The Phonebox Podcast With Emma Conway - Viennetta, Babycham & 90's Christmas: Sarah Rossi (Taming Twins)

Episode Date: December 9, 2024

This week on The Phonebox Podcast I take a deep dive into some of YOUR favourite Christmas foods from the 80's and 90's! Joining me is Sunday Times bestselling author Sarah Rossi aka Taming Twins. We ...chat about Walnut Whips, when exactly you should open your presents and get confused between The Upper Hand and 2.4 Children. Be sure to follow Sarah on instagram here and grab her book What's For Christmas Dinner? here.Tune into the podcast on YouTube here for bonus food tasting footage!For more of me follow @brummymummyof2 on Instagram, YouTube, Facebook and TikTok and follow the @phoneboxpodcast account on Instagram for polls and nostalgic fun.If you have any guest suggestions, topics you would like me to cover email admin@brummymummyof2.co.uk and be sure to tag so I can see where you are listening!#80s #90s #christmas Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:01:19 Not yet. Only three. Three-time best-selling author, cook extraordinaire sarah aka taming twins welcome to the phone box podcast thanks for having me you have been on episode before so if people want to go and find out about what your life was like when you were 14 go and check out one of those episodes which i think i feel like that was a long time ago but i feel like that might have been last christmas as well anyway i will leave a link in the description. We are going to do a special Christmas edition. I went onto the phone box podcast on Instagram and asked all you lovely lot to give us some Christmas stuff to chat about. But first of all, I always
Starting point is 00:01:55 like to start a podcast with a question. Oh, I'm feeling ready. Will you marry me? I'm going to put my arm around you at this table. We started recording on a date. Can we have a little kiss? No, I'm going to ask you, because it's a special Christmas edition. You can't see if you're listening, but we've both got Christmas jumpers on.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Because it's a special Christmas edition, I want you to guess the Christmas number one in the year you were 14. So what year were you 14? 1995. 1995. As we know, we've covered that a 14. So what year were you 14? 1995. 1995. As we know, we've covered that a few times. I know, you can't believe it, can you? I know. I'd actually thought it was 1991, so. Oh. But my maths there wasn't quite working. I was too slow. 1995. It's a great year. We've had a few on the podcast, 1995.
Starting point is 00:02:42 What do you think Christmas number one was in 1995 i mr blobby no um do you want spice girls no should i give you he's 17 no you're shouting words now do you want me to give you a clue in the form of a... Mime. Interpretive dance. Yeah, I'm going to do this, okay? Imagine there's wind blowing my top. Oh, I need to drop my drink. And my hair's blowing in the wind.
Starting point is 00:03:23 I've got a white shirt on Titanic no it's Michael Jackson Earth Song how did you not get that I remember really really enjoying that album as well not my interpretation
Starting point is 00:03:39 no I don't remember it being Christmas number one do you no Christmas number one it's not shouting Christmas to me being Christmas number one, do you? No. Christmas number one. It's not shouting Christmas to me. No, Christmas number one in 1995 was Earth Song by Michael Jackson. Robson and Jerome also had a number one album, spending seven weeks at the top.
Starting point is 00:03:57 If you had to marry one of them, who would it have been? Sorry, my head was still thinking about East 17. I was trying to remember what year that was east 17 would have been like 90 i'm gonna say 94 oh okay so i wasn't too far no you weren't too far off if you if you had to pick it still wasn't it's still a classic christmas song is it yeah it is a good one with the wife pub but if you had to pick mobs and drone who was it sorry um well hang on can you just what was that program they were on london's burning was that them no london's wasn't london's burning it was um soldier soldier it was we went through a spate in the 90s of just having programs about people's jobs
Starting point is 00:04:38 it was soldier soldier and then they did and then they all did a single afterwards up on the roof um was it up on the roof and i was thinking of ant and deck obviously no not ant and deck and then they did pairs who were on a tv program and then bought a single out highly successful single obviously oh yeah and you've still not told me sorry robson and jerome um robson because if you'd said jerome you would have been lying because I'm not sure that anybody had a crush on Jerome
Starting point is 00:05:07 no let me know out there if you had a crush on Jerome from Robson and Jerome soldier soldier it was a Saturday night programme wasn't it soldier soldier
Starting point is 00:05:14 there was like heartbeat soldier soldier what did you just say London's burning London's burning what else was there what on a Saturday night
Starting point is 00:05:22 or that kind of Saturday Sunday casualty obviously darling buds of May darling buds of May I think casualty is still on isn't it is it yeah i feel like who is the main man that was in it obviously on a saturday night who is the main man that was in um in casualty because i feel like he recently left i don't know but i loved it i loved all the iterations you lot are shouting i know that home they're shouting they're like the main man right He recently left. I don't know, but I loved it. I loved all the iterations of it. You lot are shouting.
Starting point is 00:05:46 I know at home they're shouting. They're like, the main man. Right, if I typed the main man in Casualty, do you think it would come up? No. No, I reckon you're wrong. I feel like it was like, his name wasn't Sweetie. Sweetie?
Starting point is 00:05:58 The main man in Casualty. I feel like it was like Duffy. Oh, that might be. Yeah, the main man in Casualty. I feel like it was like Duffy. Oh, that might be. Yeah. The main man in casualty. Great. Charlie. Charlie, okay.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Oh, Charlie. Charlie, yeah. And he wasn't, was he? He's not dead, is he? I think he's still with us. So he's dead in the world of casualty. He appeared in, according to gail he appeared in 900 episodes from 1986 to 2024 that's wild isn't it um so yeah not not not what did i say duffy not
Starting point is 00:06:36 sweetie last appearance march 2024 well i hope you well derrick thompson who played charlie i remember i've watched so much casualty at one point that I basically did think that I probably could have carried out some kind of surgery or something I mean I wouldn't recommend that if you were in trouble to call on me but it may you know a medical programme does make you feel like that doesn't it
Starting point is 00:06:57 have you heard about that documentary this is nothing to do with the 90s this is Grey's Anatomy about the woman who what pretended to know she was ill and knew loads about medical procedures this is Grey's Anatomy about the woman who what? pretended to know she was ill and knew loads about medical procedures
Starting point is 00:07:09 and wrote loads of scripts for Grey's Anatomy but there was nothing wrong with her what? there's a whole documentary about it she was a script writer
Starting point is 00:07:16 we should watch that okay and some of the television during Christmas 1995 oh go on have a guess have a guess of one no 1990 go on. Have a guess. Have a guess of one, no, 1990, yeah, 95. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:08:12 like extra data and dollars off with your mobile plan, you're not with Fizz. Switch today. Conditions apply. Details at fizz.ca. Well, EastEnders Christmas special. Obviously. well east end is christmas special obviously um it's giving it's giving on then crap no i tell you things that were on more come on more come on wise
Starting point is 00:08:38 if you if we were more come on wise which one we be? I don't want to think about that. I think I'd be Morecambe. Okay, Morecambe and Wise is on, obviously. 2.5. Oh, I loved that programme. I had a weird crush on the dad. Who was the dad? It's one of the McGann brothers. I have never admitted that to anybody.
Starting point is 00:09:01 It's one of the McGann brothers. So the McGann brothers have been mentioned on the podcast before because I once famously saw one of them at It's one of the McGann brothers. So the McGann brothers have been mentioned on the podcast before because I once famously saw one of them at a petrol station. The McGann brothers. Were you on a date with him? No, because I was a child. Okay, sorry. So no, I wasn't.
Starting point is 00:09:14 I remember having a slightly odd crush on him at the time. I feel like it was John McGann. Okay, 50, yeah. Yeah, yeah, that was fine. And it was slightly, was it posh wife? Posh blonde Bob wife. And they liked somebody posh with somebody slightly rough, didn't they? And the dad, did he help go and be like a nanny or a handyman?
Starting point is 00:09:35 I think he was maybe stay-at-home dad, which was obviously... They weren't married. Yeah, they were. No, they weren't. I think they got married. Oh, hang on on i'm getting confused between another one oh god there was 2.4 children yeah and there's another program similar to that but the mum had dark hair one the mum had a blonde blonde please someone help me out here
Starting point is 00:09:56 one the mum had a blonde bob yeah and one the mum had a brown bob i don't know we'll have to search 2.4 children because i need to see what that looks like yeah 2.4 children so anyone knows please help me out here 2.4 children uh hang on because i need to give you the correct information about which dad i had a crush on because i don't remember the other one um do you know what i don't think i'm thinking of 2.4 i think i've got the wrong one have you yeah i have definitely got the wrong one god show me yeah yeah i've i've got the wrong one have you yeah i have definitely got the wrong one god show me yeah yeah i've i've got the wrong one can i have a picture of two children i'm talking about your program are you but between the two of us we've confused both of them right 2.4 children
Starting point is 00:10:35 had um claire bookfield him can you show me a picture of the people it just keeps coming up with flipping wikipedia ah she's the one with the brown bob yeah and you know the other one i mean yeah that's not the dad i fancied so there's 2.4 children what was the other one yes where he was the nanny or something it's got tony from holly oaks his brother in it oh so that's so what are we talking about what is the program she had a had a blonde, very sleek bob. It's not keeping up appearances. And there was two children.
Starting point is 00:11:08 She went to work in some professional career. And we talked about it on the podcast before. John. John McGann. And also, who was watching all of these programmes? Me. Yeah, me too, actually. Oh, I don't even think his name was John.
Starting point is 00:11:21 I don't think that's him. That man's playing a ukulele. Do you know what, guys? First of all, you can direct message me. his name was John. I don't think that's him. That man's playing a ukulele. Do you know what, guys? First of all, you can direct message me. Her name was Caroline. Okay. Yes, it was, but what's her programme? You can either message me,
Starting point is 00:11:32 but I'm hoping during the course of this podcast, it's just going to come to me and I'm going to scream out the name of this TV programme. Because we have talked about it before, but he was a slightly rough dad. She was posh. He went to hell. I don't know, were they not together?
Starting point is 00:11:44 But then I guess they must have got together. Anyway, that'll be what I'm doing this Christmas holiday, trying to find that. Trying to find it out. Right, okay. I also really used to enjoy, sorry, we're still on TV that year.
Starting point is 00:11:56 The British Empire was one. Have we talked about this last time? Sarah, you're weirdly obsessed with the British Empire. You also say that I'm weirdly obsessed by Frasier. That is not an obsession. That is just a comfort watch. I don't want... Look, this is not up for discussion.
Starting point is 00:12:10 We've talked about the British Empire before because we talked about how the woman kept the baby asleep in the drawer. I loved that programme. And Colin, who had open boils everywhere. What was... I just loved the whole program the the british empire was not on christmas wasn't it was it not a christmas special not noel's christmas noel's christmas past oh awful i hated that program get out of my house
Starting point is 00:12:40 yeah well i'm going towards the the British right hang on please people listening the Knowles you're in for the Knowles Christmas shows were amazing misery I'm really really sad about this I don't want sad stories on Christmas day I always remember
Starting point is 00:12:59 you have gone into that really emotional change of voice I have because there was a security guard who worked at HMV Birmingham and I feel like he wanted to see voice. I have because there was a security guard who worked at HMV Birmingham and I feel like he wanted to see penguins and Noel gave him a gift and took him to go and see penguins and I remember just crying. It was gorgeous. What were you watching on Christmas morning?
Starting point is 00:13:19 I don't know, I was probably thinking about what turkey I'd be eating. Oh, now I think Sarah's posh, right? So I'm going to ask her the ultimate posh Christmasmas question and i know what you're going to ask did you open your christmas presents when you woke up or did you have to wait till after lunch no we wake as soon as i wake up maybe you're not as posh i know i think i've got very misguided but now do you have to wait or do you open them as soon as you wake up but now open them as soon as you wake up. But now I have adult stepchildren, so they will get up a little bit later. So everyone's up maybe not as early as I would be.
Starting point is 00:13:52 You're actually not quite as posh as I thought you were. Sorry to disappoint you. I thought you would be stood up watching the Queen's speech. In my pearls. Saluting like that. And then they'd go, now... And we'll sing the national anthem. Yeah, you'd be like, can I open my presents, Mama? And they'd go now i'm hosting the national anthem yeah you'd be like can i can i
Starting point is 00:14:06 open my presents mama and they'd be like of course you can go and open your presents you'd open them and it would be like horse riding gear have you seen sorry i hope i hope she doesn't listen to this but have you seen that tick the tiktok trend where someone new is at a christmas table and they do something really funny and so that new person thinks that the family does it no so um this year my um stepdaughter's new girlfriend's going for christmas lunch nice and she's not her new girlfriend but it's the first time she's been to christmas lunch and she said why don't we all stand up and sing the national anthem before we have the turkey? And she'll think that's normal.
Starting point is 00:14:49 And that's what we do. I think you should. And I think you should like, I think you should all salute while she do it. Salute the turkey. Salute the turkey. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Yeah. Yeah. Do it. Okay. I'll report back when Pauline is traumatized. And she's just like, and she's just joining in and you're all just laughing at her. Oh, Sarah, I can't stop.
Starting point is 00:15:08 No, we can't laugh. We've got to be really serious. I can't stop thinking about that programme. My husband's just walked in. Oh, let's see if he knows. Stephen, could you come here, please? First, Stephen, in entrance to the podcast, there was a programme in the 90s that had a mum and a son,
Starting point is 00:15:24 a dad and a daughter daughter and they all lived together the mom was a bit posh uh 2.4 no we just said he just but it's not she had done they won't be able to hear that he just said 2.4 children oh 2.4 children oh no idea well you're useless you know one and only time we've been on the podcast it was an absolute farce okay so what we're really here to talk about is christmas food i asked you lot to send in some christmas food you'd like us to chat about because sarah has a christmas book out please show the people if you're watching on youtube this is the christmas book what's for christmas dinner um every year hundreds of thousands in fact people tell me
Starting point is 00:16:05 how stressed they get about Christmas food so I wrote a book to try and make your life easier hopefully I've done that but I do love Christmas food that was another reason for writing the book so it was a bestseller Sunday Times bestseller and I was with her when she found out it was very exciting we were up a hill walking the dogs
Starting point is 00:16:21 in muddy welly boots yeah and she just went oh I'm listening to Sunday Sunday Times best friend and then we went to feed some goats and it was lovely. So she is an expert as if you follow me on Brimham and Miff too I don't cook, can't cook, won't cook. In fact Sarah was like I'm coming over to your house today and I absolutely panicked because I was like
Starting point is 00:16:38 I don't know how to use my oven. But don't worry because I bought other snacks. You bought none. So I'm going to go through what people should we talk about this first oh yes sorry on youtube i bought these glasses from ebay they are actual vintage uh baby sham glasses and i bought them because i just thought they'd be really fun at christmas and then i couldn't find any baby sham so if you listen on the podcast we are holding up two beautiful baby sham glasses full of pink lemonade. And I'm going to...
Starting point is 00:17:05 Oh, ASMR is it? That wasn't quite as sexy as I thought it was going to be. I looked at... Sorry, I'm doing a spoiler now. But on that list, there was baby sham. I think a few people have mentioned baby sham. Yeah, do you know snowballs? Do I know a snowball?
Starting point is 00:17:22 I love a snowball. Do you? What is a snowball? snowball what is it a baby shaman and no it's at work abacar lemonade lime there's a video on my instagram always i make one at the start of december actually i made it a few weeks early this year because otherwise you don't get through the bottle of abacar in the whole of december and no one wants to be drinking that in january do they you can actually buy them ready mix which i saw today on my hunt for baby sham i think my sister enjoys one okay so we're gonna go i'm gonna go through and chat so sue macy said simply a box of dates aha funny sue macy because
Starting point is 00:17:59 i did find a box of dates this morning. We always had dates at Christmas. Inexplicably. Why were they at Christmas? I don't know. I don't even, I've never had a date. So we are going to try those after we finish the podcast
Starting point is 00:18:13 and you can hop onto YouTube and watch me eat my date, a date for the first time. Wow. These ones are fancy dates. They are covered in chocolate. Oh. I feel like dates have been
Starting point is 00:18:22 on the internet recently. You're probably not on like foodie side of TikTok. But people are getting dates covering them in chocolate oh i feel like dates have been on the internet recently you're probably not on like foodie side of tiktok but people getting dates covering them in chocolate and i was here for it i think it's really nice well i'll try it later then now so mary croft said and anna maria i think anna maria i think these are the same things um fruit slices covered in sugar they were in lemon and lime in a box found out found out and would that be a mulberry fruit or are they two different things i think that is the same thing when i asked on my instagram hundreds of people said that and i looked for those today as well and i couldn't find them so
Starting point is 00:18:52 is it was it like a jelly jelly with very like crusty um uh sugar rather on top on like coated in not powdered sugar like it had a bit of a crunch on the outside i feel like my nanny wet and would have had that i feel like that was a nan's sweet to have i didn't have it at my house didn't you no i don't think we did i feel like it was a nan we were on the dates actually i don't you know what sorry just going back to the dates i'm not obsessed by the dates i do love oh imagine a night in with the british empire and a box of dates what a dream um what was i gonna say oh yeah i don't think anyone ever ate the dates there was always a box of dates hanging around and i think my mum probably just put them in the back of the cupboard and bought them out
Starting point is 00:19:35 every year i feel the same about the walnuts that you've also got there and i've never tried and we were gonna eat but i ain't got a walnut i haven't got a walnut cracker how do you crack a walnut can i do it with my teeth um there was should i open this bag while they were gonna yeah she's got a bag of walnuts well they're not walnuts actually they're mixed nuts including walnuts um and there was always who did someone say this on your what about walnuts did someone say nuts in shells there was always a bag like this in our... There you go, if you're on YouTube. There was always a bowl of these on the table in our...
Starting point is 00:20:12 You hate a nut, don't you? Do you like a nut in anything? Frere Rocher. Oh, classic, though. Yeah, I don't... Are you going to go for any nutty chalk? I was going to have a nutty chalk. I don't like a Snickers.
Starting point is 00:20:23 If you follow me on Brimmerity, you know I don't like a Snickers. If you follow me on Brimhamer2, you know I don't like a Snickers. What did I say to you? Save them for me. Stephen eats them. No, I'm not a fan of a nut. I'm not a fan of a nut.
Starting point is 00:20:38 I don't know. Who's eating nuts? Me. Who's eating these? Who, who's eating these big nuts? Me. I'm banging my nuts on my mic and they always used to so there would always be a bowl of these slightly dry slightly crusty nuts
Starting point is 00:20:54 that's a sentence i didn't expect to use today um and they would always hang around in the bowl over christmas and there would be a pair. Is it a pair when it's a nutcracker? Yeah. Like a pair of silver nutcrackers. Which were dreadful. Didn't work. And you'd have to try and crack the nut.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Hurt your hand. The bits of shell would go everywhere. My mum would shout at everybody else because they put the bits of shell back in the bowl with the nuts. And you'd have to pick through the shell. Thoroughly. Totally depressing experience um absolutely disgusting you're not i'm not having one of them and then if there was not the nutcracker my dad used to try and do it in his hand and then swear and actually i can remember him swearing so much one day which was unusual that um we all laughed so much that was the highlight of christmas when dad swore because he hurt his hand
Starting point is 00:21:45 on a nut. Well, you can't, there's always a dad that's like, Are you going to try and crush one? Go on,
Starting point is 00:21:51 do it with your bare hands. Okay. Do it with your thighs like a Bond villain. You need to describe what I'm doing to the people listening to the podcast
Starting point is 00:21:58 and the people watching on YouTube can watch me do it. Emma's holding a nut in her fist. She's going to try and crush it and then swear maybe. There's not a lot happening. I was worried a little She's going to try and crush it And then swear maybe
Starting point is 00:22:05 There's not a lot happening I was worried a little trumpet was going to come out then There was not a lot of action No I feel like there's some trick you're supposed to do Maybe the trick is buy a nutcracker I know I'm getting you next year Oh yes please
Starting point is 00:22:21 Okay We've talked about Snowball MJj496 and i mentioned that sorry can i ask you a question one of those when you sent this to me someone um zoe had said to you yeah cheese cross cross what does that mean i don't know what cheese cross cross is if you do know what cheese cross cross is please let us know because anything that's like got a cheese prefix i would be in for cheese cross cross and spice not sure about that i would be there for that but um a cheese football i don't have a cheese football with me but a cheese football what's a cheese football what a cheese football is um what's the word i'm looking for like kind of crispy outside they come in um tubs like this
Starting point is 00:23:06 big one if you're on youtube you can see this crusty outside is the phrase i want to use with a slightly disgusting cheese interior like it tastes a bit like it's gone off but there's something about them at christmas that you just can't say no to i think steven likes like a crisp yeah like a snack a snack a little a little snack okay um i mean they're they're not enjoyable but steven likes them yeah he likes a cheesy ball right prawn ring prawn ring from iceland in fact sam pegram said iceland prawn yeah my mum liked a prawn ring from iceland do you for your christmas dinner do you have like a starter a main and a pudding now yeah well yeah well then i'm now oh then we wouldn't have had a starter oh no absolutely not no everyone would
Starting point is 00:23:52 have wanted to get on with eating i think as in the main event yeah um now i do some little nibbles there's some in my book in fact a bit of a plug there um that are really easy to make and i just like some little crackers with cheese and stuff and like goat's cheese and other little tasty bits that you can eat while we're kind of getting ready for lunch lovely um and then and then the main event we do have a start because i i alternate see you're fancy yeah well i have so i alternate between my mother-in-law and my mom's house for Christmas. Now we are adults. And at my mum's, we do have a prawn salad as a starter. Do you?
Starting point is 00:24:31 We do, apart from Stephen, because he doesn't like it, so he has something else. We have a prawn salad. There's no starter. He can have a cheese football. Yeah, I don't know what Stephen has. I think he has something on a bap, or a cob, or a roll, whatever you call it. And then at my mother-in-law's um i don't think we have starters but she does her christmas dinner it's like a buffet so you have everything the whole dinner
Starting point is 00:24:52 is a buffet yeah so in the kitchen the whole kitchen is just like a buffet you've got the turkey you've got your potato you've got everything you can possibly want and you just help yourself and i quite like i do that yeah i do it's too stressful trying to play lots of people yeah i really like that i i josie i don't think she'll be listening but i like that and she makes very very good stuffing and like handmade stuffing and um steven usually takes that to my mom's house as an accompaniment for us because we go to bed it's very lovely stuffing we haven't even talked about that about sorry this year christmas dinner yeah um okay talked haven't even talked about that. Sorry, this year Christmas dinner. Yeah, okay. Talked about nuts.
Starting point is 00:25:26 We talked about nuts. We talked about prawn rings. Talked about the British Empire. A couple of people. Stacey's New Beginning and JoeTable83. Viennetta. I loved a Viennetta. I loved a Viennetta.
Starting point is 00:25:38 I should have carried one of those today for you. Sorry, I didn't think I was too busy thinking about baby sham. What flavour Viennetta would you go for? oh interesting i like a good old classic it was called vanilla wasn't it but it was just white and crispy but it was the bit where you had to like um wait for it to defrost i am really gonna out myself here at my age and the fact that you think i was posh because get ready for this um i remember sorry this is not about christmas but it's about vionetta we used it on a saturday night have and it wasn't called kfc then it was called kentucky fried chicken yeah have a kentucky fried chicken fat family feast as a taker that would be the takeaway and uh it would come with a viennetta and it was the
Starting point is 00:26:25 highlight of the week that sounds lovely i know was it like you have to wait you couldn't eat it straight out the freezer could you have viennetta you had to wait well you couldn't i was too busy eating my bargain bucket oh lovely little cheeky kfc um what else have we got christmas cake do you think christmas cake is still popular your followers make christmas cakes still with the cheeky spiky icing uh there's a christmas cake recipe in this book and i made a christmas cake recipe on live and i was a bit scared of making it on live because i don't know it just felt like a big undertaking because they take a long time to cook yeah you have to cook them really slowly for a long time i love christmas cake but the problem is you do have a whole cake and you can
Starting point is 00:27:05 only eat like a little bit at a time but it does last for ages i'm i'm here for christmas cake i have to say i love christmas cake if you had to choose christmas cake or christmas pudding what you're going for i feel disloyal because the book has a christmas cake recipe but not a christmas pudding recipe but i'd probably go for christmas pudding to eat because i would like it with custard and cream and ice cream do you put pennies in your christmas pudding if i was making one i would but i don't i don't make a christmas pudding life's too short to make a christmas pudding i think yeah um my what do we have for pudding i think at my mum's house we just have we have maybe like a yule log which is a good one and then at my
Starting point is 00:27:43 mother-in-law's she sometimes does like a trifle a big trifle or like an eat a mess that's what we will be having love all of the above yeah it's it's at jose's this year so we'll be having some sort of nice big trifle we never had a trifle growing up for christmas and when i asked people when i was writing this book so i asked like last christmas um do did you need to have a trifle at christmas and so many people said yes so it is really popular it's literally the only time i would eat trifle i think oh now here's a foodie retro trifle question would you have jelly in your trifle or not because people were divided about that i I feel like, first of all, I am never going to make a trifle.
Starting point is 00:28:26 What? What are you doing with my book? I didn't even know how to turn the oven on. She's in the door, stop. I didn't even know how to turn the oven on. I think Josie has some sort of strawberry layer, maybe. I don't know if it's jam or not. I mean, jelly or not. I don't know. When I wrote or not I mean jelly or not I don't know
Starting point is 00:28:46 when I wrote the book I didn't want to put the only time I've liked trifle I didn't put I don't like jelly in it but everyone told me I've got to put jelly in it so I did I listened to the people actually what happened was in Birmingham people took to the streets and they just had banners and it just simply said jelly
Starting point is 00:29:02 jelly jelly and people who didn't know they were a bit confused like what's going on what is all this rage it's a message to me right sarah some of your followers talked about vintage food what food did they mention there was a lot of talk about twiglets i'm not sure how vintage these are because you can still have a twiglet now we're gonna have some afterwards i would only eat twiglets at christmas it's not an all-round snack for me also i feel like they need to come in theiglets at christmas it's not an all-round snack for me also i feel like they need to come in the big tub at christmas oh it doesn't count i love i'm the only person someone needs to do twiglet asmr i'm the only person in my whole
Starting point is 00:29:35 family likes a twiglet what yeah and nobody else eats marlite and what for me i love a twiglet what else did they mention uh after eights there was a lot of talk about after eights did get some of these for you i love and i'm the only person that eats after eights as well yeah i don't love an after eight do you know no there's something about the texture of the inside that's a no from me here's the burning question to the people listening the people watching and you if you were going to eat an after eight mint would you put the wrapper in the bin or would you just leave it in the box? I would 100% put it in the bin.
Starting point is 00:30:07 It would give me the ick to have it in there. I think we all know I'd leave it in the box. I'd leave it in the box and then people would go to put their hand in and they'd have to rifle through. Imagine that disappointment. Imagine that disappointment. It's like a little game. It's like a Christmas game to try like like a game it's like a christmas game to try and find the one after eight minutes okay so your followers have mentioned some stuff
Starting point is 00:30:30 as well you went to the shop and grabbed some bits yes they did these are actually the ones that have come from my brain oh okay so these weren't your followers these are just what you remember yes these are things that i thought about having at christmas do you remember these this is if you're not watching on youtube this is a toffee a toffee this has got a nut this would was this does it know i would have a toffee it's given um your nan went on holiday and bought you something back from the airport is it yeah 100 that's what we would get back a little toffee can you open it it has like a nice wrap. Oh. And you just,
Starting point is 00:31:06 I feel like it might have had a different, I feel like it had a different wrapper. You sort of slightly have to pop them out. Yeah, and you have to pop them out, but I don't think you have to pop these out. We're going to taste one of these afterwards. Yeah, we'll taste one of those afterwards. So a toffifee is a good,
Starting point is 00:31:17 a classic Christmas snack. I'm interested to know whether they have stood the test of time in my brain. And then the other one, this is very nostalgic for me is a walnut whip oh i love it my nanny ivy always had a walnut whip we would always get her a walnut whip i'd like to think i've got her a different present as well not just a walnut whip but she loved a walnut whip i bet every year she's like walnut whips again you hate walnuts i don't think i have had a walnut whip for probably 30 years
Starting point is 00:31:47 more i can't wait to try a walnut whip because i have i think a little bit of a sexy way of eating a walnut there's something for us all to look forward to um also i've got something to tell you what i've just i know what the programme was called. You thought that was going to be sad. Guys, I thought that was some sort of like, I didn't know what the, I was racking my brain. I was thinking, well, I know she's the best, I know she's a snow-time storyteller. I know she doesn't want any more children. And I know she's not been long married, really. Well.
Starting point is 00:32:21 What? I literally, did you see my face? I was like. Okay. I love that if you're not watching on youtube you should be just to see that tell me the announcement the name of the program do you want one last go anything no because it's she told me to um a mime so it's not 2.4 children it's not keeping up appearances go do the mime it's so she looks like she's feeding a horse. Oh my God, it's the upper hand. Yay!
Starting point is 00:32:52 Cheers, let's cheers our baby sunglasses. It's the upper hand. Oh, because she... She had the upper hand. But they weren't originally married. That bit of the plot you got wrong. He moved in, but I don't know why. We don't know why.
Starting point is 00:33:09 I think he was a nanny or something. Yeah, I feel like he was a nanny. The upper hand. I wasn't going to be able to sleep until... When you said you had an announcement, I nearly was sick. How much time was I... Okay, right.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Before we go and do some taste testing over on YouTube, can you let the people who are listening to the podcast, give them your top three Christmas Day tips. Ooh, okay. Don't eat an after eight mint. No, you must do if you love it. My top three tips are to get organised in advance. If you're cooking Christmas lunch, do as much as you can beforehand
Starting point is 00:33:45 because life is too short to spend the whole day in the kitchen that is one um get other people to help i think would be my number two um make sure everyone knows what they're doing don't take it all on yourself it's too much pressure too much stress and if you've got a plan c.1 before you can it's easier to give some jobs out to other people to do and number three would just be just remember everyone's there to see you have a nice day no one actually cares if your parsnips are floppy um i once found my red cabbage the next day in the back of the oven on boxing day that we hadn't served you're like what's that I literally was I was like oh did you eat it
Starting point is 00:34:26 or did you no I did not sadly that went to waste but I'm just I think there's a lot of pressure around cooking at Christmas and there can be
Starting point is 00:34:34 and yeah life's too short enjoy the day enjoy the day where can the people find you on Instagram at Taming Twins
Starting point is 00:34:41 everywhere at Taming Twins TikTok and Instagram and Facebook and the book is available on Amazon and everywhere you would normally buy your books. And I will leave a description, what's the word?
Starting point is 00:34:51 A link in the description box to Sarah's books. Thanks so much guys for listening to this very festive episode. We've got one more episode before the end of the year and that is going to be an episode with my, I haven't even asked her yet. I have to get up and ask her, it's a episode with my sister,
Starting point is 00:35:06 so every series we do, we focus on a year, so if we're doing 1990, it's going to be focusing on 1991, now if she says she won't do it, I'm going to have to get my dad, to do it with me, and that'll be a seven hour long podcast,
Starting point is 00:35:18 and I'll probably be cancelled, so we will see what happens, so guys, thanks so much for listening, to this week's episode of the phone box podcast with me Emma Conway and Sarah Rossi go over and follow me on BrimhamMove2
Starting point is 00:35:30 for everyday mum life in the lead up to Christmas and the phone box podcast we will be having some festive polls also on BrimhamMove2 I'm doing a festive food poll this week I'm not sure who's in the final yet but I kicked out roast potatoes because that won last year. No, won last year.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Oh, okay. I'm going to do a champions of champions. So if you want to watch us taste test some food, go over to YouTube. And if not, I will see you next week for another episode.
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