The Prepper Broadcasting Network - Church and State - The AI Slight of Hand and Dog-Men

Episode Date: September 18, 2026

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Valley could become a sanctuary city of a different kind. I'm proposing that the city of Spokane Valley issue of proclamation stating that our city is a second amendment to sanctuary. Today on Church and State, the AI slide of hand plus the legendary dogman fable. Hello, Christian Patriots and welcome to Church and State where we drive morality and religion over tolerance and apathy. And I'm your host, Caleb Collier, once again, your favorite far right, chock, and the show that talks about politics and religion, Jesus Christ. is our referee, so it's always nice and clean. You know, Chris, sometimes that always nice and clean, sometimes there's some editing on your end.

Not with me, but with some of our guests. Yeah, that happens occasionally. It does, yeah. But we do. See, Chris is doing the editing to keep it nice and clean. I keep it nice and clean. That's right, absolutely. Have you ever had to...

Well, actually, I take that back. I was going to say, have you ever had to edit me to keep it nice and clean, but I did have that one flub that dead will remain nameless. I used the acronym. I used the acronym that was the wrong acronym. Yes. I didn't mean to in my defense. Let's move on.

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I've been doing remote work for a long time, actually, with all the different political organizations I've been with. It was all remote work. Remote work is lonely. Yeah, I'm not like Chris. Chris, you get around too many people and you're like, I want to get back to my apartment, right? Yeah, pretty much.

Yeah. I'm the exact opposite. Like, I get so energized by being around people, because people are fascinating to me. They're interesting to me. I like to people watch. And so when you're stuck in an office, this is probably why you get therapy sessions with me

because I'm like, I'm out and about and I'm all excited and I'm giddy. It's good to be with people. It's good to be with your coworkers. I really do believe this. I think we need to go back to the brick and mortar style of businesses. I like the old movie line.

I love people. I just seem to feel better when they're not around. What movie is that from? The Barfly. Man, it's been a minute since I've seen that. That is going back there. Okay. Anyway, got to be around some incredible people up in Barners Ferry.

So many great individuals, so many great connections, so many great speeches and people that are living it. I know I'm in a unique position. I truly do. I see that I am in a beautiful bubble. Some people are in bubbles that are not so beautiful. I'm in a beautiful bubble. I am constantly surrounded by people who get it.

Like I don't understand. And I'm sorry for those of you that don't get to experience in my life. I mean, it is really great. But I don't know how I would handle being around like normal people. I really don't. People that are just like bread and circus, you know, talking football or, or, whatever, like, or even being around like a lot of leftists all the time. Like if I was, if I was in San Francisco, I'd probably be Michael Savage.

I would just probably be angry every single time I was on the radio. Just like, I'm mad. Yeah, because I don't have to experience that. But I tell you, it's so encouraging to be around people that are doing it. Homesteaders. I mean, the amount of families that I met at this event, they're like, yeah, I've got nine kids. Wow. Yeah, we got a farm over here and my kids get up early with me.

I ran into a guy, awesome guy. He's going to be on the show eventually here. He just does incredible things. He's a former operator. He helps people now. But his kids, when they wake up, they have to earn their breakfast. They have to earn their breakfast, Chris. Nice.

They got to go work. They got to go do a workout, something. And then they can sit down and have breakfast. Like, makes me question of my parenting. Kids, if you hear this episode, change is coming. They're going to be terrified. But yeah, I just, I love this kind of stuff. I really truly do.

And I can't wait to get to more of these kind of things. And I will say this too. My, I told my two co-workers, Chris, I was like, yeah, you're in God's country. And they're like, isn't everything God's country? And I'm like, no, you don't get it. They didn't get it? They didn't get it? No.

But after three or four days of being here, they were like, I can see why you call this God's country. It's like, yeah, it's beautiful. And they tried Huckleberries for the first time in their life. And they kept asking me, because I kept telling people, like, everybody we'd meet, I'd be like, they just tried Huckleberries. And every single person was like, you've never had a Huckleberry. And they're like, why is it such a big deal?

It really is. It's a huge deal in the Pacific Northwest. I mean, that's the official fruit of Idaho, isn't it? Huckleberry? Pretty sure it is. I don't know, but it ought to be. It ought to be. What would you say they taste like?

Because they kept asking. Like blueberries? But not entirely. I don't know. Anyway, regardless, they can now say, I'm your huckleberry. Yes. Sorry, and everybody should be able to say that.

All right. Let's get into this, except for my computer froze. I hate that. I want to talk to you about AI. You know, obviously there's a lot of conversations that are going into the artificial intelligence. And there seems to me, anyway, that there's a slight of hand that is occurring. And I really want to dive into that with the audience here.

And now that I've got my computer working, it's probably because I started making fun of AI that my computer shut down. I want to go to two stories. Both of these are coming from the New American. You know how I feel about the New American. I love these guys. But the first one is talking about predictive crime programs. that seem to be appearing, especially as of late. Okay, the public opposition has been mounting.

And the people that are in charge of artificial intelligence, all this different companies, they want to do something about it. And what they want to do something, or what they want to do, is not engage in a massive PR campaign. That would make too much sense, wouldn't it? If the owners of all these different artificial intelligence companies were like, hey, look, We want to welcome you in with open arms. Let's have this discussion. You guys have concerns.

You know what? We have answers for that. No, instead they seem to be saying anybody who's opposed to AI needs to be watched 24-7. So the exact people who are sounding the alarm bells now have been validated because of the actions of the people behind artificial intelligence. You guys are doing a bang-up job. If you need somebody to help you with PR, I might know a guy. I might know a guy that you can put front of these people and maybe we can engage in civil conversations

so that everybody came away and said, you know what, all right, there needs to be limitations. There needs to be a kill switch. Maybe we don't need to be in a nuclear arms race with China, in this case with AI instead of with the Soviet Union. Might be a solution. But that's the response from them. And they, of course, are using the fear factor here.

This is what they always do. You've got to look for this kind of stuff when you're examining the story as a whole. They like to throw out events like a security guard at Anthropic, rush to stop a man sneaking into the lobby of the world's most valuable AI startup. And what was found on him in the envelope marked with the name of a top anthropic executive. The executive was going to be killed, he told the guard, and he needed to warn someone. Or there's the case of the individual who, an Oklahoma man who was, threatened violence after seeking a refund, according to police records.

He wanted to talk to a human. Boy, do I understand this guy? Chris, do you understand this guy who just wanted to talk to a human being? Oh, man. I feel it. And then he says this, okay? Probably not the best thing to say, but I understand. I'm just trying to justify it, but I understand the anger.

Okay, what did he say? He says, since y'all, I love the y'all, since y'all were, to have a real person to contact me and refund my money, I'll be coming to your office with my pistol, and then we'll have a blank and talk about my money. Sir, while I understand the anger, don't put that in writing. Come on, man.

Like, you didn't mean it. I guarantee you he didn't mean it. But he's just frustrated. And after 30 minutes on the phone yelling, I want to talk to a human. I'm pressing zero. I keep doing it and I keep getting the AI slop. Fine.

I'm coming there. Okay, I get it. I get the anger. But they're using stuff like this to, of course, install fear in the public mind. They're justified. They're justified in their actions because we can't have crazy people with guns. This is, of course, going to get maybe the left on their side. There's different ways that they can use, the conversation,

that they're putting out there to get one side or the other to support what they're doing. With the left, they're talking about what? The crazy people with the guns. We can't have this. We can't have the Second Amendment. With the right, what are they talking about? Security, the border, right? They use these to get us all funneled together so that we support the same idea, the same tyrannical idea.

And it's so obvious. It's as plain as the broken nose on my face. We ever notice that Chris, my nose is a little sideways. Oh, who me? I've never noticed. I know. Yeah, well, misspent youth. Anyway, this of course is nothing new.

And I want to read a quote from Whitney Webb, who if you don't know who Whitney Webb is, you should know who Whitney Webb is. Actually, I'm trying to get an interview with her. I hope that comes to fruition. She is one of the most prolific investigative journalists out there. She's phenomenal. Okay. but this is the quote that she says, Sorry, but it's not just anthropic.

Palantir has been working on predictive policing and surveillance of dissidents for the U.S. government for well over a decade. The goal of the Bush admin immediately after 9-11 was pre-crime via total information awareness, and they have been building it ever since through the privatization of the programs as Palatier, and there are other companies working towards this end, too, all of with, to the U.S. intelligence or top U.S. officials. Okay? She's right. And this is something that I've discussed

numerous times on my show. And it doesn't have to be about Palantir. It doesn't have to be about artificial models or the surveillance state. It just has to do with technology. Ladies and gentlemen, everything that you know of now, I got the cell phone.

So let's just talk about the cell phone. This cell phone, the capabilities that the cell phone has, the government had this at least, least a decade before it was ever unveiled to the public. You have to understand that everything we have, everything that's benefited humanity, the government, their operators had access to it well before we ever saw it, well before we ever even knew of its existence. Okay. That's how they operate. And by the time it gets to us, it's antiquated. Okay, by the time it rolls out to the general public, it's old news because they're already working with stuff that will come out a decade later.

That's how this works. Anything that they can use for surveillance, anything they can use for the safety of the people at the top, you're not going to have access to it. You're not going to see it. You're not even going to know about it. This is why people talk about free energy and things like this. Yeah. That stuff exists.

that technology is out there, but you're not going to see it. Some of those things you'll never see. Is it covering it up because they want you? Well, they want you to pay through the nose, don't they? Now, with all that being said, it leads to the conversation. It leads to concerns. It leads to people being pushed in one specific direction. And I want to go to the next article here, also from the New American.

is the AI Dumer Wave a genuine alarm or a scheme for control? Now there's the question. I want to take you back. Okay, we just had an individual, okay? Jacob Coxon. He's a whistleblower, AI researcher. He hit the news. I mean, it was massive.

Absolutely massive. Who was this guy? AI programmer that quit suddenly and decided to do an ex post where he warned, that everyone within the industry agrees that they're moving far too quickly and that they all believe that artificial intelligence could kill all of humanity in a short amount of time. That's what this man warned about.

Those fears are valid. But where do this guy come from? And as you start to peel away the onion, you come to realize things aren't as they seem. Okay, when most people look at this story, they're going to say, man, that's a brave individual. I had a well-paying job and decided that the right thing to do was to warn humanity against this clear and present danger. This was supposedly his first ex post, his very first ex post ever. And within a day, within a day, millions upon millions of hits.

It's kind of interesting. Chris, you and I have been posting daily. Have we hit millions and millions of hits? Yeah, I don't think we've had a million hits on all of our posts put together. Yeah. And that's how the algorithm works, ladies and gentlemen. They pick the people at X, it doesn't even have to be X, any social media, any posting out there whatsoever. Whether it's YouTube, X, Facebook, Instagram,

TikTok, it doesn't matter. The algorithms that people at top, they're picking what gets out there. If you hit a little close to home, and perhaps this is why, I don't know, there might be censorship on a show like this one. When you hit a little too close

to home, guess what happens to you? Suppressed Brutlow, but not this guy. No, this guy was suddenly everywhere. And it wasn't just that. The mainstream news jumped in as well. In mainstream news, Hanam, Fox, CNN, Business Insider, New York Post, Newsweek,

they all magnified this guy's message within hours. That should lead to some degree of suspicion. Because this doesn't happen organically. I understand the people that are concerned about this subject, but this nobody. If it's your first post on X, you have zero followers. No one's on there. And suddenly, all out of nowhere, it's magnified and amplified to this degree? What would be the point, Caleb?

What would be the issue here? Why are you looking for conspiracy theory everywhere? Oh, I don't know, maybe because I'm a student of history? The reason why this is important to me, and to the writers of the New American, is because we're distrustful. We're distrustful of the plan of the scheme. and here's what it is. The real fear, as we look at this,

is that they could be using this to control it. They could be using this to build a monopoly. You remember Monopoly? What a fun game. Did you like Monopoly, Chris? Only if I was winning. I hate Monopoly. I hate that game.

I never want to play that game. I don't care. My kids are like, let's play Monopoly. No. I'll be the guy that flips the board. It just annoys me. It's just not a fun game whatsoever. But perhaps I should get better at playing monopoly

because the people that I rant and rave about on this program constantly, oh, they are playing monopoly. But they're not using fake money. Well, I mean, it's fiat currency. But there you are controlling the world. And they've done this a time or two. They've done this actually a number of times. The Federal Reserve Act is a great example of this.

See, they have the problem. Crisis solution. You know, I talk about this all the time. Here's the problem. Here's the solution. And if AI is such a threat, if we now have insiders, former employees, even the CEOs, the heads of these AI startups and organizations are all saying, yeah, this is valid. AI could kill us. Elon Musk is talking about a kill switch.

Congress is talking about doing this. Donald Trump is saying it's no big issue. Donald Trump says, all it takes for AI. AI to be controlled is for a president with a high IQ. Did you hear him say? I'm paraphrasing a little bit, but that's actually what he said. Okay. Oh, Donnie, Donnie, Donnie, Donnie.

Who's the president with a high IQ? I think we've seen one in quite a while, actually. Regardless, they're all talking about this. They're all steering you one direction. Slide a hand, right? watch the magic trick oh guess what it's happening actually over here right but keep your eyes over here you want to look look at me not over here okay that's the magic trick and the magic trick is this you are going to clamor for some control some type of control because you truly can't allow the free

market you don't want it you and i understand it guys you've been educated away from it. You've been educated to understand or perceive the free market's dangerous. Let the buyer be where. We can't have that. We can't live under that mentality. No, not at all. Purpose of government. Well, they've got to jump in here, right? Government's got to do for the people what the people can't do for themselves. So, we need a standard. We need a standard to control all of these startups and the individual. The individual out there who likes AI, who says, I could use this as a tool.

One that because I want what's good for people, I'm going to build it to where it has a morality built into it. Well, he's going to be pushed to the side. This young chap with his startup, he's going to get axed. before you ever has the opportunity. Why? Because they established a monopoly. Because now, if you want artificial intelligence,

you've got to go to those who have enough money, enough power, enough leverage, to ensure that they're one of the few within the industry. I've told you before, AI, AI, artificial intelligence, it's free right now. Why is it free? Because you're the product.

You are the product. But once they establish that monopoly, you can say goodbye to free use of AI from that moment forward. Now everything will be protected by a firewall. If you want to use this, you got to pay a certain amount. And those of you who don't, well, guess what? You're going to be left behind in the corporate world because you can't achieve, you can't do. with all these other individuals who are paying into the AI model.

That, ladies and gentlemen, maybe one of the most accurate reports I've ever done on this show. And I would be willing to predict. Chris, you heard it here. What dates? September 15th of 2026. You heard it here. That is the future.

That is what's going to happen. You doubt me? Well, yes, but you might be right. Why would you doubt me? I lay a compelling case. I'm telling you. I'll give you that. Okay.

This is the direction. This is what they're going to do to us. And the vast majority of people, you're not going to see it. Even though you have individuals with such a high IQ that they're able to come on a show like Church and State give this dire warning, don't laugh at me, Chris. Don't laugh at me. I can't take it. Look, when you hear me on the show get a little bit air.

It's all a joke. Okay? Mostly I do it for reaction. You give me good reactions. So I appreciate that about you. My mom calls me every time. Every time I do something like this, because you call it.

Caleb, it's not funny, and I don't think your audience is going to understand that you're joking because you've got a weird sense of humor. Okay, Mom. I think my audience gets it. I really don't think all that highly of myself, and I'm actually going to talk about that

when we come back from the break, as well as the dogmen. Who doesn't want to talk about the dogmen? We're going into the conspiracy theory realm, Chris, on today's episode. It's going to be one for the ages. Chris loves it when we talk about this kind of stuff. Okay, yeah, flatter, dogmen, let's go, let's talk about it. But if you want to go and see that, well, of course, you're going to have to go over to church

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love coffee. I need my coffee. You know what? I'm going to pitch to Hunter's Blank coffee. A methylene blue coffee. Rose. No, it's the best of both worlds. You get a blue cup of coffee, which you know it's going to be great.

It's the color of Huckleberries, Chris. Yes. That should be the church and state blend right there. Hunter's Blend coffee. I'm going to contact you. I have your phone number. So a church and state blend of your dark roast with some methylene blue is you're going to be so awake. You won't be able to go woke.

You won't be able to go back to sleep. You are going to be awake. I love this. Anyway, they don't have that one yet, but they do have some great ones. I got one right here. What is this one, Chris? This is beautiful. Liberty roast.

This is a delicious. I don't normally go for medium blend, but this is delicious. the one that we typically drink was, what's it called, black powder, Chris, black powder coffee? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Oh, yeah, black powder.

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Let's go back into what we're talking about. I got to offer an apology. Okay. I told you I was going to do this before the break. I'm not thinking all that highly of myself. There's a lot of people out there that are doing shows, and they're like, I'm always right. Let me tell you how important I am. I'm kind of a big deal.

Now, I joke that way sometimes. But in reality, I beat myself up. I listened to most of the programs afterwards, and I will examine things that I've said, or I flubbed a word, mostly their last names of people. I beat myself up a little bit. I was listening in an episode. and the guest, who I respected, but he brought a couple of Gnostic ideas to the table.

And I should, I mean, one of them I was like, huh? I don't remember reading that. The next one was like, that's not right. And I didn't push back. And I should have. I truly should have because Gnosticism needs to be addressed. And it needs, it has to be at a place where Christians don't accept it.

Okay, so I'm going to say this on that episode. You know, I mean, watch it, don't watch it. It was with John Waterman, Chris, was the guest. Ah, yeah. And he said that he clothed Adam and Eve in the skin of a lion. That's not found in the scriptures. Okay, that is Gnostic texts that say that. We don't know.

It doesn't say which animal it was. And then beyond that, and perhaps he, well, much worse, actually, was the idea that Lucifer might have been the father of Cain. I've heard that a lot from people. I know, and it's Gnostic. Look, guys, we don't need to confuse the issue.

And I'm sorry that I allowed that to happen on my program. I mean, he can have his own beliefs. That's absolutely fine. All right, I would, and I would even say this. You can believe that, and probably, if you still love Jesus, if you still believe he's the son of God, that he died for your sins, you could probably still go to heaven.

Okay, but on this program, and I say it all the time, I'm trying to pursue truth. That's my main motivation here. I should have pushed back on that. I should have corrected that. It should have said something like, you know, that's a different belief. I don't believe that myself. And for that, I am troubled. And I actually had a friend text me and was like, hey, that was a really good episode.

And I was like, I didn't like it. I feel terrible. So take that and do what with you, whatever you will. I mean, it is an apology on my front because of my desire to pursue the truth and because I did not push back when I should have. All right. With that, dogmen, of course. Like, now that I'm talking about the heresy of Cain and Lucifer and Eve and the clothing of the lion, let's talk about what a lot of other people think is heresy to.

It's just a perfect fit. Right. And Gabe used to always do this when we got into the conspiracy theory realm. Chris, you remember this? You remember he pushed that button? Oh, yeah, he loved that one. He did. He loved that button.

So I'm going to build off of that one. We got a video. Okay, we got a video that I found on X. And it supposedly shows these mythical dogmen. I'm going to play it for you, and then I will give some commentary. And I probably won't play all of it, Chris, because it's kind of a longer video. But go ahead and show. everyone the dogmen this is the first confirmed footage of the

synocephaly April 24th in 1993 418 in the afternoon not grainy night vision not a shaky phone camera full daylight six of them walking together like they've done it a hundred times before this isn't one recording it's a compilation pulled from separate research logs recovered at different times all showing the same six subjects whoever compiled this file wanted it clear these weren't isolated sightings this was surveillance Herodotus described them in 4040 BC. Medieval map makers drew them at the edge of every known map and just stopped.

Here be dog-headed men. No further explanation offered because none was needed. 2400 years of that being myth. Then someone pointed a camera at a hillside, and the myth had a formation, a routine, moving like a squad that already knew the map before the match started. Go ahead and pause that there, Chris. Now I will say, okay, the community notes on this say this is false.

Of course it does. okay and anymore these days we were talking about artificial intelligence it's hard to tell like you and it's so sad to me it's so sad that we've come to a society where we cannot believe what we hear or what we see anymore because it could be AI slop you seemed like you wanted to say something well i was just going to say the timestamps are clearly goofed up i mean yes and there's no seconds they're not ticking any time off and the camera moves around into dependent of the timestamp. Yeah.

So that's clearly added in. Yes. Yeah, I'm not the technical guy, but I appreciate your insight on that one. So that's good to point out. I didn't bring this to you to say, here it is, irrefutable proof that the dogmen did exist. But the mystery of the dogman is one that has been around for centuries. And no matter what they have done, no matter the scientist, the in the law, the authors have done, this myth continues to persist out there, that there was a time of dogmen.

And they point out throughout history that there has been a number of individuals that have brought this up. It's been on maps. They were always at the outskirts of known civilization where these supposed dogmen. Now, the dog-faced warrior, as it was an interesting place. Christianity as well. Many of you were probably familiar with a man by the name of St. Christopher. Certainly, most sailors at the very least

should understand and know who St. Christopher is. Why? Because he's the patron saint of travelers. He's supposed to keep these people safe. And in fact, my own producer is named after this wonderful saint. You're here. Yes. But within the Orthodox faith,

this man has for a very long time, well, he's been portrayed as a dog-faced individual. And here it is the image of this. In fact, the Russians, the Russians actually banned this image. And I think it was like 1722 or something like that. And yet still, this myth persists. What do we know about St. Christopher? That he was a giant warrior, a giant warrior from the Sina Fowley race. Is that in my Am I saying that right, Christopher? Sina Fally, race? Sounds good to me.

A mythical tribe of dog-headed people living on the edges of the known world. But he protects travelers. In the east, he's depicted as a doghead to symbolize the ultimate foreigner or barbarian in the West. He's later replaced by a human face. They had him carrying Christ, this dog-faced warrior.

And in fact, there's writings about this man, this dog-faced person that he was a cannibal. that ultimately a hermit, a hermit traveler, led this individual to Christ, and he became a martyr. He was put to death because of how he looked. Regardless of if he was a dog-faced person or not, he was, in fact, put the death because of how he looked. He was executed by a king who viewed his monstrous appearance as an abomination. His head was cut off, died for his faith. But once again, there may be some evidence.

to suggest that indeed this India, that there are dog-faced people. And certainly within, and I brought this up before on the show, I don't look at mythology and completely bypass it. I think that's rather stupid. To enjoy so much of what the Greeks and the Romans gave to us, or other cultures out there as well that have their own mythology, and I'm just going to specifically target the, the, the Greeks, the Romans.

The individuals who gave us so much the roads that still are in better condition than the roads outside of my house right now. Thanks, government. But they did so much for us, mathematics and science and things. And then we get to their religion and it's just like, these people were whacked out of their minds. How could they design ships like that and roads like that and how to actually use and, I mean, bring water to their crops using aqueducts and things?

things like that. But man, then they just made up all these stories about weird creatures, gods, and I don't bypass that. I don't dismiss it immediately. And all these cultures have tales of individuals who are half human and half dog, cat, lion. And there's even some of this found within the Holy Scripture. And before anybody gets too upset with me, don't worry, I'm going to cover it in a way

that's going to offer both sides. But we have two scriptures. The first one is First Chronicles 12-8. And this records the Gadites, who joined David at his stronghold in the wilderness, were mighty men of valor, whose faces were like the faces of lions and who were as swift as gazelles.

Chris has got that up for you. Their faces were like the faces of lions. And they ran faster than most human beings can. Okay, what does this mean? Does this mean that they actually had the face of a lion? Most theologians are going to tell you, no. They looked like that. They were kind of wild men.

Maybe. Perhaps we'll never know. Perhaps we won't know until we gain access to heaven. If they were these, if there were lion-faced creatures, just like they were dog-faced creatures. It's a theory that's willing, I mean, I'm willing to explore it. And I'm willing also to say, I don't have the answers. but I do find it fascinating. We'll go to a second one.

2 Samuel 2320. This describes Beninaya, a valiant war who slew two lion-like men of Moab. Lion-like men. Again, we see this, that they are described as lions. Look, I've told you before my fascination with the book of Enoch, and once again, getting into trouble,

because I seem to enjoy that. I like the book of Enoch. I'm not arguing that it should be canonized. I'm not arguing that Christians have to read the book of Enoch, otherwise their theology, their knowledge of God is incomplete. I don't say that. But I enjoyed reading it. And one of the things that the book of Enoch talks about

is that these fallen angels didn't just sin against humanity, they sin against nature as well, that they created hybrids, not just giants, not just a mixture of human DNA with angelic DNA to create giants, but also with animals. And that would make sense when we examine all the other cultures. These people that were created, minotars, lion-faced men in the Bible, dog-faced men like St. Christopher.

The reality is, is this world is supernatural. And there are a lot of mysteries within this world. that we don't understand. We still find creatures in the sea. This shouldn't exist. We still find ocean creatures way in the deep. We're blown away by. What is this thing?

You got the bloop. Have you ever heard of the bloop? I'll tell you, I got a buddy that watches this show every single time. His son is obsessed with the bloop. He's going to love this episode. Michael, that one's for you. Have you seen the bloop, though? I'm not familiar now.

The bloop. It's this gigantic mass in the ocean that they picked up on. It's moving. They don't know what it is. They call it the bloop. This is moving around in our ocean. Looks to be moving with purpose. All right?

So yeah, there's a lot out there that we don't know. We don't understand. And we're so quick to dismiss. And I think that's the wrong thing. And you know what? We could all be wrong. I could be completely wrong. I'm barking up the wrong tree, pun intended with a dog-faced man.

Don't be so quick. to dismiss all of this did you find yourself so easy to direct like what I was talking about with the artificial intelligence earlier on in the episode the types of people

that will not allow for mystery are the same types of people who will readily accept the mark of the beast who will readily accept the motivations behind the AI infrastructure to create a monopoly

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