The Prepper Broadcasting Network - 2026 MoF Summer Camp
Episode Date: June 15, 2026Every year, the Minions descend upon some hapless village or berg to drink, make merry, share fellowship, and most importantly unplug. 15 campers joined us in Kentucky for a few days of fun and sight ...seeing, along with recording a very raw podcast episode on the Rabalais front porch.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/prepper-broadcasting-network--3295097/support.Support PBN and become a MEMBER of the PBN FAMILY! Free courses, Members only videos, reviews, and podcast! The Prepper's Medical Handbook Build Your Medical Cache – Welcome PBN FamilyJoin the Prepper Broadcasting Network for expert insights on #Survival, #Prepping, #SelfReliance, #OffGridLiving, #Homesteading, #Homestead building, #SelfSufficiency, #Permaculture, #OffGrid solutions, and #SHTF preparedness. With diverse hosts and shows, get practical tips to thrive independently – subscribe now!Newsletter – Welcome PBN FamilyGet Your Free Copy of 50 MUST READ BOOKS TO SURVIVE DOOMSDAYSupport PBN with a Donation
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Matterfax podcast at the campground.
No roll in, no admin work.
Absolutely not.
This is the one time I don't do admin work where I don't get frustrated Nick for getting me off topic.
I intentionally try to delay him at least five to seven minutes because he gets a little irritated and he gets more creative.
That's a good idea.
You know, it works out pretty good.
Sometimes I get the nastiest looks, though.
If you're not watching the video, sometimes he's like, I swear to God, I'm good.
well no but the worst part is that that one time that we got literally all the way to the end of the show
we did and i was like damn it i got him to an hour and 25 before he remembered to do the admin work
it's turned into a thing for him like how far can i stretch this out just a totally screw fill
and it really doesn't take that much sidetracking which is the beautiful part see him and me
you've probably noticed from the podcast oh we've got brian here with us
Oh yeah.
Hello.
And we've got Flab Andrew.
He's lost a lot of weight.
It's going really good.
He did. He went to the range with everybody.
He checked out the porta potty.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Shitter's full.
That will be probably on Instagram later this week.
Oh, Gillian has already started like cleaning up and printing up all the pictures and everything.
So that I have a folder full of stuff that's approved for social media.
Oh, fantastic.
it. Excellent. So that means you took all the felonies out.
Well, no, it was more the fact that like, well, yeah, it's a spousal felony when you put a
when you put a picture on social media that doesn't portray her in her best possible light.
That is a spousal felony.
I've learned that over the years that my definition of beauty is not hers because I take a picture.
I'm like, honey, you look beautiful. I'm fat. I'm ugly. My butt's enormous.
It's like, okay, you take the pictures of yourself and let me know what looks okay.
They just need to believe us, and then it'd be fine.
You know what, bud.
Exactly.
Wait, and that's fine.
We can be biased in favor of our wives.
Would you rather us be biased in favor of other women?
But hold on.
Try me.
That's what I thought.
How am I biased, because I look at you more than you look at you.
Also accurate.
Because you picked me.
And?
So are you saying that I have, so are you saying that I have a thing
for a dog, ugly women?
I mean, what are you trying to...
Yeah, are you insulting Phil's taste in women?
I mean, are we going to pull back into the exes?
Then, yeah, probably.
My exes were nowhere near as bad as yours.
That's true.
You know?
That's true.
So, more than once, Rachel has said
that you and I are functionally the same person
from a different geography.
Gillian said about the same thing.
And her ex's ex,
also, my dad.
I don't know.
High school
questionable decision making, I would say.
Pretty much all of us
questionable decision making in high school,
but I'm just going to leave it there
because she's too far away from the mic to defend herself.
But not far enough the way to throw things.
Oh no, she's definitely within throwing things, right?
Do you want to throw things?
I don't have anything to throw.
For the moment.
I can hand her things, though.
There you go.
That works.
So this is the 2026. Matter of fact, summer camp.
This is what, for those who have not managed to make it out to one of these, this is the thing that grew out of the realization that like we were going to Preper Camp year after year.
And the group we were going to meet, we weren't really going to Preper Camp anymore.
We were just going to hang out with our friends.
So Gilling and I and Andrew had this idea years ago, like, why don't we take the thing we love the most about that?
The sitting around the campfire, the sharing stories, the sharing booze, the showing off.
toys to goofing off. We did
goof on the fires though, but it
has been like 90 degrees and
100% humidity.
So, we screwed up the
fires this time. Fall camping is better
for a fire. It is. Or
early spring. Oh, nice early spring
bonfire. But it was still
everything I've... Stella, please don't
knock over my tripod.
If the video suddenly
goes like... Upside down.
Come here. Okay.
We got away without it.
Dassive baby. Normally I have to worry about drunks tripping over the tripod. This time it's just a pupper.
Well, you know, there's good smells under that tripod, you see.
Yes.
She's pretty good, except with the lead.
Last night in the middle of the thunderstorm, or was it this morning?
This morning.
This morning in the middle of the thunderstorm, it is downpouring cats and dogs.
This dog managed to wind herself around three patio chairs, a table, and the wellhead.
That's...
That's...
Like a good god dog.
Yeah.
That is delicious.
Good.
That was delicious.
But like I was saying, the thing we love the most about doing this was the sharing the fellowship
and the thing that we wanted to bring into this kind of event was make it something that
was like not structured, not a prepper camp, something that had a nice low barrier to entry
where you could actually have a fighting chance of smooth talking to your spouse and kids
and coming to meeting your weird friends from the internet.
Except for my wife.
Except we'll get her.
We'll keep working on.
We'll get her.
there. She'll come, she'll have fun,
she'll hang out with the ladies, we'll go to the range and be a great time.
I tried.
Maybe next time.
Maybe next time.
So this year is at Penny Royal House Forest State Park in Kentucky.
Beautiful park.
I have to admit, like, last year I thought Michigan was going to be real hard to top.
This has been a lot of fun.
Okay.
To be fair, though, the joists, the floor joists in these cabins
significantly more structurally sound.
The windows are very well sealed.
That's true. We don't have random critters coming in through the windows.
Those cabins in Michigan, I know you weren't there, but buddy, you ever see like a 1940s fishing cabin that's really only been updated by paint?
That was it. That was it right there.
1940s fishing cabin. On ours, I think we had the smallest one that they could rent. And we did that on purpose.
We did that on purpose because it's just the two of us and the dog.
Fair enough. It was, gosh. How many square feet do you figure that was?
It was like a dorm room.
It was.
600, 700 square feet.
It couldn't have been 600 square feet.
It was probably 500 square feet plus maybe a 40 square foot bathroom.
So maybe six-fitt.
Oh, yeah.
The tiniest freaking showers I've ever been in my entire life.
Dude, like 18 by 18 with a radial shower curtain going around the outside.
No matter where I stood, shoulders hit all three walls.
Yep.
Amazing.
I did not know they sold them that small.
I had the option of either my chest touching one wall or my butt touching the other.
And the shower curtain was wrapped around me the whole time.
Oh, 100%.
I mean, beautiful scenery.
McAnon Island, if you've never been.
McAnon Island, amazing.
Would go back.
In fact, me and my wife are talking about going back at some point.
She's talking about one, do that for our 20th anniversary.
That's coming up in two years.
Are you going to do it in the winter and fly in?
Negative.
No, we were talking about.
Doing the thing where we could actually like exist.
Oh, come on now.
You can exist in a McAnall winter.
It's only like, and I think the average temperature is 11.
Nick, based on the descriptions you've given me of how much it snows around you, I already think you're psychotic.
Okay.
To be fair, we get some, yes, we get some years where every single week we get six to nine inches of snow.
But there's some years, we only get like three blizzards.
Yes, but by comparison, nine inches of snow set records.
where I live. Records since recorded history.
It has never snowed nine inches at my house ever, except for this past year.
To be fair, you're relying on 150 years of French records before real record keeping took off.
Okay, so I will give you, Stella, please don't know my tripod.
Wait on the tripod, baby girl. Come here.
Oh, he did hit it.
Oh, a tiny dog. It's still where it needs to be, though.
I apologize. To be fair, French history-ish French carpentry.
Very, very good.
French carpentry good.
Which I think Chris is sold on the French carpentry t-shirt.
I'm telling you, we need a French carpentry t-shirt,
and then we need a Granby Community College welding program, 18 months to completion.
Sure.
If you know, you know.
I like it.
What do you think, Brian?
Both good ideas.
I'm thinking French carpentry enthusiast on the front and the guillotine on the back.
So people don't really realize the joke until you're walking away.
Right.
It's a solid idea.
That'll really sell it at the hardware store.
I mean,
but you're going to get a lot of questions about what is French carpentry.
A thousand percent, and that's the idea.
And when they see the back of the shirt,
this question should largely be answered.
It will explain itself.
Should it be carpentry or lumberjack?
Carpentry.
Definitely carpentry.
All right.
There's a little bit of precision what needed there.
Just a little bit.
I mean, guillotines are pretty precise.
I mean, they are, and they aren't.
I mean, you're really looking at,
now, from the recreations I've seen,
you're really looking at just split timber frame.
maybe a little bit of side axe work to square everything up.
And then you're just dropping a blade vertically.
I mean, it's not rocket surgery.
It's terribly complicated.
I mean, I built more complex things in my basement.
That's Stacy that just pulled around.
Oh, good.
We'll have to harass her into joining the show.
This is very important.
Harassment enforcing guests onto the summer podcast is a tradition.
last year it was Kyle and
what was his wife
They're married now
Victoria Victoria
I kept claiming they were married
At the time of recording
They were
They were engaged
I had definitely had too much to drink
Which matter of fact
They asked me at summer camp
If I would roast and grind all the coffee
Oh yeah that's right
So they did
They did a bunch of like
Little grab bags for the gifts
For the guests and everything
Okay
So each one I roasted
roasted myself, ground doll packaged up, and every one of them was enough for four cups of coffee.
That's perfect.
Yeah, they tried to pay me for it, and I was like, no, wedding present.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, no, 100% not.
I mean, I get it, though.
Yeah, they're being polite, right, but like, okay.
No, you two were cool.
Also, they really, really threw it out of the park that year with the sourdough.
They brought, like, what, four loaves?
Like six.
Oh, and they were all different flavors.
Oh, yes.
Chocolate, jalapeno cheddar.
There was a regular one.
What was the last one?
Chocolate, jalapeno cheddar, regular.
What was the other one?
It was a fruit, wasn't it?
Oh, you're right.
Like a cherry?
Yes.
Man, that was...
That was really good.
The dog did not like the jalapeno cheddar.
She liked everything else.
Girl, you have met Stacey before.
No, it's Piper.
Oh.
You love Piper.
But Piper didn't give her snacks earlier,
so they might reset their relationship.
That's right.
You know, it took me six months to buy that dog's love with cheddar cheese.
I've had a cat for four years.
It still doesn't like me.
Well, I mean, it's a cat.
Yeah, it's the wife's cat.
Well, you know.
So, speaking of your wife, did coffee for Kyle and Victoria's.
Me and my wife did popcorn, and we did a pun.
Thank you for popping by on the outside of the little popcorn.
Adorable.
Nice.
Because, like, I'm not going to have a wedding without at least three.
puns related.
We also had a pun for our...
Oh, that's right.
I think when she sent out the invites, it was penciled me in and there was a pencil
tape to the invite.
Penciled in.
I can't be allowed around fancy functions without puns.
Otherwise, my brain just sort of explodes.
What did you guys do?
We got an Irish-themed wedding.
Okay.
We got married on St. Patrick's Day intentionally.
That's fantastic.
How many people went to the hospital?
None.
Oh, wow.
There was some restraint exercise.
It was, yeah.
It was a very sober wedding in reception.
Yeah.
Huh.
Gilling and I got married on Good Friday.
And several.
Catholic family.
Yes.
I come from a very, very, very observant Catholic family.
One of my aunts refused to come, and my mother showed up in black.
Why?
Because it was the holy day of obligation.
It's a holy day of obligation to be married.
Oh yeah, that's a fair point
Although
A lot of the family did not come
Although it was
You know
The family saves you a lot
On the per person per plate cost
But in my defense
The family that did not come
I largely don't talk to
So it was kind of like eh
That's a win
But their checks cashed the same
Mm-hmm
Well that's nice
At least the gifts were nice
That's that you know
60% of the reason
for the wedding is the wedding
gifts and the recourse. No,
60% of the wedding is because the wife demands
it. I was all in favor of
eloping. You know,
I don't think either one of us
were in favor of eloping. That is not
true. Who wanted to elope?
Me, like a month before the wedding.
Oh, well, again, after we had
planned and paid for and
gone through all the organizational bullshit.
I was like, this is too stressful.
We should just go get married right now.
That's fair.
I mean, we cut off.
Yeah, when all the panic kicked in and we lost our photographer a month before the wedding.
No, it was more than a month.
Was it two months?
No, it was, it was like six months.
Oh, okay, so that was more reasonable than I remember.
Man, weddings.
Oh, my God.
We did a potato bar for the meal.
Seriously?
Yeah, very Irish, right?
Potato bar at the reception.
Dude, I dig it.
There's nothing you can make with potatoes that I won't eat.
I have discovered.
Yeah, it's just baked potatoes, stuff them with...
Whatever you want, yeah.
That actually sounds amazing.
It went really well.
Hey, what are we doing for your, my brother's wife, sister-in-law, my sister-in-law's baby shower.
Sorry, I started, I started drinking a dinner.
What are we doing for that?
What do you mean?
What are we doing?
Can we do it like a potato bar?
You're not going to be there.
All right, I'll go to the range.
Fuck it.
Screw it.
It's a baby shower.
I don't know what I'm supposed to go to.
nobody tells me these things
your wife does she just sold you well
sold I won't remember she'll tell me the day
she's going and I'm not invited it's why you
didn't know what it was you were never invited that's
probably a fair point so speaking
of the range yes yesterday was
kind of a wash so
yesterday was a lot of travel for me
yeah Nick and Rachel didn't drive in until
yesterday you were here to meet
us when we got when we came in
on Sunday very nice of you to welcome
them yeah of course yesterday was
mostly a wash because it was like pissing
raining most of the day. But then today was the, I wouldn't call it an annual, because God only knows
when we'll be able to do this again, but it was the first MWF summer camp range day, which Brian
arranged, and we owe him all some thanks for that. We do, and he refused to let us throw money
at the problem either. I mean, it didn't cost me anything. Oh, I know it didn't cost you anything.
But like I said at the range, and I'm sure Phil agrees with this, when there's a really nice range,
we like to heap tons of money upon the range owner
to keep the really nice range available.
To be fair, if we'd gone to the other range that was closed
because the family was on vacation,
we probably would have all spent a couple hundred bucks worth of ammo there.
Fine, done, sold, don't care.
I can't blame them for being on vacation.
Yeah, no, no, they get to be on vacation.
I mean, if they wanted all of that money, which we would have shot, lots of the money.
Here comes Stacey.
Oh, sweet.
Fantastic.
But yeah, we went out to, so it was a 22 range, a rifle range, and a pistol range.
We introduced some people to high war rifles.
I think my itch for a big, big, bad, banging rifle has been scratched for a hot minute.
So you didn't like the 300?
Phil thinks I might be mentally ill for putting 120 rounds of a 300 wind mag in a single range session downrange.
I'll agree with that.
Okay.
Okay, that's probably fair.
One of your friends is up there.
Oh, damn, that's cool.
Gillian, take a look at this thing.
One of your very large friends is out there, please don't knock over my edge.
That is a wild-looking bug.
We are not going to get the camera on that bug.
That's so cool.
All right, so one of the great things about these campbots, we do them in all different locations,
and you get to see some wild craters.
Gillian got introduced to groundhogs.
She didn't know groundhogs.
What?
Or a thing. She'd never seen one before.
They're all over the place here.
I know.
My dog killed one last week.
This spider has got to be a solid inch and a half across.
An inch and a half, that means two.
Nah.
Here come the rain.
Maybe it was the extreme leg spread.
I got a picture, but it's not a good angle.
I'll try to get a picture.
We're going to get a picture for the Instagram.
That is a cool spider.
A fishing spider?
Is that mean you put them on a hook and throw them in the water?
All spiders are crashing spiders if you're aggressive enough.
Catch fish.
Oh, wow.
Oh, cool.
That's wild.
But yeah, at the 22 range, we introduced a couple of people to new experiences.
Yeah, surprise 22s.
Loved it.
Piper shot her for a semi-auto ever in life today.
Nice.
That's a good.
I take it back.
She shot my Henry survival rifle like a couple of times.
That's a semi-auto.
It runs more reliably than the semi-auto, she would shoot, put it that way.
Yours can make it through three rounds?
Yes.
mine can make it through
like an entire range day
without choking once.
I've experienced, to be fair, only two.
Were they Henrys or were they
Chargers? They were the Henry's, the
original Henrys.
They were the original Henry's because the guys
are old.
But
two, three rounds, jam.
Every time. I don't know if it was the mags that got damaged.
It was the magazines and
if you talk to those gentlemen again anytime soon.
Yeah. Tell them they
are the deceased?
I'm just fucking around with the smoke.
I'm just messing around with it.
So, tell them to go online
in Henry's website and purchase
a couple of new production magazines.
Okay.
Because the Henry's survival offer,
they updated something in the magazine
and ever since then,
they've gotten a lot more reliable.
Oh, okay.
And they're backwards compatible.
I mean, it's the same gun.
Well, yeah.
So it fits in the charters,
it fits in the older Henry's.
But it's, I don't know what it is.
It's different.
But I know that everybody I've talked to
that has one of the newer ones, like from the last
five or ten years. They're great.
The magazines come with them are phenomenal.
Oh, shit.
Because they've had nothing.
These guys have had nothing but problems with these little survival rifles.
Yeah. And, you know, to be fair, the guys that have them are like,
yeah, you know, I throw it in my truck for when I'm going,
or bush-lacking.
Hey!
Dog.
Enough.
Oh, there's another dog.
Yeah.
Yeah, you know, just standard extra dog stuff.
Yeah.
And the funniest thing is she played with cricket,
just fine last year.
It's probably because it's dark.
Yeah.
I was the best.
I'm noticing that...
That camera is not having
a good time with the light out here, but it's fine.
Oh, we'll figure it out.
We're shadows.
Yeah.
Witness protection.
Got to trade around a bunch of the 22s.
I've been informed on the way home that...
You need a 1022 with a heavy car?
If I purchased a 1022
and spent some money on it, that
someone might come out to the range and shoot with me more
often, so that might have it.
So the key is,
You buy a bare receiver and you build from there.
Yeah.
With that 10.
Brownells are kid with a hole in the back of the receiver so you can clean it from the breach.
Yes.
And not from the muzzle.
That's the key.
And Ruger doesn't do that on their factory guns.
Yep.
So get a stripped receiver from either brown owls or kid with a hole in the back.
The kids are tighter tolerance too.
The kids are better for sure.
Brownows are just fine.
But the kids are made to be competition.
You do pay a little bit more of a premium.
Yep.
Absolutely.
But if you're going to build from a real.
receiver up,
a lot as well.
Pay a little premium.
Makes cleaning a whole lot easier.
Yeah, it does.
I will have to bear all that in mind.
But yeah, got to play with semi-autos
and the 22s.
Their first experiences was suppressors.
Which,
oh, spoiled.
It's always fun.
I know.
Spoiled.
Trade it around like every gun any of us had,
except no one would shoot the Marlon,
which is fine.
That thing was having an issue.
I put a couple of squirts of oil
down into the fire control group
and it behaved itself a little bit better.
but I think I finally just sucked it up the fact that I'm going to have to tear that fire control group all the way apart and figure out what's going on.
Have you ever taken the extractor out of that fire control group?
I have not.
Okay.
The extractor out of the bolt, you mean?
Yes.
So, yeah, sorry.
So it doesn't seem to have an issue extracting, except for that one time, it's ejecting.
It's getting the round, the case out of the.
But one of the things I noticed with the old Marlins, I have an older Marlins to hold.
as well. Sometimes there is a burr on that casting that didn't get fully machined off.
And what it'll do is it'll hang up either with the case snapping in, snapping the
rim under, or taking the rim out from under when it ejects. It doesn't seem to fully want
to move. That gritty feeling you were talking about. The gritty feeling was actually in the
ejector though. Oh, was it in the ejector?
Yeah. Maybe I'm wrong. The last time I had the fire control group out, the ejector is just,
It's a little rod with an angle.
Yeah, with an angle, right angle at the end of it.
And when you actuate that, you can feel grit in it.
So the last time I had it out, I hosted it out with Ballastall and, like, worked it a bunch of times.
And it smoothed out a lot.
Okay.
But it seems like once every magazine or two, it just gets a little bit lazy.
And you end up with, you know, one spent case in the chamber, one trying to load out in the magazine.
And that's suboptimal.
I mean, generally, two in one doesn't go well.
Two and one does not go well.
But other than that, everybody seemed to have a ball.
Oh, my gosh.
We spent, like, what, an hour and 45 minutes on the 22 range?
Probably, longer than anywhere else.
Almost two hours on the 22 range.
We spent more time to the 22 range in anywhere.
Oh, geez, we probably put between all the guns.
Oh, gosh.
A few hundred rounds, easy?
Oh, more than that, because I put, was it 50 in a box?
I put four boxes through my stuff.
And I have to say,
Yours in particular?
Oh, it's smooth.
That's, that is, I have to admit, it looks silly.
It does.
It's this tiny, tiny little receiver.
A barrel you could beat an elephant down with.
Oh my gosh, yes.
And overscope is the only way to put it when you have a third, what, a 32x scope on this?
No, no, no.
It's a 4 to 16, 40-mil tube with over-travel on both axes.
It's only a 16-X-0?
Yeah, yeah, 4 to 16.
But on 22, 16 feels like 30.
too. Because really, you're not shooting a 22
beyond 200 yards. Really,
you're not. You can.
I mean, the range we're on goes more than 200 yards.
It does, and I did zinc some steel at 300,
but I was at, I was at
max up elevation, and I was holding max
on my MOA drop. Okay.
So, yes, I was dropping like,
I think when I math it out, it was like
five and a half feet, six and a half
feet.
Something like that?
Ballistic coefficient, like an artillery piece.
Oh, my God. You're, you're a
essentially lobbying a football, but 25 yards, 50 yards.
There's a laser beam.
What's that, that stack up of steel discs we were shooting at on the A-frame?
Was it like a two-inch down to half-inch?
Probably, they're small.
So I was able to, in a 10-round mag, and it was a seven, it was a seven-target string.
I fired nine rounds, and I was able to hit seven.
I missed two.
I missed number five, and I missed.
This number six.
Okay.
Once each, but then I tagged them on the second one.
But, dude, hammer-forged inch and eighth profile barrel.
Yeah, it's a nice barrel.
Oh, dude.
It's amazing.
But it is, it is cheating when it comes to 22s.
That carbon fiber barrel you've got in yours is sweet.
Yeah, the Volkortzen barrels are nice, for sure.
Oh, my gosh.
But they're not cheap either.
Oh, Phil, that's what you need.
When you build one, you've got to buy a valcors and barrel.
Absolutely.
So how much am I going to be into this 1022?
Oh, at least $1,000.
Yeah, before I was $1,000.
If you let us build it for you.
Yeah, absolutely.
If you let us spend your money, we're going to get you into Night Vision range for a 1022.
Nick, am I ever going to get you in a Night Vision?
Yeah.
To repay the financial damage you've been doing so far?
Because, like, I'm just, I'm just, look, I am fighting the county already.
I'm probably going to have to retain another lawyer to get this stupid garage built.
Then we can worry about Night Vision.
because currently
All right
Phil's aware of this
I don't know if I've mentioned
I've heard you talk about on the podcast
Oh no not that
Oh maybe it's no okay
My newest obsession
I have the plans
For a 22 long rifle
Gatling gun
Yes
So I need the garage
Yes I need the garage
I need the garage
To house the machines
To build the 22 LR Gatling gun
Which I mean
Who doesn't
doesn't need a mini Gatlin gun.
Everybody.
Everybody does.
Exactly.
And the best part is, because it is a other type weapon,
and because it is crank fed, it is 50 state legal.
Sure.
And it's a rim fire.
So you can feed that thing all day.
You're not looking at 50 bucks every time you're going to win the crank dry.
That's nice.
Oh, dude, this is going to be so cool.
It's also going to take three or four years to build.
Yeah.
Either that, or I'm going to manage to smooth talk in.
you're making one of your cannons in about 40 millimeter.
I mean, I can.
I have, I have some, some, uh, some, um, some, um, um,
tubeing.
So continuous cast steel tubing.
That's currently a one inch bore.
I was thinking about making, I was thinking about making a swivel gun eventually for it.
I will.
You will.
I have some 06 that I can make into the chamber for it.
I'm concerned.
06 and heat treat tends to crack.
It's very prone to cracking.
But I don't know that I need heat treat on it
in order to withstand firing pressures for that.
I've got to run some calculations, but we'll see.
I'll go to them into it one way or the other.
Can we fire a swivel gun at your range?
Yeah, he doesn't care.
All right.
Yeah, he's sold.
I guess I'm making a swivel gun.
I mean, his only rule is be safe.
Be safe as in fire the swivel gun,
not at the 400-yard target.
Responsibly.
Yeah. Okay. Okay.
The only issue is the nearest hospital is 20 minutes away, and it's not a very good hospital.
Okay. Which is why the very first thing I did was hold up the Rebel Raiders, Apothecary over my head and say,
there's a whole blowout kit and a tourniquet in here just in case.
Yeah, we had plenty of med gear and we had a well-qualified individual to use it.
Oh, yeah, that's right. I mean, had the flight EMT with us.
I have said on multiple occasions that there's never a great place to get some.
severely injured, but these kinds of events aren't the worst.
Okay, to be fair, any one of us is probably better than your average Joe at Walmart.
Absolutely.
I mean, we've at least taken a first aid class, most of us.
I mean...
Hell, most of our wives have taken more advanced first aid than your average Walmart goer.
I've done things that most EMTs haven't done.
Probably fair.
Not that I wanted to, so, you know.
But in a case.
The rifle range, though, that was fun.
That was fun.
That was a lot of fun.
Oh, my gosh.
Of course, this one starts off the day by like, hey, here's a mozin.
Bayonet on it.
Everybody needs to fire the Mosin with the bayonet on it.
Of course.
It's kind of a right of passage.
I mean, it's only, what, six and a half feet, seven feet tall when you put the bayon at least, yes.
It's wild.
Everyone had to be encouraged.
No, really, hit the bolt handle harder.
Yeah, pain to close.
So, for those of you that haven't fired a Mosin, haven't had the pleasure, that is,
basically the sludge hammer
with a barrel.
It's built so that you could use it as a sledgehammer
and a pinch. It really is.
You have to fight the bolt into
the firing position. You're not going to chamber this
round accidentally.
You're also not going to extract
the round accidentally.
You really got to put some gumption to it.
You got treated like it owes your money.
We did. We did learn
an interesting thing about those bayonet
logs, didn't we? We did. There's a release
button. There's a release button, and if you don't clean them first, what are they full of?
They're full of cosmoling. So I'd fully clean the rifle. That was not a concern, but I'd never put
the bayonet on it. I never shot their rifle. We also learned that, interestingly enough,
USSGI and communist cleaning rods do seem to be somewhat compatible. They're halfway compatible.
Somewhat for pushing anyway. At least you can jam them out of the far end. Because the cleaning rod
that's in the bottom of the stock
is not long enough to go all the way down
and I didn't have the handle.
That doesn't make a ton of sense to me, but I'm not rushing.
It does? It does
when you look at the Mosin cleaning kit.
If you buy the rifle
with the cleaning kit, there's about
two six inch attachments that go on the end
of that to then go all the way through the rifle.
And the cleaning kit's only like six inches,
six or seven inches long. To be it in the buttstock.
Correct. A lot of them
were hidden underneath the butt plate.
Fun, fun times with that when I got the, when Gil and I inherited her father's SKS,
was the realization that not only had the cleaning kit disappeared off to screw all at some point in time.
Oh, yeah, well, they do that.
But also, someone in China got a little lazy when they were drilling that hole for the cleaning kit,
and it wasn't actually the right diameter for an SKS cleaning kit.
That sounds about right.
Also, it, I didn't realize.
this, but apparently S.K.S. and AK
cleaning kits, despite looking very similar, are not.
They are a different diameter. Yeah, very
different diameter. Yeah, I tried to put
an AK cleaning kit because I had a couple extras
of those. Yeah. And then I had to
take the butt plate off and mortar it to get it to
pop back out. So
I went and got an SKS cleaning kit
and then had to
had to
gunsmith with a Dremel.
Oh, sure. Waller out just a little bit
so it would pop one. Which, okay,
so did we ever find
out is it a Noriko SKS or is it a Chinese SKS or is it a Russian SKS that you have?
So it is a 76 Chinese manufacturer that was imported through B squared.
Okay, so the question is, B squared?
Is the cleaning kit a Chinese of that model number?
I don't know, I know it's Chinese.
See, here's the thing.
China likes to change shit.
Yes, and not keep great.
notes on what they change. Correct. And the problem is a lot of the documentation for the SKSs,
the Mosins, the AKs, they're in metric-ish documentation. And I do mean that quite seriously.
Because if you look at some of the old Mosin documentation, they're in old Russian imperial measurements.
Also, were you aware, because I certainly wasn't until I got this silly thing, that the Chinese
depending on what year they produced the SKS
used either pressed and pin barrels or screw-in.
Yeah, yeah, two different series.
And then there are screw-in with press-pin locks.
I came to this realization when I purchased a correct stock
for a Chinese SKS,
and I noticed that the inletting wasn't exactly right.
And that's when I realized I had a screw-in stock
on a pressed in barrel.
It fits.
It works fine.
It just looks a little bit.
But given that the only parts of this SKAs
that are still like original
is basically the barreled action.
I had to source a box magazine,
a stock, a bayonet.
Although interestingly enough, when I ordered the bayonet,
the bayonet came on a piece of cardboard
with Norenko, like, packaging and everything on it,
shrink-wrapped.
It was like an original...
Huh.
It looked like an original old stock, Narenko.
It could be.
That was imported U.S.
and it was sitting on my shelf for God knows how long.
I'll say it probably was.
I forget.
Oh, and Chinese sling.
Oh, yeah.
Because once I got into the mode of, like, put this thing back together,
I spent the time to look for all the correct Chinese parts,
even though Russian would have worked.
You know, Russian would have worked mostly,
except for maybe the stock.
because I think the Russians primarily used pressed in barrels.
Although, I have pressed in barrel in mine.
Okay, so yeah, it would have fit.
It would have been fine.
I mean, most of the Russian AKs were pressed in barrels,
but some of the Warsaw AKs were threaded.
Yugoslavia, I want to say, maybe.
Okay, so you think it's Ugo.
But, yeah, the Chinese did all kinds of weird stuff with their SKS.
Some were box mags, some of them, the SKSMs,
actually have the correct bottom metal to use AKMAs.
not the duck bill
like 30 round gun show specials but
true box stock
AK 47 magazine
I in the world I mean fine
okay if I got one by accident I wouldn't be mad
but like
why that was a later
addition because the
the AKs were getting really popular for import
in the US so the Chinese
because they really love to sell stuff to the
white boys they do
they started making
SKS as I would accept AK and
seven mags because at that point
you're talking about like early 80s
yeah you would be yeah and you could get a crate
a friggin like old
milserb AK mags for nothing
you really could oh speaking of AKs
Brian bought a
brought a fun toy to the range you want to talk about that VEPR?
So
that wasn't a VEPR not a PSL
but yeah I think it was a VEPER
Alright so I have always referred to it as a
Romack 3
Okay so it could be
Romack 3 is a viable model number for it
Okay
So where was yours made?
In Romania.
Okay, so you have Romack 3, yes.
Romack 3, Veper, you know, it goes by a few different names.
Go ahead.
So it's the Romanian copy of the Russian Dragonoff.
I bought it in the late 90s.
Dude.
You got a deal.
Out of a catalog for about $750.
Oh, that hurts my soul.
Yeah, it came with two mags.
I bought four more later.
The dovetail for the sight mount is wonderful.
You take the scope off, put it back on.
It holds zero, and I think it's a dream to shoot.
The recoil in it's really weird.
The impulse is strange.
It is.
It is.
It is a weird recoil impulse.
But it's comfortable.
It doesn't throw you around.
It just shoves you.
Yeah, it's like a buddy coming up and giving you a stiff push on your shoulder.
Yeah.
Every time.
There's no sharp impact.
There's no violent upward jerk that you get someone else with a 308 semi-auto.
And I got to say,
you're right, it holds zero like you would not believe.
What were the gong sizes at 100 yards?
Do you know offhand?
I don't know.
They're probably 10 inch, 12 yards.
I would say 10 inch.
I'd say 8 or 10, yeah.
I mean, freestanding, offhand shooting, no problem bringing those gongs.
And I had no problem hitting the 200-yard torso with it.
It was fantastic.
And that was with, you know, surplus ammunition.
Super old spam can surplus ammo.
Yeah, exactly.
So it's not like we're shooting sub-MOA ammo.
No.
But still, hell of a shooting rifle.
It's always been fun to shoot.
Although I have to say, the 300 Wemag definitely scratched my itch for violent.
Why did you shoot it sitting down?
Everyone else was standing up.
Because shooting it sitting down is bench appropriate.
Phil has, Phil needed to understand the amount of recoil I was subjecting myself to for funzies.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now, to be fair, it wasn't like that.
like it was like bagged or anything.
I was shooting off my open.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
But as Gillian asked me afterwards, she was like,
so how was that 300?
That really loud rifle Brian had.
And I was like,
they said it was kind of shotgun recoil.
And it kind of is.
But a shotgun is like a good solid push.
Yeah, a shotgun is like a thump.
And this thing is like being in a car accident.
Just more like a sledgehammer.
Yeah, it is.
Yeah.
But hold it like a 12 gauge and you'll be fine.
Hold it like a 12 gauge.
and jump out of your hands.
I don't want one.
I mean, I don't, I don't, I don't want one.
I look, no.
Okay, so Phil, are you familiar with the Nemo?
300 WinMag AR?
Yes, it sounds like, um, a bad decision.
I can tell you right now, it's a terrible decision.
It's wonderfully fun.
And you can spend so much money turning things into noise.
I had, I had to explain to Gail me and like, what on earth would you use that for?
And I was like, you use that when you're hunting something that,
3-08 may or may not put down and might try to kill you afterwards.
I shot a black bear with mine.
Yeah, or I bet it would do that just fine.
It would definitely kill a black bear.
I bet if you needed to drop an elk or a moose in its tracks.
Oh, yeah.
You do great for that.
But if you shot a southern Louisiana white tail with that thing, you would cook it and clean it in one shot.
Potentially, yes.
Yeah.
Yeah, you can hit it in the butt and it would mount its own head at that point.
Yeah.
So when I shot my bear with it, it went through both lungs and took out the shoulder blade
on the far side.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
It went through the shoulder blade on the far side.
What round were you using for that?
The same one you shot today is 150 grain.
Oh, 150 grain?
Okay.
So not super super heavy.
No?
That's solid.
I mean, what were those rounds going?
Uh, 3,200?
3250?
Measure it?
I don't know that we measured it, so I don't know.
I think somebody threw a chrono on it.
I want to say it was 3250.
Okay.
So they're moving pretty good.
You know, for 150 grade.
Hold up while I can sold the reloading data.
So, this is the exact same caliber that I have my, what I call my 300 vibe check rounds that I've made from my 300 wind mag.
I took 155 grain black tips, M2 AP pulls out of 30-0.6, and I threw them over max Sammy spec, 300 wind meg cases.
using iMR 4064 i will not give you my powder charge because i am drunk
and i don't want to be responsible for blowing up your gun
uh hornity says 150 grain about 3 300 so i've managed to get 155 grains up to about 3655
as my about average which is cooking two level four plates at 200 yards it will go through both
Do not shoot these at anything that you like.
But, I mean...
Put your shoulder into it, Chris.
You can go up to Jesus.
I mean, I think I've shot 280 grain pills out of my 300 win mag.
Nice.
Which is, it's a stout, it's a stout bullet.
And honestly, I've never found a range at which they were appropriate.
Because I've only ever had access to 3, 400 yards.
Sure.
Yeah, and that's the way I am, which is why I don't know anything bigger than the 300.
Right.
It's 400 yards as long as I can go.
And, you know, really, at 400 yards with 300 wind mag,
it's kind of a joke shot because the bullet is so stable at those distances,
3, 400 yards, you can shoot golf ball-sized targets.
Realistically, if you've got a quality right.
Yeah.
But, man.
It was also the first time I ever got to push my 18-inch AR pass 100 yards.
Which is very respectable, I thought.
I need to spend some time behind that rifle.
You were all over a third scale Ipsic at 200 yards.
All over that.
You were combat effective at 200 yards.
Yeah, but for a 77 grain match king and a hand load,
I feel like part of the problem was me.
Part of the problem was you, I will say.
Kick him in while he's down.
I appreciate it.
Hey, you know, I'm not trying to kick you.
I'm just saying, I've done a little bit more bench rest shooting than Phil had.
and I think some of it is the most,
I've been doing a lot more recent bench rest shooting than you have.
You've been focusing on self-defense shooting.
Well, and also I have been to the range exactly four times in the last 12 months.
Sure.
And every bit of that was shooting 22s or that A-300.
Nothing wrong with that.
And that was the first thing I admitted, because when you were like, do you want me to shoot it?
And I was like, please, by all means.
Because, like, we were trying to tweak the scope because very, very,
obviously part of the problem was we were shooting at a very slight downward angle.
We were a five to seven degree down angle.
But also like I shot that thing for group when I made this load,
but I haven't been out to the range since to like get the scope zero.
Okay.
But to be most fair, shooting a downward angle into a gully with swirling with.
Yeah.
I really need to get that thing back out to my home range, 100 yard target.
and really like
try to spend some time
shooting small groups and make sure that the scope is
really on point and I just need to put ammo through it.
Phil, do you have bags?
I do. I don't use...
Actually, no, I don't have bags anymore.
You don't have a rear bag?
Are you familiar with the fist technique?
Yep.
Work with that.
I mean, that's how I shoot my three-way Winchester
off front bipot and then rear
fist. Yeah, so for the viewers that don't know,
the fist technique is essentially you ball up your fist.
underneath the buttstock and you you either squeeze your fist to bring it up or relax your
fist to bring the rifle down and you rely on that for your vertical and then left to right is all
in your shoulder so it gives you a little more fine control yeah that is separate from your breath
and i mean that's the i guess that's a frustrating part is like i know that back in the day when i was
shooting more regularly yeah i managed to get the three-away winchester to like cloverly
four rounds together at 100 yards.
So I'm very capable
of making some fairly nice, consistent
small groups, but I
haven't shot the 308 in a couple of years.
I have not done
anywhere near enough range work
in a very long time. Yeah.
That is, it is
definitely a perishable skill.
It is a very perishable skill.
And in the last two or three range
trips that I have made have been explicitly
focused on
small groups at long
distance. Yeah. And the last
couple trips I've done with either been familiarization.
Exactly. Fun shooting
with Piper, 22. Yeah.
And the only thing I've really kept abreast on
is like, I make it a point every time I go
to the ranch except for today, obviously.
Yeah. Drop a box in the night.
I sink 50, 60, 70 rounds through
my, you know, through my carry gun.
So that at least that skill
stays up in the current.
Look, if you're going to carry. I did bring my
3 to 7 heaven out with my dad
fairly recently. Nice. So apparently,
whereas I used to always say I shoot rifles really good and pistols okay.
Now I shoot pistols, okay, and rifles I just have to relearn.
I know how you feel.
I've done the same thing the last few years.
A whole lot of pistol, no rifle.
My rifle skills have really suffered.
You know, it's amazing how perishable that skill is.
The frustrating part of it, and like, you know, I've talked to y'all about it.
When Raising Values Reboots, we will be bringing the audience up to speed on, like, the last nine months of me and my wife's life.
But like, every spare weekend, every spare afternoon.
like sometimes two or three times a week.
We've been running back and forth to the next town over.
And it's just,
it has absorbed every bit of free time to the point where like,
like we have,
I have maintenance tasks and need to be done on the house and our vehicles
that keep getting pushed back.
Well, there's only so many hours in the day.
Yeah.
Well, you get to the point where it's like, okay, we have a weekend.
We have, I'm off on a Friday.
We have a three-day weekend.
Yeah.
I'm going to spend the next two days dealing with things I don't want to deal with.
And then Sunday, like,
turning the phones off and it's it's no one is allowed to intrude in that time except for me and wife and my
daughter and try to reconnect so you're gonna like it we just kind of had that situation brewing for a bit
and now that that's starting to settle down I'm trying to refocus on like okay there are things
I need to fix at my home there are things we need to work on on the vehicles and we're just trying to
like do things like this where it's like we just punch the reset button
man you really need that in your life at certain points because you can only give
so much to other people before you start
destroying yourself.
Yeah.
And that's on top of work, which
you and I've talked about, but the complete
cluster. Oh, man.
No matter where
you work, no matter where you work, there's
always times a year
or seasons in the work
that are just a kick.
No matter what you do.
The hard part for me, and I suspect that if I
like pull the audience right here,
all these men and women would tell me very similar
to a story where like, because
you're a very conscientious worker
you make yourself
indispensable.
Is it a moth?
Moth just flu my drink.
Oh no.
Well, if it makes you feel any better.
Pitch it over the edge.
Yeah, pitch it over the edge.
We'll fill it. I don't eat a new glass.
It's been sterilized.
But I'm not going to drink the moth.
I mean, you could drink the moth.
It's like drinking the worm in.
It's like the worm in tequila, isn't it?
No, no.
This is not bourbon.
You're fine.
You can stick your head in your mouth.
You need this one last time in the 25 week that you really liked.
This one you did not get to try because I didn't have it last time.
It's a 16 ride.
These are the two local ones.
Yeah, these are the two local ones which you'll have to try, which I have to say,
I think this is my favorite.
Agreed.
The Jackson Purchase.
Yes, the Jackson Purchase.
My God, is that a smooth drink?
So this is batch.
Batch number one of Jackson Purchase Burbank from Hickman, Kentucky.
I will probably have to have you FedEx me some of those.
We'll figure something out.
figure something out. The other one here is
the old tarol from Paducah, Kentucky. The old tarol's
good. It's good. It's not as good as the Jackson
Purchase. The Jackson Purchase is much
smooth. This is unique, and I don't know how to describe it.
Smoke?
Yeah, it's more complicated than that.
It's... It makes me feel like it's going to be stronger
than it is, but it's not.
It's not super strong.
But you think it will be at the beginning.
Yeah, the bite at the
at the start is stronger than you would initially think no one is true.
But anyway, Phil.
I feel like probably because of our own individual, like, work ethic and consciousness,
just from what I've gotten over everyone's personality,
like you probably make yourself indispensable at your workplace,
which means two things.
You are the one in the middle of everything that goes upside down
because you're the only one that can fix it.
And it also means that, like, whereas most of your coworkers work,
work at 70% that means you now work at 200% trying to pick up the rest of the world.
Brian what do you do for work?
So how do we talk about this without talking about it?
So I write software for industrial automation.
Oh, okay.
And at this point I do more consulting than software writing.
Sure.
And I build tools for my coworkers.
And what you were trying to describe about picking up the slack for our coworkers,
We have to pick up the slack for our customers.
Yeah.
So everybody I work with is great.
And they're all full-in, great individuals.
They all have great skills.
Well, on the software development, and they kind of have to be.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's really not a lot of room for Slack there.
There's not.
It's our customers that we have to go in and help out and pick up their Slack because they don't know.
They're very new to what we're doing usually.
Yeah.
So it's a very different role, but it's a lot of fun.
That's for sure.
You know, have you ever done work with Tracti?
I don't know the name.
Okay. It's a company in Wisconsin that builds like mini-sourages and garages, prefab steel buildings.
Yeah, my brother's an engineer up there. I thought you might have worked with him.
He does a lot of the integrations of new equipment up there.
So a lot of what we do ends up being in the manufacturing space.
Right.
So.
They do like stamp steel buildings.
We've never done anything with the buildings.
We've got customers that do body parks, you know, door panels, hoods, things.
They make the metal stamping machines that make those parts.
Sure.
That's heavily automated.
So absolutely.
It's all automated.
Even the transfers between the presses so they can...
Just keep the guys' hands out of the press.
Yep.
Oh, yeah.
There's nobody nor any of these presses.
Yeah.
Hundreds of tons.
Yeah.
The hard part for me is that it's not even like I could throw it off my coworkers
and say, oh, my coworkers are slacking, but it's like it's a segregation of responsibilities
and skill sets issue where like...
It's...
I would have to have a person with a certain level of knowledge
to be able to teach them the processes that I do
and if they don't have those processes,
then the time it takes me and teach them how to do it is better spent just doing it.
That's the trap I fall into a lot of times
because a lot of what I'm doing is
we call it reconciliation, but it's data analysis.
And it's really hard to, like, just literally just a week ago.
I was doing one of these reconciliation processes.
every freaking month and I have to
do a data sweep through
33, 34,000 accounts that are set up for automated payments
and make sure
that whatever their health
insurance record states they should be paying is what
they are paying in the automated system
and there are reasons, they're valid reasons sometimes those two don't match.
Sometimes people want to retro pay agreement or
people are, it's like their last month before they come off of rolls
and it's prorated. But the system
all it says is they're supposed to pay this much because that's what's in this one field in the database and this is what this system is charging them. Why are they different?
So what I finally did this past week was I dumped all this into Excel and I took the data table I built from doing this last month and used V-lookup to pull it into this month so that if I had made a note like a month ago that oh this this is this this one had a credit on the account. I'm pausing it until
August. I pull that in.
Now I know the reason these two don't match
is because the next payment is coming out to August.
Basically, I just
I keep looking for shortcuts
to make this process faster and faster
and faster. But
just to teach somebody how to use something
as simple as Excel and use
V-lookup and then format these two tables
properly so that this
data set that came out of the application, that was not
formatted by the way. And this one
that is formatted because I formatted last
month, they match. Because like, you know
when you use V-lookup, if the data formats are not exactly the same, like, if this is text
and this is a number, V-look-up will say those two don't, those two things don't matter. Yeah, V-Look-Up says,
no, does not agree. Yeah. So it's, it's data analysis. And unfortunately, I'm in an operation
segment where all of my coworkers are operations people doing changes to the health records every day.
and my job is to basically
not be embedded down to the operation
to be up a 30,000 feet
saying I'm looking for a trend in the data
where something doesn't look right.
Make all the final numbers
into dollar amounts
at minimum.
Yeah, it's basically
I'm following back behind
eight people who are making
change these applications every day
and then over a two-week
period every week or every month
I have to go back through everything they've done
and say, these are the things that float
on the top don't look right.
Because at the end of the day, when you have this much human
intervention, you're going to have human error.
Wave high out of the camera, Tommy.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
They can't see your face because you're back to
like that. Hello? We are
all shadow people tonight. It's okay.
It's witless protection.
Witless protection. Yes.
Unintentional witness protection.
But yeah, it's
I don't know. It was nice to get out of
work and to get up here.
and share booze and stories and film with everybody.
That's a fantastic start to an old fashion.
And tomorrow, I know that some of our group is going to head out tomorrow.
Some of us are going to go sightseeing.
Yep.
Some of us are going to do some hikes around here, I think.
There's about 14 miles of hiking trails, I think, in just this little area we're in, which is great.
You have fun with that, because if I try to get my group, if I try to get,
give my girls to hike 14 miles. I won't be going on. We're not going to do all 14 miles.
We'll probably circumnavigate the lake in the morning.
It's a very nice.
Four or five miles.
Nice he's not.
And then after that, I mean, Thursday, the three of us are heading out, pulling up stakes and heading back home to reality.
I'm thinking, well, there's the Casey Jones Distillery up here.
One of my coworkers has requested moonshine cherries.
So I'm going to get in some of those.
Do not play gay chicken with us.
What do you think?
A gay chicken with us, we will win.
Again, it's different than the other two.
It is.
It is.
It's a wee bourbon or is that the rye.
That was the 16 rye.
Okay.
So that was the 16 rye.
That is a northern style bourbon.
Yeah, Canadian rye.
I've got Canadian buddy.
Yeah, it is like Canadian rye.
They call bourbon rye.
They call bourbon rye and I'm like, no, you got to use the right name.
Oh, yeah, no.
No, there's bourbon and there's rye bourbon.
And then there's blended bourbon.
I got to be honest, after drinking these others, this we know is a lower alcoholic content.
It feels watered down.
Doesn't it, though?
Yeah.
It does.
The northern bourbon does feel a little bit.
Okay, all right.
I wouldn't try to be insulting.
It's just different.
I think you are correct.
It does feel a little watered down.
I have to say, no.
The Jackson purchase, definitely the winner of the night.
It's good.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh, absolutely.
But if you want like a really good, a really good mixing,
that's this one made here, the 16.
It's a good flavor.
The one thing we do have to do this evening before people start pulling out,
so we've got to figure out what to do next year.
Oh, yeah, we do at the biggest spot.
We've learned our lesson from last year.
Last year, we just kind of like, okay, guys, we'll figure it out.
And the figuring out happened in December, which was, and thank God if it happened then, or we wouldn't have had anything bought it.
True, because we did book all the available cabins and lots of spots.
We bought the entire park.
We did.
We did, to be fair.
We did that in Michigan, too.
Yes, but in Michigan it was because they only had five cabins.
Yes, you're not wrong.
Here it's because we waited to them.
Do we want to go back to Arkansas?
Because my wife has never been to Arkansas.
I mean, Gillian did say,
Gillian and Piper were talking about how much Piper
like Arkansas.
And Lake to Grey is,
Lake to Grey is hard to pass up,
although there's another place
a little bit north from the Lake to Gray called
Petty Jean.
I keep trying to explain to people from Arkansas
that they don't know.
how to pronounce the places in their own state.
Right.
Because it's spelled Petit Jean.
You know what?
T-I-T-I-T-J-A-M.
I got a look up a name here.
I'm going to make Phil pronounce it.
Okay, but in my defense, it's named after a French lady.
Therefore, I'm claiming that I know how to pronounce it better than the people from
Martin.
Better than I can't.
Phil pronounce this.
Kish Waki?
Thank you.
It is not a comprehensive.
complicated name. How else would you pronounce that?
I have heard
Kishwiki, I have heard so many different
names. Time out a second. Hey, Gillian.
So I look at this and I think
Milwaukee. How do you spell Chautilus? Yeah. And so
I would go, yeah, Kishwaki. Just like Milwaukee.
Exactly. She's going to stick her head
in this mic. Gileon. Hear me out though.
All right, is this like a spelling bee? Get an ID in your head.
The name of the street is
Chappatoulis.
The name of American. All right.
T.
C-H-O-B-A
T-O-E-L-O-U-S
That sounds right to me
Did I get it right?
Listen, it starts with the T.
I have had so many people
call me asking where this street is
because they've heard of it
and they're trying to find it on a map
and there's nothing on the map
that looks like it would be spelled like that.
Yeah, that makes sense.
It's like when you drive into Washington, D.C.,
there's three or four cities
three or four exits driving into D.C., yeah, good luck pronouncing the names.
That's a lot, yeah.
Yeah.
Of course, we also have a street that's called Burgundy.
Burgundy.
And if you pronounce it Burgundy, everyone in creation is going to look to you like the actualities.
Well, Burgundy is a color.
Burgundy is a place.
Burgundy is a place.
Burgundy is a street.
Yeah, it's a place.
It's like Demon Bruin in Nashville.
I can't spell it.
And until you see it, what I'm saying doesn't make any sense.
but there's a street in downtown Nashville called Demon Bruin.
T-C-H-O-U-P-A-I.
Chop a toolless.
And then it's L-A-S.
Yeah.
T-C-H-O-B-P-I-T-O-U-A-S.
It's a riveting podcast with the spelling bee.
And that's before you can get in some of the parishes.
We need a bit of a spelling bee.
This is an educational podcast.
Yes, but the things we normally educate you on will get you put on government watch lists.
Okay, fair.
but so we'll have any kind of fun.
True, but, you know.
Except in Kentucky.
What do you mean accepting Kentucky?
I'm just saying earlier you said, you know,
we were talking about pictures and felony photos
and there's no felonies in Kentucky.
Is that the way it works?
Yeah.
There is no felonies in Kentucky?
Not at the gun range anyway.
I got some ideas for you.
What?
I'm adding a topic for us to discuss
Colonies in Kentucky?
No, Carnic Khan.
Oh, okay.
Have you heard about this?
No, I'm not.
Short version, a YouTuber was
discussing
information I had to make explosives.
Oh, yeah, the stuff out of the USGS
manuals? Yes, and the
ATF is currently trying to ruin his life.
Because of discussing
government published manuals
on the internet. That you can Google.
Right.
Oh, no, I'm speaking of
Speaking of things we've seen on the internet recently, Phil, I sent you, I don't know if you checked your Instagram, but I sent you that video from Ireland.
Reminding.
Oh, yeah.
Apparently, a Sudanese migrant has attempted to behead and gouged out the eyes of a man in Dublin.
With a pocket knife.
Or a knife.
That's inappropriate.
Or kitchen knife, depending on the-off.
Apparently, the Irish are not taking this well, and I have to say, bully to Ireland for that one.
I think it's been discussed a lot in Europe right now about the problems that this third world immigration has caused.
And the fact that these people are flat just not integrating into your community culture.
Immigration without assimilation is not part of the agreement.
Oh, I agree.
I couldn't agree more.
We have a valid culture that goes back thousands of years.
all of Western culture is based on the age of enlightenment at minute.
The enlightenment ideals of how government should function,
how your personal behavior should function,
and a basic Judeo-Christian model.
A high-trust society, yada, yeah, yeah.
Exactly, a high-trust society.
At the very least, equitable as the double-o.
at the very least, equality before the law, at bare minimum.
And I think what we have seen now proven and is no longer in dispute,
that in the UK, Ireland, Wales, most of the European countries,
equality under the law, except if you're a migrant,
except if you're a third-world immigrant.
vote. I mean, there's a lot of my brother
called people. You know, I have
to say, you know, I don't really have
any skin in the European game
other than the fact that our
system of laws are based on the Magna Carta.
Yeah, at its, at its
root. You know, a little bit in
French law for Phil's perspective,
being that their parishes instead of...
Get a Napoleonic code intermixed.
A little bit of Napoleonic code. But the vast majority
of U.S. laws
are based essentially in
the root of the Magnicarta.
equality before the law being key.
In a sense, until proven guilty, being the cornerstone behind that key.
But my gosh, it seems like Europe now has abandoned this entirely.
Europe has also abandoned any pretense that, like,
they've abandoned any pretense that people have a right to freely express ideals in a nonviolent way.
Yes.
Like, at this point, like, freedom of speech is a foregone conclusion.
Oh, it's essentially, speech is illegal in the UK.
If it upsets the crown.
Well, no, if it upsets a migrant.
But if it upsets the crown, I suppose.
Because the crown has determined that there are groups of people that are above criticism.
True.
But, I'm just quoting from history now,
But every time the government has tried to enforce different rules for different classes of people, it has usually ended poorly.
Yeah, I can't think of a time it's ended well.
Brian?
I got nothing, but I'm not a history.
I mean, okay, French Revolution, Imperial Russia, Soviet Russia, Maoist China, Nazi Germany.
Any time you take one whole group of people based on an ethnic or a religion or a religion or a Russian,
the American Revolution and taxing them less than the British.
Turns out if you tax Americans not enough, they revolt.
Well, but to be fair, if only the Crown had thought to compromise a tiny little bit
and give us a non-voting member of parliament, they probably would have chilled.
Brian, are you familiar with this?
The actual request of the American Revolutionaries before they started violently rebelling?
The specific request? No, but there was lots of olive branches as they talk about.
There was. There was actually a full decade of all the branches.
And there was actually a pretty big push in Parliament to give the American colonists a non-voting but speaking representative.
That was the key.
We wanted a speaking representative in Parliament.
Someone to voice.
Exactly.
Exactly. We didn't want to vote.
What we wanted was the right to share our grievances on the floor of parliament.
The right to speech.
and that is what the UK has violated
and that is what the government of Ireland has violated
and that is what the EU has violated
the fundamental right
of the individual to voice their dissent
and the people are not reacting well to this
gosh no, as they shouldn't
as they shouldn't
I've always stated
and like I've had this conversation
for years because I do work in public sector
Absolutely.
And I've had multiple people tell me like, you know, Phil, like, you're kind of our canary in the coal mine because you say what you say on the internet for all the world here.
And if ever there's a day where, like, you basically get chased out of your career in polite society, then we know things have gone to a different level where now you can't even voice your concerns or your opinion without immediate consequences.
And I find that a little interesting because I know I'm not the only person like in the public.
publics in the various segments of the public sector it thinks the way I do you're not
you're a you're a but I'm the one of the biggest bullseye a bag probably because we are a
small content creator yeah and in all reality we are a small content creator definitely
micro niche and you know what fair enough limited topic matter we can be fairly abrasive
individuals from time to time we've been known to pick fights with our supporters we've been
known to pick fights because you only sharpen iron with a harder product.
Look, me and Phil, we've gone back and forth about a number of things before,
and we do it respectfully because we want each other to be better.
We want our patrons to be better.
We want each other to all be better because rising tide lifts all ships.
Yep.
Really.
And if you cannot intelligently and articulately argue your point,
You probably don't understand it well enough to voice it.
So, like, if we can have a fight first, like a dog fight.
And, you know, this is the, this is why I bring up the problem of speech codes in Europe.
And the problem of the migrants in Europe.
Because really, really, the governments there are favoring the migrants with speech codes,
with Islamic protection ordinances and a variety of other things.
Blasphemy laws essentially.
enforced in all of France.
Thought crime.
Exactly.
Thought crime.
If the populace cannot speak freely
and cannot dissent from the government,
the only next viable reaction is violence.
And this is why we can never give up speech.
Ever.
And I would add this.
You can't take two different things
and mix them together with two different rulesets.
Exactly.
Because that just creates chaos.
You have to have, at the very least, at the bare minimum, a unified rule side.
I think that's the perfect way to phrase that.
Yeah, equality under the law.
And realistically, the Sikhs are the perfect counterpoint of this.
In the UK, you cannot have a pointed kitchen knife.
However, if you are a Sikh, you can carry a pointed dagger in public,
openly displayed for all to see, and to stab your neighbor to
death.
Yep.
See, it won't end well.
No, it won't. It won't.
Because all it takes is one person with more intentions to make it in poorly.
And then the protection is that ensues.
And the next problem is going to be that the harder you try to tamp down that reaction,
then you just buy more of it.
Because you prove the point of the reaction.
And this is all something like,
Like, we've talked about before, we talked about, like, insurgencies and global war and everything else.
Like, historically, the problem is that the state only knows how to use force until the problem is solved.
Correct.
And the state has, if not a monopoly on force, a near monopoly on force, because the amount of force they can bring to bear is substantially more than an individual person.
Oh, absolutely.
And using a large amount of force almost guarantees collateral damage.
It does.
And collateral damage is high.
you create more gorillas.
Yeah.
Which I wish our country had learned at some point since Vietnam,
because we seem to repeat that mistake over and over and over.
Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran now.
Great.
Yeah.
I mean, I've said it before.
You know, I'm like, okay, if you smoke one terrorist, hooray,
but if you create three more in the process,
because now everyone's going to want to honor kill you and your people for it,
it's like you're not solving the problem.
No, you're absolutely not solving the problem.
And what's even worse is you can take theoretically innocent, unbiased parties.
Neutral parties.
And create new enemies out of them because of the collateral damage.
I mean, yeah, great.
You bombed the building that the guy was in.
That debris spread out for three city blocks.
Yeah.
And maybe that debris killed somebody small.
Now those three boys, they hate you for life, regardless of what you say.
Well, and if we learn one thing from watching, like, Russia's intervention into Afghanistan, once you kill two whole generations of fighting age men, what you've done is create multiple generations of fatherless young men who are going to be fighting age very soon, who are growing up without any kind of a moderating voice, who are ripe for someone, for any mom or someone else, tell them, the imperialist killed your father, you should get revenge.
Right. Or at the very least, even if they don't have a, they killed your father, you should get revenge. They have nothing. All they have is your father is dead. And everybody wants to know why.
Mm-hmm.
You know it?
Hey, guys, does anybody else want to jump in here this evening?
Tris, do you remember?
Does anybody else want to jump in? Before this night, before this goes on.
Good.
Jump in.
Brian, we're going to swap up for Chris.
Oh, boy.
Oh, boy.
Chris, you got to pop over here to this seat right here.
We got a microphone for you.
And you will have to do the traditional mic check so I can adjust your tone.
You will have to do the traditional mic checks.
The same speech I give everybody.
Whatever distance you're going to be from the mic, do your mic check of that distance.
Because if you might check you out here and then you swallow the microphone.
Chiggity check, I have had too much to drink.
Chiggity check, I have literally had way too much to drink.
Keep talking.
Keep talking.
Say words.
I'm using words.
Words are good.
Words are good.
I'm using the words.
You forgot how to speak English.
Okay.
I think we got to get based on it.
You got Chris Ramble up here.
Yep.
So, Chris.
So far, MLF Summercamp.
Thoughts?
I've had fun, other than all the steps.
Oh my at the steps.
That's exercise.
That's baked in the pot.
This is good for you, sir.
Y'all suckered me into this to get me here.
No shit.
To make me start exercising.
Yes.
You've succeeded.
The whole point of this podcast was fulfilled to make people better.
You've succeeded.
Good job.
Now I have to go home and continue to punish myself.
Did you die?
Do I like?
Did you die?
Oh, did I? Oh, I did not die.
No, still very much alive.
It has a job.
I have not died.
I have not died.
My calves may have died once or twice, but they're fine.
They're still hanging in there.
Caves are an optional accessory.
Not exactly.
Still going to need them.
I watched the guy do an Iron Man with nothing below the knees.
Caves are an optional accessory.
What's the dude?
Oh, God, I keep watching him.
Limbauls.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Oh, God, he is hilarious.
He just proves you can do so much.
This is the one arm and no legs.
This is the one that just has no legs.
And he is hilarious.
So I know that the day yesterday, y'all were, or no, it wasn't yesterday, day before.
I went to saw the beach, had to go through your kid in the pool.
Yes, through the kid in the pool.
That was day, yeah, that was really day one, really, that early that day.
We stayed in the pool for a few hours.
Then yesterday went to the beach and stayed, well, two, three hours down there.
We discovered spring-cooled soda.
Spring-cooled.
Oh, yes, we went down there and the one soda they brought it because it's five miles of straight-up hill back to the car.
We had one soda left and nobody was drinking it.
I was like, there's a tiny stream that comes down right next to the rocks and I'm going over there and it is ice water.
I went over there and stuck the spray can down in the sand and just twisted it and left it sitting right there.
and it's like about an hour later they went back over there
and opened it and it's still pretty darn cold.
Excellent.
I went with the old moonshine trick.
Like the old timers used to.
And then today,
you got your first experience with the first
MOF range day.
That was fun. That was fun.
300 win mag, my first TBI.
It's a moderate TBI at most.
Moderate.
Listen, I have played with
cruise serve weapons.
happens before, but that 300
Wemmag is controlled violence.
It is. She plaques off and you know it
all the way down. I shot
it at almost all of the
stuff in his rifle
case just went. Oh no,
Joseph throws itself all over the range.
All over the place. Because we're just
kind of sitting on top of his case and I brought over
one of my blocks, my phone blocks, and sit at
a point so I'd be up high enough.
Yeah. And it just
oh that thing is
I don't think is nice.
I'm pretty sure I felt my
my brain bounce off both sides of my skull.
Oh, you did.
You did.
I mean, Ryan, it was fun, but I don't ever want to do that again.
You can taste clacking off enough 300.
I still got to put, I still got to check 50 off my list.
338 Lapua would be nice to check off my list.
50 is a cakewalk compared to 300.
Because it's a boom, not a crack.
Yeah, it's a little slower.
I can't tell you, because the last 50 I play with was an M2.
Okay, so I fired a single shot 50, which is about as 5%.
violent as you can get.
Yeah, there's nothing absorbing recoil.
No, no, there's not.
There's really not, except for the muzzle break, which didn't exist.
You can taste copper if you shoot a single shot 50.
After about 10 roams of 300, one meg, you can taste a little bit of copper.
The 16-inch pistol version is what we needed.
The one that blows your dreadlocks back, you know, when you...
Yeah, negative.
The thing about M2 is even though it's on a tripod, because you're going to shoot it on a tripod.
What you are.
But after you rip a whole belt for that thing, it's because there is no muzzle break.
Oh, gosh, no.
And there is no flash hider.
Oh, no, no.
So all you get is just the constant wave of concussion just like thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, in the front of your forehead.
So for those of you that shot of five, five, six, you know that feeling on your eyelids that just feels like a weird flutter when you're clacking off a time?
almost like somebody blows in your face.
In the back of your brain.
You feel that on the backside of your head
with a 50 pound.
It's really what it is.
Yeah.
I encourage everyone,
if you ever get the opportunity
to pull the butterflies on them too,
I encourage you to try it.
But I don't know that I do it regularly if I could help them.
You know, we had a
Northern Illinois machine gun chum.
A few years ago.
I got a chance.
to rip belts of RPK rounds.
Freestanding.
And I told the guy's like,
no, I've shot some big caliber guns.
I'm good.
I was fine.
That RPK wanted a fucking climb.
She wanted to really climb.
Like, I had to switch from an underhanded seat clamp
to an overhand hold down.
She wanted to climb there.
I cannot imagine what...
Have you ever seen...
You definitely have to posture up on the G-Hanging.
Oh, yes.
Yes, you do.
It's not even just get behind it for the recoil, but you have to literally like, roll your shoulders forward, posture up.
Roll your shoulders forward, break the hips, break the knees, brace that, and pull down.
Get most of your weight on your front leg and a blade.
Let it lock you back out of your back front.
You start at the bottom of your target and just let it walk you up.
There will come a day where I get to do at least full auto somewhere.
It will cost me a lot of money and a credit card being laid on a couch.
I'm sure somewhere.
There is some down that way.
Coffeeville technically, but in that
mobile-ish area.
There's a couple in the area.
Get down there, try with the nine.
Because, I mean, I shot the Og full auto,
and that was, I thought, very controlled.
RPK, starting to walk away from him.
the
Philotto P90
oh my god is that fun
and I'm a Stargate fan
so my nerd is coming out
I know it hurt my soul
that there was a P90 there to not shoot
so I paid for three mags
and just did three magdums in a row
on a P90
because why not
you can drop pictures
with a P90
well we know that it will kill
aliens and go through all alien hardware.
It does not matter what it is.
It will kill anything there is except force.
Aliens symbiotes.
It will handle replicators.
Phil, have you not watched enough Stargate?
Stargate was not my show.
Dude, get on.
I've watched some, but I haven't watched like...
I'm such a nerd.
Spaz 12s and P90s are the key winners of the show.
Well, and I really want to say that gun because you shoot somebody three times, they disappeared.
They just disappear. They're gone.
Once to stun, twice to kill, three times to descent.
To dissent gone.
It doesn't matter what you shoot either.
You can shoot a person, a thing.
I want this.
I want one.
It's a rock.
Random house that one time.
All things are possible in the world of sci-fi.
So, Chris, me.
What are you all, you're heading home Thursday, right?
Actually, we're going Friday.
Oh, okay.
Our plan is to go home through mid-south.
The mid-south first, obviously, my wife's like,
we don't have enough room.
I'm like, we have enough room for some powder.
I have enough primers now.
I have enough primers now.
I need powder to match.
The Jack Daniels distillery, because that just seems cool.
That seems cool.
And then, she might have another couple things on the way.
Yeah, well, you know, you got the other half a fun.
What do y'all do for the rest of time you're up here, though?
I think tomorrow I'm going to let you go punish me,
and we're going to follow you up trails somewhere or somebody or some mix of you.
I think, Phil, you're talking mammoth cave?
We were talking mammoth cave.
It's about two hour drive.
Yeah, it's a two-hour drive.
And then when we get back, we're probably going to hit some of the trails around here.
I recommend.
Probably convince her.
to do that.
There's some beautiful little trails around this.
Yeah.
Well, and really what we're looking for,
and the reason we're doing the M.
F.m.C. first is so that if her ankle
starts to herding or Piper starts to get tired,
like we hit some of the small trails here
and not commit to anything really big
where we're all beat up by the angle.
I think the only thing you wouldn't want to commit to
is a certain navigating.
That would be a bit much.
You get four miles around like?
Oh, right.
Don't make me lie.
I know there's a couple of them to a waterfall or something down there.
There's a couple of waterfalls right down there by the beach
and a hiking trail that goes up behind it and through there.
And right now it should really be a waterfall.
I've got a preview of all trails subscription,
so I'll just pull that up and have it find the trails for us.
Well, if you come up past our cabin is for the start of the lake trail is,
and that goes all the way around the lake and back up to these.
Okay.
It's four miles.
Yeah, I think that's four or four to a half.
Yeah
I mean, we're just gonna go
and do and see and
have some fun tomorrow because I know that Thursday
morning we got to pull up
Hibnitz out from the way out
to stop and see some family at Huntsville
and then it's all together
nine hours driving to get home
so like
I think
and I think the plan is to hit
Huntsville for about noon
so like we'll be home like late dinner time
it'll be a sign.
We're aiming for eight-ish
you know, we might be sooner.
Yeah.
But six is eightish, we'll make it home.
I think if we figured if we pulled out
by seven on Friday,
7 on Friday we home by dinner time.
Watch
the board.
Oh, it is true.
No, all the time.
I've never seen that other people.
Yeah, I've never seen.
We have a couple of awkward teenage girls
waving at us from across the table.
Just outside the view of the camera.
Just outside of the camera.
Oh.
This is Pekampi.
No, Pecan pie.
No, I have the Northern accent.
Nick, Nick, Nick.
You're hurting my heart here, please.
I will hurt your heart and hurt your soul.
Pecan pie.
Pecan pie.
It's pecan.
It's wrong.
You gotta put some on.
Puckone.
Puckone.
Puckin.
No.
Pekane.
A pacon.
A pacon.
A pacon.
No.
Pekone. Yeah, if you're just gonna be straight up southern, it's just Pekone pie.
I am not gonna be that southern.
I was born and raised north of the Dixom.
But what happens if you and Rachel ever continue?
Right, Yankees.
What happens if I convince you and Rachel to move down towards us one day?
I mean, at that point, you're gonna have to...
You will have to...
It snows in Louisiana.
Once a fucking...
This jet wagon got nine inches of snow.
I live in.
hour and 40 minutes north that I can still see leaves.
My child was angry.
He pissed and moored the entire time.
Nine inches of snow.
Do you want to know what I did?
I fucking left to work.
Wait, what I did?
But we are not going to go to work.
Okay, but in my defense, two things.
Do you know how far you have to drive from where I live to find snow tires or salt trucks?
Here?
Listen, you can't even buy it.
Tennessee doesn't even have it.
You can't even buy a set of snow tires, but then buy one of the balls of my house.
No, not even close.
We just shut the state down.
We waddle it melts.
We go back to work.
The only, the only say, shut the state down is the thing where I go.
Yep.
I'm just going to go to work.
But again.
We shut the state down.
But again.
Listen, I have went to work during it.
Underpasses are an adventure.
But, we got to teach you, so you have to bring your dad.
No, no, no.
The teacher is the light pole.
And I will teach you how to drive in snow.
Nick, I know how to drive in snow.
It's all the other cuillons that don't.
Well, for sure, they don't.
But I'll teach her daughter how to drive in the snow.
I can teach her that.
I'll have her drifting in the Walmart parking lot.
Listen, I went directly to the mall when I got to Mobile just to drift in the parking lot,
in the camera I was driving.
That is the way you learned how to drive in the north.
Look, you find an abandoned-ass parking lot or a mall that nobody's paying attention to, and you drive sideways as fast as possible.
Until you go into the giant pile of snow and disappear.
No, it's fine.
And they find you in spring.
No, no, you hit that and it's actually kind of an ice wall.
And you bust off your right rear, your passenger side rear tire.
You speak from experience, don't you?
No, no, no.
I watched my buddy Mike do this in the middle sphere.
Second-man experience.
Second-hand experience.
See, I have my friend.
Type two fun.
Type two fun.
Yes, type two fun.
Type one of the fun is when you have fun while you're doing it.
Type two fun is where it sucks while you're doing it, but it's fun to talk about later.
Type three fun is where your buddy pays all the bills and you had fun the entire time.
That's right.
Yeah, I've been the butt of all of those.
Oh, me too, man.
At different times.
So, you guys get snow every couple years.
Yeah, I mean...
You guys get snow most of the years.
We'll get snow sometimes two to three times a year.
Now, it may not stick.
Sometimes we'll get snow two to three times a day, and it will stick.
Not a joke, two to three times a day sometimes.
Oh, no, we're lucky to get snow, like I said.
There are days where we will have a full of snow in the morning and a foot of snow in the afternoon.
With a nice sunny break in between.
Oh, and they would be on the air screaming if...
To Wendy's to get a bird food steel gas if you're elderly, you will die.
It'd be bad.
You wouldn't be able to find milk or bread for 100 miles.
Yes.
All the milk and bread disappears from the southern grocery store.
There are no milk sandwiches to be had during anything.
You cannot make bread pudding without milk and bread.
You can't.
And there's a critical point.
You cannot have milk sandwiches during the snowstorms.
You cannot have milk sandwiches without bread or milk in a snowstorm.
You could have sadness or milk sandwiches.
So let's see if we can dovetail this into a soft landing because we're like an hour and a half.
Good.
And I would like to shut this down and do some more drinking.
We could do an excessive amount of drinking.
I'm up for that because I feel like it's, I'm already later.
Facts want to get in?
You can hop in.
You want me to get out of the way?
You can just sit here and we can hand her a mom.
microphone.
I mean,
this is the y'all.
I don't know how those cords are routed.
That could end.
That worked.
All right, here's my mic test.
Mike test.
Mike test.
Stop.
Testing.
Testing.
Testing.
Testing.
Testing.
Testing.
Testing.
Okay.
I think we're good.
Now, Gillian, I have been threatened with a good time.
And with my wife's good time, listening to raising
values.
You knew it was coming.
For sure.
I mean, it is her favorite podcast.
Yes, it's coming back.
It's coming back.
Not quite sure when yet, but it is coming back.
Probably sometime this summer will do a relaunch episode.
Before fall.
Before I go back to work.
Yes.
Which could be.
in a month and a half.
Yeah.
And hopefully he'll shoot a deer.
Someone needs to harass him.
That's right.
I will harass Phil every week to shoot a deer at Chris's house.
Yeah.
Or shoot a deer in Christmas's house.
One way or another.
I mean, you can shoot a deer from the house.
I've done that in my underwear off the board.
Honestly, Chris, not going to lie.
Awesome.
Love that.
Love that for you.
I mean, no offense, but seeing your underwear, that might have just ruined all
experience for me.
That was my friend.
my brother-in-law.
Yes, I've been out redneck.
My God. Chris, you have to fix this.
You have to shoot it off the toolbox.
I can almost shoot it off the toilet, but in my house you never turn around, so that's like...
Well, as long as you've got a clear line of range demarcation.
And shoot it over the poop.
True.
Don't put a hole in the blue.
That will make your daughter very sad.
So do you want to tell the audience, before we roll out, like, do you want to give them a hint
as to why the show's been on hiatus?
Do we say that for the first showback?
Yeah, I think the first showback is going to be in better detail.
But it's been on hiatus because of a couple of reasons.
I've had some health issues, but before that even started,
I have been having to become the power of attorney for my parents.
My parents have, their health has declined.
There's been some mental health as far as.
I'm concerned, like for me, that needed to be taken care of. So there's been some therapy. There's
been some, you know, parents are in nursing homes now. There's been my physical health with my heart.
So, yeah, so it's been about a good two years. What? It's been about two years since we've been
off the air? I think so. It's been a hot minute. Yeah, this year would be two years November, I believe,
is when my, or January of next year will be two years. Hang on, I'll get it for you.
you there you go um two years this next january where my dad had open heart surgery so and that's when
the snowball started to go downhill that was kind of when things started loading up on you and raising
values got to the point where it was like it it turned from being something fun and a release and
something to offload everything was going on into another task yes it became a job
And I wasn't looking forward to using my Sunday mornings to host a podcast episode or even think about what I was going to talk about.
And then I didn't want to even have to emotionally go there every week.
You need to give yourself time to process.
Right.
Yeah.
And at that point, there was no time to process anything.
No.
No.
No.
You know, I've had a little bit more insight than the rest of the audience.
in sassad. I will say, my God, guys.
Yeah.
My God.
It's serious.
Well, we joke and I think that it's, I think eventually it'll happen, but I'm, maybe I'll
be a New York Times bestselling author one day.
We will push that book.
I do think a book needs to be written.
Personally, I think Piper needs to read the book.
Because, and hear me out, because.
it is a person that does not have the experience that you Gillian have or the outside experience that Phil has.
It's a pseudo third party that knows all the people involved.
Her reactions will be real.
Yeah, but you see, I've tried really hard to shield her from a lot of the stuff.
So I don't know if I want her to...
That is very fair.
But I...
True.
As an audiobook fan, because I'm a truck driver, 99% of the time I'm staring at a bunch of it.
They really are because you get, I think, more out of an audiobook than you do out of a physical book.
Oh my gosh.
It's a TV show in your mind.
It is.
It's a TV show in your head while you're trying not to kill a family of five in a minivan that doesn't know how to use a turn signal.
But, yeah, I mean, it's, it's been a lot on, it's been a lot on all three of us.
Oh my gosh, yes.
We got to the point with Raising Values where, like, we had to start choosing in our lives what we could offload to free.
You have some mental, emotional bandwidth.
And as much as I hate to say, raising some values was it.
It really was, like, that was.
When I started podcasting 10 years ago this August, by the way, so we got to have a discussion about 10-year anniversary coming up.
And we're like this close to 500 episodes, which is also coming up this year.
We do have to do that.
But I'd always said with matter of facts, like, if it turns into another job, I don't think I want to do it anymore.
It's fun.
I love doing it.
And that's what it started turning.
Raising value started turning into.
It was another job for Gillian.
But it was also, I mean, I don't want to say point in contention, but it was turning into a thing with me and her where it was like, this is your show.
You kind of have to tell me what you want to talk about.
And there were weekends where she was so emotionally spent.
I made the topic.
I did the show notes.
I literally like spoon-fetted to her just to get her over the finish line.
There's a lot of that.
It wasn't fair to her.
No, no, it's definitely not.
It wasn't good for the show.
But you know, I have to say, you did a very excellent job.
Well, thank you.
Because as a third-party observer that was not involved in that show,
I could not tell.
So you brought the energy every time.
There was a lot of masking.
And you know what?
Sometimes we need that as an individual.
There are days where I flat out, I feel like going to bed instead of doing matter of facts.
I do because I've had a full day of work, stressful as hell.
The last three weeks, I've been dealing with in times.
I've been trying to not have an intern slice his finger off and a bands off and a bridgeport and a lathe.
Oh, sweet Christ.
This one, this year is good.
Last year we had a gal.
she, I have to say, her level of effort, 100%.
Her physical ability to not die in the shop?
Oh my God, it was close.
It was close.
We could not tell.
You did fantastic.
Oh, great.
Well, I don't think it's going to, it's probably not going to be the same format.
It's going to be, it's going to look a little different, and it made,
It's probably not going to be every weekend.
Sure.
But coming back for sure.
Stewart made us new intro music.
He did.
Yes, he presented it with us to us this weekend.
Grandpa is a composer?
Grandpa used AI.
Well, okay, well, let's be completely honest.
I don't know if I can love this.
Let me tell the story.
Grandpa actually has a friend that writes song.
So he wrote the lyrics and then they put the lyrics into A&A.
and the songs came out.
They came out pretty cool.
It came out pretty cool.
Well, that's fantastic.
I love that.
So, yeah.
So we have new intro music.
That's that stay seeing back, please.
Yep.
So anyway, yeah, that's what's going on with raising values.
And, yeah, I don't have a date yet, but we'll get there.
I got to get this house sold first.
I got to make sure my, there's a lot that still has to be done.
But there's light at the end of the end of the.
tunnel as least as far as my parents are concerned and you know therapy I go to therapy every
week yeah you have to you have to take care of yourself yes you do before you can satisfy all of
our needs to be amused at work right yeah I hate to be that cavalier about it but it's like yeah
look there's only so many radio stations
Chris can listen to.
Yes.
I have a whole lot to talk about.
Every time I told Phil this, every time I come out of therapy, I write down my, what I
talked about in therapy.
So it's going to go into more than just the last two years because now I'm emotionally,
I'm getting more emotionally at peace at my childhood and what happened during my childhood.
And once we catch up.
You at about age 21, 22, when you and I met?
Yeah.
That's when I can kind of start feeding in some of the details that you might have forgotten along the way.
Yeah.
You know I've had this conversation about like you'll start recounting something that happened.
And then I just start beating in all the things you overlooked and forgot about.
From the trauma.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, because two completely different people.
Well, and trauma recesses memory.
I believe that.
And there's a lot of times, even in the last two years where things have happened and Phil will recount.
it and I'm like oh my god I forgot that my mother tried to run me over last year
having a husband he is to carry part of the burden that's true he carries more than part
I'm to carry part of the burden for my wife she's to carry part of the burden for me that is what a
marriage is about it's a partnership to carry the total burden we've also noticed that having an
autistic husband that's really good at pattern recognition yeah that's coming handy a few times
That's true. It's true.
Because she'll recount something, just something.
And be like, oh, yeah, that's kind of like this thing that had that that person did like three years ago.
Three years ago, seven years ago, five years ago.
Yeah.
And I'm just like, how do you even?
Patterns.
You remember that.
There's a reason I'm a machine is probably because of the autism.
Yes.
My mind is like an old 1980s Linux machine that's just barely chugging along.
And then every once in a while, the process are overcame.
clocks itself to 3,000% and does
Supercomputer stuff. What you're saying is
you needed to print every
incidence of this object.
And it prints every
incidence of this object
all 37 pages.
Yeah.
One of these days we actually need
to get Eddie back on the show.
We need to get Eddie on raising values
to talk about neurodivergence
as a whole topic.
We need to get Eddie on MLF
to talk about neurodivism related to
prepper. Because my Christ, every single person I have met that is a prepper. Got a little tickle
of a ticillotism. Tickle of the ticillotism or a tickle of ADHD. Or a hell of a lot of both.
Hell, hell of a lot of both does tend to happen. Look, man, my attention is not deficient in very
specific circumstances. Look, the number of neurotypical preppers I've met very little.
Very few.
Very few.
And usually there are people that have experienced a severe emergency.
At least twice.
Yeah.
It takes hitting them in the head twice.
It seems.
Well, it is 10 o'clock at night.
I guess we'll go ahead and cook this one off.
This has been the fifth.
We had this debate the other day.
We thought we missed one.
Fifth camping trip.
Yeah, the fifth, matter of facts, summer camp.
Mm-hmm.
I always forget before we do this, how many camp to count how many campers we have.
This year we had 15.
15?
Yeah.
I'm just glad I made it this time and it gets squistery.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, stay away from the FedEx trucks and you'll be right.
That's true.
Do not be behind FedEx trucks back enough.
You don't need, listen, you don't need a triple ground.
You're a federal insurance policy.
Even better.
I'm sure you put all of our bonds.
You're too well trained.
They stop.
Oh, God, that's a problem.
God.
My FedEx driver was high.
Oh, well, that is out nice.
But yeah, 15 campers,
four or five days of fun,
depending on when everybody got in and went out.
Jesus only knows where we'll be next year,
but we'll figure it out.
We are going to have a discussion tonight as soon as we wrap,
and we will figure something out,
and I will post it on Patreon so that the patrons know what...
In all selfishness, I don't know if I've been picked up,
But in all selfishness, I need y'all to have it on the North Shore.
Because that one's really close.
No.
No, that was played out far.
My neck of the woods, right?
Yes, his neck of the woods, yes.
Because that's not bad for me, because I've got a halfway stop at my mother's and then rest.
I'm good, good.
Well, we've got to keep your mother happy.
Well, Gillian and I have discussed doing this in our neck of the woods.
There's a state park a mile and a half from our house.
They have for really nice cabins.
Phil, I will drive down
that far.
I will.
I mean, I'm always...
Okay, to be fair.
There's a Civil War iron clad
about an hour and a half from there,
so I'll drive down that far either way.
Even though I absolutely do not want to go to New Orleans,
the D-Day Museum is worth going.
Yes.
It's expensive, but I so want to go.
And if y'all go, I'll go.
The D-Day Museum is 100% worth it.
I don't know.
We'll have a discussion here in a minute
and, like, see what the group consensus
is a serious discussion
of unsuperful. I would have no problem
I think part of the... Oh yes.
That's just not going to...
You're going to be the sober.
Mom is the only one here.
Mom is going to keep us sewing, I think.
Four decisions.
All right. Well, Matterfakes are going out
the door. Phil, Nick,
Brian, Chris,
Gillian. I chose
the crew in the background that you can
probably have a hard time with the audio.
Yeah. Probably.
Matter of fact.
Let's do this.
Hey.
Yeah.
Hey, everybody.
Give a wave.
Everybody, give a wave.
Give a wave to the YouTube's.
We got a bunch of people up in here.
They got really quiet because suddenly we could see their voices.
He waited until I got well lubricated before he stuck me over here.
Look, Chris, we got to get you motivated and lubricated.
Motivated, lubricated.
Okay.
I'm still going to make the pack of cigarettes with the.
Ruby Rich.
We do need to have a shirt.
We're got to do that one.
All right.
Well, we'll go and pump this one out the door.
There's pecan pie and sweets and booze that I need to help myself to.
And I apologize for the audio quality.
You get what you get when it's outside of the studio.
We're kind of half outside of a cabin in the middle of the woods.
Yeah.
It's kind of like that.
And my neighbors are kind of sketchy.
Yeah.
Oops.
But I will just say.
this much. If you didn't
make it out to this one and you are a patron,
then hopefully next year
you'll be able to make it out. If you're not a patron,
this is one of the few perks you get
are then supporting sociopathie
and bad financial decisions.
Is you get to...
Good financial decisions and talking to fill into a
12 gauge. Yes, but at this point I have
the night vision and the 12 gauge.
Three shit, I need to buy the night vision.
338 Lapua. No,
I'm buying no 3.38 Lapua until we
get him night vision.
Wait, what grade in night vision?
Anything, anything,
anything but frigging cheap Chinese digital
was going to run you two and a half stacks.
Yeah, that's fair.
And you and I both know that you've got to buy the
mount and the light and the helmet's graham.
I have an old school helmet.
I have the helmet. He's already got a helmet.
Old school though. Okay. He's already got
an ACH. Okay, Sugar Daddy Trump bucks,
paid for the helmet.
ACHIH eye cuts
with the mount, with the rent amount.
I'll have to buy all the bounce.
I know that's expensive.
So you got all stuff, why haven't you got a night vision yet?
Because I'm trying to pay for a garage so I can build all kinds of stupid shit.
But I am fighting with the goddamn county.
Save it for next episode.
Oh, my God.
I got to talk to another lawyer, a third lawyer.
Oh, God.
All right.
Matter of fact is going out the door.
Goodnight everybody.
Goodbye.
Stay out of trouble.
Get in trouble.
See you in the other week.
Bye.
Night.
They woke all her.
I've never heard of her bath.
I've never heard about it.
