The Prepper Broadcasting Network - Church & State -Emma Victoria Johnson on the Journey to Being Cancer Free

Episode Date: July 30, 2026

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with that let's go ahead and bring on our guest now i'm thrilled to bring to you emma victoria johnson she's the director and founder of pony hair studio uh she's australian but she's a british girl she moved down there for the uh nice weather and she absolutely kicked cancers butt through unconventional treatment emma it is a pleasure to have you on the show good morning keel it's a pleasure to be on your show this morning from australia hello everybody that's true it's morning for you, afternoon for us, probably early morning for you. I appreciate you waking up and joining the show. Oh, I'm up every early. Early morning, early morning person. So yes, don't worry. That's all good. Okay. Well, we're the exact opposite. I'm late into the night and mornings.

I'm like, scowling at things. But no, you have an incredible story that I just, I want to share with the audience because cancer is one of those just, it's the worst thing you can possibly hear. You go to the doctor, you're feeling a bit under the weather, and you hear the dreaded sea word. And then they throw at you their established protocols. And it's chemo, it's radiation, it's, you know, biopsying the tumor, all things that from my research into, and by the way, ladies and gentlemen, I'm friends with a lot of people, a lot of naturopaths who know a lot more than I do, all of these things don't result in cures. In fact, it's actually a pretty miserable life until you die. I honestly believe, look, you know, the chemo and the radiation and the surgery that the medicals offer you, you know, it does cure cancer.

They do get rid of it, but what they do at the same time is destroy the whole body. So your immune system's wiped out. There's a killer cell in the body that it kills completely, which is one of the killer cells that actually does kill cancer. So, you know, great, you've got rid of my cancer, but you've also destroyed my whole body inside and out. And I've lived the most 18 months of a terrible life of chemo. And, you know, those people get so sick from the chemo. And chemo has not been updated for 17 years, which is ridiculous. Like, you know, this cancer is the number one, I believe, disease in the world that we can't cure.

and for 17 years we haven't updated anything medical-wise, you know, chemo should have been updated every six months. You know, we can make a COVID vaccine in three weeks and just, you know, give it to the whole world, but we can't make a vaccine or, you know, cure cancer. So I just believe that, you know, we haven't been told that our bodies can actually help cancer, you know, diet, exercise, living a stress kind of free life if you can. You know, it's all the things that I've learned over the last 18 months have been amazing, which I believe has helped me kick cancer's butt. And obviously, the clinic that I found having immunotherapy, which doctors will never admit to,

because they want you to do chemo because it's the biggest money, pharmacy thing, a billion dollar thing in the world. And it's funny, when I got diagnosed, I said to my oncologist at the time, hey, in the meantime, what can I do with myself? Like, do I need a diet? Do I need to drink something? Do I need to take something? It's just live as normal.

Oh, okay. So all the things that feed cancer, just go and carry on doing it. You know, and we go to, you know, people at hospitals that are doing chemo, they've got vending machines with chocolates and lollies and fizzy drinks, and then the cafeteria's got pizzas and burgers and chips. So is the government trying to make us ill? I think so. Yeah.

I think so, too. It's a great question, but I think the answer is an obvious yes. So let's back up a little bit and let's tell the story to the audience. You know, you're a woman, the prime of your life and suddenly this occurs. What was the process? Were you starting to just feel sick? Was there like a growth somewhere or something that you were concerned about? How did this come about?

So in December 2014, 24, sorry, I'm going 10 years back. So not last year before in December, I had a bit of an accident in the gym. And after that accident, I actually felt a lump in my breast. And I honestly went to the doctors and she said to me, oh, maybe we've like strained it, let's see what it's like in a few weeks. So it was still there, I went back again.

She told me that it could be like a fatty cyst or I've done an injury. She said, we'll just go get it checked out. We'll get like a mammogram and an ultrasound, which I waited seven weeks for. In that seven weeks, the tumour, unfortunately, did start to grow because obviously it's Christmas. I'm eating chocolate. I'm drinking alcohol. I gave it its best time of his life.

I did everything that I shouldn't have. And by the January, I went in for an ultrasound. And that's when they said we do think it's cancer. they then wanted me to wait another two months for a biopsy, which I just had a mental breakdown. My girlfriend at the time rang every single clinic in Sydney, like from two to three hour drives away to get me a biopsy. In the end, we got a biopsy two days later, a week later, I've got stage four breast cancer. Now, in December, when I first went with the lump that was like a pea size, if that had been a detective then, I think that would have been easily removed.

and this path wouldn't have happened. But the weird thing is, I honestly believe that this all was meant to happen. I was meant to go down this path. I was meant to be refused surgery and chemo. I was meant to go to Oasis. I was, this was meant to happen. I do believe that God put me in this journey to help others. And so far I've connected with 89 different people all over the world who struggled,

who've been given no hope and now, you know, they've heard of Oasis. I've had about 12 patients cancer-free in the last year from Oasis. So I believe this was my calling. This was my journey. I had a business of nine years which I absolutely loved. I woke up every day, I jumped out of bed, I loved my work. And when I had to close that business down, I didn't realize this would be my new calling. So everything's happened along the last 18 months.

months has happened for a reason. I would agree. Yeah, it's funny how, you know, I've turned everything into a positive and now sitting here today, I truly believe and understand why everything happened. You know, March last year,

when they gave me three months to live, I was like, what? Yeah, four months ago, you probably could have saved my life because it was a pea size, but now it's 9.5 centimeters and growing rapidly because you made me weight.

because it was an accident at the gym or you thought it was a fatty acid. Because of my age as well, they didn't think it was cancer. Younger people nowadays, it's called turbo cancer. Every time I go to the clinic now, everyone's getting younger and younger. And I don't know what is it? Lifestyle. We have some suspicions, yeah. Food, government, yeah.

What is the food being sprayed with that we eat? Oh, 100%. The COVID vaccines has turned off our immunotherapy, you know, sorry, our, in a, you know, what's it called? Am I having a blank? Immune system? That's it. Our immune system has completely shut off in a lot of younger people. And that's how cancer develops.

As soon as that stops, that's how cancer starts. So, yeah, there's a lot, there's a lot of factors in there. I think we're both in agreement on that one. And I mean, already this episode can't go on YouTube anyway because we're talking about like apricot seeds for treating cancer and you can't do that. So might as well talk about the vaccines and how COVID is killing or the COVID vaccines are killing everybody. So yeah, we're not at risk there. But you're a great advocate for Oasis of Hope. How did you even find Oasis for Hope?

I mean, you're in Australia. Across the world is this little place in Mexico that's treating people. people that have cancer with a lot of different, you know, naturopathic, you know, protocols and things like that. So how did you even find it? Honestly, I did start at another clinic to start with. And that was because I came home, got given the death sentence, sat in my house for two days, hence my partner of seven years, it just walked out on me because apparently I was going to die. I sat there for two days on my own and I was on the internet searching for a miracle cure, for a secret bunker.

You know, I've clearly watched way too many movies thinking that this is miracle place somewhere. And I actually found another clinic to start with. And they have great marketing. It looked like, you know, shiny mirrors and this place looked like heaven. And I chose that for the fact of what it looked like, which was the wrong decision. And I think a lot of people, you know, we look at things and we choose things because of how they look. So I did go to another clinic to start with, which wasn't working.

I had some really bad results. And somebody at the time said to me about Oasis in Tijuana. And the next minute they'd contacted Gastone, Dr. Contreras's son-in-law. The next minute, Gastone's calling me. Two weeks later, I'm on the plane and I'm at Oasis. again, I believe God gave that path to me. I was meant to go to the other clinic because I met 40 patients at that clinic

who followed me to Oasis who were alive today. Yet people at the other clinic, obviously I don't want to name names, all the people in my IV room are dead. So I believe I was meant to start somewhere else and then I found Oasis and look, Oasis is a hospital, you know, scary.

The other place was a clinic of, you know, it looked amazing and lights and, you know, you go stay in a fancy hotel, you don't stay at the clinic, you know, it just, it was a fancy vacation with a few treatments. Oasis is a hospital, you stay there, you sleep there, you're under 24-hour supervision, you are hospitalized, which is scarier than go into a clinic. So I understand if people see both clinics together why they would choose the other one. Yeah, I can definitely see that. Yeah, which actually, the other one is just, you know, they helped me learn diet.

I can't take that away from them. They help me put my body into a, you know, into a cancer fighting machine. But what they don't have is the vaccines, is the extra care and attention that you need. It's just a sort of, you know, it's a bit of a servicing for the body and off you go where Oasis are actually curing cancer. So I'm, yeah. And like you said, you've had other people. on the show for my wife's which is we've had a lot of people on the show that are that are that are that have gone through this uh one individual Rick Hill I think is his name uh he's he's he's survived it for

for years a man's uh in his in his uh twilight years and he's got more energy than I do I I love that guy um so so let's talk about this let's talk about the differences here because you went through it all you went through the traditional you know this is chemo radiation surgery and then you also went through more of the clinic the Bougy Clinic, and then ultimately landed at Oasis. And I may have said something wrong there. You seem like you wanted to correct me. So I've had no chemo, no radiation, no surgery.

So basically over here in Australia, the medical system offered me two tablets a day, and I would last for about 18 months. It would just hold my cancer in place because I was too far gone because it got into my lymph nodes and it had spread into my liver with five spots in the space of three months. So in the space of waiting to get scanned and tested, the cancer literally turbo boomed in the body. So I denied the two tablets because there was about 20,000 side effects. And I was like, what's the point in living 18 months in bed with all these side effects?

I'd rather live three months and, you know, enjoy my time on the earth. But then I was like, actually, I'm not going to die. I'm not living, I'm going to, so this is when I went searching. So I started at the first clinic, which to be fair, slowed my car, cancer down. It did help me with diet. I went into an alkaline diet which which helps starve the cancer in the body. I had, you know, the treatments and I learned a lot of the first clinic, but what I wasn't getting was the cure for cancer. And the cure for cancer is the tailor-made cancer vaccines that OASIS makes. And that's when I started to get the results. So I went to

Oasis last June. I had five spots in the liver, two lymph nodes infected. My breast was still 9.5. I sit here today with just one spot left on the liver to get rid of. Wow. Absolutely outstanding. I love that. I love that you're sharing that with the audience and with myself as well. So let's talk a little bit about some of the treatments that you received at Oasis. And I'm sorry. I thought that you had said that you got chemo. I'm very glad. that you did not get any chemo. But OASIS, you know, and talking with them and John Richardson and Dr. is it Contreras or something like that?

Yes, Dr. Contreras. There we go. You know, leotrol is one of the things that they're looking at. What other treatments? I mean, I know diet is very, very important, and I'm glad that you brought that up with the audience, starving it, changing your diet so that you're not feeding it a bunch of sugars that cancer thrives on. But walk us through all the different treatments that you received at Oasis.

Of course. So first of all, you'll start with some IVs. Some patients get five, others get seven, different IVs, just depending on obviously your cancer type and where you're at and you stage. I obviously was on all seven. So you're looking at vitamin B-17, which actually is against the law in America and in Australia and in England. So we can't get B-17. And I wonder why. it kills cancer. Vitamin C, which is a really, a really, really great cancer fighting IV, but you have to do it a certain way. So, like, you know, you can go to an IV clinic anywhere and get a vitamin C and they do it in two hours. Well, actually, it needs to be done with under 30 minutes for it to work for people with cancer. So you do two vitamin Cs a day. We do vitamin K. We do like a multi-bag of vitamins. There's another one called IPT. So lots of different IVs. I do actually do a copper and a zinc IV because my body's been low with copper recently.

So basically, each patient gets tested. The blood work gets done and you get tailor-made, the IVs that your body needs. So not everyone does the same. The treatments, I call it the heat pod. So you get into this huge spaceship and you put on this lobster suit, which you look ridiculous in. And if anyone sees my Instagram, you might see me dancing around to Britney Spears in it.

Basically, you get into this heat pod. And for an hour, your body is put up to the temperature of 180 degree heat because cancer hates heat. Now, it sounds scary, but your head's out. It's just like a sauna. You have a little bit of a sleep. It's not hard. Well, it's mind over matter.

Put some music on, close your eyes. you're monitored by a nurse the whole time, you know, you've got your heart monitor on, blood pressure. So you checked, you know, someone's watching you the whole time through the heat pod. So you do that three to four times in the time that you're at the clinic. So, and then after that, you go and do your IVs. So basically, the heat pod weakens the cancer and then you smash it with your IVs. So the cancer's all wobbly going, ah! And then the IVs go in and it's like shooting the cancer.

That's how I see it. We do ebu, which is a blood oxygen treatment. So basically they take five liters of blood. It goes through the ebu machine and then it comes back into the body. I kid you not, whenever I do ebu, my eyesight goes like stars. It's like all of a sudden I've got super eyes. And you can ask any person that does ebu. It's like a whole cleanse.

Your eyes just sparkle and it's like you've just got into like you can see even better than you could before. Huh, that's really interesting. Yeah, it's crazy. So they oxygenate your whole blood. We do red light therapy, which is really good for regenerating yourselves. And it's really good for anyone that's got aches and pains or injuries. So I'm sure you've heard of the red light therapy. It's getting really big nowadays.

You can go to a wellness clinic and get onto a red bed. I would recommend red light therapy to everybody. It's just the most wonderful thing for our bodies. What else do we do? We do diet. So the clinic is very much a vegan, very minimal protein. I end up coming back half the size that I am when I leave because I really struggle eating quite a lot of the vegan food. Not that I'm into meats and stuff, but I'm typical English. You know, we love toast and, you know, potatoes. So there's been a really hard change for me to change the diet. So when we go to Oasis, I do actually, the food is beautiful. about a week into it, I do start to struggle to keep eating the vegan food and start craving

some, you know, at dinner, I'm always like, can I just get some sourdough? They're like, no, you need to eat. So, but a lot of people go there and they love it. They love it. They love the food. You know, there's fresh fruit every morning. It's different fruit every morning. They do, you know, beautiful scrambled eggs and omelets and, you know, the food is amazing.

But I think because I've been quite a few times, I've done the menu. that often. I'm kind of like, oh, God, is that same, you know? But for anyone going there hasn't been, we'll think it's like a five-star Michelin restaurant. No, I got to ask you, because I so appreciate your honesty on this. You know, I joke that I'm a meatitarian. I love a good steak. You know, I love bacon. I probably shouldn't love bacon because it's so highly processed. But I would have a hard time with a vegan menu. I don't. like vegan food. I put it in my mouth and I'm like, get it off my tongue. No, it doesn't belong there. That's weird. Are you continuing on the vegan diet? Is that now for the rest of your life

you're going to be on a vegan diet? So basically I have to do two vegan days a week, which are not my favorite, but, you know, two days a week's easy. And other than that, I'm on a very clean, strict diet, but I'm allowed bits of protein here and there. And, you know, and two days. And I'm allowed sour dough, which is great. That's been a blessing. I'm allowed sweet potato. I'm allowed rice twice a week. So look, the diet isn't that bad.

But I think just when you come from first of all eating what you want to then being restricted, like so steak, for instance, every 14 days, we're allowed red meat. So those 14 days is like three months waiting for 14 days because I love steak too. But it's working. I actually do feel better in myself. with the diet. I've got more energy. I feel like I look 10 years younger, which is crazy. So I will continue this diet moving forward even after beating cancer because it's just become part of my life. And I actually enjoy food now when I get to have, you know, the piece of steak

or a chicken day. But the two vegan days, I do struggle. I'm not going to lie. And I'm really sorry, Oasis. But I do struggle with vegan food. And I really, really wish I could learn to love it. I really wish I could, I really wish I loved it, but I do struggle. Maybe if it tasted like something, maybe that maybe that would help. Well, the funny thing is they make, they make this like Shepard's Pie in the clinic and it does actually taste like Shepard's Pie. Like it, and it's not meat, it's fake meat. And I remember eating it the first time thinking, oh my God, it actually tastes like Shepard's Pie. But now, because I've had it and been there so many times, I'm kind of like, I know what it is.

Sort of an ignorance is bliss. Yes, yes. Now, I mean, you don't have any of the markers. I mean, your story, you're in the gym and you injure yourself. So obviously, you're working out. You're in good health. So you had none of the, you know, comorbidities that would make you a high likelihood to develop cancer.

What do you think brought it on? Honestly, I think, first of all, my immune system would shut down. I was working 14 hour days in my business. I believe now that I was in a trauma relationship at the time, which I didn't see until I got out of the, well, until the relationship ended. Emotional stress, trauma-based. I believe I was giving my body all the wrong things,

lack of sleep, you know, eating late at night, finishing work late at night. I believe lifestyle, the COVID vaccine, trauma and stress and depression that I didn't realize that I had at the time. I believe all those things and lifestyle brought on my body to switch off and for their cancer to grow. And they actually do say that breast cancer in the right side of the breast is emotional trauma. That's like you can Google that as well.

So there's a whole thing about where people get their cancer from and why. So I believe the last seven years of my life working too much. you know, trauma-based relationship that I do believe now that I was in now, I've come out of it. I believe all those things and diet, you know, drinking. I did drink quite a bit back then, you know, I'd come home from work and be stressed after work and I'd have a glass of wine. And I just think all that lifestyle and my body just switched off and the cancer cells grew. Sure.

So, and being in Australia, you know, we had a bad end. in the United States as far as COVID went, but Australia was like, hold my beer. We're going to become so tyrannical. So did you end up getting the COVID vaccine? I had it twice. Okay. And the only reason why I had it, honestly, I was so against it at the time. Look, I don't even go to the doctors and have antibiotics.

I'm just not a medicine girl. I only had it because there was no other way of me opening my business. At the time, I had seven staff waiting to be paid. you know, I couldn't keep my business closed and the only way I could reopen it to make money to pay everybody was to get the COVID vaccine. So they blackmailed people in Australia to do the COVID vaccine. You weren't allowed into the supermarket unless you had the COVID vaccine and we had to show vaccines on our phone that we'd had them done. So we were pushed into it. You know, at that point, my business is closed. I can't afford paying my house. You know, your car payment's

coming out. I was like, I have to go and get the vaccine so I can, start living again. And the government gave no help. You know, they didn't give any rent relief. So as your business is closed, you're still paying rent. So I was forced into the vaccine. And then of course, you know, six months later, now you have to have the second one. Otherwise, you have to close again. So I got forced into the two vaccines. And unfortunately, I do believe that is one of the reasons why my immune system has shut down. Yeah, I would definitely agree there. And yeah, I'm, it still makes me angry to this day. I know we're a number of years past it now, but I hope no one ever forgets what

the governments across the world did to their people, the amount of tyranny there. And Australia was literally one of the worst. I couldn't believe what they were doing in Australia. So I'm sorry that you were forced into that. But here you are, and you're such a great advocate for alternative cancer treatments. And I so appreciate that. We're coming up on a hard break. So I want to plug, number one, I found you on social media. You can, I think Chris has some of those. You can find Emma on X. You can find her on Instagram.

And also, of course, it wastes of hope. Chris has that website up right now. We can show you right now. This is a great place for you, ladies and gentlemen. If you hear that dreaded sea word when you go to the doctor, go to Tijuana, Mexico. I guarantee you you are going to love your treatment a whole lot more than what you get in conventional medicine. And Emma, you know, 20 seconds here. pitch it to the audience.

This place is my safe haven. I went there with three months to live, riddled in cancer, and I am almost cancer-free with one spot left, and that is all because of Dr. Contreras here, you can see on the screen. Dr. Contreras is my absolute hero, and I would recommend anyone that has been diagnosed with cancer to give them a call or reach out to me on my social media. You can ask me any questions. I'm happy for a call on the socials as well, and you can find me at Emma underscore Victoria J.

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I'm not strong enough and you basically have no future. So, later's pretty much. Haven't heard from him since that day. Haven't spoke to him. Hasn't asked me if I'm okay. and then he decided to then date my obviously ex best friend so they moved in together and are living a lovely happily life together which is crazy but um the funny thing is everything happens for a reason um i forgive him because i'm still alive i'm thriving and i believe that god got rid of him for a reason and at the time i didn't realize that i actually wasn't in a healthy relationship where now i look back and I'm like, that guy got removed for a reason. So I actually thank him for walking away because I believe if he had stayed, I wouldn't have been strong enough to do this journey. So he

gave me the strength that I did not know I had. He turned me into the inner warrior. I was left alone, heartbroken. I feel like sometimes you have to go to the bottom of the depths of the darkest places to rise. And that's exactly what I did. At the time, I was heartbroken. I was hurt. I was like, how can somebody leave a partner of seven years just because they've got sick? And at that point, I was like, you know, let's find something. Let's, let's, you know, I think I can travel to get treatment. He did not want to put any money into my survival. And I was like, wow, we've been together for seven years, not six months. His kids lived with us. You know, at the time I had a business. I was doing really well. You know, I believe that I contributed a lot

to the relationship and for the guy just to walk away is a coward and selfish. And I believe that he thought to himself, well, she can no longer serve me anymore. She's going to be dead soon. So see ya. And he did not want to part with any money. So God will serve him what is necessary. Karma, I definitely believe in. And I believe that my strength came from him walking away.

So I thank him. I thank him for leaving. And I'm so much more happy an hour, a year and a half on. And I'm like, what was I thinking? It's funny, you don't realize you're in a bad relationship or unhealthy relationship until you're fully out of it. That is so true. Just as I'm going to voluntarily become a spokesperson for man, for males across the world, and just say that this guy is, in fact, a coward.

And most of us, from the male perspective, would like to give him a swift kick to. to be behind. Maybe that's the best way I can say it. But it just, it blows my mind. I mean, to be with somebody for that long, to share all of your hopes, your dreams, your desires, to truly love somebody. And then as soon as, you know, cancer comes away, really anything, it could be anything. You go through a hard time and you expect that you're going to be able to rely on your partner to lean on them, that they can be strong when you are weak. And for him to react that way. And then the betrayal of your ex-best friend as well blows my mind. And I'm so happy to see that you are in a much better place that you've forgiven them, because obviously as Christians

were commanded to do so. But to identify that, hey, I'm in a better place. And I actually thank God that God removed this man from my life. Yes. It's funny. At the time when it happened, I honestly got over to Mexico the first time. And my sister came with me. And I came with me. He's going to turn up. He's going to realize he's made a mistake. I honestly thought he was just having a meltdown. And then when I realized, no, this guy's walked away and hasn't even asked if I'm okay. Am I alive? He dumped me over the phone, over a phone call. So tuck his things left, packed his things away and dumped me on the phone. And it was mind-blowing at the time. But looking back, I'm not that girl that I was then. I am somebody. I'm a different person and I and I'm grateful for that and I'm grateful for God giving me the strength and I'm grateful for God for removing him out my life because since then I've become myself again. I'm so much happier. I wake up every morning. I you know I'm grateful for another day. I just think everything's happened for a reason and you know him getting with the ex best friend. She obviously was meant to be removed out of my life and she can enjoy my ex life because hey I wasn't even that. happy anyway. So she can be miserable. They can be miserable together. And I'm sure they probably are very miserable together. But my goodness, there's etiquette. I mean, they make movies about this

where you don't dump somebody over the phone. You give them enough respect to go sit them down and say, hey, it's not really working out. It's not you. It's me, whatever. You know, all the cliches there, right? But no, he didn't even have the stones to go and do something like that. Nope. And didn't even check, no, it's been a year and a half, hasn't even sent a message or an email. You know, I'm glad you're doing well, Emma. I'm glad you're alive. I've had absolute zero contact after seven years of living with him. And he had two children who I absolutely loved, which is such a shame because, you know, I was in their lives and, you know, I won't get to see them.

And that's really sad too. And I hope one day when they get old enough in their 18s and they're allowed to make choices, they'll come and see me, but seven years is a long time, and his kids lived with us. So, you know, it was a hard lesson, but again, I do believe God did everything, removed him out of my path for a reason. Well, I would agree with that, and primarily because now you have this incredible testimony, and that's something that's so big within Christianity, right? And testimonies, we tend to look at them and say, you know, my testimony of my conversion,

but your testimony can also be the things that you've gone through in your life and become a stronger person over. And so when somebody, and you're such a great spokesperson, as I said, for Oasis of Hope, but when somebody comes and says, I have cancer, what do I do? And they can talk to you or they can listen to an interview with what you've gone through. And from going from a very healthy life, thought you had it all, a great job, you know, a living boyfriend of seven years. and have all that taken away from you and to come out better, you're going to give a lot of hope to a lot of people. Thank you. Thank you.

It's funny. I love waking up in the morning, and I love going on to my direct messages on Instagram, and I love talking to people. And then I had a lady the other day, and we did a phone call, and she said, I was having a meltdown. She said, I feel so much better. You know, like I gave her my wise wisdom of what I think.

And then the next minute I receive a beautiful message from her, and then she sent me flowers to my house. And I'm like, I get pleasure and rewards for making those people feel better because I know how dark it was on my own a year and a half ago. I wish I had a me to talk to who'd gone through it,

who'd been somewhere else, who tried alternative treatments. You know, I have had another lady her husband walked away. And I said, you know what? He's done you a favor. So, you know, she's like, I hope you're right. I'm like, in time we will giggle about this

and you'll be like, you were right. So, you know, I'm glad that I've got the experience now that I can give this to people and give them hope where they feel like they've gotten on. Yeah, I think that's absolutely not only occurring, but will continue to occur. Because you have such a vivacious personality. You know, you can't help but connect with you,

even over an interview or just watching you on a show. You're giving encouragement to these people that are at their lowest point. And what I love about that is that it's going to pull them away from the pharmaceutical, you know, medicines, the established hospital protocols that are killing people. Look, I've told this story before on the show. I'm a former EMT. I saw people as I drove them to the hospital. I would get to know patients, actually, because they would call 911 over and over and over again.

I would watch people who had gotten cancer and then they were going through the chemo. radiation and over a series of months, I would see them become a totally different person. They lost completely who they were. And ladies and gentlemen, you don't have to go through that. Your loved one doesn't have to go through that. You can follow my guest, Emma, to a Wayses of Hope. And actually, the worst thing you're going to have to deal with is a little bit of veganism. And a little bit of heat. There you go. And a few IVs. Look, it's not for the faint heart. But I tell you what, after day seven of being in that clinic, you become like superpowers. You feel amazing.

And no cancer patient can ever say, wow, I feel great, you know, energy levels. And even coming home, like, I'm at the gym every day. I'm living a normal life, apart from the diet. But, you know, I feel fitter than I did in my 20s, which is ridiculous. Yeah, the clinic is. just unbelievable and it's funny going back to people that have done chemo and radiation and surgery what I witness now is 80% of the people that go to the clinic have tried that first so they've tried it first either it hasn't worked

or the cancers come back within two years so they've got no other choice to go to the clinic if you go to the clinic before chemo and radiation and surgery your body is fit and healthy and you've got more chance of killing it. So because I've gone there without any, you know, surgery or chemo, my body has gone there without being damaged. So that's why my results became so good to start with. I went in as a clean, you know, a body that hasn't been attacked by chemo and it's worked quicker. But when people are going in after they've damaged all those cells and they've killed the body from chemo, they're starting back, you know, they're starting way back here rather than

here. So it's, I'd just say anyone that's been diagnosed, go and have a consultation, have a look at options before you listen to the doctors because they are making money from chemo. You are just a money ticket to the medicine world. The pharmaceutical companies are making money and chemotherapy has not been updated for 17 years and you're putting that into your body. Yeah, I wouldn't do it. And I love that you bring this up because look, if you will have, gone through the traditional methods and it's not working. And you're just, you're at your last straw and you're like, I got to do something different. Please go to the oasis of hope. But more than that, even, I want to use this platform and I want to use you as a guest to

promote the idea that we've got to stop this. We have got to stop. We hear that dreaded C word diagnosis and we start with the chemo and the radiation immediately. Stop it, ladies and gentlemen. Don't do it. Go to the Oasis of Hope immediately upon that diagnosis. And then you can be like my guest here who had a healthy enough body to actually be able to fight it. I mean, you're a success story. And I never want to tell anyone that this, you know, Oasis of Hope or anything for that matter is a silver bullet. You go here, you're going to be cured.

That's not always the case. But what you just said, you could feel good. You're not going to be sick, running to the toilet, to vomit. as you're dealing with the chemo and the radiation. Even if it is the last chapter of the book of your life, you don't have to live in misery. So correct. So correct.

And anyone that's got any questions about the clinic, my DMs are always open. Excellent. Well, we're winding down to the end of the show. And so I want to, once again, number one, promote A WASIS of Hope, and Chris can bring that back up again. Great website.

You can see it. It's a great resort. Almost it looks like a resort. But it is a hospital. It is a hospital, yes. But it looks like a resort. You can spend some time in Mexico doing all these different treatments that, honestly, people pay good money just to feel a little bit better. The vitamin C injections, the B injections, the red light therapy.

But this is all designed to help you in your battle with cancer. So please tell us just a little bit more about it. Well, the one thing that OASIS does is the vaccines. There's five different vaccines that fight cancer, depending on what cancer you have. and what stage you're at is what determines what vaccines you get. And the vaccines are the one thing that has killed the cancer in my body, as well as the treatments. The treatments prepare you for the vaccines.

The vaccines are the killer ones that get rid of it. I would recommend anybody to go. Yeah, I mean, I definitely recommend this as well. Go to Oasis of Hope. And then for following you on social media, you just said your DMs are always open. I want people to contact you, to get in communication with you. so that you can offer them hope and a clear direction on which path to take. So how do people follow you on Instagram, X, wherever else you're at?

So it's Emma underscore Victoria J on Instagram. I'm on Facebook, which is Emma Victoria Johnson. Or you can find me on TikTok, which is Emma Victoria underscore J. All right, there we go. Also on X, I found you there at Emma underscore Victoria J. so you can see. Here's some great videos that you have of going through the treatment

with the good doctor. But you are just such an encouraging interview. I so cherish the time that we've had together. I want to thank you for being a spokesperson. You know, you went through some horrible times what people wouldn't wish upon their worst enemy, but you came out of it, smiling, happy, thriving in life.

And so I thank you for sharing your testimony with my audience. Thank you so much for having. me. Honestly, it's been a pleasure this morning. Thank you for having me. Absolutely. All right. Well, I'm going to go ahead and close this out. If you hold on one more minute post-production to say our goodbyes, I'd appreciate it. But again, thank you for coming on the show. Thank you. All right, there you go. Ladies and gentlemen, I love these types of interviews because we can do something. You know, this cancer diagnosis does not have to be the end. You can receive good treatment, one that doesn't make you feel sick. So please check out a Wases of Hope and get in contact with my guest. Church and State is brought to you in part by Colonial Life, Spokane, Independent Agents, Finders Insurance, and Mark37.com.

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