The Pomp Podcast - Rachel Feinstein, Actress & Comedian: The Stories of the NYFD and Bitcoin

Episode Date: June 27, 2019

Rachel Feinstein is an actress & stand-up comedian. She's married to a Captain in the NYFD who has been in Bitcoin for the last six years. In this conversation, Rachel and Anthony Pompliano discuss the daily routine of a comedian, how Rachel builds her career, what she finds so funny about finance folks, and she tells a number of hilarious stories about her husband and his friends' obsession with Bitcoin. -----If you enjoyed this conversation, share it with your colleagues & friends, rate, review, and subscribe.This podcast is presented by BlockWorks Group. For exclusive content and events that provide insights into the crypto and blockchain space, visit them at: https://www.blockworksgroup.io

What's up, everyone? This is Anthony Pompliano. Most of you know me as Pomp. You're listening to Off The Chain, simply the best podcast in crypto. Let's kick this thing off. Rachel Feinstein is an actress and stand-up comedian. She is married to a captain in the New York fire department who's been in Bitcoin for the last six years. In this conversation, we discuss the daily routine of a comedian, how Rachel built her career, what she finds so funny about finance folks. And then she tells me a number of hilarious stories about her husband and his friend's obsession with Bitcoin. I really enjoyed this conversation and I hope you do as well. Anthony Pompliano is a partner at Morgan Creek Digital. All opinions expressed by Pomp

or his guests on this podcast are solely their opinions and do not reflect the opinions of Morgan Creek Digital or Morgan Creek Capital Management. You should not treat any opinion expressed by Pomp as a specific inducement to make a particular investment or follow a particular strategy but only as an expression of his opinion this podcast is for informational purposes only all right guys bang bang this might be the most excited i've been for an episode i have rachel here she promised to attempt to be funny uh thank you so much for coming in and doing this with very little context i have no information she also keeps talking to the microphone really weird sorry um all right you are a professional comedian and i'm very flattered

to be invited to this sterile important room right now when we uh when she came she literally stood outside the conference room and wouldn't walk in because she said it looks like the place where important meetings happen i knew i had no place here yeah um all right i'm just gonna come in and yeah say a bad word too soon or something yeah this looks like a very important room where men have financial arguments so rachel has a unique perspective in that she one has very little context on crypto other than her husband is uh into crypto and bitcoin we'll get to that in a second let's start with your background and kind of how do you end up becoming a professional comedian well i moved to new york when i was 17 with this guy and his band called dick sister

um just because i was really into making really wise life decisions all right i wildly failed in school how old was he uh dick sister was um 22 i think at the time okay so i think it was legal yeah um is that legal i'm not sure okay let's not get into that okay whether i'm a victim or not we can loop back around to later um i'm definitely a victim of believing in dick sister okay so i moved to new york with dick sister and then um my parents are like wildly liberal so they never really questioned anything you know i didn't go to college and my mom was just like sounds fantastic she just sort of stood on the lawn and like some kind of menopausal cape just i think she was wearing a dashiki possibly just like sounds wonderful good luck rock on you know so they

had no logical questions which they should have and um and your dad is a civil my dad um was a federal prosecutor civil rights lawyer okay and now he plays blues full-time so he plays piano and zydeco accordion and so he's doing life the right way in terms of yeah both ends of the spectrum and i think that's why they encouraged me to do stand-up because you know in my dad's family you were either a doctor or lawyer and that was it so then he became a lawyer and he obviously did some interesting law like he prosecuted kkk cases in the south and he but he was a musician i mean he and so that was like his first love he plays everything by ear like piano, zydeco, accordion, harmonic, and any instrument he could just pick up and play on.

So I think he wished he'd done that earlier. So they were just like, go ahead, move in with Dick's sister, do whatever you want, just flail around in life and figure it out. All right, so 17, you come to New York. Yeah. How do you go from in a relationship with a 22-year-old musician to not? Well, Dick's sister dumped me, and that was very painful. What if I just started weeping right now?

But Dick's sister dumped me, and I wasn't expecting the dumping. You know, usually you feel a dump coming on like a soup or something. You kind of feel it collecting. Like, I was just eating a bagel in the kitchen. And he was like, I don't think we should be together anymore. I'm like, but Dick's sister. The band didn't like me. You guys were living together?

Yeah. I was like the Yoko Ono to Dick's sister. The band didn't want me around. They felt like I was, like, cockwalking their good time. And I was no fun. And Dick's sister just wanted to be free. And I speak for them collectively. I think that's what they wanted.

And so he dumped me. And then he would kind of, like, undump me sometimes. I think I rented a room with this Bengali woman that I met on The Greyhound. I was weeping about Dick's sister, and she was like, you should come live with me. I remember she was like, you know, never cry over the man. The man is not worth tears. Just come to live with me. She was like, my husband is like garbage person.

She was like, I don't even like my husband. I don't care. That's what my parents told me to marry. I have a good life. She's like, don't weep over a man. Forget this. She was like, come live with me. I remember she described the life we'd have, and she was like, you know, we'll have a good life.

we'll take yoga in the mornings we'll take marmalade i'm like i want to take marmalade and yoga in the mornings like it sounded delightful she's like we'll take toast and marmalade and yoga we'll have a good life a nice relaxed life without all this nastiness of the man so i was like absolutely so i moved right in with this bengali family okay and that got me to new york you can edit any of this out i'd say probably most of it um so that got me to new York and then Dick's sister was living in Staten Island at the time and so sometimes I would take that dumb ship to Staten Island and like sleep over and he would just like do a lot of blow and disappoint me sexually and then I would come back to the Bengali family again but that got me to New

York so uh and then I got a couple of jobs like I'm not good at selling things so I was supposed to, I remember I walked up Broadway one day. I knew nobody in the city. I was just like wildly lonely. You know when you move to New York and you're just like a different kind of loneliness. I'm like, people have friends here and they can afford to go to cafes and like have creative discussions. And yeah, I was just like so jealous of everyone. And I remember walking up Broadway and I went to this store called Fat Shoes and Clothes on Broadway. And it was just like a sneaker store, a sneaker clothing store. And I asked for a job and uh they gave it to me and i felt like i was like a beastie boy i'm like well i've

arrived i work on broadway in new york i'm like the coolest ever existed really just because i worked on broadway that's how low my standards were for myself after being freshly dumped by dick's sister so um and then i was fired in under four hours because i couldn't sell things i can't sell things i don't know how you guys do it i don't know how you sell things to each other i'm just assuming that that's what finance men do. But yeah. How does, how do you get fired in four hours? Like, what is that conversation?

Like, listen, it's over. Well, he wanted me to approach people that were trying to make a decision about whether they would buy an item of clothing and encourage them to do so. Okay. And it seems like a pretty straightforward task. I bet you could do it.

I can't do that. I just felt like intrusive and awful. And I'm like, so I would just walk up and I ended up sort of looking weirdly creepy, you know? Like I didn't compliment in the right way. I remember a guy was trying this shirt on, and I was like, that looks sexy. And he's like, no, don't say sexy. That's weird.

And I was like, I don't know. What are you supposed to say? It's just you want him to buy it, right? But it just sort of looked like I was hitting on the men, and yeah, no one really felt safe when they went in there, and they kind of just left and got weirdly grossed out. I can't sell things. I felt too strange and guilty, and I would just sort of weirdly hover, and I couldn't even fold the clothes.

My fold was disgusting. I saw the manager look at it, and he was real grossed out. it was like a slovenly it was not a ladies fold there's a big difference between the store fold and the like at home yeah it's a talent you know and and um i think i was just so bad he didn't think i had any room to really grow like he didn't feel like he could do much with me and to answer your question he didn't really say you're fired um there was more of a sadness to it he just kind of went up to me and he was like you go like and i'm like excuse me like i was like tomorrow like when should i show up and he's like no you're done like yeah it was sort of this

smearing indication towards the door it's just like no don't need this please you know i was like fair fair so um that was my first job in new york and then i got a job uh nannying and you know bartending and different things like that and then i met a guy in a bar and he said he was a comedian And I was like, I want to be a comedian. I do, you know, voices and characters and stuff. And he told me to go to this open mic and he was put me on it. It wasn't really fully an open mic. It was like a booked bar show, actually.

Okay. What's the difference between an open mic and a booked bar show? An open mic would be like a comedy club says this open mic starts at 8 p.m. And everybody just signs up and they'll keep going until like 12, 1. And I've been to many of those too, where you're sit there for like five hours and wait to do five minutes and it's mostly just comedians looking at you yep and like looking at their own pads really and just like what they what they're about to do themselves are they funny some of them are and then some of them are like horrifically bad okay yeah and then a book show is like you go

to the comedy club and they know exactly who's going to be on the there's there's like levels of book shows so what i did for the levels to this shit exactly um you said that like Nas I like that confidence yeah but uh so there's when you do a booked bar show it could be like open mic comics it's in like a bar where most people are hanging out but there's like a little kind of comedy show in the back type of thing and it's people that are just starting and they perform in a bar so they can get what's called state we call it stage time and so this guy talked to him for a little bit and he's like I'll put you in probably in between a few comedians that were a little better than I was I mean I was I was terrible I hadn't even done it yet

and so he put me on and you know gave me five minutes or whatever and that was my first time going on stage and so let's we'll come to like what you do now but on the first time you get on stage do you like sit down and write some jokes and you're like I think these are gonna be funny let me go up there and just like rattle them off or do you just get up there and you're like oh look at this person in the crowd you're an idiot and just kind of like tee off on people You should, ideally, the first time you go on stage, you know, write an act, write five minutes and really think about it and think what you're going to open with and close with and all this stuff. I sort of told aimless stories about my family, and I was so nervous that the microphone wasn't even really directed towards my mouth. It was just kind of like diagonally in front of my face, and I was wildly drunk because I had like four Jack and Cokes because I was so terrified.

And I don't, I'm a drinker, but I would drink like two beers or something. Like I'm not going to, that was the most I'd probably ever drank in a short period of time in my life because I was so terrified. So I went on, yeah, just shithouse wasted and kind of rambling about my family, but not understanding how to give it more context and explain what I was referring to. And also the microphone was just pointed due north. So no one heard me really. So it was an active.

Was there any, any laughing? I think there was a few laughs here and there, but from the people that were closer to me that could understand some of it. But I remember getting off and thinking, like, I was amazing. I was like, well, what comes next? You know, I was like a kid in the 50s. I was like, and then they'll put me right in the movie pictures, and I'll be a star. That's how it'll all work, sure.

Mr. Hollywood's probably here, and he'll see what I can do, and he'll put me right in the picture shows. Like, I really believe, like, that was it. I was phenomenal. And everybody was like, yeah, you weren't talking into the mic. And I just sort of slowly learned what a disaster it was. But it was addictive. I just knew I wanted to do it again and I wanted to get better.

And so how do you go from the first one? And we'll give you like a C plus on it. How do you go from that to doing a second show? Do you just go back to the same guy and you're like, hey, is there another time? There was somebody there and they were like, I do this show at Gotham Comedy Club and you have to bring three people. You have to bring three paying audience members and you can get seven minutes. if you do that and so a lot of those are called bringer shows and they do them all around new york city and it's a way that the comedy clubs can make money um but it also involves me kind

of like begging people to come selling things which i'm not good at but i tried really hard i would just go into this bar near where i lived at the time and uh just like this irish bar and i would just ask everyone there if they would come to my shows who's the drunkest person all right let's go i remember there's this one guy rufus and he like worked in the pool league at this bar okay and he was always like i'll be there baby and he was like morbidly obese and i always think how touching it was that rufus made his way all the way downtown for my dumb show and he would he was like you know the kind of obese where you need a lot of assistance you know he had like some sort of cane like a fat cane and i'm like sweet rufus fat caned his way downtown just to

support me he was like i'll be there baby that's it when i say it that's it and he was there rufus always came i wish i could find him now and i pray he doesn't have diabetes but um so i would beg people to come and then you know i'd get my three audience members and i would get to go up sometimes i wouldn't sometimes only get two paying members and then they wouldn't let me go on oh really they were strict they were really strict it would be they don't screw around with the three audience members no yeah what do you do so like when i hear kind of how comedians first start out the thing that catches my attention is five minutes seven minutes like most people I think are like oh you know the comedy show I watched or the special on Netflix is like 30 minutes an hour

right yeah that's a big difference between five minutes and 30 minutes like I've heard uh you know we're talking about Kevin Hart and stuff uh them talk about like look it's hard to write 30 minutes or an hour's worth of content but five minutes and seven minutes sounds really short like is it more difficult to do it for a very short period of time now it feels very difficult to me because now that I'm headlining, I'm doing an hour. So I don't like doing short sets. Also, I'm a storyteller. So I like to be able to like, let a joke breathe. And I'm not, I don't write like monologue style jokes, which are very quick, clean, you know, like, like very crisp, good late night jokes. So when I do like the Tonight Show or something, I've done it a couple times.

And it's like, it's a lot of work for me, because I have to condense, condense, you know, so and you have to be a lot cleaner. Conan, you can be a little dirtier, which I appreciate. But whenever I do one of those late night five minute sets it's much more work for me than doing a 20 minute set because I have to really you don't have a lot a long time for the crowd to get to know you and you're trying to say a lot really quickly about yourself so you have to kind of find what's the best part of this what's the cleanest part of this where's the biggest laugh in this late night it's very technical you have to listen to your set a million times and hear where the laughs are and where they aren't and kind of just clean all the fat away do you like when you're

practicing so you write whatever the jokes are going to be kind of uh the content do you actually read it out loud record it and like re-listen to yourself do you practice with like an audience like how do you actually I tape my sets and then I listen to them but see a lot of times it's so brutal listening to yourself because you just you hear all your dumb verbal tics and you're just like oh I stink why does anyone watch me you know it's very difficult but you have to work through that and listen to yourself I find because that's the way you get better so when I started I wish I listen to myself more because I could have seen all these weird erratic things that I was doing that now I see on these old tapes um and it's just so clear to me that if I listened to myself

more early on I would have grown so much faster what's the weirdest thing that you look back now and you're like how did I ever get here doing that I mean god everything but but you know some comics have told me like there's this comic Billy Burr who's Bill Burr um we all call him Billy you know but he's got to be professional when he's on the stage it's bill but uh i remember billy saying like because i was like every time i look at one of my last specials i'm just like oh shut up like what was i saying just like rambling all my big attitudinal like points i needed to make and he's like that's good that means you're growing like you should look at your last special and just want to close yourself like a box if you look at your last special and you're like

i was really onto something like you know it's kind of there is some of it where that's the nature of growth you want to be a little bit like kind of over what you were saying five years ago if you're evolving as a comic but when you first start it's it's very you're doing all kinds of little technical things that you need to hear yourself doing because you're so nervous in the beginning that you're you're not in control so it's like a real wild experience yeah start stand up when when you've done enough how many shows you think you've done i mean thousands and thousands I mean, I've been doing it for almost 20 years since I first moved to New York. And how many shows a year do you think you do?

See, I'm not good at math. This is where I get real sleepy. But I do a couple shows at night. And then maybe some people in here can crunch the numbers on that. But I do a couple shows a night. Yeah, like tonight I have three spots. Okay, so you do three shows tonight, which is a Thursday. And you'll do that Thursday, Friday, Saturday?

You'll do it like every night of the week? Most nights a week, yeah. Oh, okay. It depends. Some nights you end up not doing any shows or if you have something you have to go to or do. So you can do like 10 to 15 shows in a week easy. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Definitely, yeah. Especially if you're working on something or you're working on a special. But when I'm on the road, I do longer times, like 45 minutes or an hour. So when I do those long sets, I'll do less shows. Got it. So I'm not a mathematician either, but if you do 10 shows a week times 52 weeks, it's 520. That's a lot of shows in a year. That's fucking impressive as shit.

Yeah, I used a calculator. Don't tell anybody. All right. So you have gone from the first five minutes where you're absolutely hammered and you don't even know how to speak into the microphone to now you have a Netflix show. You've got an Amazon show. There's too many shows for me to actually remember them all. How do you break out of like the dark, weird paying club with shitty food in New York City to you have a Netflix show? Like how does that happen? um over a lot of time but in everybody's story is different but for me it's just comics comics helped me out so comics that had more power than i did would put me on things and get me work so that was like what does that mean right so like you're at some comedy club and you know you're doing your thing people are laughing whatever somebody comes up to you it's like hey i think that you should tomorrow come to this other show somewhere else and yeah or a tv show like you should do this part on my thing or my sketch show or whatever so um and it can go either way like i remember one of the first times i did um i started playing at like a regular comedy club and they

gave me five minutes and i went on after tracy morgan and he killed like he did like he's not even funny he did like 20 minutes on how to fuck a bitch like he was like how to really you got a punisher and it was like the nastiest set but like crushing you know it was all like here's how you fuck a bitch let me just like and it was very organized too like here this is this is the point where like 97 of all the finance folks just stop listening but go ahead but anyway so and then i went on after tracy and i did like a minute and somebody this comic told me once he was like you should if you're bombing really bad just say the most honest thing that comes to your mind and the crowd will respect your honesty i was bombing they wanted tracy back they were furious and i said

it's my 22nd birthday that was like the most honest thing i could think of i remember this woman goes 22 years of not being funny and then she slowly high-fived her entire table i still remember that barrage of high-fives it was the kind of bomb where your everything slows down like your depth perception is somehow affected and yeah so what do you do in that situation i mean you just try not to kill yourself but But stand-up is so exciting when it goes well that you're addicted to it. And luckily, I have no other skills. So I always wanted to be one of those people that was like,

I could have been a doctor, but I made this noble decision to leave it all for the arts. I was a terrible student, and yeah, that's what I like to do, imitate people and talk shit. And when you go to these shows, I either thankfully or unthankfully have never been at a show where people have started heckling and roasting the person on stage. Yeah. I'm assuming that every comedian's been in a situation where, whether it's a one-off. Oh, yeah. I was on stage in Alabama, and in the middle of my show, I talk about this in my Netflix

special, this guy just stood up and he goes, you have a camel toe. That happened to me. That was a moment in my life. And I didn't think I did, but I couldn't look down because the whole audience would look with me. And then this woman across the room stood up and she goes, no, she doesn't have a camel toe. I thought the same thing at first.

So now the audience has turned into a town hall meeting about my crotch. And she goes, it's not a camel toe. It's the way the lad is hitting on her trousers. And he was like, no, no, that's legit camel. So that's a moment in my life. Like you hurl yourself around to these strange towns and have unspeakable things said to you. But then you also have the best sets and the most fun. And yeah.

And so when you leave, are you like, well, that went well? Or are you like, wow, I hope I'm never in that situation again. Well, the camel toe thing, the guy got kicked out. it was funny because as he was oh so that's like awful like even there are rules in the places like you can't say say to a comic that she has camel toe i mean that's not written on a wall somewhere but they'll probably throw you out if you do that he said it so so you can say just there's punishment yeah you just have to leave but but is that common where somebody will stand up and like heckle or not sometimes yeah yeah people heckle people don't usually like in your average show

like they'll run a tight ship like at the comedy cellar where i play that town they tell the crowd like they don't shut up talk to the comics eat the shitty food yeah exactly but it does happen of course when you're on the road and drunks and you know people scream all kinds of insane stuff yeah and they also just don't understand people don't understand what their responsibility is as an audience member and often they're shit-faced so you'll be in the middle of the story and like somebody will be like i do that too me and my friends are crazy and you're like no no it's not this isn't your moment right now kelly and she's like oh my god thank you like if you tell her she's just mad she's like but everything's me yeah so everybody thinks they're like the funny

kids and they'll come to you after your show and be like i'm funny and they just sort of fall over do you try to like if somebody tries to interrupt you do you try to just incorporate it into the piece yeah you try to just like mock them and quickly address them yeah you know the so uh i think the question on everyone's mind when they talk to comedians is like as the comedian where should people sit and not sit in the arena like if you don't like is there is there a safe zone if you don't want comics to talk to you just sit in the yes and in the back sit in the back but like some comedians i've seen and i won't name names but uh but sam does this um they'll like intentionally be like who's sitting in the back who's hiding from me and then like they'll go

right there so it's like the back or the front i feel like are both not safe zones if you don't talk to the comic the chances are they probably won't address you they might if you're wearing like something like really jarring and noticeable or if they hear you say something to your friend loudly they might pick on you or you know so if you have your phone out or if you're doing yeah it's just like some dumb twatty thing um and uh then they might they might you know give you some shit but for the most part if the most dangerous vulnerable spot would be right in the front row because the host usually warms up the crowd and they just take a they kind of survey who's around and yeah it's easy they're sitting right there and some people love it some people like will

wear like a dumb hawaiian top just so that someone makes fun of it it's kind of fascinating yeah yeah that's fine they probably want to be comedians but realize they can't be funny so that's the best way to be part of the show um all right so when you're recording for netflix amazon etc do you know that it's being recorded do they record like 10 different sets and then they try to pick the best one oh no it's like a special taping so they know and so they're like hey game time is there And, yeah, whenever I'm taping a TV special, I know, and it's been booked and approved, and it's gone through standards and practices, and, you know, legal people have looked at it and said how many times I'm allowed to say twat, and they've been like, you're only allowed to say twats. So that's one of my questions. Yeah.

Are there, do they censor you? Yeah, it depends on what network you're playing, but there's always some level of censorship. Sometimes it could be a brand issue, you know, like you can't say this brand, or we have a good relationship with that brand, you can say them. or you'll have to substitute a word and and sometimes that works out fine but sometimes just like specific is funny yeah it's funnier in this joke if i say the actual thing and do you like have they seen the set before and then that's how they're giving feedback or do you like hand them like hey here's my script like this is basically what i'm going to say if i'm going to do like a television special like my first half hour special i did for comedy central i sent them

a half hour tape of a performance like this is basically the special i would like to do and they'll say yes you have a special and give you some notes like and that you but you can't say this and you can't say that and they'll run it through legal and sometimes you might even send a dirty set knowing that they know you're not planning on doing that but you know got it so you send and then they approve if you're going to do a show like the tonight show you would always send them something clean because it's just such a clean family program you don't even want to send the tonight show anything dirty you know got it and then uh is it inbound or outbound like are you ever like hey you know what i haven't been on the tonight show like i'd like to do that and

then you reach out to them or is it more of your manager your agent like now you know oh you have an agent yeah yeah my agency would maybe like send say you know say something to the night show sometimes they they reach out to you you know now i have relationships with these people so the booker of the tonight show you do it a couple times he becomes like a buddy of yours and uh so like recently i had just done conan and he messaged me like hey can you do this uh can you do the tonight show on tuesday i'm like i just burned five minutes on conan how am i gonna write a brand new set for tuesday but it was a cool thing because jimmy was doing it out in the city so he was going around new york and and like catching like whatever the nightlife was and so he was

like it's gonna be an interesting episode like conor mcgregor is gonna meet him at this irish pub and then you know like next stop he'll be at the cellar so i was like yeah i should do that so i just have to cram and do like eight sets a night and just get that new five minutes together all right so uh two things here one the late night show host to me is like basically comedians and late night show host uh they do whatever the hell they want right and so like i can just imagine whether it's jimmy fallon conan whatever something like i think tomorrow night we should uh let's just go to the clubs and talk to all the idiots who are drunk standing outside and uh oh conor mcgregor's in town like let's meet him like they just come up with these ridiculous things and it's

basically like if you and your friends sat around a room and said what's the most ridiculous thing we could go do and film these guys are just like that's what they do for their jobs right yeah and that's how it is like when you're doing a comedy show you're involved in a comedy show it's always fun because you're just you're you're sitting you're brainstorming sessions are just like what unacceptable nonsense can we get away with you know i remember doing this like segment for this comedy central pilot that i was doing where i was like we were thinking of different pranks and so i was like oh how about i'll pretend to be a stripper at this bachelor party and then um as i start to like give the guys a dance um i'll just start like weeping or complaining about my like

personal problems and um or doing like really heinous dances you know so i was like i'll do some sort of like russian foul jig i just i was basically just like how can i make it so these guys don't even want to lap dance anymore we did a thing where we had a child actor come in and and i pretended like it was my kid and i was like like i'm so sorry you don't mind like my son's here like his father's supposed to and one of the guys was like yeah no problem let's just get over with or whatever and so I put this child in the corner like gave him some crayons right this actor and this douche was still just like all right get it over with you know like he was still just absolutely ready and rearing to go for his lap dance and then I gave the kid like things to draw and this is like

what writers will brainstorm I was like yeah we should have him draw like me with like a needle in my arm you know like he's like clearly every red flag the kid is drawing it's just like a cry for help so it's just like mom on a pole yeah yeah yeah like our mom with like a vague and you guys are just and you guys just sitting there in like a circle comedy writers would sit around and just talk shit about all the different ways we can fuck with these poor guys we're just trying to have a fun-loving bachelor party yep so so one of them was we made like fake tapes that i could do as i was like about to strip so one of them was like like you've made the decision to terminate a pregnancy there's nothing wrong with that decision you know and so that i'm like oh i'm sorry wrong

like track yeah it's like all the things the most jarring horrific thing a man could hear right when he was about to give a lap dance i just kept acting like i pressed the wrong button i'm like oops daisy i've done it again you know yeah and then i just started doing like the dumbest most heinous dance we didn't get them a second stripper like in the main part of the apartment see this is the kind of thing that comics would sit around trying to figure out we're like we don't infuriate these guys so we had like a regular we'll have like a joke and then we'll have like a regular person that we bring in so after i put them through my like and they're just as flaccid as the day is long after i put them through my nonsense and they'll just go back and get to

finish their actual party and maybe they'll be more likely to sign the release you know so so you record it and then get the releases later yeah and then we would get the releases later and uh does anybody say like no way oh yeah i mean most of the guys said no but it was a pilot so we could just like put a bar over their eyes a couple of the guys did sign um i have no idea why i mean it was definitely a huge mistake if it ever aired they would have definitely cock blocked them in the future yeah but um but some of the guys did sign and you have like ways you get people to sign like one time I did this thing where I wore a wedding dress and I was trying to like hit on guys in the wedding dress like how many men will go home with a woman who's like actively about to

get married you know like like and so I would just went up to guys at Grand Central and this like big gown and told some insane story like about my boyfriend how he just like screwed me over my fiance and then I'm and then I kind of like slowly fall apart this particular bit was called red called red flags so i would just basically say every red flag like how many red flags will a man ignore if he wants to get laid and just what will he just dismiss if he wants to insert himself inside of anything you know ballpark like less than five or like more than 20 it got pretty crazy like we had like this abused doll that we gave me that would fall out of my purse while i was talking to the guys like it's just like a doll that we'd like cut the hair up so comics are like

writing like with a marker on this doll just like slide on the dolls for it well because to me the part of like a lot of this stuff that's so funny is uh there's like truth to what you're trying to show right like there's art to it right of like we're trying to show human behavior yeah yeah absolutely and so in that situation like i can imagine some people are like get the hell away from me right some people are like you know yes i'm all in whatever you know whatever you're trying to prove uh but i think if i'm in new york and somebody comes up and starts saying anything crazy i immediately think like that you're being pranked just something right i mean there's there's been too many shows at this point like you see somebody come up and they got some wild story

like every new yorker has you know perfected the like hand wave without even saying anything it's just like like just leave me alone you know it is getting harder and harder because people know you must be full of shit like you're in the middle of grand central picking on tourists right in a wedding gown but sometimes what you do is now that people are so savvy is that i would just sit there and weep like in this wedding gown until a man approached me so sometimes but i mean i do feel vaguely guilty about all of this although sometimes people are really happy to be on television i wouldn't feel guilty about it all they probably think it's funny to some degree yeah a lot of people actually are like glad that you did it but uh i dropped all this stuff out of my bag like

um you know we put the dumbest stuff just like all these pills so this guy would just help me with my pills and be like i'm like where are we going again like and i'm already calling him babe i'm like babe where are we going we need to get out of like in my gown yeah yeah so some guys would ignore like all kinds of like insane nonsense they'd pick the doll up like give it a good look like if you pick up an abused doll out of a woman's purse and see that it says slut on its forehead you know it's time to just like go home yeah just walk away yeah just go watch you porn get away and do you guys like in a situation like that does the camera crew come out of like and like surprise them and be like ah you like you've been pranked type stuff i remember like

ashton kutcher had a show where like then at the end they basically said you've been pranked and they got to see the reaction in this particular comedy central pilot we didn't we didn't tell them we didn't use their reactions but we um we just kind of cut together all the different stuff there's so many funny things that happen you have to make choices it's like i loved a lot of their reactions but you have to kind of just streamline all this stuff that happens and these guys that are in the show called impractical jokers one of them came at the end he was like my husband trying to to like make up with me you know i've actually seen that show and it's pretty funny it's hilarious like so for those that don't know impractical jokers is basically uh i think it's four guys

um and they're all like buddies uh they select one of them to go into a situation so they'll be like hey go into the mall and they have an earpiece and the whole game is the other three guys basically tell them what to do or say and the person who is the you know the the guy in the mall has to do or say whatever his friend's saying and if they don't they lose and so they'll be like hey walk up to that woman right there and say you know x and you can imagine you know it's the most outrageous kind of inappropriate things possible that they think but it's such a fun thing to do i used to do hysterical i used to co-host this show with shack on true tv and he would let me take his phone and text sparkly it's my favorite thing to do so i just text sparkly like the dumbest

stuff like as as if i was shack i'm like i feel sad sometimes why would he text sparkly that you And what would Charles Barkley respond to it? I wrote, like, I feel like we don't do enough together. Like, I feel like you don't spend enough time with me. Like, I just acted like a needy friend. I was like, I want to do more stuff with you. We should go to Pottery Barn. Barkley wrote back, I'd rather get a pedicure with Dwight Howard

than go to Pottery Barn with you. Barkley was pretty funny. But Shaq would just give me his phone and let me text, like, unacceptable stuff to everybody. They're not comedians, but they probably should be because on TNT. Shaq is hilarious. I used to love Inside the NBA. That was one of my favorite things to watch ever because they would trash each other the way comedians do.

I remember Barkley had on these tube socks this one episode of Inside the NBA, and they're trying to discuss a play, and they just keep cracking up. Like, why would he wear tube socks with the slacks and tube socks? They're just trashing his socks, and they can't even focus on the play. Shaq would just stop and be like, why? Walk me through what you were thinking. Why would you put on a nice socks and get a white puffy tube socks? You're dumb. And they would just trash each other the whole episode. So I used to love stuff like that.

I don't know if you've seen the clip recently, but it's the two of them. They're at a game. So it's not on the set. It's actually like, you know, overlooking the game. And Charles is, I think he's eating chicken fingers. And Shaq just starts teeing off on them, calling them fat, you know, the whole thing. And at one point, it gets pretty serious where you can tell they're actually getting mad at each other. And Shaq hits them with like, shut up before I come over there and, you know, beat your fat ass or whatever.

And my favorite is Kenny and I forget the other guy. but they're kind of in the middle and kenny's usually laughing and you know he's kind of egging both of them on but then the other guy he's like whoa hold on like he's the adult that's supposed to keep everybody in line and he just lost control in this one segment and so it it is exactly how comedians i would picture them all hanging out that's what we do we just like lay around and trash each other all day i mean we're such like children so it was really fun to do that show with shaq because he that's how he is too he's just exactly how you would imagine him he's like a big kid he talks to everyone he loves to be mocked before each each like segment he'd be like

make fun of how i can't shoot a free throw like i just want you to make fun of him you know be like trash helping my hips have gotten you know like he would just give you ideas of what to say about him and whenever i came on he would be like she's the jewish nikki minaj like thicker than a snicker this racial fan stat like so he was just silly and fun and yeah and loved it when you mocked him yeah yeah he's just enjoying life he's the best guy he was so fun we would just like go to lunch people would walk up to him and bother him and I'm like how does he go anywhere and he would talk to everyone I remember this woman who walked up we're in the middle of the meal like we're eating lunch the cast and she just walks up to him and she was like um she's like I'm sorry to bother

you but I'm a nurse and I just wanted you to make a video for me where you could just say like I'm the best nurse that's ever existed and my name's Gina so if you could just say like Gina's the best nurse and you would think like he's literally chewing his food but he just puts his you'd be furious right he just puts his fork down he's like gina is the finest nurse of all the nurses in all the land he's like no one can fuck with gina nobody can fuck with gina i'm telling you right now i give him my seal of approval gina's neighborhood approved and he was just like immediately did it everything she asked him to do and he was like that he was as delightful as you would want him to be like but he probably goes back and he's talking to like charles barkley

he's like you won't believe this this woman came up to me right and he's like and i said she's the finest nurse in all the land and charles like that's pretty funny man all right so now you you've done a whole bunch of stuff but you uh you've got this show uh historical roast which uh it's pretty incredible that they've put this on the air right but it also is pretty funny where you basically take the role of a historical figure and then you roast each other and so like anne frank hitler martin luther king etc like just describe what the point of it is the show is part of a six-part series on netflix and they basically they roast historical figures they actually roast like heroes so it's like martin luther king or like lincoln and frank and the

idea is not hitler not hitler hitler is on the roast playing himself like i was anne frank and anne frank roast and hitler serves on the dais so it's like all these characters and anne frank's you know the the uh so hitler is roasting anne frank no no well yes but um in the end yes he is that is correct but in the end kind of the idea is that you give the heroine or the hero the last laugh so yes they all are roasting but really it's more of a roast of like world war ii itself you know it's just like this big kind of historical dialogue with jokes but you you hopefully learn about the historical character in the process like you learned a whole life story and it's kind of a a tribute to the person um so the idea of it you just hear like you're gonna roast anne frank you

know like and Jeff starts a special like welcome to the roast of Anne Frank and the end of my career you know so the idea of it uh it sounds like you know like appalling but if you actually watch all of them it's really a tribute that's what a roast is so it's just a way to to inform people about people with with jokes you know you're talking about like the nuances of art and then like the intersection of like I'll just call it like the pc culture right I mean just the the the belief that like how could you ever say that right and without getting into like all the political pieces of it how do you deal with you know that segment for example somebody takes something out of context right and then also and some people are tweeting at you and they're going

crazy like how could you possibly ever you know do this that you're so disrespectful but you know all that kind of stuff like I'm assuming people do it one may correct me if I'm wrong and then like how do you handle that are you just like shut up uh I wish I could say I don't care but I do care you know i want people to think i'm a nice girl i want people to see where i'm coming from i want them to understand why i said something but they're not they're not gonna all understand that so do you like respond and you try to explain it or no i really stop responding you know i used to and i would like write back to people and you know i mean there was some guy in one of my videos named mr twat waffles uh and he just like wrote under some youtube video like some you know

complete attack of what i was trying to do and then i'm like at a certain point i'm like why am i defending myself to mr twat waffle 76 like just you know let it go you know i'm arguing with like yes i'm mississippi teenager yeah what am i doing right now so i do want everyone to understand me and want them to understand where i'm coming from and not judge me but they're going to judge you and some people aren't going to like you and you know i wish i could say like i don't care but i do i definitely care but you just have to care less you know so every time you do a special or a thing you get you know lovely supportive tweets and then you get um like in my last uh tv thing i did the guy just wrote uh dear rachel you've gained weight no you're getting heavy but i like

that he wrote dear rachel like it just started like it was gonna be like it's like a friend like a pen pal exactly dear rachel and then just you're getting heavy do you respond no i mean i don't respond but like and then sometimes i've gotten things like there's some guy named dr dumpster fire um that wrote under my videos like they help each other hate me dr dumpster fire was like she's particularly awful here and then this other guy named hate female comics was like oh yeah look at three four like why am i reading anything it's that his screen name is hate female comics and mr twat waffles and hammer like helping each other be against me so people just aren't gonna like you can't do anything about it i do care it gets to me sometimes but not as much as

i used to because i'm used to it when i first did like last comic standing which is this this reality show and kind of how i was able to like quit my day job and stuff i that was the first time that i'd gotten like a taste of like what happens when you're on tv and there's just all these people dissecting you and like everybody had decided and this one like reddit thing that like i was only advancing in this show because i was like sleeping with the producer because we were both jews who i only met like maybe twice he was just like this so you didn't sleep with them no i did not put out in terms of i don't think barry even hit on me but i believe his name is barry but yeah i was like it was just sort of like this kindly man i'd met once or twice but

people had entire theories about why you know and i'm like i've been on the road for years like and i wanted to like i want them to know what it really means to get to that point but it's dreaded they're not gonna know you know they're all in on the conspiracy theories exactly it's more fun that way yeah yeah and it's like i'd like everybody to know where i'm coming from but some people also like to be offended it makes them feel good if they have something to be outraged about so they can just hear the roast of anne frank like you can't do that that's disgusting that's appalling but watch it it's a tribute to her with jokes it's a way to get millennials to learn about anne frank that would never have known do people write articles about like in

the outrage culture type stuff and it just drives more viewership yes and there are there are a lot of articles about the roast itself and like you know how horrific the idea is that you could do this and then there's a lot of positive ones too so you realize like oh people are going to start to stick up for you and the right people will read it and get where you're coming from and and um you know the idea of it does sound kind of shocking but then if you watch it you just see like oh it's just a way to like that's the way that like jews have always coped with pain just like dark weird humor about about the horrors of life you know and i think that the people that are really suffering like in this country the person that's like you know on a bus taking a

kid to a cancer treatment or something, just the real, the really saddest, worst things that you could go through. I think those people aren't the ones complaining. Like those people are grateful for a laugh, you know, and use it in their own life to cope with like unfair, unimaginable circumstances. So, but the people that are often the outraged people that are, they wake up and they're like, what am I going to be, you know, like really upset about today? I feel like a lot of them have very like cozy life. It's a luxury to stop and decide what offends you every day. you know of course what uh how many people you think you've blocked on twitter oh my god hundreds thousands yeah i mean it's a lot yeah a lot yeah definitely definitely hundreds i mean

it's a mixture of that or be like like for anne frank it was just like people telling me i was disgusting or it would be like like i dressed they dressed me like a school girl so it'd be like just like highly sexual like somewhat shocking tweets from guys you have to block about like yeah, is it weird that I just beat to Anne Frank? And I'm like, why do you need to tell me that? You know, like, it's just funny. The internet is wild. Yeah, people will just, like, DM you, like,

is it strange that outfit did something for me? Also, why tell anyone when you beat off? Like, you don't need to put it in a Fitbit or something. Like, yeah, just quietly beat off and, like, maybe don't DM someone and let them know you did it. But, yeah, it's just, like, alarming, like, highly sexual messages

or just, like, outrage, outrage. and then there's like really great like supportive people yeah it's like hey we loved your set at the cellar last night or when are you gonna do another special yeah yeah absolutely what um so are you worried at all about like um things that you did five ten years ago that at the time were you know quote unquote not part of the outrage culture that now all of a sudden everyone freaks out about yeah people like go and like dig it up it could be taken out of context and like does that change the things that you say today because you're like oh i wonder in 10 years if it's going to be inappropriate to like do x or are you just like whatever i mean i try to be like aware to some

degree how something comes out because you want because you do want people to understand you want people to understand but there's some people that won't um and yeah i look back at a joke i made 10 years ago that i just probably wouldn't make now just like the way people use words now they wouldn't use words words become offensive over time that didn't used to be i don't even think there's anything wrong with that like you know it's like there's like my grandfather says like oriental like that's not really cool it's not a good look you know i mean he's dead now but zady that wasn't good um so yeah and then you grow and emerge and so you look at something you said and you're just like yeah i was like i sounded like a wild moron then yeah but if you take like i don't

know if oriental initially fits into this or not but there are definitely words that at one point like that was actually the like pc way to describe something right and like the language was that was a positive and now it's completely gone the other way now it's a negative right because there's some things that are just like oh you know that wasn't cool anymore right and so it was neutral now it's negative like okay we kind of expect that but i think the big shifts of like wow this thought process was encouraged at one point now we're actually like all freaking out on the internet over it how did that happen in 30 years like like that was a pretty big shift right um and it seems like comedians part of your job is to offend people but do it in an artful way to make people

laugh to um you know i think you said earlier like kind of be an asshole but also like have a point to it yeah and so yeah that could be very quickly you know again 10 years later all of a sudden people are like oh i can't believe you said that yeah and also i just feel like people need to hear people out so like there's a story i tell where i talk about this guy picking me up on the road and my last i think it's my last special i'm not sure but uh and just like what it's like to be on the road and how they'll just send like any sex offender to go pick you up from the airport and And this guy picked me up, and he was like, you was the first Jewish that I had ever met in my life, which I guess is better than being his last Jewish. I'm not sure.

But you'll just get into, like, you know, I got into cars where these people are, like, crackling with madness. And so I'm just discussing my life as a comic. And somebody wrote me this long thing about, like, you know, like, that's disgusting and not all Southern people hate Jews. I'm like, obviously not. I'm speaking about one specific, unstable man that picked me up from an airport, you know. So sometimes people are having an argument in their own heads that has nothing to do with you. And I'm like, yeah, so now I can't actually tell a story of something that happened to me? Yeah, yeah.

Do you tell people, like, if you're sitting on a plane and they ask, like, what do you do for a living, you tell them you're a comedian? Sometimes not, honestly. Sometimes I just try to say something real boring, depending on the mood I'm in. Because they're like, hey, tell me a joke, right? Yeah, yeah. And if you don't feel funny, then people will just be like, I've actually had a flight where somebody was like, you're a comedian? like we'll be funny right now but they just it's not like that with certain other careers like you wouldn't ask a doctor to operate on you immediately or something hey fix my knee and they'll they'll

actually look at me this happened once this guy looked at me at the end of a flight and he was like you went you went actually very good like he really believed the flight itself was a show and then i had bombed and i'm like i was just gently resting you know like i hope i wasn't Yeah. So I recently sat on a plane next to a guy who immediately I could tell he was a talker. And so I put the AirPods in like I'm like actively trying to make it obvious I'm not trying to talk. And I look at him and he's got his phone and he's taking pictures, but he's doing it in only the way that an 80 year old could take pictures. So he's holding it up like it's, you know, he's reading the newspaper and can barely see. And he's punching it with his index finger like taking pictures of you.

No, no, no. Taking pictures out the window. but the pictures uh i i almost felt bad i literally almost at one point took his phone from him and took a picture for him because every single picture he took half of it was out the window and half of it was like the side of the plane like the so he just like had like bad aim and so he probably took no lie like 40 photos right and so put his phone down whatever uh i get up to go to the bathroom and when i came back he like saw his opportunity so he leans over and He goes, I'm going to New York for Father's Day, right? And I was like, you know, congratulations.

I think you probably have like grandkids or great grandkids. He's like, I'm 80. I'm going to see my sister. She's 84. I've had two heart attacks. I've had two knee – and he goes into this whole spiel. And I literally in my head was like, if you want to get out of this conversation alive, like just put the AirPods in right now.

And I couldn't bring myself to do it. But it was him just talking. And I'm sitting here thinking, like, wow, if you're a comedian, I'm sure people are literally, like, once they hear that you're a comedian, game over. Right? They're just like, well, what about this? Tell me this joke. You know, perform. And I've heard Kevin Hart talk about it in the sense of, like, sometimes I don't want to perform.

Sometimes I just want to, like, eat my food. Right? Like, I don't want to actually tell you a joke. I don't have a joke for you. Like, go away. Yeah, we have other aspects to our character, too. So people are very confused like that with comedians. just like you might have a lovely conversation and no one's being funny and they they're just

like but you're not in like a jack-in-the-box like yeah they just it's funny because my husband and I were set up and and his friends called him up and here's how he described me and I always think about this because I feel like it's just like how sometimes people see comedians it's actually such an insulting description but his buddy called him up and he was like how would you like to meet a semi-famous Jewish jokester it's like the least arousing phrase a man could possibly hear like it sounds like a character from fiddler on the roof like just some elder selling riddles a jokester jokester yeah like i can't yeah that's the phrase you hear as a man you're like i'll stay in on a friday night like i'll take my chances and stay inside but uh yeah i was thinking

like some people see you as that like they think that you're just like dispensing yeah riddles or something even my my my father-in-law like we'll go out dinner with them and i'm like well you didn't say anything funny tonight you know we'll be in jokes i thought you had some jokes so he just doesn't understand yeah he thought before dinner you were like putting together a set for him and he's gonna get like a unique experience um all right you live in new york uh finances prevalent here i wanted you to come on the podcast because i feel like everyone in financing especially in crypto uh and bitcoin think that like their world is the world they don't realize that people outside might be laughing and like, hey, you guys all look like idiots. What is your perspective of

like the finance world in New York coming from not that world? I mean, I know nothing about finance at all. Which got me more excited to have you come on because I was like, perfect. She'll just say what she means. Part of it is that I'm just like vaguely impressed. The same reason I didn't want to walk in the room. I'm like, oh, these are like wise people that deal with, you know, real things and aren't just like, you know, taking smack, talking smack and, you know, bothering people in a wedding dress. But by the way, they all think they're funny and they're not. So like you're you've got one leg up on them. But go ahead. Well, my husband is really into Bitcoin and cryptocurrency and he's a fireman. Firemen love Bitcoin. You know, every fireman has a safe

and they all think like the government is on their way over to take their shit. all right let's all right let's talk about this so uh we were talking before we started recording that it's like professional athletes firemen police officers like all these people who you uh most people look up to or think that like oh they're gonna like if my building's on fire like he's gonna come save me yeah they're actually the ones who like trust the system the least in many cases because they're like uh no do you see who's on the fire department like i'm not calling them for help right or like i've talked to people i can't call viddy scoppini on that he might not come right so like why like what is it that leads them to have a save to just be like

yeah all this could just go to zero tomorrow i'm not exactly sure but i do know that um firemen in general like i mean a lot of the firemen that i meet are you know skeptical of government and a lot of people that like you know bitcoin and alt coins are you know they want to control their own money and you know i mean that's everything that crypto enthusiasts believe they just believe yes kind of stronger and some of some of it's very positive and then on the other end like you can like veer on you know paranoia like yeah so some of them are like fuck that the government's watching me like the government doesn't care what you're doing in staten island yeah they're not like watching you just sit in your patio with and drink like beer coolers or

whatever or um wine cooler sorry we'll have to edit that embarrassing all right so um yeah so so every fireman usually have a safe because it's funny because when one of the our first dates i was like what would you say having a fire like i think i was just like probably like i don't know hoping like he would say something complimentary you know like if i was with you i'd say that but he was like oh my safe babe of course like he still says that i'm like what would you say he's like am i safe you know um how did you two meet and uh we were set up by a friend of mine is a comedian and she's married to a retired fireman so uh she is her husband is a lot older than her so his son is also a fireman he's like our age got it so um she was like you

should be with the fireman sweetie she's one of these women that like has a lot of confidence she's like kim on like control and like sex in the city like she would like hand a man a matchbook and just be like, think about it. So I'd, you know, like in some sort of old school way. But she didn't introduce, it's not her husband's son. She didn't, but she was like, she was like, you need to be with Fireman, sweetie. They don't give a shit.

They're like us. They say sick things all the time. And I'm like, yeah, they are like comics. Yeah. They love, yeah, they just sit around and talk shit. And we're all waiting for a call. Colin Quinn was saying that at our wedding. He's a comedian.

And he said that in that, because he did our wedding, my husband and I's wedding. So it's very similar. Yeah. They all say unspeakable things to each other. Yep. the only difference is like we're the real heroes um no i'm just kidding he's uh yeah they save people's lives and we talk shit but there are a lot of similarities and they're very adrenaline

based careers and they're not pc um so she was like you probably get along really well with the fireman you know because i'm always in situations where i date guys and i realize like i cannot be appropriate in these moments where i'm supposed to be and um you date a fireman and like yeah they're right you fit right in yeah like i come home at night he'll like close the door and like lock the top lock and it'll open and be like no jewish place not jewish you know that's the kind of thing that'll make me laugh but you can't say that you know like to a normal person yeah yeah yeah so we just say like unspeakable just say whatever to each other all the time yeah and so like i put his captain's hat on after sex and i'll be like respect the rank i'd like a little

respect can i get a salute or whatever you know he has a he has a badge i walk around and like i'm like turn up and he's like this is cvs like they just don't have the kind of gum i'm looking for But I always, like, grab his badge. And, like, if I had a badge, I would just, like, drive around looking for checkpoints. I'm like, let's use your badge all day. It's just a fun toy. This is why only the firemen get the badge is because people like you would abuse it. Because I'm an idiot.

Yeah. And he, like, actually saves people's lives. And people, like, salute him and stuff. But anyway, so, yeah, we were set up. And we met at this, like, FDNY Christmas party. And that's where I met. And he did talk to me about Bitcoin that night. That night.

So when is this? That was about three years ago. 2016. Oh, so he was in before the big, the last big retail. He was in probably like eight years ago. Yeah, eight or nine years ago he got into Bitcoin. Got it. So he was really paranoid then or really crazy at that point.

All right. And what like. I mean, he was smart, but he tells me about this stuff and I try to focus and it's hard for me to understand. I mean, thank God he does because, you know, he's he got in early and he doesn't like overreact and stuff to the markets and what everybody's saying. but he tells me about the altcoins and I cannot remember the names all just sounds so boring. Like Ethereum, that sounds like like something that would get into your water supply and like you would have to sue because you got cancer. Like, you know what I mean?

Doesn't Ethereum sound like something like Aaron Brockovich would be fighting against like this whole community ingested Ethereum and now they've all gone rancid. Like Ethereum is, I'm sorry, but that's not like an uplifting name. They all have like Ripple coin. I mean Ripple just sounds like a type of like dishwasher or something or like a water filtration system like you should have ripple you know that's the best one so the names just don't get me excited like grosso coin grosso sort of sounds like i don't even know what grosso coin is this is he tells me about all these but grosso coin is he buying grosso coin hopefully

i think he's out of grosso now i think he sold all this grosso for good reason it does sound like a german fairy tale or something well i'm just imagining him being like hey babe i bought some grosso coin you're like i don't like the name of that one get rid of that one he always tells me that like every morning he goes through his finance on his phone and all those little like charts and graphs and watches everything and then watches all these videos of these different finance dudes there's always like some guy adjusting his like camera in his car kind of like half looking at himself and i'm like why do you have to do this when you're driving like please pretend at least that you don't have to do this while you're doing an errand or something yeah

they're always like kind of emotionally unavailable but they can sort of tell you about what's happening in the finance world while they're on the road like you know they'll steal that five minutes so he watches these videos every morning and i i'm just like fascinated with these men you know like and what they're doing with the rest of their days and everything they're doing nothing yeah by the way that was take 72 before i got uploaded to youtube yeah he always kind of glances at the camera like he forgot it was on you know and i'm like please you just messed your hair up and like perfectly spritz it that way before you start your videos but they they do i mean a lot of these guys i mean i know they're smart i get very sleepy when they're talking because i cannot

keep track of it all but i know that um he's sold a lot of his alt coins and he's mainly in bitcoin and then he always tells me that every morning he's like oh rage coin not looking good so he always pretends like there's a rage coin that's just always spiraling he's like oh people are running and fast it's like everyone's selling he should be the stand-up comedian then i know he loves to trash rage coin he's like yikes it's going down there are plenty of people on twitter who probably think they own rage coin don't worry but i also noticed that like a lot of the so he watches these things every morning so they're either guys driving or it's like some guy in like a chair that's a little too big for him at his desk um and you can tell the like i want a

power move but i don't don't realize it actually it's basically like stupid yeah i got it and then he's kind of answers questions like while he's doing the video can you explain to me what that is like people are just typing into him because it seems like it's on youtube so i'm like how is he doing that they so i've seen people do like uh like a twitter live type thing and then they take the twitter video and upload it uh or the uh the complete like douchebag move is uh i will be going live at uh 4 p.m on friday please send in your questions and i will you know pick them and then then they pull up their piece of paper as if like 100 questions came in and they had their mom their sister and their brother all write the questions yeah and they're like uh a reader from you know

wherever said you know like dude it's a softball question like obviously obviously you it's so funny that question literally allows you to now promote whatever dumb thing you're promoting because the the best part about a lot of these videos you're talking about are those people are almost never investors and they all have like nicknames it's like the squeak or something it all sounds like a character on like saved by the bell or something or a character a wannabe mobster who forgot to be tough yeah i'll be like jams will be on the end and i'm like this really isn't about jamming it's about finance let's stop our foolishness yeah the part that i like is that they're always selling you something that is not their investment track record yeah right they're

selling you like some crazy buy my 99 online course to become like a leader and you're like wait what hey we're talking about stocks how do we get to the leadership online course that's every one of the books my husband like reads it's all just like how to be a leader like how to get to the highest mountain i'm always like relax like all my books are just like second to last like that works for me these are just these are all just about like power and control and like how to kill every one of my potential opponents it leaves them in the dust i'm like settle the fuck down like have some jaeger it's a long day so when when he's talking about crypto what's your perspective on crypto specifically so forget the videos of like just finance in general

like you're on twitter i've seen you tweet a couple of times about or crypto people tweet at you like does it just like everyone is insane and part of this like cult of like not cool kids or like i mean it does seem like what i understand about it is that it's it's a way that you know you can kind of control your own money and that and that the banks don't have so much control and it takes some control away from you know uh big government is that a good explanation yeah that's perfect like so yeah so just repeat that a couple of times understand it as which seems like a very positive concept to me so it does seem like it's going it's like a very positive trend and it sort of like feels like the future to me but i also um it just takes so much energy for me it takes so

much energy for me to understand it i mean like thank god he does but i mean i you know he's tried to tell me it so many times but i just i like he's tried to explain what bullish was to me like he's talking about the market being bullish and all the words are like kind of like sexual and like very like masculine i've never thought about that like like the vernacular that is around finance if you don't know the words you're probably like what the fuck are these people talking about yeah i'm like wait is that bad when someone's bullish is like not bullish market like that's good you know so uh uh and he talks to me about like what an ambitious market is or what this but i'm like but what if i mean my questions and you could tell me if i'm like

but what if you guys are all just like wrong these are all just different perceptions of a graph like what if it's all nonsense and the graph is just going to do whatever the graph does and that is what it does yeah and he's like oh yeah it's that too and i'm like then why why like it's kind of fascinating to me like there's these theories of different ways to interpret something but to me it's like maybe it's my own impatience but like i want an answer so you're gonna love this uh the beginning of the year i think it's the new york times or washington i forget they go to the you know air quotes experts and they ask them uh they survey them and they say what do you think i think it's uh what do you think by the end of the year or like the low point of the bond yields are so

basically what the interest rate on this stuff is and uh there's a chart that just went viral on the internet recently where pretty much everyone was like it's going to stay flat to like aggressively go up right so like there's kind of rational people like oh it's about where it is now is where it'll stay and then there was like one guy who was like it was gonna like three acts right yeah and so this beginning of the year this year it has just it literally looks like it just fell off a cliff not one person said that it was going to go down so everyone said it's going to be flat to up and they asked you know 30 experts or something and it's part of it's just like these people are gambling right you can say all you want about managing risk and you're intelligent

like all this stuff and everything and to me it uh it's funny because um those are the same people who they're making predictions about things where it's like two percent of their portfolio right But, like, that's the other game in finance is, like, oh, you need to build a diversified portfolio. And the diversified portfolio means, like, I don't actually know what's going to happen across any of these things. So I'm just going to put a little money in each one and hope one of them goes up more than all the other ones go down. And then, like, then take the victory lap on the internet. Right? It's like if you make money, then you can go and yell and scream about how smart you are.

But you'll notice that many of the people who make money in one year, the next couple of years, they don't do so hot. So it's very cyclical. which to your point is uh look for the most part most people don't need to know that much just kind of do the things that you know are good financial like etiquette right like i don't know just buy things that hold them for a long time market keeps going up and to the right you know if you hold for long enough so do that and that would be considered conservative uh that thought is controversial uh but that would be a conservative way so like i think most people would argue that uh for an everyday american the best things to do right and this is not financial advice but

is things like look every time you get a paycheck wait why do you guys always have to say that because every one of the videos are like this is not i'm not like and they're just like they all start with like i'm a wild moron you should not listen to me um i have no information do whatever you're gonna do like we're all fucked and then they go on to give you like a very what i could tell is i mean very knowledgeable and so uh remember how remember how you were talking about the shows and you send in the show and then like the legal department's like ah you can't say that oh that brand's not cool with that whatever uh in finance there's compliance departments and the compliance department's like here's the law you can't say this you can't say that you

can't say this and so uh basically because uh people don't just think that we're funny they actually give us money you you have to follow the rules that's why you have to go like full disclosure too about your own portfolio like just so you know like i like this stock like you know i own it ethereum or whatever even though it's poisoning our water supply exactly and then so they have to say i have this and i have that but here's what i've done but it's not what you should do well well so here so you'll love this in the stock market you have to do a lot of that stuff because there are securities so uh if somebody goes on like jim cramer is probably the the most famous one where jim cramer's the guy that like seems kind of manic yeah he yells and screams

and he punches buttons and it's like going crazy all the time. He's like the Bobby Knight of like finance, yeah. That's a good reference. Bobby Knight is the Indiana basketball coach who threw a chair across the court. That's a really weird one. No, but he is. He kind of goes off the deep end sometimes.

But he's funny, right? And so people watch whatever. He would have to say like, if he's like, hey, you should buy this. Like he'll either verbally say it or like at the end they'll scroll and they'll be like, you know, hey, Jim Cramer owns these stocks, whatever.

Because they're securities. In crypto so far, many of the things have not been deemed securities yet so it's a little bit more wild west where like i've literally seen people i know who i know what they own go on television and they're like this is a great bible and you're like ah okay we're getting into some some gray area so like that's what's all going to get figured out but in the traditional finance world it is figured out there are a lot of rules there's not as many here which allows for you know rage coin to to go wild Right. Yeah. Rage coin. I'd like to say I think it's on the up right now. It's very bullish.

So I'm going to give you one tip that if you're looking for new material, I figured out is nobody likes the banks. So you were saying earlier about how it takes power from the banks. The banks are some of the least trusted and least liked brands in America. So you do surveys every year. And I jokingly one time tweeted long Bitcoin short the bankers. and it like took on a life of its own now where people like literally type it to me all day long they're like short the bankers short the bankers and it's this whole like like oh the bankers suck right and like who's a banker like nobody who's a banker thinks they're a banker right they're all like i'm an investment professional or they've got some other like stupid acronym that they want to

use for themselves uh but i'm shocked at like how much people hate the banks and hate the bankers and it's because somebody's messing with their money right so like firemen don't trust government or don't trust whatever like i think pretty much every american is like ah i don't trust those people like they cause the financial crisis right or like there's always something that they tie it to um and so i think that's part of the crypto like crazy you know enthusiasm is it's the alternative to that world that everyone doesn't trust it's interesting because because like i i can't tell if it's associated like if most people associate crypto more with the right or the left because like people like politically warren politically because like people like elizabeth

Warren would also be saying that, you know, the banks have too much power and the banks have too much control, you know, but then you also have people that are, you know, into small government who would say the same thing. So it's kind of interesting. I guess there's a little bit on both sides. So definitely what started more like libertarian crowd grabbed hold, right? Like this whole, you know, the free state up in, I think, New Hampshire or Vermont and like all these people who are just like, oh, sweet, there's a currency that's outside the

government's control, like small government, all that kind of stuff. I think now what we're seeing is more and more people are just like, you governments are doing crazy stuff. Like, I don't know, you probably don't pay as much attention to the crazy shit that governments do in the finance world. But Italy just came out and they're like, they're in a really bad economic situation. And they literally, one of the leaders goes, so we're thinking about just taxing all of the cash and valuables and safety deposit boxes. Because the bank holds it, right? And the bank's backed by the government. And so it's easy for them to, you know, it's not like, hey, come turn in.

your cash and we're going to tax you just we're going to go see the deposit box and just tax it and of course they always do it in the like we're here to save you and protect you right so it's like you know all this hidden money and then there's reports come out they're like yeah we think there's billions of euros worth of hidden money in safety deposit boxes it's like well first of all how hidden is it's a safety deposit box right so would you say that there are people on both people that are libertarians and people that aren't at all libertarian that are kind of opposed the libertarian mindset they're both into it would you say or do you think it's more I think so. So my experience is it's like every political spectrum, you know, every part of the political spectrum sees value in it.

And a lot of it, too, I think is there's like this like surveillance state, like the anti-surveillance state. Right. So in Hong Kong recently, there's these protests. Everyone's going crazy over this extradition law. So, you know, hey, China's now going to be able to take you out of Hong Kong, bring you to China and try you. Doesn't sound cool. Right. So everyone in Hong Kong is like, hey, hundreds of thousands of people are going to go into the street and protest. But in America, if we were like, hey, there's a protest on Broadway. You could take an Uber.

You could walk. You could take the subway. We wouldn't think about how you get there. But these pictures surfaced recently of really, really long lines at their subway. But there's usually not lines at the subway because they all have everything on their phone, right? It's like kind of cashless society type stuff. But the reason why there's long lines is because everyone is taking cash and buying a one-way train ticket in cash so that the government can't go get the data later and realize who took the train to the protest. Right, right.

In America, we would never think about like – that would be like the federal government coming and being like, let me see your subway card. Yeah. You use your subway card on this stop, and obviously the train is going in this direction. You went to the protest. We would never think of that, right? But all the crypto enthusiasts are like, oh, wow, something like a Bitcoin or a cryptocurrency could have a lot of advantages to privacy where these people don't have to wait in line for cash to buy this stuff, but they could still have the privacy and use a digital currency outside the government's control, blah, blah, blah, whatever. So, like, that's not really a political type thing. I don't care that much, like, when people, like, you know, when your phone gives you, like, suggestion ads or whatever.

To me, it's just, like, a helpful reminder. I'm like, oh, yeah, those were the sneakers I meant to buy earlier this week, you know? but it's funny how to one person's mind they're like fuck this shit like i appreciate being tracked a little because i can get gentle reminders but i also appreciate like people taking something off my shirt like i like to be cleaned throughout the day like you know pick a piece of lint off me remind me what i was doing before like i don't care that much you know but i also understand why people don't want to be like watched but um i don't really care like i'm like oh you can listen yeah like go ahead like look what i look at like and and help me make

some decisions here because otherwise i'll just like aimlessly yeah so the difference i think right so like i tend to agree on like advertising in general uh people hate ads until they like what the ad shows them like it's all about like if the ads suck then people are like i fucking hate these ads but if it's a good ad they're like oh that was a great piece of content yeah like it was still an ad right it's just whether you like it or not so i think that's one piece but um i think in these cases with like the surveillance state it's less about like advertising and it's more of like you would care if you were tracked if then they're like oh you're gonna go to jail now like oh okay hey now i'm not cool with the tracking stuff right yes so i think it's also

just like the ramifications and how people are going to use the data um i think because i'm not doing like highly important things on my computer like i really don't care yeah the only thing i wouldn't want is you know how like i see you have your your camera covered on your screen yeah like yeah somebody told me about that once and i'm like you know there was that like tape that got who was it that it was a news a sports person erin um that was like somebody was watching her in her hotel yeah yeah because i feel like for me it would never even be like it wouldn't be like me like gently getting out of a nightgown or something like that which is obviously traumatizing and intrusive but i just feel like i wouldn't want to take it out because i like

wouldn't be a hot video i'd just be like laying on my stomach like feeding at a hotel like eating macaroni and cheese with like you know like a coffee filter or something you know like i wouldn't really for me personally like comedian plays and frank and then video released of eating mac and cheese naked in a hotel room yeah because for me i'm like yeah like if it was like i mean for her it was like intrusive and traumatizing but for me i'm like the reason that i wouldn't want a video like that of me to like get out is because it wouldn't be like a hot bit it wouldn't be like a hot stolen moment of mine like yeah it would just be like me eating like raisinets at like three in the afternoon you know like just all you would see is like a woman that should be at the

gym and then it's just like laying there like feeding or something with like a leg hanging off you know so that's my that's basically the uh the anti-bitcoiners that's actually the exact way they think about it like i don't care if people can you know track my transactions i'm not buying anything important no but i mean i i definitely understand for sure you don't want people why i'm just saying in my own personal life like i feel like i'm not doing anything important enough to track but i understand for people that are doing important stuff you know you can't have the government all up in your shit you know for me i don't want to be watched like you know when i'm at howard johnson's um but besides that i'm like go ahead all right two last questions for

you before we wrap up uh one what's next for you so you got all these specials out there like what what's the next step do you start going on like a tour well i'm working on a pilot right now okay um so that's a scripted pilot about about my life right now okay is it funny yeah i mean it's about me as a comic and you know um my husband's in um fdny and so he's kind of like he'll be a chief soon so it's like half of my life is kind of like being a formal fire wife and the other one is like you know doing podcasts like this and do they all know like do all the firemen know that you're a comedian and then like when you show up they give you shit some of them do but it's kind of satisfying because he jumps around and goes to different houses right now so

when you're a fireman um and you get promoted like he's a captain you don't necessarily have a firehouse that needs a captain so you're what's called a bouncing captain so one he's working the third division but one day he might be on 77th and amsterdam the next night he's in another firehouse got it got it got it so the nice thing about that is that um he doesn't have like one home firehouse and he becomes a chief he probably he might not even for a while so when i go by the firehouse sometimes they don't none of them know me which is fun because then i can like you know just be an ass like they're not expecting it they'll be kind of nervous you know like they don't call him by his first name and you come into like you know and so i'll just like get on

the microphone and be like there's a strange jew in the lobby can captain brennan please come down and address the city and they're all just like what the hell is happening where the guys like to stand outside the firehouse and they all have like like doggy treats in case like a cute girl comes by so they can feed a dog you know and so he's the boss so he's like upstairs right so the young firemen stand out there so like um on halloween i kind of like they all think they're slick by the way every guy and girl in new york knows what they're doing i know and like guys are just like whatever and then girls like it if they compliment them but if they walk by and they don't say anything that i think girls get offended oh yeah definitely i mean i would always say something

for me any uniform works i don't care if it's like a ups uniform i'm vaguely aroused yeah like anybody that has on like shorts and a name tag i'm listening but uh so i was walking by this this firehouse and so that he was working at and then uh so yeah they do the thing where you walk a group of men gets quiet they check to see if you have an ass if you do have an ass they tip their friend off it's a quick conversation and just even eye contact sometimes like yes there's an ass to be reviewed you should go ahead and look or not even worth looking and i know that these steps that you go through when you're a woman about to walk by so i like to like slow down right when they're about to do that because you know they don't obviously know that i'm as

wife so or their boss's wife or whatever so i'll like slow down and let them do their quick eye contact ask communication or whatever and then i'll just like it was halloween and i just kind of like circled back and i was like it's really scary out there boys do you think i could come inside and take cover for a little while i was like i don't feel safe there's just too much douchery out there tonight yeah and they were like oh yeah sure uh yeah come here we'll get you a snack in the kitchen and then you walk in and they're like actually i'm here to see captain bread and they all just kind of like get very straight and yeah so it's like very satisfying that they don't know who i am and then when they find out i'm a comedian they realize that they

don't have to be as like careful as they thought yeah yeah one of my favorite moves is uh if i'm walking down the street with my girlfriend and like you just know the scumbags right like you see them on the road and they're usually posted up on a wall you've seen them literally they got like whiplash because they just have turned their head so many times when girls walk by i'll wait it's always about six steps and then i'll turn around and as i'm still walking i'll turn and just look dead square in the eyes with them and i'm just like you fucking you know and she hates when i do it right she's like yeah now i feel uncomfortable like please stop doing this and i'm like look i'm not gonna say anything but just like it's just like i know that you know now

that i know what you're doing so like just get it over with let's go uh which i always stop and i'm like thank you for your service boys you know just like bite my knuckle or something yeah just flash like a tiny whisper of tittage and just be like thanks for your service um all right what uh what is the funniest story you have about your husband and bitcoin i'm trying to think about an actual story here um like just like the most ridiculous moment where you literally like what the hell is this nonsense well i didn't realize okay i know this is me and everybody else but i didn't understand that like he was collecting something invisible you know so so when i did ask him what he would save in a fire and he said like i was saying before he was

like am i safe and i'm like why because that's where your bitcoin is he's like no there is no bitcoin and i'm like where is it and so he was explaining you had to like figure it out yeah and then he told me that long story about the asian man that some people don't know if he really exists and i'm expecting you to finish the sentence for me so he may not be she may not be they may not be asian do you has he explained the idea um of a pseudonymity of a pseudonymous identity oh and all right ready okay so bitcoin is quote-unquote not tangible right it's right in the cloud oh i always just pictured this like yeah fun-loving japanese businessman that isn't getting the credit he deserves so the the name used is satoshi nakamoto but uh people don't

know who that is and so there's a million rumors about it could be everyone from uh there's this australian guy who continues to claim he is but no one believes him and just thinks he's a complete fraud uh to there's a guy who's locked up in jail because he was a really smart cryptographic programmer who then became a member of the mafia and now is in jail uh some people just think it's like a like a group of like smart like hip texters that came up with this idea itself because they thought that people would find it engaging and it would be like a good conversation topic you know the two that i hear the most off well three that i hear the most often so one is uh it's the government right and just like the government came up with some elaborate story we're all idiots we

all believe it and they're just watching us do everything um two is that uh it is a uh one individual who just did it and left no one knows who it is uh and then a third one is uh it's a group of really smart cryptographers who may some of them may have worked at the government some of them may not have but just like they got together they created this thing they gave it to the world and then they just kind of dispersed and do you think that they want this idea is there a theory that they want this idea to be out there this this this potential like debatable fun-loving side maze to all of this because it because it creates like traction and stories and theories and so i you know so two things one uh my personal view is like i actually don't want to know who it

is right because i think there's a lot of power to the not being known uh i hope um and again this is just me being completely biased and and uh either really smart or really dumb is that that's why they don't know who it is right it's like somebody basically created it whether it's an individual or group kind of put it out in the world and they're like oh there's a lot of power for nobody knowing who it is right because you can imagine like uh you know you watch these like political hearings right where literally there's a congressman recently who was like we should ban this like it's gonna take down america right like he's like you know and you're just like dude you you get the potential ramifications like he couldn't explain it right and so they're literally

we will talk to people and they're like so like where's satoshi at you're like you don't even know what that is right but like you can imagine if like bitcoin became really really popular that they're like oh we're gonna subpoena satoshi to come in here and like talk and then the person our group is like uh we have no control right and they're like no no just like shut it off like like you have to shut it off no like we can't shut it like you know you can just imagine this like ridiculous like hearing and so like i always think like somebody probably was like i'm not gonna engage in that right like here's this thing i'm out um but there's a lot of power to it too right because then if like let's say your husband lost a bunch of money in bitcoin you can't be like

oh there's satoshi like that idiot right it's just like there's no one to blame there's no one to blame yeah it's just an algorithm my mom was like what should we get pete for his birthday i think we should get him a gift certificate to that darn bitcoin he's always rambling about and she was like i tried to ask at the mall but they don't nobody said there was a place you could get it and i asked at the bank and they said no either so so she they were trying to find like a like a bitcoin gift certificate is there a thing uh i don't know there's definitely not gift certificates but there are atms like there's now atms where you can like go and put yeah you know your unsound fiat money in and get a bitcoin out but like not a physical one they like put just a piece of paper

that says you own something uh so i've never used one i actually don't know if they give you a receipt or not like a paper receipt but the idea of buying a digital currency and getting a paper receipt is pretty funny yeah um but i i think that they can either send the bitcoin to your To your bank. To your digital wallet. To your digital wallet, right. Exactly, or you could put it on like a treasure, kind of like a USB stick, and then you walk around with it.

And the thing with me is I lose everything. Yeah, you'd be bad at Bitcoin. I feel like I'd be bad, yeah, because I lose everything. I lose keys. I lose debit cards like once a month. I'm just shedding debit cards. Yeah, I'm not responsible in that way. I'll lose his keys, and there's like one key on him.

He's like, you know this is the universal one for the elevators or something. It's some sort of universal important fireman elevator key, And I'm just like, oh, well, let's try it. Does he ever, like, get on the elevator and just use the key to, like, override the elevator? No, I always wanted to do that stuff. Like, we get on the train. Let's go to 52nd floor. Yeah.

There's some sort of fireman elevator key. And I'm like, make it happen. And then he can also, he doesn't have to, he can open the subway doors, too. But he doesn't ever do it when he's not working. Yeah. It's very impressive and ethical. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm like, use it. Yeah. It's like with the badge. I'm like, tin him. Yeah. And some of his friends will tin anybody, you know? Like, his buddy that comes up with it. Wait, what do they do?

TINM is like use your badge. TINM? You call it like TINM when you show your badge. Oh, okay. You know? Oh, like T-I-N space E-M, like TINM. Yeah, like TINM, you know, like his buddy that comes over to buy Bitcoin. Wait, do they have like a private fireman Bitcoin club?

I mean, he just comes by the house and then it's like always like. They're talking about Bitcoin. Yeah. I just know it's somebody there to buy Bitcoin if he's in like kind of like a yellow wife beater. And he's screaming out the window like, Peter, you know, and then he'll come in. He came over this one front of his like right before the wedding. And we wanted a pinata in our wedding because I just thought it would be hilarious, you know. And he's like, it better be Hillary Clinton's face.

Now, where's my coin? You know, so it's always like they come over. They're still angry at Hillary, even though like she's not really in the picture anymore. They'll talk a little shit about Hillary. And then they're always very polite, too. How are you? How's your mother, sweetheart? You know, what can I do?

for you it's like a mixture of like a complete gentleman but then also like there's like a very like big yellow stain on him yeah yeah you look lovely how you doing how's your mother i hope she's well you know it's like the mob right like they'll literally kill people but never the women and children but never the ladies god forbid we're gentlemen but by the way i'll shoot you in the back of the head when you get in the car i mean it's kind of hot yeah they're all pretty like strong and they all have each other's backs and they just they're always yelling about bitcoin all the time but uh yeah they'll come over and just ask for some and then i'm always trying to understand like how what if it goes like up or down do you just decide on the price that you

this is such a dumb question you should definitely edit it out but because everybody already knows all this but you just decide on the price you sell it at or whatever yeah it's like uh basically about like it's like if you bought a car right let's say you bought a car at ten thousand dollars and then all of a sudden somebody's like hey i'll pay you fifteen thousand for you like okay here take my car i gotta go buy another ten thousand dollar one right uh or you could buy the car ten thousand and then you're like i don't want this anymore and you go and you're looking like shit people only pay me seven thousand for it do i want to do that right and you kind of think about well could it be worth more in the future and whatever the difference is you're not meeting some random

dude in like a street in brooklyn to sell your shitty car you're going on the internet and there's just an exchange well and the reason why that they go in person is because they all like to do everything in cash firemen love cash oh they don't want to drop off some cash put in a safe got it got it got it shake on it they're like i love you i love you fuck the government how's your mother hillary fucking hillary yeah um so a bunch of guys i know uh from the military are very similar in a lot of their beliefs and uh and the one thing that i've told them a million times uh the most surreal thing that has happened in politics to me over the you know pretty much my lifetime is during the 2000 and i think it was uh 16 uh republican convention um i don't even think

donald trump was on stage i think it was somebody else was on stage and the crowd was chanting lock her up and i remember thinking like do we live in a third world country where like literally one political candidate is encouraging locking up another and like forget your political beliefs for a second right like forget that it's even the u.s and they don't even know what for like yeah somebody like grabbed the mic at the end of my wedding and it was like lock her up and i'm like you definitely have no idea like what offense you even think that she should be jailed for for the love at your wedding somebody said that yes i knew that a fireman was going to grab like the mic and scream something like that it's confusing because like i mean they they definitely don't

obviously often know also what they like her jailed for it they're just like yeah lock her up You know, like, as soon as they get drunk, for some reason, they bond that way. It's always very much. It's a joke. Yeah, well. They believe it, but it's like a. You like her locked up. I'm not sure that they could think of, like, a rational reason, but, you know.

I mean, some of the things that they'll tell him at the fire department, I'm like, that's not true. Like, whatever your actual feeling is, you know, like, right or left. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Like. Like, there's actually a fact, and, like, you're saying the opposite. There's facts. We have to, like, there has to be some level of just, like, things we can, some collective reality here.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He'll come home and he'll be like, Scarpini says they're cooking babies at Planned Parenthood. They're not cooking babies, all right? Be pro-choice. Be pro-life. I can respect whatever. But just no one's cooking a baby. That's not something that Planned Parenthood is doing.

And I don't care what Scarpini, what pamphlet he handed you at the firehouse. You'll love this. So I love my mother to death. She will read something on the internet, and part of it is lack of information. Some of it is lack of trying. some of it is like just getting older and like probably forgetting half the facts and then somehow between her reading it on the internet and her repeating it to me by the end i'm like there's no way that that is possibly true and i'll go look and it's like basically the exact

opposite times 10 all right and i'm like how did you get to this like what did she say just like stupid stuff like everything from uh i'm trying to think of like the last time she said something crazy but it'll be like oh here's a great one um when the whole like catholic priest thing was going on right and all the whole scandal and it's always scandals right it can't possibly be just like oh i heard the supermarket has a sale right like it's got to be like the most like salacious like news thing right yes and uh and literally you would have thought that like every catholic priest in the entire world was molesting every child who walked into the church like i mean the whole thing and she was like and she was upset she wasn't trying to like fan the flame she was like

oh my god like like i i was next expecting her to be like did you get molested by a catholic priest when we used to go to church right and i was like mom i think that like it's a problem right and like there's this whole issue but i don't think it's every priest right and because she started rattling off like priests that we knew from childhood and i was like oh my god and i go and i look and i had to like sit her down and show her the information and be like okay so like the takeaway from this is and to me it's just like that's actually like most of america right it is like they just they read a headline and next thing you know like it's like the game of telephone you play in school by the end of the telephone you're like this is you're actually we started out

talking about politics now you're saying like an alien's running for president how did how did we get there i know it is true and they hear one small thing and then it gets bigger and bigger and it becomes more and more mangled until you're deliberate and i'm like no scarpini is wrong i can tell you that much i'm now imagining every fireman in new york driving to a fire yelling out the window lock her up lock her up too funny but but you know i do feel like uh it's good to you know i do think that whatever side of the aisle you're on it does seem to be a positive thing you know to have control of your own um you know money and and financial destiny in a way so i mean i can i can get behind it you know whether you're like right left whatever i mean everybody

wants to feel like they have a little more control over what happens to them when they're old and what they set aside for themselves so you're you're a spokesperson for uh bitcoin already you don't even realize it rage coin too fuck the haters rage coin is gonna be very bullish that's how we're gonna that's how that's how we're gonna know if people made it through all the vulgar aspects of the podcast is if they hear rage coin and then they start tweeting at you or i about rage definitely edit out like a couple things i'm thinking of already no awesome all right guys uh rachel i appreciate you doing this so much a ton of fun and uh i'm sure your husband will uh we'll have a conversation after he hears about 50 of the things that you accused him of

but uh but no i really appreciate you doing it and we'll have to do it again in the future thank you so much hey everyone pop here if you like this episode of off the chain and want to help us take crypto to the top of the apple spotify and other podcast charts please do us a favor and rate review and subscribe to review simply go to the off the chain home page scroll down until you see the five blank stars. Taking 15 seconds to fill those stars in and leave a quick review goes a long way in helping us take the entire crypto ecosystem to the top of the charts. I appreciate you listening and see you next time on Off The Chain. Thank you.