The Pomp Podcast - #1584 Polina & Anthony Pompliano | Why Bitcoin Is Going To $1 MILLION
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What's going on, ladies and gentlemen?
Today, we got a great episode with Polina Pompliano.
And in this conversation, I hold nothing back.
I just let you know exactly what's going on with the summer crypto, why Bitcoin is winning,
why so many people who are looking at the past are wrong, how people who actually understand
what's changing with artificial intelligence, Bitcoin, and all of this innovative technology,
why they're winning and why they're going to continue to win, why Warren Buffett's Berkshire
Hathaway is taking a big fat L ever since he stepped down, and then what's going on
with the banks and why the banks now all have to embrace Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies, that much
more. Here's my latest conversation with Polina Pompliano. All right, Polina, what's the first
topic? Okay. Last week, the SEC launched Project Crypto to help make America the crypto capital
of the world. SEC Chair Paul Atkin said, we will make sure the next chapter of financial innovation
is written right here in America. What do we think? Well, first of all, America already is
the capital of Bitcoin and crypto. You can check to see we have the most mining hash rate. We have
all the Bitcoiners. We've got the best liquid capital markets. We've got the ETS. We've got
some of the biggest crypto companies. We're winning, first of all. Second of all, how funny
is it? You know that quote that says, first they ignore you, then they fight you, then you win?
Yeah, but Theranos kind of ruined that one for me.
No, no, it didn't. Because that's exactly what happened. Because I think it's actually,
first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, and then you win. Well,
guess what? We're in the winning phase because they were fighting us. They were fighting us
for four years. And you could just look at it. It's like a scoreboard. The old regime, L,
they took that L hard. And Bitcoin and crypto won. We're inside the fort now. It was a Trojan horse.
We're in there. The SEC chairman is saying the revolution will continue. The president of the
United States, the revolution will continue. The banks, the revolution will continue.
Everyone's on board. Everyone is now lined up and they say, this is a thing that is going to
happen in the world. There's a lot of details that need to be figured out. There's regulation,
there's this rule, there's that rule, there's technology that needs to be built. People need
to get convinced to buy it, hold it, store it, adopt it, whatever. But the revolution
is unstoppable now. Bitcoin is going in every corner of the financial system. You're going to
see every single large financial institution, they're going to participate in this game.
The regulators, they're going to figure out the right rules. They're going to put them in place,
say, hey, we want people doing the right things, but we want this to thrive in America.
And the politicians, there ain't very many politicians dumb enough to get on the wrong
side of this because they realize that some of the most engaged voters, some of the people with
the most money and the people who got the longest time horizon because they're young,
want this to happen.
And so it's game on now.
And so Project Crypto,
think about 15 years ago,
people were worried about
is the government going to ban Bitcoin?
Now we got the regulators saying
we are going to make sure
this thrives in America.
Was that 15 years ago?
Yeah, of course, 2009.
Oh, wow.
16 years, whatever it ends up being,
depending on when you start paying attention.
And so if you take and you look at,
okay, hold on.
For a decade and a half,
you have had people who have been worried,
is the government going to stamp this out?
We have a Bitcoin president.
Almost everyone in the cabinet of the White House
owns Bitcoin in their financial disclosures.
The SEC, the CFTC, the OCC, the boom, bang, bong, bong, boom.
Every institution is saying,
we're going to let you do this now.
And so guess what happens?
Larry Fink, he's the OG of the traditional world
playing in this space now.
It's only been a year and a half since those ETFs.
But that was the shot heard around the world.
When BlackRock came out and they said,
we're going to do an ETF,
everyone said,
well, if Larry says that we're going to do it,
I guess we're going to do it.
And that completely changed the game.
And so from that moment forward,
there's before the ETF history of Bitcoin
and there is after the ETF history of Bitcoin.
Most successful financial product launch
in Wall Street history.
it's the most profitable product at blackrock and all these other financial institutions they're all
trying to get in the game stable coins they're coming fast and furious bitcoin they're coming
fast and furious whether you like tokenization or not like game on that's all gonna happen and so
comes back to what you probably got tired of hearing me say back in 2017 2018 you know if
you go back and check the tape they're gonna tokenize everything tokenize the world remember
that saying oh i remember yeah i told you guys it was gonna have took longer than i thought
but here we are they're gonna tokenize all these assets they've now tokenized gold they've
tokenized dollars they're gonna come start tokenized equities now they're gonna keep
moving down the line all gonna get tokenized on top of that now that the pandemic has transpired
and gone away i for you know for five years i gave myself a five-year time out but now i can
officially say it again the virus is spreading the virus is spreading i told you guys that pre
2020 yeah since pre-20 if you were not here around from uh before 2020 just to understand there was
only one idea that i had i had a lot of ideas but one that really was described everything it was
this is a virus if you have the virus you're a bitcoiner you understand how this works you see
the world this way you meant like a mind virus well it's funny enough i didn't know this at the
time. But actually since then, many people who were into Bitcoin before me, it was told me that
on some of the early forums and things like that, they actually did refer to Bitcoin as a mind
virus. And so it's always this funny thing of like, you're always standing on the shoulders
of giants, people who are smarter than me, who saw Bitcoin earlier, who understood it better.
Like they actually came up with it. And I didn't even know that. Yeah. Right. But now you fast
forward and you say to yourself, if I understand Bitcoin, I'm patient zero, maybe in my group of
friends what do i do i tell you then i tell you then i tell you i won't shut up about it and i
keep just hammering away and eventually now you're infected and they're infected and they're and then
guess what larry fink got infected the president of the united states got infected you know they're
all going to be infected you know the virus is spreading you know who i didn't expect to get
the virus and he claims he hasn't but he's got to do it is jamie diamond jamie diamond he's in baby
Another positive crypto related headline is that Jamie Dimon said, so JP Morgan just did
a deal with Coinbase and he said, it's what the customer wants.
It's not what JP Morgan personally wants.
First of all, JP Morgan, the bank is not a personal, he's talking, whatever, but that's
dumb, but he's doing it.
I think that all of these banks realize you cannot take a personal stance.
You cannot take a political stance.
We can talk about the pressure they're about to come under all these major banks.
They're about to get it's going to be mayhem on Wall Street with the banks.
Because whether people want to talk about this or not, it's just it is what it is.
it happened. And we can't go back and change what happened, but we can at least acknowledge
what happened. And then moving forward, I'll decide that's not good. We have seen in this
country multiple times in the last 20, 25 years where the financial institutions have tried to
implement their own personal or their own organizational view of the world onto their
customers. They have gone and they have been abrasive. They've made things difficult. They've
refused service to people. They have even targeted certain customers based on the companies they work
at, the industries that they're in, et cetera. Now, some of them are matters of the bank could
get in trouble. So for example, if you go back and you look at something like cannabis, if you
remember, there was all these stories that used to come out about the cannabis companies dealt with
a lot of cash. They had all of the armed security. They couldn't put the money in the bank. Now the
banks are sitting there saying it's still federally illegal. We can't violate federal law. That's a
different story. When it came to crypto, what was happening was not, oh, we are scared of holding
the crypto assets because they're really volatile and that brings risk to our business. That's not
what was happening because they weren't allowed to hold the crypto assets. What they were doing
is that they were actually targeting crypto companies, cash accounts. So now what you're
basically doing is you are discriminating against an entire industry. And now it's coming out that
they also were doing it based on political beliefs. And so I know I had conversations
with many banks where they would ask me more questions or they would go and they would
actually ask. There's one bank in particular who actually asked me to move public stocks
out of their bank. They've been really good to me, right? It was kind of an awkward conversation
for them. But what's up with that? Public stocks? Then I have friends who actually had their bank
account shut down. I have friends who had all kinds of issues in terms of that. You could even
argue at the national level, we had at least one bank, at least one, maybe more, where the
Regulator stepped in and they killed the bank, even though the bank was solvent, simply because they had a crypto business.
So, as usually happens in these situations, they ignore you, they laugh at you, they fight you.
They put up a great fight.
It was painful.
There are companies who will tell horror stories for the rest of their lives.
But we're the last man standing.
And now what's happening is what you are seeing is that young people have an inherent distrust of these legacy players.
Think about if you're, I don't know, I'll just make up a name, Charles Schwab.
You're getting your butt kicked by Robinhood, right?
And now all of a sudden, a company like Robinhood or public.com or Webull or Coinbase or Kraken
or eToro or Gemini or name one of these businesses, they're rolling out credit cards.
They're rolling out cash accounts with stable coins.
They're rolling out high interest savings accounts.
They're rolling out this and that and this and that.
Wait a minute.
I'm starting to think, do I need a legacy bank account?
Probably still, yes.
10 years from now,
if the traditional guys don't innovate,
if they don't change what they're doing,
what do you think an 18-year-old today is going to say?
I'm just going to hold my cash in stable coins.
I'm going to hold it in Bitcoin.
I'm going to have a credit card with my company
that gives me crypto and stock exposure.
It's a whole new financial system,
whole new financial players.
And that's what these new challengers,
are betting on. That's crazy to think that somebody could unseat the legacy players of
the U.S. financial system. Well, they're not serving their customers. And so this backhanded
compliment thing, like, oh, the customers want it, we don't want it. You think that's earning
you points? If the customers want it, you serve the customer. Again, sure, maybe. But it kind of
comes back to this idea of, on the other hand, the people who are competing are saying, we
we understand this. We realize that this is the future. They're talking the talk. They're
walking the walk. They're showing people that they understand the assets. Classic innovators
dilemma. Classic innovators dilemma. But now everything changed. You know why? Because now
the older people, the people with a lot of assets, they say, hey, wait a second. Hold on. Hold on.
These kids are making money. I want to make money. I'm 68 years old. I got 25, 50, 100,
500 million dollars in your bank that kid's kicking my ass his portfolio is exploding
i'm earning three percent on a bond what are we doing here help me get access to the stuff or i'm
gonna have to go somewhere that will yeah and so it's no longer just a young person's game you now
have people and i used to say all the time like oh the boomers don't get it it's all young people
whatever and the comments will be filled with people i'm a boomer i got bitcoin i got this i
understand this but whatever so my apologies yeah my apologies the people are right this is an idea
has nothing to do with age right sure are young people a little bit more open to trying new things
they don't have a bank account yet you know or or they don't have a brokerage account so when they
first get one they might be open to a tech forward one all that yeah sure but this is an idea if you
got a brain you can evaluate it and if you can evaluate it and you're intelligent you're going
to end up on the side of i need to adopt this i need to hold some of this and so that's where
this was all going is these financial institutions are realizing it is as clear as day. If we don't
embrace it, we have risk of being disrupted. And now you have companies, right? Because if you're
a big financial institution, well, we don't need all those little people, those little retail
people. Who cares about them? We got the big businesses. Well, now the businesses are putting
Bitcoin on their balance sheet. Now they're using stable coins. They're forcing the hand of the
financial institutions or they will go elsewhere. And so I think that what used to be this game of
like us versus them is now becoming a game where everyone realizes the opportunity and everyone's
racing towards it. And so it's no longer us versus them in the sense of like, there's going to be
mass disruption. Instead, what you're going to see is all the big banks. Jamie Dimon says they're
going to do it. The Bank of America CEO says they're going to do it. All of the CEOs are
saying when we get the right approvals or once we make the decisions internally like we're in
and can you just tell us really quickly what the jp morgan uh coinbase partnership is so this one
is basically jp morgan clients are going to be able to transfer money more easily credit card
points all that kind of stuff over to coinbase buy crypto assets on the coinbase and then vice
versa is that you can go the other way now one of the big deal for coinbase don't you think it's a
big deal for jp morgan yeah i mean the friggin largest most trusted crypto uh exchange brand
in america they could have done it with bank of america they could have done with all these things
right there's a heck of a lot of traditional banks there's only one coinbase so you look at
it from that perspective is actually coinbase is way more uh kind of unique than any one bank now
Now, obviously, if you go back and you take a look at, the reverse is also true.
People will be able to take their assets from the digital world and go over.
I think that Coinbase is now reaching a point where it may be too large to be acquired.
I think the market cap now is probably, I don't know, $100 billion, maybe $75 billion,
whatever the number is, is big.
And so when you look at it from that perspective, you say to yourself,
Yeah, I think as a public company, this is no longer, oh, we could go consolidate these.
And so what happens when Robinhood buys a traditional player?
What happens when Coinbase buys a traditional bank?
Is that a future that we're headed towards?
Everyone's talking about the banks will buy.
Well, I don't know.
Maybe it's the other way around.
We're going to find out.
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polka dot.com is now you have a company that look they no matter how many people slice it right
people like coinbase don't like coinbase think this is what they're probably one of the most
important companies to onboarding people to buying bitcoin in the history of bitcoin
right they launched i think 2012 or 2013 i think they started a company in 2012 and people started
using 2013 um when you go and you you look at it you say look that they were incredibly important
to it. Now, did they expand past Bitcoin? Yeah. And some people don't like that in the hardcore
Bitcoin community. That's fine. You don't have to like everything the company does. But they
were incredibly important to onboarding people to Bitcoin. Now, they've been holding some Bitcoin
on their balance sheet, but now they're starting to increase it. And I think that what you're
seeing is you are going to see more and more public companies start to buy Bitcoin.
Now, the question that I have, the question that a lot of people in traditional financial system
don't want to talk about, why are we not putting more pressure on these companies
that are holding so much cash and treasuries.
What are you doing?
You're destroying shareholder value.
It's crazy.
Berkshire Hathaway, listen, let's have a little conversation.
Okay, let's-
Come close.
We know, we know.
Listen, no, no, no, listen.
Warren Buffett is one of the best investors of our lifetime.
Point blank period, give the man a trophy,
go put him in the retirement home.
Because guess what happened?
When he retired in May, Berkshire stock down 15%, 1.5% down.
Thank you, Phil Rosen, at opening bell for that data point.
The S&P, 500 largest companies, had outperformed Berkshire by 26% since Buffett has left.
Okay.
So the S&P is going up, Berkshire is going down.
Guess what's been happening at the same time that's been going on?
Berkshire continues to hold cash.
30 percent, three zero, 30 percent of Berkshire balance sheet or I'm sorry, a value is sitting
in cash.
30 percent of Berkshire's value is sitting in cash.
What are you doing?
What are you guys doing?
Are you saying that you're not smart enough to find places to put that cash?
That's basically what they're doing.
So here's my theory as to why Warren Buffett gave us the peace sign.
and retired. Game's up. Game is up. He's had nowhere to put the money. He has too much cash.
What is he going to do with it? If he continues for another three to four years
as running Berkshire, I believe his reputation will start to be tarnished
because what's going to happen is that there's a massive destruction of value
to Berkshire shareholders
because they operate from a world
that does not exist anymore.
It doesn't exist.
We live in a world
where they are going to debase the currency.
You cannot hold cash for long periods of time,
especially a lot of cash.
And so if you continue to think
that you are going to take that cash
and you are simply going to buy
companies that are productive,
you're getting your butt kicked by gold gold has outperformed the stock market the last 25 years
bitcoin destroyed it the game is changing because we now have human intervention into the market
where they're going to debase the currency at a accelerated rate and therefore will buying things
for less than their worth always be a good idea of course that core concept's not going anywhere
if bitcoin's worth 100 grand and it's trading for 90 buying it would be a good idea
But the problem is that when they are trying to buy these things, they're looking at historical
valuation data.
And so they say, oh, historically, there was, I'll just make up, in X industry, there's
a 5X EBITDA multiple.
Right now, it's trading at nine times EBITDA.
We can't buy it because it's overvalued.
Okay.
We're going to wait until it trades at three times EBITDA.
Okay.
Probably never happens.
Why do I say that? Not because there's not going to be market corrections and all that stuff in
the future, but because we are now living in a world where as soon as those market corrections
happen, the central bank will step in. The politicians will step in. Bear markets have
been outlawed. Interesting.
Prolonged bear markets are definitely not coming back.
That's so interesting.
And so what used to be, I'm going to wait for this big crash, like 2008, 2009.
And when that happens, for six months, gold went down like 50%.
Stocks went down.
All this stuff was cratering.
You got time.
Because part of the value investor entire strategy is to buy distressed assets.
Right.
Nothing is distressed anymore.
There's plenty of distressed investing.
It's just not in the same pockets that they're used to. And they're definitely way less opportunities at the scale that they need. And so I actually think what Berkshire should do is Berkshire, with the transition of Buffett out, should say, we understand that this change has happened.
And I actually do think that they recognize it.
It's just that if they change their strategy,
a lot of their current shareholders will throw a fit.
And what they should say is,
we now are going to expand our investment strategy
to include non-productive assets
that will specifically benefit
from the debasement of the currency.
Now, do you know why I know that they know this is happening?
Because Buffett's talked about it.
Buffett has talked about the debasement of the currency.
He's talked about the national debt.
He's the one who came up with the idea
that if we don't have a balanced budget,
politicians aren't up for reelection.
He knows this is an issue, right?
He knows the trade deficits are issues.
He's talked about that.
Like, he's not a dummy.
He's actually incredibly intelligent.
He understands how the system works.
But the game is changing now.
And when the game changes,
a lot of people will say,
oh, this time is different.
It's the worst four words, blah, blah, blah, all that stuff.
I agree.
Except for the Federal Reserve,
the Treasury, the White House,
and all these politicians, they learned a new playbook. And that new playbook is when you see
danger, cut rates and print money. And they're perfect at it now. And it's happening all over
the world. I saw a data point recently in 2022, three years ago, one third of all provinces in
China, one third, one out of every three, were spending 100% or more of their provincial
revenue to service their debt.
So think of a province, just think of it like a state in America.
Be like New York State saying, we spend 100, 125, 150% of all revenue we collect every
year just to pay the interest on our debt.
well, guess what you do? You got to borrow more money. So when you borrow more money,
it accelerates that. That was in 2022 was one third. I don't know what the number is now,
but it's got to be higher. And so this is a global phenomenon. And so I've never talked
about this publicly, but I'm going to tell you probably one of the most important realizations
that I've had over the last six months or so. Every great investor has one idea
that they understand deeply throughout their career.
And that they double down on.
And then what they do is they go find
as many different ways to express that idea
in the market as possible.
So we're just talking about Buffett.
Buffett's entire career was predicated on one simple idea.
You can buy things for less than they're worth.
And then he went and found hundreds of ways to do that.
He found public companies, he found private companies, he took minority stakes, he took
majority stakes, he did it off of dividends, he did all this stuff.
Buying something for less than it's worth, the value investor, that was Buffett's one
idea, and he killed it, killed it.
He made an absolute killing on that one idea.
I believe the one idea that I've been allocated, that I think this entire generation has been able to be allocated, is that they are never going to stop printing money.
If they are never going to stop printing money, your job is to find as many ways to express that one idea in investment opportunities.
gold, Bitcoin, real estate, certain companies, like however you want to express it.
My chosen method of expressing it originally was Bitcoin. I think there's many others that
people will consider over time. You could argue that Bitcoin, Bitcoin treasury companies,
Bitcoin ETF, all this stuff. The one idea is that they are never going to stop printing money.
That is our generation's simple conclusion. The people who understand it are going to do amazing.
the people who don't are going to suffer. They're going to fall behind. If you look at the S&P 500
priced in dollars, it is up about 100%, I think, since 2020. Pretty good. If you price that same
S&P 500 in Bitcoin, it is down 85% since 2020. If you simply were to denominate the S&P 500
in a hard currency rather than a debasing fiat currency, you went from up significantly
to down significantly. That's the intelligence test. What are you going to do, kid? You're
going to play the old game or are you going to play the new game? And plenty of people will hear
me say this and they'll yell and scream. And they're going to say how stupid it is, how young
people don't understand. They've seen all these cycles, all this stuff. Bitcoiners have seen
more market crashes than actually the stock investors have. You can measure experience in
years or you can measure experiences in bull and bear markets. Earlier this year, stocks went down
20%. Bitcoin went down 30 plus percent. Bitcoin in our bull markets goes down 30%, three, four,
five, six times. So what you're seeing is you're seeing a bifurcation. There are investors who bet
on the world never changing, the Buffetts of the world. And there are investors who bet on the
world changing. And what we are finding is that the investors who've been betting on the world
changing are doing way better than the investors who are betting on the world not changing.
Because what ends up happening is we go through these starts and stops in the economy. And right
now we are in an economic expansion. We are in an age of innovation. And what we are seeing is an
assault on every single business with new technology. So the internet was the last time
we saw something like this. And Buffett and value investors were historically very slow to adopt
these technology stocks because they were betting on the world not changing. Eventually, they
realized the world is changing. Artificial intelligence, Bitcoin, they are agnostic to
what industry you operate in. They don't care if you're a restaurant, a grocery store, if you're
some sort of tech company, if you're an accounting firm, a legal firm, it doesn't matter. Everyone
can use these technologies. So what you have is you have widespread change in the economy.
Naturally, the investors betting on change are going to do better than the investors betting
not on change. And if an investor has bought into a company that is going to resist change,
they're going to get their ass kicked. They're going to lose market share. And you're starting
to see this in certain industries. And so if you look at the S&P 500, 10 companies are drastically
outperforming. There's a guy, Mike Zaccardi. He recently showed that the 10 largest companies in
the S&P 500 are responsible for pretty much all of the earnings per share growth over the last
two years. 10 companies. Which ones do you think are actually embracing the new technology? Which
ones are funding the development of the data centers? Which are the ones that are developing
artificial intelligence? Which are the ones that are leaning into innovation? And so you can want
to be right or you can want to make money. But if you do not update your worldview to understand
that this innovation, this acceleration of technology progress is happening, you're going
to be left behind. And so sure, you can go and you can celebrate all this stuff about
these legacy businesses that are not embracing new technology. Good luck. See how long it takes
for you to catch up to the companies that are growing. And so I just think that we are in a
moment where the buffets of the world, the value investors, their core idea, buy things for less
than they're worth, 100% I agree with. I think that's an excellent idea. But what is actually
cheap? They're using historical valuations in a world where either fiat currency was not being
debased or was not being debased at the rate that it's being debased now. And so they're sitting
around waiting for the big crash. And instead, what we're seeing is the government will do
anything necessary, including destroy their currency in order to avoid the big crash.
And so that's going to be the tail of the tape for the next 20 years. And I think young people
are better positioned to understand this because they grew up in somewhat of this age of innovation
to actually see what was happening with this technology.
That was great.
And my last point on the summer of crypto
is that the CFTC will launch an initiative
for trading spot crypto asset contracts.
And you said in a tweet,
in a decade, we went from critics claiming
Bitcoin would be banned by the government
to many people realizing Bitcoin
is going to save the legacy financial system.
If you can't beat it, you have to buy it.
That's true.
Think about it.
How many of these firms are now embracing Bitcoin because actually they realize that's
where the growth is, that's where new customers, new assets, new revenue come from, right?
You think that Bitcoin is not going to be adopted at the sovereign nation state level?
Everyone's talking about the strategic Bitcoin reserve.
Yeah, they're going to buy more Bitcoin, of course.
You don't think Bitbonds are ever going to get issued by the government?
Come on.
I don't know when it's going to happen, but it's going to happen, right?
You don't think that Bitcoin is going to start infiltrating balance sheets of companies that
are not just Bitcoin treasury companies?
Of course it is. You can't sit there and ignore our generation gets one idea or one idea is that they're never going to stop printing money. If you don't accept the idea, you're going to be at a disadvantage. And so what you're going to start seeing is what they call it circle of life. That's Lion King thing, right? Circle of life.
what happens in uh lion king one what do you mean pops dies young simba assumes the throne
remember lion king two i got kids i watched it uh our daughter simba oh old man young pup
assumes the throne so guess what's gonna happen in these companies oh boy the old
old lions, lionesses, they're going to be gone.
They're going to retire.
They're going to move out of their seats.
Yeah.
Young people are going to take over.
Have you seen the new Red Lobster CEO?
No.
He's like 32, I think.
Oh, really?
Killing it.
He put himself in the commercials.
He put himself in the commercials.
And you know what?
I watched it.
I said, I haven't seen a Red Lobster commercial
that I remembered in years.
This dude's killing it.
Immediately, think about that.
What regular corporate executive would be like,
let's do a campaign and I'll be in the commercial.
Somebody who's 32 years old
who understands how the internet works
and understands how social media works
and realizes that the CEO's in the ad,
that the ad's not only going to play on TV,
but it's also going to get a bunch of people talking online
and that he's going to be the best advocate for the brand.
so your point is that the guard is changing this generation is coming in with all of its ideas of
digital and the internet and bitcoin and i'm saying mufasa is moving off to the side and simba
is taking the throne mufasa yes his dad's name right yeah come on all right that's it for today
appreciate it
Thank you.
