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Episode Date: July 16, 2026

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The Bokane Valley could become a sanctuary city of a different kind. The councilman Caleb Collier says that this proposal is a city of Spokane Valley issue of proclamation stating that our city is a Second Amendment sanctuary. Today on Church and State, Brooke Shirley reports the news. Hello Christian Patriots and welcome to Church and State where we drive morality and religion over tolerance and apathy. And I'm your host, Caleb Collier, once again, your favorite far-right shock jock. And the show that talks about politics and religion, Jesus Christ is our referee. So it's always nice. clean. Real quick, point you to the website, church and state. Media. Fill out this form,

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and the Republic that we love. Brooke, thank you for joining us on Church and State. Thank you so much for having me on. Yeah, it's a real pleasure. I've been following you and your son's work for some time, as has many conservatives in America. What brought you to, you know, just being a mom, you know, maybe with some belief systems, but realizing I got to get out there and do something. Yeah. Well, it was mainly during COVID when we had the pandemic going on. And I actually went to January 6th with Nick. Nick was going to go. He was just right out of high school. And he thought he was just going to go there and make this video and leave. And I said, but you know what, maybe I better go with you and I can rent the car.

I'll drop you off at the rally. I'll go shopping and then I'll come back and pick you up. That's literally what I thought I was going to do. Quickly, I learned that that was not going to happen. So I did go to January 6th. I was there at the rally. I thought it was a wonderful patriotic day. I just thought the people that are around me right now,

these are the people that are the warriors that are going to stand up and fight for our country. Nick went there to make a video acting like he was security and he was going to get to the front row and see Donald Trump on stage, which he did. Nick has been making YouTube since he was 15 years old, so making these types of videos was no big thing to me. Anyway, I went to January 6th. I walked down the street with Nick going towards the Capitol, and then I turned and went a different direction because I was done. I'd been there for seven hours, no bathrooms, no nothing, so I was done. And I said, I'm going back to the hotel. On my way, going to the hotel, I spoke with one police officer that was on a horse, told me President Trump was going to drive down Pennsylvania Avenue.

Then I talked to two other officers that were sitting in their car. I'm looking at their phone. When I got to the hotel, the front desk ladies were saying, oh, my gosh, look what's going on to the Capitol. They showed me their phone. And this man sitting on Nancy Pelosi's desk with his feet on the desk, and they said it was like a war zone down there. and I thought, wait, I was just there. Everyone on the subway with me said this was the best day of their life,

and now what has happened? And then I thought my son is down there. What's going to happen to Nick? Nick comes back hours later, so excited that he made the best video in the world. It's going to go viral. This is going to make him huge. And I said, son, this is going to put us in jail. Our house is going to be burned.

Dad is going to lose his job. And you cannot post that video. After that day and watching what I saw, what I saw in the news, being reported and what as I talked to people it really started make start me made made me question what was going on and I have it I studied journalism in college I wanted to be a broadcaster I had a passion for it and I thought you know what I'm going to use my voice and I'm going to talk about what's going on and at that time Joe Biden had become president and he opened up our border I grew up in San Diego

California I knew what an open border was what was happening was not an open border it wasn't the Mexicans coming over to work in the to work you know it was not that and since 2020 i literally became obsessed with what was happening and every day and every night i would quickly watch mainstream media like cnnn bc a bc good morning america particularly see what they were talking about and then i would find points that they were totally missing and it was pretty easy because they were not talking about the bad things Joe Biden was doing. And at that time, I honestly, I didn't even know who Tucker Carlson was. I didn't know Fox News. I didn't know nothing. I was just a mom raising five children, concerned

about what was going on in our schools, what was going on with COVID, what was going on with our open border and how Joe Biden was literally changing in America. And I became obsessed with the open border. And leading up to that, Nick, Nick was doing his YouTube. He did post the video from the January 6th, it totally ruined his channel, and he began to see, like, something is going on here. How can we can't talk about Trump? How can we can't talk about the pandemic? And if we do, we're literally shut down. And so he went on, he, he wasn't political at all. He just started noticing this. And he continued to make YouTube. And then he went away for a mission for our church for two years. While he was on his mission, he went to Chile. I was home becoming Brookerty Jones.

and obsessed with the open border and what was going on in Joe Biden. And then when Nick came home from his mission, on his mission, he would tell me how all these people from Venezuela were going to Chile. And why were all these people leaving their country? And I said, son, the same thing is happening here, but it is worse.

So he came home December 2023. He went to a turning point event just to make a video because he still wanted to do YouTube. And he thought, you know, I can't be making these prank videos. I need to get a little more serious now. So he went to Turning Point and he didn't even know, he didn't know Charlie Kirk, he didn't know nothing about it. He just went to make a video. And that was in Arizona. And I said, go to Lukeville, Arizona and start videotaping people as they're coming across the border. And that's what he did.

And that was December, 23. He posted that video just a couple days after Christmas, the people coming across, and it went massive. And the people that he met at the border, they were sent to New York City. Once they got to New York, they were calling Nick and asking him, what do we do now? Like, what should we do? And so we said, we're going to New York City, and we are going to see where these people are at. And January 24, we were in New York City, going to the shelters, the hotels, the Port Authority, the train station, where all the migrants were coming in. And our life has not stopped since then. Every week, we've been in different parts of America, different parts of the world covering what is taking place here. And as a mom and as a concerned American, I just

couldn't sit back any longer and let our fake media lie to us. I couldn't do it. And I thought, I'm just one person, but I have a voice, but I knew my son Nick Shirley, I knew he could do it. You know, what I love about your story is, you know, you're, you're just, you're an American, you know, you're just an average American, you know, you've got a pretty deep. and you saw some wrongs, some ills in the world, and you're like, I can't just sit back here. I can't just yell at my television, go and vote every two or four years, and expect something different to happen. I'm going to go out there and I'm going to make a difference.

I want every American to follow your lead on this. Yeah, that's how I felt. I just felt like we can't just sit back. We can't sit back and be stepped upon. Our kids can't go to school and feel bad because they were born in America and they're Christian and they're white. They can't feel bad about it. My husband can't lose his job because he's an American dad trying to provide for his family, but he doesn't fall into these different categories, you know? It was just like, what is happening? And we're all too afraid to say anything about it,

and we're all too afraid to stand up. And so I just said, I have to stand up. It was just, I feel like God just gave me this to a voice, and he said, go use it. And Nick, you know, he'd been making YouTube since he was 15. He can edit. He can make incredible videos. I cannot do that. But while he was on his mission, I had everything in my brain because I'd been so focused on it and studying up on. And I just knew everything that was going on.

So the two of us together were able to use our skills and go attack it. And it's been amazing. Nick now, you know, knows everything that's going on in America. But at the beginning, we both needed each other. to make this go. Sure. Yeah, that makes absolutely sense. Let me ask you this.

Do you think Nick's political journey that his mission trip in Chile was part of that? I mean, Chile has a really interesting history with the freedom movement and then ultimately we all kind of watched as it crumbled. But do you think being down there actually assisted in how he viewed politics? Yeah, I think it did play a little bit of a part in it because while he was, in Chile, they were having elections, and like the people were upgrade, you know, they were up in an uproar about it. They were afraid of the people that were being elected and how it's going to change their country. And then in particular, the Venezuelans that were coming in.

And to him being, you know, just a 19-year-old teenager, seeing these people just leaving their country and leaving everything to come to Chile. But then once they got to Chile, the Chileans, they weren't happy about the Venezuelans coming. And the Venezuelans couldn't work. It was just like this one, he's just wondering, like, what is happening? What is going on? And he started realizing that political leaders actually do make a huge difference in our world, a huge difference.

And they can either make it or they can break it. And if you have followed Nick, he did some things really cool. He went to El Salvador and he showed how a good, president can change a country. And I have another son who served a mission in El Salvador when it was gang controlled. And so him and Nick went back together and showed how a good president can change a country. Yeah, I mean, that is such a great point right there, El Salvador, which I mean, it was on the U.S. government's list of countries of do not travel here because of how dangerous it was.

Yeah, the most dangerous place in the world. Yep, exactly. And now through different leadership, it's become quite a spot. I mean, as far as like conservatism, going back towards more nationalism, punishing crime, like it's a very safe country now. Who would have thought? Yeah, it's safer than here. It's safer than here because of a good leader, a good leader who has morals, who has common sense, who wants safety for their citizens.

Because in El Salvador, when my son lived there, if your grandma lived two streets over, you couldn't go and visit your grandma because a different gang controlled that area. So you were literally stuck on your street, in your neighborhood. It was very, very awful what was going on because the gangs controlled it. And that could happen here in America. It does. Some cities in America are gang controlled. Absolutely they are. So let's move into the corruption because so much of your work is devoted to exposing corruption. You and your son. Obviously, everybody knows what Nick Shirley was able to reveal to the public

with the corruption that was going on with the system and some of these immigrants who are getting money for services that they were not actually providing. Is this just something that you believe the corruption is systemic to the United States now? Can you say that again? Do I believe the corruption is what? Systemic to the United States now.

Yes. There's massive amount of corruption in the United States. And as Nick and I have been doing this for the past few years, it's mind-blowing to me the amount of corruption that is going on in our state and in our country. And if people actually knew the amount of corruption, they would, their minds would be blown. It's disgusting. It's disgusting.

And so much of it has been brought on literally by politicians, because the politicians benefit from the corruption. Yeah, absolutely. Can you give us a few examples? I mean, you make the statement that Americans would be just insanely upset about the amount of corruption. But can you give us a few examples, maybe pick a few states where the corruption is at the highest level and give us a few examples for the audience? Well, let's just talk about Minnesota, what was going on in Minnesota. When Nick and I went to Minnesota, we went last June.

and we made a video there on how the country is being changed, or not the country, the state is being changed because of the Somalian population, which is huge there, and it's overtaking, and Christianity is, in some of these small towns in Minnesota, Christianity isn't there anymore, because the Lutheran churches, the Presbyterian churches, the Mormon churches, they've been replaced with mosque.

They're turning to the mosque now. The Safeway is now like a grocery store you'd see in Somalia. You know, the town has completely changed. So we went there to cover that and to see what was going on. And that is when we were introduced to the fraud. I knew a little bit about defeating our future fraud. I didn't know that much. But part of this corruption in Minnesota, let's say Minneapolis,

in order to win a government position like Elon Omar, I asked the Muslims, I said, how was she even, how do you guys vote for her? How do you support her? She doesn't even support your values. And this one boy told me he's a Muslim and he said, you know, Elon Omar, she doesn't support our values. We don't support same-sex marriages. We don't support the whole trans movement.

You know, we have different things that we support in our religion. She doesn't support that. Or, you know, she goes against what we believe. But the Somalians will vote for her because every Somalian is going to vote the same. they all vote together and they're going to vote for her because she supports them. Even though she doesn't support their religion, you know, she goes against what they believe, but she will support them. Saying supporting them, a lot of this fraud allegedly, which I believe, will be traced back to her.

So even like Jacob Frey and Keith Ellison and Governor Tim Walz, you know, There's no way that they could not have known what was going on, that they kept it going because that group of people, the Somalians, they're all going to vote in the same block, therefore they're going to vote for them. So just like in Minnesota, you know, the daycares, we go and there's no kids there in these daycares. I did a story last night. There's one daycare. I think it was called Minnesota Best Daycare.

$3.4 million it made last year, 127 children. You know, how does a daycare make $3.4 million? Well, a lot of the daycares, if you go back to the funding, a lot of these daycares donated right straight to Tim Walts' campaign. You know, so they need this corruption, just like in California, this homeless corruption that's going on. You know, $24 billion just somehow disappeared.

Well, who's running all these NGOs? Most of all these NGOs are related to the politicians. You just have to do a little bit of research. And it's all like a tangled web. And this tangled web has to keep going because they're all involved in it. And that's why they don't want to ever lose their power. Because once they do lose their power, that web might unfold a little bit. Sure.

There's a lot of corruption going on. Oh, yeah. And they prey on the innocent. Yeah, they both certainly do. They prey on children, elderly, and homeless people. Yeah, they're being used. I mean, that's what you're pointing out with these Somalians, is they are absolutely being used. And once they don't have a purpose for them anymore, they'll be taken care of.

And what you're talking about, too, you brought up a really interesting point centered around the red-green access. You know, you've got these communists that are in power, political power in the United States. and that's what they are. They're communist, ladies and gentlemen. But they're using this green axis, the jihadist, Islam, for a purpose here. And I mean, Carlos the Jackal, I've talked about this before on my show, Carlos the Jacko, the infamous Muslim terrorists, said that only a red-green access, the communists and the Islamists, can defeat the West. And that is what's happening in states like Minnesota. Yeah, it's happening. Like people need to wake up. People need to wake up. And we've been to the United Kingdom many times covering what's going on there.

It's massively going on there. And they're in their government. Now they have leadership positions. And people warn us. They're like, don't let what happened to the United Kingdom happen in America. Because if we lose America, like we've lost it all. So, you know, they're telling us, we're warning you. This can happen.

We're warning you. You guys need to do something about it. But we have people that keep. voting these type of people in just like in New York City you know how did a Zorm and Donnie become the mayor of that city it's very it's very frightening and I think a lot of like college students a lot of the younger generation think oh well we're just being kind you know we we accept everybody and we love everybody and and it's okay but yeah it's it's great to be kind to love and

accept everybody but there they totally go against our country, you know, and our values. And it soon can just slip away just like it's happening in Minnesota, you know? Sure. I mean, if you would have told me, I was in the Marine Corps when 9-11 occurred. And if you would have told me that New York City would elect a, a Marxist jihadist as their mayor, you know, some 20-something years later, I would have laughed at you. And I think most of the American public would have laughed at you. If you go to Minneapolis and you're on a plane and you're looking over and you see nothing but people in Burkas loading the luggage onto the plane and you're like, wait a minute,

aren't we still in the war on terror? Like, and these are the people responsible for the baggage that they're loading on the plane. Like, is that a problem? Do we see a problem here? Yeah, I know. It's very frightening. It's very frightening. But as, as America, we've been so gracious to these people and we've been.

We've let them come in and we've literally taken care of them. And in the meanwhile, they're just planning to, they're infiltrating into everywhere and changing America. You know, we're based on Christian values. We're a country that's so strong in 250 years because of great people who've built our country with freedom. Yeah, you're absolutely right. I mean, the Founding Fathers, obviously they were, they were word about this so many times

about their creator, the architect, they're all pointing to God. They got this idea of a Republican form of government from the book, well, from Exodus. And then, you know, I mean, that's, that is our roots as Americans. We examine the population that's coming in now. They really are, I think it's fair to say, foreign invaders. Many of them are adhering to Sharia law, which is like oil and water with the Constitution. And they put a bigger emphasis on Sharia law versus is our Constitution and the rights that are, well, I never want to say they're constitutional rights because they're God-given rights, but I think you know what I mean. Yeah.

Yeah, it'll totally change our country if we don't take control of it and if people don't wake up. Yeah, you know, as I travel this country myself, I see once great cities, and you've been traveling a lot more than I have, but I see once great cities that are in decay. And I see a culture that doesn't appreciate the architecture, the buildings that have gone up, you know, some, in some cases, you know, a century before. And I see people that will defecate on the streets. Sorry to be crass here, but this is what's going on. They'll use the local river as a bathroom. You know, you've got homeless people all over the place doing drugs and just passing out and using sidewalks as their homes.

this is this is a country that's in decay not thriving no it's not thriving and nick and i like we have been to so many big cities here in america let's just take seattle for example you're in spokane washington i'm sure you've been to Seattle a lot we used to live in the Seattle area i used to take my kids there all the time yes there were homeless people but it was homeless people like if you gave them a bag of clothes and blankets and shampoo and stuff they were so grateful for for it. Now, Seattle, Washington, the homeless people, they're homeless, but they're not like the old school homeless people. These are people that are strung out on drugs. Even if you gave them a bag of clothes or something, they wouldn't care about it. All they care about is getting drugs. If you go to

Seattle, Washington, a beautiful, beautiful city. Once you get above Pike's Place, I've done a video on it. every it's about every maybe you could go oh i don't even know the ratio but every building you go to it's empty there's no shopping there anymore Nordstrom's still there everything is empty there's nowhere to eat cheesecake factories left you know what what's big city does a cheesecake factory leave in not that often Seattle Washington it is gone Seattle Washington is dead because they've allowed the criminals the people on fentanyl, the drug addicts, the drug dealers, the people who are pooing and peeing on the street, to rule that street. Rule. The only smell that you smell in Seattle, Washington is urine or feces, or you smell the smell after the power washers have came

through and washed the streets off. And I'm not exaggerating at all. It is a shame what is going on in Seattle, Washington, a shame. And Seattle, Washington, just like in California, you could go into a store and I talked to some security guards that are standing outside of stores, you can still have to $900 worth stuff and just walk right on out. And the security guards won't stop you. And the criminals know that. That's why there is no shopping left in Seattle, Washington. Yeah, I mean, it makes absolute sense. Yeah, you bring up a really interesting point about the homeless population because there was a time where, yes, people were homeless, but they would go and they would go be a day laborer, you know, and go back and have that money and

eat with it. And they were appreciative of any handouts that were given. And many of them were trying to go, especially through more of the Christian organizations, go to these missions that would help them, assist them, get them their GED, for example, so they could be productive members of society. But the homeless now is a whole other class, and you pointed that out so well. They're entitled. they don't care about anything other than their next fentanyl hit,

which is one of the most tragic things to ever see. You see somebody on fentanyl, and I'm a former EMT. It literally destroys not only a person, but the family as well. Yeah, the fentanyl has taken over, and it destroys you. And if you walk in any big city in America, you will see people that literally don't even have their limbs anymore because the fentanyl has eight in a way at their legs, or they'll have these big, huge, open, raw flesh, big open wounds because of what the fentanyl has done to them.

And they don't care. All they care about is getting their next fix. And in Seattle, Washington and in other cities, the drug dealers are standing on the corner giving them the drugs. And the police have been taken out of the whole situation. They just have, like, I don't know the correct name right now. I can't think of it, but it's like a social worker literally just walking around and passing out water, bottles, granola bars, and Narcan. So if someone, you know, is dead, they're going to give them a little sniff of Narcan

and bring him back to life. And that has replaced the police in big cities all over America. Yeah, you're absolutely right. And once again, as a former EMT, I can tell you that the, the Narcan, while it does its job, the fentanyl is actually stronger. And so one dose of Narcan, yeah, you'll bring them back. And ladies and gentlemen, it's literally like bringing somebody back from the dead. And typically they're mad at you because you took away their high.

I've definitely been swung on a number of times working on the ambulance, but the fentanyl will take back over and oftentimes they'll drop right back down and be in the same position. Oh yeah, right back down in the same position. My son did a video in Kensington, Philadelphia. It is probably one of the best videos he's ever done and just out there walking around Kensington, Philadelphia with all the drug addicts and talking to them. I've been to Kensington, Philadelphia myself. it's very, very bad. But Seattle, Washington is right up there with being bad. San Francisco, L.A., San Diego, San Diego, a beautiful, like San Diego, San Diego.

San Diego, I grew up in San Diego. Downtown San Diego, beautiful. Not so beautiful anymore. It is awful what has happened in America. Yeah, you're absolutely right. I was born in San Francisco. I used to love that city. I went to boot camp in San Diego.

San Diego used to be one. one of my favorite spots to travel to. My wife absolutely loves it there, but not so much anymore. It's scary. You don't want to go downtown. We're actually coming up on a hard break, but I want to make sure people follow you. You're all across all the different social medias under Brooker T-Jones. It's Brooker-O-O-O-K-E-E-Jones.

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one of these shows. I say this a lot. I don't want to be one of these doom and gloom shows. I want to talk about hope, how we can actually fix things. And I know you got some ideas on this. Yeah, that is one important thing, because if we don't have hope, then everything is gone. Like, we need to have hope. And I have hope in America. I believe we are going to stay a strong nation. And I have hope in our youth. And this, I'll talk about Nick for a second here. This is why I thought with Nick, it was so important for him to be a voice for the young generation. I said to my son, I said, you know what, you can reach people. I could get out there and say as loud as I wanted to, get on a soapbox and say this, people aren't going to pay attention to me. I said, people will pay attention to you.

You can get the young generation. The young generation is our future. If we don't have hope in our young generation, I don't know what is going to become of America. And Nick, was able to reach the youth. He has people coming up to him in the grocery store all the time and saying, hey, because of you, I changed the way I think about politics. Because of you, I knew that we had an open border. They didn't know that Joe Biden was flooding our country full of illegal immigrants, but because of Nick getting out there and showing what was taking place in America, it opened their eyes. Because of you, we've had people reach out to us that Nick has interviewed their child on the street, strung out on fentanyl. You know, because of you, I saw my child. We were in Eugene, Oregon,

and we were speaking to one of the homeless youth there. His mom was watching the live stream. His mom saw his son on Nick's live stream. So because of Nick being able to do what he's done, he's brought hope to America, and he's opened up people's eyes as to what is happening. And I think it's made a whole generation think, we need to step up. We need to protect our country. We need to protect our children. We need to do something about what they're being taught in school. We can't just sit back and let this happen, you know?

Our kids are being indoctrinated at school. You know, he spoke out about college, what children are, what young adults are learning in college, what the professors are doing, you know. So we as a community, like I said, it's just us. But it's just you who's ever watching this. And if you don't have a voice, if you don't stand up for what you believe in, you're going to fall. We all have to stand up for what we believe in and we have to stand up for our country. Because in 250 years from now, what is our country going to be?

We built this amazing country in 250 years, you know? We can't let it fall. So together we have to have hope in our future and we have to have hope in our country. and simply just be the best person you can be. Go out every day. Try to be kind to people. Open a door for someone. Let people know they're loved.

That's the best way you can be an American. It's just to love people. And I feel like when we're on the streets interviewing people that are strung out on fentanyl or when we're down at the border and we're seeing people come through, I still feel love for them because they're a human being, you know? And they want a good life. And you want to help people.

But our government officials, so many of them are just taking advantage of the most vulnerable people. And if you truly want to do something, you need to get out and vote. You need to not think your vote doesn't matter. You need to vote for good people in your community because that's where it starts. And people need to know that because we are America right now. We're the future of America and we're raising the future of America. and we have to be good examples to them so America can stay a strong country. Amen to that.

You know, I was listening to what you were saying there, and some of the more radical left will throw the accusation out there that people like us were filled with hate. And I was paying attention. I didn't hear a lot of hateful words coming out of your mouth there. I heard a lot about love, about love for the people who are suffering, about wanting to hold people accountable that are taking advantage of the vulnerable. So yeah, I think those accusations fall on deaf years.

I also so appreciate what you said about the youth. Because there's always been generational differences. And I'm Gen X myself. You know, the baby boomer generation looked at my generation. And they were like, get off my lawn. You know, it's all you guys with your grunge rock. And, you know, you're so apathetic about everything. I did view the millennial generation with that same type of mindset.

Like these guys, what are they doing? They're wrecking things. That being said, this next generation, the Gen Z and even coming into the Gen Alpha, I see a radical transformation here. These kids are rejecting things. They're getting off of social media. They're getting rid of their smartphones. They're going back to flip phones, which is wild to me.

And they're looking towards more orthodox beliefs. They're starting to go into more of the mainline Protestant churches. This is all really exciting news for me. Yeah, it's exciting news for me, too. I believe there's just getting back to the word hope, I was going to say, I believe there's hope. I truly believe there is hope, and I believe that we sat back for a little bit. We all got a little bit soft, we all got a little bit comfortable sitting in our couches, you know, and now it's like, whoa, we can't be that anymore.

We can't just sit back and let this happen. We have to stand up. You're absolutely right. I have faith and I have hope in our young generation that is coming. up. Yeah, I do too. I mean, a lot of them are rejecting the colleges. You know, they're in I actually, when you were talking about your son there, I used to work for Turning Point. So I was probably at that event that he went to working at. But, you know, Charlie Kirk did something where he was, he was getting the youth to start rejecting these, these colleges that were just peddling communism and,

and honestly, Satanism. So you're seeing people move into the trades and everything. This is exciting for me as well because if we get a whole bunch of tradesmen, guess what they like to do? They like to build. And that's exactly what this country needs. Yeah, we do. We need tradesmen. We can't have lazy kids hanging out, you know, or kids going to college for 20 years. It's like, what are you doing going to college for 20 years? And then they think we're going to pay for it. You know, the government's going to pay for them to go to college. And I hate to be little college or anything. People should go to college if they'd like to be something great, you know, like a doctor or a lawyer, whatever.

but seriously think about the trade schools think about them get a trade we need we need people with trades and we have dealt a lot with college campuses and a lot with college students and the things that come out of these college kids mouth it just it it is mind-blowing to me and I think well yeah yeah professor's teaching you that but that professor has been a professor for 50 years relying on these kids to you know it's yeah so schooling in america we that needs a little bit of a redo oh definitely this is why i always encourage uh my audience uh you know look private schools homeschools co-ops there's a lot of different options out there but get your kids out of public education because it's it's not the school that you into as a kid seriously um let me ask you this as well you know somebody

that travels a lot and we are fast approaching the midterms and uh you know this this election is going to have some consequences. What do you see? Is there going to be a red wave, a blue wave, something in the middle? I pray there's a red wave. I pray there's a red wave. But as we speak to people all over America, it goes both ways. It was just like during the election, you know, I was, I was afraid. I was like, oh my gosh, we talked to so many people. They want Harris to win. You know, and it was mind-blowing to me. So you talk to people, they go both ways. So I just, pray that we can hold on. And I'm telling everybody how important it is. So many people think, oh, my vote doesn't matter. My vote doesn't matter. And we saw what just took place in L.A.,

you know, that was really crazy there. But I believe we need to pass the SAVE Act. It is so important that we have to show ID before we vote. We did a whole video on voter fraud in California and people that are 120, 126 years old that are still voting, you know, we need to clean up our voter rules and we need to pass the Save Act. And I hope and I pray that the people in charge of our country will stand up and pass the Save Act so we can have fair elections. Yeah, you know, I was actually going to ask you about this. You know, serious question here.

Why do people that, you know, hit 120s, 126 in this case, why do they always? always vote Democrat? Is it like this, this progression of once you hit this certain age, you're just like, I'm a Democrat now. Yeah. Well, I just think it's magically they're just, someone told me the other day, and don't, don't go look this up or anything, but if you think about LA, this election, I think they're still counting votes. So they can go through like voter rolls and see or areas. Well, who didn't vote here? Oh, Mrs. Sarah, Mrs. Sarah Smith, who's 126 years old, she's still receiving a ballot, but she didn't vote.

Well, let's just, you know, check it off here. So it's really important that we pass the Save Act. It's just common sense. We have to use an ID to go, you know, I had to show my ID to get a badge, or I went through the airport today. I can't go through the airport without my ID. You know, so how can we just do the most important thing

in America and not have to show an ID to prove who we are? And if we did prove who we are, and if they did see our birth date, they would see that Mary Smith that's 126 years old, she's really 76 years old. And they could clear it up just that quickly. We did a whole video on that going to people who are 126 years old. We went and knocked on their doors and asked if they lived there. And they said, well, yeah, this is me, but I'm not 126 years old.

And I didn't vote in 20 elections. Sure. Yeah. There's a lot of stuff going on. If you're 126, you know, maybe contact, you know, again, this book of world records. That might be your move right there. Exactly.

Yeah, they've lived a long life. They certainly have. It'd be so easy to clean up, clean up our voter rolls if we did have to show exactly who we are and show exactly our birth date. Absolutely. And if you're 126, don't vote Democrat. I'm just going to throw that out there for you. Last question for you.

And then I'll let you go. I want to be cognizant of your time. But you're down at Freedom Fest. And you've been down there. You just got down there, actually. But you've been able to walk around. Tell the people, you know, I mean, obviously it's a little late now, but, you know, this is an annual event. Why they should come to Freedom Fest next year.

You should come to Freedom Fest because coming to events like this, it makes you feel alive. It makes you feel like, oh my gosh, there's people who are just like me. There's people who support what I support. There's good people. You feel comfortable. You feel loved. You feel like you go up and just hug someone, shake their hand. They're going to like you.

want to have a conversation with you. It's just a really great feeling. And it's literally like going to church. It just gives you that uplift that you need. And it makes you want to go out in public and talk to people to tell them, to inform them of what's going on. So it's just a great feeling. And coming to things like this, it just gives me, it's just, it is like going to church. You just get like a boost of energy that I can do this. Like I'm going to be a freedom fighter. I'm going to fight for America. I'm going to fight for my children and my grandchildren so that America can stay the great place that it is. I think that's really well said. You know, Freedom Fest is an interesting mixture.

You know, it's Republicans, conservatives, libertarians. So it's not just your standard, you know, MAGA event. There's going to be some conflicting ideas, some interesting ideas. But I'm all for that. I'm all for independent thought and listening to different voices. So I'm excited to get down there and meet with you personally. And I really appreciate you coming on the show. been a fantastic interview. Once again, I'm going to point everybody to your social medias.

Chris will bring that up for the X. But let me get it right. Let me see. Brooker T. Jones right there. Brooker T. Jones. You can see it on X. You can find her on TikTok, Instagram, Facebook. I'm not sure if I asked you about Facebook, but I assume you're on there as well. Yes, I am on Facebook. Okay. So there you go. That's how you follow this incredible woman and all the work that she's doing. Once again, it's been a pleasure having you on the show. Thank you for all that you're doing here and the work you're doing and coming on the show. Thank you. And thank you for what you're doing too.

Absolutely. We're all in this together. Amen to that. We are. We got to fight together. That's for sure. Otherwise, we're going to lose this country. Yeah.

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