The Phonebox Podcast With Emma Conway - The NAF NAF World of 90s Fashion: Stevie B

Episode Date: January 29, 2024

If you ever dreamed of owning a NAF NAF jumper. Or wore a Spliffy top out with your bemused parents. Then this is The Phonebox Podcast episode for you! I'm joined by the amazing celebrity stylist to the stars the lovely Stevie B. We chat all things 90s fashion and the lack of body positivity back in the day.Go and follow Stevie B Style over on instagram here.For more of me follow @brummymummyof2 on Instagram, YouTube, Facebook and TikTok and follow the @phoneboxpodcast account on Instagram for polls and nostalgic fun.If you have any guest suggestions, topics you would like me to cover email [e-mail] and be sure to tag so I can see where you are listening!Editing by Soundtruism. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Instagram, BrummeetMummyof2 or the Phone Box Podcast where we are doing polls all the time. You sent over like a big list of polls and we're currently working our way through it so do go and check those out this series i'm going to try and do things a little bit different so i'm going to have like special what would you call it people with specialisms and we're doing one this week with a fashion specialist we've got the amazing your stevie b is it stevie b style on instagram it is yes stevie b style on instagram so stevie she's an absolutely amazing fashion stylist you recently done a course for plus and mid-size ladies haven't you or people i have yeah absolutely

and have you ever styled anybody that we would love to have met in the 90s oh um yes I've styled all saints they were pretty special in the 90s yeah yeah that that was cool Alex James from Blur no it was about three minutes before he was about to go on live television and I stained a white shirt and I had like minutes to go and I was a fan and my palms were sweating and somehow yeah a miracle and obviously stain remover I managed to sort it out there's so much I don't know how we're going to get through this because this 19 is my jam obviously yeah you were just like we did like a little pre-chat let's talk about boy bands a bit let's okay let's start from the beginning when were you 14 I was 14 in 1996 cracking year absolute cracking um I like to understand

what people like by knowing what was on their bedroom walls so what was your bedroom like here we go this is going to be embarrassing no no it's not well it is and it isn't okay so they'll basically I grew up I was named Stevie after Stevie Nicks from Fleetwood Mac. So my huge passion in life is kind of 70s rock and roll. So I like listening to bands like Pink Floyd and whilst having my room smothered in boy zone. And I don't just mean smothered. I don't know. There are no words ceiling duvet shrines hang on hang on duvet an actual duvet with boys own on i can see it now no no no so so it was an unhealthy obsession like

beyond who was your favorite even gately oh r.i.p ste Stephen Gately. R.I.P. He died on my birthday. Aha. And going back now, Stephen Gately, none of it really makes that much sense with who I am now. Because thinking now, if it was now, it would probably be Shane. Yeah. Like, kind of more my back. Anyway. So, yes, my walls, my room.

Like, if they toured at Wembley, I went to every night. I don't know how. My poor parents because it wasn't really my own like bits of it with my money but I I was obsessed every night you were there so Stephen Gately yeah I have a I have a theory that we were attracted to the kind of like effeminate younger looking boys when we were younger because they thought they couldn't they couldn't hurt us so like you Mark Owens you leonardo dicaprio and all that lot i like this yeah yeah yeah they were safe like they weren't gonna it's like you know not jay from five because he would have been a bit like scary for me oh i did like him though as well yeah i love them all there was in fact you know

how like now everyone goes mad for the jingle bell ball and capital ball and all of that so I used to go there was um smash hits concert pole winners pole winners party I went to one yes yeah okay so I went and and obviously mainly for boy zone but there was a joke around me all the people around me just laughed hysterically because any boy band that came out, I was screaming and losing. So it didn't matter who it was, really. 911, Backstreet Boys. Yeah, I just I just loved boy bands. Did you ever go a bit too far in loving them?

Like, did you go to any of their houses, round the back of concerts or to hotels? Yeah. Yeah, same, same. Oh, good. This is a blossoming start to a friendship yeah this is a safe space no yeah same same I think I bought Louis Walsh's phone number off of a fan like five pounds at the time that was like and I used to phone him to be like where where is everyone gonna be at what time so, I slept outside live and kicking.

My parents thought I was at a friend's. My friend's parents thought they were, you know. Yeah, it was full on. And I've got a funny complete 180 story that recently I was styling Alison Hammond on a show. And I found out the day before. It's actually making me go funny. The day before that Ronan was coming in the next episode, Ronan Keating. Oh my gosh.

So there's this, I just, honestly, I just lost it. So I told Alison the story about how intense I was, and, you know, I slept outside the hotel. I'll have to send you some kind of footage. Defo, defo. Honestly, and I've got Jimmy Carr in the background shouting get her off there's a stalker here like comedy gold for somebody that wasn't me I've never gone so red it was I was so embarrassed that he was gorgeous he was so lovely about it he was you know really sweet he's like yeah still gorgeous he is Ronan Keating yeah he is really

handsome handsome because some of the boy band members haven't grace you know grown old that But yeah. Still gorgeous. He is rolling. Yeah. He is really handsome, handsome. Cause some of the boy band members haven't grace, you know, grown old that gracefully, but he's gorgeous. Yeah. Yeah. He is gorgeous. I went to houses. I went and I lived in Birmingham. So we were kind of, I suppose,

a bit nearest like Manchester for take that. So we could go. But yeah, I met boys. The whole boy sound at clothes show live. Do you remember clothes show live? Such such a treat love the clothes show yeah and you go and buy your um what was the really popular hair stuff is it tiggy I can't remember what the brand I'd go and get like um hair stuff there oh I just absolutely loved it okay so where did you grow up in the country London where you based yeah just kind of out at Hertfordshire but yeah mainly kind of yeah always in and out of London and uh MTV studios were in Camden I was often there um whoever it was like Peter Andre just that whole 90s but also

listening to what's seen as really incredible music at the same time and I also loved the whole like oasis but i just loved it all okay oasis and blur whose side were you on oasis yeah we're yet to have one person who picked blur really not one and i've asked this question many many times no one's people and they won didn't they in the oasis v blur battle i don't understand i don't there's massive like my husband went to see them last year blur like completely loved it like what's that uh tender i it's actually really quite sweet i've never said this before i sing um that song to my kids every night to go to sleep yeah so like

yeah no but it has to oasis were like i mean there there are countries anthems like like nothing else i think blur are fantastic but yeah Oasis all the way yeah I'm going my husband never go he doesn't ever want to do anything I don't know what my marriage is like I drag him through life you're coming on holiday we're going here we're going there but he said to me the other day I'm gonna get us Liam Gallagher tickets and I was like what so he's bought us tickets to go and see Liam Gallagher. I'm not sure. I've only ever been to one other concert with him, which was Beyonce, and he was really drunk. So this is a new experience.

Oh, that'll be amazing. Yeah, I do think it'll be quite fun. So that'd be quite good. Okay, so we've tackled the music. So I presume your first crush was Stephen Gately. Was there any other crushes that you just loved? Or was it all boys? 90s crushes um I loved

3T do you remember them Michael Jackson's nephews of course I do yeah so I loved them saw them in concert a few times I just honestly like you mentioned before five um it was me and my best friend Stacey we were just obsessed with all boy bands and we always used to have if what someone chose one they chose choose the other yeah like so it was that way you couldn't you couldn't have the same boy band crush no I actually think she she chose Shane first I probably would have gone for Shane but I was like okay I'll have yeah I remember a very vicious feud between my friend Lindsay and her sister Claire over both liking Mark Owen it was she was like Lindsay was like no I'm the biggest sister like ripping the posters off like no I'm the biggest sister like ripping the

posters off like no that's the one I'm gonna like and you'd always call I'd be like Emma Barlow because I like Gary Emma Barlow and she'd be like Lindsay Owen did you have loads of pen pals as well yes loved a pen pal oh it's so nice I miss those days don't you I really do so you're known for your fashion what kind of fashion were you rocking then? FanDuel Casino Daily Jackpots. Guaranteed to hit by 11pm with your chance at the number one feeling, winning. Which beats even the 27th best feeling,

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Oh, gosh. So being like, I think I was, I'm quite passionate about talking about sort of mid and plus size women and how it's so important to me that women and girls of any size should be able to dress however they want. But the options definitely weren't there when I was a teenager. So I know Morgan was a really high fancy price point, but like we were all obsessed with Morgan. We had like the record bags and um you know record bags yeah yeah and kukai as well kukai as well but it was a question at my so I think I was about 14 or 16 and it was whatever I could squeeze into so I had to express myself in other ways like with shoes and rings and fun lipsticks which hasn't changed fun lipsticks from um Miss Selfridge

remember the makeup at myself yeah absolute classic yeah there was one called moon breaker that was like silver glittery and i just loved that um i remember going uh dulce's shoes they sold palladium um they had like a little heel and they kept you could get baby pink and baby blue ones. I bought one of each and for one sort of party thing, I wore one pink and one blue. Yeah. That's probably my biggest sort of fashion faux pas. Do you know what?

I think that sounds all right. Good. In the ones that we've had. Miss Selfie should have cracking makeup. Didn't they? They had like good nail varnishes and, cause it wasn't like now where you could go in anywhere and buy makeup boots had nothing but yes self-adjust is brilliant I once went for a job I can't remember if it was Morgan or Kukai and you had to put a photo of

yourself on the application form I never heard back from them I was like I mean we laugh but that is yeah the stuff we put yeah not. Not cool at all, is it? So with fashion now, my daughter, who's 13, she wants Stussy. She wants Juicy Couture. She wants, do you remember the combats with like a dragon up? Why is this all coming back? It just, unfortunately, it's one of my kind of I've got to say that I think it needs to be a certain amount of time away for a trend to come back it's just bizarre like I've

started my daughter's 10 she turns 11 in a couple of weeks and we've started watching friends together and she's like oh I love that dress oh I love that top and I said to her does this look dated to you and she's like no not at all yeah and that's just so bizarre because when you know if we would have like five years ago started watching friends or or old movies from the 90s like oh it looks so dated this is oh look how funny it is what they're wearing but it really has come back full circle like you know with the slightly baggier jeans and baggy jacket it's just it's weird it doesn't look dated she's right in friends it's not dated no with Jennifer An't look dated she's right in friends it's not dated no with jennifer anderson if she's wearing like a tight white t-shirt and like

um loafers and stuff it is just like bang on trend at the moment isn't it where there's when we were in the 90s if i'm trying to think if we were in the 90s and we look back at the 60s hang on how old is friends his friends 30s started yeah I think it is so if we were in it would we look to would we have looked back at the 60s and oh my gosh that doesn't even I would have thought that was really old but I suppose no I know it's just I wonder do you think maybe TikTok has helped stuff like that kind of come back I do think a lot of social media um yeah because you're seeing it more. Like for us, we used to like, you know, get our weekly magazine or bi-weekly magazine.

And what was it? You know, get smash hits, Just 17. Yeah, Mears as well. All those kind of things. Yeah. And like, you know, you only see things so often. But I suppose if we're constantly scrolling and on our phones and it kind of a trend digests quicker and becomes more mainstream, I suppose. It's just also so expensive when I go into it's all urban outfit is when I go in with her and she's like, pick it. I'm like, oh, my, I'm not paying sixty five pounds for a pair of combats. That would have been seven pounds from CNA in the 90s. So true. And what you mentioned before, Stussy, my husband's loved it ever since.

It was like he never you know he now happens to be on trend he's got an obsession and then our little boy is like oh can I get a Stussy jumper and we're like absolutely not like he said I could afford my first one when I was 30 yeah you need to hang on um do you remember NAFCO 54 and NAFNAF yes yeah bring that back is that coming I'm sure Erin will want that one day she'll be like oh I'm sure you heard of this brand called naff naff and I'll be like oh it was so good at the time and then there was another one that was slightly cheaper ton saton do you remember that rings about also spliffy do you remember that oh my god that was like if you had a spliffy record bag or

spliffy on the back of your jacket as if that should have been allowed in school if I even knew what it was I had no clue what spliffy meant but I wanted all of the the clothes so when we're talking about um social media do you think it's better now for fashion than it was back in the 90s with regards to like body shape oh definitely yeah there's definitely a real improvement of representation curvier models brands are doing better by opening up their sizes however as somebody that like for my work I've you know shopped all my life I've still yet to find it going into a shopping centre to be a friendly place to be for mid and plus size women. And that really bothers me. It's not OK. It's I was invited to an event on sometimes you get invited to events, you know, like last minute.

And I was invited to an event on like a Saturday morning or whatever. And it was like on the Monday and Stephen was like, well, we'll just go into town. And I'm like, as a size 18, I can't just like go into town and buy a nice dress I've got to go on ASOS I've got to go on Simply B I've got to wait for it to be delivered I can't just pop pop really anywhere and get a really really nice dress yeah unless you try and like if you go shopping it's a miserable experience and you're trying on to squeeze into a 16 so I'm the same I say dress size I could be like a 14 16 trousers I'm a definite 18 and the limitation is unbelievable I remember going into Levi's a couple of years ago and there was not one thing in the store and it kind of it's just

not great for for women's confidence it really drives me mad I'm lucky that I know where to shop and like you say you know yourself where you can go online but it's not okay that you can't go shopping and in the same way that I felt as a teenager that oh I'll just buy a handbag or an accessory that that's not fair it's not fair and stupidly the average size of a UK woman is a size 16 so what's going on I also find with an 18 they they're always sold out because loads of people are 18 and they buy them straight away. So you're like clicking through, you're like all of this. Oh, no, it's not. You know, it's not got my size. Yeah. And occasionally you'll get a yours on the high street.

But again, that's just one one place. And yours serves a purpose. It does really well. It has some nice bits. But for people that want to be more kind of trend-led it there's there's nothing there there's a huge gap in the market um so yeah I think social media has done wonders I love seeing bodies like mine on there but I think more needs to be done for in real life yeah yeah because I mean a bit has changed in the 90s but it it has taken us, you know, like 30 years to get to this. The 90s weren't body positive at all. With heroin chic and stuff, it was terrible, wasn't it?

I just, I think I was such a shy and insecure teenager. I had great, like when you said how old was I when I was 14, like what year was it when I was 14? And, you know, 1996 and 97, Spice Girls, all that stuff. So much makes me smile the top of the I used to wait outside for the pops all of it great loved it loved it so so much but the slightly larger girl in me was just a bit lost in a bit but you didn't really speak up about these kind of things it was just like you know the majority of my friends were size 8 and 10 and they could shop anywhere and it just was quite isolating yeah

especially looking at those magazines with no one you didn't see any bodies that that represented me um and I would have just felt so much better if I did you also had a weird trope of people being called fat who weren't fat so you had yes yeah we Hallowell she's massive I mean she literally is not she wasn't yeah at all yeah yeah yeah yeah all of that all of that and it makes you question yourself it's like oh if you think Jerry Halliwell's about them what do you think I am like and also like it's not a bad thing um to to have weight and to have curves and anyway I'm very passionate about it we're doing so much better I wish there would have been more in the 90s for sure yeah we are we are doing a bit better I am love Bridget Jones but when you read that now

and every diary entry is nine stone I'm so like it's like oh my gosh that's like so many stones lighter than I am now and at the time I remember I used to do sit-ups, 100 sit-ups every night. I'd just eat soup because I was quite much slimmer then. I'd just have soup. I'd be doing sit-ups. I wouldn't be really eating proper. I just wouldn't be eating proper meals. I'd be doing exercise videos after exercise videos every night. It was just, it was torturous.

It wasn't just you. It was so many of us. I reckon loads of people listening and nodding. I hope whoever is, you you know no longer does that if they're still in that there's so many people that are still in that mindset you know Christmas has just been it's January like you know gotta punish our bodies to lose weight I just I'm about it was only about four or five years ago that I found freedom with quitting diet culture is the best thing that's ever ever happened to me I just that's why I'm so passionate on my Instagram I would just love it for more and more women and it's not our fault for you know

being young and a teenager in the 90s was not easy no and it's I think it's put some seeds in the back of our head and and even now sometimes I think things and I have to like go no no no it's I think it's put some seeds in the back of our head and and even now sometimes I think things and I have to like go no no no that's like not that's like the conditioning from all those years it's not yeah it's not actually what you think now but the odd little thought will just go like yeah so hopefully our children will be more accepting because they're grown up in a completely different world yeah but what did you wear back in the 90s that you would like to wear now I loved my Calvin Klein jumpers like I had ck1 and also do you remember ck1 perfume oh yeah there was a little bottle that came with a string and I used to wear around my neck I thought I was so cool yeah I remember my Calvin Klein and I think they resell

them now in Urban Outfitters of course they do for 90 quid yeah I'm like no Klein and I think they resell them now in Urban Outfitters. Of course they do for 90 quid. Yeah. I'm like, no, thank you. I didn't love it that much, but I probably did. But I used to love that kind of, and we used to wear them with denim shirts underneath and a pair of leggings. And I used to just think I was so cool. What did I like? I used to wear dungarees. I love dungarees. I still wear them now, but it just doesn't feel quite as exciting as it did in the nineties.

Like an A-line skirt with a little matching to oh do you remember like the slogan t-shirts I mean they do them now but not with the same sayings I think we wore some like that said too hot to handle and you were like 15 what else there was some other like 100 babe and attitude and all these kind of funny sayings. Mark Owen had that. Do you remember Mark Owen had a little top, little crop top and it said body powder. And if you read the slogan, that is 100% about A-class drugs.

Like it's not. And he's like on top of the pops. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my God. So naive. So naive. Yeah, I really remember that. I did love Take That as well I think Take That was my first sort of boy band concert I just yeah they were amazing they were amazing I loved Robbie yeah Robbie did you like Robbie when he left or were you annoyed that he

left I was annoyed I remember crying and I was still a massive boy but like I said honestly just to give you an idea I literally loved everyone how many times you reckon you saw a boy's home at least 15 and what was your favorite song I don't even want to think about I think I've got a bit of resentment to be honest I want my money back why because because now I really appreciate really good music I'm really sorry boys though but um I don't I don't think their music was very good I like father and son but that wasn't boyzone was it that was like a copy and I just oh what was the one um to a different beat that was quite good I don't think I know that

one oh yeah I can't I haven't remembered I haven't spoken about this in so long I think because I really love credible music I just I can just see I think I prefer Backstreet Boys songs to be honest they were really good Backstreet Boys were absolutely and they're still classics I'd go and see them on concert in concert now they did concert last year did a bit of an income to her and go so I'm not willing to travel I traveled for Madonna I'm not willing to travel to Backstreet I went to the opening night yeah do you know what

we went to the opening night so it was very intense there was a lot of super hardcore fans and they weren't very nice about it online but this woman is nearly 70 she can sure she doesn't dance like she did when she was flipping 25 um and what they did

what she did was there was the lens of the camera may have had a bit of like of a filter on maybe and because we were quite far back she looked just amazing and you know Madonna is just she's Madonna isn't she to me she's like the ultimate I agree I agree it's somebody as well that dresses a bit like a misfit and you know I just yeah I'm in awe of her I would have loved to have gone outfits I've heard it was like from a real Madonna fan it was sensational yeah we did we did make we we both cried because you know when you went you know with my sister we'd be like dancing around the room listening to Madonna and stuff so it was just like it was it was brilliant um and I hope I get to see her again but you don't know do you with tours like this you kind of think oh this might be like the one last and I never got

to see her when she was really young I saw her on other tours but not when she was at her I would have loved to have gone to the Blonde Ambition tour oh wow that would have been like the best wouldn't it so did you um like any girl bands as well or was it just the boys oh no I loved I loved the girl bands I particularly Spice Girls were just phenomenal like we always used to do for like our school like singing like performing we always used to pick a different Spice I was always Sporty which I got the needle about I don't know why sorry Sporty who I've actually worked with since and she's a lovely human and now probably I would want to be sporty but at the time I was kind of like oh I want to be like a Jerry or but no I loved them I love what they represented I just yeah I think they're amazing it was great was it what was your um

biggest kind of um failure as a teenager what do you look back and go oh and have a bit of a cringe I hardly went to school oh like yeah I I um I always used to sort of fake like not being very well and I just school wasn't for me at all like I was a creative in quite an academic school so now knowing that as an adult but I think I I think I could have done really well and I didn't I kind of do you wish you'd gone back and done a bit better yeah I think so I think that's like kind of my one but then I'd still always well I always said I wanted to be a fashion designer but fashion stylist is pretty similar and I'm so happy with you know my career and where I am with work I don't think anything would be different but I just know I could have like I loved the social aspect of school but learning not just wasn't for you what was your

biggest kind of the best thing you did as a teenager you look back and go you know what I smashed that I think oh it's gonna make me a bit emotional I think forming my girls friendships that at school I just so lucky that I'm still best friends with like there's a group of 10 of 11 of us and we've been best friends since we were 11 so I think like the fun and the mischief and the stories and everything we kind of got up to from you know our first cigarettes behind the bike shed kind of vibe to sleep getting caught sleeping outside the television center and yeah just you know naughty things drinking in the park and have you seen um mad fat diary no no i need to watch is it good my goodness you as somebody that loves the 90s i have to watch it it's got so many

things in it but looking back at that it's kind of how it felt that life was yeah please do and let me know when you do it is stunning oh I'll have to watch it I think there's just something the stuff that I got up to in the 90s if my you know 40 she's gonna be 14 this year did it I would die but like it was so much fun 100 but there's part of me I get what you're saying but there's part of me as well it's like go on then yeah if we did it our parents did it was all very do you know what I think's different about this generation is that our stuff was so quiet and secretive and hush hush and now I'd like to think that our kids talk to us more about the bigger stuff it's a bit more open

yeah yeah and also I am very inclined if my daughter wants to go to a concert I'm happy to go along with her like there's still that little bit of like groupie in me so I go and see Harry Styles and we're going to go and see Taylor Swift so I still like to do that yeah no I think I'm the same I we I took my daughter last summer to Harry Styles which was pretty interesting did you love it do you know what he's gorgeous he's gorgeous but he's just this is gonna sound really old now he's such a good man like so good like a pregnant woman some water like his own water bottle and like shops for someone to are you okay like kept checking on people and just like a really kind human the only thing I will say that I was livid about

what so he'd done like two songs and I've gone to tap my daughter's like he's gonna change he's gonna go and outfit change can't wait can't wait nothing he didn't change one he didn't he didn't change but we were very lucky in Coventry he um this is real Harry Styles it's a good concert when he has no top on and he had no top on you see I think they call him I could be wrong do they they don't call him his titties they're calling him his hitties maybe had his nips out so he came on and I was like Erin nips out and we were like brilliant so I didn't want an outfit change I was quite happy and I think he's got that real sweet spot the mom's

fancy him yeah kids fancy him we're all in this together it's great yeah I think he's got that real sweet spot the mom's fancy him yeah kids fancy him we're all in this together it's great yeah I do I agree with that I agree but I was just shocked I kept looking I suppose from my point of view but I think people are so obsessed with him that you're right he didn't need to change but because like that wasn't it for me it was more like I want to see these incredible outfits oh because when we'd go and see a concert you'd have like a full plot they'd be like they'd be like take that on the run from from the police for some reason they were always on the run weren't they but like why I don't know what have they done okay if you could go back to Stevie then and say something to her what would

you say that's a really powerful question I would would say everything's going to turn out exactly how you want it. Try and take up a bit more space exactly how you are, like be confident. I'd like to sort of wave a little wand over teenage Stevie and say, you've got this. It's all good. Like be you. I was definitely I was very hunched. I was I tried to make myself smaller. I had like a fringe that I hid my face and I just I would have like you know just just be you stat stand stand tall shoulders back shoulders back kind of thing yeah are you glad you grew up then or or do you wish you were growing up now oh my gosh am I glad I grew up then do you feel the same yeah 100 oh my god social media i mean we had those um what they call

disposable cameras i used to dread the pictures coming out then oh god i was telling my kids about one um i went on a girl's holiday when i was 18 and we invited some boys back as you did just like random boys that took photos whatever we developed the photos in new key and they'd taken photos of our toothbrushes at their bumholes we didn't know because obviously it wasn't on our phone so we could see it it was just on a camera i've frozen in shock everyone sorry i forget you can't see me i don't know what to say so they were like smiling like no no, no, no, no, no. Oh, I love that you're laughing. I can't, I can't.

Would you have to remove all your teeth? Possibly, quite possibly. Or like instead of gargle with like mouthwash, like pour it down. Just bleach your whole mouth. Yeah, yeah. It was, it was a wild, it was wild times. I do, I do like the aspect that people can find their tribe a bit more now. And we would have seen more positive role models,

but I am glad I grew up there. Oh, I think it was the best of times. It really was. I had one of those Motorola flip. I was quite spoiled. I'm an only child. No one ever phoned me on it, obviously. We didn't have text messages or anything. So I used to just pretend to sit on the phone with this flip and think I was the coolest thing.

Oh, and not a great 90s story. My friends and I were obsessed with another level. Do you remember another level? Of course we do, Dane Bowers. I mean, we were obsessed with everyone. And we tried to get into like some kind of after party. And we obviously completely looked 15. And again, we were quite eccentric actually like glasses on our head loads of makeup you know the the twists back with the butterfly clip

must have looked hilarious and we tried to walk in and we're like oh our names stevie and we should be a empire record we pretended to be from empire records which was a movie that we were from this record company these people honestly and we both had our phones and like trying to flip the stuff we did. Were they just like, go? Yeah, like bye. They were like, not today, love. Not today. It was just, oh, it was such a happy time.

Where can my followers find you, the listeners find you? I'm on Instagram as at Stevie B style um also on TikTok as at Stevie B style and I just love to kind of well particularly in the summer dance around in swimwear and bikinis and sort of um hopefully help women to find some confidence in exactly how their body is which is exactly what I want to see on my Instagram that's what I that's what I want to see so definitely go have you got any more courses coming up in the near future yeah there's plans um I think I'm being called to do like a workshop for pre-teens and teens yeah for confidence and similar to what we've spoken about today so that

our kids generation don't feel how we felt and just the idea of not there's a lot of cloning going around and I know we did it and there's some kind of I suppose like a psychiatrist will say it's like a safety kind of thing but like if one person has a hoodie they want the same hoodie and I just I'd like people to feel uh kids to feel safe to be different and embrace the differences oh that sounds brilliant yeah so I will leave all your um you know your deets in the description box so definitely go and follow Stevie thanks so much for coming on this week's oh thank you for having me I've loved it I'd love to honestly the nostalgia no wonder you do it I was just every week I just absolutely love it and

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