The Pomp Podcast - #736 The First Bitcoin Baseball Team w/ Steven Nelkovski & Patrick O'Sullivan

Starting point is 00:00:00 What's up, everyone? This is Anthony Pompliano. Most of you know me as Pomp. You're listening to the Pomp Podcast, simply the best podcast out there. Now let's kick this thing off. Steven Novkoski and Patrick O'Sullivan, one is the CEO and the other is the chief Bitcoin officer of the Perth Heat. It's an Australian professional baseball team. They have fully converted their entire organization over to a Bitcoin standard, holding Bitcoin on their balance sheet. They're going to be paying players in Bitcoin, accepting Bitcoin from fans and attendees to their stadium. And they are also putting Bitcoin on their jerseys. Fascinating conversation with two men who are trying to lead professional sports down the rabbit hole of

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Starting point is 00:04:07 slash pomp. okcoin.com slash pomp. Go check it out. Anthony Pompliano runs Pomp Investments. All views of him and the guests on his podcast are solely their opinions and do not reflect the opinions of Pomp Investments. You should not treat any opinion expressed by Pomp or his guests as a specific inducement to make a particular investment or follow a particular strategy, but only as an expression of his personal opinion this podcast is for informational purposes only first let's start with uh australia baseball how big is the league how many teams are there just walk us through the uh the kind of league structure and the teams yeah cool well there's eight teams in the league and it's an international competition so we've got a side also from new zealand and

Starting point is 00:04:52 also from korea uh perth eight are the largest organization uh in the australian baseball league We've won 15 Claxton Shields, and we've had 11 players from the Perth Heat who have gone on to play Major League Baseball. There's one currently going around by the name of Liam Hendricks, who's with the Chicago White Sox, and he's just won Reliever of the Year for the last two seasons, which is the first time that's happened in Major League Baseball history. We also had Graeme Lloyd, who won two championships or two World Series

Starting point is 00:05:19 with the New York Yankees in 96 and also 1998. So baseball is big here in Australia. We're ranked number six in the world with Team Australia. And yeah, the Perth Heat are pretty proud to be the first team in world sport now who are operating on a Bitcoin standard. All right. So you guys are basically the New York Yankees of Australia baseball. Is that a fair way to think about it? Essentially. It depends who you want to upset, but yeah, we'll take that.

Starting point is 00:05:43 Yeah. Well, I said it. You didn't say it. So if they get mad, they got to get mad at me. You're the only team I talk to and the Yankees are the best. So you must be the best. Perfect. all right so patrick the uh the the thing that i got told you're the chief bitcoin officer and when i said to my brothers they said hey we need one of those what the hell is a chief bitcoin officer exactly and you probably do need one of those only organization that doesn't need one right you guys you guys you guys have already got it you guys have an orange pill uh really the chief bitcoin officer is someone you know we've seen so beautifully what michael saylor did with micro strategy what he was able to do with the company and what he was able to do with the

Starting point is 00:06:18 resources with that company. When he decided to go into the space, he had all these options of lawyers and accountants and the whole thing that comes along with a company of that size. The reality is there's a large number of small companies that have identified the space as something that they'd like to be involved in. They recognize maybe some of the people involved in the leadership team recognize some of the benefits that might come from operating in the Bitcoin world, but they just don't know how to navigate it. It's an ever-changing landscape, both from the infrastructure side of things to just keeping up with what Bitcoin is and the way that it's being explained and the way that people are learning about it. And basically, the job that

Starting point is 00:06:50 we have sort of invented here with the CBO is I take care of the educational side of things. Like when we decided to make the move, you know, Steve and I had early discussions in sort of 2019, early 2020, about this being a possibility. And from there, it was about educating the board, educating the leadership team at the Perth Heat, and then making sure that when we actually decided, yeah, this was a reality, we could actually make this work with what had been done inside the Bitcoin community and the infrastructure that had been built up behind it. We could actually do it. Then it was about coming on and consulting with the partners in the space to make sure that we were putting ourselves in the best possible position to leverage the most out of not only

Starting point is 00:07:26 Bitcoin and the number go up technology, but also the network side of things and how that was going to make the organization more efficient. So really it's about education. And it's also about, can you orange bill somebody? If you can orange bill somebody and you're halfway decent at it, you're probably in line to be a CBO. Okay. So I want to talk about specifically what you guys have done i talk all the time about michael saylor's taking his balance sheets plugging it into the bitcoin network the country of el salvador is taking their entire country they're plugging it into the bitcoin network in a multitude of ways what i apparently is happening here is you guys are taking a professional baseball team and you're plugging it into the bitcoin network which when

Starting point is 00:08:01 people first hear that they're like that sounds insane like who are these guys are they just like religious zealots right and they've got no clue what they're doing and they're like speculating or do they actually have a plan behind it? So Stephen, maybe talk a little bit about from a tactical standpoint, what exactly are you guys doing along the lines of plugging the baseball team into the Bitcoin network? Yeah, we think the sports revolution has begun. And unlike other sports deals that we've seen in the crypto space, this is not a piecemeal announcement. Perth Heat are all in, and this is from the top down. So we'll now hodl Bitcoin on our balance sheet. We have Bitcoin payments for merchandise, tickets and memberships.

Starting point is 00:08:40 Our payments to players and staff are now in Bitcoin. From this weekend, inside the ballpark, you'll be able to come in and buy a hot dog with Bitcoin. We could have easily gone for the cash and grab, sell fan tokens, EFTs and made a stack of cash pretty quickly, but we'll just become another shitcoin. This is where we are different. We are the Bitcoin baseball team and we're not should coin sports soon. That was great. All right. And so when you think about this, what has been the hardest part for you guys? Is it convincing leadership to do it? Is it actually technically implementing the solutions needed to be able to process and kind of support this idea? Or is it something to do with the players and getting their heads wrapped around it?

Starting point is 00:09:29 Probably some of the issues we faced and the trepidation we had was why is nobody else doing this? Why are we going to become the first team? And once we were able to overcome those hurdles, I guess the next question Patrick and I faced was how are we now going to fund the team? Because by taking this position of the Bitcoin baseball team, how is mainstream media going to frame us? And was this going to upset members, fans, and even some of our commercial partners? So when we thought about what Jack did with Strike and the Indy 500, that was quite phenomenal. But Patrick and I had to ask ourselves a question continually, is the Bitcoin community ready to support or fund a baseball team?

Starting point is 00:10:10 Now, Patrick and I feel by partnering with like-minded companies moving forward, that is the best approach. The greatest part that we've got with Apertheid is that we are actually controlling the levers and the network will guide us. So in terms of an organization, we're pretty small. We're less than 100 employees. Our operating costs would be like 50 Bitcoin. So now we would like to partner with the like-minded companies, for example, Bitcoin exchanges, Bitcoin miners, hardware, software companies who support the same values as we have and who would like to pay partnerships in Bitcoin only. Why? Because that's how the community and the network wins. you know say we huddle 50 bitcoin this season next season we only need 30 bitcoin and then the year after in 2024 we only need 10 bitcoin again why because the perpetuity of those sponsorships will support perth heat forever and again perth eight will win but more importantly

Starting point is 00:11:11 the bitcoin community will win and this will be the future of sport yeah patrick when you think about what you guys are doing uh what's so fascinating to me is micro strategy kind of broached the topic of public companies putting bitcoin in the balance sheet we saw a couple of companies not a ton but a couple more tesla square a bunch of kind of bitcoin miners etc put bitcoin in the balance sheet hold it there and be proud of it talk about it as a strategy el salvador obviously uh being kind of the first country really put a flag in the ground say we're going to plug our country in we anticipate there will be others that follow uh here shortly throughout Central and South America. Is this idea that you guys are the first to do this and there'll be more

Starting point is 00:11:48 teams that will follow? Have you gotten other phone calls from people saying, hey, look, we want to do this. How'd you do it? What's been the reaction? Absolutely. That has probably been the biggest thing that Steve and I were not anticipating getting into this is, yeah, it's a big deal for the Perth Heat, but for the Bitcoin network, again, we're just plugging in. We're not coding any of this stuff. As you say, Steve, once he made the decision to say, okay, this is what we're going to do. We're going to go down this line of action. He hired everyone that works for the Bitcoin network to improve the Perth heat, right? They're out there making these things happen yourself, Michael Saylor, all of these individuals that are doing it. And in that process of figuring

Starting point is 00:12:19 out, okay, well, how is this actually going to work from an operational standpoint? You get into contact with different partners in the space and you start to hear whispers. And we have, since the announcement, we have been inundated basically with the playbook. Like, okay, Michael Saylor had the playbook on, this is how you do it at the corporate level. But like I say, at the small business level, at the organization's under a hundred employees, like what does this actually look like. And we've just been completely surprised about how many people are interested in doing this. How many people where this is sort of, even in the people that we've spoken to in person, like the sponsors that were already with the team, it's almost like you see the relief on

Starting point is 00:12:51 their face when you say, this is what we're doing. This is why we're doing it. This is why it's going to make us more efficient and better today. You know, not sometime in the future. This works right now. And you see that relief on their face and you see that interest in that intrigue of like, I didn't even know this was possible, let alone going all in on this thing. You know, People hear certain things and the media frames Bitcoin still in a certain light. But it has been amazing to see just the tsunami of activity behind the scenes of people reaching out and going, OK, who did you partner with? How did you do it? Because, like, you know, the infrastructure is changing all the time where we could have gone our own. And we talked about this during, you know, the lead up to the announcement is like, what was what were we going to do from an operational standpoint?

Starting point is 00:13:28 Were we going to try and be a completely self-sovereign company where we did all of the back end, all of that kind of stuff? or where we're going to try and partner up with someone like an open note or someone like that to be able to immediately jump on this, right? And get the benefits of being first and trying to lead the way. And ultimately we decided to, that would probably be the best course of action is to jump in, you know, start by walking and then run as soon as we can. And you can do that from the front. We've seen lots and lots of just education on our own part since we started to see how far this has come and to see what works and what doesn't work and see the little trips. And already we are leaps and bounds ahead of anyone who's trying to come behind us uh but we but we

Starting point is 00:14:05 have been encouraged by the amount of responses of people that are interested in doing it that have thought about doing it um and you know people look to sports just like you know we've seen announcement from players like aaron rogers saquon barkley russell those guys uh people look to sports for inspiration they're used to looking up to athletes they're used to looking to see what they're doing and taking inspiration from them um and uh you know hopefully we've been able to provide that at the perth heat and i know from a fact you're just looking at my sort of twitter dms that people are interested in it and uh and they want to reach out they want to know more not only is this cool but do you hear what patrick just said to me he said i work for them now

Starting point is 00:14:38 he said yeah you work for us now thank you what questions you guys got for the meeting yeah what questions you guys got yeah i i don't know uh which one of you is better suited to answer this so i'll leave it up to you but i just want i'm curious what the reaction of the players was? Were they excited about this? Were they confused? Did it take some explaining or convincing? That'd been really cool. This is basically a test of my, of my job, right? This is the test question of how good I've done my job up until this point. So thank you for the, for the on-air interview. There's a layup then. They've been incredibly supportive, like, yeah, yeah. Yeah. From top down. So when you,

Starting point is 00:15:14 when you get owners that, that effectively, you know, run the, run the team, you know, buying so quickly, there's a great level of trust there between the organization. We've got an incredibly sound clubhouse where, you know, the leaders of the team, you know, educate the younger players coming through. And, you know, they've been nothing but supportive. You know, our athletes are intelligent players. They understand what's going on in world sport.

Starting point is 00:15:39 They see all the announcements with what's happening. And, you know, already we've had one player that's come to us and said, I want in. Can I have five years of salary upfront paid in Bitcoin? So that immediately tells me the way we've educated and the job Patrick has done has been first class in getting him to this point. You know, we can't thank our players enough

Starting point is 00:15:57 for buying in so quickly. Wait, wait, a player wants five years of salary paid upfront today in Bitcoin only? Yep. And did you guys do that or no? We're discussing it with the owners. It's an intriguing sort of proposal that he's brought to us.

Starting point is 00:16:14 And obviously there's so many conditions that we need to consider in terms of playing out those years, injuries, et cetera, et cetera. How does all that look? But we love the fact that his mindset now is one of the thinking in Bitcoin in the long term. That's exactly what we'd like to do. You guys would get a discount in what you pay him? Like he'd take some kind of haircut on the amount today to get it up front?

Starting point is 00:16:35 And that's exactly what he's thinking. He's thinking, well, if I accept a discount in five years' time, I'm going to be much further in front. Yeah. Are you guys pricing the contracts in Bitcoin or are they still in dollars or the Australian currency? Yeah, they're still in AUD. at the moment because we've got that agreement in place. So we need to honor those contracts. But moving forward, will that change? We think it will. So you're going to literally price the player contracts in Bitcoin, which, again, if the players want to get paid up front,

Starting point is 00:17:05 let's use an easy example, right? If I get paid, I don't know, let's, I'm going to say that you guys pay your players really well. So let's say you pay them 10 Bitcoin a year. We are the Yankees, aren't we, as you said? Yeah, Yankees, of course. Hey, you got to have the biggest checkbook. Let's go. Come on. If you're a player for the Perth Heat,

Starting point is 00:17:22 just send me a little bit of my management fee for getting better salaries here. No, so if you pay them 10 Bitcoin per year and you write that into the contract, if Bitcoin ends up being, you know, where I think most of us here think it's going to go in terms of much higher from a US dollar or AUD exchange rate,

Starting point is 00:17:40 you actually come out on the other end of this. Whereas if the players say up front, hey, give it to me for a discount today up front, then they come out in front and you pay them less because it's in today's dollar's terms. So how do you guys think about the balance between if you start to price the contracts in Bitcoin, like the team could actually come out

Starting point is 00:17:57 on the short end of that stick rather than kind of the better end? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, this is the ongoing thing, right? At the moment, you know, everybody probably listening to this show knows it's not the best unit of account at the moment just because of the volatility that we've seen,

Starting point is 00:18:12 the volatility being up and to the right. So at the moment, yeah, it doesn't make sense to use that as a unit account, but in the future, you know, it's just a matter of blocks before this thing takes over. Right. And as I said to Steve early on in our talks about what, how this was going to look, this isn't a negotiation anymore, right? Uh, this is taking over. Uh, it's just a matter of blocks. Uh, that time will come, um, how long it's going to be, you know, it could be, uh, 10, 20 years off into the future, but that is the future. And we're, we're able to see it now on the front line because we've done this. Like we're

Starting point is 00:18:36 having those conversations that weren't happening before, um, that aren't happening at other organizations. Um, and hopefully that will allow us to be nimble on our feet and to be quick and to recognize, okay, where are the strengths, where are the weaknesses, where are the efficiencies that we can capitalize on to be a better organization? So like you say, at the moment, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to price those things on either side of the conversation, but you know, it's good that you see people asking for it. It's good that you see people interested in it. It means I've done my job that, that the players are starting to recognize that they, it actually improves their performance, right? This changes sports. We've talked about

Starting point is 00:19:06 on a bunch of other media. It's like, this changes sports for the better. This is not just an announcement about the baseball team, right? Like Steve said, we could have done something NFT related, fan token. We could have just done a cash grab for ourselves. This is really changing sports. And that's what excites me about it, right? Not so much the baseball stuff, but it's the excitement of changing sports forever by adopting a Bitcoin standard. We hope a lot of teams follow up in our footsteps and we know that that's the case, right? It's going to happen eventually. We've, you know, the game has sort of been settled. Now it's just a matter of time before Bitcoin takes over. John, what are the questions you got? Yeah. Well, first of all,

Starting point is 00:19:38 congratulations on doing this. It's a big step. Obviously the first pro team to do something like this. So now that you guys are the first person, how are you looking at the balance sheet of your team? Is it all in Bitcoin? What is the allocation that you guys have used? Yeah, well, of course, there are going to be fiat bills. There still are providers to the team that operate in fiat. They're going to want to get paid. But it's basically from the financial side of the things, it's stuff as much of the excess capital that we can into Bitcoin, ride that up from an organizational point of view to take advantage of it. Like Steve said, the way that it's going to change sports is that we now have this number go up technology that to be able to fund the team in perpetuity,

Starting point is 00:20:14 depending on the amount of Bitcoin that we huddle on the balance sheet, like that changes the way that the entire organization acts from the top down. That also affects, you know, Bitcoin trickles into the players lives, they understand very well, you know, professional athletes are probably the easiest people to orange pill, right? They understand low time preference, they understand that if they want to become better, they themselves have to put the energy in, no one else can do it for them. They understand that's how Bitcoin works. They understand sacrifice and delaying gratification and holding those things out. So it's just a matter of time to get it through the system. And on that balance sheet side of things, it's huddle as much as you can. It's sell as much

Starting point is 00:20:49 stuff as you can in Bitcoin to people that want to support the network. There's not a whole big incentive to go out there and buy things in Bitcoin, but we've seen an amazing response from around the world of people that did want to support the team and did realize, okay, this is good because we can now, like I said before, sports operates as an example to those around us. That's why professional sports has utility in the first place. That's the value that it brings to the community is it shows you all the things that Bitcoin can bring to your life and make it better, right? All those things that we know and talk about all the time. That's exactly what sports are supposed to reinforce in the community. That's why they exist in the first

Starting point is 00:21:21 place. That's why you go to the game is to see those things. And it acts as a teaching and inspirational moment. And having Bitcoin on the balance sheet, operating with the Bitcoin standard, paying players in Bitcoin. It is going from that world where everything is marginally degrading to a world where everything is marginally increasing. And that one switch can change. We've seen it around the organization, just the smiles on people's faces, the level of interest, the level of intrigue from the top down, the organization has completely pivoted with this announcement. And it's been a really exciting time and we're looking forward to the future. Great. What questions do you have?

Starting point is 00:21:52 Yeah. First and foremost, pretty kudos to you guys for taking the leap of faith and getting into involved into doing something like this and obviously making a name for yourselves. And you're obviously very articulate about the space. So great educators about it. Uh, but my, my question for you though, is when I, when I talk with institutions and organizations and leagues here in the United States about utilizing Bitcoin and NFTs into it, I'm not trying to shill a shit coin here or Ethereum or Solana or anything like that. So please don't get me wrong here. But one of the, one of the things I really see with NFTs, uh, for organizations and brands and leagues, like what you're doing there with the heat is what NFTs could do for e-ticketing and ticketing and then

Starting point is 00:22:32 community building. So just really curious, have you looked at that at all in order to utilize that kind of tech for your sports league and for your brand? Not so much at the moment. You know, this is a sort of walk before you run scenario. It's like, what can we do right now to get the most leverage out of the Bitcoin network? Again, like from just the plugging in. Well, we immediately get so many wins from an organizational point of view. We get so many wins from a team point of you of like making the players happier, healthier, wealthier, all by adopting the standard that that has become sort of first order of this is what we need to take care of these things we need to look after. And these are the that's the easy win, right? The plugin, receive all the benefits.

Starting point is 00:23:09 You know, pretty much if we didn't announce it, we could have just done it. And it's as easy as signing up for an email, basically, that's all we had to do as an organization, which is one of the things we thought in the lead up to that, well, this is going to be the really hard part, like this is going to be the difficult part is how do we integrate with all the systems accounts, the payroll this is going to be complicated and uh lo and behold that was the easiest part like the hardest part was coming up with a decision of uh doing the due diligence on the back end of like again like steve said how is this why hasn't anyone else done this this seems like the perfect play if it makes sense for the individual it makes sense for the organization why why are we the ones

Starting point is 00:23:41 coming up with this and lo and behold well it just takes somebody to be the first one um and like with micro strategy you're going to see that in 12 months time uh you should see the success pay off and you'll see a host of other teams follow behind and uh again it's not so much that uh the nft for the ticket thing um is completely out the window but at the moment it's focusing on how can we get the most bang for the amount of energy we're putting in and what's the what's the return look like on that and at the moment it's bitcoin the the piece to me also uh that we didn't talk about is like what has been the response from fans or people who are already uh attendees of games etc like if you're saying hey we're gonna accept bitcoin um i'm assuming that

Starting point is 00:24:20 in the beginning you're not going to say only bitcoin you're going to say that you'll kind of accept multiple currencies and then maybe over time you'll go to only bitcoin or maybe you won't but what has been the fan response and kind of how do you guys look at attendees and how this may impact either positively or negatively their experience inside of the stadium across the whole organization it's been positive so we'll get a great test of how it will work inside the ballpark this Saturday night. So we're hosting a movie night at the ballpark and that'll be the first time that concession stands will be able to accept Bitcoin. So we appreciate that it's a gradual rollout over a period of time. And our fans have been really intelligent and understanding that as

Starting point is 00:25:00 well. So we certainly have had inquiries and questions and emails and people come to the ballpark asking, can they still purchase in fiat? How will that work? What will it look like? when you explain to them the process and how simple it is and that initially it will be an option, you can see that they're comfortable with it. But overall, as Patrick said, it's been the look of relief on everyone's face that's probably surprised us the most when we've taken this position. It's almost like everyone has been circling around Bitcoin, investigating it, researching it, thinking, do we get involved? And I know you had Nat Brunel a couple of days ago on the show and she said that she's finding now people wanting to purchase $100, $200.

Starting point is 00:25:38 It's like we're almost targeting that market in terms of the fan space that there's been so many people investigating Bitcoin and should they take that step? But now that the sports organization, the Perth Heat, have taken the approach of operating on a Bitcoin standard, it's that relief of, yes, what we've been reading makes sense. We would now like to dip our toe in the water. We're so thankful that Perth Heat as an organization has taken that first step in showing the way forward. So, so far, so good.

Starting point is 00:26:03 I'm really excited about what's going to happen in the ballpark this Saturday night. and then moving into our games in the early part of 2022. All right, before I let you guys go, I got a pitch for you. My brother John throws a nasty slider. What are the odds that we get him on the mound for a game? Well, we know he's the most athletic pomp brother or so he claims to be. Look, this is the great thing about what we can do now.

Starting point is 00:26:30 Probably we're so different to the NBA or the NFL. We don't really have any rules. And we're like the wild, wild west over here. So if Mayor Suarez wants to bring the team over to Miami, how about we get the Pomp brothers out there to throw the ceremonial first pitch, and then we'll actually test who has the best arm out of the three of you. No, no, no. See, what would happen is we would have John go on the mound for the opposing team.

Starting point is 00:26:52 I'd step up to the plate, and I'd hit a bomb off of him, and we'd get it on camera so that I could play that on repeat forever. John might hit me with a knuckleball. And you can just see that, can't you? pomp to pomp. He hits, he scores. And as you're running the bases, this is the great thing about what we're doing now. The Twitter world and the Bitcoin world will be able to tip you pomp. So as you're getting the first pace, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, second base, ding, ding, more, more, more, more, more. By the time you get to home plate, who knows what's in

Starting point is 00:27:19 your Twitter account through the tipping system. This is the future of sport. I love it. We've got so many things that we can do, which is cool. I love it. Where can we send people to find out more about this or maybe even more importantly, how can people help you guys? What do you guys need help with that folks who are watching this can kind of pitch in? Certainly, look, the biggest help is in terms of partnerships. So we'd love to speak to more Bitcoin-minded companies and moving forward with those in accepting payments in Bitcoin. Obviously, the fan can purchase our merchandise, bitcoinperfeet.com. And then we've got tipping as well. So as you can see now on screen, we've got the black jersey,

Starting point is 00:28:00 We've got the white jersey. We've got different caps across the range. And already, the response we've had worldwide has been quite overwhelming. So any support across all the platforms would be great. We've got a couple of jerseys coming your way. So we look forward to seeing the three of you wearing them on the best business show and promoting the Perth Heat and this becoming your baseball team in Australia. I love it. I'm dropping the link to the merchandise store in the chat, BitcoinPerthHeat.com. I'm shocked nobody had that URL already.

Starting point is 00:28:34 So you guys had a little advantage there. I'm going to be wearing my jersey for sure. When does the season start? We'll start playing games in late January, early February. So really looking forward to the start of our best games. Is it cold there then? No, it's perfect. It's summer.

Starting point is 00:28:50 It's going to be 35 degrees. It's always summer in Miami, so I got to ask other people about the seasons, but maybe we'll go to a game. I'm looking for a reason to visit. to go to australia yeah one of our brothers went to australia one time and he came back with uh what's the aborigine like uh the tube that they blow in for the didgeridoo yeah didgeridoo he was like 15 he came back with that thing and he wouldn't stop blowing it and right

Starting point is 00:29:15 it was like not nutella but it was like uh what's the food it's a vegemite We thought we were going to lose him to Down Under for a little bit there. Make your way to Perth and you're on the mound. We'll find an Aussie wife down there. We'll have the Pomp brothers on the mound. So ceremonial first pitch,

Starting point is 00:29:40 all three of you lined up at the same time. Let's do it. Bring the speed gun out for me. I don't know why you guys try to be pitchers I'm trying to just be the uh designated hitter they got the best job on the whole squad you only play once every few days you get paid a lot of money your arm hurts though your arm hurts you got all the pressure if you're the designated hitter you just go out and swing you can strike out seven out of ten times as long as you hit three home runs you're in the hall of fame you enjoy playing every day man I'm gonna I'm gonna

Starting point is 00:30:13 go every four to five all right guys listen thank you guys so much for uh for coming on where what uh what are your guys twitter accounts so we can send people to uh to follow you guys okay so in terms of twitter it's uh at perth eight uh yeah for the uh the club of camp my personal one is at steve nolkowski and uh and patrick has i think it's at uh is it pleb 21 patrick and cbo underscore 21 right just created just for the questions about cbo cbo yeah cbo underscore 21 new title in there i like it listen the uh i still uh i still can't get over the chief bitcoin officer if that becomes a thing patrick you get the uh don't worry about that he said that's definitely a thing all right fellows listen thank you guys so much this is super cool so i appreciate you

Starting point is 00:30:59 guys taking the time to uh to come on here and uh and hopefully more people will uh will follow your lead but uh we'll definitely have to bring you back to uh to get an update how it goes once you guys get into the season awesome thanks for having us bye guys

The Pomp Podcast - #736 The First Bitcoin Baseball Team w/ Steven Nelkovski & Patrick O'Sullivan

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