The Pomp Podcast - #1070 Andrew Tate Is The New Alex Jones

Episode Date: August 2, 2022

This episode is a conversation with Andrew Tate, the most viral person on the internet right now. This conversation was recorded back in May of 2021. In this discussion, Andrew shares his unique and often controversial opinions about society. Some I agree with, some I do not. What's clear is that Andrew has mastered the internet and the social media algorithm, and I thought it would be important to share his opinions as part of the broader conversation in a free speech society. ======================== BCB Group is the leading payment services partner for the digital assets industry. BCB Group provides payment services in 30+ currencies, FX, cryptocurrency liquidity, digital asset custody and BLINC, which is BCB’s free, instant settlements network for the BCB client ecosystem. Find out more by visiting bcbgroup.com/pomp ======================= Bullish is a powerful new exchange for digital assets that offers deep liquidity, automated market making, and industry-leading security. Combining the innovations of DeFi with the regulated environment of traditional finance, Bullish empowers users to trade with certainty and earn passively at scale across variable market conditions, in an environment backed by multibillion-dollar liquidity contributions from the Bullish Treasury. Visit bullish.com/pomp today to learn more.   Note: Bullish is licensed by the Gibraltar Financial Services Commission. Virtual assets and related products are high risk. Consult your investment advisor and trade responsibly. Bullish is available in select locations only and not to U.S persons. Visit bullish.com/legal for important information and risk warnings. =======================

what's up everyone this is anthony pompliano most of you know me as pomp you're listening to the pomp podcast simply the best podcast out there now let's kick this thing off the following is a conversation with andrew tate the most viral man on the internet right now i actually recorded this conversation with andrew in may of 2021 but i've sat on it for over a year because i thought that andrew was going to blow up and oh boy did he blow up. In this conversation, Andrew shares a whole host of different views and opinions, some I agree with and some I don't. But hearing directly from somebody who's not only mastered the internet and social media algorithms, but also has some unique and different views is important as part of the

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in them. Bullish's services are available in select locations only and not to U.S. persons. Visit Bullish.com slash legal for important information and risk warnings. Go check them out at Bullish.com or follow at Bullish on Twitter. Anthony Pompliano runs Pomp Investments. All views of him and the guests on his podcast are solely their opinions and do not reflect the opinions of Pomp Investments. You should not treat any opinion expressed by Pomp or his guests as a specific inducement to make a particular investment or follow a particular strategy, but only as an expression of his personal opinion. This podcast is for informational purposes only. All right, guys. Bang, bang. I've got Andrew Tate here. I don't know where the fuck he came from,

but he's here in Miami. What's up, man? Man, I'm glad to be here, my friend. I'm really glad to be here. You can't walk in the studio looking like this. Just got swag off the charts. Well, you know, I'm trying to stay clean. You know, this is Miami. So I thought I had to, you know, dress up look my best listen we got new lights and stuff but you got your sunglasses on we're just gonna roll with it let's do it no one's ever ever done an interview with their sunglasses i can't read your eyes that's fine whatever i have to keep them on to protect myself from the fire which i'm about to bring to the world you understand this is eye protection all right i think of you as like the dan bilzerian of eastern europe is that a fair characterization

that's a pretty fair characterization but there's a slight difference in that And I'm not hating on Dan. I don't mind Dan as an individual. Okay. But Dan is more of a customer and I'm more of a pimp. Do you understand? No, I don't. Explain.

Dan's the kind of guy who would contact a man like me to get girls in his videos and his pictures. I'm the kind of guy where the girls pay me the money Dan gave them. Why? Because that's just how the game goes. I mean, I first made my millions of dollars. The first time I ever became a millionaire was with Webcam Studio. Oh, really?

I didn't know that. Yeah. This is how I first ever made money. I mean, I was a kickboxing world champion, but kickboxing is not boxing, right? Yeah. So I'd make like this a hundred thousand dollars a fight. You fight two or three times a year, you pay 20% to your manager, you pay taxes, but you're not rich, rich. But when I retired from fighting, it was because I found this little hustle of getting very beautiful girls to sit on laptops and talk to these men on the internet. And I grew this little empire and I, that's how I first started making millions of dollars. So that's how I first got rich. Where is this all happening? What country? This was all happening in England.

okay so my life story is eclectic bro it's gonna be hard to like listen keep track you're gonna be like what i have what i i'm prepared to sit here for as long as this takes because i know this is gonna be uh entertaining to say the least i'll do my best you grew up in the united states correct where i grew up in a party town called goshen indiana all right yeah no one's heard of it's not a party town okay so yeah i grew up in goshen indiana um my father was a chess grandmaster i was on track to become a chess grandmaster so he was a legitimate chess grandmaster my father was the highest rated black chess player in history really yeah my father was a big g in chess yeah so i kind of grew up around all these chess geniuses which is a really unusual way to

grow up because you have like xkgb guys you have complete autists like everyone's a weirdo right you're not that you're not that good at chess and be normal what happened to you yeah i'm weird too i guess i don't know but it was kind of weird like growing up around all this hyper intelligence and uh like even my father a lot of people say oh i i know this guy he's really smart or i know this guy has a photographic memory no and i'm not just saying this because he's my dad when you've met true supreme intelligence i've never met anybody else in the world who had the level of intelligence he had so like when you're like a grandmaster at chess like fisher chess which my understanding is that they just scramble up all the pieces and you just look at the board yeah he

could pretty much beat anyone in the world yeah it's it's more than even that it's more just like supreme the ability to supremely recall information when i was with my father if he needed your phone number he'd ask what's your phone number and you'd say it once and that was it for the rest of his life but he didn't have to write it down you tell him an address that was it for the rest of his life he never wrote anything down he never had to repeat anything to him my father when he died someone messaged me who was in because my father was in the cia he held the fact the record of the cia the cia record for the fastest assimilation of a foreign language. My father learned Russian within two and a half weeks from zero. Like he would just

read a book. He'd just read the dictionary. Like to these people, it's just like, just read it. When my dad died, James Altucher, do you know who he is? James Altucher, you can ask him about my dad. Him and James played a game and it was a draw in the end. And James did a tribute to my father saying that he was just a scary dude. Like he was just supremely smart. Right. So, so when, when you were growing up, did you know your dad was in CIA? Uh, he had left the military by the time i was any i was like three when he left got it to pursue chess um so yeah he was a linguist he knew like four languages and he was a professional chess player and i grew up around this absolute supreme intelligence and i always knew even when i was a child that i was smart but

i wasn't that smart like i my my beautiful mother watered me down like i didn't have what he had like he was complete he remembered every chess game he'd ever played so you could be sitting there and he'd say oh i played him in 1982 and he'll just go through the whole game or he could beat you at chess without looking at the board so you'd have a board in front of you and say e4 he'd be in another room c5 knight f3 knight c6 and he'd be cooking dinner and he'd fucking smoke you really yeah it's crazy it's crazy he'd play simultaneous is where he played 100 people in a row so they'd sit there and they'd think and he'd just go board to board just make quick moves he played a blind simultaneous where i'm just talking about different uh you have a board and he has

nothing he played three people at once blind beat them all that's that's how good grandmasters are This is what people don't understand about chess chess. I'm a kickboxing world champion. And I'm telling you, forget the UFC, forget kickboxing. The hardest sport in the world is world level chess. These guys are wired different. You can't learn it. You either have it or you don't. So how do you go from your dad being so intelligent, so successful at chess to wanting to kickbox? Because to me, they're the same thing. Okay. Why? Because I was growing up with chess and then my mother and father split up. My mom was English wanting to go back to England. I was 11 10 or 11 we went back and in america chess is quite big in the schools and obviously i had my

father as a coach who would take me to tournaments all these things i lost my so you played a lot as a kid i was state chess champion age five in indiana the under 16 so i was the youngest ever i remember i remember i was sitting there i was sitting there across i was sitting there across from some 16 year old when you're like five and a half that's scary right and i remember when i beat him he cried that made me happy i was like haha not so big now at five years old yeah you were the indiana state chess champion and the under 16s yeah so i was the youngest ever winning so i was on i was way on the i was on the way to becoming a grandmaster did you watch uh queen's gambit i'm assuming everyone's asked you about this i haven't watched it because i believe it's

feminist hollywood garbage and it's propagating the demise of masculinity amongst the population So sorry to give you a Alex Jones answer, but the answer is no, because it's, because it's, it's just feminist garbage. And it ain't true. Why do you believe that? I believe that because that's what's obviously happening. I mean, there are, there are talented female players, but they're not nearly as talented as the men overall. They're not nearly as good as the men overall. I think the best female in the world is like number 50 in the world. If you, if you incorporate men. And I believe that Hollywood takes every single chance it can to empower females to the point of reducing men's ability to look like a man, right? They just want to

feminist propaganda. That's all it is. This woman comes along. She's beautiful. Everyone doesn't take her seriously. She beats them all at chess. Every dude in every movie is getting beaten up by a chick. That's not real. Whenever you watch something on TV and every sitcom, the mom's the smart one. The dad's the bumbling idiot. Like, I just feel like men are kind of under attack in culture. So I'm not going to sit there and watch a chess movie, which I know is absolute fantasy, which is just propagating females beating men at something else they don't beat men at you they don't win what's the best female chess player of all time i don't know okay do you have any clue that have they ever been top 10 top five no it's gonna be like i think maybe top 20 maybe

top 30 at most never top 10 okay and so how big is the difference between top 10 and top 20 or top 30 it's pretty big and although in like if number five sits down with number 25 is it just 99 out of 100 times number five wins or more like 70 75 i think okay because what happens in a chess is especially if you're really good even if you're in a losing position you can push for a draw right so it's very hard to beat someone better than you you might get a draw out of them but to actually beat them actually to crush them is difficult and this is what my dad was so known for my dad is famous in the chess community to this day emory tate was his name they called him et as in the alien because my dad was one of the only players who would never take a draw and he would rather

lose in a blistering blitzkrieg fashion than take a draw right so he had some big losses but he also had some fantastic crushing victories where he just went all out he was he was really on the board it was like it was blitzkrieg did he just come at you with everything and everyone to this day even when he died James Altucher was talking about him saying I never played a guy who played chess like that the guy was just crazy so he was a he was a crazy chess so why do you say chess and kickboxing are so similar because i want him firstly i want to make someone else cry like the 16 year old i made cry secondly in most sports there's a degree of luck i'm tired to listen to poker every time i mention chess some guy mentions poker i don't play chess i play poker as if it's

the same intelligence level shut up one is not right poker yeah you have to be semi-smart but You don't need to be an actual genius to play poker. That's the first thing. Because of the luck involved? There's luck. I don't care how good you are. If I get pocket aces every single hand and you get a crap hand every single hand, no matter how good you are, I'm likely to win overall, right? Whereas there's luck involved.

So there's, and in most- You know that luck's not real, right? You think, is luck not real? Yeah. This is interesting. You want to hear my theory on this? Tell me. So luck is purely a psychological concept.

So all these people who are like, oh, I got lucky. No, you didn't. It's probability. so probability is a mathematical concept right meaning that uh the hand that you get dealt that's not luck or not luck it's just probability so you had low or high probability of getting that hand uh same thing with outcomes in life yeah right it's all probability based yep luck is a psychological concept meaning that let's say you and i both go to war yeah right and uh your leg gets blown off yeah and i say to you man you know what you were really unlucky that you're the one

who was sitting in that seat in that vehicle that got blown up. And you may say back to me, no, I'm lucky because I got my other two arms and legs. And so luck, even though we both see the same situation, it's all the mentality. That's what determines luck. I completely agree with you, but don't you think that viewing yourself as a lucky individual will give you an advantage as viewing yourself as an unlucky individual, even though it's all probability based. If you go through life, there's academic research that suggests literally the best way to become quote unquote more lucky is to literally just start saying i'm a lucky person well there you go then it's all psychological yeah yeah it's all psychological the concept of probability

versus the concept of luck gets completely conflated in society and it's safe right everyone's oh i got lucky i got lucky why are you successful you ever heard a successful person no one wants to say hey there's a probabilistic uh environment that got put into or probabilistic some of us are going to get rich yeah yeah and i made decisions that helped me get there everyone just so I got lucky. Like, no, you didn't. It's a psychological concept because that same person who did this exact same steps in life would walk away and say, I didn't get lucky. I'm unlucky because X, Y, Z reason. This is true. I complete, I actually completely agree with you, but it's one of the things that I believe and can prove from a psychological and mathematical standpoint that

the most number of people get very uncomfortable when I talk about it. No, but I agree with you completely, but I, I actually agree with you. I've always viewed myself as exceptionally lucky because I just think that's the best way to approach situations. Yeah. It completely changes uh the psychological way that you view the world and what you can do it's just like saying i'm a happy person yep then all of a sudden things that happen to you that would take you out of that state of happiness are much less likely to actually have an effect because you just view yourself as being a happy person i completely agree in fact i said something like this someone was talking about feeling sad or whatever and we're talking about when am i ever sad because

i'm always so positive and i said no i'm different variations of happy i have more happy and i've slightly less happy but unless something terrible's happened i've lost a family member unless i'm literally distraught. Every day is a happy day. Even sad days are a happy day. They're less happy than yesterday, but it's still a happy day. Overall. I'm a happy, lucky person. And I refuse to be, to categorize myself as anything else. So I agree with you. All right. So kickboxing, you end up becoming a four-time world champion, four-time world champion. Okay. So like, that's not like, Hey, let me go out in the backyard and like kick somebody in the head and hope like I'm good at it. Right? No, but I took chess very seriously. Chess was six hours a day of my life.

And I wanted another sport. I won't say luck again, because we've had that conversation, but I want another sport where a teammate couldn't save me or that there was no probable chance that my opponent would have an unfair advantage like poker. So chess is one-on-one. And if you lose somewhere along the line, you made a mistake and fighting is exactly the same. And both of them are brutal. And in both of them, you're trying to crush your enemy as ruthlessly as possible. And I always thought I saw the mental similarity between the two. So I decided to start learning to fight. I started when I was around 16 and I became world champion at 23, but it's all I did. 16. All right. So you start at 16.

and when you decide to do this uh i know very little about kickboxing but my guess is that that's not something that you're just like naturally good at right i think you can have you do there's certainly some talent level you can be naturally good at it fighting very much like chess is also a thinking man's sport i've had 87 fights my nose has never been broken right you you see the fighters that look like fighters they're not as good as the fighters that don't look like fighters those are the ones you gotta worry about yep right so it's certainly a thinking man sport it's certainly tactics it's certainly fighting's very simple fighting's like tag if you were to play tag in slow motion it's extremely simple it's easy but it's hard because

things are happening quickly right that's all fighting is it's not complicated movements they move their hand you can see a gap you hit them or you slide you move the side it's just everything happens so fast that's all it is so but the only difference with kickboxing is it's not just uh your hands right and kind of punching there's this whole element of like hip mobility and flexibility and the ability to kick right and not only to kick somebody in the shin but to be able to kick them in the head yeah kick on the head like there's a uh there's an added level of complexity when you go from boxing to something that looks more like a ufc or kick yeah in some ways yes there's an added level of complexity but also in other ways there's an added level

of simplicity because because in boxing you have less weapons so you have less to worry about but you have less to hurt him with whereas in kickboxing you have more weapons you have more to worry about but you have more to hurt him with so in some ways like in boxing it's harder to find a way to hurt him even though you have less to worry about whereas in kickboxing or ufc there's always a way to hurt him right so i wouldn't say one's necessarily harder than the other i just chose kickboxing because it was the only gym i could run to and my father my mother and father split up and i loved my father with all my heart but chess doesn't pay that much and he loves booze and gambling and women so he was broke uh when we were in england uh with my mother the british

social system give you like a government housing so we were on welfare effectively so she had no car and i was working i was going to school and i was also working in a fish market and i would carry boxes of ice like 30 kilo boxes of ice from 7 a.m till 6 p.m every day for no money so i needed a gym where i could run to i couldn't there's no other way for me to get there was before uber i couldn't afford taxis so the nearest gym i could run to was a kickboxing gym and not a boxing gym and that's kind of how i ended up kickboxing my coach was a bosnian special forces guy and he was there and that's it. So when you walk in at 16, do you want to like go compete competitively? Do you just want to like learn how to fight? What's the thought process?

I was just perpetually bored. I think I really don't understand people who say they lack motivation in life because I'll make this extremely clear. If you're not pushing and striving for something, life is so mundane. I've always had this problem with literal crippling perpetual boredom. I was bored. I had no money. I'm carrying boxes of ice. I'm a smart guy. I'm not playing chess anymore, right? I'm 34 now. So this is quite a few years ago. It's before the internet, before Facebook was all big and nothing. What do you do with your life? What's there to do? I thought I need to do something which drains me so that I can go to sleep at night without frustration. And if I kick box, if I run three miles to the gym and then fight for

three hours and run three miles home, at least I can sleep. I literally couldn't sleep. I wouldn't say it's ADHD, but I was just frustrated. And then on top of that, I've always had this huge frustration in regards to money, even though I was poor, I'd grow up around a bunch of other poor kids and we'd be walking to school or walking to college and a Ferrari would drive past and they'd go all cool Ferrari. And I'd say, doesn't that annoy you? And they're like, what do you mean? And I'd be like, he knows he's hacked the matrix. Don't you see, how does he have 400 grand for a car? He knows something we don't know. Aren't you annoyed that there's people out there living a lifestyle that we can't ever aspire to. We're never going to work and a job and pull this

off. Doesn't this bother you? And they all be like, no, but me, it was, I was always angry. I was always angry and not angry in a go to jail way, but just in a, I was angry. I was like, something isn't right. Something doesn't add up. So I kickboxing was my answer. I just started kicking, kicking people's ass. And I just felt a little bit better. That was kind of how it worked. At what point did you realize you were like world-class at this? So when I, my first day in the gym, I walk in my coach, it was four Bosnian men, men. I was a child. It was four Bosnian men in this tiny little terrible gym. It was not like a commercial gym or a commercial class. And he said, can you fight? And I said, yeah, I've done

karate for a few years that I got knocked clean out my first day, of course. And I guess they expected me to never come back, but I kept coming back. And my coach said to me, look, after about a year, he said, look, I want to put you into a fight. And he took me down to a town called South End-on-Sea. And my first fight wasn't kickboxing. My first fight was actually MMA. And it must've been a little over a year because I was 18 and I was fighting a 24-year-old security doorman. and uh being a stupid american i thought pounds and kilos were the same because i weighed in at like 82 pounds he weighed in at like 90 no i weighed in at 82 kilo he weighed in at 90 kilo which is an eight kilo difference which is almost like 20 pounds and i was like to my coach is that

a big difference he's like no no don't worry about it i was like okay but thinking back a 20 pound difference a big difference in fighting right and i got in there and i won i didn't win necessarily through skill but i just kept going and i just out gassed him and towards the end i'm just on top of him, just punched him in the face. Right. And I'm only 18 years old. So from there, my coach was like, okay, you have some potential. And I knit for a long time. It was, I believed it was my only way out because like, like once again, before the internet and stuff, I'm going to college. I finished college. I don't believe in university because I'm too smart to get in debt for formal education. I'm too smart for that junk. So I finished college. I'm working these

sales jobs. I was always a good salesman. So I'm working sales jobs. I'm bringing in, you know, 3,000, 4,000 a month, whatever. But I thought my only way to get rich, rich is fighting. I couldn't think of another way to get rich. And I didn't fight only to get rich, but I saw light at the end of the tunnel. So that's all I wanted to do was just fight, fight, fight. And so at what point do you go fight for the first world championship? So I fight for my first ever world championship on two days notice. So I'm in Slovakia. There was a town. I'm going to tell everyone now on this podcast, I'm going to give the secret away. If you go, if you're bored right now, if you're watching this on the internet, load up Google Maps, right? And there's a town

called Košice, K-O-S-I-C-E. And it's on the opposite end of Slovakia to Bratislava. So Bratislava is the capital. And then you have Košice on the other side. It's four and a half hours drive from Bratislava. It's about four hours drive from Warsaw and about four hours drive from Budapest. It's in the middle of nowhere. But all the villages and all the towns, everyone around this little town, every hot girl within about 400 square kilometers lived in this town because there's no there was nowhere else to go right and they were all there and when i was going there this is pre-eu they didn't have the euro and me and tristan used to go there on holiday because we would clean up and when i say clean up my brother and when i say clean up i don't mean

clean up like you clean up on holiday with some in mexico i mean clean up with tens like super models it was unbelievable and a beer is like 30 cents and we're the only men there who speaks english it was so much fun so we used to go to this little town i'm saying it now because it's completely ruined because they built an airport and the european union came along and all the hot girls have left they all live in switzerland now and they're all in dubai and it's all ruined this is all before instagram and all that crap right instagram's ruined the world because back then a hot girl would be hot and she'd be stuck in her town now she's hot and she's in dubai right so the game's different right but um so i was in kashid say and then i got a phone call from

amir saying you have a world title fight in two days i was literally drunk at the time and who's amir amir is my coach sorry okay he's a bosnian muslim he fought in the yugoslav conflict he got shot six times didn't die that's amir right so he's still like a father to me today and uh i must have been crazy i was like okay i i can't explain and i want to say this in in a way where it's truly understood when i say i didn't give a shit if i lived or died i don't mean that in a sad suicidal way i mean that in an empowered charging at the gunfire way back then i didn't think i had anything that really made me really give a shit about living not not in a not a do to do sad way just in a let's go out on a blaze of glory then i'm not rich i don't have nothing

i'm just banging girls in slovakia unless who is this guy so it was against the french world champion jean-luc benoit was his name and the opponent pulled out and they needed a guy on two days notice and i had to lose six kilos which is around 13 or 14 pounds in two days so easier hard that's hard bro 13 pounds in two days a lot of weight to lose so i just started stopped eating stopped drinking sitting in saunas spitting all the water just dying finally made weight went to france fought him 12 rounds my first ever 12 round fight as well fought him and uh they gave the decision to him but i was robbed i beat him and we i beat him i beat him i didn't knock him out but i beat him and uh is this one of the four world championships or this

is the fifth no no no yeah well it should be yeah but the tape was so convincing we the tape was actually sent off to the iska the fighting organization and they command they demanded a rematch that's so they knew i won right okay but he's france it was he's french it was in france and and fighting has a lot of politics to it you have to understand i mean ufc's ufc the real big ones but outside of the smaller ones it makes more sense for the french promotion of a french champion they'll sell a lot more tickets and a lot more pay-per-views with a french champion so basically either you knock them out or it's gonna go it's kind of like that right so they commanded a rematch i rematched him seven months later i knocked him out in the eighth

when i became world champion okay why keep going once you've won there's always a new mountain to climb i mean that's kind of that's a good question because that's also kind of the reason i quit because it's like why keep going well there's always someone new to fight and i'm still not financially where i want to be and i don't know what else i want to do with my life so i'll keep going right so i thought again i'd be another frenchman and then i thought again i'd be uh two dutch guys uh to become four-time world champion but one day i woke up and i was like is becoming five-time world champion gonna improve my life i mean i've already got do i need five belts how much money do they pay for these fights okay so first things first fighting is the worst career

path in history why it's the worst career path in history it because it involves a degree of probability much like modeling or being a musician right you can be a fantastic musician you can be better than every known musician in the world but if you don't know the right people right place right time come up with the right tune you're just not going to be famous same with models you have the models we all know there's a whole bunch of women prettier than them who are just doing the little low-level model circuit not making any money there's a degree of probability involved with it that's the first thing the second thing is it is show business it's not all about how good you are it's how good of a show you can sell so if you're really really good but nobody's interested

in watching you fight you don't get fights why would someone put let's say i was amazing and i beat i beat everyone's ass but no one pays to watch me who would give me a fight against their cash cow i'm gonna smoke him and no one wants to see me fight like basically if you're like a super technical fighter that has no flair no personality no anything it's not very entertaining to watch but you're good yeah it doesn't really sell tickets it doesn't really sell tickets and everyone's in it for money right you can you can be so boring and so good that you make it to the top do you know who triple g is uh yes yeah so triple g did it that way but he's like from kazakhstan he barely talks he's had 400 fights and now he's known at 38 like he beats every he

beats so much ass they'd eventually say you know what okay we'll put him in there but you could do a conor mcgregor have a few fights with a big mouth and do better right so that's that's another element of it there's a huge element of show business who's better set up for their career to be triple g or be conor mcgregor conor mcgregor is more famous it's show business we live in an attention economy the economy we live in now is based on attention if you can get attention in your direction for any reason bad or good you will be successful the kardashians have no reason to be successful it's attention it's the world we live in now and there's so much information and so much entertainment around garnering people's attention stealing people's attention is difficult to do

but if you can find a way to do that you're going to do well i mean triple g has money now whatever but i'm saying what's the odds of doing a triple g having 400 fights and never losing like like no one can do that by him he's literally a one in a billion so um it's a really bad career path for that and also there's a huge luck element you have one bad fight one bad night one bad injury that's it and for the over yeah and for the first few years of your fighting you're getting paid a thousand bucks three thousand bucks two thousand bucks this doesn't mean you need to work on the side you're giving up all your free time to get punched in the face like it's a terrible decision like i don't know why i decided to do it but eventually once i was world champion i'd get

like a hundred grand to fight, but I'd give 20% to my manager. Then the UK with the UK taxes, 40, 50% would disappear. And sometimes you only fight twice a year or whatever. I was certainly not rich. I didn't consider myself like 30 to 40% of the money. Yeah. And I didn't consider myself rich, like 30, 40 grand chunks twice a year, maybe three times a year and living in London, London rents need a car. You're trying to, you know, like you're not rich in any way. And that's actually the reason I retired because I woke up one day and I thought I'm giving six hours a day of absolute focus and energy to this. And I believe I'm smart enough that if I put that much tenacity into something else, I can be a multimillionaire. I truly believe that. I was

like, I've realized now I've reached the pinnacle of kickboxing. My choice is either to change over to MMA, which I was offered to do earlier in my career. But at the time the kickboxing contract paid more money. I had to pay the bill. So I went kickboxing, change over to MMA, learn to wrestle, change over to UFC, blah, blah, blah. But this is also like seven, eight years ago where even the ufc didn't pay the money it pays now but the usc still doesn't pay that much money from what i understand no if you're like top five or champion yeah but most of the dudes you're gonna see there in the prelims they're getting 10 grand to fight nine grand to fight it's not it's nothing right so it'd be like starting my career all over again and at the age of 28 i thought i don't have the

gumption to start again i've done i've been through hell for this i've broken my hand eight times my ribs have been broken you know i don't want to do this all over again so so what do you do when you realize that, Hey, maybe I don't want to keep fighting. I really, I decided to get rich, rich. What does that mean to you? When you sit, when you're sitting there, you're getting, you know, 30, $40,000 kind of net on a per fight basis is rich to you. Like, Hey, I want a couple hundred thousand dollars, a million bucks, $20 million, a billion dollars. I want 30 or 40,000 every month, 30 or 40,000 every month. It's about half a million bucks a year. Give or take. I thought if I had that much money, I could do whatever I wanted. Okay. That's what I decided.

So what's step one that you do? So step one is maybe that's how we ended up here together. My friend, step one is I tried, decided to be very logical about it. Chess player, right? So I was like,

I want money. What is money? How do banks work? How does credit work? What's fractional reserve banking? All these things we now know to be the biggest cons of the century, right? So I'm sitting there researching money for days and days and days.

And then I get more mad because I'm like, whoa, whoa, money's trash and I don't have any. Now I'm really, now I'm really annoyed. Right. I thought, I thought like everyone else did that, you know, everyone puts their money in the bank and the money, the bank takes some of other people's money and lends it out. I didn't know they invented it from the sky. I still, I still at that point thought money was linked to gold. I didn't know nothing. So I'm learning all this stuff and I'm getting really angry. I'm like,

now this is really annoying me. So, um, anyway, I got, I had a piece of paper there and I'm in my research phase and it started start writing down some dude on YouTube. I don't know who he was some dork he was a pro gold guy this is before i made bitcoin was probably around then but like early he was a pro gold guy saying buy gold buy gold buy gold and uh he was saying the difference between an asset a liability etc etc so i started trying to write down what i had i was like i have an apartment i have a bmw i can i'm in good shape but i already use that for fighting uh you know what can i do i can play chess i'm just writing down the things i have and what i'm good at and then i kind of realized i was like i've got like eight girlfriends because because i was traveling

in the world and if you win you get a ring girl it's kind of like just she's banging the winner right you win a world title you get to choose the ring girl you want it's pretty easy right so i had a girlfriend in slovakia i had a girlfriend in france i had a girlfriend in england girlfriend all these girlfriends do they know about each other no okay but they find out pretty soon so um i had all these girlfriends so i'm like maybe i could open a strip club and like be a pimp you know be a gangster about it and then that opening strip club that's literally the first thing you thought about was well i thought i have these beautiful girls how can i this is before like twitch existed so i was like what can i do with these hot girls i was like it's just an

asset right there's these girls and a lot of them were messaging me they thought i was this millionaire world champion they all wanted to come london live with me and thought i was a big boy millionaire and all this stuff so it's like they do because of social media well partially because and also because they met me i turn up i fight i win i win the world title i leave we're texting each other they don't they assume i'm this big boy right so i'm kind of like what am i going to do What am I going to do? I thought I investigated strip clubs way too much money, but this, these, this asset class of beautiful women was kind of on my mind for a few days. And then by absolute coincidence, I stumbled upon somewhere on the internet. I was on some, one of those websites

where you used to download like free games and bullshit from, and in the corner or somewhere, it said, hot girls want to talk to you now or something. I said, hot girls. So I clicked on that, not because I was interested, but because I thought I have hot girls. And it was one of those webcam websites and i was like ah so these girls sit here and talk to dudes for money so i'm gonna get my girls and they're uh naked they're just talking how does it work it's 50 50 i mean it depends on the girl depends what she wants to do but the the the majority of the job is not based around being naked the majority of the job is based on being entertaining and being uh easy to talk to and the guys who are talking to you need to find you uh that you need to remember their

name remember their dog's name you have to be smart you can't just be a girl and be a bimbo and be naked and make money. You have to be really smart, charming, interesting, happy all the time, positive. And I thought, I'm going to try this. So I messaged all five of my girlfriends, told them I had a job for them, explained to them what I was going to do. I was going to launch this company. Four of them agreed. All four flew in, sat around the same table. They're all like, who's she, who's she, who's she? I'm like, well, you're all my girlfriends. Two more left. And then two stayed. And that was the beginning of my little attempt at a webcam empire and i put the girls there and and my role in it all was i did all the tech side of stuff

which is the first thing of course and then also and i get called a pimp a lot but i and the reason i use the term is because i don't see it as a negative term i see it as positively inspirational and motivating person i was i'd motivate the girls i'd make sure they did their job properly if they had a bad day online i'd come up with a good excuse for them oh it's been a football game it's been really busy don't worry you're so beautiful don't be upset you did better than her she did the best today did i keep everything organized put the schedules together all that kind of stuff and uh is it hard it's hard because women have to want to work for you women have to want to obey you that's what's hard and you don't do that this is one of the biggest misconceptions i really

want to clear this up people in the movies and stuff pimps are like aggressive mean men complete opposite pimps are more like james bond james bond's a pimp he sleeps with a girl to get information he doesn't care about her he is absolutely not really a pimp he doesn't hit her he makes her love him she does what he wants he uses sex as a weapon to reward her and then he disappears that james bond is absolutely not really a pimp so i say pimp because everyone calls me a pimp online tries to go haha you're a pimp like i'm gonna get offended it's like no beautiful women wanted to work for me and they wanted to work for me because i displayed supreme supreme competence and they knew if they worked for me they'd make a lot of money so whenever i was out i'd meet a

waitress and say well look you're working 10 hours a day for pennies you can work 10 hours a day for me make 10 grand a month or 20 grand a month and over time i just build up this big this big little empire of webcam girls at one one point i had four locations 75 girls working for me and we say locations like explain what goes into a location i just rent houses all right so you rent a house and in the house you just literally hey go live here there's like technology set up and then you can basically uh just sit in front of the computer and literally be on the other end to one of these webcams and guys are paying by the minute, by the hour, whatever to talk to you. It's their choice, whether they are doing it fully clothed, just talking, getting naked,

whatever. And then you're taking some cut of it. Yeah, basically. So I had girls who would live in the house and I was pretty impressive. I just broke down the webcam business. No background information. You nailed it. So the girls who lived in the house would have set amount of hours they want to do. And then we'd have rooms that they could book in and do X amount of hours. A girl could come and do one a week or whatever we'd have rooms they could share and then um yeah very much exactly like you said they'd go online they'd do their hours they'd have their regular customers they'd get their money and then i'd take around half of the money around 50 you take 50 around 50 okay is that high or low compared to the rest of the well i'll tell you why it's very low it's

low because every time a girl would quit and try and do it by herself she'd make a fraction of the money overall because she hasn't got the instruction she hasn't got the motivation she's just lazy with it right and women have a very different mentality to money than men if you show a woman how to make a thousand dollars in an hour she'll think i only have to i only have to work an hour a week which if you show a man how to make a thousand dollars an hour he thinks ah i can make eighteen thousand dollars a day that's the difference between us so if i had a girl working for me making twenty thousand she got ten i got ten if she quit she'd make three for herself if that so they made nothing by themselves they didn't have the instruction what about are

there other people like you doing this at the time at the time i didn't know anybody else doing it like me okay i've now discovered in certain countries like in romania and the places i live now there's a lot of boys doing this okay this is big business in colombia brazil this is big and all the big models on only fans and webcam nearly all of them work for men nearly every single i would say now if you see a model and she's really big she's working for a man okay this is fascinating because uh take only fans we know it's a massive business right it's as much of a technology business as any other business absolutely people want to talk about uh i think people get very uncomfortable talking about some of it just because there's this element of like uh

sex and exploitation and and whatever um where's the line right and i asked you because i think that you've seen kind of different variations of this you know a lot of the players etc is it this is just a business and people can do what they want to do both as the customer side and the other and it's like a marketplace is it no there's like ethical concerns like how do you view i have i have absolutely zero ethical concerns i totally i totally view it free market capitalism and the reason is this if i were to shut down my all my webcam operation i still have a little bit today i still have four girls working for me if i were to shut it all down it's kind of like if an alcoholic walks into your liquor store and you deny him vodka does he

stop being an alcoholic or does he buy it somewhere else like you can't stop these guys want to spend money and on top of it it's actually quite a positive industry i'm telling you now and i'll say this here. Webcam girls have prevented more male suicide than any therapist, any group of therapies, anything you can possibly think of. There are dudes out there who the only pleasure they have in their world is knowing that this beautiful 19-year-old in Ukraine knows their name and remembered their birthday. That is their pleasure on the planet. And really, I'm telling you now, it's far closer to therapy than it is to sex, this webcam industry. These dudes genuinely enjoy looking after the girl. The girl genuinely becomes friends with the dudes. And overall,

all it's it's a very positive thing i've had girls work for me who had one boyfriend their entire life and they're they met him when they were 17 and now they're 25 they're with the same guy i have some girls working for me so they basically they're in a relationship yeah it's just pure work it's just money it's just work right it's no guy touches them it's all digitalized it's all just pixels on a screen obviously you have the odd girl's a complete hoe and she'll be a cam girl and also a prostitute and stuff but if you can make 30 40 000 a month from a computer why would you go be a hooker why would you get up and get dressed and go out there why would you even do that like a lot of these girls are a lot more pure than men will give them credit for this

is fascinating to me because uh i think that people look at it the exact same right most of like the general public if they hear you talking about webcam uh girls and like this whole business etc they immediately like oh that's prostitution yeah but it um coming from like a technology standpoint not having thought a lot about this before uh there's a very interesting world where you start to think about like okay if it's a real person then there's ethical concerns what happens if all of a sudden it's just literally a avatar yep right and it just looks really really real and that's starting to happen now oh really yeah we're starting to get like there's a couple of accounts on some of these webcam things and it's like a a barbie and it is a girl controlling the

barbie but she like controls barbie she has a personality for the barbie no literally it's a barbie doll oh and she's like controlling the barbie has a personality for the barbie that's a little weird it's it's weird but the world but hey the world is the world is weird but my point is i didn't have ethical concerns because the girls no one exploited the girls i made girls rich i didn't exploit women are there uh female bosses in any of these organizations uh you do have so you do usually have like a girl boss okay which is usually the best cam girl okay so you do have a girl boss but there always has to be a man at the top there's never because women won't give their money to a woman what do you mean if you had a woman who was in charge of a bunch of women

all the women at the bottom would look up and say why is she not on cam why am i not why am i giving her my money whereas a man they can go ah but he's he's the man if they truly respect you they understand that you know things they don't know basic things my friend basically so no no woman's ever run one of these organizations i don't know maybe but i never met one every man i know who's doing this was a man and the women liked even if the way even if he wasn't sleeping with all the girls i should get one of them to come in here and do an interview and explain this absolutely but um even even if even if you're not sleeping with all your girls you're obviously sleeping with some whatever but you have to be wait hold you can't say that offhand comment just keep going

like 65 of them but um 65 of the people who worked for you yeah you're sleeping with they wanted to i mean if they if a woman respects you enough to work for you then she respects you like every it's like the old adage of the woman at the office liking her boss right you're her boss she's naked in your house you've made her millions and millions you got a lambo out front you're the big g like what's gonna like come on so can i uh put this forward one of the things i think a lot about uh over the last 12 months or so okay is there's a lot of things that happen in the united states that are completely seen as uh offensive exploitative uh incorrect politically incorrect the whole nine yards yep other countries it's actually way worse yeah so for example uh the

united states there's a lot of people who get very very upset uh some for right reasons some for not about racism in america right and the way that i kind of think about it is like racism exists all over the world right and uh we should do everything we can to not have racism exist right uh and on top of that there are certain situations where it's more likely to happen than not correct right and so if we can identify that stuff then like let's address the real problems and not screw around kind of crying wolf when they're it's not correct now i say all of that as like i think that most people when they look at a problem like racism they come at it from a genuine hey we should solve this yeah right there's other countries in the world where this isn't not only

is not a conversation it is a thousand times worse go anywhere in asia well and by the way that doesn't make it okay but it's just the reality of the world right it's just the the relative component of this is very fascinating because it's much more of a conversation in the united states than it is in many other countries as well and so what you start to really kind of peel apart here is that conversation is important in the united states right we should solve the problem. But these other countries are actually, whether it's racism or other types of issues that the United States now is kind of facing, it's actually really antiquated in some ways. Completely agree.

Right. And so you've spent what the last, how many years in Romania? Five years. Okay. And then before that lived most of your life all throughout Europe, right? How much worse off is the United States versus these countries and vice versa? That's a really good question, but you've just nailed it because in some countries, the conversation really isn't a conversation. Like I live in Romania now, right? I'm not a Romanian. I live in Romania. Now the, I think in the last census, it was 99.7% of people inside of Romania are ethnic Romanian, like 99.7. So nobody goes there really. And it is, you do get

some interesting observations. I was Bucharest, the capital city. People always say to me, Hey, Tate, are you okay over there? There's mafia and stuff. And I say, look, you live in London. Don't worry about me i'm fine book arrest the capital city is extremely safe really it's extremely safe now i'm not gonna lie to you yeah there's mafia but the mafia boys are not interested in your wallet like the the chance of random violence is statistically zero if you have a big mouth and make big enemies you're gonna go missing right but that's the same nearly anywhere in the world if you're gonna run around running your mouth you can do that here in miami you'll get in trouble right if you show people respect the odds of random violence in romania is basically zero

And just so we're clear, as we go through this conversation, you're half black, half white, half black, half white. All right. And, uh, going to a place like Romania, a hundred percent white, 99, 99% white. Yeah. 99% white. It's 99% white. Everyone's white. And, um, so in a good case, people just think you're tan. Yeah. They think I'm tan. But even, even some of my friends who came to visit me who are black, they don't really have a problem with it, but we're never going to be seen as Romanians. That's my point is more so it's just very obvious because the country is so homogeneous in terms of the skin color. We're never going to be seen as Romanians. And it would be insulting for me to try and be a Romanian. This is what's kind of unique because in America, you can turn up here. You can look Japanese. You can be from Japan. But if you speak fluent English without an accent, you're American, right? But you can go to Japan and speak.

And that is a very aspirational thing and heavily encouraged by the country and not seen as a negative. It's actually seen as a positive. Hey, we want people to come here. Completely. That are contributing to society, that are smart. We want them to become Americans. the american dream all that stuff yeah basically we're saying other countries that's not true absolutely not you can go japan and speak fluent japanese without an accent be perfect you don't

look japanese you are not japanese and you will never be japanese you'll never be treated like a japanese and man and the man every man out there does not want his daughter with you because you're not japanese it's the same thing in romania to a degree right i was in a taxi and it was three in the morning and these two girls were walking we're in the taxi and they're walking through the park and i said i still find it very strange that girls walk alone at night here everywhere there's no problems and the taxi driver said to me yes but they're romanian girls a romanian wouldn't hurt a romanian girl as in it's like why would someone hurt her because we're all romanians that's completely gone from the west so that was like mind-boggling to me but then also if the

police stopped me or something i am treated with additional suspicion oh especially because i have a nice car right i have 17 nice cars don't want to brag but when i have 17 supercars but um if i get stopped in lambo the ferrari at night and they they come up and there's a foreign plate it's a british plate car and they come up and they find out i'm american they are more they do call for backup they are very sketchy they're like whoa whoa whoa is it because you're american because you're half black or because of the car or i think it's a combination of everything all three but i've been in the car with my romanian friends when the police stopped them and it's far more relaxed it's far more like hey you were speeding oh and they're like yeah i was speeding

and they're not angry like it's kind of interesting as well because an american cop if you speed will be genuinely mad at you for breaking the law whereas a romanian cop would be more like we all do it but i got you ha ha ha and they all laugh and have a joke and then you pay a bribe and it goes away it's like it's very much more chilled but when i get stopped it's not chilled i'm not a romanian would american cops be more chill if they got the bribe maybe maybe maybe but then but then also no one runs from the police police never get shot like it's just a different environment completely like there's there's never been i think the police have killed one person in like 22 years or something like no one it's just a different environment it's really really safe

place overall so it's kind of cool from that perspective and you're right all the but the way i'm treated in romania in america if i was treated that way in america i'd be kicking off and this is racist but they're they're racist they are racist but i just think you know i'm on their turf and i respect it so it's like it is what it is it kind of almost sounds like uh it's accepted and therefore nobody argues about it whereas in the united states right uh the expectation is that no racism is the default right whereas there it almost feels like racism is the default well the thing is you have to recognize about racism i'm saying this as a half black half white person right i think we often confuse racism with pattern recognition and i know this sounds bad but

it's true if i walk down the street and a purple man attacks me and then i walk down the street again the purple man attacks me the two years later when i'm walking down the street and i see a purple man i'm going to be more intimidated than if it was a green man for example that's pattern recognition this is how humans learn to not go stroke lions because remember hey remember that guy stroked the lion he ripped his head off i'm not going to do that anymore that's pattern recognition right so we also have to address the fact that certain people in certain positions are going to unfortunately have a bias towards certain things because of a pattern they've recognized that's not racism right so i understand that the romanian police for a while they had problems

with russians and a few other nationalities anyone who wasn't romanian was seen as a criminal and they, and I'm turning up in a super fast car. I'm not Romanian. They, they're going to want to get me out my car, search my car, get the drug dogs that, because that's just the pattern they've recognized the biggest problems and the biggest busts they've ever had have been non-ethnic Romanians. So I just respect it. I'm not going to sit there and let it bother me. Do they give you a hard time? Uh, they give me a semi hard time, but I'm also super friendly. I know how to get through life. This is another thing that people don't understand about racism. I'm telling you now

people who say America's racist, blah, blah, blah, fine. You could get the, probably the most racist cop in america and i'm not going to say all the cops are perfect i've seen him do some dumb stuff of course i have but in general i like to believe that if you show someone respect 99 the time they show your respect back regardless of what color they are you know what i'm saying when the police stop me i just show absolute respect i'm just like oh i love romania i'm so thank you for letting me be here and after like 10 seconds like oh okay it's cool but like if i was getting out like hey why are you stopping me you're stopping me because i'm foreign i'm a big dude now they're gonna be getting their hand on the guy like why it's just stupid i don't know i

think a lot of people make a lot of stupid decisions out here but yeah in terms of racism america is absolutely not the most racist country in the world if you travel like i have i've been to 72 countries basically every country is more racist in america i was in iraq long story i was in iraq they're all racist against each other for tribe or for last name where'd you go i was in iraq i was in baghdad about three years ago there was a a member of parliament wanting to become the sports minister and to become sports minister he wanted to fill a stadium and have a kickboxing fight in front of everyone but he didn't want to lose so he fixed it and because he fixed it he wanted legitimate world champions to come to give it credibility and he wanted me to give a

speech afterwards and he paid me a bunch of money and got me a government pass and a private jet from romania to go to iraq and i'm kind of like is this stadium gonna just blow up you know when you're in iraq and you're like in the stadium me and tristan are down on the grass like far away from the bleachers we're just like oh man but but even to almost anyone else in the world to be like you know, when you're in Iraq, that'd be a weird thing to say, but yes, I do know what it's like to be in Iraq. So, okay. So, you know, so, you know, right. So yeah. And, and, uh, so I've been all over the world and there's racism absolutely everywhere. Africa's completely racist. They're all racist. Who to, to, to look, look up your history. They were at war with each other for

basically no reason. Humans are tribalistic, right? And the number one way you're going to destroy racism, if you really want to destroy it, it's to stop talking about it. Stop discussing it. You think that's the solution? I think it's the beginning of a solution. I think if we just look at police brutality as opposed to police brutality versus white black asian let's look at a police brutality right now we have this stop asian hate thing going on and yeah it sounds like a good idea okay stop asian hate because you see some asian person get beat up and it's on the internet that i'm i guarantee yesterday when that asian person got beat up a black guy got his ass whooped and a white guy got his ass whooped just the same people get ass whoopings like why do we have to

put a race on the ass whooping stop ass whoopings why why out of racing stop police brutality why add a race in why are we adding race to everything if all you look for is the same thing and you add a race taint to everything then you're going to see racism that's how it works that's how the world works it's like when you buy a lambo and you thought you never saw a lambo before now you see them everywhere and you're mad you thought you're special and you're not it's the same thing if all you look for and all you talk about is the same thing you're gonna identify it right so we need to stop all police brutality against all people even against sexy caramel kickboxing world champions leave me alone that's how this is how the world needs to be but it's too it's just

this fixation on race and to tie into maybe the Bitcoin argument a little bit, but I truly believe this is propagated by the ruling elites on purpose because when a black billionaire meets a white billionaire, do you think there's any racism? Do you think they care? Of course he's a billionaire. I'm a billionaire. Both our yachts are in Monaco. He's from Algeria. He stole all the gold. I'm a stock market, whatever. There's no racism. The racism is for the poor people because if you keep the poor people divided they can't wake up long enough to do what i did and read about how money works because if they do that we got big trouble right then the slaves will wake up you don't want to deprogram the slaves so you have to convince the slaves that it's not the monetary

system fault that you're broke it's not the monetary system's fault that you continue to work for a set number of dollars and the price of houses just keep going up and up and up it's not the monetary system's fault it's the white man's fault or the black man's fault or the asian people's fault someone else's fault because if the poor people all fight each other they can't wake up long enough to look up and go oh there's not actually that many of them ah okay you know and we can change things and this is what's crazy about it i think all this stuff feminism racism all these things i think they're all control mechanisms they have to keep the poor people fighting amongst each other because if the poor people all unite then it's much harder to control

us that's all i really truly believe is happening i believe we live in a world now where the people who are truly in charge of the world are scrambling, trying to find new mechanisms to control people. They're scrambling because the internet has allowed us to think for ourselves. The old mechanisms of controlling people, the old propaganda machine, like the Vietnam war. Oh, tell them they took one of our boats, put on the news. Now we can go send young men to die in Vietnam. I was in Vietnam. I'm military aged. Now when I go Vietnam, we're all happy and smiles, right? Four years ago, they'd be shooting me. Like all those people died there for what? It's stupid.

The whole thing is stupid. And they lied on the news about why we even went there. But now that we have the internet and now people can look and fact check things themselves to like, oh, okay, well, our propaganda mechanisms, they still work. Corona's proved a lot of that. They still work, but it's getting harder and harder. So we need to distract the people. We need to distract them. Did you know all the police are racist?

All of them. Every single police officer is racist. You know they're going to kill you for no reason? Did you know that? It's a control mechanism. Who do you think is in charge of the world? you want me to go alex jones on a level of one to ten how alex jones do you want me to go no i want you to tell me what you think like if you had to say uh all right there's all of this

uh kind of coordination to some degree that's happening uh specifically around mainstream media around the narratives that are created and they're done with a specific purpose in mind who are the people who are planning that or uh or trying to coordinate all this okay so i don't think it's like dark room oh it is actually kind of like this but i don't want people to imagine i'm thinking as like dark room dudes sitting around making plans it's kind of like that but it's just you know dinner clubs and golf clubs etc what i truly not dark rooms lighted rooms like lit rooms yeah lit very fancy nice rooms no but what i truly believe it is is that every single human on earth tries their very best to propagate their worldview for the same reason

we're doing this podcast we're trying to explain to people how we think based on our own experiences and how we think the world should be right so if you have a worldview and you try your best to propagate it, the more powerful you are, the more influence you have over people, the more likely you are to influence your worldview. It's the same with any company, right? When you walk into your company at work, you want to say, look, do this, do this, do this, and people obey. You don't want to say do this, do this, do this, and people disobey. So if you're a very, very important person and you're in charge of things and you control, I don't know, all the food in a country, you don't want a minister that's going to give you trouble. Why would you want members of parliament to give

you trouble? This is your country. You basically own all the land. So you want a minister who's going to say yes sir no sir it's your company so the more powerful you are the more likely you are to appoint people that enforce your worldview and there's certain people in the world today that have so much influence i don't even think they necessarily believe they're doing anything evil but they think and view the world a certain way and they use all of their political leverage all of their friendships and all their financial leverage to try and point their the world in the direction they want it to go and that's exactly what's happening these are the people who control the world the people control everything they control everything they control the news

they decided i'm not going to give my political views but the people who own the news channels decided it was better if trump wasn't in the white house they thought you know what he doesn't listen to us and i think i know best and i want a president who's senile and will sign anything we give him so let's let's get rid of trump let's get sleepy joe and let's do whatever it takes to put our guy there so when i give him a page of legislation 50 pages long he doesn't even read it He just signs it. Trump, he read it. Can't stand that guy.

I ain't got time for him. I'm trying to save the world. I'm a good person. I know what's best. My family's been in charge forever. I know what the good things for the world are. And that's all that's really happening. People are really trying to force their worldviews.

And these people have huge influence. Do you think that it's just the media or do you think it's technology companies? I think it's everything. But how can it be everything? Because power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. These people have so much control, so much power. they decide they decide truth at this point it's not about truth is subjective true false doesn't exist right if everyone in the world were to simultaneously agree that two plus two equals five

then two plus two now equals five it doesn't matter if math doesn't work anymore the whole world believes two plus two equals five that's now true if they control what people see and control how people think then they control what's true and what's false trump is racist because they've said he's racist he hasn't done anything racist but they've said he's racist to the point where trump's now a racist that's now true these people now can literally bend reality in real time let me ask you a question if there was a basketball game between some random people on the street let's say we were to go out there and get five people for each side basketball game and told them the winner was gonna get ten thousand dollars and there was no referee do you think that

somebody might try and cheat a little bit uh i think i would expect them to cheat exactly so if people out on the street will cheat for ten thousand dollars you're telling me the people in charge of the world aren't going to cheat to keep control they're not going to lie they're not going to trick the general populace to keep us all as slaves we're talking about cheating over a little basketball game you're talking about they're not going to cheat an election do you think to control the free world of course they'll cheat this is humans we'll all cheat this is the exact point these people in charge of all this stuff all they've ever done is cheat why would they play by the rules you can't risk losing do you think that uh every election in every country

is rigged so this is a really good question so after the u.s election was rigged which it was after they rigged the u.s election why do you say that i say that because all the empirical evidence points to the fact it was rigged like like the fact that it's the longest count in history like you can see the spike the spikes of votes just appearing out of nowhere popping up all the boxes of votes appearing from the sky the all the evidence if you actually look at the evidence of the election it doesn't make statistical sense none of it adds up there's no way there's no way joe won that i'll tell you another reason i know it's rigged i know it's rigged because judge judy a good friend no she's not a good friend of mine but i love judge judy she has a saying judge judy

has a saying if it doesn't make sense isn't true hillary was supposed to beat trump everyone knew hillary was supposed to beat trump hillary they put all over the news she has a 99 chance of winning she had all the support from the media companies all the support for the political elite she's supposed to beat trump trump won the political elite and the elites behind things start panicking just like i said oh no we no longer control everything from the shadows because the president won't listen. We used to have presidents who obeyed the shadow figures. Trump won't obey the shadow figures. So they invent Russian collusion. They spend years inventing Russian collusion, trying to get rid of him. All they do is try and get rid of him.

And I sat there with my brother. And when, when Biden won the democratic election, I said, this election's rigged. I said it before the election. Tristan goes, why? I said, do you think people who have spent the last four years inventing charges, trying to get rid of Trump are going to put up sleepy Joe and let him get landslided? Do you think they're that stupid? If Trump beat Hillary, you think the people in charge of the world really believe Sleepy Joe's going to do it? He didn't even campaign the whole time because they all knew it was in the bag. They said to Joe, don't worry, my friend. It's in the bag.

Don't worry about it. Take a nap. We got it. We got it. They rigged it from the start. So, of course, it was absolutely not really rigged. It was rigged. And what's interesting is about three months ago, there was a military coup in Myanmar.

Do you know that? So three months ago, there was a military coup in Myanmar. I saw this on the news. I thought, oh, that's interesting. And I looked into it a bit And the reason the military Took over is because They said the elections

Were rigged I was like okay And I looked into it A little bit further The two political parties In Myanmar Were around 51% 49%

Back and forth For a while Until the 90s When one political party Became very good friends With the Clintons Since then they've won Every single year

By a huge margin And the military Is now taking the country back Saying all the elections Are rigged No one's voting For these people And they keep winning

Do you know what Voting machines they use? Which ones? The same as the United States so now i realized the whole thing now every now i know it's all fake it's all fake all of it's fake now how does that explain somebody like trump then explain somebody like trump because trump was the first time they used their this trump was to wake up call for these people their traditional methods of control the propaganda machine failed them for the first time in human

history and then it became now it's become scramble panic stations right usually it's put all over the news scare the people it'll be fine up until that point every single war gulf war vietnam war it always worked out right the first time ever trump's bad trump's racist he grabs girls by the pussy hillary's the person you want there's a 99 chance of winning don't waste your vote trump's gonna lose trump's gonna lose trump's gonna lose and trump won they couldn't believe it why do you think he won i think he won because i actually thought until corona that there are people out there in the world with half a brain and i think people were tired of the political elite. Nobody wants Biden. Go down the street. You say, do you want Biden or you just not like

Trump? And if they're programmed to go, oh, well, I, well, I didn't like Trump, but no one's like, yes, Joe Biden. Nobody, nobody wants him. His, his, his rallies were empty. Nobody wanted him. Right? So after the propaganda machine failed them for the first time, they started going, okay, well now what do we do? Our propaganda machine doesn't work. So we have to do two things. First, we have to fix our propaganda machine and get strict with censorship and fact checkers we have to fix our propaganda machines the first thing we have to do second thing we need to do is just rig this because we ain't losing twice in a row no way four years i haven't had absolute control over the world and it's an ego trip my entire life my my family since

the dawn of human time since the beginning of the monetary system has controlled everything ever you're gonna tell me there's a four-year period where i couldn't snap my fingers and get what i want this is unacceptable you don't know who i am fix this rig it i don't care what it takes what are the people gonna do what's amazing is the people who are in charge of the world now they're doing stuff in broad daylight. They'll kill Epstein in front of us all. And they realize the people aren't doing anything. They've got us so divided at a lower level that we don't unite behind anything. So now they don't have to hide things. They used to have to hide their crimes, right? Now they're just like, Epstein's in jail. They're sitting around the table. Well,

Epstein might talk. We can't kill him. People will know. Who cares if they know? Kill him. Okay. Boom, boom. Everyone makes a few memes and a story. So now they don't have to hide what they do anymore so everyone knows the election's rigged they didn't even try and hide it mail-in voting we're gonna take an extra 10 days to count and uh but buses of votes come out of nowhere and it's all fair get over it they don't even hide what they're doing anymore do you think the president matters no who the president is well i think trump mattered because he was the last bastion of resistance to the shadow figures who truly run the world i think now from here on out is never going to matter because whoever's in there is in there because he has people above him who he

complies with. That's what I believe. I believe Trump was the last hope of a president who actually had ideas and actually cared. Putin said this. Have you seen the clip of Putin? Putin said this in an interview. They said, what do you think of Trump? And he said, I've been through three United States presidents. You can Google this yourself, gentlemen. He said, I've been through three U.S. presidents and they all have amazing ideas, but the ideas don't get implemented because people don't understand how strong the bureaucracy of America is. When the people with the dark suits arrive and explain to him how things are really done, his ideas will not come to fruition. Putin said himself, the president has people above him telling him what

to do. Putin knows it. Everyone knows it, right? Trump's the first guy who said, no, I want to do this. I want to do this. I want to do this. And they just attacked him with a propaganda machine, nonstop onslaught of attack to program and brainwash people. And on top of that, they still rigged it because he was still winning. That's what's really happening in the world today. And when you look at things like Corona and all these other things, it's all an attack on the freedom of individuals because the people in charge of the world now understand that they can no longer control us via propaganda and they have to remove our freedoms and to remove our freedoms there's only one thing you can remove you can only remove freedom and replace it with

one thing humans will accept and that's safety you won't be free anymore but you'll be safe i promise give me all your freedom you don't need to own anything give it all to me but i'll keep you safe oh it's the whole idea of the government's coming to save you it's the only thing that stupid people will accept and that's why in real time we see our freedoms evaporate in real time day by day And we're too busy arguing about racism to do anything about it. Whole thing's crazy. What do you think is the biggest freedom that's evaporated over the last 12 months? Well, in the last 12 months, we've lost our freedom to leave our house.

We've lost our freedom to not muzzle our own face. A mask is a big deal to me. You can't tell me what to put on my face. It's my face. Soon the vaccine's going to be mandated. That's a huge deal to me. Do I believe that that vaccine's actually going to hurt me? No, I'm strong.

I'm Iron Man. No. But I should have some sovereignty over my own blood. You're telling me I don't get to choose what's in my bloodstream? The government owns me to that level like a sheep in a farm where I can't even decide amongst myself.

I can't make a personal decision to keep my blood pure of your experimental vaccines. This is insane. We've lost freedom on every level. And what they do when they take your freedom is they take a bunch of it, then they give half of it back and say, we're back to normal.

And people go, yay, back to normal. Now I only need an extra vaccine passport and I can go on holiday. We're not back to normal. A year and a half ago, we could do whatever we wanted. nothing's back to normal and it's never going to go back to normal until people stop complying so what's the solution the solution like for the individual person who's sitting there saying everything you're saying i agree with uh what do they do and that's a good question but really

corona i had very little faith in humanity in corona corona sealed the deal man corona sealed the deal i could not believe the level to which people were complying with this garbage i really couldn't believe you're telling you're forcing people to close down family businesses they've had for generations you're putting people out of you're bankrupting people like all over a virus that they will openly tell you won't hurt you 99.9 survival rate and people are still complying i couldn't believe it i really i was sitting there in real time like this is remarkable i was in romania and romania is part of the eu and eu is all shadow figures you know who's in charge of european union i do not nobody does that's the exact point they have a parliament the parliament

can discuss law but it cannot repeal law or make law the laws are proposed by a committee who's on the committee nobody knows are they elected no really google it so romania even though the romanian politicians and i have very i have very high friends in romania and i have casinos in romania which i've been trying to reopen so i've had meetings with high-level romanian politicians offering them bribes and they've sat there and said we know corona's bullshit but the eu is giving us relief funds billions and billions we have to comply we have to make lockdowns we're all sitting there with no masks everyone knows shadow figures are in charge of all this junk right when this kicked off, me and my brother went to Sweden for two months. It's all over my Twitter, all of my

Instagram. I tried to inspire rebellion because Sweden for somehow, because the Swedes are pussies. I don't know how they pulled this off. Sweden and Belarus are the only two countries in the world that didn't enact lockdowns. For two months, I was running around Sweden in nightclubs with beautiful women. Two solid months, no masks, no lockdowns, no restrictions. This is at the height of the craziness, March last year. And everyone's watching what I'm doing and going, oh, Tate's crazy. I'm like, no, you're crazy for not doing what? Can't you see it's fine? I've taken the risk for you You've watched me for two months

I'm fine All these chicks are fine The woman in my bed Who I just woke up with is fine It's all fine What are you panicking for? And then they'll go Oh no I know someone who died

My friend's 98 year old grandma died Oh 98 year olds never used to die before corona Oh that's your proof That this is in the bag there I didn't know that She was going to live forever Old fucking grandma Janelle

People die It's just insane They have destroyed the lives Of young healthy people and destroyed economies under the guise of that they're saving lives when the average age of death of corona is higher than the average life expectancy it's incredible and people to this day still put their masks on you must have a mental disorder to be putting a mask on and when you ask me what do people do on the individual level if everyone did what i did it would be over in a week

i'm not even saying get arrested i'm not saying refuse to put a mask on all i'm saying is don't put it on unless you're asked imagine you're a security guard and every single person walks in has no mask excuse me excuse me please don't mask on please i ain't got one you've got one for me oh okay thanks next person excuse me excuse me how long are they gonna fucking two hours and they'll be like oh they'll give up and now they've given up then it's over right but everyone's such behaved little children let me put my mask on first i'll put a mask on sometimes but i'll make it hard i'll walk in excuse me excuse me i'll ignore them i'll make them chase me down the aisle do you have a mask no can you give me one oh uh oh i don't have one well if you don't have one i

don't have one look i have to go shopping my friend so please you must have a mask somewhere in the store make him go do a 15 minute search make him find one make him bring it to make him work don't give up why are you giving in slavery instantly make him do something and then it'll all be over with but everyone's just oh let me get my mask in advance and what do you say to the people who say you should wear the mask for uh preventing the spread of the virus i say a few things first things first is what's always amazing about this mask mandate i've always questioned this amongst people i can tell you you really hate it well i hate it because i it's destroyed my last faith in humanity i understand why the nazis or how the nazis managed to do what they did i understand now

how the nazis did the worst atrocities in human history because they said do this do this do this and people don't think people don't think people are ignoring their own eyes do you see a pandemic are the hospitals full do you see people dying do you even know anybody who's died stop saying the word pandemic you're listening to the news it's insane right so it does frustrate me it really does frustrate me so what was the original question in terms of uh the mask wearing the mask sorry yeah so why is wearing a mask such a big deal right it would just what do you say to the people who say hey sure there's personal uh freedoms and liberties but uh you putting the mask on prevents somebody else from getting sick if they have their mask on why do i need my mask

on this is genuine question when the mask mandates lift has corona gone away no it's still there nothing's changed do you think that we should be back to normal i think that if you wear a mask it's for one of two reasons you're scared of corona which is pathetic because there's bacteria everywhere there's germs everywhere there's no way to live your life you get sick you get sick that's unfortunate that's how the world works being scared of corona is pathetic option two you're not scared of corona you're scared of the government so it's option one you're a coward because you're scared of corona or option two you're not scared of corona you just comply knowing it's stupid making you a coward you're either an idiot or a coward every time you put a mask on you

can choose which one you want to be but you're an idiot or a coward you wear your mask if you're so worried about my mask why are you screaming in my face you're not scared of corona you're scared of fact that you comply. You've sacrificed your honor as an individual and I haven't. And I annoy you by existing because I show that I have bravery and balls. This Corona thing was the first time an absolute coward got to feel powerful. I feel like a real man because I put my, I put three masks on and a face mask. I'm a good person. Before that, to be a real man, you had to be a firefighter or go join the army. If you wanted some honor, you had to risk your life. Now, if you want honor, you have to be the biggest cuck in the world. And for that reason, they're

going to try and propagate it. They're going to try and propagate it. People hate seeing me win at life for the same reason. They hate seeing us win at life. They hate seeing a man without a mask. I will walk through your grocery store with no mask and I'll walk out and not catch Corona. And that bothers you because you have two vaccines and three masks on. It just upsets them. When you think about, uh, where the world's headed, what is the solution? Okay. That's a good question. And I can only find one solution. Okay. And this is kind of where I'm going to do a small plug but um i run an organization called the war room and the organization what is that it's a global organization which is based around preparing for the future of that we're going to

live in all the things i was saying to do i was saying to do pre-corona and they've been amazing during corona it's almost like i predicted corona itself you know when noah built the ark he was a crazy right-wing conspiracy theorist until it started to rain right now he's not crazy anymore and the ark was open for everybody it wasn't just the animals who said come get on my ark I've got the answer and they're like yeah crazy you're crazy bro till it starts to rain if corona isn't a little sprinkle of rain for you as an individual then you can turn off the podcast because then there's something wrong with you right so I run an organization which is primarily based around living off grid is no longer possible as an individual we all live on grid to some

degree so what I've done is I live on as many grids as possible so I have over seven passports I have over 15 driver's licenses. I have residencies in over 30 countries. I have banks in 40 countries, let's say, right? So the goal being that no one government controls my life. So during this Corona lockdown, I've gone to 16 countries. So I'd go to enter the Czech Republic, for example. I try and give my American passport. No, you're banned because of Corona. English, you're banned because of Corona. Estonian. Okay, you can come in. I'm the same guy. I'm the same person, right? I have Corona or I don't, but a different passport gets me in, right so this goes to show the only way to really try and achieve true freedom is firstly you need

to remove a single government's control over your life you need to be able to say you know what i'm gonna go to singapore i have a residency there and i have a singaporean bank account and i'm gonna sit there and if anyone has a trouble with me i'm just gonna turn my phone off and ignore their emails this is where i live now and they don't and they're not gonna extract me because i'm a resident unless you're on interpol's top 10 list they're probably not gonna what can they really do right the first thing you need to do is get more passports more residencies and it's not impossible it's just a headache but through ancestry most people watching this through ancestry can be i'm irish i'm this you can do it all right that's the first thing the second thing

you need to do is get rich and this is unfortunate but it's true it's about to be have nots and have yachts that's the world we're about to live in as things get polarized as inflation continues to go through the roof the people who own assets are going to get wealthy beyond belief and the people who own nothing are never going to stand a hope of ever acquiring an asset if you're in my position like I was, the reason I traveled to 17 countries during the strictest Corona lockdowns is because I had seven passports and private jets. I'll get in. I'll get in. I'll find out which passport works. I'll book a private jet. All the commercial flights are canceled. Doesn't matter to me. Boom. I land. So what do you do as an individual? You need either the war room or there's, we're a lot

deeper than that. I've given the very base view, right? Or you need to get a bunch of residencies, a bunch of passports, and you need to start preparing for the future because the future is based on enslavement. That's what it's based on. It's based on removing your freedoms under the guise of safety, telling you you're going to be safe, removing all your freedom as an individual to keep you believing the lies and paying taxes and being a good slave until you die. That's what they need you to do. They need you to pay taxes and die. They're not interested in anything else. And as long as people start to wake up, as people start to think more freely, they're going to do more and more extreme measures to keep us

in our place. And that's what's happening in real time. Corona at the beginning, I actually believe may have been semi genuinely intended. Oh, maybe it's a disease. Maybe it'll get out of control after a month from then on out. It was an experiment in control. That's all it was after about a month. They said, no, okay. No, one's really dying. Okay. How long can we keep these people in their house? Let's have a bet. You have a ruling family. I have a ruling family. Ah, they'll riot after a month. No, they won't. No, they won't. You know what? Let's really, let's really push the boat let's let the state next door open up fully and let's keep this state closed and pretend that a virus respects state lines and let's see let's see if they let's see

if they riot then oh it's been a month look they're still not rioting these people are idiots let's tell them to put two masks on why not let's put two on put two on it's a big joke it's a big joke to these people and everyone's still out here complying well people forget one of my favorite things is uh there are certain organizations that said don't wear masks and they changed there are certain organizations that said things like put a mask on while you have sex right i mean there's all kinds of stuff that was said that in hindsight i think people will look at and say uh that that doesn't make a lot of sense but at the time it was you know what was said to people from an authoritative uh organization but the reason people don't think and i've

analyzed this heavily during this corona year is i'm thinking why am i thinking about all of this and finding the obvious flaws and people are not thinking and the reason is because most people are happy to be a slave and are conditioned to slavery because they live a slave's life I'm a free man right I worked very very hard to get what I have I'm not super rich but I have more than 10 right I've got some money I can go where I want I can do what I want no one tells me what to do nobody tells what to do no one government can control me you can block my American passport right now because it's a podcast guarantee I get out guarantee right I when someone tries to take my freedom away it's a big deal but if you're Joe Schmo and your wife

yells at you and won't give you a blow job you work in Starbucks for basically pennies and your boss is telling you what to do all day when someone else tells you to do something put a mask on it's just like okay you're just a slave you just you've been a slave every aspect of your life is slavery every aspect of your life is semi-depressing anyway these people are conditioned to slavery they're conditioned to obey so they just obey people like me i'm a free man so when you try and take my freedom is a big deal most of these people have freedom they can't even use because they're too broke so they don't care if you ban travel they don't leave the country anyway right this is what's happening amongst a lot of people and these slaves are the same people who

are gonna you've seen the matrix right i haven't seen the matrix morpheus says it most people are so inherently dependent on the system they will fight to defend it that's exactly what's happening now you see the karens yelling about masks they are so dependent on the system they will do the work for them they will die to defend a system it's incredible and they really believe the system cares about them and that's why they need to wake up and learn something about everything from the ground up from the ground up why are you in miami good question i'm actually in miami for a war room event mentioning the war room so we got three big mansions there's like 55 guys from 33 countries and we met up and we were talking a lot of things including crypto funnily enough so yeah we're

talking a lot and crypto is actually just to go into crypto quickly crypto has fixed a lot of the problems i'm talking about crypto crypto is amazing for a bunch of things even inflation man people the inflation figure the government state if you believe that you then you believe in corona but that's a lie right it's a flat out lie think about how much a chocolate bar was 10 years ago look at the price now it's like four or five times more expensive in england i don't know about america but it's crazy right so that's one of the things it does it helps with the inflation aspect two you can actually control and own your money you can actually have your money right you don't how else you're gonna have it in cash and then you gotta deal with the inflation how difficult

is it to move serious cash i'm i had to send it's about four years ago i sent nine hundred thousand dollars to qatar for a completely legal reason why i had to buy one to buy a property in qatar so i was involved in the purchasing of a property in qatar do you believe the backflips the paperwork the legal nightmare i swear to god i was putting a travel list because for about a year after that i'll stop to every airport just just for a bank transfer right no problem with bitcoin no problem so it fixes a whole bunch of problems cryptocurrencies it certainly does i think a lot of people who are forward thinking and believe the things i believe in it's the only logical conclusion what else you're gonna trust a bank you trust them there's nothing else to do with it

i'm actually at the point where although i don't i do own quite a lot of property i don't want anymore and i keep getting offered nice property deals and tristan's like should we buy this it's like no i don't even trust the romanian government or the russian government i have property in moscow i don't even trust the government anymore i don't even want a property because if i piss the government off they're just gonna take it i don't own it they say you own it until you annoy the government then you don't own it right so i don't even want property anymore i'm going full crazy mr blockchain now because it's the only time i feel like i have control over things and we're losing control at such a rapid rate.

I'm trying to stay ahead of the curve. I don't believe people saying, oh, I'll just buy a house and it's my little house. It's not your little house. You'll see how quickly they'll take your little house from you. Look what they've done so far. They've taken your business from you.

You think they won't take your little house? People are not scared enough of the right things. They're scared of Corona. They should be scared of what the government did to them in the name of Corona. That's what they should be. But people aren't logical. People aren't logical.

People have low IQs. They're slaves and they're too busy, preoccupied with racism and all this other garbage to keep them split so they can't all get together for five seconds and start thinking, wait, this is bullshit.

You should run for president. Yeah, I'd probably have a shot. Would you win? Would I win? They wouldn't let me win. Why? Because they'd rig it. Imagine I had the influence, right,

somehow by some miracle and I try and run for president. Saying the things I say, you think the people in charge of the world are going to let me be president? I don't know. They would never let me be president because I have morals

and integrity as an individual and I wouldn't lock people in their houses for a year and a half for no reason. So no, the only people who are going to win political competitions are people with the friends in the right places. And the friends in the right places only want puppets. They don't want, for the same reason you won't hire a member of staff who's going to disagree with you every time you give an order, you're going to fire that member of staff. You're going to get a member of staff. When you say, do this, this, and this, they say, okay, set up for the podcast. Okay. If you said set up for the podcast, he said, no,

they just get fired, right? This is, this is how the political system works. They're not going to put anyone in power who's going to disagree with them. Why would they? So I don't stand a chance of running for president. And truthfully, I don't really have that much aspiration to run for president. My goals are for my war room network and for myself. I want to know that at any moment I can book a private jet, disappear to somewhere no one's ever heard of. And I have a bunch of money on a USB stick and a bunch of passports and a bunch of residencies. I like the idea of getting a passport in a country that no one's really concerned with changing my name legally in that country. So I now have a passport, which is perfectly legal, the different name on it.

I like doing all this stuff. This is my way of preparing for the world conquering, because I guarantee you, no matter what they do in the name of Corona or whatever else, you can check my Instagram stories. I'm having fun. I'm living. You can check me. I'll be in a club in Belarus, surrounded by big beauty cuties, guaranteed. I refuse to be a slave for anyone. You can tell me to stay in my house. I won't do it. In Romania, when they enacted the curfew, there's a curfew at 7 PM. First thing I did was get in the Lambo, start driving around, making Instagram stories. And all the, all the remaining girls would hit me up on Instagram. Like, Oh my God, it's a curfew. How are you out? The police can give you a fine. I'm like, no,

I find the police. They don't find me. I'm talking all this crap, right? I got like in the one week, I got like 11,000 euro fines. I haven't paid them. I refuse to pay them. Take me to court. That's I'm, I'm resisting on some level. I'm doing something. If everyone did what I did, it would be over, but I'm out there on the streets and they're empty. And I said to the cop, you know, I got stopped by cops five times. Only one gave me a fine of the other four cops. They were reasonable enough. I said, my friend, do you have more in common with me or with the people up there in their golden palace who are making these rules. Are you rich like them? You know they're stealing money. You know this country's corrupt. The roads have holes in them. Your pension went

missing. The police pension fund went missing. Do you have more in common with me as another man out here in the street or with these people in their golden gauge? They're just giving you the orders to enforce. Why can't you think for yourself? You know corona is not real. You think corona matters at 6.59 or 7 p.m.? Think. And four of them were like, you're right. Have fun. One, there's always one asshole. No Corona. And these are stupid. People are stupid. It's a miracle. It's a miracle how stupid humans are. I don't know what to say, but I've done my very best to resist this whole way through. I've done my very best. And one of the mechanisms, one of the moves I make to resist is involved in crypto. I think I put a tweet up. I don't know if you follow my Twitter

or you put it up. You remember the big Bitcoin crash, $5,400 at the beginning of this Corona thing. I'm in a really, really tanked. And everyone's saying it's over all this crap. i put a tweet up that i still retweet to this day saying you're all pussies bitcoin's coming back i think i said i'm buying six hundred thousand dollars today and you'll we can talk when it's a eight thousand i think i said that i've turned 600 grand to like 12 million dollars because i i had cash in a bank and when everything hit the fan the first thing i thought was i don't want cash i want something else give me an asset okay how can i get an asset that the government can't take bitcoin what else what's the other answer you tell me bro maybe you

know something i don't know is there anything else no look i i think that it's uh it's an interesting view for you to have because you have the united states you've got many european countries right you're half white you're half black you've lived all over the world right you've had success at multiple industries and so you just have a lot of experience right and so what it does is it gives a very different view of the world than somebody who uh has lived in one country who only has one type of industry expertise or experience, who only has one race, like all these different things. And so when you bring that all together, it is a perspective that I think in the United States is not talked about a lot, right? And there's a lot of political correctness and

kind of social pressures. At the same time, in many of these other countries, right, I think that there's just a different view, frankly, right, of the kind of entire way society is, you know, kind of tied together. And ultimately, I think most people who agree with either it's part of or all of what you just said, think technology is the answer, right? And technology is kind of the equalizer. It's the thing that allows for an imbalance of power to be essentially kind of handicapped at the knee, right? And to say, look, if everyone has access to the same technology, now all of a sudden you can really kind of even the playing field. And I think that, You know, you got to be pretty sick person to believe that that's not a good thing.

Oh, I completely agree. I mean, even the Internet on its most base level, forget all their censorship and fact checking, et cetera. The Internet is the only reason the propaganda machine has been broken for the Internet. They put some on the news. That was it. Right. It's the only way that the Internet as a whole has done very well to attack the propaganda

machine. There's still people who believe everything on CNN, but there's also a whole bunch of people who understand the news is fake. That's another good thing Trump did is he came out. He coined the term fake news, fake news. Before that, we're like, what do you mean the news is fake? Now everyone's kind of like, yeah, the news is half fake at least. right? So he did an amazing thing, right? Well, the whole thing is everyone believes the news

is fake. They just argue over whether it's their news or the other side's news, right? That's the other thing is if you notice, I recently saw there's a New York Times journalist who literally was saying, oh, you're posting, they were saying to a venture capitalist, oh, you're posting this super basically like right wing Fox News, blah, blah, blah, whatever. And if you go and you go and listen to the Fox News, people are like, oh, you're posting the super left-wing new york times cnn but whatever and so it's fascinating to see that uh essentially quote-unquote fake news has now become no it's just the the perspective that i disagree with yeah and and and we're all living in echo chambers and and yeah i mean i don't have the answer to to

a lot of this the only answer i've ever come up with is to be very very rich and be able to go wherever i want and and keep myself around people who think like me that's the only answer i've been able to come up with it's very difficult to save the world because if you were to try and save the world now you'd be dragging people kicking and screaming to their own freedom you'd have to drag people kicking and screaming to their own freedom take the mask off i don't want to you're allowed it's fine there's no corona it's fine look around you look florida's open why are you still wearing a mask in new york you don't need to on florida no one wears masks no corona corona you'd have to literally physically assault somebody to give him his freedom back like i'm not that philanthropic

i i really don't care that much right i care about me and the people close to me and the best way to do that is financial, which is the first thing. And the second thing is you need to try very, very hard to get beyond governmental controls. And I will say this about America. The American government is the most oppressive in the world, even for things like Bitcoin exchanges and all this stuff. They're on top of everything. Like if you have only American passport, they're the ones that are going to really stay on top of you. If you have a Romanian passport, you can sign up to any Bitcoin exchange. They don't care. They're behind. These countries are behind. A lot of countries in the world are behind, but America is the most advanced country in the world. So

If you have an American passport, the American tax authorities, et cetera, they're the most advanced. They're the ones that are going to hurt you the most. If you're living only with an American passport, you're living under the most oppressive regime, the number one. And it kind of amazes me because I am American and I do love Miami especially, but this is probably the only city in America I enjoy. It's the only one.

I can't name another one. I don't like LA. I don't like New York. Sorry, bro. And everything in between is boring. So I don't like the whole country as a whole. But it's kind of amazing to me that we're living in basically a police state, but it's the least safe police state in the world.

like dubai is a police state right everything's monitored it's a police state but it's so safe and so clean i i mean in dubai i wear a half a million dollar watch nobody cares i wear a half million dollar watch i don't look over my shoulder i'm not i'm not carrying a weapon i just live my life and the chance of something happening is zero you never see a car broken into it's so safe because the law has law and order but here we have law but we have a police state with no safety aspect at all and the reason for that is because i don't see what binds america together anymore we're not we're not binded by the basic things like on a basic evolutionary low iq gorilla level like color language all these things fine we're not but we're not even but we don't even love the

same flag we don't have the same ideologies like what is even keeping us together now it used to be well we're all different but we all love america not anymore half the people here hate america we hate its past hate everything it's done there's nothing about it i'm talking about romania being safe. The Romanian police drive dachas. They're like old Soviet cars. They couldn't drive it more than 60 miles an hour, but no one runs. Like you're talking about a country, you're talking about defund the police. Their police budget must be less than a week of a real American police budget, but nothing bad happens because there's family, there's morals, there's respect for the country, there's respect for the flag. They don't want to litter in their own country. Like all the

problems that we have can just be fixed by basic morality because people are united by one thing. I can't think what we're united by in the west anymore what are we united by nothing we're not united by the way we think literally nothing all we're united by perhaps is greed and often if you're greedy enough then you just find a way to step on other people so it's very difficult to find anything that's keeping America together I really believe not just America but a lot of other societies are broken on a fundamental level and they've got a bunch of sellotape on top which is an armed police force and I don't know how long over the long term we can survive and how we can perform when you have countries like china where they're like a beehive they all work together

all right okay we're more powerful now but for how long have you ever seen a chinese person working for someone who wasn't chinese yeah okay well i i've seen maybe one in my life really yeah well in the technology industry okay technology industry is gonna be probably loads i'll give you another example when i was in iraq i was staying in the hotel i can't remember what it's called it's in the it's in the middle it was bombed like three years before i was there it's the big one can't remember and i'm staying in this hotel full of chinese so many chinese in iraq and they all had blueprints and building plans and i said to the barman the barman was an african guy a black guy said why did you come to iraq he goes all the wages are higher i'm like

the wages are higher in iraq where are you from it's an ivory coast somewhere anyway he said yeah the chinese are here because they have to rebuild everything i was like are you telling me we spent all that money blowing this place up and now the chinese are just going to rebuild it and get paid that's what's happening because we won't do it because of human rights sanctions all this crap we just want to blow stuff up right but now they're getting paid trillions to just rebuild all the chinese and it was kind of funny we were in a kebab store and we could hear an ak far in the distance i mean tristan were like and all the chinese people around us didn't even bat an eyelid they're like they're like they're like ants bro they're just like oh whatever but i die i got

work tomorrow they don't even care right they're so united as a people and everything's done for and I'm not saying the Chinese government's fantastic. In fact, it's the opposite. I'm just trying to talk about on a purely competitive, from a purely competitive perspective, which country is going to be more competitive, people which are united by something or people which are completely broken and divided on every level. And I just think over the next hundred years, I don't see how America can compete. I don't see how it can compete. And then you have real problems because when America loses its economic prosperity, then you're going to have to revert to the things like morality, which it has none of. Romania has no economic prosperity, but they

have morality. It's the most Christian country in the world. 99.9% Orthodox Christian. I've been on dates with 27 year old women who have to be at 10, be home at 10 o'clock because their father said so. Like their families stick together. They have no social welfare programs, no disabled people programs, nothing. It's the family look after them, but there's no old people home. Family looks after them. All these things we have in the West, they have none of it. It's just family. Family takes care of all those problems. I've never seen in my five years in Romania, a drunk girl. They drink and they have fun. You'll never see one stumbling. You'll never see one fall over. You know why? Because it brings shame on the family and people will talk and her father will

kick her ass. So they won't do it. They have morality. They have a base level of morality, which means their police force can be run on a fraction of a budget and the country can be basically bankrupt. It's broke. It's a poor country, right? They say it's poor. There's plenty of money there. You know, the wealth divide, there's plenty of Lambos over the place, but when America loses its economic prosperity, what morality are we going to fall back on? If the police force couldn't turn up to police calls, it would be over. And nearly every city in America is just instant purge. We no longer have morality to fall back on. And I kind of find it amazing that a lot of the conservatives, and I'm going to say this now, I pretend I'm pro-Trump.

I was very disappointed in Trump as a man. He should have gone much harder. He didn't do anything. He really didn't get much done. But a lot of conservatives believe Trump's going to save us. Trump's going to save us. Well, now you've seen they're going to rig every election. You're never going to get a good president again. Now what's your hope for America? I don't know. If I had to bet on countries like I was betting on cryptos across the next 200 years, I'd be buying China coin i would not be buying the usa coin i just see it on the way down that's all i see and that for that reason is one of the reasons i don't live here i won't buy property here i don't see this place being livable across the next hundred years sorry to be pessimistic but uh that's my how long

do you think you'll live i'm temporarily immortal i've yet to die i've not died once i've never died in my whole life so why do i have to believe it's going to happen it's probability probably going to happen, but I don't approach life that way, right? The rule one of life is do not die. That's the first rule of life. I've been in some situations in my life where I had to remind myself of rule one, no matter what it takes, do not die. How long do I think I'll live? I don't know. But I'll tell you one thing, and I'm very, very conscious of this. And a lot of people don't do this, but I am absolutely conscious of this. I enjoy every day of my life. I really do. And I know everyone says this, but I actually do. And that doesn't mean being stupid or irresponsible. It means enjoy

everything. Enjoy the sunshine through the window as you sit in traffic. I enjoy every single day I'm alive because there's a whole, I've been to a lot of places. I've seen a lot of things. You know what I'm talking about, where people would do anything to be you. And I, sometimes I look at, especially the Western world and everyone's depressed or on medication or all this crazy stuff. And I just think a bad day is coming for all of us, right? For all of us in our future, there's a hundred percent probability that either we're going to die or someone we love is going to die. So a bad day is coming. You will have a reason to be upset soon enough. That's a fact. why are you doing it in advance like nothing nothing's wrong today oh well you're a flat

tire boo-hoo like like people are so emotionally reactive to low-level stuff I don't get that I've never been that person but yeah I don't know how long I'll live but I know that I'm gonna enjoy myself every single second and if someone tells me to stay in my house because of a virus I'm not gonna comply because I ain't got time I'm alive once I do not have time for that and I refuse to comply on that level I don't know why no one else thinks like this everyone's just like oh I've got two years to waste no problem it's crazy i got three questions for you that you get to ask me when to finish up okay amazing first one what's the most important book you've ever read you know what's interesting i've only read two books in my whole life only two in my life i'm not a reader

okay i've never every single what are the two books every single thing i think i know i've learned through experience and conversations i read two books because i was in a jail cell and they gave me books. So I was arrested. It wasn't this. I was about 24. I'll tell you the story. Why not? I'm in England. The English people are the most violent people in the world. Like they conquered the entire earth. They had the largest empire in history. English people are innately violent. People think like England. Oh yeah. Everyone's in suits. Little gentlemen, go to England, right? London's like stabbing capital of the world. Like it's a very violent place. And the English people will fight you over nothing. They're not friendly or polite.

they're very violent especially when they drink I'm at a club I bought a brand new phone some girl knocked the phone out of my hand I thought to myself I said hey

you knocked my phone out of my hand she turns around and goes I don't care it's not my phone and I start running her mouth so I'm arguing with this girl and then her boyfriend comes over and then her boyfriend's like

hey what's the problem I was like well she knocked my phone out of my hand I was trying to tell her hey what's the problem then his two friends come over now there's three of them and I'm up against the bar

and then one of them pushes me so I smack him so I smack one smack the other one two are out the other guy grabs me we start wrestling a bit And while I'm wrestling with one of the guys, the girl, because she's English, starts trying to hit me, right?

So I didn't know if it was a girl or a guy. So I'm doing this. I turn and whack, and I smack her. I spark her, right? So I ended up in a court for GBH against a female and grievous bodily harm, and I broke her jaw and all this stuff. And my defense was I didn't know who was hitting me. I'm just getting hit. I don't know.

Watch the CCTV. I don't know. But anyway, I got away with it in the end. No, I don't got away with it. I was innocent. They found me innocent in the end. But anyway, the point was I was in a jail cell, and they gave me two books. and I can't even remember one of them.

And one of them was about, I'd love, this is a challenge for the podcast. Can we give the podcast a challenge? Sure. Guys, in the comments, if you can find the name of this book, I would be really happy. It was extremely disappointing.

It was about a UN negotiator, a female who lived in New York City, who was a UN negotiator, who was fired from being a UN negotiator because she made a terrible mistake. And they talk about this terrible mistake for the first 75% of the book, even though that the UN have now come back

and need her back because she's the best negotiator, but she can't be officially on the books as a negotiator because of the terrible mistake. And she's like behind the scenes trying to negotiate. And it turns out the terrible mistake was she was negotiating peace between these two tribes in Africa and then slept with the tribal leader of one of the tribes. So I'm reading this book for like seven hours. I get to the end.

I go, so you're a doctorate from New York, UN negotiator who went to Africa to negotiate peace. And I'm getting slammed by a warlord who doesn't even speak English. You're a hoe. You're just a hoe. Who would do that? Who would sleep with this war? he's killed millions of he's killed people he's a warrior he's not gonna be charming is it a true

story i don't know what it is i don't know but he's not gonna be charming is he i can't imagine him having game so she was a hoe and annoyed me and i closed the book that's the answer that's the answer i got annoyed by her thaltery i thought this is disgusting you need to go to church and repent i won't read this book anymore that's the only book i've ever read all right second question you asked bro i'm just telling you sleep i used to only sleep five or six hours okay then i started sleeping on this eight sleep mattress right which is basically they just make it cold as shit okay when you lay on it and you sleep deeper and now i sleep like eight nine hours okay life changing okay how much do you sleep firstly i want one of these mattresses okay okay please give me the link

i can intro you to uh to mateo the ceo he'll he'll gladly give you amazing i'd love i'd love one of these mattresses we'll see if we can get it to romania so that's the first thing i'd love one of these how often how much do i sleep um i think i sleep like maybe six seven hours a day i'm not a big sleeper i'm definitely not a big sleeper i well you know when you're a child and you don't go to bed until you're really tired but when you're an adult you go to bed because you know you have to do things the next day i try and avoid that i try and avoid the latter i try and go to bed when i'm genuinely tired i don't think oh tomorrow i have a busy day better go to bed loads of adults go to bed when they're not tired it's just a certain time i don't give myself a bedtime

time. Even if I have to be up again at 6 a.m. the next morning, if I'm not tired at 3 a.m., I'll just stay up. What's the worst case that happens? Tomorrow I live a life tired. Who cares? Then I get a good night's sleep the day after that. So my relationship with sleep is very good because I don't sleep until I'm actually exhausted. Even since I've been here, I mean, the two days it took me to get here, me and Tristan were drinking the whole time. We were drinking and then we landed and we had work to do. I mean, technically I'm jet lagged. It's nine in the morning in my time or something stupid, but I don't believe until I'm exhausted, I'm awake and that's it. But I want one of these mattresses. I'd like one.

All right, third question. Aliens, are you a believer or a non-believer? You have to be a believer. How can you not believe there's nothing else out there but our pathetic species? We're losers. We're idiots. We're arguing over the color of skin.

Look how pathetic that is. Imagine being an alien race. They're still arguing over the color of skin. Still, the whole space needs exploring. They still got masks on. Like, come on, like we're losers. If we are the best that the universe can produce, it's not even worth having.

There's nothing impressive about humanity. There's got to be something better than us out there where they can see beyond skin color and, and, and, and masks there's gotta be, you could ask, you could ask me one question. What's the one question you have for me? What's the one thing I've said today you disagree with most? The one thing you said today that I disagree with most, I'm going to give you a better answer than that.

I don't think it's so much, uh, one thing that you said that I disagree with most as much as it's, uh, I think that there's truth in every single thing that you've said, the way you deliver it is very bombastic right and uh attention grabbing which i'm assuming is very intentional uh and uh in order to be attention grabbing and and um uh kind of bombastic you have to take a truth and exaggerate right in terms of remove the nuance if of course and so if there's directionally something like uh the world would be better off if we didn't focus on um race and instead could remove racism from a conversation and simply all live as humans. I think most people would generally agree with that. When you remove all nuance from it, right? Everyone pays attention,

yells and screams. And some people will say, I agree with him. And some people say, I disagree with him. And so life goes on. I like that answer. You're a very smart man. You're a very smart man. You're a very smart man. All right. Where can we send people to find you on the internet? Right. So I'm on Twitter, but I'm on my ninth account. So how long will I last? Who? Nobody knows um uh for some reason they seem to think i provoke people i don't know where they got this impression from um so the best places to follow me are on instagram uh cobra tate on instagram you can see me flexing on the broke boys you know doing you know you know that's what it's all about right so it's it's a bunch of diamond watches and fancy cars and the odd bit corona conspiracy

thrown in and then i have the website cobra tate.com and on cobra tate.com that gives details my war room network and where i say what i really think we have some information and stuff on there So Cobra tape.com is the best place to find me. If you find me interesting or that's where I am. Awesome. You made it through the entire interview with the sunglasses on. I appreciate you very much. I told you I was bringing the fire,

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