The Pomp Podcast - #1083 We’re Living In A Clown World | Layah Heilpern

Episode Date: August 31, 2022

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What's up, everyone? This is Anthony Pompliano. Most of you know me as Pomp. You're listening to the Pomp Podcast, simply the best podcast out there. Now let's kick this thing off. Leah Heilpern is an author, content creator, and speaker. In this conversation, we talk about the war on men, how feminism is a scam, lockdowns, wokeness, Bitcoin, the government controlling and keeping people weak and compliant, and what you need to know about free speech Andrew Tate and exactly what's going on with various governments, society and politics around the world. I really enjoyed this conversation and I hope that you enjoy it as well. Before we get into this episode though, make sure that you go and you leave a comment on YouTube or go ahead

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but only as an expression of his personal opinion. This podcast is for informational purposes only. All right, guys, bang, bang. I've got Leah here. I'm super excited about this. I thought a great place to start would be a war on men and feminism is a scam, which I've heard you say multiple times. Uh, what exactly does that mean?

Well, firstly, thanks for having me. Super excited to be here. Um, yeah, I mean, I think there's a massive war on masculinity right now, but I think it's a war which has been going on for a very long time. I mean, you only need to look at like media headlines, for example, they say if a man wants to be fit and strong, um, he's suddenly right wing. Um, I've seen that everywhere. Um, they talk about, um, you know, gym bros being dumb and all this stuff. Um, you know, you're also now sort of encouraging men to um to cry and to do all these emotional things um you know and I think it's both genders to be honest I think they're trying to masculine make women more masculine and make men more feminine um and there are many different reasons why this might

be and we can get into that but it's so toxic you know if a man is brave and strong suddenly that's toxic masculinity if a man um wants to you know provide for his family and he's gone every day or whatever it is that's toxic masculinity um but what I find really fascinating about the entire thing is the fact that when it comes to equality and wanting you know both wanting quotas to get um equal amount of men and women in whatever kind of workspace there is you never hear anything about um you know plumbers builders no you don't want more female builders never hear that it's always we need more um you know more women in and all this stuff so there's I mean you must feel it as a man you must feel like you know there are certain things in certain

places in the states that you're sort of like not allowed to behave in a certain way i don't know do you ever feel that way i always go to uh just like personal experience and the one area that uh was taboo for a really long time for people to talk about and all the stuff and then like now somehow it's coming to the conversation is the military and so like in the infantry uh for the longest time there was no women in the infantry and the thought process was like one uh just like really close quarters there's like a lot of uh interpersonal things you can imagine if soldiers are on the battlefield uh you know and there's men and women and uh in these kind of like high combat areas and stuff like it throws off a lot of the cohesiveness of the unit not necessarily for

good or bad it's just it's different uh two though and like where i've always thought about it is like if i was on the battlefield and i've got i don't know 60 70 80 100 pounds of gear on there are not very many women if any woman who at the time when i got deployed i think i was like 200 pounds 195 pounds she's talking about 300 pounds are they gonna pick me up and put me on their shoulder and carry me off if i'm wounded yeah exactly by the way there wasn't a shit ton of men who could do it either there were some but guess what they had to do is then they had to drag they had to do like all these different things and so like you start to understand like okay to your point about like plumbers or like physical labor or whatever like i haven't seen

a lot of conversation around let's get more women to go to the oil fields and like move the machinery don't want to because like they pick and choose what suits them which also like leads on to the whole feminism topic and we can get to that but you had obviously andrew tate recently on your show and andrew talks about a lot of harsh realities which i think are so important i know this is really harsh what i'm going to say but it's a truth which i've sort of learned by being on the internet too long um but there's this this idea that as a man no woman other than your mother is going to love you unconditionally. And that is what Andrew talks about. That's what like the red pill space talks about. And that is so powerful. So it means, okay, as a man, how do you get a

woman to love you? How do you get society to respect you? You literally need to become women can just be men have to become. So you have to make money. It's not all about money, but it's about status. It's always about status, unfortunately, or whatever. So if we look at men in general, right, uh, let's use the United States as kind of this example, like what is in your mind, uh society's vision of like the perfect man right like what does that look like today in today's society it's a good question because i think today's society we have a lot of like femme centric systems whether it's like the education system um the judiciary system they're all femme centered so what does that mean femme centered it means that it's women who are raising men

or like teaching boys so you have more um more female teachers in schools and they say to boys it's okay to cry it's okay to this you know they're not teaching them mental resilience and and how to become a strong man how to become a strong adult um you know the judiciary system if for if a man and a woman are together they're married and um you know say she cheats or whatever it is they get divorced she gets half his money and the kids you know it's very femme centric um and so it's the woman that's in charge we keep talking about like um you know the patriarchy the patriarchy is dead we live in a matriarchy whereby men i think get the brunt of everything i don't think even marriage is a good deal for men either why not for what i just said

because of the judiciary system um because like basically in the in the downside case the men get screwed exactly exactly whereas a woman is always going to be safe and also we have to consider how men and women are viewed in society again we we talk about this so-called patriarchy but it's women who are valued more than men we want equality but like what does equality even mean I think women are intrinsically valued on a higher level to men because it's the women and the children that are always protected first it's the men that are sent off to war it's the men that are more disposable as a man like I said you have to become and a woman can just be so it's like society doesn't care about you until you become something um and nobody wants to talk about that

And I think we should talk about it. The reason we should talk about it is because I think the dynamics between men and women would just be better. Like I think that, um, with the correct, with healthy masculinity, um, femininity can, can thrive in that kind of space. And if we stop men from being masculine and we stop women from being feminine, the genders just melt into each other and it becomes a mess and there's a lot of toxicity. And so nobody wants to talk about the fact that men are disposable in this world.

Well, there's obviously the old like phrase, you know, hard times make strong men and kind of goes the whole thing. And eventually what you get is good times and then good times make weak men and weak men make hard times. And so when we think about that, is that just like a natural cycle that we've seen throughout civilizations? Or is this something new where American society is taking the idea of what it is to be a man and changing it? Or have we seen in the past after the Roman Empire fell? Like, was there some point in time where, uh, no men were supposed to cry and do all these different things because it was no longer about, uh, kind of the dominance of, of, uh, kind of ancient Rome, or is this something that you think is brand new?

I think there's two pivotal parts in modern day. I mean, I'm only in my twenties, so I can't think too far back, but let's just take the sixties, right? The sixties is an, is an amazing example because that was basically the liberation of women. Um, that's basically when women didn't need men, right? it's it's feminism because feminism empowers women um what is feminism which wave I don't know you tell me feminism ultimately if you speak to a feminist she's gonna say oh it's about the equality of men and women I don't think it is anymore it's about the woman's right to choose her own destiny

and I think that's I think that's important I think that's great um you know I clearly have my own career or whatever but that's because I believe in individual empowerment I think everybody should be empowered to save themselves. As a woman, you shouldn't rely on a husband, you shouldn't rely on the government, you shouldn't rely on daddy, whatever you need to be empowered, because you don't know what's coming tomorrow, right? What if your husband dies? What if you're dead? You know, whatever. And so that's essential. But we're now at a point whereby feminism, I think has gone too far. So, you know, if you hold the door for a man, sorry, if a man holds the door for you what are you doing I can hold my own door um and and like these these things are so

integrated into society I'm from London and when I was 21 I used to work as a journalist and I carried all this heavy equipment by myself on the London underground up and down the stairs not one man ever offered to help me because he was I could see it they looked at me but then should I should I not should I I'm like yes help me I'm a little woman it's okay I'm not offended right um but they never did because they were afraid that they would offend me um and so I think feminism has gone too far it's now rejecting um the feminine they're trying to say well you know what is it why is why is soft and nurturing feminine because it is and that's okay um so I feel like they are rejecting that um and we sort of spoke about this earlier but there's like this

pendulum that's going on and I think we've gone way too far one way um and now the likes of like andrew tay and you know this kind of content are pushing people the other way and making people more comfortable about talking about these things i also think the reason why i'm so vocal about this some people say to me oh you're doing it for clicks you're doing it because it's a really good niche it's not true like i want to get married like i'm single i want to get married and i want to find um a masculine man you know and that's and and so that's hard because there aren't so many masculine men left because they don't know how to be because of the femme centric systems that we spoke about um you know it's okay to cry it's okay to that like the fact of the matter is

your wife doesn't want to see you cry she doesn't want to see you struggle she all she wants is safety and that's it so if you're looking weak that's gonna worry her and so the respect for you declines and again people don't like this reality but i think these conversations are really important i think that how much of this is just society is getting softer because of the good times uh versus it's like a specific male thing it's a I think it's it's both parts so a lot of people would say that um western society peaked in the 90s um and then after 9-11 and you know all the surveillance came in and everything like that that's sort of where it went downhill um and I can see that as well I can see that with my own family my own parents like

they had this idea that you know if you work a good job and um you know you get your good grades you get a good job and you work your way up and you know you work for the man then you know you're you're going to have a nice um retirement to come back to and all of that and i think now is the first time we saw that really truly play out in the 20th century right in modern day times we saw that really truly play out and now we're sort of realizing that actually that's not the case and so it's the realization that you need more you need a backup plan i can't remember your first question what was your first question when you think about society in general right it's very obvious that males are being pushed to be softer in whatever way you want to measure that uh and

to some degree people who are pushing back on that um we can argue over the last five years they probably were getting uh uh kind of shunned by society hey what are you talking about a lot of the labels come out that people start to use to try to put them in a box so that other folks won't listen to them or whatever. But also I think that it's bigger than just male, right? I think that in general society has gotten much, much softer. And I always talk about like, there's like a mental toughness crisis in America of just like, shut up and deal with the problems. And that's not a man saying that. It's not a woman saying that. That's just like how the world works. And what you do see is in many great societies uh they go through this uh kind of rise of the empire uh

the good times are really fucking good they're amazing people absolutely love them but it does cause a lot of problems and then naturally there's a decline of the empire we've seen this time and time again in history and it's hard this is not just in countries like this is also true of companies right i always talk about the fact that like bill gates used to be you know the pirate in the garage. Like Bill Gates is going to take down, you know, IBM or whoever. And he, and he's the renegade. Now Bill Gates is the man. He is literally the institution. Right. And so like, if you live long enough, you move from the like incumbent or I'm sorry, from the disruptor to the incumbent. And so like countries do this, companies do this, but like also to some degree, like how

many people are kind of renegades as individuals who make big, bold bets, who are willing to dream and have the courage and conviction to take risk and do all this stuff when they're young and still at the age of 60 are doing the same thing. Like even humans themselves, you grow way more risk averse. You lose some of the kind of mental flexibility or intellectual flexibility you have.

And like, that is just the nature of kind of how the world works. We actually celebritize people who don't. Like Elon Musk sold a company, took all the money and just like put it on black basically. So I'm a better myself. I'm gonna go and invest in these three companies and maybe I go broke.

yeah he's not supposed to do that like society says like that was dumb now he looks pretty smart but like for the most part a lot of people still even though knowing that it worked think that that's insane and that's why those stories go viral or or get celebrated but you're like maybe that is the way that the world should work is that people should have more boldness to them and have the courage to take more risk yeah but they wouldn't teach you that so you're asking me you know is this just a man thing or a woman thing i think it's a system thing so the 90s was the peak and then everything kind of sort of came crashing down um and i think there's a greater agenda at play here which is in charge of all of this what's the agenda the agenda is control

it's always control it's power and that's it um and you know why would they teach you to be an entrepreneur they don't want you to be an elon musk they hate elon musk why do they hate him they're obsessed with this esg narrative and yet he's literally doing tesla cars how does that make sense. He's literally trying to improve the human life by extending it to another planet and all this. And they don't like him. He paid the most taxes and that's still not enough. Why? Because he is an example that you can achieve and you can do more and you can be better. He also has multiple women and multiple children because he can, right? Unethical, not ethical. It doesn't really matter as long as everybody involved knows the case and is

and is consensual and everything's fine, then whatever. But ultimately, why would they teach you to take more risk? It doesn't make sense. But I do think with everything that's going on in the world right now, COVID and everything like that, we've sort of realized that actually this idea that we had in the 20th century, whereby, you know, have a nice safety net, everything's going to be okay, actually isn't the best plan, which is why I love Bitcoin, because I'm like, well, that's my safety net. Like that's, that's my, that's my rainy day. You know, when if I don't want to put an injection inside my body and I want to protest like the truck is in Canada, I don't have to worry about my money being confiscated because I hold Bitcoin. That's where like my interest in Bitcoin comes from. I feel like it's that safety.

It's it allows me to be sovereign, whether I need to flee a country because of a lockdown and whatever it is. You know, I'm obviously here, not in London anymore. That was very easy for me because, you know, my Bitcoin is just just wherever it is and I can just move that. um so i think that with everything going on in the world right now covid vaccines the war on masculinity feminism going crazy rejecting whatever it means to be um soft and feminine has woken people up and has pushed them completely the other way and i'm really excited and i think as well like back in 2000 and was it 15 when trump won the election people didn't expect him to win and i was in university at the time and my lecturer um who was just a very typical um you know professor lefty and all this i said to her trump's gonna win and she was like oh no he won't

absolutely not laughing at me very posh aristocrat kind of yeah um and i said you'll see you'll see and of course he won because people are fed up people are tired um and that's why i'm so excited about bitcoin like i don't care about the price i just know that this is a way for people to opt out of all this bullshit which is only going to get worse i mean 2030 you'll have what is it you'll owe nothing and be happy what the hell is that like how do you like how do you how do you sit still and just be like oh okay i'll owe nothing and be happy i think a lot about uh the difference between like i call it like the boardroom or the street right so and the boardroom is really just a way to describe like the mainstream talking points the institutions like all the things that

are associated with people wearing suits and ties to work doing what they're supposed to do work at a company for 40 years like all of these things that our grandparents or parents probably did because there was really no other option they didn't know that um and they just kind of passed along and that's just what people were supposed to do but then like the streets or the street knowledge it's really the internet now yeah and uh there's a whole collection of people and it's growing bigger and bigger every single day who are like this is insane like what is going on there's literally an account on twitter clown world that has like 250,000 followers that grew in I don't know a year or so and all it uses is two emojis it uses a clown face and it uses a

world emoji and it just retweets things that other people are putting out in the world and just says this is insane it says with two emojis and it's like how powerful of an idea to simply just like put a mirror up to the insanity and just say to everyone like this this is what you guys agree with and so when you start to look at this what going to this like pendulum idea it used to be uh very much kind of on uh hyper masculinity um a very self-sovereign type approach uh families had a very uh kind of nuclear basis and were very interested in what they were supposed to uh do and how that worked it swung completely in the other direction and uh you can argue that many times it swung not because there was like some evil secret plan i think a lot of times

people just hey there's a problem and like we want to try to address the problem it was good intentions but the pendulum swung pretty far and you can look at the safety in cities you can look at family uh kind of dynamics you can look at all these different things but to your point it feels like it's coming back and now people are like this is fucking insane and one of the things that i use as a proxy for this is when i see things go viral what's the message because the something that goes viral really only goes viral for one or two reasons either everyone's like yes this like like this i resonate with this like uh is something that i agree with or oh my god look how crazy this person is like this is insanity whatever in both of those cases now like i've actually seen

over the last i don't know six weeks eight weeks multiple videos of women saying a lot of what you're saying in terms of like the uh kind of feminist movement is like dumb essentially i didn't see that two years ago and so it does feel like there's like this pendulum swinging but like what was the catalyst? Why do you think the pendulum is now swinging back in the other direction? I think it's because we've given people enough time. Like we tried it. We tried the left wing thing. We tried women dying their hair blue, not shaving their armpits. Did it get them a high value man? No, it didn't. Um, and then also as more people grow up, they start to come into themselves more. Right. So like I'm in my mid twenties when I was 19, 20, I was like a real

tomboy like I was quite masculine like I loved wrestling and things like that as I grow up I become more feminine and I I enjoy more feminine things like you'll not see me in like trousers nowadays like I don't like that I want to wear dresses like I you just feel it within you right and it's just a feeling and you just want to reject what they're trying to do to you um whether it's you know cut your hair short dye your hair blue piercings like it just doesn't work and the older you get the more you learn more about yourself and different situations that you prefer um and that sort of I think it just takes time like we try we tried the other way women aren't happy we're seeing women who are you know amazing in their careers but they're single in

their 30s it's not really happiness like I know as a matter of fact if I like I would rather and I'm going to say this here. I would rather be so happily married and satisfied in a marriage than be the best CEO, the best whatever it is, because I know that it doesn't work. That's not where happiness comes from. And the older I get, the more I understand that as a woman. And I think a lot of women are understanding that too. And it's also because it went so far the other way. And so girls are like, I can't, I don't resonate with that. What do you mean you don't shave your armpits why wouldn't you shave your armpits you know they don't resonate with that um is that is that what the conversation that girls have with each other is like do you

shave your armpits around not really no but it's like but it's but well actually i used when i was working in london as a journalist i was working with this girl i was 21 she was 25 at the time um and she said to me she doesn't shave her armpits and i was like i was like why she said i want to just reject it i'm like what would you mean reject it like there's so why is that the thing like there's a lot of other things that because it's okay for a man to be hairy but it's not okay for a woman to be hairy and why why is femininity why is a woman valuable if she's soft like a baby you know isn't that isn't that disgusting isn't that like pedophilia like you know so it's the same as like men liking younger women why she looks like a baby that

must mean men are evil they don't like mature older women who are actual adults it's all rubbish because we understand why men like younger women and why women date older men but you also mentioned the clown world thing which i just want to touch on you said there might be because of the pendulum but i actually think it's more sinister than that okay um the drag queen story hour thing is so messed up i really really believe that like the powers that be whether it's you know biden the administration all these things that they're supporting um i think they're doing it for a bad reason i don't know what that reason is i imagine it's probably to destabilize society destabilize the dynamics between men and women so we don't have that nuclear family anymore so

children grow up unstable and unable to fight whatever's coming that's my arch my overall view but it's so sinister how like how on what planet can you justify drag queens twerking in front of children i saw a video of a drag queen on stage um somewhere in america inviting a child she looked at least 10 years old to come up on stage and twerk with her how are people clapping in what's in what world is that even okay gay pride has totally been um hijacked and totally destroyed i have so many gay friends and they don't resonate with it they're bitcoiners as well well because lgbtqqqqq plus plus plus plus whatever it is is all uh the gay pride is just men walking down streets half naked in bondage whipping each other's bums while there's children

there how does a gay person resonate with that only somebody that's messed up in the head would think yeah that's okay to do that in public in front of children and so the whole lgbt thing has been totally hijacked and has been given the green light by the powers that be i can't remember who maybe it was like uh was it eric adams or somebody probably eric adams who said something really positive about like drag queens and children the other day and i'm like are you insane yeah he uh he's been a big disappointment i mean that was obvious though across a couple of different, uh, uh, aspects, the, uh, um, talk about hoodwinking a lot of people. Um, and I've seen a lot of folks who are very positive and very supportive of him publicly, uh, not so much

anymore, but they, uh, they don't have the courage to come out and say it. So they kind of stay behind closed doors. Um, but, but the whole thing with the drag Queens going into school, I have a nine month old daughter. If she was in school, I don't even have to talk to my wife. Like 100%, she's getting pulled out of school. If she's going to school and there's drag, uh, if there's twerking going on stage like yeah just like stop fucking with the kids is kind of the way i think about it um but it's not just that it's also this idea of like i then extrapolated out and i'm like okay if my daughter was 24 years old and she was like hey i'm gonna bring my boyfriend home and she walked through the door and there was like some soft ass like fuck boy i would literally

tell you i'm gonna whoop this kid's ass right like i mean that's just and again people can get mad whatever but like that is the whole idea of like uh i think it's actually the exact same thing that i would uh look at it from if i had a son and he brought home a girlfriend i would be like yo you have like a woman who isn't like a strong woman who's going to be a good partner for you in life i'd be like hey man we gotta we gotta you know go on to the next one here right like like decision making it doesn't look so strong and it's why i always go back to like i actually think the number one thing you could teach kids is just like to be a good decision maker. You're never going to be able to like, okay, here's every single decision you're possibly going to have to make. Let me tell

you all the right moves. Like that's not how life works. But if you can just teach them when you're faced with a decision, like here's how to think from first principles, here's how to think critically, here's how to think independently. Like you kind of go through it. You can then put them in all these situations, whether it's something in their personal life and their professional life, whatever. And you're like, they're at least armed with the skills to like navigate the world with a higher probability of success and they are likely to avoid the really bad decisions and that feels to me like as a parent if you can do that then like you at least set your kid up for success doesn't guarantee but like you're much better off than like let me just

give them to the state essentially and let the state just like i don't know teach them all kinds of crazy shit but that's what's going on in america more so in than in the uk and i don't know enough about this but i know there's like this push and pull between parents and teachers and how much control they have um and it's really bizarre like that's also why feminism okay so just to backtrack just a little bit it's also why feminism even exists in the first place like i believe feminism was created by men by the men at the top because they wanted to have a 50 of the population that they could tax so they could make more money um and then also like i said destabilize the family unit so they want women out of the home into the career into the workplace so now the women are

sorry the children are left to who's going to take care of them the state easier to indoctrinate easier to brainwash um and only looking back now at my childhood do I see the indoctrination that I experienced um in schools like without getting too too into it but like I come from a certain culture and um and I realized now in hindsight I'm like oh wow they were really trying to make us look at look at that situation in that certain way it wasn't until i i was in my 20s that i experienced a lot more and i was like oh i actually don't agree with that oh wow that's that's not true it's like a religious thing or yeah religious and cultural yeah yeah you know they want you to support certain ideas and they really shove that down your throat as a child um it's why all these

ideas are shoved down your throat as a child but that's not new right like like take religion as one example i mean you can go all the way back and like there was no separation of state and and god right like literally religion and state were the same thing and so like that was the dominant viewpoint there's obviously been a decline in kind of religious participation in the united states and globally to some degree as well but uh i do wonder like how much of that is just being replaced by like the modern religion which we can talk about you know is wokeness of religion as an example yeah i think religion was good like i think um all wars wars are always going to happen people are always going to hate each other religion is just a scapegoat i think

um like i was brought up jewish and i i love judaism like it's given me the best family values it stabilized me it's given me like heritage and purpose and you know it's great i think religion is great um i love christians i love the christians in america they have very amazing. They're very rooted. They have great values. I get on with them very well. And so religion gives people purpose. It gives people good values. When you remove the religion, what is there? Where does your hope come from when life is tough? You don't have anyone to pray to. You don't have anything to ground you. And so that's where I think like the victim mentality and the wokeness started to come from, because it's like, what else are we going to need? Like

we need something to fulfill our minds because, you know, good times create hard, good men or whatever. Yeah. So because times were so easy and there was a lack of religion, people's brains started to wonder. It's what we do. We have to create problems. It's just how the mind works if it's bored. And I literally think wokeness was born out of boredom and entitlement and an easy time, which is why I think people, that's why we have social justice warriors, right? Because they need something to feel good about because, you know, they're not being a good Jew or they're not being a good Christian or whatever, Muslim or whatever, because, you know, they don't have any religions. They have nothing to devote their life to. You know, family values are just gone

now. So they don't have that really to to ground them. So all they have is this crisis that's going on. And of course, they're lazy as well, because schools don't teach you how to be better. So they don't really have like a career or anything. So they're just bored and looking for the next thing to the next project, you know, the next thing to rile them, give them, give them a sense of something, right? Like it isn't everybody on antidepressants these days. So we're all basically walking zombies right now. And so people need something to give them a spark, something to outrage them. Right. And so, yeah, if a woman sees a man that's, um, that's talking the way Andrew Tate talks and he's saying, you know, women are this, you know, I don't, I don't want

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rapper and uh there's an entertainment value to it but there's a seed of truth in a lot of what he was saying is it a thing where they feel threatened by him they fear uh kind of the truth getting out? What do you think is going on there? It's because he's literally the anti-woke. Like he's the anti of everything that they're promoting. So I don't even think it has anything to do with his so-called misogynistic views. I don't really think they're misogynistic, but I don't think it has anything to do with that. I think it has everything to do with the fact that he's pulling people out of the matrix. So he's waking people up. He's saying, nobody's coming to save you. Forget that nine to five. You need to save yourself. You don't need antidepressants. Let

me teach you how to fight depression by yourself what does that do puts the pharmaceutical companies out of out of work right and so it's because he's literally empowering men to save themselves and i think that men are the forefront of society like if you have weak men society crumbles if you have strong women it doesn't really matter it's the men that matter so if you have strong men then society can flourish in every different way um and they don't want we like the powers that be don't want us flourishing because less control. Um, and so like, I personally learned so much from him. Like I love self-improvement content. And so I, I mainly watch men, male content, to be honest, cause it's mainly the men that are doing that. You know, he talks about happiness and again,

his content is for men, but I like it. So he's like, um, don't worry about being happy. Just wake up, get up and do keep going. You know? And I'm like, that's true. I do. I asked myself, am i happy what do i forget happiness just do take action and that is so powerful because if you're not happy and you're wondering why you're not happy all day you're just going to be there taking your antidepressants feeling like a zombie demotivated compliant you'll do whatever the system tells you to do you'll take that vaccine because you can't be bothered to fight you have no fight left in you so he's giving he's he's empowering people men in particular and so they can't allow that. Yeah. If you go back and you read the Stoics and then you listen to what

Andrew Tate was saying and you strip away the delivery of both of them, right? So you strip away kind of all of the poetic kind of almost to a degree aristocratic, you know, rapper from the Stoics message. And then you take away the bombastic components of Andrew Tate and you overlay them. They're saying a lot of the same stuff. Like you are in control. You have to mentally get into a certain position in order to be successful in life. Uh, there's not a lot of like random bullshit in the world and material possessions and things like that, that will make you happy. Like ultimately it's an inside job. Yeah. Right. And what, what cracks me up is I think that, um, if you were to take also, you know, Will Smith, who is pretty well loved around

the world, like he has a viral video, uh, where he talks about like happiness is an inside job. And he explicitly says, it's not my job to make my wife happy. It is her job to be happy. And somehow like that was celebrated right and so like it's very unique because i also think it highlights this idea of like the messenger really matters um and one it's easy to celebrate the dead people right because it's like oh they're dead like they're not they're not really threatening anymore um two is they end up getting shared by a lot of folks who we consider of high status in society today so when you see somebody tweeting about the stoics reading books about the stoics or whatever, we end up ascribing like, oh, you are of a certain status. And therefore those ideas

being shared by these people today mean that these people are good and these ideas are like accepted. But then when you see somebody who, uh, uh, to the outsider, they'd be, they would say, what has Andrew Tate accomplished? The second that it is, uh, kickboxing or it is, you know, internet business or any of these other things, it doesn't fit into the mold of, uh, oh, you rose up in the ranks in the corporation and he became the ceo i actually would uh it would be fascinating you can't study it or kind of run the experiment but like what happens if you took those exact same thoughts and you had somebody from like the accepted institutions say them what would the response be for one people would come for that person very quickly because they'd have the

pressures of the institutions and so you can question whether they'd ever even be able to say this but we do have some examples you'd look at brian armstrong at coinbase he comes out he's like hey, we have a business. It's a business. We're capitalists. We're here to do work. If you don't want to do work, then you probably shouldn't be here. If you're worried about other things, I go somewhere else. And I've told the story before, but during the pandemic, over the summer of 2020, there was all of the social justice unrest and all that going on. And I know two separate CEOs that run pretty large, fast-growing technology companies, and they were getting massive inbound. People were coming to them in their company and saying, why aren't we doing

this? Why aren't we doing this? Why? And they were like in private telling me like, I don't know what to do. Like, I literally do not know what to do. And so both of them, unbeknownst to each other, chose very similar paths. One of them, uh, they had a huge marketing campaign that they had set up. Uh, I think it was like a, almost a million dollars or something. Um, and, uh, due to a couple of things in the market and also, uh, just sensitivities to kind of culture or whatever, they decided not to go forward with the marketing campaign, but they had this allocated money that was sitting there. So they had the idea, let's give it to the employees and we're going to give the employees, uh, whatever it was, I don't know, $10,000 each or whatever. They can spend it on

whatever they want. You want to buy a standing desk, knock yourself out. You want to get a gym membership, knock yourself out. You want to pay off some student debt, knock yourself out. If you want to donate the money, knock yourself out, whatever. If you donate the money, the CEO said, I will match up to $250,000 personally. And according to the CEO, he had like two people in the entire company donate. Everyone else took the money and put it in their pocket. Now that doesn't mean that they're wrong

because that was their right. They could do whatever they wanted with the money. And it doesn't mean that they took the money and just went out and spent it at the club. Like maybe they actually did pay off student loans or whatever, nobody knows. But the reason that they gave it was everyone was requesting all of these different donations

with the company's money. but then when it was their money, a little different story. Second guy, almost exact same thing. Gave everyone money, no cap. He just said, Hey, if you donate the money, let me know and I'll match it. I'll match the whole thing. One person. And so again, these are two anecdotes. It doesn't necessarily mean every company would be this way, but what I think it showed was that like, man, when you kind of almost like call their bluff, there wasn't a lot of action going on. And then I wonder if you take that and you extrapolate it across all these issues, like how much of that is the, that's the standard, that's the default rather than these stories are outliers.

Yeah. I literally think that's the default. Like that's my issue with socialism. Everybody's so generous with other people's money, but whenever it's their own, they're not. And which is why whenever you find, which is why they say when you're younger, if you're not a Democrat, then you don't have a heart. But if you're older and you're still a Democrat, then you don't have a brain um and it's because you know as you get older you make your own money um you know me first charity starts at home i mean how how are you supposed to even i mean it's the same with america how are you supposed to save yourself or save this country if you keep giving money to ukraine right like save your home first charity starts at home so yeah people are always going to be selfish first

and that's literally okay um everybody's playing pretend that's what i've noticed everybody's pretending they're pretending to be a good person they prefer to pretend to be a good person than actually be a good person. Um, like I help people. I'm a nice person. Um, but like, I don't need to tell people, I don't need to do anything about it. And actually my way of helping people is tough love. Like if you're fat, I'm going to tell you you're fat. And like, I'm going to tell you like, you're not going to get a woman if you behave like that. You're not going to get a man if you behave like that. Like, I'm going to tell you straight, like the email you sent me, that's crap. Like to somebody, obviously that that's what I know. Um, but you know, I tell them like, that's not

a good email like that's not going to get you business and so people love pretending everybody's pretending it's why socialism is so stupid because so in uh in the uk we have a lot of um we have a lot of like nationalized services right like um whether it's uh houses whether it's our healthcare system and all this um everything which is nationalized and owned by the government is honestly trash they trash it because they don't care because it's not theirs um that so that that's my issue with socialism everybody's so generous with everyone else's money but as soon as it's your money and somebody's offering it to you you're going to hold on to that very very tight um but in terms of the messenger that's a really good point because um it's interesting because

Jordan Peterson is also quite like Andrew Tate in terms of the message empowering men to be men and I love Jordan Peterson like I'm such a big fan um but even they don't like him and he comes from the institution he's a professor he wears a three-piece suit yeah he wears a full suit this guy is a suit exactly you know he speaks impeccably well everything about him you know um you know he's got a great family he's still with his wife he's not you know messing around or anything like that it's a great man and they hate him because that's how deep the wokeness goes it's the same as like um when I say these things firstly I think I have people will give me more slack because I'm a woman you know we live in such a patriarchal society yet I can get away with saying more of

these things um because I'm a woman am I gonna be careful don't go too far because then I will be banned um but yeah you know it's why they hate like black conservatives it's why when I say what i say i get called a pick me girl or a what's that like i'm only saying what i'm saying so a man will pick me oh yeah be picked you know that rubbish um so they'll call me a pick me rather than somebody who actually thinks this like somebody on crypto twitter for example um he literally said that i say what i say um because um i have internalized misogyny um and i'm literally just trying to please men that's why i say what i say so a man was mansplaining to you right yeah yeah kind of kind of part of the joke exactly so i'm like you don't think a woman can have an

independent thought you like you know it's like it's like if a black person's a conservative it's like you know you know you're not black if you don't vote for biden it's so insane that's the internalized racism that's the internalized misogyny so like you're not allowed to um have your own opinion and so the being a messenger a certain type of messenger certainly helps like i get a lot more views or like more um people cut me more slack as a woman because they're like oh she said it then you know i'm not allowed to say as a man but she can say it how do you use that like so i i 100 agree that a woman can say certain things that a man also could be saying but for whatever reason uh it's almost like a defense mechanism there's a lot of folks in the

political realm uh who used to be democrats now they share more kind of right-leaning uh theories and one of the first defenses that everyone will use is like oh well they used to be a democrat then they like woke up right or then then they did whatever and so like they're cut slack because it's like oh this person has actually changed their mind uh how do you use that for good or bad maybe uh being a woman sharing some of the views that you have what do you mean well just do you intentionally go out and say like hey i know i can say this and other people can't so i'm gonna say it or or are you just saying no look i just happen to notice that people uh give me more slack like is it an intentional thing or is it more so it's just something that you've

noticed uh passively yeah it's not calculated i don't say it because i'm a woman and so i can i say it because i genuinely mean it and i mean what i say um and i can say a lot of things that men can't say like i can say women are emotional men can't say that um but women are so emotional um why can you say that in men camp because i'm a woman so i'm allowed to right it's like a black person's able to say like for example i won't comment on blm that much because like i don't really want to I'm not black I'm not getting into that I'll come on women's stuff I don't really want to like step on things I'm not supposed to step on whatever but is it also something where you feel like you have uh more insight into like the women's role in society being a woman like I

feel like I it would be hard for me to comment on like a woman's experience in society because I'm not a woman like my wife would probably have a much better idea of that than than I would right but you know the truth though like if there's a problem between in life and you and your wife trying to tackle it, she's going to tackle it more emotionally than you would. And she'd probably rely on you for your logic and your clear thinking, I imagine. Yeah. I also think, um, one of the pieces, uh, that really shocks me is just how much, uh, like the idea of like this, like partnership. We have a lot of friends who, uh, um, are couples and also work together. And if you go and you talk to all of them, uh, one, everyone's always like asking kind of in closed door dinners,

like how do you work together and then also like the personal stuff like not get like have work spill over into personal life or vice versa or whatever and so there's like tactical things but i think if you went and asked every single one of them and like the guys and uh the women would say the same thing of like there's balance like the man is uh uh takes a very specific view on something or takes a certain approach to things uh and the woman in the relationship takes a different approach sometimes actually it's like oh hey i'm like uh i'm the gas she's the brakes we have other friends who are like the exact opposite like she's the gas and he's the brakes but like the balance makes like a more well-rounded team to some degree and i feel like

a lot of times that gets either one ignored or two like people don't like the fact that uh you could identify uh oh each person has their own strengths and you put them together they're stronger together it feels like that has become somehow taboo in uh in society as well yeah like men and women aren't equal. And that is canceled. You're canceled. Men and women are not equal. And it's a feature, not a bug. I think that they compliment each other perfectly well. Um, you know, whether it's a woman who's more masculine and a man that's more feminine. So she's, I don't, she's the gas and he's the brakes or whatever way it is. It doesn't really matter. Is it fair to say that men and women are not equal on every single like aspect? And therefore, cause I think what

ends up happening also i'm very aware of uh the internet absolutely is amazing except for in one area nuanced conversation is like banned from the internet right like you cannot have nuanced conversation that's how they get you back for more that's the point yes exactly uh there's a reason why it's only 280 characters um but if you think about uh uh let's take a basketball team the point guard is amazing at dribbling and passing and calling plays and like doing all these things. Nobody in the NBA is like, why is the point guard not posting up down underneath the basket? The guy who's six 10, right. Or seven feet tall. It's just known like, this is the role. This is what you're great at. By the way, the person who plays center can't play point guard.

Right. And vice versa. And so it's like strengths are very obvious, but weaknesses are very obvious in the conversation around gender and like roles in society and all this stuff. It just feels like we want to label everything with one broad brush we don't want to say like no hey this person or this type of person or this person with this upbringing or this training or whatever like here are their strengths here are their weaknesses guess what we probably should find somebody with the opposite strengths and weaknesses put them together like that's a better team that seems like common sense but it feels like it's completely left out of the conversation and it's just like equal not equal there's no like no put these people together and they're like stronger together

yeah 100 because like we're saying that's the only way to keep people on the internet by not allowing any nuanced conversation. And yeah, people love labels. It's the best way to help them characterize things and filter through information in their brains. But I think men and women complement each other amazingly well. And as a woman, I'm able to say certain things

that men aren't allowed to say. And I don't do it for clicks. I don't do it for anything other than my brand, my mission, my everything is to empower individuals to save themselves. and that's teaching women that, you know, don't wait to your thirties. It's teaching men. No one's going to love you unconditionally other than your mother. You know, it's teaching these really hard realities of life, whether it's empowering somebody over their finances, their personal

life, their health, whatever it is. Um, and that's sort of what I want to push the most. Um, and there's so many things that I understand. Like explain this more. So like you said, you tell women, don't wait till you're 30. And then you tell men, nobody's going to love you unconditionally except for your mother start with the woman uh comment what does that mean so men prefer younger women so like a man in his 30s is more likely to want to partner with a woman in her 20s rather than somebody his own age because men date down why do they do that why do they do that because men want to protect and provide so it could be to some extent off-putting a woman that's already super successful um you know and when she's the ceo she's probably got

some masculine traits now. Um, whereas like a woman in her twenties who maybe isn't an entrepreneur and is more feminine and you know, he, he can probably feel more like a man with her. It makes him feel better in order to protect and provide for her. Also there's fertility reasons, you know, men may want hundreds and hundreds of children and she's more likely to give you that in her twenties than she can in her thirties. Um, everything's a generalization obviously. Um, and women date upwards. Um, and all of this is okay. Why do women do that? Because we want someone to protect and provide for us. We, women will always date a man that's more successful and more intelligent, which is why it's hard when you're a woman who is successful and who is

intelligent because you're like, oh wow, I'm already in the top, very high percentage of people regardless of gender. So now it's like, wow, like that's creating an even smaller pool is what it is. It's just the harsh realities of life and nothing you can do about it. But people get so offended by these things. And I don't think you need to be offended that men prefer younger women because women prefer older men when I was like 20 I would date men that were in their late 20s and that would offend my peers it would offend the guys my own age and you know there's nothing you could do about that so women in their in their 30s and 40s complaining about this is like well girl you weren't you know you weren't offended when you were dating men 10 years

older than you when you were younger so that's that's the female situation um the male situation we kind of spoke about this it's no one is going to love you unconditionally other than your mother and I know that's so harsh but it's so true because if you're not doing your job as a man that's it you're done your wife is going to leave you but that's had been happening literally for centuries I know but they're trying to reverse engineer they're trying to not let people realize that um so they want men to um you know get fat um don't become an entrepreneur stay in the nine to five get into debt get in you know enjoy the inflation because higher wages and all this rubbish you know they're trying to push people lower and lower and lower one of the craziest

stories from history uh and i'm gonna generalize here because i don't remember all the details but marcus aurelius uh was the emperor of rome uh he was out on the battlefields fighting uh one of the invading forces and uh word got back to rome that marcus aurelius had been killed and uh obviously they didn't have cell phones back then so it takes a while to get there um and his wife uh said to their daughter, uh, stay here. I'm going to go to Egypt. And for those who don't understand Rome, Egypt, Egypt was where a lot of the grain came from and things like that. Uh, a lot of land, obviously. And at that time when an emperor died, the number one group of people that were at risk was family because the next emperor, regardless of who they were, usually killed the family of

the past emperor, because that's the way that they established power. Sometimes it was a direct, Hey, we know that they killed it. Other times somehow they all just died. Right. Um, but what she decided to do was she went to egypt and uh basically marcus aurelius had kind of a right hand man and he had been looking over a lot of things in egypt and as the story is told uh she ended up sleeping with him and basically like almost like uh being his personal like hype woman being like you could become the emperor of rome with my backing like you can get you can go there right now together and like we can install you you can protect my family and you can like have all this power and wealth and all this stuff. Well, unfortunately for her, Marcus Aurelius was

not dead. Word got back to him that like, yo, your wife is, you know, around, uh, and, uh, uh, thinks that you're dead. So, uh, in a number of the depictions, she basically then goes to the front lines to go find Marcus and basically be like, Hey, we're still good. Right. Uh, she does not come back alive. And so when you think of that story, it's like, man, that is not the like stoic version of the, of the past that we're usually told, but that is very much rooted in like human nature of the way the story is told. That woman is specifically looking for, I am in danger. My family is in danger. I need to go and do something. Now you can question somebody who did something, you know, hundreds of years ago, sure. Thousands of years ago. But it feels a lot

like what you're saying now like like this has literally been going on for thousands of years yeah it's how women are hardwired and you can't reverse engineer that like like i said they're trying to make men more feminine like you can't you just can't reverse engineer that i'm just never going to be attracted to a feminine man because one day i'll be pregnant and i won't be able to work and then i'm like shit now who's going to provide for me now i'm in my most vulnerable state like i have a child i have you know you you need somebody to provide for you that's why women will always date up. That's all you can do because everything's about survival. Everything's about evolution. It's why people social climb. It's why people, you know, the whole thing,

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they're both true like i'm an example of why it's true because i if i if i don't make money i'm not going to eat like it's that simple like i don't come from money you know i my dad's not going to pay my rent like i got i'd have to go home and i don't i'm not going back to back to that little town where I came from, right? So like I have to make money in order to survive, right? And I think a lot of entrepreneurial women do what they do for survival purposes. And there's also a lot of feminism indoctrination as well. That's something which I experienced. So in the movies growing up, it's always the tomboy, the tough girl that's celebrated and she gets the guy. It's never the girly girl in the prom dress with the pink and the glitter, right? And so when I saw that, I was

like, yeah, I want to be the tomboy. Everybody loves the tomboy, you know, the cool one that plays football. That was like indoctrination in my brain for years and years and years. It wasn't until I was in my like early mid to mid 20s. And I was like, actually, that doesn't really resonate with me. I actually feel more beautiful and at peace when I'm behaving in a more feminine manner. So I think both are true because yes, you do have to make money in order to survive and you need to be an entrepreneur in order to make survival money you're not going to get survival fuck you kind of money if you're um if you're in your nine to five as somebody's assistant so there's that but then yes they are at odds with each other because you become more

masculine because that's what is necessary like i one of my videos somebody commented i was like does she not realize she comes across as masculine and it's like i know but this is because i'm in a work setting and I'm trying to get a message out there. And if I say my message in a really sweet and loving way, you know, it's not going to be as aggressive, but the trick is to know when to turn it off. And I think that's what a lot of women can't do. Um, especially when you work in an environment whereby you're in an office and you're, you are the CEO and you've got to remain masculine and tough in order to have everyone beneath you, including men, um, to respect you and respect your authority and that can, and you're in that environment all day, every single

day, that is hard to switch off. That is very, very difficult. And if you are with a man and you're going to bring that kind of energy home, there's going to be a problem. Um, but what I've tried to do, because I'm like hyper aware of everything, too hyper aware probably. Um, but I try to find a balance in the way that I portray my message, the amount of time I spend in certain energies. Um, I hire men to do the more masculine side of things. So like when it comes to business, I have a man that negotiates for me. Um, cause number one, he'll do better than I will when it comes to the negotiation. Um, number two, people will respect him more, which is great. And that's okay. And number three, um, I don't want to get into my masculine energy. I am now, I guess,

supposedly cause like we're having a conversation and this is necessary. But other than that, like I don't want to spend too much time in that energy. Why do you think he's a better negotiator than you? Um, well, he's better at taking risk than I am. Um, well, I've seen him like fuck up with the risk before, but overall, like he's better at taking risk than me. We've been in situations where we've been offered money and I'll be like, take it, take it, take it. And then he'll be like, Leah, shut the fuck up. We are not taking this. And then he doubles it. Right. Whereas I would have settled so many situations I've seen, I would have settled. Um, and I, is that a male female thing or is that just an experience thing? I think it's a male female thing. I can get into

that energy, like don't get me wrong. I can get into an energy where I can like be the best negotiator, but it requires time in your masculine. And I don't want to spend too much time in that energy. Um, and so I, I, and I've done that before and now I'm like trying to just balance it out. It's really important, um, as a woman. So yeah, it's, it's getting that balance. Um, and like I said, I can get in it, but you've got to be in that for a lot, for an extended period of time. So what would you say to women who are like, okay, cool. I, everything you're saying, I agree. with but like dudes are scared of me when i'm like that but like i like i intimidate men uh by having like the masculine energy well calm it down just don't be masculine in a man's company

like if i if i want to date or something if i'm trying to like get a man you know get him to like me oh i'm pleasant like i'm not i'm pleasant now but i'm but i'm not like this like right now i'm like aggressive with you right i'm not gonna be like that at all ever let him lead don't try compete with him just sit back and i think that's one of the most beautiful things about the male female dynamic anyway because it's like an opportunity for you to just switch off and relax and like let him do what he needs to do um and he'll enjoy that more um and the only men that i that i date are all masculine men and they say that i'm feminine or whatever you know like so i i i'm just hyper aware of the situation and i think don't lead with your career because you

doesn't give a fuck like that's for starters wait explain that well a woman cares about a man's career because she needs to know that he can protect and provide right a man doesn't care about a woman's career this doesn't add anything he cares about how nurturing you are how kind are you also how healthy and fit are you because i want you to raise my children that's what he cares about again it's back to evolution um and that's absolutely fine of course you know a man can be like wow you've done really amazing i love what you do and and that's great because you know for example me i love what i do and i'd hope somebody would um would value what i do and value my opinions and stuff like that but but it's not but it's not the deal breaker you know it's not you

know it's not wow she has a podcast i must marry her i'm more attracted to her now no but as a man it's like wow he's got a podcast that's hot he's successful that's hot i want to marry him now you know um so it's men don't care what about uh men who say that they want intelligent women do you think that that's true or do you think that they're bullshitting i think that's true i think men that say they don't want intelligent women are bullshitting because okay ultimately like it's a partnership and if do you want a dumb woman raising your children yeah she doesn't know my friends who are like oh i uh like they don't explicitly say it but like they basically are like that's not like the most important thing uh and sometimes they use career as a proxy of like

um uh i i'm not so worried about like what the career is i always just think about the fact that like, don't you want to have friends who are smart, who are ambitious, who are going to teach your kids to do this or whatever? Like, uh, most of my friends, I'm sure there's exceptions. I won't call them out, but like most of my friends, I think, uh, don't want to be surrounded by like a dumb person every day. And that's on both sides. Like the women don't want to be around a dumb dude all day long. And a guy doesn't want to be around a dumb woman all day. Um, and so it just feels like, uh, maybe people are like performing a little bit, right. And they don't want to explicitly say because they feel like it's too harsh or like too honest which is like a whole

another thing it feels like society in general uh especially before the internet was like just lied to each other like nobody wanted to actually say the truth now with the internet it's much easier to say the truth um but the truth scares the shit out of a lot of people as well yeah the truth is terrifying yeah and that's why andrew was banned um because like i said we live in this like snowflake generation whereby people can't um process the harsh realities that they're hearing um like I just had my birthday which is all very exciting but you know it's like another year older so I'm just like okay like you know you just you just think about these things and I think that's important um and back to the idea of like being with an intelligent woman 100% I think a man

should be with an intelligent woman like what are you gonna do you want to live with this person all day you can't have a conversation with her and I think I mean you can I mean I think you're an example of this like a man likes to bounce his ideas off of his woman like build together build something amazing together for sure for sure i just think like you know oh she's not worth hundreds of millions darn it no one of the things uh man we're gonna get really into some topics here now that people uh gonna get mad about but uh one of the secrets women uh who are listening that just i've never understood is i will sometimes go to a dinner and it's all guys there and like a guy will make a comment essentially like yeah like this dinner was a great excuse

for me to get away from my wife. And I always am just kind of like, dude, why are you married? Right. Like, like just like to me, I don't know. And unfortunately it's usually like older guys. Cause I think that, uh, there was probably, um, a different standard at the time. Like I feel like now maybe younger people, uh, we know the divorce rate has gone up, but like people who aren't happy, just like leave the relationship. And there's a bunch of negative side effects to that. But that's one of those things that always like kind of, I don't know, it's like what is going on here and then if you think also my wife and i talk about this too of like if you don't like the person that you're married with like what do you do every day right like all of our friends i

think they like really enjoy being with each other and if you ask them like what they do on the weekends or whatever like they hang out with each other like if they go to dinners they go together and and all this stuff uh but like if you don't like your significant other do you just like sit on the couch and both like stare at your phone and not talk while like the tv is playing and like pray that they don't ask you a question I've seen couples do that at dinners and it's heartbreaking like what's going on people get married for the wrong reasons like I could have got married like two years ago but I was like no I know I'm gonna wake up one day and be like you're not it um people get married for the wrong reasons whether it's because um like I'd say my grandma got married

for the wrong reasons like my grandparents are amazing but she got married for the wrong reason she got married in 1951 or something like that and it's because she needed to get out the house she needed a man to provide for her and that was it and they got married were they incredibly happy i don't know i think grandma could have been happier um but it's people just marry for the wrong reasons um and that is why it's good nowadays and why i would tell women like you know secretly like yeah make sure you got your own money like you know you don't want to be stuck with somebody um so I do like modern times to an extent because it has um allowed us number one to see how the previous generations messed it up um and also um as women we are more empowered now

um and so we can choose we don't have to just pick the first man that comes to save us like I've been in certain situations and been like yeah if this was the 50s I would have married you but I'm not going to um money and relationships is really interesting because uh I think a lot of people, uh, for decades and decades and decades, it was like, okay, get married. Like everyone puts their finances all together and it's like, Hey, there's one big account for the household or whatever. It's a business. Yeah. To some degree without a doubt. And then there's almost this like whisper network. I think of women started to like, uh, uh, talk about like, Hey, make sure you have almost like a secret bank account, like have your own money, you know,

be able to have some level of, uh, resilience. But I actually think that like the default in every relationship there would be less like uh um like conflict and less uh arguments if people said hey there's actually three bank accounts like each person in the relationship has their own bank account and there's a shared bank account and guess what like you can do whatever the hell you want with your own money and then like the shared money like people figure out how to do that and to me um if people know that money is the number one driver of arguments and ultimately of divorce, like just solve the problem upfront when everything's like good so that you never get in those situations. But for some reason there ends up being this, like, uh, uh, no one

can like say that, right. It feels like that is like not the way that it's allowed to be talked about. It has to be like, Oh, you should have your own money because like, you know, God forbid anything ever happens. Like, why can't we as a society just come out and say like, Hey, people argue over money. Money's really dumb. And like people who love each other literally will get divorced over money like just solve the problem up front and prepare to be in a situation where you can drastically reduce the number of arguments in the future the same way we talk about there should be financial literacy in schools should there be like marriage literacy in schools how to like how to like navigate relationships like how to be emotionally resilient how to have

a conversation without without bringing the other person down rather than saying you know i like i don't like I don't you know I don't like you because you did this rather than saying I don't like how you did that so it's like pointing at the problem rather than the person that would be really useful but that's like conflict resolution that you can use in marriage in business in your interpersonal like relationship like all these different things that you can do but for some reason we don't teach that at all so people just don't know that but then two is like because of the emotional component of marriage like it just gets exasperated even more and then people have a hard time of being able to say like, you were right, I was wrong. I think it would be really

useful financial literacy and mental resilience, emotional resilience, and how to negotiate, right? I had Chris Voss on my show the other day. And he's so cool, because he talks about hostage negotiation, but then he brings it to business. And then I'm pretty sure he brings it to relationships. And the guy that I that I mentioned earlier, that does a lot of my negotiating for me, he even says to me like Leia you he's like you don't know this because you're a woman so you don't you don't have to think like this but he's like as a man when I'm like out trying to get a woman and you know I'm praying or whatever um you got to behave in a certain way and he's like that negotiation between a man and a woman is the same in business like play hard to get you know something so simple

like but it's a mimetic response again it goes back to human nature like this has been going on for thousands and thousands of years of every human wants what they can't have yes and why would you make yourself too available for somebody when they haven't done anything for you? Because then you become suspicious, right? So an example of this is like a male feminist. Like that creeps me out. Why are you a male feminist? Now I'm suspicious of you, right? Like I haven't done anything for you. You don't know me. And you're like trying to fight my battles that I don't even have. Like that makes me suspicious. If a man comes on too strong, I'm suspicious. There's guy that lives in my building that won't stop texting me i'm like i'm like i'm like this is

too much how did he get your number oh don't even ask that's another that's another conversation yeah that's another conversation but he invited me on a yacht right and then he invited and he was gonna cook me this big curry no sorry he's gonna get a chef to cook this big korean dinner on a yacht right i'm not going i'm not that bloody hungry but isn't that like the amazing date that a bunch of women would want why would he give that to me what have i done for him i don't deserve it yet what what if I'm a piece of shit what if I'm boring what if I like why would you because of how I look now you're now I'm like oh this guy only wants to have sex with me because he doesn't know anything else about me other than the way that I look um and so he's

doing too much what am I doing for you everything's about exchange like what am I doing for you nothing you know maybe okay like I said I just had my birthday maybe if we'd been dating for like nine months or whatever and he wants to do that on my birthday i'll be like damn let's go thanks babe you know because i've been such a great girlfriend so here's a great treat you know um but that makes me suspicious of him and so now i'm really not answering his text messages does it work the other way like are there things that women can do that men should be suspicious of yeah not in the same way um that's a good question actually i need to think about that i think there are red flags um and i think there are things that men should be what would be the red flags

i don't think a woman can ever give a man too much in the beginning um especially if he's like successful and high value and all this rubbish you know i think you know she sees something good and she's like pick me please she likes him which is fine i think there are red flags like if she's trying to compete with you you know and if she's trying to like um emasculate you um disrespect you in public um you know insult you um fight with everything you're saying if she doesn't want to help you you know make your life easier those things are red flags but in terms of like coming on too strong I think in general anyone can come on too strong but I don't but I don't think there's that same like be suspicious of her as like the other way around I have a lot of friends

uh thankfully they have been uh very successful so I get to just hang out with them um but uh those that are single they're deathly afraid of actually meeting somebody who they like because they're suspicious because people will figure out that they're successful and then they don't know uh whether it's because they're successful or because they really like them and i find it fascinating to talk to them and you know kind of every couple of months or whatever we'll be at dinner i'll be you know what's going on with the with the love life and uh yeah they uh they have a very very hard time because uh they feel like every single person they meet is there for the wrong reasons. And so it goes back to like, are you better off actually meeting somebody

earlier in your life rather than later in your life? And you can go to the extreme of like, if you're like a 55 year old man, who's a billionaire, I don't know how successful your dating life is going to be, you know, to find somebody who you can fall in love with for the rest of your life. Uh, maybe you get lucky because you only got like 20 years left that you can make it 20 years. But like, I do think that some of those dynamics play into it where it's a psychological thing that people end up, uh, uh, almost like talking themselves out of, uh, because they're so scared. It's a really good point. Um, tell me if I'm wrong, but this is the way I would look at it. Um, if you're that successful as a man and you've been, and you've

been able to make that much money, then that must come with a certain level of intelligence, um, and self-awareness. And so I think it should be easy to suss somebody out. I think the same way you can suss out where they like, they lie. That's what they do. The girls, they lie. No, no, no, the guys they lie they basically when they meet somebody they not lie about their name or anything but they'll lie about like what they do right and like they'll like almost like downplay it goes back to a lot of things in life um actually my wife told me this one time and i thought it was really good and i'm gonna screw it up but she'll give me shit about but like basically the idea of when you haven't made it yet you you uh try to play up everything right if you like read the um

if you read the bio of a speaker correct and they're and it's 17 pages long you're like you might be full of shit. Right. But then if you read the bio of somebody who's hyper successful, it's like nothing. Same as what they wear, right? Yes. Because when you're not successful, you play up and you wear the gold chains and you drive the fancy car and they do all these different things. And then almost like you reach a certain point of success and then like it goes opposite and they like downplay it. Now that doesn't mean that they don't own a fancy car or they don't have a mansion or a yacht or whatever, but it's a different like kind of, I don't know,

way of exuding the wealth. And so intelligence is also the same way. Success is the same way in terms of when they meet people. Like how many times do you hear stories of somebody is hyper successful, they meet somebody, and then they leave the dinner and they're like, I didn't know that that person, like, oh, my God, I had no clue. and it's like in some way you ascribe more value more status to that person who downplayed it rather than the person who's sitting there the entire dinner and they're telling you about how

amazing they are and everyone's like dude shut the fuck up 100 there's a there's a networking association or whatever in miami and um i met a guy and he is like a super rich bitcoiner like i'm talking early early early days he then built a company sold it for like hundreds and hundreds of millions this guy is done he doesn't even work right he is so chill i had no idea i was sitting next to him he's saying he's also a socialist as well and i was like bro i was like why are you a socialist you know he was cool until that part yeah yeah but he's lovely and being a socialist in miami has to be like a death sentence essentially because there are so many people from latin america who are like we've seen this experiment it does not work yeah literally that's

why i love it here um but no 100 it's also like when people put in their bio like as seen on cnbc Fox. I'm like, don't do that. And something which I do on the side as well as, um, I help like coach people with their social media and branding and marketing and stuff like that. And I always tell them for their bios on Twitter, just keep it very clean, very basic. That's it. Don't hype yourself up. Remain someone of mystery. Well, it's, um, they're playing the status game, obviously, right. Which, uh, everyone does, uh, to some degree, but I do think that it's interesting of like the rise. And then at some point there's a tipping point and like, then it becomes like downplaying a lot of different things which um again uh i think dating as somebody who is uh

young and not yet successful versus somebody who is uh older and successful are two completely different games and people just don't talk about it i don't know there's so many things that i feel like i have conversations with friends in private that i'm like why don't people just talk about this stuff it seems so weird people don't talk about anything there's so much we should talk like people should talk about but the the thing about downplaying as a man i spoke to somebody about this the other day he's 28 and I said to him I was like don't downplay it too much like you know don't don't like uh underestimate um the way a woman is hardwired she needs to know that you can protect and provide you know especially somebody like me like I need to know when the

apocalypse comes you know when like when they tell you if you don't take that injection you're fired I need to know that like you're fine you don't need to take the injection and you don't you know you can leave your nine to five right um so don't downplay it too much but yeah of course like you don't need to say like i have hundreds and hundreds of millions and all this stuff um i think that's a really fine line um but i do think your friends like surely should just know what a woman's after and it's i mean especially miami you'd be shocked you'd be shocked at how many of them well they like eventually they they uh can flush it out but like i've got friends who have dated a girl for six nine twelve months and then like oh what was what what was it how

is always different like uh you usually um it almost feels like uh uh they weren't after something other than like the person and then like it just becomes obvious over time it's usually not like oh i had a conversation she said some magic word and like now i'm out uh it's usually you know like in many relationships i think that uh um everyone always thinks about uh people in relationships grow apart but also like friends grow apart and so um i have this theory that uh, there's only really two ways that people end up together, uh, in a relationship for a long period of time. Tell me it's either, uh, you meet like very early in life. So high school or college maybe. Um, and you meet at the same, uh, like status level to some degree. And then what you

do is, uh, you evolve together. So, uh, you go through college graduation together, your first jobs together, your first, uh, promotions, bonuses, you start a company, whatever the thing is, but like you, you do that together and you successfully navigate all of those changes in your life together because you're both going through them at the same time. And for whatever reason, you're, you're able to do that successfully. The only other way that relationships really work is like, you both have your own paths. And at some point you meet down the road after you've both had some level of success, because what I think ends up happening is that, uh, one, the people who meet in high school and college, like it becomes obvious, Hey, we can't navigate

all these evolutions together. So like those couples break up, uh, but also people who meet and somebody is like super successful earlier in their career than the other person. A lot of times those relationships don't work because, uh, it goes back to like, when you go home, who do you talk to? You talk to your significant other. And like, I always think about like how many bad decisions in the world happen because people are asking their significant other who knows nothing about the situation or about the industry or whatever for advice. Like most people probably should not be asking their spouse for advice on like what to do at work. If, uh, you're a corporate America, uh, like executive and she is a entrepreneur running like a small business on

main street. I don't know how much overlap there is, right? Like, should it be like, uh, a small business owner calling up a McKinsey consultant and being like, Hey, what should I do with my business? Like probably going to get bad advice. Also the McKinsey consultant calling up the small business and being like, Hey, we're trying to do this tax thing. Like small business is like, I don't know. I just call my accountant. Right. So it is like who you ask for advice is almost as important as the advice you get. But, uh, it goes back to these relationships and like, I don't know, picking the right person to spend time with who you're probably gonna spend the most time with is probably top one two decisions you make in your life 100 and it's hard like you

tell me how did how did you know your wife was the one uh we pretty much knew almost immediately but as soon as you met for the most part yeah that's what i think is true but but like when we met uh the very first conversation we had um there was a number of things i i don't know if she's comfortable with me sharing uh but um there's a number of things that we talked about that it was just like very obvious like oh this person and i think very similarly uh we have similar ambitions and uh um there was like a mutual respect but also this like uh similar attitude of like um anything that happens in the future like there's a way to figure it out and like you can do that with somebody else so it's just like a whole bunch of things and and it's not like oh we're

gonna get married one day and we're gonna have kids and like anybody who says that like you're just a egotistical, arrogant, amazing, hilarious, uh, uh, bullshitter, but like, I respect the shit out of the bullshit. Um, but I think what is obvious is like, Hey, this person is someone I want to spend a lot more time with. And then it like evolves over time into like, Oh, okay. Like, uh, we've now done this for a year now, two years or, you know, whatever. And then eventually it's like, Oh, okay. Like, yes, I have de-risked the situation, which no one likes to talk about it that way, but like I have de-risked this situation where my confidence level has gone up because I always, um, uh, what there's all these shows now, uh, if you're like scrolling through Netflix and

it's like, you know, get married on the first date or like a arranged marriage or this or that, and you're like, what is the probability that those two people end up being happy? Like near zero, but somebody who's dated, even if it's for six months, 12 months, two years, whatever, like you should have higher probability, uh, of success and higher confidence in your decision making if you have many more data points like that's all dating really is i love the fact that you said that you knew straight away because i think that is true i think it's i don't know how old you were when you guys met but i think you get to a certain point um or an age or whatever where you meet someone you're like i just know like you just know um so i'm always like stressing

i forget who it is it might be algorithms uh to live by or uh super forecasters i can't remember which book uh i read them both at the same time so i can't remember which one it was in um but in one of those books, they talk about this idea of, uh, you should, if you, if you have an unknown number of, uh, options, basically what you should do is once you've, uh, looked at, I think it's 33 or 50%. I can't remember. I think it might be 33%. Once you've looked at 33% of the options, you should pick the next best one. So like, if you looked at 33% of your options, the next thing you see like this is great you have enough of like a baseline to compare it against yeah where like you probably have a pretty high degree of confidence in your decision making but you don't

wait till you see all you know 100 of the options and they're like shit yeah option 42 was the one i should have went with yeah and then you have like regret and so it's this fascinating thing around like human psychology of like a lot of people don't get married at 18 now some people do but for the most part people don't and so they've probably dated or been on dates or talked to a bunch of people 25 26 27 years old somewhere in that range they have enough of like a baseline of okay here's the things i like things i don't like here's the the experiences i like the type of person i like whatever like and then they basically pick and the picking is a double opt-in that's the other thing people forget okay it's not just like we don't live in america we don't

live in a society where like people are like that one but it feels like that it feels like you get no come on no no and no in terms of what you were saying though because like you have this baseline right so you know what you like and what you don't like but once you have all that information you're just you see it yeah but how many times does somebody pick but somebody somebody picks and the other person's like no that's not for me so the double opt-in is both people are saying hey yes this is for me and so it ends up leading the reason why it's it's so fascinating is because I actually think a part of the conversation that a lot of people haven't had is when the pandemic happened. Yeah. Most people look to their significant other for health advice, for personal

safety, for should we move? Should we not? Like all these things. And I have a lot of friends who use pregnant women. My wife was pregnant during this. And so obviously there was a lot more thought process that goes into just not like, Hey, what are her and I going to do? But also like, there's a baby and science, all this stuff. Uh, we're not scientists. So like, you know, doing our best here. Uh, we called a bunch of people, like did all this stuff, but we have friends who are pregnant and like, they just like got in line and we're like, let's go to get, to get it, to get the shot. And then we were like, Hey, did you even look like, I don't like the conclusion doesn't matter as much as the process. And they were like, Oh, maybe I should

of like wow like researched more or like thought and i was like by the way like your decision is your decision like whatever i'm not here to like be prescriptive to anybody but you didn't even like do any research yeah for all you know it could be absolutely disastrous for a child or could not be but you don't know and that's when i realized i was like holy shit critical thinking is absolutely non-existent in fucking society because the mainstream narrative just dominates absolutely the mainstream narrative is aggressive and it's almost impossible to fight um the whole thing with covid was mind-blowing like i had a friend um she came over to my house and was um and was genuinely like arguing with me about how like it's dangerous and you know she doesn't want

to pass something on to her parents and i'm like why are you here then like the lack of uh the the cognitive dissonance that people can't quite understand you know like my body my choice for abortion but then when it comes to vaccines it's not your body sorry it's your body my choice you know but you're allowed to say that yeah if men said that well no i'm not i might be like i don't know i got like so much hate when i said vaccines my my body my choice um the cognitive dissonance that we saw over the last two years was absolutely mind-blowing and actually um my whole life has like changed because of that why like i am now prepared every choice that i make is with the idea in mind that tyranny is right around the corner so like i said i'm jewish and growing up

um in europe um we were always told um holocaust survivors were always told to have your bags packed because you never know when something's coming right always have your bags packed um and i never really like internalize that because i'm just like well i'm happy here in england everything's good it wasn't until covid that that mentality really really made sense now every decision i make moving forward is knowing that tyranny is right around the corner. So when I pick a partner, it's like, can you flee with me? Are you my apocalypse partner? Like I said, when they tell you take the medicine, like how are you going to navigate that? Can you think critically to actually see that this could be potentially dangerous or did you just get it out of convenience and you

didn't even think about it, you know, because that's a red flag. So every decision I make, where I'm living, how I, you know, do my finances, holding Bitcoin, everything that I do is knowing that tyranny is right around the corner. And so I always prepare accordingly. Yeah. I do think a lot about process versus outcome and, uh, people who make decisions, whether they work or not, or they're good decisions, bad decisions in hindsight, uh, how many of them actually have the rigor to think through, um, all of their options and then make a highly calculated high probability decision and what scares me is that that number is not very high like if you look at society in general um five percent maybe maybe if we're lucky right

well it's because humans are um will always take the easy path we always take the path of least resistance and so we will never wake up to certain realities until um we are physically in pain i think it was Yuri Bezmenov that said, you will not know that you are being manipulated. You will not know that society is being demoralized. You will not know that you are literally living under tyranny until you're on your way to the gas chambers. That's the only way you will know. And I think the same thing is true for COVID and the vaccines. It's like, you took that thing without even thinking about it, right? I think today I saw the next booster is now available, but that um but they won't put but that hasn't got finished human trials um so that's clearly

dangerous um but you won't know until like maybe you can't get pregnant maybe you can't have children maybe you have health issues maybe as a man you now have a heart problem you won't know until you're physically in pain because that's how the human mind works I also think it's like a defense mechanism as well because it's like leaving the matrix it's too painful to realize that everything is a scam, everything is orchestrated, you know, whether it's the financial system, feminism, the war on masculinity, like you don't know that all of this is orchestrated until you physically feel it. And you don't want to wake up to that. Like I know, I know people who are like in their 60s. And you know, they thought that, you know, the nine to five and giving your

life to the man was a good idea. And it's too painful to pull them out. Which is why like, we are so privileged to be in this era whereby we actually have access to alternative information I think like my rabbit hole with all of this started probably with Jordan Peterson because he's a very kind of um a relatable approachable individual because he wears the three-piece suit like you said you know he's a doctor a professor you trust him um and so yeah that is uh information that I would never have had access to if I was born in like the 50s the 60s whenever it was And so with that mindset, yeah, I can at an early age know the truth, but you hit a certain age and it's too hard to come out of the matrix. Go check out compassmining.io today.

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Oh, yeah. And the best way to do this is there's three questions that you ask. When somebody tells you something, you say, why? They then say, usually, some appeal to expertise or kind of status. They'll say, because so-and-so said it. and then you say, prove it. So it's why, says who, prove it. And you can apply this across almost every aspect of your life.

Just somebody says something, why, says who, prove it. And what you find is by asking those three simple questions, a very large portion of the things that you're told, you immediately are like, I think I need to do more research on this because that sounds like bullshit. And what's scary about it is actually very foundational things to our life

that we previously thought were true, now all of a sudden, it's not so much that we like over-rotate to like what I'll call like the conspiracy theory land and it's like, oh my God, like everyone's like got some plot to like kill us all or whatever. But it's just that like,

man, this thing that I took as fact, actually there's a lot of gray or there's a lot of nuance here that I wish that I had known years ago. And so whether it's around food, around exercise, whether it's around information you read on the internet, whatever, it's just why says who, prove it. and it is scary how many things you end up i've changed my mind or i now believe

a watered down version of what i believed or whatever but like why don't we teach that in school i think it's i think if you can change your mind after receiving more information you are a genius and a great person but so many people can't do that um and there are people that i see on on twitter that have said crazy crazy things which kind of leads me to actually a side point which i actually want to get your opinion on um a lot of people say you know what we're talking about is how bitcoiners feel right this is like a very bitcoiner kind of conversation do you feel that there's um like this divide and a political divide so like bitcoiners tend to be more right-wing or libertarian and then when you see that that random person who's like pro-vaccine

and they're a bitcoiner you're just like i don't understand do you does that confuse you um i don't think we can paint a broad brush across all bitcoiners because i think there's bitcoins on the right there's bitcoins on the left there's bitcoins are independent libertarian all these different like political parties what i would say is uh uh i actually think of bitcoin less as like a political kind of box and it's more about critical thinking and now what ends up happening is uh what you find in the political parties is that there's like the dogma like almost like a religious like fervor of just uh whoever is the source of the the dogma like i will follow them no matter what uh and then there's the critical thinkers and i always ask the folks in the

political world uh one question i can quickly put them in are you dogma or are you a critical thinker it's what is one thing that the other side believes that you agree with oh that's a good question and you either you either have something or you don't and by the way it doesn't even matter if it's like a big thing a small thing whatever but the people who are like they're wrong about everything you're like you're insane like you literally this is now not about intellectual humility or honesty, it's now become a religion. And so if you just say like, okay, in the political world, there are definitely people who lean on one of these axes, but they do critically think, and they can say, you know what? I actually think that I agree with this. Or maybe my political

party and this political party agree on it. Like that kind of screws people up. So when I think of the Bitcoin world, like that's all it is. It's just like people who think critically. And by the way like bitcoiners are wrong about stuff all the time right i'm wrong about stuff all the time you're wrong about stuff all the time like that is human nature nobody is right 100 of the time but it goes back to process versus outcome if you can focus on the process and say to somebody i don't care what the actual end decision you made was did you have the right process to think through from a critical standpoint uh to not get swayed by the mainstream narrative to have the courage and conviction to be independent uh in your thought process and analysis and then do you

just have good decision-making framework like a lot of times uh when i'm talking like a founder i'll say to them hey uh why'd you do that and they'll like come up with some crazy reason why and i'm like okay walk me through like what were the options and why did you decide that and what i'm trying to get at is like what was the framework used to make the decision and more times than i wish that were just true they're just like went with my gut and by the way like intuition is actually the uh totality of all of our experiences and like all these things that we've learned and whatever so there's some like science to it but like why didn't you go look at this data set you have or why don't you talk to this expert that you know or this or whatever

and then you just realize that like no in their head they've categorized decisions and this is a low value or not important decision so they didn't spend a bunch of time on it which maybe they're right maybe they're not but the high value decisions they go and they create all these reports and you know analysis and all this stuff and so you start to like try to unpack this and you just realize like good decision-making is probably one of the key skills for adults to have, but also to teach children like we talked about earlier. And if you look at everywhere a kid goes outside of their parents, if their parents really care about this stuff, they get zero critical thinking education, none. So like we shouldn't be surprised that nobody can do it

in society. They would never teach critical thinking in school. School literally empowers you to be this obedient individual you know like we had to i don't know what it's like in america but in england and we weren't allowed to just sit down you know we had to ask to sit down we had to be told you don't have this uh i haven't been to school in a while so maybe it changed but yeah we can just chill no no we oh my god well firstly we wear school uniforms right yep so immediately we're in suits everyone uh across the the country wears a uniform a public or private school yes until you get to uh 16 and uh 17 18 the last two years you can wear what you want um because you're an adult now um but um yeah so you walk in and you stand behind your chair and then the teacher

says you may now sit down and then we sit down interesting you don't have that in america uh i'm sure there's some schools that do it but like definitely not in the public schools uh you can wear pretty much whatever i mean there's some dress code uh how long you know dresses can be or uh i don't think guys can wear like sleeveless shirts and stuff like that but for the most part there's like a dress code but you can wear whatever you want um and then uh most classrooms are there's zero chance that there's any degree of like order really well you have to remember like how if you are uh a huge generalization but if you are a 50 year old teacher yeah you've been doing it for 25 years and uh you have a kid who's just an asshole like just they're disorderly

they're constantly talking they're causing problems like all this stuff yeah are you worried about the smart person that's like very well behaved standing behind their chair and then waiting to be asked to sit down like no you're like everyone sit down and shut up right like here's lesson plan here's whatever and so like i feel for teachers because it to me is like almost an impossible task uh i actually know someone who's a teacher and and every time i hear them talk about like the classroom everything i'm just like dude you this is like the most important job in America. The problem is that you're a teacher plus a babysitter, right? Like you're a disciplinarian as well. And so much of the energy and focus goes to the disciplinarian component rather than the

teaching component. And so naturally, like the kids that want to learn who aren't a problem, they're not getting a hundred percent of the teacher on the teaching side. They're watching their teacher spend, I don't know, 10 minutes out of a 50 minute class, disciplining people, creating order you know passing your sheet like all this crazy stuff it's a mess it's an absolute mess yeah i mean i didn't know that in america it's not as like strict or ordered as it is in england but i think i think the rules still sort of stands they don't teach you critical thinking no financial literacy you have to ask to go to the bathroom you have to ask for all these things um there's some of that like you you have to ask in in most schools you have to ask to go to the

bathroom or whatever but remember america was built on like the revolution yeah right and to some degree uh immigration and like the rebellion that the the ability to uh to some degree uh make decisions for yourself seek a better life like like there are some components of america that i think are different than other countries um but there's still a lot of the same things around just like yeah like it's built for the industrial age to control people make them obedient and put them in factories and like it's done a pretty good job of that until we didn't need those people anymore and now we need people who can think critically and and you know make their own path we have a critical thinking crisis I think the last two years literally just proved that

and I wonder if we'll get to a point whereby people will start to wake up I think COVID was an incredible opportunity for people to wake up I actually think Donald Trump's presidency was an incredible opportunity for people to wake up I think actually Donald Trump was the turning point for me personally um in sort of realizing that we live in a snowflake generation um the most funniest thing that he said was if you're rich and you're a star women will let you grab them by the pussy right that to me was such a turning point that statement i did not expect you to say that okay yeah that statement why it was so fascinating because it's true and the fact that we can't have an honest and a nuanced conversation me saying it's true is not nuanced but the fact

that we can't have an honest conversation about that blew my mind. Are you saying that Donald Trump, Andrew Tate, Jordan Peterson, and the Stoics, like they're all saying the same thing? They're all saying the same thing because it's true. Like look at any rich, charismatic, successful, uh, strong, high status man. Women will flock to him. Not all women. That's not really something that I would do. And a lot of my friends aren't, we're not really like that, but most women will do that. Look at Miami. Every time I go out in Miami, there's always a 60 year old man on a date with an 18 year old girl. Okay. She'll let him. He doesn't mean you can just grab her without her consent. That's not what it means. It just means that when you're successful women,

you can have your choice of women. And it was the fact that society was so aggravated by that, unable to take it in the spirit that it was meant because it was meant in a certain spirit. It wasn't said on stage or said in a locker room talk like context um that for me was such a wake up um is it good for society to operate that way uh yes i think because um free speech matters um and i think no no the free the free speech thing well because let's just say they could say whatever they yes whatever they want to say whether you agree with them or not like that's the whole point of free speech but like for that to be true which i think we've said over time uh for thousands and thousands of years there's been this dynamic but like is it good for a society to operate that way

I think that it's okay because there's because everything's consensual you can grab her by the pussy I believe doesn't actually mean grab any woman because you are entitled to her doesn't mean that like that it means she will let you you know when you're a star she will let you um how can you police that anyway how can you police the fact that young girls like rich men older men how do you police that you can't um i don't think it's bad um in terms of like the language i know you weren't really asking about that but in terms of the language like i don't even think that should be policed either because like if that offends you good toughen up you know um so that for me was a turning point massively actually uh donald trump does it feel like um

the political discourse in america is different than in the uk or elsewhere or is this the same it's a great question because um unfortunately americanization is real and um we have severe americanization in the uk so in america things are far more um heated and aggravated okay um you have like you you identify by your national by your by your ethnicity and where you come from italian american uh african american um irish whatever we don't do that so already you have this divide, right? It's not we are one, we're American, you already have that divide. In England, if you're black, you're black. If you're white, you're white. I don't say I'm Jewish English, you know, no, I'm English. And that's it. And so already you so the difference there is like you

have that divide. Now during the whole BLM thing, what was going on in America was insane. And it actually broke my heart to start to see that come to the UK. So we saw black and white people at it um in in London and that's not that's not an English thing we never have that if you're black great if you're white great like of course you know racism exists in all societies and of course there are white people who are awful black people are awful whatever but we don't have that racial um that aggravated racial tension thank you yeah we don't have that like you have it um and Americanization is is is is real and especially in terms of like feminism and stuff like that like a lot of that was was born here much of that was born here you know like the abortion debate

all of that was born here like we don't have that in england you know we don't have like these um these um like political topics which are what are they called you know when um like like election topics which swing an election like abortion guns yep what's that called like just like a hot like the hot topic or the the uh there's a name for it where it's like a like a like a top anyway you know what i mean um we don't have that like abortion is not like a single voter issue single vote issue yeah um so um abortion is is not a single voter issue like we don't have any of this divide in england but it's coming like i gave my views on roe versus wade and i had my dms flooded with english people english girls that i went to school with they were so outraged by by stuff that

I'd posted about it. And I'm like, incredible. We would never debate this. This is an American issue, which has resulted in me falling out with my English friends. So we weren't originally like that. Yeah. What do you and your friends talk about like in private? Such a good question. I don't have many, um, friends anymore, English friends anymore. Um, because of the way I am, um, entrepreneurial, um, critical thinking, not a feminist. Um, so I don't actually have many friends anymore but we talk a lot about the ones that i do have um we talk about men you know women talk about men a lot we talk about um like what about like like men that uh you guys are interacting with on a day-to-day basis like celebrities like no i don't care about celebrities

no no we'll talk about um like what we're looking for in a man like what kind of men we like i don't know we'll talk about like we'll talk a lot about politics like i'm really into this kind of stuff so i'll talk about this stuff with my friends um and they engage and are interested as well I'd like to say I don't have many friends I have very very few friends um I celebrate my birthday like I said the other day a year ago I had one friend at dinner with me one friend on my birthday because the rest can't handle who I am now um I'm only in my 20s so it's not like I've had years and years like a lot of the time we're friends with people who we um who we've been um who we happen to be with because of circumstance in school so we were put together and I've never

worked a normal job. Um, I've always just hustled basically. So I've never been able to make friends like colleagues like that. Right. Um, so all the friends that I have. Well, if you think the school friends are fickle, the work friends are probably even more fickle. I know. I know. Well, it's true. It's true. But, but I can tell the difference between you're, you're a work friend and like you're a friend, you know? Um, so we talk a lot about each other's lives, you know, helping each other. How was your day? What are you going through? that's what we talk about um I don't I never talk about like Kardashians and Love Island and all that rubbish I don't talk about that stuff yeah and then how different do you think your conversations

are than like uh I don't know a group of woke women such again amazing question so I had a friend that I used to be very friendly with and I used to say to she's a teacher and I used to say to her um so in September next year when the school year um you know when it comes like what are you doing are you gonna like become the psychologist you said you always wanted to be are you moving um so I asked her about her future I asked a question which was about growth and development she asked me do you remember when we were in school in the lunch hall and we were and you know remember when that guy threw that piece of paper and it was so funny that's the difference there's no like growth mindset I don't even think woke people are complaining all day like I don't

think they're sitting amongst their feminist friends and being like the patriarchy is getting us I just I just don't think they care about the same things that I care about like the last two years unfortunately I've spoken a lot about like tyranny um and things like that um but overall you know they're talking about probably more more fun light-hearted things I guess they're talking about the past I'm talking about the future it is something that I notice uh there are certain people in your life that you come across and uh they very much are still stuck in uh things that happened in the past um and uh things that they accomplished in the past and all that and there's some people you meet that are very Ford focused. And when I was younger, I probably had a more

black and white view of it, of like looking in the past is bad. Looking to the future is good. Now I think I've evolved those thoughts to just be like, are they happy? And whether it's somebody who looks to the future or somebody who looks to the past, like they may be happy doing that. And if they're happy doing that, it's like amazing, right? Like that is actually the right answer. And it goes back to this idea of like company culture. Some cultures people think are like, oh, that's a good culture. That's a bad culture. Well, you find out as you see more and more companies, it's like, there's no such thing as good or bad culture. It's all about a fit between the employee and the culture. So why is it that there's a certain culture? Some people are

like, I absolutely love it. That's the best place I ever worked. And other people are like, that place was hell. I hate it. How could those two things be true? It's because it's about the fit. It's not about good company or, uh, uh, culture or bad company culture. Same thing with the way people look at the future versus the past. Like, it's just, what do you, what do you find the most enjoyment in? I think the part that, uh, is scary and sad to some degree is the people who are not happy and look in the past. Yes.

Then you're like, oh, like just, you know, just be happy. Like, like pursue the happiness rather than pursue the like memories. Uh, but for the people who are happy doing that, then like knock themselves out. Right. Speaking of company culture though, um, and what woke people talk about. so I used to work as a journalist in London and um that was toxic because they were all woke and I was only 21 at the time so I didn't know about like woke I didn't know that I was so set in this mindset I didn't know who the hell I was I just fell away um and do you know that

you know the actor Henry Cavill uh I've heard of him yeah so he plays Superman very attractive and um he lives or lived around the corner from where our offices were okay um and um somebody had said oh I saw Henry Cavill on the streets the other day and one of the girls like I hate him this is the one that I mentioned earlier that was like I'm not shaving right so she was like I hate him and I was like oh why because of his comments about the me too campaign and she's just like yes Leia and you don't think that's bad how dare you you are the biggest like oh I was like whoa what did he say he said that um the me too campaign made him feel like he couldn't pursue a woman anymore and he's like excuse me for having you know old-fashioned traditional values but I

think a woman should be conquered conquered and pursued and he believes in courtship um and i totally agree so he said he feels like now he'll be accused of like sexual harassment because we're so we're so sensitive um so this girl in an office environment went after me and not one of the like senior leadership in that room said a thing nobody said anything it was okay to come after me um verbally because you know i wasn't woke and i want to defend something that was the craziest thing you saw inside of a media organization uh oh wow i've got such a good story for you so i was in paris um and i was working for the chinese and i yeah exactly so i was working for the chinese and um i went to cover an event um it was the huawei event 5g and i was interviewing a chinese person

from huawei and i wasn't allowed to say certain things and do certain things and i and i had all these uh Chinese people around me watching so you and I are in here right now just us imagine if we had all these people in here censoring and watching every question you asked and I was like wow like this is this is like uh censorship in real time um and it was only allowed to be a fluff piece and I wanted to ask about like I think they'd been like blacklisted in in America and I was going to ask them you know do why why was that you know why why were you blacklisted in America why would you why are you okay in Europe you know I was really wasn't allowed to ask anything um it had to be a fluff piece um so that blew my mind another thing which blew my mind as well

there was an Israel Palestine um um conflict yeah and protests in England in London and I had to like edit the clips to like overlay for the news um and I and I and I felt as I was sitting there I felt this power. I was like, wow, like I can really manipulate how this story is portrayed. Um, and I was like, wow, I can, I can do that because I have all this footage and I'm like, I could pick the Israel one first if I wanted of them crying, then I could pick, you know, and I could literally manipulate how the story goes out. Uh, so that really blew my mind. Yeah. It feels like, uh, inside of a lot of these organizations, um, it's kind of like a, college. So when people are on a college campus, like that is the universe to some degree. And the

people who start to look outside of the universe first, uh, university first, they end up, um, being in a, uh, um, a different place, right? Like mentally. So like most people on a college campus, what are they worried about? Like classes, uh, kind of all the social bullshit, uh, parties, like all that type of stuff. And like, if you have that one friend who's like, no man, there's like this big world out there after we graduate. And you're like, like, dude, lighten up, like have some fun right like whatever uh so like it's a very self-encompassing environment and people get very sucked into it and then when you like leave after like two or three years you're like who cares right but it's you had to like get out of it to some degree media companies i think are very

similar in that like inside of the media company they think that their media company doesn't matter which one you go to is the most important one and it's this like big amazing cool thing and then like when they leave i think they realize like oh nobody believes that bullshit like literally nobody in the real world is like, this is the truth. They just are like, that's one set of content creators competing with the rest of the content creators on the internet. And so I've talked to a lot of, uh, journalists, uh, two big secrets right now in the media world. It's like a bunch of them are leaving and some of them have like openly left, but there's a bunch that are considered the like standard bearers of the traditional media. Like they are out. They've

already like talk about quiet quitting they've already quit they're just waiting to see like what is the move that they can make from a career perspective that will put them in a good position but like if you sit down and grab coffee with them like they'll just tell you this place is bullshit complete fucking nonsense going on in here uh everything from the woke stuff to uh censorship knowingly sharing misinformation like also and like you're talking to somebody you're like, am I being recorded? Like, is this a prank? I thought that you were like inside the beast and like a piece of the machinery. I'm like, no. And by the way, like all my coworkers, they think the same thing, just like, we don't know what else to do. And so I think that the pendulum swinging

on the media is going to be one of these things where people are going to realize like, wait a second, even the media, the people who, uh, helped to really propagate a lot of this stuff over the last couple of years, even they're like almost getting like red pilled to some degree. and inflation is the canary in the coal mine. Oh, really? Why do all of a sudden there's tons of inflation articles about how inflation is a problem or the Bureau of Labor Statistics only has certain people

and they're manually going and getting at everything? Because guess who's getting fucked by inflation? The journalists that get paid nothing. And they are getting paid in cash. They have no equity. They have no investments. They have no – they're literally by their job. They are not allowed to make investments.

They are trapped in cash, and the cash is being eroded away at a historic rate. guess what their fucking weapon of discourse is they get out their computer and they start writing articles and they're like fuck these people and so in some way like that is the red pilling of the mainstream media is literally inflation is eating away at the journalists who cannot have investable assets it's so fascinating you say that because i met a journalist at the bitcoin conference um i won't say who obviously i met her at the bitcoin conference and she was asking me so like how do you make money so what do you do they're all leaving yeah she asked me

what do you do like are you comfortable on your own like you can say what you want and i'm like why i thought you were like the shit like you you're not happy and she's just like not really and that honestly was so fascinating and i think it's also just like the rise of social media like social media now is is different to how it was two years ago it's evolving just because we had it back in like 2014 13 doesn't mean it is what it is today um and also with with this with social media and information that we spoke about there's there's like a this new teaching of how to make money um you know smart work instead of hard work like that is a concept which i'm new to it's i i heard that for the first time when i was like 23 or 24 even i don't know like

two years ago or something like that not when i was like growing up in school i'd never heard about smart work. Um, so this kind of entrepreneurial, um, business, um, uh, content is waking people up globally. Like I do so much smart work. I don't work hard. I work smart. Um, I work hard when I want it, but smart all the time. And yeah, so these journalists are waking up to that and realizing like, Oh, I could have my own show. I could have sponsors. I could do this. I could do that. Um, and they also do feel censored as well. Um, and money as well they're not allowed to invest how much do you think my wife uh when she started a major media uh company how much do you think she was paid she was like two or three years out of school

she's publicly said it so i'll repeat it okay i haven't heard it so it's probably different as well wages are higher in america which is what i've realized compared to england i didn't know that um that would probably in england that would be like 24 000 pounds a year which is what like 27 000 a year or something like that i don't know it's pretty close yeah like 30 grand yeah Right. And she was living in New York city and she was like, Whoa. Right. And then over time, obviously as they go up and then like, you know, the editors or the executives or whatever, they get paid lots of money. And so, uh, it's fascinating to see, um, you know, these are people who, uh, in some ways you feel for them, right? Because you're like, look, uh, they are

doing the thing that they thought they wanted to do in life. They're not getting paid very well. uh and a lot of them don't care about the bullshit now some of them are fucking making the bullshit right uh and it's pretty obvious i think to see who is who because uh if you work at one of these major corporations for more than like five years in today's day and age like you have just become uh for the most part unless you're an investigative journalist or a war correspondent outside of those like you're pretty much a mouthpiece yeah 100 and i i think like the whole nine to five situation in general is going to decline like covid again it woke so many people up even you know remote work that's not something which people really considered or thought about

before covid now everyone's like oh i could work remote before remote work was like this luxury now it's like becoming more of a convenience and a normality social media everything everyone's making content everyone is making content once you realize that most journalists are just content creators on the internet all of a sudden like the the playing field is equal it's level and they're all competing for the audience's time and attention it's the attention economy by the way you're also competing with spotify fucking netflix and youtube right but like everyone's competing and uh just because you have some big corporation's name on the door nobody gives a fuck anymore the the audience does not care and you see it in the numbers yeah joe rogan was the most hilarious example they're

so they're so full of themselves these major news organizations and corporations that they can't even fathom that we don't care about you anymore they don't understand why rogan would get millions and millions and millions of views they they don't get it because they're so far gone and so up their own ass excuse my excuse my language that they just they don't get it um and for us it's it's so obvious it's like you're a mouthpiece you're repeating the same thing um you all say the same rubbish i mean do you remember the headline inflation is great why higher wages it's all bullshit there's no real conversation everything is censored um and i love that they just don't understand why nobody cares about them i don't remember the exact numbers but the last number

that i heard from the new york times is they had five million paying subscribers which is a lot right five million people who are paying them money every single month or year daily wire which Ben Shapiro, they now have Jordan Peterson and all that stuff, had, as of the last number I saw publicly, about 900,000 paying members. So if you look at that, let's just say that those are ballpark numbers. Daily Wire, which most people don't even know what the fuck that is, has one-fifth of the paying subscribers that the New York Times has. If you need any other data point to show the world is changing

and, like, the power is shifting, like the new york times been around for a hundred years daily wire well how old is that a few years six years right so you know whatever 10 years like whatever let's say they're around for 20 years yeah like it's just a whole different game going on and and so it just feels like um uh i'm always careful that like the machine like literally rage against the machine the individuals for the most part i think are actually good intentioned hard working like trying to do the right thing there are some bad apples for sure that uh make big issues but like it's the machine and actually what we've seen is some of the greatest independent voices used to be inside

the machine then they left and so like a lot of the people in the machine now they're just like the future great independent voices it's just like break them out like just convince them to leave i know and i wonder how far this is going to go like i don't know what the future looks like um and i don't know i think those that are woke are going to stay woke like if you have a woken up woken up in the last two years then you're you're staying asleep so i feel like there's going to be this um two kind of system society you know where you have like the the florida and texas and then the other rest of america this is this society whereby you have these two opposing kind of people some that want to take personal responsibility the others that don't want

to take any responsibility and want to push ridiculous agendas like drag queen story hour they're going to like work parallel side by side. And I don't know physically how that's even going to work because like, are we just going to keep going backwards and forwards with this pendulum or is like a civil war going to break out? And, you know, Florida really does break off or not, or, you know, we will move to El Salvador because El Salvador was the only place which actually put out some honest content about COVID and how to recover from it. I don't know whether we will start literally voting with our feet and leaving um so many amazing people that i know have left america because they just say it's just become it's just become you know to the state has become

too big it's too involved in your own life so i don't know what do you think i'm not gonna leave uh at least for the foreseeable future uh i still think that there's hope that it can like get back on track uh in a lot of different ways um but a lot of work to do yeah like and i think that's part of it is uh i recently tweeted and i said uh this is the super bowl for entrepreneurs especially in america we have so many problems we have to reshore manufacturing and supply chains and transition from an industrial age to a digital age like do all these things like who's gonna solve the problems but can america do that because i feel like the current administration are actively making things worse like on purpose i feel like they do things the greatest companies

in the world are still in america by far yes and uh that's despite the friction the headwinds like all that stuff uh which one is a testament to the entrepreneurs and the companies that that have been successful uh and then two is i think there's a pendulum swinging on the political side where uh people are starting to realize like wait a second um you know in some ways tupac was uh was right like they got money for wars but they don't have money to feed the poor like how how is that possible yeah right and uh again there's tons of nuance tons of complexity tons of generalizations that go into all this stuff but uh there's a lot of problems around the world we seem worried about when like let's fix our own shit yeah why did they give so much money

to Ukraine? You'd have to ask them that question. And every time someone's asked them, they have a different answer. That's what I mean. So like the system, like Biden is the system. He is the administration. And for me, there's just too many red flags, too many weird things, like the message they put out over the whole vaccine thing, like wishing death to the unvaccinated. What is that? Like, why are you pushing so much, so much divisive language? Why are you wishing death upon unvaccinated people why are you not empowering people to go to the gym eat healthy what's going on with bill gates buying all the farmland like there's so much weird shit going on right now and i don't i don't know where this is i just read books yeah and chill and try not to uh worry

about it too much yeah you can do that but you because you have an amazing setup because you're you're you're set up for i'm not gonna get pressured from uh from anyone but like i just at some point you just got to be like man there's a lot of stuff out there i can't control it's wild uh i want to understand but uh i don't trick myself into thinking that uh i'm going to change some of it but the things that i can control like let me go focus on that stuff yeah that's the only way before i let you go uh tell us about your book uh we haven't talked about it at all no it's all good but but uh but tell everyone uh real quickly i'm dressing bitcoin I launched that. I published it a year ago nearly. And it's basically a really easy guide to

understanding Bitcoin. It's kind of for the people who want to know about Bitcoin, but they feel overwhelmed and intimidated by all the major books out there. So it's very concise, really easy language. And it's just like an amazing starting point to learning about Bitcoin. It's very up to date with everything that's going on, even, you know, down to like El Salvador. It talks about the technicalities of the Bitcoin network, how that works, um, how, um, it's a hedge against inflation, um, deflationary asset, um, and all these things. Um, and also like politically why it's good. So from like a freedom standpoint, um, so I kind of talk about, you know, like free, um, fleeing tyranny, um, you know, always having your bags packed, like I said earlier.

Um, and so, um, yeah, it's, it's, it's, um, I'm really happy about it. You know, I'm happy that, that I did it. I'm happy that it's out there. Um, and I think it's a, an amazing way to get into Bitcoin. It's on Amazon. Um, there's a Kindle version, there's an audio version. Um, and yeah, it's a super easy read. Awesome. And, uh, where can we send people to find you on the internet? So I'm on Twitter, I'm on YouTube and Instagram and also TikTok actually. Um, so it's just my first and my last, my last name, Leah Heilpern. Um, yeah, so please come over and, um, I talk about all this stuff constantly, basically. So if you like this, you'll like the rest. Absolutely.

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