The Prepper Broadcasting Network - Church & State -Save the Storks with Dr. Karysse Hutson

Episode Date: June 1, 2026

Dr. Hutson sat down with Caleb to share about her work with Save the Storks to provide women with alternatives to abortion. https://savethestorks.org/Church and State is brought to you by,  YOU!  Vi...sit us at: https://churchandstate.media where you can support us by donating directly and find links to shop with our affiliates.Get our merch at https://standupnowapparel.com/partner-church-and-state/   Learn how to Protect Your Wealth against inflation at: www.BH-PM.com and tell them Church and State sent you.Support Church and State today by shopping at www.MyPillow.com using our coupon code: “CHURCHANDSTATE”.Our links are on link tree: https://linktr.ee/churchandstate                    Subscribe to our Locals Community (churchandstate1.locals.com)   Follow us on Rumble (@ChurchandState1776) https://rumble.com/user/ChurchandState1776    X(twitter) (@1churchandstate) https://x.com/1churchandstatefacebook (churchandstate1776) https://www.facebook.com/ChurchandState1776   SubStack (churchandstate.substack.com) https://churchandstate.substack.com/     *Help fund our fight against tyranny: Buy from our affiliates and tell them Church and State sent you. *Tune in on NRBTV Tue-Fri 1:30 PM Pacific! Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/prepper-broadcasting-network--3295097/support.Support PBN and become a MEMBER of the PBN FAMILY! Free courses, Members only videos, reviews, and podcast! The Prepper's Medical Handbook Build Your Medical Cache – Welcome PBN FamilyJoin the Prepper Broadcasting Network for expert insights on #Survival, #Prepping, #SelfReliance, #OffGridLiving, #Homesteading, #Homestead building, #SelfSufficiency, #Permaculture, #OffGrid solutions, and #SHTF preparedness. With diverse hosts and shows, get practical tips to thrive independently – subscribe now!Newsletter – Welcome PBN FamilyGet Your Free Copy of 50 MUST READ BOOKS TO SURVIVE DOOMSDAYSupport PBN with a Donation 

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Starting point is 00:00:07 Spokane Valley could become a sanctuary city of a different kind. Maying Councilman Caleb Collier says that this proposal. I'm proposing that the city of Spokane Valley issue of proclamation stating that our city is a Second Amendment sanctuary. Today on Church and State, Save the Storks with Dr. Carries Hudson. Hello Christian Patriots and welcome to Church and State where we drive morality and religion over tolerance and apathy. And I'm your host, Caleb Collier, once again, your favorite far-right shock jock. And the show that talks about politics and religion, Jesus Christ is our referee, so it's always nice. clean. Real quick, I'm going to point you to the website,
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Starting point is 00:02:13 let's go ahead and bring on our guest. I'm excited to bring Dr. Crease Hudson to Church and State. She is a board certified OBGYN, Global Women's Health Expert, National Medical Director for Save the Storks, and just an absolute warrior for one of the most important issues for Christians. Dr. Hudson, it is a pleasure to have you on. Thank you, Caleb. It is my joy to join you. I'm so proud of what you're doing and just excited to be here this morning. Yes, thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:02:44 As I said, as I was introducing you, for a Christian, I think, this has got to be one of the most important issues that we are experiencing politically, this idea that the baby is not a human being in the womb and that we can't, we shouldn't have to protect them, that we can just murder them. And that's really what it is. It is murder inside the womb. It's infanticide. I'm sure that you agree with that statement. Absolutely, Caleb. It is the single greatest loss of human life facing our world today. every 30 seconds in America, an unborn baby is lost to abortion. And worldwide, there are over 52 million abortions performed every single year.
Starting point is 00:03:30 And interestingly, at least two million more female babies are aborted than male babies in sex selection abortion. So we know at every angle, abortion is not good for women. It is not women's health care, and it is really women and the family who are suffering. And I'm sure you've heard the statistic, Caleb, but if you take all the world wars, combine the loss of life in the world wars that since the beginning of time, still significantly more lives, human lives have been lost to abortion in the last 50 years. So it really is at the tip of the spear. The greatest need, I believe, in our world is to value these lives.
Starting point is 00:04:22 I completely agree. And, you know, that sex selection, this is something that is happening in nations all over the world. Even in the United States as well, China really comes to mind, though, with their one-child policies. And there's such an emphasis on the male lineage that, unfortunately, girls are, I mean, they're literally just being. murdered in the womb and it's it's one of the most tragic things that you can possibly see and when you really dive into this this this rabbit hole of what abortion is it's really rather depressing yeah it really is a heartbreaker and it not only takes the life of the the child in the womb but there are also permanent scarring and risks medical risks
Starting point is 00:05:08 that occur to the mother, which are never talked about. And I've researched thoroughly, internationally, and really there's such a robust amount of medical research proving that abortion harms women, not only taking the life of the child inside the womb, but really hurting women. Let's dive into that a little bit because, and I can't remember the name, I'm sure you will, but it was a woman who had done the, was it Susan G. Komen, I think it was Susan G. Coleman that had the breast cancer survivor, and she had actually gone through the research and shown that abortions actually increased the risks of breast cancers and other cancers. And when she brought this
Starting point is 00:05:51 information to light, ooh, they nixed her real quick, didn't they? Yep, you're absolutely right. So you mentioned China with the one-child policy. They have the largest population that we have been able to study of women who have had abortions and then they result in outcomes. And Dr. Huang out of China performed this huge nationwide study, which correlates with our studies performed in America, showing that women who have one abortion have at least a 40% increased risk of getting breast cancer. And if they've had two abortions, that risk jumps up to 76% increased risk of breast cancer. Having had an abortion is the number one risk factor for breast cancer in the world right now.
Starting point is 00:06:43 And it's really a heartbreaker that women aren't being told these risks when before they undergo the abortion procedure or take an abortion pill. They're just literally not being told. So, you know, follow up on that. Is there a difference to do the numbers increase or decrease, depending? depending on how you received the abortion? No, not for breast cancer, because when the body is producing extra estrogen and progesterone to keep that pregnancy alive and it's at high rates,
Starting point is 00:07:17 and suddenly that estrogen and progesterone is stopped, either through the abortion pill or surgical abortion, all of that extra estrogen and progesterone is still present in the body, having had affected the breast, tissue. And so the breast tissue is thinking that is going to develop extra lobules to make sure that it can produce milk. And if that is suddenly stopped, those extra budding breast tissues are left susceptible to cancer being formed. That is both fascinating and extremely disturbing. that, you know, it goes to prove that these abortion mills, planned parenthood, they don't care.
Starting point is 00:08:06 They don't care about life whatsoever. They don't care about the life of the child, obviously, but they don't care about women at all. And it's just such a farce that they are claiming women's health as they're really just a death factory. That's true, Caleb. And what is also tragic is that they're not taking care of these women when they have complications after the abortion. I work in a hospital system, both in Montana and in Florida,
Starting point is 00:08:35 and I'm seeing these women coming in with major complications from their abortion, whether it be a surgical abortion or the abortion pill, and they every time say the office where I had it was closed, or they had no answering service, or they told me if I had complications just to go to the nearest hospital, or they told me to go to the hospital and just say I'm having a miscarriage to not say that I have the abortion.
Starting point is 00:09:03 I hear this day after day, and this is true nationally. So it's this loophole specialty of OBGYN where somehow they've been allowed to perform a life-ending procedure and life-altering procedure for the mother and wash their hands of that patient, not having to take care of them after the procedure. And you may know that one out of 10 women who take the abortion pill have a significant side effect requiring them to visit the hospital, requiring at least an ER visit,
Starting point is 00:09:45 like hemorrhaging, significant infection requiring IV medications, retained products of conception, requiring surgery, Perforated uterus. I mean, I can go on and on. One out of 10 women are facing these complications, immediate complications. And that's not to mention, like we've talked about a little bit, the long-term side effects, breast cancer, also emotional damage. The studies show at least an 81% increased risk of having a chronic mental health condition after having had an abortion. And I understand our listeners, one out of three of your listeners have had an abortion. And it's,
Starting point is 00:10:31 my heart goes out to you. We know, as Christians, we never judge those who have fallen into thin because we all have. I mean, like Paul said, I'm the chief of sinners. So, but having said that, these women are, are in emotional turmoil. And I, I see them and I treat them in my practice. every day coming back saying I so ashamed and so hurt by by ending that life inside their womb it's something they can never let go up they'll never get over but by the grace of God we have forgiveness in Christ for all of our sins and that's you know a permanent beautiful shed blood of Christ that covers us from all of our sins from the past and I do believe he offers he offers miraculous healing to our hearts and there's abortion recovery counseling programs
Starting point is 00:11:29 that women and men who've been involved in abortion can seek out. You know, that is beautifully said. And I just want to attest to what you were saying. I was actually an EMT for a number of years. And I've been on those calls. I've seen women who have had an abortion and then just been left to themselves. The Planned Parenthood, they don't care. You take the pill, get the surgery, and then you're on your own, and I've been on those calls, and I've seen these women suffering.
Starting point is 00:11:58 It is absolutely tragic, and they're scared. They're terrified, and they have no support system behind them. And that leads me actually to my next statement in question. Oftentimes within the more radical progressive left, they'll claim that we don't care about the baby afterwards. All we want to do is save the life, then we don't care about the families, don't care about the plight of the mother, the poverty, things like that. Obviously, with what you just said, you're helping people, you're helping people, even if they have experienced abortion, you know, this charge of Christians are just
Starting point is 00:12:32 judgmental and we don't care about people. Obviously, that's not the case with what you're doing. No, so thank you. Save the Storks. That's the organization that I'm the national medical director of. They're a national pro-life nonprofit organization that started in 2012. And our mission is to really create a story of hope and empowerment for every woman who's facing an unplanned pregnancy. We believe that women are strong enough and capable to continue that pregnancy for nine months and make a wise choice on whether to continue parenting or to offer their child in adoption.
Starting point is 00:13:14 And, you know, as opposed to the world or the liberal left saying that women are empowered to end that life, somehow women aren't strong enough to continue for nine months to carry a pregnancy when their body was made for that. So we're saying absolutely that is false. And women are capable and are able. And we are working hard around the clock to offer care to these women in three. really strategic areas of impact. First, we're partnering with over 100 pregnancy resource clinics around the nation to offer them gold standard medical practices. And I'm talking with these medical directors, doctors, at each of these clinics,
Starting point is 00:14:04 and helping them to elevate care for the women walking through their doors, making sure that their nursing care and their staff are really offering hard. holistic gold standard medical care. And so definitely these are not fake clinics like you may have heard through the left. These are true maternal child's health care clinics. And as opposed to, you know, Planned Parenthood have about 500 clinics around the nation. Well, these pregnancy resource centers or clinics, we have over 3,000 of these clinics offering millions of dollars of free medical care.
Starting point is 00:14:44 to women who wouldn't otherwise have access to medical care. So just so proud of Save the Storks. Our second major impact is through mobile medical clinics. And this is so exciting. We have these beautiful sprinter Mercedes bus vans that are hitting the road and going to women where they most need care, college campuses, outside of abortion clinics saying, hey,
Starting point is 00:15:13 let's give you actual medical care and a real consultation of all of your options and sharing the risks of abortion and the benefits of continuing that pregnancy. And we don't just leave them to choose life, but we follow them through the entire pregnancy with support and care and resources and really offering, like I said, a holistic support network for these women to make a healthy choice for their lives and for their future family. And our third platform is a digital platform for women that really provides always on access to real care and real options, the truth. And I've been involved in every single aspect of the medical offerings and statements and facts on all of these.
Starting point is 00:16:11 in all of these offerings that we have, and it's just rock-solid maternal child health care. So it's, yeah, it's just been a gift to be a part of Save the Storks. You know, I absolutely applaud your efforts here, and I just think it's fantastic. There's so many resources for women who have bought a lie. They've been propagandized. They're fearful. They don't think they're in a position to raise a child, to bring a child into the world. and so hats off to you for all that you are doing.
Starting point is 00:16:44 You know, one of the things that has always really vexed me as a, as a, you know, conservative, as a Christian, is some of the mindsets from the opposing side of, you know, they care so much about the plight of animals, for example. You know, you can have Sarah McLaughlin singing in the arms of an angel and a lot of these liberals are pouring in here, and we got to take care of the animals. And then when it comes to the children, they're so cavalier. and they were literally just worshipping death. And there's such a disconnect to this. You know, and even some of the signs that they have in their yards, this house, we believe in science. You know, science, this magic word. And yet, if you were to point out that if we found a single cell organism on Mars,
Starting point is 00:17:26 you know, the headlines would scream, life, life found on Mars, and yet we treat the womb like, nope, that's not life. Clearly it's not. Yeah, there is a disconnect. and, you know, there is this rhetoric that allows bad choices to be perpetuated. You know, sex outside of marriage, exploitation of women and children, the lusts of the flesh. This rhetoric allows those things to continue and a light to be taken without remorse or without repentance. But as you know you know have in your life, as we all do, men and women who have experienced an abortion.
Starting point is 00:18:15 And they know that it is a permanent pain. It is a permanent choice that they have made and that sticks with them. And sometimes, though, the pain of that choice causes women who don't know the Lord to shout the loudest. I am so glad I had my abortion and women deserve this. I mean, some of those loudest shouts are the most hurt. And I have experienced that, of course, I'm speaking nationally and internationally on all of these risks to help educate women on how abortion harms them and to legislators in government, state, national and international governments on these topics. And I've truly found the beautiful thing as a Christian is that we don't have to engage in anger and trying so hard to prove our point.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Our greatest sort of secret sauce is to love, to love our enemy and pray for those who are persecuting us. And so a practical way that I believe we can do that is to say, oh, I see the sign in your yard. you believe in science. That is awesome because God created science. I believe that too. Science always supports the Bible. True science supports the Bible because God created science. So you find a common ground with someone who is shouting
Starting point is 00:19:56 the opposite of what you believe. So in that person with the sign I would say, I believe in science too. That's awesome that you believe in science. And did you have a sign? know the science behind abortion, it's actually harming women. And here's the facts. And just sharing those truths, they may continue to shut their ears and not listen, but planting those seeds of truth makes the difference in love. And then, you know, I'll always, you can always say to someone
Starting point is 00:20:27 who is so adamantly for abortion, they might say, women deserve that, or women, women, rights are more important than what's inside of them. You know, they'll have all this rhetoric. And another way to connect with them is to say, you know, I hear that you care for women. And that's so beautiful. I love that about your heart. And I care the same way. I love women, too. I care for women. That's my profession. And, you know, my husband and I, we're always praying that women would be protected. And here's practically how I'm doing that caring for women. So yeah, there's always a way to find common ground with someone who is shouting the loudest and really offer that kind, kind statement with truth. Yeah, I think anybody listening to this interview can see how much
Starting point is 00:21:29 compassion, how much you care just by how you're speaking. And I absolutely love your heart in all of this. Let me ask you this. We've been told that Donald Trump is the most pro-life president that's ever existed. Now, I disagree with that rhetoric, and I'll explain why here in a second. You know, we're seeing actually, from the numbers that I'm looking at, we're actually seeing an increase in abortions. And, you know, yes, there are some states that have banned it outright, but now we're seeing, you know, medical or abortion tourism is such a weird word to say something like that. But we're seeing people that, for example, where we're at, Idaho, pretty much illegal to have any abortions, pretty much impossible, but they're traveling to Washington and they're
Starting point is 00:22:16 getting just as many abortions, if not more. Why is it right now that when we have a Republican president or Republicans in charge of the government, people tend to ease off? Right now, if we see states that are passing these bills that are actually doing great things for women and in children, isn't it time to put the pedal to the metal, not to ease off? Yeah, absolutely. Now is the time, especially when there are Republican and pro-life-friendly legislators. Now is the time to introduce those bills and get those bills passed. I think there is the tendency to sort of have this laissez-faire attitude in the mind of the public
Starting point is 00:23:00 when an elected official is, you know, using their words to say their pro-life. It's important to continue to, you know, knock at the doors of your legislators and say, thank you for serving and what are you doing for life? How are you protecting the unborn? This is our most important issue and just continue to call them to a high standard for life. I would agree. And I'm going to say something here. here as well. You don't have to weigh in on it if you don't want to. But I'm a pretty outspoken libertarian
Starting point is 00:23:36 on this show. And because of that, I've developed a lot of libertarians that will follow this show. Libertarians operate under the non-aggression principles. And there is a big fight within the libertarian party about abortion. There are some that are like, yep, abortion should be on the table. Others on the more Christian libertarian spectrum are saying, no, obviously this is a violation of the non-aggression principles. And so to those libertarians, that are watching this show. Killing someone, regardless of their location, is absolutely a violation of the non-aggression principles.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Yeah, I would agree 100%. We know that life begins a conception. When one sperm enters one egg, the moment that sperm enters the egg, a zinc spark is released proving a new DNA has been formed. that millisecond that that sperm enters the egg. And that new DNA has never been seen before and will never be seen again.
Starting point is 00:24:40 And biologists, my undergrad is in biology, biologists around the world, whether they're secular or Christian, atheist, or whatever their political beliefs, they agree that life begins that conception because there's a brand new DNA. And so there's no argument that life in the womb is a brand new life. So it's as a libertarian, you would believe that murder is not allowed, that taking the life of an innocent person is completely unconscionable.
Starting point is 00:25:22 And with that belief system, you would continue logically to say that when that life is within the womb, it is still unconscionable not to allow that life, that innocent life to continue. Yeah, well said, I completely agree with that. And so if there's libertarians that are listening that are kind of on the fence on there, I think we just explained it to where you can no longer support the death, especially of the innocence here. Now, let's go back to your website here, Save the Storks, because we're coming up on a hard break here for the NRB TV audience.
Starting point is 00:25:57 And so I just want to showcase this because I want to do. this to be a resource. As you said, there are so many Christian women and men for that matter that have suffered an abortion. And you know that there is healing in Christ. You said it so well, Dr. Hudson, that there is healing in Christ that blood covers a multitude of sins is what the Bible tells us. But also to be outspoken about this issue, look, there are so many people in direct connection with you that may be exploring this as a option, maybe having a pregnancy and they're terrified. It's up to us right now, Christians, to get involved there and to show them the proper way in dealing with this. Absolutely. I love how you said that.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Absolutely. It is our job as Christians to embrace every life. When you see a pregnant mom, even if she looks disheveled or if you know she's singling at your church, give her extra love, give her care for her extra. Embrace every pregnancy. Embrace life. God is the author of life and come to visit our website, save the storks.org and click on the tab, what is a stork bus? And you can learn more information about what we're doing and how you can partner with us. If you can't volunteer with one of our buses or clinics, you can partner with us financially and really make an impact. We are in over 100 cities across the nation with our stork buses and treating women. These pregnancy resource centers that I mentioned,
Starting point is 00:27:29 mentioned, it's really estimated $350 million of free medical care education and support services are being offered. And so we need your support to help continue to come alongside women and help them to choose life and choose life for their entire family. Yeah, I absolutely love this. There's so many resources here. And we're going to get into a whole lot more of them when we come back from the break. But there's ways to support.
Starting point is 00:27:58 there's there's merch here wearing a shirt i advocate this all the time on the show look maybe you're not some of those persons or one of these people who uh has a gift for the gab like uh myself and my guests do but wearing a shirt that just simply says life you know it gets people talking gets people asking questions what does this mean and so uh grab a shirt uh support the org uh save the storks dot org is the website and we're going to come back and do another 15 minutes this is caleb callyer with church and State? Are you tired of your device spying on you? Ladies and gentlemen, we live in 1984. Your phones, your tablets, your smart televisions, they all are spying on you. And this is why I heavily endorse mark 37.com. This is everything you need for your digital privacy. Phones, tablets,
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Starting point is 00:29:40 to support us. And speaking of support, once again, please just hit that donate button for us. Keep us alive. Doing what we're doing, bringing this message five days a week. It takes a lot to do something like this and we need your help to continue. All right, with that, let's go back to our guest. And we're talking about Save the Storks. And as I'm exploring your website here, Dr. Hudson, I see something for churches. And this is something I want to dive into because churches, we have got to get engaged in this war. This is so essential. Look, we preach a good message.
Starting point is 00:30:15 We talk about life. But what are we doing? Like, how are we being in the hands and feet? And I'm so thrilled to see that Save the Storks has something for churches. Tell us about it. We do. We have a video series, a program, an educational series that churches can offer to their congregants in even a Sunday school format for a specific amount of weeks, or they can offer it to their congregation
Starting point is 00:30:43 to view at home online. And it's the theology and apologetics of the pro-life view from a Christian standpoint. and broken down into a really easy to digest course. And Christians listening or pastors listening, bring this to your churches and say, let's offer this. Let's check this out. Let's be on the front line because this really is the issue at the heart of God.
Starting point is 00:31:13 These children aren't even getting a breath of life outside of the womb. And they are created in the image of God. This is definitely an assault against Jesus. Jesus against God and the Holy Spirit. So definitely something to pursue with your churches. I love how you worded that to the apologetics of life. That is so well said there because the Bible has so much to say about life and life in the womb as well. It's something that we cannot ignore as Christians. If the Bible tells us that he knew us in the womb, that he knitted us together, then clearly that is a life. And I love going back to what you were saying about science.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Yeah, science makes sense because God created it. Mathematics makes sense because God created it. And the further we go away from that, really, the more ridiculous we look. Yes, it's 100% true. Christians don't have to be afraid of science. And I know science have been twisted to support theories that aren't biblical, but true science. A true research is always support. of the Bible, our God, as you mentioned, created science.
Starting point is 00:32:27 And I also want to say, of course, I am a physician. I've got all of the arguments, Pat. I've studied this with my career over decades. And I get listeners a lot who will say, okay, I can't, you know, spout out all the facts that you did. How can I still, you know, have this voice for life? And even just saying, I, if someone is saying, women, is giving you all these quote scientific facts about abortion and how it doesn't harm women and how
Starting point is 00:33:01 it's important for whatever the reason they're saying poverty or you know whatever rape whatever reason they can come up with if you don't have the exact answer can't remember the answer just saying simply I hear you but I disagree I have a different worldview and I dismayed Just literally saying I disagree. And they might say, well, tell me your facts. Why do you disagree? You have the authority to say, I don't want to get into an argument with you. I just want you to know that I have a different perspective on this issue.
Starting point is 00:33:39 And just leave it at that. Yeah. Let's get into some of these lies, actually, because I'm so glad you brought that up. You know, rape is one of the big ones that they bring up. But you never punish the victim for the crime of the person, you know, the rapist in this case. Some of these Muslim countries will actually do that. They will actually kill the woman who was raped because she shouldn't have enticed him or something
Starting point is 00:34:03 like that. That is an absolute lie. And then one of the other big ones, and I want you to address both of these, please, is, of course, that sometimes abortions have to be performed to save the mother's life. Look, I was a lowly EMT, but, I mean, you're a doctor, but I've never seen a case in my EMS career. where we had to, you know, the baby had to be killed in order to save the woman's life. Yeah, absolutely. I'm so glad you brought those up. I'll dress on both first abortion in the cases of rape. So as you mentioned, yeah, you know, ethically, you're exactly right on. You can't
Starting point is 00:34:38 take the life of an innocent victim in the case of rape. That's ethically, no matter what your religious beliefs are. That's an ethical, logical truth. But scientifically, women, we know that end the life within their womb, as I mentioned earlier, having 81% increased risk of having a lifelong mental health condition like depression, anxiety, post-traumatic stress disorder, and a seven-fold increased risk of suicide related to the abortion. So if women are experiencing the trauma, the awful sexual trauma of rape, which is never okay, never, never, the fault of the person who is being raped. If they have that trauma and then are adding on top of that,
Starting point is 00:35:30 the secondary trauma of having an abortion, it is nearly impossible for those girls and those women to recover emotionally and physically from that double trauma. It is a compounded trauma when we add abortion to the already, you know, explicit impossible trauma of rape. So yeah, right. And that's statistically proven. Having those women choose life actually protects their psyche, protects their mind, and protects their body. And then your second point of, uh, is, is abortion needed to
Starting point is 00:36:15 save the life of the mother. So in every single state in America and every single country in the the world. If a pregnancy was actually going to cause the death of the mother, it is medically allowed to separate that pregnancy from the mother in a medical procedure, and that is not an elective abortion where the mom is choosing to end the life of the child. That is a medical procedure that is rarely needed to save the life of the mother. Again, this is not an elective abortion. This is a medical separation of a pregnancy to save the life of the mother. This would be in the case of like an ectopic pregnancy, where the pregnancy is growing outside of the womb, outside of the uterus, and it would, you know, if that pregnancy continues,
Starting point is 00:37:11 it bursts maternal organs and blood vessels and can cause maternal death. And we see that all over the world. So in those cases, that separation, it's, it's tragic. But that separation is allowed in order to save the mother's life. And every doctor, regardless of their belief system, will always choose to save the life of the mother so that not two lives are lost so that at least the life of the mother can be saved. And that's the point. Atopic pregnancies, that's not a viable pregnancy. But that's the one that the left always likes to point to. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:50 It's not a viable pregnancy. Exactly. The pregnancy cannot continue outside of the womb. And if the pregnancy is in the womb and the mother super duper sick, okay, I've treated over 40,000 patients in my career. And like you said, I have never had to end a pregnancy within the womb before that baby was viable and able to live outside of the womb because of a maternal medical condition. Never, not once.
Starting point is 00:38:18 So that, but if some very rare theoretical condition occurred where that mom would absolutely die because of the pregnancy within her womb, that medical separation would occur and can occur even if elective abortion is illegal in a state or a country because the life of the, you don't want to lose two lives at once. yeah absolutely thank you for the clarification on this and really addressing um you know some of the talking points of the left that uh when when actually presented with the truth well they don't really stack up very well uh can you share uh you know i love what you said about uh you know in the case of rape because i've actually talked with women who went forward through the pregnancy and it ended up being just a healing process for them to be able to love that child through all of that or I've talked to women that have actually put their child up for adoption because they just couldn't handle that. But can you talk about some of the benefits with adoption?
Starting point is 00:39:25 For some of these women, maybe they're too young. They're just not in that point where they can take care of the child, but how adoption can be such a viable option here. Adoption is so beautiful. I love that you brought that up, Caleb. There are more families in America waiting to adopt babies than there are babies being offered in adoption. There is a need of these families who can't have children who have infertility issues or are unable to get pregnant and praying that they can be parents and loving parents, Christian parents, to a baby, a newborn. And so if all of these precious millions of babies just in America alone were carried to term and offered an adoption, they would have homes to go to loving, caring homes. who would really embrace these children.
Starting point is 00:40:18 And I just encourage moms to consider that. And there's all different types of adoption. There's open adoption where you can be talking with the parents, the adoptive parents, and your child that is offered in adoption. You can have communication with them your whole life. There are different levels of that where you can just, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:39 talk and get monthly updates or yearly updates or have a closed adoption where you say, know I don't want to connect. I trust this child to your care. So there's ways that as a birth mother, you can make it work for whatever you think is best for you. And financially, these couples that are adopting cover all of the, you know, monetary needs for a mom going through that pregnancy journey. Yeah, it's a beautiful thing. And I just also want to bring up Caleb. We Save the Stork's just released a weekly video series called pregnancy week by week. And it's Dr. Hudson's guide, my guide to pregnancy week by week.
Starting point is 00:41:26 And a lot of times moms are just afraid of the journey. I don't know what to expect. I, you know, how can I do this alone? And we really want women to know you're not alone. We are here for you at Save the Storks. And on YouTube, you can check out this pregnancy week by week series. and I go, there's 40 videos I go every single week giving what to expect and common questions and how to best care for yourself and care for your baby.
Starting point is 00:41:54 It is absolutely beautiful. And I just want to add as well, not that this is the biggest priority here, but adoption is extremely expensive. And so if we ended the abortions and had more adoptions available, that would drive the price down as well. And it is tragic to see people who really want to be. to be parents and they end up spending thousands upon thousands of dollars to adopt a child. Let's make it easier, ladies and gentlemen. Let's just make it easier. So going right back, you know, we're kind of closing down here, but I want to go back to the website because I want
Starting point is 00:42:27 my audience to explore this. I want them to become a partner with you. I want them to support you. I want them to wear your merch to get more of these, you know, these amazing vans into neighborhoods around the United States. So please, just in kind of closing. Plug the website. Tell Christians and patriots and conservatives and libertarians why they should support you. Yeah, absolutely. Our website is save the storks.org. And there are ways to understand what we're doing. And even if you have survived an abortion, a way to find healing backslash healed. You can read stories of women who have found healing after abortion through our services. We have social media pages on Facebook,
Starting point is 00:43:13 Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, LinkedIn, and just look up, save the storks. And we're always producing content. I'm on there with snippets of these truths that I've been sharing with you this morning, Caleb. And you can give, join us in this fight for life. Partner with us. A lot of times you can't be on physically on the front lines, but offering monetary and prayer support is huge. And just like Caleb mentioned for his show as well, giving to the kingdom of God through Save the Storks is such an effective way to save women, save the family, save the unborn. Well, I can't thank you enough for not only being a part of the show today, but especially for what you're doing out there, for preserving life, protecting it, and coming alongside women to show them that Planned Parenthooders,
Starting point is 00:44:11 is not operating with their benefit in mind. They're making money. We didn't even get into some of the more gruesome things about Planned Parenthood and what they're doing. Perhaps that'll be a follow-up show. But Dr. Hudson, I just so appreciate your time here and everything that you're doing. Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate what you're doing and really getting the truth out there. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Yes, thank you so much. I'm going to go ahead and close this out. If you hold on one more minute post-production to say our goodbyes, I'd appreciate it. But again, thank you for joining us on Church and State. All right, ladies and gentlemen, there you go. I think we've answered the question. Life, it is essential, it is important. And let me just say this to men, to women.
Starting point is 00:44:50 I guarantee you if you go through with the abortion process, that there will be a time in your life where you will regret it. But if you take that child and raise them up or adopt them, you will never, ever regret that. Church and State is brought to you in part by Colonial, I've spoken independent agents, finders insurance, and mark 37.com. I'm Caleb Collier.
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