The Pomp Podcast - #570: Isaiah Jackson on Black Bitcoin Billionaires

Episode Date: June 1, 2021

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you want me to get credit, unstoppabledomains.com slash r slash pomp. I don't know why the r is there, but that's what they told me. unstoppabledomains.com slash r slash pomp. All right, let's get in this episode with Isaiah. I hope you enjoy this one. Anthony Pompliano runs Pomp Investments. All views of him and the guests on his podcast are solely their opinions and do not reflect the opinions of Pomp Investments. You should not treat any opinion expressed by Pomp or his guests as a specific inducement to make a particular investment or follow a particular strategy but only as an expression of his personal opinion this podcast is for informational purposes only all right guys bang bang got isaiah here with me what's going on man nothing much man

always good to see you especially miami i feel like you've been coming to miami more often now definitely every time i can and and really with uh mayor suarez doing the new stuff is easier now bitcoin is welcome so i'm coming he he clearly stated he wants miami to be bitcoin city oh yeah and i feel like he's actually taking steps towards it and i've seen it everywhere i've seen bitcoin stickers bitcoin people accept it i mean he has the white paper on the website come on man i mean he really wants this to come through so definitely a special uh place i come every time i can so people have forgotten that he did that he took the satoshi's white paper and he put it on the city of miami's website exactly and it's just sitting there and everybody can view it and he

even has a plan for people to get paid in bitcoin he has a you know ftx has the name on the miami heat i mean he's going all the way so yeah definitely a beautiful place to come for bitcoiners especially now all right so what's not so beautiful is a green piece uh recently said they're not going to accept bitcoin anymore and you had this epic rant so just tell what happened and what are your thoughts oh yeah well i think it was a culmination of seeing all of this coordinated journalists and people in the media talking about the environment with Bitcoin. This is an old argument. I mean, this was 2017 when I first saw that. And we've even seen the argument against Amazon because of the environment back in 99. So it's just an old argument. I think

the people who are in power who want that environmental money from the EPA or from the government, they have to keep it going. Bitcoin is just a new target. It's a new kid on the block. They are saying it. And Greenpeace in particular, when they said they're not accepting it, I was like why are you you know basically succumbing to the environmental pressure but that's who pays them so uh you know you kind of have to go with it and the rant the only reason it was kind of epic it was like i said a culmination of just seeing i was like i know these people are working together i mean who sent the email out where all these people all of a sudden talking about the environment do you think that they're actually like colluding with each other like there's like

a secret meeting and they all are get on the conference call and they're like i don't know if it's a secret meeting but it's different uh it's different media places and i think they may send out an email like hey this may be the thing to talk about um because it happened right in a row it was like six or seven media stories i saw within a two-week span and then greenpeace comes out they're not accepting it and i'm like okay well um they're so big you know it may you know may impact people i've seen people even say i don't want to buy bitcoin because it may impact the environment i was like this just popped up out of nowhere so greenpeace them doing it um you know that's why that rant was what it was but at the end of the day i just think they were scared of

whatever ramifications may come from it and then they'll figure it out later i actually don't think that there's like a secret meeting or like a conference call but what i do think is that they're all colluding with each other because there's a lack of original thinking that goes on inside these large organizations what they see is they see you know let me go on uh such and such uh media outlets website oh look their their hit piece on bitcoin's energy consumption is their number one article we don't have one of those we should go write an article and they task somebody and they say hey go write this and in some cases the journalists may not even know why they're being assigned something oftentimes right but also there's sometimes where

literally these idiots are sitting there waiting to write the hit piece right they're like oh the price fell finally i can write it not look like an idiot and so i think that it's um it definitely feels like there was a big wave uh and nobody is going to explain in any kind of uh competent way that anything changed in the information as to why all of a sudden this is an issue, but it wasn't an issue six weeks ago or six months ago. And they accept the petrodollar. It's in the name. That's way more energy inefficient than Bitcoin.

And we already have the stats. It's a mute point at this point. I mean, we already know Bitcoin doesn't use anywhere as much energy consumption as gold, as banks, as pretty much anything. I mean, I think Christmas lights uses more energy consumption than Bitcoin at this point. So it's a mute point. And I think it is colluded simply because of that. It's an argument that is really just to get people to not do it.

And that may be the influence on Elon Musk, you know, maybe switching, switching his position. I don't think he switched, though. But that's why I say I don't I didn't think that was forever. I think he just said it. And then he realized, you know, maybe we can solve it with Michael Saylor to have meetings, Bitcoin mining council. So I don't know all of this stuff coming at the same time. It seems like there's something going on as far as my guess is that the fact that Tesla did not sell any cars for bitcoin probably played into some of this right which by the way means

that bitcoiners are smart yeah right uh but two is that uh how do you stop taking the payments and not have to answer the question as to why you're not accepting it oh this is a kind of a good cop out but they didn't sell any bitcoin it'll be very interesting to see if they bought more when the price fell so aggressively oh yeah well i think long-term plan they're going to use their their energy at some point to mine bitcoin i think that's the ultimate plan it's just all this stuff in between is just nah it's just noise um and i think because he has teamed up with michael saylor or they had that meeting and we have seen what their discussions are about you know it's only 10 of the mining it's not like it's a big thing but the fact that they are being transparent

trying to do these things i think they're just trying to succumb as well but it's it's a good thing right i mean i guess you want to try and make it as as energy efficient as possible would you renewable energy what do you think of the mining council um at first you know it was like a shock like why would you even talk to elon he's not even you know he doesn't mind um but the miners that did join they were reputable and the people that were there they you know had a discussion but it's nothing wrong with a discussion i mean it's not a big thing and i think a lot of people were mad at first again because they didn't look into it but again it's only 10 of the miners in the world and they already do that they are they're already transparent they already give out

the information so um you know the net net of it i think is just uh a meeting they had and we'll see what comes of it i i forget who said it um but i saw somebody i think maybe from galaxy or whatever uh came out and said look maybe the word council gives this like a feeling of like oh you have to come to us and we as the council will uh will approve or make decisions uh and instead if they had said association right just by changing the the nomenclature all of a sudden the people be like ah cool okay well of course the miners have an association you know to to whatever and so uh when i saw that i was like man it's a really good point obviously they're going to change the name but they didn't change the name they kept it as counsel and and people said it felt segwitish

like it felt like uh a pushback but at the end of the day again segwit was like a you know you are not saturday night this is sort of like it's just a meeting it wasn't a backroom uh thing so you know not not really bad net net of it but we'll see what it's one of the funny things uh to me in the bitcoin world where there's a fine line right like i think most people in bitcoin this is an over generalization but but most people uh they believe in free speech they believe in freedom of association right they believe in the ability for if you want to go have a meeting go have a meeting you want to go and do something go do it right whatever uh but the free market will kind of take over the social construct all that kind of stuff uh by the way if you go and you do something

stupid you can't be upset then if somebody calls you stupid for doing it right um but at the same time uh there's been examples in history where people have had the meeting and they became a threat or they attacked bitcoin and the network and all this stuff and so uh it's a balance right between hey just because you have a meeting that's okay right and the next time i have whatever meetings you want but if you come you know if you come at the king you best not miss exactly shout out to the wire because again when as michael still would say the cyber hornets are on you you better be able to defend yourself and we self-regulate we basically those people that were against it or you know against it happening we kind of kicked them out the community i mean

it's just how we do and i think it's healthy as a marketplace of ideas yeah like you just said free thinkers and bitcoin everybody's free to argue and you know somebody that was in computer science like myself that's how you get good products they literally start off by critiquing you from top you don't get praise until you're a billionaire like nobody cares they're like yeah this is trash and this sucks so it keeps you sharp keeps you going i think bitcoin is do that awesome Mark Andreessen recently gave this interview, and I'm going to paraphrase the quote that he said in it. But he said, listen, for 2,500 years, we have found that the only way to get progress from the default state of misery and just despair is to be able to freely think, write, and argue. Those things are actually what create the progress, not, okay, nobody do anything.

because when you have a world of nobody do anything man you get no progress still yeah and it's boring i mean i mean i even in bitcoin i look for people to argue with sort of just to keep it fun because when it's an echo chamber of ideas it's like all right we all agree whatever but you're right yep marketplace of ideas and and definitely pushing what you believe i respect somebody that i feel is wrong as long as they have conviction in what they say and and that's what big ones do you keep using the phrase marketplace of ideas and then in the same interview it reminded me uh he says that uh we should seek marketplace of ideas not a marketplace of an idea and the s on the end of ideas is really important right that's a very important s

because the uh the the and he's talking specifically about kind of legacy or corporate media and he's talking about look there is no marketplace of ideas with an s right it's just there's one idea that is what everyone is supposed to cover right talk about and if you stray from that then literally you are shunned from the community and i think that the what makes bitcoin so unique is that there's argument all day long right and some of it is just completely entertainment purposes only especially social media i mean you got people with you know cat logos and moon boys and whatever but the lambos yeah so you don't have a profile pic but yeah it's all fun and games to me i mean that's why i like conferences so we can see people in person and then people can argue

that's why even uh on my show a daily show the gentleman of crypto we have fuck bitcoin fridays so you can show up in person and tell us why you don't like bitcoin or why you disagree with something we said what do people say i mean people love it i mean it's something that but they show up and actually say like well we've only had about two arguments but most people come on and they argue what other people are saying like yeah this was trash or this sucks but most people uh the arguments we've had they have been entertaining because most of them don't know what they're talking about but yeah it's great and like you said on social media you see it you see the disagreements but it's just good good exercise one of the arguments recently that's

been fascinating to watch is this whole idea of a marathon uh the mining business um that uh up until literally today they've basically said two things one they were going to mine these ofac compliant blocks right which basically meant they were going to censor some transactions uh and then two was uh the upgrade of new software they essentially were refusing to accept that upgrade or to participate uh yeah yeah very intentional um and so today it came out new ceo uh over the last 30 days uh fred teal and he basically just said look we're gonna accept the upgrade we're not gonna censor transactions like all the things that i think the community thought they should have done from day one yeah just start with it to their credit they listened

they're acting all that uh but i think it's a perfect example of there was arguing and you could say all you want that like the bitcoins were going after somebody but ultimately it meant that they had to bend to the will of the community to the social consensus right and so do you think that's a good thing or is that is there a better way to get that result without uh maybe some of the toxicity or uh the arguing or whatever you want to talk actually no i think um i agree with you i wish it was a better way but this is how we are as humans you have some toxic you have some good conversations. Whatever the pot of stew is, you put it together and we come up with something good. And I think, you know, with their decision coming out later, that pressure is because of

consensus. Again, we have a consensus mechanism built into the money. So, of course, with the people, our consensus is a part of that. So I think we have pressured a lot of people to basically change their minds. I mean, think about it. We got banks to capitulate. We can convince anybody. We shamed Mark Cuban into liking Bitcoin because he said it was bananas. like and he's a billionaire you got 17 year old teenagers talking about him on social media so i mean yes there are some you know different things people don't like but overall i mean there's some really smart people we need all of it i think and i think again freedom of speech is number one i i uh i really really like mark i think he's incredibly intelligent and um the

thing i respect the most about him is he goes and he does the work right so like there's a point where he was like all this is nonsense you guys are all idiots whatever and then literally like i don't know six weeks later i saw him on a podcast and he literally sounded smarter about all of and not just like at a high level right i'm talking about like very very um kind of in the weeds application specific stuff and i said this guy went and did a crash course he went and did the work and he came out the other side and he changed his mind and also you have to respect the fact that he changed his mind right with percentage of new information all that everybody gets it when they get it but with all that said one of the funniest moments i've seen over the

last two years is uh he tweeted something early on before the conversion and uh some anonymous or pseudonymous account on twitter literally said have fun staying poor and i literally was saying to myself wait a minute there is literally a pseudonymous account on a billionaire to have fun staying poor and that's what i like about us i mean even if it doesn't make sense we just we stick we stick to our guns it's more about the ethos right it was more about the message it was delivered exactly than it was about yeah and i'm sure we got accuracy yeah and i'm sure it got his attention just like it has other people. I mean, they can say they don't have that social pressure, but when you're on social media a lot and you start seeing it from a bunch of accounts,

and again, anonymous, pseudo-anonymous account, he's Mark Cuban. He could just ignore it, but it's hitting him somewhere because he did the work. He learned about Bitcoin. He's accepting Dogecoin. I think he invested in, what was that, Polygon or something? Matic? Yeah, yeah. Recently. So he's doing the work. So you can only meet people where they are. And once they get it, they get it. If not, hey, Bitcoin, they'll figure it out. I know somebody who used to work with him. I don't think they still work with him.

Maybe they do, maybe they don't, in an investing capacity. And this is maybe five, six years ago. And he was really focused on artificial intelligence. I remember asking, like, well, what is he doing to kind of learn about it? I'm like, oh, you want to know what this guy does? He literally is going and getting the academic papers. He's going and getting the actual technology. And he's reading books like, you know, introduction to artificial intelligence.

Like, he's going to understand it better than the founders who are pitching him within a couple of weeks. and it feels like that's what he did on crypto that's right he did the work now all of a sudden he's very very intelligent when people come and ask him about stuff oh yeah absolutely that keeps you ahead because again you don't have to pay those people now now you learn it i got my own money and he went out and did it kudos to him yeah what do you think about laser eyes oh man it's it's funny i have mixed feelings because i started with laser eyes but then i was like i want to get them after 100k like people was like laser rays to 100k it's cool but i was like no that'd be cool but i want to get it after 100k until we go to a million hundred because i think that's the tipping

point of everybody who has these environmental debates or anything about the price or it dipping 100k is the end of it forever i mean you can't can't argue it so i think it should be over already but uh but 100k is the end of it and then we can laser raise until the end of our days so so you think 100k that that specific price point has like a psychological impact explain that more um so i think for one thing when we saw 10 000 as you know i remember early in bitcoin 2013 14 when i started um 10 000 i was like that is we're rich if we get to 10 000 so um i think that was for early adopters and i think the new wave which are millions of people way more people them seeing bitcoin at its all-time high 2017 hitting that point because a lot of people bought the top they

just saw it on the news fomoed into it and now they're in profit but seeing 100 000 it basically gets rid of the if you buy it at some point i'm losing money it's like just hold it like we have even stronger holders and i think i saw stanley drunken miller say 86 percent of people that bought the top did not sell in 2017 so they're getting stronger so i think that's a wild stat right that's everything he said was uh he wasn't into bitcoin crypto any of this stuff paul tudor jones called him up and said he said stan they're and they're from what i understand very good friends talk almost daily all stuff uh and paul tudor jones said to him uh of the people who bought bitcoin at seventeen thousand dollars eighty six percent held it as it dropped from

$17,000 to $3,000. Stanley Strickland was like, who the hell pulled something from $17,000 down to $3,000? Exactly. And Paul Tudor Jones was like, exactly. They're not selling. They're not selling. And he cited that recently as one of the reasons why he started

to actually become more, I don't even know, sympathetic is probably not the right word, just more interested in it, right? And doing the work, like you said. And I think that is a big proponent. And then psychologically again, we passed $100K. I mean, man, it's it's pretty much over and then at that point i think it's just accepted i think we're almost there it's just this last dip kind of scared people out but we're not worried about people

would let his hands like dave portnoy who said yeah whatever man he sold at the first sign of trouble i would hear but he came back again like we said people learn later they get it but again there's some people that are still new they'll learn they'll hold and then they'll become you know the future holders they'll be telling the class of 2022 and whoever the same thing but i think 100k psychologically that's the that's the point forget for a second the uh the substance of the content the reason why i love dave is did you see the video where he picked a shit coin and he did it like a like a college uh college selection yeah what was it safe moon he chose come on dave how much are you paying forget for a second the the coins he's picking all this up

but just the idea that i'm gonna go and i'm gonna treat it like a college selection video i mean he's he's creative but come on man and then his choice video his choice was safe moon and i was like jesus christ what is going on but i want to ask too did you see soldier boy did the same thing with his promotion what he did shout out to soldier boy love your stuff but he accidentally tweeted out the email of how much he got paid oh i did see he copied and pasted it right come on not this is like 2017 again ico day so i'm like come on but do you think it was how about me soldier boy i got you man i help you do what you got to do uh but yeah i mean it's just you think no i don't think so i think he may have just did it quickly like maybe on his phone i don't know

but if it was it was genius because he got a more because he got more engagement right so um and plus i thought the price was low i was like 24 000 he got 24 000 if they got 240 000 yeah something like that i don't know but uh either way it's just this has been going on since the mcafee days nothing new um but it's just funny you know i flew down to the bahamas and went on john mcafee's boat no no i didn't know that you went to go talk to him or just hang out like no i went i record a podcast that's what i was gonna say yeah i flew to uh bahamas he told me where he was and i brought my brother with me oh yeah which one i mean crazy business and we went on his boat and uh he got hammered he was having time of his life that's right uh

and uh it was the craziest experience because this guy had guns every i mean everywhere and at the end we did a whole interview i put up on youtube you watch it you're like i gotta watch whoa but at the very end he says you want to take a picture i said sure man and so he goes all right come on with me we go up on the back of the boat uh up top and uh he's got like a shotgun he's got a rifle he's got all this stuff he goes here you take this one hey bro i'm all good man and he said to me he said uh oh yeah your followers wouldn't like if you were holding the gun i said no i'm pretty sure they're cool with me holding the gun i don't want to hold your gun hey man i love your job but hey i don't know exactly what you've been through brother

look when i was hanging out with them i'll tell you this though and it's very fascinating right when you see somebody like that what you realize is my biggest takeaway when i left is everyone thinks this guy's crazy this guy's way smarter he's way more intelligent than people think he is right we interviewed him as well and he was drinking his whole bottle of wine the whole interview he started from when he started i think college all the way up to like all his career i mean again fascinating man super super smart i mean i think his antics get you know i mean that's what people like to see but again intelligent very smart man and i don't know what he's doing now as far as with the case is he locked up i think he got arrested he got arrested yeah well

he was on the boat when we talked to him so yeah yeah i think as long as he stayed on the boat he was cool and then he got off i think he got off somewhere they got him exactly and it wasn't in the u.s but they still got him um all right so you recently posted this video uh of the banks and uh absolutely hysterical right so you basically filmed individual banks like the built like the physical buildings here in miami and then you were like yo jb morgan remember when you got fined you're 900 million dollars or whatever for uh for for gold and silver market manipulation hey you know hsbc what about the cartel uh how much did you get fined there and you just went bank by bank by bank by bank why does nobody else talk about this like why is it

that when we see you do something like that it was like oh wow like yeah that's like super compelling why doesn't the media cover it that way um because that's who pays the salary you we all work for somebody i mean we're all adults here and you can't talk bad about the people that fund the politicians who are on your show it is what it is but at the end of the day the bitcoin ethos was started out as competition or as a opposition to the banks because of what they've done historically and it was just pointing out things that are very easily googleable if that's if that's a term just use google you can see it for yourself um and the things that they've done especially with writing bitcoin in black america in my community i need people to realize that these people are do not

have your best intentions their business they do what they do they get off with it sometimes they pay fines whatever that's their business but when you know that and you know there's a better money system why would you not use that so i was just pointing that out and again i'm not good at tiktok it took me like 45 minutes to do it it was very good it was like 40 seconds and shout out to my wife for helping me or fiance i should say soon to be wife for helping me because i don't i don't know how to use the new stuff i feel like an old man i'm doing that tiktok but uh yeah it came out okay how old are you 32 you're 30 all right so you're the same age as i am exactly and uh i went on tiktok one time and i could not figure out how to use it in terms of creating content and so then

i said i'm just going to be a consumer on this one this is my third download i've deleted it twice because i tried and i was like jesus christ i can't i don't need i mean there's so much stuff but i guess once you sit down and you have you know your time with it i was like i'll try it you know shout out to my social media manager ashley she has convinced me to do it she was like you know just try it see what happens is working i guess i mean that just came out this morning and that's i think the most engagement i've got on twitter in a while so uh i mean the biggest thing it's not about social media but information people need to know this because then people dig deeper and that's what i want just how important to take the right message but put it into the

right kind of medium at this point right so like you could have just typed that up on twitter but it's the fact that like it was done in a creative way that's really what actually makes the message kind of go viral? Oh, yeah. Well, the biggest thing I think now is kids. I think people need to realize no child under the age of 12, almost 13 now, has lived in the world without Bitcoin. So if they're on TikTok, that's where we have to meet people where they are. And people say it all the time in our community. But if they don't realize that kids are the ones that realize gamification, the ability to send digital money, they live in a digital world. They understand this stuff. That's what I'm focusing on. So if TikTok is the way, that's the way. If teaching

a summer camp this summer, which I am doing, that's the way. Because this next generation needs to understand how important this is. So they grow up with it. They're going to be even more hardened than we are. I mean, we're basically setting the stage for them to come along. So doing that, that's the reason why. What is the summer camp? The summer camp, the Bitcoin summer camp will be in Charlotte, North Carolina. First time ever in Charlotte with innovative learning. It's a 501c3 after school and summer camp. And Bitcoin will be a part of it july the first monday of every july of july first week um so anybody that wants to sign up sign up start uh in two weeks uh we we have partnered with big give to raise money shout

out to everybody who has donated and we want to keep it going because there's also a crypto kids camp in inglewood uh with naja roberts uh she had the very first one we're doing it on the east coast she's on the west coast so trying to get that going because again we see the importance of kids learning this information how old are the kids that are good at this uh grades six through 10 at my camp at her camp i believe grades uh 5 to 10 okay so grades 6 through 10 most of these kids don't know anything about economics money finance any of this stuff and in some way if you can teach them about it before kind of the system gets to them you don't have to teach them to unlearn things you can just teach them to learn right from scratch oh yeah and and my mom is a

teacher grandmother's teacher i'm a former teacher we've seen the public school education system they don't teach you finances. They don't teach you about balancing any type of account. Bitcoin does all of that, teaches you the history of money. You go down the rabbit hole of technology. All these things are important. And I think that starting early, it gets ingrained in them that this is what's coming anyway. So we might as well start now because we didn't have that during the internet age. I remember we thought of it as like an option to learn the code, which we really should have taken serious because we could have built some of the Facebooks or Googles. But that is, you know, it is what it is. And we're trying to change that now. I think the first time you

came on the podcast maybe a year and a half two years ago at this point right uh how has the receptiveness or the understanding of bitcoin in the black communities across america changed so far is there progress oh absolutely i think um you know it's funny price drives everything yeah so price goes up a lot of people believe you but also too i mean it's just it is what it is um because a lot of people this is their first time investing so they they need to see the win on the money side but they also understand um that there's something wrong with our economy i mean the fact that we printed so much money i believe 25 of our total supply just in the last six months i mean jesus christ how how much more can we print inflation is increasing and having that

second option is viable and then covid was like i mean that shocked all of us that was a black swan event within a black swan event of bitcoin we didn't see that but once it happened i think that's what got people to understand maybe there's a different way bitcoin may work you know cryptocurrencies you know whoever wants to deal with them that could work as well but um i think long term people understand what's coming so it got easier uh you know to explain and i think the pushback kind of stopped i haven't had much pushback only a few people who haven't even read the white paper uh or people that don't know but most people are like i'll at least learn a little bit uh to get it started especially with you know billionaires getting involved unfortunately i mean

talking about eight years but they need to see that and then yeah they're doing it it feels like another driving factor here is uh there's a whole bunch of studies that show the bottom 45 percent of americans who happen to usually live in inner cities who are minorities all this stuff right that we just know the deck is stacked against a lot of folks in these communities uh the bottom 45 percent experience inflation way more drastically than the top 40 percent right yes and it's just merely uh simple things like hey if you got a bunch of investable assets versus not of course the person that doesn't have investable assets you're going to have a hard time with inflation other things around the percentage of let's say food in terms of uh your overall monthly spending

right so if you're super wealthy you got a bunch of investments the amount that you spend on food probably actually not that high compared to somebody who literally you know 25 40 percent of their paycheck every month goes towards food right to feed their family and so i started to look at some of the data and the two data points that just have kind of shocked me are uh tyson foods which won you know 30 billion dollar food supplier uh in q1 they reported the average increase of their products uh from a price standpoint seven and a half percent wow 30 billion dollar food supplier saying the average increase of our goods that we sell we have increased prices on an average by seven percent wow and so that's not every food right that's not

but like that's one really big food supplier big food supply i mean even commodities you see commodities going up i see people making jokes about selling wood behind in the alley because this is up what 400 they can't find it um and i think those indicators for inflation as well like you just said yep with the food the second one around the food is there was a study that good morning america so the reason why good morning america is interesting to me is one that's a mainstream audience two that's not a finance economics right uh wall street type audience uh and then three is they looked at year over year change and so what they said was uh from grocery stores food prices are up two and a half percent from april 2020 to april 2021 now whether

it's right or wrong that two and a half percent is way higher than a quote-unquote official cpi inflation number exactly and so it's again even if it's not two and a half it's two percent or it's three percent it's still still higher than the official numbers right and so you start to look at okay that sounds like you're pushing people to go learn about how do i protect my dollars because literally if i was sitting in dollars everything's getting more expensive around me but i'm sitting in this other asset bitcoin everything's getting cheaper around me oh yeah yeah right i mean it's just simple math i mean over time compound annual growth as we know over 200 we know over time the longer you hold bitcoin more purchasing power and again it's

funny starting out i used to always say it was always either rich people that got bitcoin or that didn't care or it was poor people like myself who had nothing to lose and i think we're convening now at this point where it's like well we both need to use it because all of our dollars are are at stake right now because of inflation so you're right i think those numbers are they're probably lying i mean i just i think most people are lying uh just to keep you have to keep the sheep calm man you got to make sure nobody goes crazy at a certain point that's going to break and i think that sounded crazy until last year happened yeah right like if you came here and You were like, oh, they're all lying.

Everyone would be like, all right, conspiracy theorists, like, go sit in the corner, be quiet. Now, the conspiracy theorists are more right than the mainstream media. I mean, it's amazing. Conspiracy theorists literally are just a few years too early. That's it. That's all conspiracy theorists are now because it seems like everything's coming out as the truth. And, I mean, I don't believe everything, but a lot of it is just research and data. And we see that.

Like, there's no way we're okay right now. We have 0% interest rates on houses. What happened the last time we had that? I mean, come on, man. you can't you can't hide it it's good our money supply you know they say graphs charts don't go on a straight line apparently it does our money supply literally went to a rocket ship i mean there was no it's about to the moon they didn't want money supplies to the moon i mean jesus christ i mean all that money being printed and and all of the the data we have like you just presented

uh i mean you'd be a fool to not think something's not going on yeah how important is it uh especially for the black community when you see like nas and jay-z they put out a new song and i was talking about uh coinbase talking about being the cryptocurrency scar face like he's got a couple of different lines that are in there that reference investing cryptocurrency all this stuff my man uh jay-z right a couple of times talking about being a billionaire and then his wife being a billionaire and also like how much impact does that have it has to be something that people look up to is aspirational and they're like oh well it's good enough for them then i should be learning about this stuff as well oh yeah absolutely and uh you know jay-z also started a fund with jack

dorsey 500 bitcoin i believe fund in ghana um so he's definitely putting his money where his mouth is now his early investment coinbase amazing stuff and i think that helps with people who are not uh regular investors because they use they use uh basically the media and and musicians to get messages out but once they're in there they can learn from people like us because they'll look for the experts and things of that nature so i thank them for their help i have a joke before it is kind of funny that we look at musicians for financial advice uh you know especially in the black community and i kind of joked about that saying hey i don't really see the white community uh looking at eminem for financial advice but uh at the end of the day all roads lead to bitcoin

and all roads lead to financial prosperity how many black billionaires are outside of media and sports well yeah let's say entertainment and sports yeah um oprah's the most famous okay but Is she the richest? I believe she's the richest. Okay. But that's still media technically. Media slash business. Yeah.

Right? Like she owned the network. She owned a bunch of stuff. And she was an actor. Like she had other stuff. And I would say Robert Smith. Yep. He's, yeah, over $4 billion.

It's not many. But it doesn't have to be billionaires. Multi-millionaires, millionaires who own businesses, they don't get on TV much. You don't see them. They don't have the flashy stuff. And I think that's pushed more than the average businessman or high CEO that has a business gone but hopefully that can change the reason why i say that is because actually if you think about most of the billionaires that if you said to me right now name you know name five black billionaires

right the ones that come immediately to mind are kanye west jay-z right uh beyonce lebron's probably there it's not already there right i mean you start to go down this list and you're like wait a second these are people who not only have built a billion plus dollar fortune right you can say whatever you want about them i don't care you can say kanye west is crazy and i'll tell you yeah but he's got six and a half billion dollars and you don't crazy billionaire he figured it out by the way have you seen richard branson because that's basically a white kanye west right he's doing crazy shit too exactly he just can't make a beat so most people don't know of as much but but that is uh to some degree it's like the people who don't do what the normal

person does they get the non-normal result right and and by the way that can work in positive or negative ways right but you just get the outlier result if you take the outlier action yeah but what's fascinating to me is kanye jay-z like these people with the big platforms who are coming from music or entertainment yep they're starting to talk about it yeah and they're not starting to talk about it from like uh you know if you go back you listen to some of jay-z's early music right it was more about you know flipping a brick of drugs on the street right because that's what he new yeah now all of a sudden he's talking about buying buildings and art and being a billionaire and all reinvesting it completely changes the conversation i think and so it's just fascinating

to to see this happen and then you layer in now all of a sudden they're getting into cryptocurrency right it's becoming cool tom brady like all these different people start to capitulate and join floyd mayweather do you think he's got bitcoin i think he does um if not him his financial manager has to have a little bit do you think he knows anything about bitcoin not particularly i don't think he's read the white paper but i think he knows how it works the number go up that's how most people view it and then later they'll say oh yeah this is you know yeah the best money has more bitcoin 50 cent or floyd may definitely 50 cent uh he sold the album for bitcoin i think yeah but he said he sold bitcoin yeah but i mean he probably but but he saw the magic of it was

like well let me get a little bit more i mean probably 50 cent um but yeah yeah i think they have a substantial amount that that is still one of the greatest all-time beefs on the internet is when 50 Cent challenged Floyd Mayweather to read a book and then Jimmy Kimmel said, you can come do it on my show. Oh, man. That was hilarious. I mean, 50 Cent is the king of beefs. I mean, he's hilarious and he'll challenge you to a fight.

I mean, can't really beat 50 Cent. I think he actually got to fight with Floyd Mayweather. Like a scuffle, I don't know. But, I mean, that's like friend stuff. So, yeah, I mean, it is what it is, 50 Cent. I follow him on Instagram and every once in a while he'll post a random photo of somebody and it's obviously not a very flattering photo, right? and i don't have the context behind what the beef is and then all of a sudden he uh i forget what

the hashtags he uses on but he's something like he doesn't forget like just you know you just realize like hey dude i'm not messing with this guy right right sleep 50 sit alone man you'll be all right what's this story with sheets i saw you oh yeah she started accepting bitcoin and then you were like yo i told like what's like a regional manager about it or something yeah years ago so Well, no, it was interesting because during COVID, I left L.A., went to be with my fiance in Virginia, where she was at. And I had a few people with brick and mortar stores that were setting up Bitcoin ATMs. So I'm setting up Bitcoin ATMs all through COVID.

You know, most people are sitting inside. I was outside. I was like, I'm sorry. I was like 50 cent, get rich or die trying. I was like, I'm sorry. I got to make this money. I got a daughter on the way. So I was out here and I was at a Sheetz and I'd asked the people who worked there a few

times about a Bitcoin ATM, but they didn't know what I was talking about. one day regional manager just happened to be there i guess you know doing paperwork whatever and i mentioned it to him and i said matter of fact you all should accept bitcoin and he kind of was thinking he was like but i don't know what that is he was just like i i get it like i'm trying to explain it to him uh i don't even know why he listened to me but i was like yeah you all can earn money for just having an atm and people can accept it now did that turn into them accepting it i don't know but the biggest thing is me telling him i'm pretty sure that's one of the first times he heard it and maybe that company did research but who knows that was a you know

But if 10 other people do the same thing, right, it increases the probability. I probably sold two other sheets, but that was the only one I saw the regional manager. But, I mean, again, I've gotten gas stations in L.A. to get Bitcoin ATMs and to accept Bitcoin. So it wasn't too far-fetched. How does that work when you go and you install an ATM? They get just paid like a percentage or a flat fee? Yeah, so different companies, but one I know for sure, CoinFlip, they'll pay the brick and mortar to house it there. They'll pay you rent, and you don't have to deal with the upkeep.

So if you have a brick and mortar store, you can do that right now. if you refer a brick and mortar store they'll pay you as a referral um but just helping people do that the reason i was doing it was more for the community i realize in the black community a lot of people have cash they have money in the mattress they can't always get straight on the exchange i think cash app has solved a little bit of that problem new exchanges made it a little easier but atms facilitate the ability for them to get it quicker and uh i think when stores do it or have it as well in a local place that helps them on board the bitcoin so that's really why i was doing it you know did what i had to do but she's doing it that's great um the everybody's

gonna capitulate at some point so it's better to just do it earlier they have the infrastructure coin star same thing sent them email 2014 15 why can i not put this change because i was so poor i used to poor change and that would be gas money like 30 dollars worth why can't i turn that into bitcoin and then four years later you can do it and i was like i don't know if it came for me but i'm pretty sure i was the first person to mention but it happens i mean again again they hear from 1, 2, 5, 10, 20 people. It starts somewhere. We should pay attention.

Exactly, yeah. But everybody capitulates, so it's all good. Bitcoin wins at the end. True. Another thing that is winning is Bitcoin Black Billionaires. Oh, yeah. What is this? One.

Two. How the hell do you have 100,000 people in your clubhouse? Hey, man. Shout out to Lamar Wilson, co-founder. He came to me with the idea. It's Bitcoin Black Billionaires or Black Bitcoin Billionaires? Black Bitcoin Billionaires. On Clubhouse.

and um what happened was a lot of b's there's only one other triple b i know like i said and that was a clothing brand that went up and maybe not doing so hot i know well we had a new triple b alliteration works that's all i gotta say but black bitcoin billionaires absolutely on clubhouse new app in december kind of started you know getting popular lamar called me he said you know we've worked together before he said why don't we start a group teach black people about bitcoin you know the price is going up it's a you know we got to have a sense of urgency we started it And I think we've had, let's see, 10 different channels, basically. So we have the Genesis Block on Monday.

We have Bitcoin Office Hours. We have Granny Crypto, who teaches to older people. We have, I mean, it's so many. What was the last one? Granny Crypto. Oh, Granny Crypto. Yep. And she teaches as well.

I mean, we have moderators that teach different classes. Club Quavo on Saturdays to keep it fun and light. More like edutainment. And I think getting people in. Quavo shows up? No, it's one of our friends, Club Quavo. He's in Miami. But yeah, he has somebody to go out with on Friday night.

Yeah, he has the Lambo. He's a cool guy. And again, part of the Black Bitcoin Billionaires is all aspects, education, entertainment, you know, lifestyle, how things go. And the best part was we teamed up with Cash App. We were able to give away a million Satoshis to thousands of people. And we were able to give it away for free, teach people about it. And we also have who wants to be a Satoshi millionaire on Thursdays so people can come

and earn Satoshis. Thank you, Cash App, for that. also some of our other sponsors but it's great because we're giving people exactly what they want without them necessarily having to buy it education and the start get some skin in the game so black bitcoin billionaires is you know pretty much blown up and out here in miami we have a lot of events that we're doing now because of that what are you guys going to do for the conference oh yeah so for the conference uh we have the bitcoin classic the first bitcoin tournament that rewards the winners of bitcoin uh it's a basketball tournament basketball are you good

basketball very um oh but not anymore hold on but not anymore like i used to because again all right so either you're good or you're not good oh right now i'm still one of the best shooters out all right but everything else man i'm 32 give me a break but uh but as far as shooting i mean i always tell people this story and i hate saying it because nobody believes me but yes when me and steph curry played at his dad's summer camp with dale curry i beat him and his dad in a three-point contest i don't really i don't know how many people beat him in real life but i know for sure i got the shirt to sign it and i signed everything i got the picture and everything to prove it but yes so so you're saying you're better than steph curry i was at one point no no what about now no

absolutely it's the best point guard of all time nobody of all time yeah i think so all right not anymore i stopped playing once i you know hurt my knee all right so uh the other thing is if you are running the basketball tournament you're also going to do this uh with a mansion party yeah so we got the mansion party um june 5th it'll be three to eight uh we also read eight from three in the afternoon till 8 p.m oh yeah we're partying for a little bit brother what are you guys gonna do for five hours in the middle of the afternoon networking you know we got a pool there and then uh it's a lot of mansion party and networking are on two ends of the spectrum we're gonna try to fuse it together just like education entertainment we're gonna put them together

and uh try and get a lot of people in one spot because a lot of people want to meet the moderators will meet each other so and I can only imagine the traffic um because again Mayweather's here so um we definitely want to have that and then we'll have a community event Sunday uh it'll be in Little Haiti we'll actually be giving away free books we'll be in the park and we'll also be having a um a cookout I'm sorry June 5th with um Nigel Roberts and Hill Harper they have one we'll kind of go over there some of us uh for the Black Wall Street app which is out today so we'll I mean we have a lot of events actually i think this is the most black people at any bitcoin event ever really i believe so as far as tickets from spectators and people that are coming to the

events i believe so which is a big thing for me because i used to be the only black person at events and i was like we need this more than anybody why are we not around yeah and it's not about you know not against other people it's really about every group is going to have to join in order for it to be mainstream so you might as well bring them to the conferences let them see how it works and i think this is a good example is there a safety in numbers like in terms of the more people you see if if you go to a conference 5 000 people right i don't care if they're black white green purple whatever but then you go to another conference 12 000 people all of a sudden you feel like oh there's 12 000 other people here like i must be on to something

right exactly if there's a conference with 20 people you're like oh okay my am i a nerd right yeah i've been to those too i mean i've been i've been to enough conferences now where it's like this is amazing 12 000 people there's nothing to sniff at that's you know nfl game i mean that's that's you know a small college game like that's pretty good as far as the amount of people but also the impact we can have if we actually try i know some people here are coming to flash with each other and eat dinner and laugh but me being in the streets working with people the real people who need it i've been doing that my whole basically career of learning about bitcoin so it feels familiar and being able to do that it's gonna be great yeah that's awesome um talk about

the wall street it's black wall street digital wallet well the black wall street app and it is a digital wallet but yeah and it drops today may 31st um and it's in a celebration of the black wall street in tulsa oklahoma dating back to 1921 100 year anniversary so 100 years since then we explained just real high level what is black wall street what was the event in tulsa for those that don't know absolutely so there were many black wall streets around the country as they were referred to um basically it was a mostly black community where they had libraries they had CEOs. They had airplanes. They had a built-up community that was prosperous because they circulated their dollars and they were free to work. However, because of some of the policemen

and white men that were around that were jealous, burned it to the ground, killing hundreds of people. I believe there's only a couple of survivors left. Now, that was something they actually built it up later, but it was never really the same. And in other places, the same thing happened. Florida, Georgia, all over the place. And Wilmington, North Carolina, all of these places had economic growth in black communities that were burned to the ground by people who were either jealous or didn't want to economically let them get forward so in celebration of that uh 100 years later what we're doing is building a digital black wall street because as i've said before you can't burn down bitcoin and the best part about this this whole movement is

that because it is global we have the backing of people from everywhere not just a small brick and mortar community that can be tainted so i'm glad hill harper and naja roberts have introduced that helping consult with that with lamar and other people they have a great tech team and i think it's going to take off because again they have they have the ability to dollar cost averaging the bitcoin as well as have a digital wallet which i think bodes well for the future why does the tulsa oklahoma one get so much attention compared to the other ones i didn't know that there was other situations where this had occurred so why does that one get i think it was a lot of the attention i think it was considered the most prosperous okay of all of the biggest it's kind

of the biggest one yep absolutely and because they did have so much commerce matter of fact It was so heinous when it happened that they showed it as an opening scene on Watchmen and people thought it was fake. They were like, why would you show all of this murder and all of a sudden they were like, this really happened. That's how crazy it was. So we can only really, you know, celebrate our ancestors by doing something economically because since that time, nothing has really worked. Right. So I think economically taking that step. I'm sorry it took 100 years, but shout out to the ancestors that built that time.

We're doing that now in 2021. you were the person who turned me on to the whole idea of uh when a system is stacked against its people yeah right uh just as a population in general nothing to do uh um with the color someone's skin the only way to fight back is through technology uh which i think most people okay they understand that but specifically the black community's relationship with money banks the financial system the censorship resistance becomes incredibly important the decentralization of all of this becomes the most important thing right which is ultimately what bitcoin is going after um but once you start to educate people it almost becomes the default right in that why would

i go and use a system that i know is stacked against me when i have a system that when i want a loan it just says i don't care who you are i don't even need to know your name just you got the assets or not exactly completely different way of thinking about it right compared to the legacy system where it's come in where do you work how much money is in your bank account you know what address a certain way yeah send me your electrical bill and you know all this like and i mean even then you still might get denied for a loan or if you get it pay higher rates because there are banks that have paid those fees in lawsuits uh because they've given higher rates to black and brown people for the same qualifications just based off of what i don't

know zip code or how they look or who knows um but you're right uh we we owe them no allegiance And in hindsight, I think in the next few years, in hindsight, it's going to make perfect sense that we move to Bitcoin. Like, I feel bad for people who just kind of push it away completely. Your grandkids are probably going to not respect you. What did you do during the biggest transfer of wealth of all time? Oh, well, I was on Twitter telling everybody not to buy it or that was bad for the environment. Those people that said that 99 about Amazon look stupid on Forbes. I'm sorry. You look dumb now because who's talking about Amazon's environmental impact right now?

Nobody. Same thing with Bitcoin. It's taking its lumps. It's taken its criticism, but in hindsight, I think the black community will realize this is going to happen. I mean, technology eats everything, and you're right. It does solve a lot of the racist stuff we saw, like black people not getting a taxi in New York. Uber solved that. Now taxi drivers are begging black people, please get in my taxi because they don't have any business. So it happens. It happens.

So true. That's what tech does, and I think Bitcoin does that now. Explain it more. So there was a problem with taxi drivers. I've seen the signs in the taxis in New York City that basically says it's a crime not to pick up somebody based on the color of their skin or gender or whatever, right? So it was obviously a problem, probably enough where they would go and they would actually put the signs in. Uber basically said, look, you press a button, they don't even know who you are until they show up. Exactly.

And so that completely removes all the issues. And that's technology specifically addressing that issue. not intentionally not that's not why uber was created right but it's a second order effect of it and so bitcoin essentially having a very similar second order effect here right bitcoin was created for just a human yeah but this ends up being a second order benefit absolutely and decentralization is on a scale right so uber is not completely decentralized but it's more decentralized than taxis are and then you may get something more decentralized than that in the future whereas no central authority it's literally anybody can use it you know and check through

smart contract you know however it moves but yeah that's what they did and i think uh again bitcoin would do the same thing just as we as we've seen with other technology you've mentioned floyd mayweather multiple times he's gonna headline i put that in air quotes i don't really know what that means uh of the bitcoin conference good bad or indifferent that uh floyd mayweather is the headline i think it's good for publicity but i'm kind of indifferent i mean again me and you we've been to plenty of conferences who cares right i mean you're gonna talk when you talk if you need to put him at the front then that's fine as well he gets up there he says what he has to say uh he has a fight this weekend so maybe just promotion is it a fight there no this is uh this is a good

good good payoff and uh some good entertainment i mean i think the best the best fight was when he took his hat and he ran off or whatever he took that was only real yeah that was the real fight so i mean i think this one may go two rounds if that like jake ball logan paul two of the greatest marketers of our generation very yeah i think they're moving up there with the chris jenner uh as far as marketing and media because how they got this far to fight and fill me with i don't know but it's logan going from a youtuber to that is i mean yeah i'll give you even better logan paul and look from everything i understand incredibly intelligent right incredibly hard working you have to be yeah very successful when he puts his mind to doing something him and his

team uh and also very creative from if you look at the various lines of business and also like So, again, very similar to what I think people would say about, like, a Chris Jenner and all that kind of stuff. But he's had two fights. Right? And I think he lost one and he had a tie. Yeah. So, again, zero disrespect at all, right? Because guess what?

Him and I got into a ring. He's, like, six inches taller than me, I think, right? I still might whoop his ass. Get the right punch, you never know. He gets in a ring with Floyd Mayweather. like that is a skill to get floyd mayweather to agree to this fight marketing genius i mean if the money is right that's one thing about money in business if the money's right and none of that other stuff matters it's like well we can both do we know how much they're all getting paid i don't

know the purse but didn't how much did you make last time like 50 million i don't know i don't know jake paul didn't make jake paul at 25 i don't know but no no my guess is that he made five to ten which by which by the way for five to ten million dollars a lot of money for a fight how many people fight for free i mean come on i think ben askren got a million dollars yeah and and ben ben showed up like he just finished drinking beers at the bar no i think ben trained very hard i love ben adele i love you ben but i was like he showed up for the money he just want to get it he's like i can fight but i don't really care about this dude i mean it's whatever out of the whole group ben askren is the smartest one yeah i think he he was in the ring for 15 seconds

i got partying to do man give me my million dollars i'm out of here i would have did it too let me know when i get that contract jake paul i'll jump in there for 15 seconds so how much would it how much would it take you to fight jake paul in the ring oh man uh i'd take i'd take 10 million 10 million yeah you wouldn't do it for a million no that's not enough all right at least 10 5 to 10 i was 5 to 10 all right i'm like don king i already negotiated a lot longer to get it going well ben i mean ben didn't train yeah but at least he fought before you know i mean like i just do you know i actually think ben trained more than we think he did but everyone expected him not to train at all and therefore you know training for two hours a day was it was

a step hey ben's got crypto or whatever he's he got the podcast he's chilling man he's not really worried askren acres that's what he that's what he calls it askren acres oh man love you man hope to see you soon man but yeah that was that was funny because again marketing genius he got in there people watched it made money from it why not yeah it is so good uh do we think that logan paul has any chance no i think no i think floyd may stretch it out just for fun but no i mean i think that logan he's 50 and 0 for a reason i think that logan paul has one opportunity if he gets off a first round just run out just literally like just like a fight essentially right you're bigger you're stronger and just all out gas yourself maybe you get lucky if it happens

you're a legend kidney punches yeah you're a legend if it doesn't happen you were gonna lose anyways and just okay everyone's gonna say damn you got in the ring with a 15 year old you know world champion he has no expectations so i think that's his best his best asset right now no expectations no pressure why not what happens if he knocks out flea miller oh man that would just confirm that we're in the matrix i mean there's been some weird shit happening this last couple years i don't know that's all i keep saying to myself hey i wouldn't be surprised age of aquarius people and people are talking about in the times and it's some weird shit that's been happening last week i mean if logan ball knocks out floyd mayweather is it the greatest

knockout of all time greatest it has to be i mean i mean like you it's a non-professional and the maybe greatest of all time yes you legitimately have to start asking yourself like okay cool i kid ali and frazier like all these different fights like no logan paul versus floyd mayweather if logan paul knocks him out might be top 10 knockouts no it's easy number one but it's not gonna happen floyd's gonna win easily you might stretch it out have some fun and dance around a little bit yeah he's gone you can't hit him i mean did you think that conor mcgregor had a chance when they boxed i didn't get a chance either all right so i actually thought conor mcgregor had more of a chance than most people

thought he had and i was pleasantly surprised by the the uh when he showed up how well he performed he lost yeah right it was very clear i liked how he fought him he did try and actually box him after like six rounds with the mcgregor fight it was pretty obvious that hey look he's not gonna win this because he got tired out all the stuff and mayweather is the you know one of if not the greatest of all time yeah uh that's what i'm saying he's just gotta try to knock him out the first round just literally come out and just forget a three minute round i'm gonna come out i got 30 seconds that's it yeah come out swinging as hard as you can because i mean again And I think Floyd, he just suffers from LeBron James syndrome.

We get tired of seeing greatness over and over. So you try and make up a reason in your head why you'll lose. And you think about it like, no, he's not going to lose. But the best chance is that. Run at him hard as you can. Maybe grab him a little bit. Try and get some punches in there. But that's about it.

After that, you're not landing many punches on Floyd. Good luck, man. I mean, have fun. But it's not happening. I'm sorry. I think he just needs the money. Yeah. I mean, how much do you think Floyd's getting?

Oh, Floyd ain't stepping in the ring for less than 50. That's what I said. I said at least 50 million, and that's not a bad thing. If I can get in the fight with the ring and fight a nonprofessional for 50 million free dollars, hang out in Miami for the weekend, why not? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, my guess is that 50 is the starting number. Then he gets a piece of all this stuff.

He stays relevant, like all this kind of stuff. McGregor, would he get 100 million? Something like that, yeah. Right? mm-hmm so it's just like you started put the numbers together you're like yeah man if you get paid a hundred million dollars to fight you know Conor McGregor hey you're not stepping in at 50% less to go fight a youtuber on the off chance that he gets lucky and with a shot knocks you out your whole career is

defined by you got knocked out by you better get some big money off of that because I hope he hope he gets money off the replays or you know whoever plays it after that because if that happens man the residuals from that everybody just rewatch well that's part of it if I'm Floyd Mayweather I'm negotiating the contract i'm like look i want my 50 million 100 million whatever the number is and by the way if there's a knockout i want to get paid right everything from the yeah you pay me a bonus for getting knocked yeah i want to nft it and only only sell five copies but i mean again it's it's fun to talk about but i am glad he is at a bitcoin conference because

he was messing with some shit coin before that i don't know who introduced him but there's a lot them in 2017 you know ti jamie fox dj khaled i'm glad we got all that out the way hopefully they can come talk to somebody like myself or others like bitcoin billionaires who can lead them to the light because if they go that way then their message will resonate more like with jay-z and us russ okong right exactly perfect a bunch of these guys who are in that same circle of athlete entertainer musician right they get it oh yeah and lala anthony out there and entertainment spencer and then what you know people that I've talked to that are you know quote-unquote famous are getting it now because they saw the ICO bubble they see sort of the scams going away no I know

what's the real information and I think we have a perfect time of doing that right now Tom Brady drastically underrated how important it was that he capitulated and jumped like a couple of these professional athletes that I've talked to have said Oh Thompson Brady Brady I mean he'd go now every time i bring up tom brady i have to say that he's oh and two in the super bowl against eli manning and the new york giants of course but other than that wouldn't expect anything less obviously i mean it's funny those are the two that i literally was sure they were gonna win now both lost and then i got lucky some of those but he still wasn't they uh was it oh eight no whichever was the one where tyree caught it on his helmet yeah it was 2012 or

whatever when david tyree and they broke and they broke the undefeated undefeated season and that's when i was like sure they were winning nope and then the second time i was like they're gonna get revenge you gotta get nope i was like man that was i was wrong on both of those i lost a little money on that time never bet against the new york giants and by the way the new york giants they don't win the super bowl if they're good oh and they don't win the super bowl if they're bad but if they go eight and eight in the regular season watch out they just i used to always say i feel like they're saving themselves because they're actually better than this because they get to the playoffs and they were running through people to get to them but it's all good man in

Saquon we trust all right where can we send people to get the book summer camp and then anything you do with the conference oh yeah so the book Bitcoin in black America calm the summer camp it'll be posted on give track calm you can follow the progress there and then at the conference I'll be speaking in June 4th at 1 10 speaking of what is a big corner which should be interesting and then after that I'll be around that black Bitcoin billionaires mansion you can find it on black Bitcoin billionaire calm black billionaire black Bitcoin billionaire black Bitcoin billionaire doctor all right uh before I let you go

the book you're on the second version second version is on pre-order and it'll be released this month absolutely okay see the first one people go by you can second version is it just updated or it's a whole new set of content seven new chapters and it also includes audio book it has the digital copy and three webinars attached it's more of an educational experience because people need to learn you know sense of urgency so if something about the first one they should definitely still go by the second absolutely awesome man take it a step up man you gotta start and then where can people find you on twitter at bitcoins a and uh instagram the isaiah jackson

yeah you gotta put the tiktok out there now that you're a tiktoker hey man i got two tiktoks out baby it took me a total of hour and a half but i'm getting it i'm getting close but uh hopefully because i've seen some crypto tiktoks that were just horrendous i'm like jesus christ these people suck you see the guy who did the scam token no no i haven't i mean i'm not that deep i got four followers man there's a guy who uh he said something like uh watch this and he and he created scam token and it was like secure computerized automatic he just did some word salad whatever yeah but it's called scam s-c-a-m and then he put it together and he was like read it out and he was like scam and then he like released it yeah and uh it had like i don't know

70 000 market cap within seconds he was like y'all idiots out here buying everything yeah i don't know what i just did i just released a scam yeah you just copy and paste somebody's uh github those of them up there i'm buying that smart chain i've seen some terrible coins you can probably get a hundred thousand dollar market cap in two days because it's like bots that just buy the new stuff just in case this is crazy but that's that's that's what we're in now it's it's it's it's the wild west still in certain aspects just like 2017 but that's what bitcoin is for that's why i love it all right man listen we're gonna do this again thank you so much for coming oh yeah oh yeah absolutely anytime man