The Phonebox Podcast With Emma Conway - Vickie Neave: Blue Eyeshadow, Perms & Fancying Wham

Episode Date: July 31, 2023

Who rocked blue eyeshadow, had posters of Wham and longed to be in A-ha's 'Take On Me' video? Vickie Neave aka Inpolife that's who! She joins The Phonebox Podcast to chat all things pop, the joys of a good perm and sings some classic Whitney.Be sure to follow Vickie over on instagram here.For more of me follow @brummymummyof2 on Instagram, YouTube, Facebook and TikTok and follow the all new @phoneboxpodcast account on InstagramIf you have any guest suggestions or topics you would like me to cover email [e-mail] and be sure to tag so I can see where you are listening!Editing by Soundtruism. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

With the Fizz loyalty program, you get rewarded just for having a mobile plan. You know, for texting and stuff. And if you're not getting rewards like extra data and dollars off with your mobile plan, you're not with Fizz. Switch today. Conditions apply. Details at fizz.ca. Hello and welcome to another episode of the phone box podcast with me emma conway how the devil are you i'm sat in my room i've got tights on it's freezing outside i'm recording this july it's july it's unacceptable today we have a fantastic guest she's over on instagram she's calledolife, but her name is Vicky Neve. I met up with her a couple of months ago, I think, and loads of my followers were like,

oh my gosh, I love her. So I think you're going to really enjoy this episode. We talk about all sorts of stuff. We talk about Wham. Vicky in the podcast mentions the Wham documentary. You've got to watch it. You've got to watch it. You've got to watch it on Netflix. You are going to love it. It's so positive. I left the documentary thinking, oh no, I wish they hadn't split up. And they'd split up like nearly 40 years ago. I was really sad about it. So that's really good. Also in this episode, I talk about getting Taylor Swift tickets. Happy to report,, I talk about getting Taylor Swift tickets. Happy to report, I did in fact get Taylor Swift tickets. So me and my daughter will be going to go and see Tay-Tay next year in Liverpool.

So I hope you enjoy this episode. I will meet you at the end for a chat. Hello, Vicky, and welcome to the Phone Box Podcast. I'm so excited to be here. And a bit petrified. Why are you petrified? I'm only here to be here. I'm a bit petrified. Why are you petrified? I'm only here because it's you. Would you be here if it was David Beckham? No.

It'd probably be worse. I'd be more, no. Okay, so just me then. Okay, well, I did try to gaslight you that your age was wrong. Can you tell me when you were 14? I was 14 in 1989. But the sad thing is, the second you went, I was like, oh, maybe not. It's because I thought you were younger.

I thought you were younger. Oh, that's all right. It's that way. It's a compliment. Where did you grow up? Where were you growing up when you were 14? Just all around here, Hertford, in a place called Bengio. Oh, Bengio.

It sounds a bit Italian. No, Benjo. Oh, Benjai. I was like, Benjo. Okay, is it nice No, Benjo. Oh, Benjo. I was like, Benjo. Okay, is it nice around there? It's lovely. We've got fields that way, and then we've got the town that way. We've got two train stations into London.

How far away from London is it? 50 minutes by train. But honestly, it could be, we don't have fast trains. They stop at every place. Every single one, yeah. Yeah. That's all right. Does it have a prime mark?

No, we don't. Do you have a new look? I'd like to know if I've got a little bit of a shopping option. There's nothing. A Poundlands. We've got Matalan. There you go. You had a TK Maxx recently.

I saw a Home Sense or something. That's about 20 minutes. Oh, right. We've got places to go. We can drive to. But we've got lovely sort of, there's nice independence coming back now after, you know, COVID happened and the whole town seemed to disappear. Okay, when you were 14, what was your bedroom like? So when I was 14, we'd just moved to our big house around the corner

in a road called The Drive. Oh, nice. The Avenue, The Drive. to our big house around the corner yeah in a road called the drive everything very the avenue the drive um so we were in the drive and um it was a complete renovation thing that we had so we moved in when I was 12 my parents took me there and we all cried because outside toilet you know wallpaper was hanging off the wall there was no central heating and we moved in like that and i was like why he make go from a lovely little house to that house oh my gosh the man's come to do my hedge is that a euphemism we've asked for my bush to be done i can't tell you how long oh no my man's coming to do me head hold on let me just shut two windows go on then sorry hello it's all right um now is your bush trimmed now it's such

a bushy bush i can't get my leg up hold on right so what was your bedroom like i want to know if you have any posters i got to pick what my bedroom was going to look like. I had grown up with my parents' 70s dream, brown and dark purple, for a kid's bedroom. I used to have a really bad nightmare. It was all about interiors. Okay. And so I had, when you say this now, when I say to the kids,

this was my bedroom, they're like, so it was a light grey wallpaper, but it had a confetti pattern, you know, like a little. That's a bit Mrs. Hinch. It was trying to be neon, but obviously it couldn't do that. I can see it. Little flicks of yellow and turquoise and pink. That sounds very 80s and a little that sounds nice it was i thought it was nice and the cheapest carpet known to man um that i actually said to

my mum recently you may as well just left floorboard it was so it was rock hard there was no comfort there she was like we were thinking practically i was like what did you think i was going to do in there what would you be doing would you have posters will you allow posters on the new wallpaper i was allowed posters i had a wardrobe um under a bed you know the platform bed so i had a little wardrobe under the bed i would have killed for that bed that sounds like blossoms bedroom or something i would have killed for that bedroom do That sounds like Blossom's bedroom or something. I would have killed for that bedroom. Do you know what? You're probably better off without it because heat rises. So when you've

just got that little bit between you and the ceiling, you're basically in a furnace. So I had posters on my wardrobe of George. George? George who? George George. George? George who? George Michael.

I thought, George Best? What? George? I was just thinking George, George. George Gallagher. I had the posters of George, you know, George Michael days because obviously it was so early.

I was watching the documentary the other day, which is incredible. Have you watched it? Yeah, I need to watch it it's amazing I thought it was going to be really sad it's really amazing it's so joyous

but I suddenly realised that I was really young when Wham actually did their but I loved Wham yeah they were great I remember going to their concert I was like 6, 7, yeah george i thought you meant george galloway no not george or george bush or george clooney or george no george clooney before er wasn't it that was 90s wasn't it yeah yeah yeah er was good though

wasn't it there was that and 30 somethingsomethings. Do you remember the programme 30-somethings? No. Yeah, I feel like it had like a crossover cast. Anyway, so you had George. George, yeah, he was there. But I also had Morton. That man is beautiful and he's still beautiful now. I mean, I think he ruined my life for me because that is...

But I also do believe that is but I also do believe that is why I was drawn to Mr. Impone because of the chiseled jaw. Like, he's just a crisp Mr. Impone, lovely, let's put him aside. We love him, we love him, we love him, but we're putting him aside.

He's just crisp and beautiful and it was my first ever single. You're probably going to ask me that But that was my first I bought it at Roy's of Roxham The ultimate shopping experience He was so good Do you know what he's

Morten has not cropped up on the podcast before And I am disgusted in myself I mean that is a miss of me Let's pretend we're in the car. No, we need to do the bit. This is not good for a podcast. But you know, he's trying to get out a cartoon. He's like, boom, boom, boom, boom.

Oh my God, I wanted to. No video has ever beaten that ever. It will never beat it. It was iconic. And the trouble is I shunned it too because there was a filter that came on to TikTok and I was like that's right this is because of our heart and I showed them and the kids were like this isn't revolutionary mum I don't like that no it what then it was like he's in a newspaper

cartoon and now he's what maybe this could happen to me and she had like a cute bob with like a little fringe it was a little wavy oh yeah i mean basically me right if i you know basically if morton walked in now he'd think he was back in that newspaper trying to smash out but i don't like to look up people from the 80s because i i refuse to admit that i am that old when I look at them. Morton's all right. I think Morton and Mags have done all right. I don't think I've researched Pal recently, but I'm sure they're all right, you know. Okay, so you had Morton, you had George.

Anybody else? Or are they your two main guys? No, I think it was mostly Morton with a bit of George. What about Matt Goss? Know what? No. He never did anything for me. I know.

I loved Bross. It was actually my first concert. Yeah, mine too. But I told my mum I was having a sleepover at Justine's house, of which I did. I did sleep over at Justine's house. We just happened to go to Wembley back. I was 14. I don't think i'd even got the train at that time like and i was like yeah i can do this yeah i'm going to see matt and gosh

the heavy noise of the stomping with the bottle tubs i just remember the noise of the feet just oh it's dreamy i'd never The only thing that got close to that when I've taken the kids to concerts was One Direction. That noise is off the scale. Yeah. You may as well not see. We can't hear you.

Just screaming. Screaming. Oh, my mum took me to see Bross. It was just such a happy day. I was talking about, I'm trying to get Taylor Swift tickets. Are you trying to get Taylor Swift tickets? No, there is currently a...

Oh, that's what she got pre-sale. Having a breakdown in the other room. She's been chucked out of the place and it's all getting very stressful. It's too much. It's like the Hunger Games. I was saying in the olden days, my mum, to get a Bross ticket, she just phoned up and was like... But Nat, could you imagine like phoning up to try and get a ticket

i know and in the documentary for wham they showed them queuing like people going to wimbley and queuing i mean it would go around the world it would go around the world i don't think look i'm manifesting against them by the time this podcast comes out we'll know we'll know if i've got some or not. But at this moment, manifesting. Oh, it's just so sad. And the trouble is she's looking at her phone and there's some people so happy because they've got tickets. And she really likes them.

And then she's like, oh. Look, I had the same with this year with Harry Styles. I managed to get them. Madonna managed to get them. Eurovision was a truly sad day. But I managed to get them. Madonna, managed to get them. Eurovision was a truly sad day, but I managed to get them in the end. So I'm going to manifest. I'm going to manifest me and my daughter there.

On the days Liberty hasn't got, when she didn't get Harry straight away, she got Harry in the end. She went three times, you know, four, I think, in total with last year as well. But, you know, at the think in total with last year as well but you know at the time it's heartbreaking but I don't think I've ever known a time like this Taylor to kit lark no this is bananas and my 12 year old wants to go I'm manifesting we're going and she's going to get there and uh mama

June is going to pick her in to get the 22 you've got to go with the massive sites because she does i've never seen her work the room we went to the red tour and i tell you what i was obsessed with her she goes around and she is mama jah she is erin's gonna be like picked out and then it's going to be a video of Erin getting the hat, but then it'll be like me like, and like screaming and I'll go viral for ruining it, ruining the moment. Or I'll, I'll accidentally,

I'll just like swipe the hat out of her hands. Could you imagine? Quick shove. Or you and June have a fight. Give her the hat. Give her the hat. She deserves that. June.

June. Anyway, we're getting distracted right now let's say listen okay so what kind of music were you into apart from bros and george michael so i loved lionel oh lovely so i feel like my parents really obviously massively influenced like at that age you are a a lot of Gloria Estefan yeah you know the rhythm is gonna get you my dad loves Shaka Khan Shaka Khan everybody everybody Shaka Khan everybody everybody Shaka Khan Shaka Khan everybody everybody Shaka Khan what aren't why are we not on Britain's Got Talent? Introducing Vicky and Emma with Shaka Khan. Shaka Khan, everybody.

Oh, don't. There was just so much good music. But do you know what? Looking back, when I saw the 80s, I was thinking, I didn't appreciate it back then. I appreciate it now off the charts. and it was delicious to go and buy music to go into a shop and buy me because now if I said swearing oh the newly brewed reggae song she's like just play it from her phone where there's we'd be like you've got to wait out in two weeks I've got

to wait for I'm going to get the seven inch with some sort of photo that goes in the front of it oh yeah I've got to get the plastic cover as well. You know, you've got to pay extra. Also, the play and record on the chart. Yeah. You know, and you'd sit there the entire time. Like, no, I don't like that song. Leave that. Snow Informer.

Yes. Boom. Like that. I don't know why that one always pops to my head. Snow Informer. Yes, please. And then the DJ would speak over the end of it. Oh, yeah.

And his room is, you've got to, I've got to, I've got to listen to this. Okay, so what kind of school did you go to and where were you in the hierarchy of the school? Right, so I was at an all-girls school, right? Same. Was particularly a fan of girls. Oh, okay. So that was a bit awkward.

But basically, I grew up as a gymnastast so I trained every single day of the week and the older girl that I got my lifts I can't believe my my parents right considering you know I went to visit all the secondary schools with all my kids and you have all these discussions I went to this school because the person I did gymnastics with they went there and it helped with the lift situation your mum's like easy job's a good um she's in so that's where I went um even though I didn't really like girls so I wasn't really in any of the groups but I knew them all I was on the outside yeah every single group and so it's a bit of a strange place to be because you're not an outcast no um and I could find someone to sit with every lunch or yeah like a floater kind of like it was like a float basically a float

floating around whoever floating around. Floating around. Anybody want to sit with me for lunch? I should think of myself more as a butterfly. Yeah, actually. I don't know why shit in the bath came later. Butterfly, butterfly, yeah. I was a butterfly floating around. But also, I was quite happy to be chilled on my own.

You know, I was a strange one. When you left girls' school, did you say you were 18 or 16? I stayed till I was 16 and then I went to college. You were like boys. Did you go to get boys then? No. Well, strangely, I had a boyfriend from when I was, before I was 15.

I met him. See, sport does this. So he was. Yeah. After gymnastics, I then then I had to retire from gymnastics because my knees kept dislocating beautiful I loved sports so then I tried athletics and there were beautiful boys there yeah so I went out with one for when I was just before I was 15 until I was 19. Oh lovely now. Now, was he your first kiss? Yeah, it was the first time.

Oh, what? So, was it a good first kiss or was it a bad first kiss? I'm interested. We've only ever had one good first kiss. No, it was a bit odd. It was in the cinema and I was really quite into the film. So, I was a bit like, why are you doing this? What film was it?

I can't even remember. That's the film. So I was a bit like, why are you doing this? What film was it? I can't even remember. That's the sad thing. I know, but I remember thinking, this is a really good bit of the film. So this is your first kiss experience. And I was like, for God's sake, get it over with. I'm trying to watch Indiana Jones or whatever the heck was on. It probably was something like that. But anyway, yeah.

No, it wasn't. We got better better but we were both learning yeah it sounds like it could be like a song we got better i think i got really good at it are you still are you facebook friends with him oh no no no did it end how did it end it's the weirdest thing so he went to university yeah did a whole year and then I went I drove up see him yeah um and uh seriously I do feel like my life is the Truman Show and I'm being filmed okay just could be one big joke yeah um so we you know I had waiting to see him, so excited, burst into his room. And he was like, oh, we need to wait now.

Now, he hadn't been waiting for quite some time. I was thinking that he found God. Oh, okay. And he wanted to get married. Oh, okay. And you didn't want to. No, so I lasted a couple of weeks. And you're like, do you know what i'm like you know it's

nice but no do you know what i think god over cheating on you that's what i'm gonna say yeah yeah yeah god over cheating on you it was quite a nice way to sort of you've got god and i want to go and shag other people good i don't think I've said the word shag in also about 30 years shag it's such a horrible word it's a bit Austin Powers isn't it okay so um that's nice I like that guard over other girlfriend right I want to know um fashion faux pas now you're a very stylish lady online i love your outfits what were you like back in the 90s bananarama have a lot to answer for because yeah hair was a thing um but we didn't go to a hairdresser we just had my mum's friend come round

oh lovely so she cut my hair same as my brother and uh so then to try and combat this and make it more trendy i did what nobody should ever ask for a perm with the fizz loyalty program you get rewarded just for having a mobile plan you know for texting and stuff and if you're not getting rewards like extra data and dollars off with your mobile plan, you're not with Fizz. Switch today. Conditions apply. Details at fizz.ca.

I too had a perm. No, it just, it just, I don't know if we can get... No, ladies and gentlemen of the podcast. I will send that to you. It's a short perm. Oh. I don't to you. It's a short perm. I don't think I've ever seen a short perm. No. I can see pictures in the

background. Well, this is a complete... It's not a lie. Oh my gosh. Morton at the top. Not real life Morton. This is a picture. Maybe my hair was actually styled on Morton's. I think your hair was styled on Mags. Mag is a picture. You're going to picture Morton. Maybe my hair was actually styled on Morton's. I think your hair was styled on Mags.

Mags's hair from, you were like, do you know what? Do you know what? My plan to pull Morton Harker is I am going to look like Mags from Aha. And then he's going to be like, oh my God, I found it. Do you know what? It's not bad. Did it take ages to grow out? Terrence Trent Darby is under there.

It's Trent Darby. Yeah. There's some small people. I'm going to have to get people with better vision than me. And then, I can't remember who that is. I'm going to have to zoom in.

Oh. Yeah, so that is, that is my wardrobe that's under the bed. Oh, I love it. You'll have to send me the picture. Did it take ages for your hair to grow out?

Because perms take, it seems, four years to grow out. perms take it seems four years to grow out it's a it was a long long time the trouble is i don't remember hating it oh god no i love my shaggy perm but you know i was basically a toilet brush that's it and this was it straight it was just a bowl just a very blonde it's very cute yeah so what's your fashion fact like your what would you wear now that you wore them well so i do love a tiered skirt and you know basically all of these beautiful super stylish that you see like you see like

needle and thread and that like all these beautiful things i just think yeah rah rah that's all it is isn't it it's just a posh rah rah skirt and i queued up at mick we had a stall in the town where we got all our clothes yeah it was a legend can you imagine my kids would be like you bought all your clothes on a market store? Yes. Yeah, I got mine from Wilton Market in Irvington. Yes, I was anyway. We did have a few, because obviously I was in a big city, so there were a few shops.

Did you not have a Tammy girl? No, not here. We'd have to go along. I'd have to go to Luton for that. You said that like you were going to Dubai or somewhere. Well, because my mum and dad go, should we go to Luton? And it would be a day out. A whole day out because we'd have a McDonald's as well.

Oh, lovely. When fries were like very cheap. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. Should have kept it. Because of sport, I lived in tracksuits, but then C&A, the stuff of of dreams they started to sell shell suits we all had a shell suit what was your colored shell suit oh turquoise i really loved turquoise

i still love turquoise but um yeah and then you know um yeah it's just it's just it was a vision it was so shiny so oh it was just brilliant um but mine was so posh Oh, it was just brilliant. But mine was so posh. It had like a cotton lining, which soaked up the sweat because obviously you did pour with sweat in the shelves. Oh, it was like you were wrapped in a burning inferno. So, yeah, so I was a bit cool, but I wasn't very, like non-uniform days, they filled me with dread because people, I didn't realise

like, you know, people would turn up and they'd suddenly they'd be in naff naff. And what was all the other stuff? There was naff naff. There was naff co 54, but I don't know if that was the rip off of naff naff. And then there was spliffy. Have I invented spliffy? No, that's like a car. Do you remember it was like a cartoon? Yeah. But naff naff, it was was so expensive just for a sweatshirt but yeah so i remember i turned up for some reason i thought that dungarees were still cool because they were quite cool but it turns out they weren't turns out i was wrong i was very wrong um anyway that was a bad day i like a dungaree now i think

your girls would wear a dungaree now i think your girls are both they both look great in shell suits as well yeah they were annoying i get really annoyed at kids now i get really annoyed because i'm like where are your crap photos erin's got no crap photos my erin just looks good but then do you know what we've maybe our parents thought we look great maybe my dad was looking at me with a shaggy I don't think so the shaggy laughing as soon as we went to bed yeah the state of that yeah there was me with I had like boots with wood in do you remember the boots with wood in A bomber jacket and a perm. And my dad was like, we're never marrying this one off. She's with us. She's with us forever.

Honestly, I didn't really understand my body, my shape, because all I wanted to do was train and, you know, be sporty. So I just always lived in T-shirts and stuff. So when it became like suddenly people were like, oh, to a party I was like what do I wear it was such and also we didn't have makeup tutorials makeup was like two shades of eyeshadow I feel like blue I feel like I wore a lot of blue eyeshadow it is right because this came in a um a three pack right and i love these rollers like you just draw yeah though and um it's it's bright bright blue and i just think ladies and gentlemen she's currently putting bright blue don't laugh i feel like this is the outfit we're gonna wear when

britain's got talent and now i know you see gymnastics as well. Oh, I can still do the split. We don't need dancing dogs. We need you doing the splits. Me and you. I mean, I might pop off as I do it, but you know. Pop off? Yeah, do a pop off. It's not a round off.

I'll do a pop off. No, that. Yeah. I mean, I'd like to say you look good. You look terrible. Like this is what we did. Just a blue eyeshadow. You just put blue eyeshadow on and you'd be out.

That looked good. But I watched Sam Chapman, who's like the most beautiful woman in the world. And she does makeup tutorials. And she had this, she didn't do this. I can assure you she did not make herself look this but she did like a little flick with a blue eyeliner and I thought lovely we had nothing we had like concealer would be like the color of white paint I do tend I do remember green concealer I feel like green concealer came out and I remember having that maybe that's why

I love green concealer yeah I feel like green concealer like was like a real revolutionary thing um I like what you've done with your eyeshadow I might do it more often I think you should I'm really I'm encouraging you okay what was your biggest teenage success what you're really proud of when you look back it can be anything it can be pulling somebody you fancied it can be whatever because i was this gymnast i got this chance to do an advert and i was in not the blue um colgate blue minty jill ad but another one so so there was the madness one do you remember the mom and dad use it it was like amazing and then the next one i was in and i just do a little stunt like it's i'm literally the size of a pea in this thing well you want did you watch it on the i suppose did you have to wait in them days for it to come on and they just gave me right a week when it might be on channel four so

every day so i sat there ready to record it and i did and then my brother recorded over the tape about two years later we kept it with a big sticker on do not record record vicky's advert you know but obviously brother thought yeah alright so you just sat there I went over it with a fishing program oh no what a git

I found it on YouTube the other day I saw you put it on your stories I'll have to put that up as well I was like yeah and it was the best day

oh lovely the best day I had a like I had a dressing room with my name on and then all these stage school kids hated me because I had my own dressing room because I was a stunt girl.

Yeah. And they all had to share. And it was my first spray tan, but they literally spray you like orange black, like so dark. It was hilarious. And I was just in a swimmer costume, just had to keep bouncing around. Like a superstar. But was everybody at school jealous or did no one pay attention no I didn't really tell anyone um and then I mean like yeah I got I used to get quite a bit of grief because I was in the paper

quite a lot just in the back you know back of the mercury about gymnastics and then people always you know what kids are like they're like you think you're amazing and you're like no i'm just i just do gymnastics ah we i went to school with emma willis and emma willis did an advert with a male model that i was so madly in love with i feel like his name was james and he was Ms. Magazine. I remember, I think she had like a Clearasil advert or something when I was at school. I remember being like raging with jealousy about that. Was she stunning back then?

Yeah, I'll be honest. I can't like, she was a year above me, I think, or maybe two years above me. And yeah, I think I don't really remember that much, but I just remember being raging when she was in a Clearasil advert with a male model and I was like should have been me I'm there when I was like 10 or 11 I don't think people really sort of did the whole jealousy thing I think if I'd have done it at senior school I think it'd probably be a bit more not me and what was your biggest teenage flop my biggest teenage teenage flop, apart from my hair.

I mean, it never was good. I think I really, really, really liked a boy at school, at junior school. Yeah. And he just never, ever, ever noticed me. Unrequited love. You know, but it was the whole, you you know good three or four years you know yeah that's hard it was really hard do you ever see him on the street i had seen him um and thank goodness he yeah it never happened because that it was he's fooled we had another story like this and then and he's not

he's not he's not fooled but he was walking along the street with a fag in one hand and a tin and it was about 11 o'clock no judgment here uh but i mean you say that but you're really judging no judgment here yeah i think he had about three t maybe it's because he never found you you could have got him on the straight and narrow yeah it was you know when you think wow i had to go home and look at photos and go no you were you were like you were the there's always one isn't there that all the girls fancy there's always one if you could go back to um vicky then what would you say what would you tell her do you know what I said no to loads of I always said no so after the stunt thing and I had

the best day and you know I look back and think oh it was um I didn't do anymore and I got offered to do some other stunt stuff but um I'd say no to lots and lots of things are things that scared me I'd often say no because I did I worried what other people would think fuck you much I'd think oh people will think I'm cocky because people would say that and go oh you're always in the paper and then I didn't want to give ammunition to come back at me. I constantly said no to things. And that was probably only a recent thing that I've actually started to think, you know what, sod it. And it's partly through parenting when I go, do you want to do this?

If you want to do this, then we'll do it. Let's find a way to make it happen. And because sometimes you see the fear stopping them doing something like and you try and help that I tried to install that in myself a little bit more so I think I definitely I missed out on a lot of fun I think yeah it gives you a different perspective doesn't it when you when you're a bit older when you're looking at what your kids so you'd go back and say you can say yes to more things yeah and not to worry as much about what people think because it yeah I mean all those people that I was worried about I don't know I don't know them no and at the time it seems so

big at the time it's like oh my gosh yeah weighs down on you and you think that their opinions and, you know, that they're the valid ones, but actually it's about what you think. And if you want to do something, you know, I applaud people that just go, oh, do you know what? I'm going to give it a go. Yeah. So you've got four kids that have kind of pretty much gone through being teens now.

Are you glad she's 14 on saturday yeah ah so are you glad that you were a teen then or do you wish you were a teen now because you've got the perspective you can tell us the lowdown sometimes i'm jealous of their teenage years because i know a lot of people go, they've got it so hard because of social media. It's no different. We had it so hard. Like, our kids know social media. They know about filters. They know and they understand it.

And although it's still damaging, they know. Whereas the magazine that we were looking at, we didn't know these people. No, I had no clue. Heroin Chic was just like, you all want to be looking like Jodie Kidd or you all want to be like, it's like, it was so unrealistic. And, you know, it was just so, so hard. And there was no one telling us, actually, do you know what? This isn't real. Don't worry.

Yeah, it's not real. As parents, we've got that power as well to go, you do understand that, you know, that's filtered or, and they have that understanding. I also feel like when they go to secondary school, when I went to secondary school, I then lost touch with all of the junior school. Whereas now, like all of my kids have kept their junior school. Yeah, it's so easy with whatsapp just to keep in touch with people isn't it yeah and I love that that they're still connected and you can if if it's what it's a friendship that's worthy it will last now that's what's so beautiful you can

keep in contact I love that you know when I was 40 the photos that were put up on the wall it was you know it was just one disastrous outfit hairstyle you know um I went to when I I mean I don't even know how I met Mr Impone because I basically looked like a 40 year old woman when I was 21 I was dressing like um business smart business like maybe like a suit jacket go to the boardroom at any moment but i was actually going out to a club right suit jacket satin shirt yep i'm out lads yeah oh no what's happened i don't know what whereas i look at them and i'm like they're so stylish yeah and can i just say as you've been talking your eyeshadow looks really nice now you're getting used to me not used to it i think we need to get this this maybe i've come too close yeah the one on that side what makes make sure

it's pop i'll tell you what, we're going to bring it back. We're going to bring it back. We're going to bring it back when we're on Britain's Got Talent. It has been so wonderful to have you on the podcast. I can't believe we didn't sing. I thought we were just going to sing. What do you mean we sang Shaka Kaka, everybody? We recreated the...

Okay, go on, pick one song. Let's leave on a song. Oh, gosh. I mean, it's got to be Whitney for me. I mean, you went for one that's a little bit hard. I want you to sing. What? Don't say I will always love you.

But you know that. Do you know what happens when we sing loudly? The microphone just puts off. So I think the microphone's just like literally exploded. No, no. You know what happens when we sing loudly? The microphone just cuts off. So I think the microphone's just like literally exploded. No, no. You know what? If we wanted to sing Whitney Houston properly, we could. Yeah, but we don't.

Can't afford the royalties. The royalties? No, not the royalties. No, it's not royalties. What do you pay them? What do you have to pay them when you're singing their song? Copyright. Yeah, we'd be copyrighted by Whitney's estate.

And we don't need that drama. Not again. I've got telly to watch and cups of tea to drink. Right, Vic. I will see you very, very soon. Thank you so much. Bye. Oh, it was so lovely to have Vicky on the podcast and reminisce about Morton Harkett mainly.

I may need a whole episode just dedicated to the joy and the beauty of Morton Harkett, his face, his hair, aha, absolute classic, be sure to go and follow Vicky on Instagram, she is wonderful, as I said she's in pro-life over there and she does art, she does some trans fashion, family life, just a brilliant positive account so I would definitely go and give that a little follow whilst you're online why not give me a five-star review or leave a little a little comment that'd be amazing and don't forget to join in with the poll and also go and follow me on the phone box podcast Instagram account where we do polls pretty much on the regular I love you lots oh and also we want some voice notes from

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