I was faced with one chocolate bar or like a
crunch well I'll have a crunchy because I read somewhere once that a crunchy was better than
having a bar yeah it's not and I still do it now I still do it now even though like you said with
the Christmas period confuses me because you're grazing and doing what your body actually wants
you to do is just graze little and often i don't know what day of the like day or time of the week
is i say time of the day is if i've had a big lunch i'll have like a cracker for dinner or i'll
just have a cracker for dinner and you know dinner and you know I've had toast for my breakfast
I can't really have a sandwich for lunch
because too many carbs
yeah it's mad isn't it
yeah it's gross
the rules
also with Christmas
they're like
you can graze it
and then it gets January 1st
you're like
now you need to not eat anything
and you've got to get fit
you're like what
what
why
exactly
it's like
you're talking about
why
new year new me
that is
I still saw some stuff this year
that was new year new me
and it's
you're in the same industry as me
did you
I got a lot I got a lot of emails about that I got a lot of direct messages
but I got one that I got one that would made you so mad and I didn't put it online because I thought
this man would be absolutely attacked and he was like hi it's always like I know you're a busy mum
I know you're a busy mum and I don't want to sound arrogant if soon as somebody says I don't
want to sound arrogant but um I could help you change your body and I'm really well known for
I'm like mates what are you talking about what did so I just thought don't don't screenshot it
in front of your stories I just was like just gently did not I did not reply it's just yeah
we get a couple of personal trainers I haven't had any men like have the audacity to come in our
inbox yet but a couple of personal trainers going hi if you're like some are quite subtle
hi if you're thinking of making some small changes this year hit me up and other people going i bet
you want to change yourself this year come and just like of course it's the busy mum that gets
me it's like the busy the busy mum yeah i like I am a busy mum but like you don't
no I'm all right with that no one's messaging Stephen you're a busy dad should we sort you out
it's just so weird okay I want to know what your um biggest teenage success was um this is going
to sound really just sort of like um just but my GCSEs like that's good I know because everyone just thinks like achieving you know like
climbing Everest you know but like no my GCSEs because they were a real I had to work bloody
hard and you do have to work hard but I had to work really hard like maths English was my strongest
point but maths and science in that area was just not and I had to work bloody hard for that like I
just didn't stop and I still didn't think I'd be good enough because I just did.
I couldn't comprehend certain things. I just didn't understand why I couldn't comprehend certain things.
So a friend of mine who was crap at English came around and she was really good at science.
And she's like some fricking boffin for NASA now. She's like some physicist or something.
And so she we helped each other out and we were like every day after school school holidays working and I got like I got loads of I got a
star in English and a in math and a in um another one something else England yeah English language
yeah a star in English like literature a in English language and then like a in math and I was like
but yeah that was really hard because my school, again, being like the Ofsted's favourite school,
it was just disruptive, even like GCSE exams were disruptive.
Like it was a horrible time to be doing my GCSEs in a school like that.
But I did really bloody well. And it was just like, so, yeah, that was my proudest moment.
Were you really excited when you went to go and pick them up?
Yeah, I threw up a couple of times
and it was just I was just nervous because it was just like I thought what because I mean I didn't
really have many career aspirations I had no idea what I was going to fucking do but I knew I needed
this because this was my only ticket I didn't have any you know I wasn't didn't think I'd go to I
didn't go to university but I didn't think I'd have any you know university prospects we had no
wealth or anything like that so I was like I've got to get these GCSEs I've got a job I've got a good job um and things like that so I threw up a couple of
times and I thought well I still thought no no don't don't put too much hope into it opening it
and I was like just like open the envelope and I was just like oh my god I was shocked absolutely
shocked even though I put in so much work I just still didn't think it would be possible because
it's really bloody hard I don't do hard things so it's just like yeah oh but the teachers were so happy yeah they were crying
because again they believed in me but they they leave it everyone and that's not to say they lie
but they believe in everyone but they know the kids who probably wouldn't do it and I think they
weren't sure about me because I was just all over the shop all the time um and they just didn't know
how I would do oh so they would cry and whoever was crying and
just yeah it was a nice time that's nice I think when you when you were younger because when I was
younger like parents didn't come with us to get GCSE results or anything you just used to bop up
open them in front of your friends and then go home for your tea but now it seems to be a bit more of a
of a community sort of day out yeah it's kind of nice isn't it like I just I think I just
went to pay phone I was like I got to see you know because you couldn't even text him or anything
and mum was like okay she's at work okay what's the C because my mum was just like what's that
because she did like the um oh god what did my mum do O levels O levels she said what's that like
just yeah but no she was well chuffed I think my mum do? O-levels. O-levels. She said, what's that? Like, just, yeah, but no, she was well-traveled.
I think my mum was the same.
She obviously said, go with your friends, you know,
come back when you're ready and stuff.
Yeah, family but work, yeah.
Yeah, here's some money to go do whatever.
But, yeah, then I went home.
But, yeah, nowadays, like I said, same with things like graduation and prom.
Like, it's a massive thing now.
And parents go and there's, like, a big old event and, yeah.
It's kind of nice, isn't it?
Yeah.
My daughter's doing things.
She's doing things now. GCSEs are not abs and c's anymore they're like numbers and i don't understand them i don't understand the numbers no i'll tell me a number and i can i just look by if
she's smiling or not smiling and then like oh that's good well done so i am basically your mom
i'm like well done well done are you pleased with that you're like so and so got a five and i'll be
like and that is what yeah what does that mean out of what darling yeah no i know i'll be like
i don't even get follies when thomas was at school oh follies are terrible they're so scary okay what
was your biggest teenage flop what you do you have a bit of regrets about oh boys no like I just didn't get
them like I'd laugh at them but then as soon as I tried to sort of fit in and do the thing that all
my friends are doing yeah I just didn't know I just didn't get it no and I just seem to have
always I thought I floated oddly towards the guys who are now gay so I just sort of like I don't
know if I turn them gay I'm not saying that but it's just like it's just a bit of a coincidence
it's not you, we've had,
I've had a few gay men on the podcast
and they always managed to find another boy
at the school who wasn't gay at the time,
but who is gay now.
It's like they all gravitated to each other.
So mate, it must be like a common thing.
Yeah.
And we didn't know anything about each other.
Like they, some of these boys were just like,
let's, let's, let's, and that's not to say like gay men aren't but they were sort of like yeah stereotypical boys yeah now some of them are definitely gay um which is very interesting
but yeah no boys were my biggest flop I just did and I probably spent too much time
trying like all my mates were but I should have actually just started drinking or so I don't know just done something else like just hang on no no no the moment of the story is not that yeah it's just
something else I didn't like boys so I should have started drinking like everyone else like I just
yeah I just didn't like yeah because obviously like I just yeah no no it's so do you think if
social media is more prevalent then do you think you would have been felt more comfortable being who you truly were going to be oh god that is I always think that because I the
first my immediacy is thank god social media didn't exist when I was a kid because like you
know even just aside from bullying just the pressure to perform and pressure to do all these
things would have been immense and I think it
probably would have properly like properly broken me and it was bad enough when your friends were
in like the most the newest Nikes or were had the best phone that was big enough pressure but then
to think you had you then had access to other kids in other schools showing off their Nikes
that would have been awful but then on top
of that if something were to happen and they'd start commenting and being horrible to you on
social media like that would have been horrible um but at the same time it would have probably
been quite beneficial for me to see other kids who are perhaps challenging or sort of talking
about their own identity and and you know connecting with celebrities who are a bit different so social media has its place it feels makes you feel less isolated um but at the same
time I think if I was in school I think it would have been an absolute bin fire I think it would
have been horrible and I think I just I don't know what I would have probably just asked my mum to
homeschool me or something because like I was a bit of a dickhead in school like not like a naughty
kid but I was just a bit of a my mouth like I just let my mouth run away with me and I
was just a bit of a weirdo. And imagine what you'd have been saying on social media as well if your
mouth was running away with you in school you'd have been diddly diddly and send a little tweet out
exactly just like yeah I would have been cancelled by 15 exactly just it was just by 15 exactly it
would have been horrible and it just yeah and just there was no control over there's
no control over I mean it's bad enough when you had then had things like Bebo and Facebook and
it started but then by then I was sort of second uh god Bebo and things like that and I would have
it was a bit diff later on but even then that was bad enough when you're in college and then there
was sort of Bebo and stuff but I sort of removed myself a little bit and got into other circles but
yeah I don't I can't imagine what people are going through now when social media you see
creators now don't you who you know you follow them and you think they're great and then it'll
come like a tweet will come up from like I don't know 14 years ago that they made when they were
and you're just like oh my gosh like and people do change but the internet is so this it's so it's so brutal isn't it yeah
and if you could go back in time what would you tell yourself then oh god i mean i'm gonna say
probably what other people have said is just be yourself like yeah that's the common thread just
please please don't try and conform like find try and find your people but if you don't find your people that's
okay as well find yourself find yourself first and just enjoy your life enjoy your childhood
um because you know even though i was like i'm not a kid at 14 you are a kid and just freaking
enjoy that freedom and that the opportunity to just take your time make your choices don't decide
what you want to do at 12 like just just fricking enjoy yourself and just be,
find yourself first and just try and not conform to try and fit in.
And like, it's easier said than done because it's incredibly hard to be on
your own. But yeah, just be yourself.
And please just don't worry about what other people,
like don't worry about what other people are saying, even about,
not even about you, but in general. Yeah. difficult isn't it because you know i've got teenager and
i could tell her that but you don't listen you would you would you'd just you you then would
have just gone oh no you know piss off yeah what are you talking about you know you're born old
yeah it's just so it is you've all we all have to get that's why i chose 14 because it's such a interesting time
of life where you're kind of not a kid but not an adult and you're just kind of stuck in this like
weird realm um but thanks so much for coming on the podcast thank you for having me i will leave
all your links below so people can go and find you and go and check you out and thanks so much
for listening to another episode of the phone box podcast guys I will be back next week and as I said
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See you later, Kate.
Thanks for coming on.
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