The Prepper Broadcasting Network - Church & State -I've Been all Four Characters in the Prodigal Son

Episode Date: June 26, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:07 Pocan Valley could become a sanctuary city of a different kind. Nadey, Councilman Caleb Collier, says that this proposal... I'm proposing that the city of Spokane Valley issue of proclamation stating that our city is a Second Amendment sanctuary. Today on Church and State, we'll be covering aliens, prophecy, tomorrow wars, and I've been every character in the prodigal sun. Hello, Christian Patriots, and welcome to Church and State where we drive morality and religion over tolerance and apathy. And I'm your host, Caleb Collier. your favorite far-right shock jock and the show that talks about politics and religion. Jesus Christ is our referee, so it's always nice and clean real quick.
Starting point is 00:01:00 And before you put on your tinfoil hat, we'll go to the website. So this will be one of those shows. You remember the movie Signs, Chris, where Mel Gibson's character comes in and like the whole family's got tinfoil hats on? You remember that? Um, I forget. Yeah, because there's aliens or demons. They're coming in.
Starting point is 00:01:22 They all got their tinfoil hats on. We're going to be covering a lot of that today. We can talk about aliens, prophecy, psychics. Nice. It's going to be fun. But fill out that registration form. Get our newsletter. And, of course, personal phone call from the king of talk radio.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Is that too far? It might be too far. Might be jumping a little bit ahead of yourself there. This is the space I live in. I listen to other talk show hosts, and I'm like, I'm way better. And then my mom calls me. And my mom's like, you're way better. Okay, well, your mom, you know, is a wise woman.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Yeah, very wise. You're not actually on talk radio right now, so. But soon. It's going to take some work to make king. The jester of talk radio? Now you might be talking. Okay, there we go. As long as we can have a little comedy, a little bit of fun.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Hey, you're going to get to talk to me if you fill that out. While you're there, check out the most recent episodes. We're hitting you five days a week. day through Friday with all kinds of great shows that were covering insane topics and just hilarious antics of your host and, of course, dropping bombs and wagging my fingers at politicians and church leaders alike. So go check those out. Also, the featured guest page, incredible people that have joined us over the years, more and more. I didn't even, I, I, I teased it, but I've been communicating with Mike Adams. Mike Adams, Chris, the Health Ranger. Come on now. Epic.
Starting point is 00:02:52 The guy's amazing, and he's been so accurate over and over and over again. He's coming on the show. We booked him. That guy's going to the top, dude. Nice. He has to go to the top of the page. Mike Adams, guest on Church and State. This is going to be fun.
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Starting point is 00:03:45 of prepper broadcasting network and nrb tv and cdm and this new one faith and freedom television There's so many great things, newscasters, your news. We're all over the place. All the social medias. You can find us everywhere. And in fact, even YouTube now, but I'm being real cautious on the YouTube. I'm not putting everything out there because they tend to pull down our stuff. There's a lot of buzzwords I can't say, a lot of topics I can't discuss on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Yeah, you can't talk about anything interesting. Which is, I know, which is terrible. It sucks. It makes me unhappy. Because all this stuff I want to talk about YouTube is like I can't talk about that We're pulling this Guess what we banned you again
Starting point is 00:04:29 My fear is we'll get back up to that high numbers We had so many people watch this on YouTube And they'll pull the carpet right out from under us I hate YouTube I don't like you This show is obviously not going on YouTube Yeah I think we blew that already already I need Chris
Starting point is 00:04:49 You probably need like I need like an electrical current sent to the chair that I'm sitting in. And if I start talking about stuff that you're like, no, we needed this episode for YouTube. Just all of a sudden I'll be like a cat. Like, it'll be great. I don't know if I want to give you that kind of power. I think that might be a good idea.
Starting point is 00:05:08 No, it's the worst idea I've ever had. Anyway, hit the donate button, keep us on the air. And lastly, if you want to get a hold of us, church and state 1776 at proton.me. With that, where the wild ride begins. I just think that, do you think you're weirder than I am, or we're comparable? I don't know about weirder, weird in different ways, maybe. Give me one example of a weirder way that you're different or elevated.
Starting point is 00:05:40 I spent my weekend learning a new coding system on a new application for... Okay, that's pretty weird. That sounds miserable. It was very interesting. I would be, that's torture for me. Like, if Al-Qaeda ever grabbed me, they'd be like, no, we're going to teach you to code. And I'd be like, I'll talk, I'll talk. Stop it.
Starting point is 00:06:04 It's the worst thing in the world. No. Oh. I hope nobody, I hope my enemies aren't listening to me. We'll just strive them down in front of a computer, like clockwork orange. Now they know what to do. You're not going to be able to blink. You're going to learn how to code.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Oh, the worst in the world. Thank you. Let's talk about how politicians, NGOs, how they like to funnel money. How they funnel money around? And we have an example of this. We've got a video that Chris actually sent me that I want to show you. And then, of course, I'm going to go in and talk about the fact that this isn't just one individual that's doing this or one NGO that's doing this. This is universal.
Starting point is 00:06:47 I'm going to choose that word intentionally because of what we're going to be talking about later. But Chris, go ahead and show them the video of this independent journalists, which I love these independent journalists. They're popular. California decided to raise your taxes. But here's one thing that really stood out to me. Do you remember the Stop Nick Shirley Act? There's a group called Shurla that is lobbying the government and pushing that bill to prevent journalists from independently reporting on immigration support services. Well, guess what they get in the budget?
Starting point is 00:07:13 They get $5 million. I decided to go back and look into what's happened over the last few years. Sherla has gotten $40 million in your taxpayer funds to lobby the government. They've also somehow were a voting center. And guess where they spend most of their time doing a lot of their work? Oh, Los Angeles. I wonder if there was an election that went on in Los Angeles. I got a little bit weird when it comes to the data.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Yeah, this is the loop. Churla donates to Newsom's campaign. And in fact, they were one of the top contributors to his campaign when he was defending against the recall efforts. I don't know how this is legal, but he essentially gives these NGOs millions of dollars and then they donate back to his campaign. And it is so dirty and so corrupt, but somehow legal. One thing that's understated is how much money the Shurla NGO actually receives. If you look here, Shurla is one of the organization that is funding protests and law firms for illegal immigrants. Sherla has received over $15 million and their website is full of protest photos.
Starting point is 00:08:25 And if you look down here, look at this. We have people calling out Gavin Newsom for funding the protests. These are paid protests. The state spent over $100 million of taxpayer money on this NGO, Shurla, to go out and do paid protesting for left-wing advocacy. People are very upset about that. And if we go down here again to the No-Pings protest ordinance. I think we've found out of course.
Starting point is 00:08:51 proven the point. And to answer, and who is that lady? She was like a workout reality star. She's a lesbian. But she's conservative. Anyway, my wife would probably know. But to answer her question, it's not legal, but they don't care. They've been operating in this way for so long without any repercussions, knowing full well
Starting point is 00:09:16 that the public, there might be a little bit of outcry from the people who are. are paying attention, but the vast majority of people, they don't care about this. They don't care about it at all. You get excuses all the time. This is my person. That's my party. I don't care if they're breaking the law. They're doing the right thing.
Starting point is 00:09:37 No matter how they get there, they're doing the right thing. It's not legal, but they don't care. And they know full well, nothing's going to happen to them. And it's not just Gavin Newsome. and this Sherlock. It's happening across the board in every state, every county, at the federal level, at the local level. It's happening constantly. People are moving money.
Starting point is 00:10:05 They're donating to an NGO, and that NGO is helping that politician with the same money. And where does that money come from? As they stated, from you, the taxpayer. You're literally building your own tyranny. you're taking part of it. You're voting these people in and you're not holding them accountable. Doesn't matter, Republican or Democrat.
Starting point is 00:10:29 You're not holding them accountable. I've got to tell you every single time something like this is revealed, there should be such a public outcry that this person spends the rest of their life in jail or at least a good portion of it. And then what will happen politics could fix itself.
Starting point is 00:10:54 It could be like, oh, we're not going to get away with it anymore, so we better stop doing it because I don't want to spend time in prison. But instead, we have the same status quo scenario that only a few people pay attention to. Only a few people ask the questions. And then there's that apathetic approach to it. Oh, yeah, that's just politics. That's just government.
Starting point is 00:11:19 is totally corrupt. Nothing I can do about it. It's that kind of mentality that leads you to a life of slavery. If our founding fathers would have had that mentality, gosh, Great Britain, man, they tax us so high. Look at the tax rate. Have you seen, have you actually examined the tax rate that Americans, the colonies, right, that we had to submit to the British crown under? They were minuscule, miniscule, Chris, you've seen this. It doesn't even register with what we compare when we compare it to the taxes
Starting point is 00:11:55 that we currently pay under our own government. But if our founding fathers would have been like, that's just the crown, that's just monarchy for you. You know, we just got to pay. We'd still be drinking tea.
Starting point is 00:12:10 It needs more milk in it. We'd be eating beans on toast. What is wrong with you British people? You conquer the known world. You conquer it for spices. And then you're like, we got all these spices. What are we going to do with them? Put them in our food.
Starting point is 00:12:28 No. Gosh, what would you do something? Beans on toast, fish and chips? You think that needs spices? Get out of here. We control India. We got all the curry. We got curry coming out of our ears.
Starting point is 00:12:43 What are we going to do with it? Put it in the food. I challenge you to a duel, sir. Right there. How dare you mess with British cuisine. It's the most delicious in the world. What are wrong with you, British people? I swear.
Starting point is 00:13:03 People are weird. It really are. But imagine that. We'd still be living under the crown right now. And in reality, we are living under the crown right now. We still are. We just changed the leadership. Right?
Starting point is 00:13:21 We sure we had a great experiment. It didn't last very long. Certainly didn't last 250 years. With that, let's talk about psychics. You just love psychics. Psychics are, they're so great. We used to make fun of this. You still see it in Hollywood and stuff.
Starting point is 00:13:43 People go in and read my poem. They're like, The love line over here says that you're going to meet your soulmate. You're like, I'm already married. Oh, what I meant to say was you're with your soulmate. Oh, okay. You get the tarot cards. You're like, why is every single time you get a tarot card reading, one of the cards is death?
Starting point is 00:14:07 You notice that, Chris? There's always death. It's almost like people die. I know. Isn't that amazing? Like the tarot card reader's like, well, they're like 60 years old. I'm going to pick the death card. Somebody's going to die.
Starting point is 00:14:24 It's all fake. We all know it. We used to make fun of it. You're reading the tea leaves. Ooh, it forms a certain design here, which means this. But people still go to it. You still got this stupid 1-800 psychic hotlines. where you can waste tons of your hard-earned money
Starting point is 00:14:45 by calling some psychic to tell you all about your life instead of going out and actually living it, being in charge of your own destiny. Nope, my psychic says that because the moon and the position it is with the other planetary alignments that I shouldn't go outside today.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Good advice. Solid. I'm going to tell you. Well, we got another psychic. She got 23 million followers. 23 million people are watching this Fruit Loop. And she claims a UFO mothership will appear above Hard Rock Stadium during Brazil versus Scotland at the 2026 World Cup on June 24th. Oh, Chris, as of the time of this recording, it's June 24th. Whoa, that could be happening right now. Right now. Right now.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Aliens are coming. She says players, officials, and hundreds of fans could be abducted by aliens, beings before being returned all on live TV. The prediction went vile after she claimed to have had the same dream twice. I'm going to go on a limb here. And I'm going to suggest that this isn't going to happen. Chris, do you think that's fair to suggest that there's probably not going to be an alien abduction? during the Brazil-Scottland soccer game.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Well, you know, she did have the same dream twice. Twice, yeah. Which, you know what probably happened. You know, they say you can have weird dreams when you eat something, right? You eat something that maybe you're not normally accustomed to. Probably what this girl did, being Brazilian. She probably tried English cuisine and had these weird dreams from the lack of spices. That?
Starting point is 00:16:45 Kind of seems weird. Yeah, it's fitting. It makes sense in my head as I'm rolling through this. Even if there's war or two occur, okay, there's only two possibilities here. There could be a Project Bluebeam. They could send this image into the sky through modern technology and claim to have these abductions.
Starting point is 00:17:08 They certainly seem to be rolling in with these alien ideas, really changing the thought process. of people throughout the world who now believe that aliens are among us, that aliens are going, there's going to be a mass reveal very soon in the future. We seem to be
Starting point is 00:17:27 experiencing that predictive programming. It's occurring before our very eyes. Or it could be some type of military tech. They could decide to use something like that. All of it, to me, is just a plan of the enemy to get people's mind shifted away from
Starting point is 00:17:43 the true Savior, Jesus Christ, and up to the skies to be looking for alien beings that in reality are demonic. There's no doubt about that. I don't know anybody with sound theology can look at what people are called aliens and the encounters that they have with them and not say, uh, that's a demon. Yep. Uh, experimenting on human beings. Uh, where did we hear about?
Starting point is 00:18:09 Where did we read about that before? Oh, yeah, that's right. It was in the Bible. It's in the Bible experimenting on human beings. beings creating hybrids. Yeah, these are demonic entities. But perhaps they're using even stranger predictive programming. I remember watching a movie not too long ago with Chris Pratt, who I think is a pretty good actor. And it was called the Tomorrow War. Now, Tomorrow War was a really interesting idea that aliens attacked humanity, and then humanity in the future
Starting point is 00:18:42 developed a time machine where they'd run out of soldiers to fight the alien threat so they had to go back into the past and grab people to fight in a future war. And if they were able to survive that, they would send them back to the past to live the rest of their lives. Really weird kind of things going on here. But how did the aliens come about? When did they decide to reveal themselves? Well, in the Tomorrow Wars movie, and I got a video, I got a clip here, Chris, if you could get that clip ready with the Tomorrow Wars. I got a clip here to show you that it all took place during a soccer match. Go ahead, Chris. This is very strange.
Starting point is 00:19:57 You've got Brazil playing a team in blue, which, by the way, Scotland does play in blue. It is their colors, white and blue there. during a soccer match here or football, sorry, perhaps I should say it correctly, is when the aliens decide to come. And this movie was released back in 2021. Are they using predictive programming once again upon us unwitting, unknowing subjects? Could be the case. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:29 I don't discount it. I mean, if I were to call it as I see it, and I'm recording, remember, I'm recording, I'm recording on the 24th, but the soccer match has not occurred yet. I would say there's probably 90% sure that this isn't going to happen. But on the off chance, I'm leaving the 10% out there. On the off chance that it does occur, I'm going to tell you, it's either demonic or something government, like Project Blue Beam.
Starting point is 00:20:59 There's a difference? It is, that's true. It is the same thing. Chris is bringing it up a good point. It's like the office. Corporate wants you to figure out the difference between these two pictures. Pam's over there like, it's the same picture. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Demonic in government? Pretty sure that's the same thing. And while I'm on the subject of soccer, watch a real sport. Oh, Chris, I said it. I did it. I'm angering so many people right now. I'm sorry. But soccer needs to police itself.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Okay, I'm just going to go out on a limb here, and I think most people are going to agree with me on this one. Because if you've ever watched a soccer game, and you'll see somebody running, right, running, they're dribbling the ball with their feet, and somebody comes in to try to get them, and they slide tackle, and they completely miss. But the other player goes down,
Starting point is 00:21:53 falls to the ground, and they're riding in pain. Oh, my gosh, he broke my nose. There's no blood. That never is. Right, but they're rolling around on the ground, and the ref comes in, yellow card, red card, it's going up, and the player that didn't even touch the player with the ball, he's ejected from the game or he's got a warning.
Starting point is 00:22:11 You ever seen this? Yeah. Yeah. And that's why I can't watch soccer. It's ridiculous. Okay, look, these guys are athletes. I couldn't do what they're doing. They're running up and down the field constantly.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Kicking the ball, head, I mean, it's impressive, okay? But because of that, because you just fake injuries constantly and everybody knows it and we all make fun of it, I'm going to stick to hockey. But if you get hit with a puck, a frozen puck, going 100 miles an hour, and you get hit with it, you go down and guess what? The game's still going on. Look, the refs don't blow the whistle.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Nope, you're down on the ground. You're like, I think I broke my leg. And they're like, get out of the way. You pansy, we got a goal to score. And you've got to get up on your own. You know what? Many of them I've seen it. They get back into the game.
Starting point is 00:23:05 They got their foot, they're like limping around. They're trying to block a shot. Like, hit me my other leg. That's a sport. Feeling good. I'm feeling froggy. Oh. And one more thing on this subject.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Well, I'm thinking about it. Because I've been making fun of psychics, right? The tarot cards and all this kind of garbage. This idea that we have this esoteric knowledge that we're able to look at at the sky, the planets, the alignment, the palms of our hands, whatever it was. We could gain access to hidden information to be able to predict your future. And as Christians, we reject that. Why? Because the Bible tells us to. Numerous times, the Bible tells us not to go to these seers, not to pay them any attention.
Starting point is 00:23:58 In some cases, you get a little more on the Old Testament side to kill them. Why has the American church developed its own kind of seers? Why have we allowed this to gain so much traction to gain a hold in our Christianity? It's a great question. Why have we allowed for self-designated prophets to tickle our ears to let us believe that Every single time they hold their hands and they pray for us, that God is going to honor and prosper. You're going to come into money.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Get predictions about future events that don't come true. They really make Christians look stupid. Make Christians on the same level, the same playing field as these psychics that I was just making fun of. Do you think perhaps the American Church would have more credibility if we policed our own if we got rid of a lot of these false prophets
Starting point is 00:25:17 and return to the simple message that's found in the gospel to go and make disciples to teach everyone what Jesus had taught the disciples the apostles to care for widows and orphans
Starting point is 00:25:32 and I'm not saying that we shouldn't when a brother or sister is ill is facing cancer or something that we shouldn't lay hands on them and pray for them, pray for healing. But to have somebody say, I declare you will be healed in Jesus' name, I don't think that's a bridge I'm willing to take. In fact, I know it's not a bridge I'm willing to take. I'm not willing to go down that path.
Starting point is 00:26:03 If he wills it, he wills it. If he wants it to occur, it will occur. And nothing, nothing human beings. he does or doesn't do is going to stand in the way of God's will. Stop positioning yourself where you are the master, that you control the actions of God, that you can pull out that genie lamp and rub it and God give me my three wishes. It's not how this works.
Starting point is 00:26:36 God is all-powerful, and God can literally stop the sun in the sky. God can make a prophet, run faster than a chariot. God can perform miracles, turn water into wine, raise people from the dead, calm a storm. He can do all that. But just because you declare yourself a prophet doesn't mean that he will. His mystery, his designs, his plans are a mystery to us. And anyone, anyone who claims that they know, without a shadow of doubt, the will of God for a specific circumstance, you're not much better than the psychics that we all make fun of.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Food for thought. All right, with that, let's move on. I think I've beaten that subject to death. let's move on and perhaps anger more people. I love to go to the New American. It's honestly a primary source for me. It's one of the best news agencies out there, my opinion. And so I go to them again.
Starting point is 00:27:54 New American has a report, Foreign Agent for Israel, gain control over Charlie Kirk's show after his murder. I can already feel the daggers coming out, Chris. I already feel it. But I'm going to pursue truth. You know that, ladies and gentlemen. I'm going to pursue this truth because we all feel it.
Starting point is 00:28:17 We all have those questions surrounding the assassination of my old boss. And I'm going to get into that right after the break. This is Caleb Collier with Church and State. Media. Ladies and gentlemen, if you're not sleeping on my pillow, do you even Patriot? I got to tell you, this is the most wonderful stuff from a man who's given it all for your freedoms. whether it be the pillow, the sheets, or the slippers, I absolutely adore my pillow. My pillow has the greatest products around. I know when I want to shuffle around in my bathrobe and slippers and yell at the neighbors,
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Starting point is 00:29:16 And we were back and thank you for staying with us. You're over at church and state. media, or at least I hope you are. And I'm going to get back into more on the Charlie Kirk assassination. But first, let's plug one of our, or let's plug a bunch of our great affiliates. I told Chris doing a smorgas board. Chris likes that, the smorgas board of affiliates.
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Starting point is 00:30:15 I love this stuff. I love the tech I have surrounding me, even if I don't understand all of it, Chris. I'm not coding it. Don't worry, I'm not coding it. But get a ghost phone, please. Use Galileo. Speaking of Brett Miller. A social media application tied to the satellites, so it's not going to go down,
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Starting point is 00:32:19 All right, with that, let's go back. We're talking about a foreign agent for Israel getting control over Charlie Kirk's show after his murder. A new investigation by journalist Max Blumenthal of the Gray Zone argues that the Charlie Kirk Show came under the control of a federally registered agent of Israel after Kirk was killed. After Charlie Kirk's assassination, his show remained with Salem Media Network,
Starting point is 00:32:44 where Brad Parscale, a Republican digital strategist and former Trump campaign manager, had recently become chief strategy officer. Shortly after the tragic Utah event, Parscale had also began working as a registered foreign agent for Israel. Here we go again. And look, once again, because I know. know what's going to happen. And I hate the fact that I got to say this all the time. But just because you talk about Israel doesn't mean you're anti-Semitic. It's ridiculous to assume so. No, I'm just reporting on the information here. I'm reporting what the new American writes and what Max Blumenthal has
Starting point is 00:33:23 discovered. According to Blumenthal, Pascal, registered as a foreign agent of Israel's Ministry of Foreign Affairs on September 18th, eight days after Charlie Kirk was shot at Utah Valley State University during the first stop of his American comeback tour. You see, Charlie Kirk, and the article goes on to talk about this quite a bit, but Charlie Kirk got his, really his start from a lot of Israeli money, a lot of these super PACs. The article spells this out, it directs, has direct information that you can look up yourself, and maybe we'll, we'll tie this in. to the show notes. But then he started to ask questions.
Starting point is 00:34:14 See, initially, the money's coming in. You're kind of going off of the status quo. The vast majority of American Christians are dispensationalists. I just believed. But as Charlie Kirk, and especially when he started the faith department that I worked for, he started to get connected to a lot of different Christians. Christians with different ideas on this subject. Became friends with people like Doug Wilson.
Starting point is 00:34:37 and I think he was introduced to covenant theology. And he started to push back against this. And he allowed turning point to be a place of free speech ideas, bringing in people like Megan Kelly and Tucker Carlson who had different belief systems surrounding the nation of Israel. And he got pushback. And I'll tell you something about Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk was not the type of individual that you were going to bully.
Starting point is 00:35:06 And once he did start pushing back, once he did start asking the wrong, types of questions, he got attacked. He was treated horribly by the individuals who had been funding him. He was told, you stay in line. You don't go off into the weeds on these subjects. And you started to see him, especially the last few months of his life. You started to see him pushing back, asking those questions, saying, going on making Kelly and saying, I'm not allowed to criticize Israel. Personally for me, I think that's why they shut them up. I think that's why they shut them up, because this is a man who had the year of the
Starting point is 00:35:55 youth. Probably could have ran for president. A lot of people say that. Probably could have and probably could have won. He had the year of the younger generation. And now the Charlie Kirk show continues. But it's ran by people while they stay in their lane. Let's just put it that way. And they say things like Charlie Kirk would have supported the Iranian war. When Erica Kirk was asked about that directly, she said, she couldn't say that she wished Charlie was still here so that he could give us his opinion. But Charlie did give us his opinion. He did talk about the fact that he didn't want to be involved in any more foreign wars. When this whole thing went down with Thomas Massey, the Charlie Kirk show under the new leadership was saying Charlie Kirk would not have supported Thomas Massey.
Starting point is 00:36:49 on this. And yet, Charlie Kirk's own words about Thomas Massey were, he's my favorite representative. He's the best that America has. Look, the author and even myself as your host, I'm not saying that this proves without a shadow of a doubt that the nation of Israel had something to do with the death of Charlie Kirk. What I'm saying and what this article says is that the people behind it now are the people that have an agenda, clear-cut. And it's one where they don't want you questioning this relationship. They don't want you questioning our involvement in all of these foreign entanglements. They want you to stick with the status quo.
Starting point is 00:37:39 They're religious right. The idea that, man, Israel is God's chosen people. They're the linchpin. They're the focus. You hear it over and over and over again. Glenn Bex and Mark Levins, the Sean Hannity's They're all pushing
Starting point is 00:37:58 They're all promoting The International Association of Christians and Jews Or Fellowship of Christians and Jews You hear these commercials Every single time you turn them on Pray for Israel Pray for peace Pray for America
Starting point is 00:38:14 Pray for every single person on this world But not that one nation would be blessed above another No that all Will come to know Christ and as you apply that to your own personal experience, know this, that there are many, many with testimonies about how low they had to be made in order to finally come to Christ. That's my own personal one. I had to be made low.
Starting point is 00:38:49 I had to go through pain to come to this, to come to this belief structure. total belief that Christ is king. Many of you don't have that story. Many of you didn't have to go through what I've had to go through or what I've put other people through. And man, I'm envious of that one. All I want is for people to know Christ. It's going to be the overall theme.
Starting point is 00:39:22 The biggest contribution I can possibly do for Christianity is to use the platform that God blessed me with. to get you right with him, not right with a nation, not right with an individual, with him, no matter how that looks. From there, I want to talk about the prodigal son. This comes from the idea, I guess. I got so many muses out there. I just talk to people and all of a sudden it's like, I'm going to talk about that on the show.
Starting point is 00:39:58 The prodigal son, every person's familiar with this story. the prodigal son the son who got a little too big for his britches decided to ask for his inheritance early and then went out into the world and squandered it
Starting point is 00:40:16 on the things of this world of pleasures wine and women gambling and he ran out of that money the good times just did not last and as he's sitting there with the pigs the most unclean
Starting point is 00:40:35 animal to the Jews, eating their slop, he realizes he can go back to the father's house. Be a servant there. Be a slave. And it would be better than the situation that he's in. So he humbles himself. He goes back to the father. And as soon as the father sees him, he runs out to the road to meet him, and throws a robe on him.
Starting point is 00:41:03 And is so blessed. that his son, his wayward son, has come back. There's another character in this as well. The son who didn't leave. The son who was a good steward. As we look at this, we say, man, this is the son that I would be blessing. It's the one that didn't steal half my money, squander it.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Stayed true, faithful. But that son had something in his heart. It had jealousy, angered, towards his brother. He was self-righteous. There's a lot we can learn from this story. And there have been many, many of pastors, many people who know the Bible much better than I do that have done entire great sermons on this. But as I was thinking about this, I've realized that I have been all four characters in this story. I've been the younger son. He represents the sinner and also the repentant believer. Straight from God.
Starting point is 00:42:08 straight hard as in my life straight far too far just that's why i started saying show me a man who has no regrets and i'll show you a liar i've been the older son i've been self-righteous i've looked down my nose that people they're going through similar things that i beat or still struggle with and i've looked down on them at least i don't do that i'm staying firm on this You be legalistic, entitled, filled with anger. I've also been the Father, and that represents God. I'm not saying that I'm God. But I have been compassionate, merciful, eager for reconciliation.
Starting point is 00:43:00 I've done that too. Perhaps not as much. But I've been that character in my life. I've been the younger son. I've been the older son. I've been the father. And you're like, well, who was the fourth? Who was the fourth, Caleb?
Starting point is 00:43:18 Oh, I've been the pigs. Oh, absolutely. I've been the pigs. I've been the pigs. They're unaware of the filth that they're in. I've been the pig. They're just lounging in the mud, eating that filth of whatever, the table scraps of the farmer.
Starting point is 00:43:41 I've been that. I've been the heathen that has been unaware of the surroundings that they find themselves in. And perhaps that was the process all along. From pig to the younger prodigal son to the older son, the goal of becoming like the father. And sometimes we go, we bounce back and forth between these different characters in the prodigal son's story.
Starting point is 00:44:16 We get to that father point. And we fall back. We become legalistic. We become the older son. We struggle with sin again. And we become that prodigal. We become that younger son. But I'll tell you where we never go back to.
Starting point is 00:44:33 We may have started as a pig, but we don't go back there. We're not unaware. Because once Christ is in us, you can't get away from him. That Holy Spirit is always going to be there. So yeah, we vacillate Between legalists
Starting point is 00:44:54 Looking down at our noses Falling into despair Being prodigal But the whole time as the Bible directs us As Paul told us Follow me as I follow Christ Keep our eye On the Savior, on the Father
Starting point is 00:45:16 Knowing full will That in this world we're never going to achieve sin no more but it's a beautiful story it's one that we should all be living or at least that's my thought church and state is brought to in part by colonial life spokane independent agents finders insurance and mark three seven dot com i'm caleb collier i was born for a storm welcome to the fire this is caleb callier with church and state are you tired of your device spying on you ladies and gentlemen we live in 1984. Your phones, your tablets, your smart televisions, they all are spying on you. And this is why I heavily endorse mark37.com. This is everything you need for your digital
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