The Prepper Broadcasting Network - Church and State - Defender Shield with Daniel DeBaun

Episode Date: August 20, 2026

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effect of exposure from mobile devices such as laptops, tablets, and cell phones. This is definitely right in my wheelhouse. He's the engineer, founder, and chairman of the board for Defender Shield. Daniel, it is a pleasure to have you on Church and State. Caleb, thanks so much for inviting me today. I'm looking forward to chatting with you, of course, and with your audience. So let's start. Yeah, without a doubt, right off the bat, you know, there's a big concern here from a number of people that, you know, these cell phones that we're carrying around in our pockets all the time. A lot of people are doing work with their laptops just sitting right on their lap,

and their body is getting inundated with all of this EMF radiation. Absolutely true. In fact, you know, I often tell the story when I was in Bell Labs many, many years ago. There was a large mainframe computer 50 feet away from me, had huge emissions and whole sorts of power. Today, fast forwarding today, your cell phone has the same capacity, but it's right next to your body. The admission from the technology in the past was far away. All these technologies we have now is right close to our body. The fact is if you are exposed for a couple of minutes a day to an RF signal, radio frequency signal, from your cell phone,

that's not a problem at all your body can easily tolerate those things but when you use it more and more often and surround your body more and more often it could have dangers in fact if you use a cell phone for several hours a day for 10 years you are three times more likely to get frontal lobe cancers that's a study that was done so in fact there It can be severe, but for me, what's more concerning is what happens in between that. It's not a serious problem where there may be cancerous, and it may be nothing, but it's in between. We have electric hypersensitivity going on where people actually reacting to it.

Your body's literally reacting to the exposures that are surrounding you today. Yeah, a lot of people are worried about this, concerned about this, and this is why I love a company such as yours that is offering products, and we're going to get into these in a little bit, but products that actually shield your body from this radiation. But I want to first talk about some of the health complications with this. We've already discussed the cancers and things, but I would imagine that this is disrupting everything,

even at that cellular level. Oh, absolutely. In fact, Dr. Navajo, he's out of California, he talks about saying cell danger response where the body reacts automatically to an external influence. And CDR is literally what happens. Your cell danger response occurs. And all of a sudden, your body's not functioning particularly as it should. And so it starts deteriorating.

Cells don't talk to other cells. there's a breakdown of communications within the cells. And that leads to things like neurological concerns, physiological concerns, your eyes may hurt, it may have tinkling in your ears. There's a whole host of things that happen when you have these exposures, and that's what we should be concerned about. When you're exposed to these kinds of technologies, very long periods of time, it does impact the human body.

So I'm going to go out on a limb here. speak for you, put words in your mouth here, but I would assume that you're not a fan of Elon Musk's and his neurolink. You might think there might be some dangers associated with that? Yeah. So let me talk a tiny bit about this stuff. When you use the cell phone, the standards were over 30-some-odd years old, right? And so they took a whole bunch of six-foot males. And they said, how much can I heat your head with a power level that only heats it up two degrees? And so what they did is they said, well, with a six-foot male, you can have a 1.6 watt transmission. The power level is 1.6 watts. And so, of course, today it represents 3% of the population.

So women, children, the six-foot male, it goes in one to two inches into the head, and then it heats up one to two degrees. A child, it goes completely through the head. So you're using a cell phone that's going completely through your head. So the standards are not necessarily up-to-date protecting us for what we want to do. I had to tell you that story because when you talk about fixed wireless services, where they're they on the ground and they go up to a satellite, it takes 20 to 40 watts, take it up to a satellite. And guess what, Caleb, that can be in your backyard where your kids are playing. So it's not that I'm against technology.

I'm just trying to help people be aware of the potentials that can occur when these technologies are around us. Sure, yeah, that makes absolute sense. and who volunteers for scientists to see how much they can heat your head up. I would actually assume that was probably put on our military, but I'm just making assumptions. It was military. It was actually sick-foot-military. How did I know? How did I know?

Oh, man, that's so sad. As a military veteran, I can say that's so sad how many times they use this to experiment on us. Yeah, really true. I mean, exactly. that contract and you don't really own yourself at that point anymore. Let me ask you a really interesting question, or at least for me it is. I've seen some reports, some suggestions, and maybe this is in the conspiracy theory realm, but the reason that we moved away from lead-based paints is because they actually interfered with the cellular data and that they were already gaming this,

getting us ready for that situation, so they had to remove the lead from the paint. so many of our houses. Well, I'm not an expert on lead, but a lead absorbed into the human body quickly becomes toxic because it's overbearing for the internal cell and the body in general. So I'm not sure if it was intentional or what it was, but it's certainly true. don't want products that have lead because it transferred the human body quickly. And most paints, of course, they're banned now. But it is true that there could be danger, and they only found out about 30 years after they did it.

So what I'm saying is that the people are suggesting that the lead paint in the houses actually would block a lot of this EMF radiation. and so they wanted to get rid of the lead because of that purpose. Caleb, you know, I tell the story about when I go to the dentist, they used to put a big heavy thing on top of my chest and they'd bring this big thing and they'd run out and they'd say, are you ready? And they'd zap me. That was lead.

And of course, what they were using is x-rays of my teeth, which most don't do today. But lead shields the x-ray or the terrahertz, very high, high speed. And so it turns out that all the lower speeds, the gigahertz, the hertz, the, they actually, lead does not filter it. Lead doesn't touch it, actually, it turns out. So it does, if you have lead on your wall and you have a cell tower right next to your kitchen window and you're not protected because you have lead in your paint. Okay, I really appreciate you clearing that up as an expert because I've seen people talking about this. And there we go.

So right there, we are spitting facts on the episode. But if you have an x-ray machine in the backyard, then you should use that. Definitely use some lead at that point. Okay. Good to know. Yeah. You know, there's a lot of conspiracy theories out there. And I know. Some of them, I believe, some of them have been proven to be true. But we want to make sure that we are telling the truth on this show. And I appreciate your expertise. What are the facts? Absolutely. Yes. Okay. So continuing on with the interview here and talking about, you know, the health consequences here. I've seen reports. And it just, it makes me rather sad. But I call them the people of Walmart. because I tend to see these types of people at Walmart. But I've seen women who will carry their cell phones in their bra.

And they end up getting a, they end up getting cancer and it's in the shape of a rectangle. Like that should be the evidence right there that you need to have some type of separation, some protection from these cell phones. Yeah. In fact, that's a great example of a woman going to a doctor and saying, you know, I have my cell phone here, and then the doctor says you have cancer because you put your cell phone there. Unfortunately, there's not a huge database telling us that putting a cell phone on your breast can be dangerous to your breast. We don't have it, right? But we know it's true from our friends, our neighbors.

And science just doesn't study the penetration on our signal. Actually, money hasn't been spent developing research on that for 30 years. So it's one of those things that you've got to be cautious. and sort of decide based on the things you're hearing if you should take caution or not. And that's one example. There are many. For example, seven, eight years ago, a pediatrician gave a whole bunch of women that became pregnant. And he gave them a meter, and he said, you know, walk around, always look at the meter and see what you have. And At the end of this study, what he found was if you had heavy exposures where you went and you were more likely to have a miscarriage in the first trimester.

Have you ever heard of that, Caleb? You probably didn't know that, right? But yet there was a study that showed that there was a first term when you were heavily exposed. So, and there are many, many, many. In fact, there are so many, I get tired of partificating about how many of these research studies have been that talk about the impact that could be dangers to the human body. Sure. And let's walk that through because there's a lot of women that we're starting to see, and actually men also, of that we're starting to see the younger generations that are having trouble getting pregnant.

And I'm thinking about what you just said, and I'm thinking about all of the advancements in smart technology and how people have smart televisions now, smart refrigerators, smart laundry machines. It's all connected. You're literally, in my opinion, and you're the expert here, but you're making your entire house a toxic environment. Exactly. Yeah, you touch on so many subjects. one of which is you have many many many transmitters in your bedroom you have your cell phone maybe your wife's cell phone maybe your girlfriend said for you have

your Wi-Fi coming from the TV you have the router over in the corner and and so I refer to that as bees in the room think about it as well like one transmitter is one B, but in today's environment, within that bedroom, you have 50, 30, 20, depending on the technologies have. So 1B won't kill you, 1,000 will, and that's the cumulative impact of these technologies around us. And long story short, turn them off if they're not using them. Sure. Yeah, that makes sense. I like the analogy of the bees, because, you know, one be in your room you know you might be able to sleep it might kind of annoy you but you get 30 or 50 B's in that room you ain't going to bed and it's going to be very disruptive yeah in fact we haven't talked about what RF is radio frequency but it's a microwave signal right and so when we talk about heating up in the standard it's heating up it's heating the water between the cells oscillating the cells and it's heating the in fact, like a microwave, heating the meat.

That's what it's doing, right? And so having an accumulation of that is pretty serious when you're trying to sleep. I was on a podcast once, and I told this lady, get all your cell of telephones out of the room, get the Wi-Fi out of the room, make sure that sanctuary has no RF signals. And she said, oh, thank you, Dan, so much for letting me know that I should think about it that way. And then she called me back, and she said, I didn't believe you. But then my husband and I took our cell phones out. We cleaned the room out. And for the first time and long time, we're actually sleeping.

Why is that true? RF signals muck around with the way in which you're... the brain's working and in some cases if you electric hypersensitive really hypersensitive you can actually be walking and be sleeping in your brain the alpha versus the beta they convert and when you really seriously hypersensitive to the uh those electronic signals it really can disrupt the brain the heart function the stomach function and then at night it's even more exacerbated because sleeping right your whole circadian rhythm is out of them and you my microchondrial repair is not recovering so all of a sudden you're getting to these worse and worse cycles for your health

yeah so that it's um you know when i was a when i was a kid my mom used to tell me uh don't stand too close to the microwave and i love that you threw that out there for the audience you know like hey you put the food in the oven or the microwave you don't just stand and stare at it um because you're getting you're getting that into your body you're absorbing that. But yeah, that's exactly how the food gets warm is exactly what you described. Now, what you just said also was really interesting to me. Fans of the show know I've been very, very open about the fact that I struggle with insomnia constantly. My mind just not shut down. And I've never experimented what you were talking about. So I'd like to actually, for my own

benefit, I know removing the cell phones, my wife and I's cell phones from the room, but what else can I do to block that, to make that sanctuary that you were describing? Okay, this is a very important one, Caleb. When you go to bed and you're watching TV, or maybe you pick up your iPad and you start playing with your iPad, and then at 11 o'clock, you decide, I'm going to sleep now, you're not going to go to sleep. Why? Blue light and something you're going to do. you've probably heard about is a naturally occurring from the sun and it's part of the light spectrum but when it's in a monitor it's more intense than the sun outside and so when you're looking at your iPad blue light is going into your eye and guess what the cryptochrome protein

in the back of your eye the little switch that says I want to go to bed I need to this stuff to start generating me to go to sleep. And it's not because the functions have been disrupted as a result of the blue light. So I always tell people at least an hour before you decide to go to sleep, make sure you're not looking at intense blue light from monitors. And that often the case for a lot. And removing the other devices in your room really does make a difference. Even the wiring in your room in the back of your headboard, there's electricity, electricity is running through it.

As a result, extremely low-frequency emissions are emitting from your wall, and if your headboard is right near that wall, you could actually have extremely low-frequency emissions being exposed to. So I really do say You should do those things first to make sure that There may be none of the problems in the room But oftentimes it is a problem Okay, so I don't have a television in my bedroom

I do not go on my phone or I don't even have an iPad I read at night Now my wife does like to watch like Instagram Reels or stuff So she's right next to me I suppose there could be some bleed over from the blue light as she's sleeping next to me. But I'm not doing any of that stuff. I do have my cell phone, but I do,

I have it in a fair day bag, typically, but she does not. So I suppose that could be the issue. It could be. Honestly, so there was a study that was done years ago, and they looked at the

strength of the signal and how it impacts the frontal lobe. And as I mentioned, the standard is 1.6 watts per kilogram. So the power level is 1.6. Well, you have Bluetooth that are much lower in amplitude that may be being transmitted. And dot 1 watts, or 15 times less the power level, can influence the frontal lobe. It does not take a lot of energy. So you really want to cleanse it, your sloth.

sleeping environment. In fact, your living environment as well. You just take all that stuff out, and then you can see if there's other problems. But oftentimes, depression, anxieties, headaches, as I said, ringing in the ear, memory loss, foggy thinking, all of those are associated with studies related to RF. All right. That's, I mean, I think this is going to be a very helpful episode episode for a number of the fans of the show because you're talking about a lot of issues. I mean, when I think about what society is currently experiencing, anxiety is through the roof, depression. I mean, just watch any television show and you're going to be interrupted by big pharma commercials

that are talking about depression, anxiety, take this medication from it. But also headaches, brain fog. You know, there's a lot of people that are dealing with these issues. And it sounds like a lot of them are probably EMF or sensitive, right? It could be, you know, it's not clear evidence, certainly in science. But look at ADHD with kids in school that are using Wi-Fi. They have the repeaters, and all of them have transmitters on each of their tablets. They're all transmitting seven hours a day or five hours a day.

and ADHD and other concerns with kids have risen substantially over the last 10 years. Could that be one of the reasons? There are some studies that show it does, but certainly not enough to be conclusive. But for me, as I said, you should be cautious because potentially that's it. Okay. Let me ask you this along that same vein. You know, a lot of people have discussed that there seems to be a shorter attention span for people. Now, I know cell phones are very addictive.

They're designed to be so. And you get into the social medias. And now people, because they want that instant dopamine hit, if a video is longer than three seconds, they're scrolling past the next one. But could it also be, could part of this be that EMF as well, because kind of going through that brain fog and things? could that be a part of why people are seeing these shorter attention spans? You know, and that's a real serious debate, Caleb. It is a debate. For me, that I live in that space all the time, so I try to be very aware what science is suggesting

all the research studies that have going on. And it is, some clinics talk about it as being the gorilla in the room. they really do think that could be it i know of some clinics that actually consider that really one of the more serious spaces i don't i don't have a firm on um i don't have a firm science base to say that that's true or not but but again as i've said all along um it used to be 50 feet away and now it's right in my pocket and does it an impact maybe i well you when i was 12 years old I smoked cigarettes my father smoked so I want to be a big man so I smoke cigarettes and of course a couple of them and choked to death when I you know

when I put them out and that was quite a number of years ago and do you know Caleb at that time they knew that there was a direct link between smoking that cigarette and cancer in my lungs yet did you know about it did I of course not you know we just didn't know but the science was beginning to tell us there may be a problem so anytime you introduce technology into your environment there could be always a downside like it was for that like it was for trans fats banned last banned in the u.s the world banned it for 20 years before so it was so i think it more like that that where we're trying to catch up and understand the technology were dealing with, but I have evidence that suggests that I think that may be true.

Yeah, I would definitely agree with that. You know, there's, you know, I already brought up lead paint, for example, you know, and going back into more ancient history, they used to drink out of lead cups and led to a lot of issues or, you know, why do we get the term Matt Hatter? You know, there's a lot of things that people used to use and then science caught up with it and said, this is actually really bad for you. So I think we might be at that point where we're starting to realize and recognize that this EMF radiation

is actually really bad for us and we should take some steps to protect ourselves from. Now we're fast approaching this hard break and we're going to come back and we're going to start talking about your products. But let me point everybody to the website. And Chris, if you can bring this up,

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let's go back to our guest daniel t de bon of defender shield and we're going to start talking about some of these products because you got a lot here that i really really love and i want to start with the earbuds because my goodness i am so saddened when i walk around and i see all these people with these these devices in their ears and it's literally microwaving their brain and they don't even know it right yeah that's what I was taught we were talking about the I implied when you put the things in your ears they often some they they communicate between each other when there's stereo being played it's literally going right through your head so it's pretty serious and so the year buds because I

recommend being cautious I try to find ways of reducing exposures as best we can, particularly long term. And so when you're using a cell phone to your head or you're listening to music or you're talking to a friend, that was something you did a lot of. And I said, well, look, let me find a way of bringing the audio part of what you're looking at, listening to. through the most effective way of reducing the exposures. Not an easy test, because I certainly like music, too. And I wanted to be high fidelity.

I don't want something that I can't really hear very well out of. And so it literally took about a year, but what I was able to do was create a product in which the transmission is from the cell phone. it goes to a speaker, and then I convert the speaker to audio, and I have an acoustic coupling between that speaker and my ear, eliminating any of the emissions that would typically go up a wire. So I eliminated that as a potential concern, and with our earbuds, it's good fidelity as well, because that's what you're. you like to hear. I so appreciate this product. I think every single person listening to this should go out and order this product and stop using this wireless earbuds that literally microwaving your brain. I mean, I'm not the only person that's pointed this out. I've seen this around, but wire all these sports figures. You see them going to their buses after a game or

something. And they all have wired. You notice that? I mean, these guys have all the money in the world. they shouldn't have the latest greatest wireless technology, but every single one of them is walking around with a wire. Do they know something we don't know? Right. In fact, we have a base of sports experts for those very reasons. We provide other products to them as well, but we try to reduce the exposure because it has an impact to the muscle tone

to the performance of the athlete. So they're concerned about it. And by the way, when it's wired, it's better than it's to the head. Now, we just took it one step further and eliminated it. Well, I definitely support that one. One of the other things that you guys have that I love is you have EMF blocking wallet cases for your phones. A lot of people are interested in this product. A lot of people, there's a lot of other options out there, but not all are made the same.

And I really love what you guys are doing here. So let me tell a bit of a story, Caleb. We were at a conference with a fellow that was very seriously hypersensitive. He was also a helicopter pilot in war theater. And he came to me and he said, Dan, I get very concerned if I go down, my transmissions can be detected, which is typically in Moy, they can detect where you are, and they look for you, and an RF signal. And it really bothered him that he was going to potentially be found. So I said, I'll make you something.

So I actually made him a Faraday cage, basically, for his product. And that started a whole line of product for us. And by the way, we also develop... we are not a typical shielding company. Because of my background, I was able to work with manufacturing places, and we started shielding 5G signals two years ago. We now shield 6G, and guess what? I have to have the Air Force test it, because they're the only ones that can get at these

rates, but these rates are coming, and we need to find projections. from it. Oh, absolutely. Amen to that one. And let's explain this to the customer, because some people might be thinking, well, but if I have a, you know, a Defender Shield product, I'm not going to be able to get texts or phone calls. And that's not the case. You're, from what I've been looking at anyway, the backing, the one that's closest to your body is where the shielding is, and you can still get the signal away from your body. Is that correct? That's exactly how it is, right? So if I built it all the way around the cell phone it wouldn't transmit out and it wouldn't receive internal incoming transmissions so you had to design it in a way that shielded

your body anytime you use the product or you store the product we wanted to make sure you're shielded and the transmissions are not going towards you and that means creating a shielding technology and on one side and then, of course, a cell phone can go out as far as it needs to, up to five miles, as you know. And it, unobstructed. So you actually have all your texts, you have all your calls coming in and out, but when you use your phone, you're safe. Well, that is fantastic. I know a lot of people are going to want to be able to get their calls, their texts and stuff,

but still not have their body literally being invaded by this radiation here. Yeah. But if people want to completely just block everything, you also sell products like that. Yeah, that's what I was talking about with the helicopter guy. I really thought about that. And then I realized that we have a lot of customer base that wanted to protect themselves from their transmissions in a bedroom. And they didn't want to put it outside so that they put it in a bag in which, that was safe. Others didn't want to have their location identified. And so there were a lot of reasons why you may not, why you may want to shield that signal. And that's what generated our, just the case for the cell phones, but also for the military. We have cases that we provide,

that provide that protection. Sure. And then you've also got, it looks like, it looks like, like shields for laptops as well. And then also some great sleepwear. You've got blankets. You've got eye masks as well. So you're going to be able to sleep a whole lot better. Maybe I should get some of these products and try it and see if I'm sleeping better. Well, it turns out that, I'm thinking, Dr. Court.

He's very, very hypersensitive. And I sent him a blanket for him to try and for his clinic. and he now won't go to bed without having that on top of his bed. The reason why it works is because any ambient in the room will be attracted to the silver function we have in a blanket, and it absorbs the energy and disperses that energy within the framework of the blanket itself. So it eliminates any dangers, and that reducts, of ambient when you're sleeping actually helps you sleep and so it really there's a doctor another doctor he I said I'll give you a blanket put it use it and see

what happens and he said that doesn't work and I said well well just try it and he tried it and all of a sudden he felt calm because the ambience he lived in or higher and he didn't have that stressor the cell danger response occurring so it actually helped him relax further so for some it is important um the reason i developed it was for moms it was like if if you're going to have a baby you you want to protect the the body um and um and that led to a a whole product line of products that go to adults as well. So what I'm thinking here is perhaps for me, I'm going to have to run an experiment where maybe I get that blanket.

And would you suggest, is the blanket enough or should I grab one of? You also have a beanie cap I'm looking at right here, that if maybe the blanket and the beanie cap and maybe insomnia disappears for me? So we I actually developed a sleeping mask. Looks like a typical sleeping max, but I put shielding inside. Why? Because the ambient, RF ambient is reasonably high. And the pathway to the brain through the eye is the quickest pathway to the brain.

So we said, well, let's try it. And we've had many who use it regularly, but there are some who said, I feel much calmer, I'm more relaxed, and that helps them with their sleeping patterns. So, in fact, that is a, in fact, we have prototypes now for clinics where we actually cover the eyes and we cover the years. whether the vagus nerve and all sorts of other things going on. And it's a very common neutralizing product for the medical community as well. I got to tell you, you've sold me. I think I need to try the blanket, and it sounds like the eye protection while I sleep. Yeah, I would do the eye protection because, believe it or not, it's really legitimately true.

Depending on your environment, those levels can be even low and still be a challenge for you. if you're hypersensitive. What I love about this is I can run my own experiment. I know exactly how I'm sleeping or lack of sleeping right now. And I can come back and tell my audience that, hey, I tried this blanket. I tried this sleep mask and it does actually work. So this is wonderful. And I would suggest to the audience, run your own experiment here.

Try this out, see if it helps you. Absolutely. Yeah. With that pilot, the helicopter pilot I was telling you about, he put the blanket on at a trade show when I met him. And he wouldn't give it back. I said, we'll take it. Thank you for your service. And he was really that hypersensitive.

And just that environment he was in at a trade show was hard for him to deal with. you put the blanket on, he wouldn't give it back. So how long do these things last? Do you need to replace them after a certain period of time, or does this last for quite a while? Actually, the materials being used, the high-quality materials, they last a long, long time. The shielding technology itself doesn't deteriorate at all. That has a typical 99-year design. But the fabric we use to cover it, which is organic materials, does maybe break down.

But we have covers for them as well, so you replace the covers, and you can keep the actual blanket itself and less for a while. I love that as well, because we look at cell phones, and they're obsolete within a few years. They're breaking down and things like that. Yours, 99 years, you know, yes, obviously the organic matter can break down. But, I mean, this goes to prove your character as well, sir. You're in a company. You're obviously trying to make money on it, but you're producing a product that for some people can last their whole lifetime. Yeah. Let me tell you another story.

I have another doctor I deal with, and he travels a lot, and he used the blanket. And then one day I said, well, look, take this blanket and you use that. And so he said, okay, I'll try it. I have to go to India, have business there. And what he did is he took an HRV, which is a machine that tests the biomarkers of the body, before he traveled. And then when he got there, he tested it again. Always true in the past that his HRVs were far less body performance.

as a result of the ambience he worked into the Wi-Fi and everything and the same thing. And so when he put our jacket on, his HRVs were better than when he left. So believe it or not, for some, particularly hypersensitive, when you protect yourself from the ambient, it really does help your body feel more comfortable. and some actually some people actually fall asleep because the change is so much different okay well I look forward to trying this myself we've actually come down to the end of the show and so I want to bring up the website again defender shield.com I want the audience to go check this out do some shopping explore it but sir I want to give you any last words why should people go to the

website what else can they find there before I go there I'll send you a blanket and a mask. Oh, thank you so much. You're our official tester. Love it. I'm going to report back, ladies a gentleman. I do have final

comments. And it's about you're the architect of your own destiny. And so if you're waiting for someone else to make sure you're safe or make sure that you're in good health,

I wouldn't wait I would take that action plan for yourself and decide what it is you want to do in your life including how you want to handle your health and so if you look at this work the research which is thousands and thousands of studies talking about the potential concerns with RF you can find ways of minimizing those expositions. We don't have to go to the moon, but we can do protection sufficient for our bodies. Well, I thank you so much for that. So I'm going to remind the audience again, DefenderShield.com. Go check it out. Go do some shopping. Explore the website, please, ladies and gentlemen. And, sir, it has been an absolute pleasure having you on the show. I thank you for all the work that you're doing, and especially for your time during this interview. you. Caleb, thanks so much for inviting me again. I really did enjoy because you are a very casual, interactive guy, and I appreciate that. No, thank you very much for the compliment, sir. All right,

I'm going to go ahead and close this out. If you hold on one more minute post-production to say her goodbyes. I'd appreciate it. But again, thanks for joining us on Church and State. Oh, thank you. All right, ladies and gentlemen, there you go. Solutions. You know, I love solutions on this program. I want to provide those for you. I want to bring on guests that have great ideas that you can test yourself. So please go check out the website, DefenderShield.com, do some shopping, experiment, and hey, write me it, and let me know how it's working out for you. Church and State is brought to you in part by Colonial Life, Spokane, Independent Agents, Finders Insurance, and Mark37.com. I'm Caleb Collier. I was born for a storm.

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