The Prepper Broadcasting Network - Church & State -Stop Screaming for Silence with Mindy Robinson

Episode Date: July 27, 2026

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Well, thanks for having me. Yeah, absolutely. So just run off the bat. Perhaps, you know, there's an audience member who doesn't know you. But you are such a hardcore advocate for personal freedom, for liberty. So tell us how you got your start. Oh, gosh. You know, I actually did TV and film for a long time.

So I already had kind of built up a platform. And then when Trump decided to run in 2016, I realized nobody knew what they were talking about politics. And I actually have a useless degree in political science and American history. And so I was kind of able to use my comedic, you know, background on top of trying to explain how things work and stuff like that. So I kind of get into it that way. And I've actually backed out of politics a lot. I feel like it's, I don't know. I feel like this big design where it's just meant to keep as distracted and depleted and fighting with each other instead of, you know, trying to preserve our own sovereignty.

I would completely agree with that. I've been using my channel to advocate for people. to stop with this engineered hostility towards people that you view differently politically. I tell people all the time that Democrat neighbor is not your enemy. And so I appreciate that. But getting into, you know, obviously you're big into health. You're big into these so-called conspiracies. So we'll really kind of showcase that as we progressed in the episode.

Let's just start with health here because this is such a big issue with us. and I mean everything, the air, the water, the food, it's all polluted, it's all poison. It's very difficult for those of us who have concerns to, I don't know, eat properly, drink good water. Well, they definitely don't make it easy. I think like many people, I woke up, I mean, I was already kind of a conspiracy, you know, truther, but I really woke up with COVID, and I think a lot of people did. When you see the entire medical community get behind a vaccine that could not have been tested. in time. There was no long-term testing. There definitely wasn't any generational side effects. And push it as safe and effective and push it on you, like mandatory-wise. And then watching

people get sick and then deny it, watching people get kicked. I couldn't tell you how many times I was thrown in Facebook jail. I was even kicked off Twitter for two years for like saying things, like, hey, you guys didn't test this vaccine. And so once people realize that doctors and everyone are willing to murder them on ventilators and Vendesivir just to make a check, then you have to start digging, well, what else are they lying about? And it turns, out everything. Absolutely everything. Salt is good for you. It's not bad for you. Cholesterol is good for you. Your brain needs it. The sunshine is good for you. Sunblock is bad for you. So it's just been, I think, with everybody just slowly unraveling a lifetime of lies and getting

to the truth and actually getting healthy for the first time, probably in my life. I so completely agree with you. And I talk about this on the show quite a bit. COVID had silver linings. And the biggest one to me is exactly what you're talking about right there. People waking up The distrust of the establishment was massive for us. And so, yeah, we started looking at it and saying, hey, we've been told for years wear sunscreen, right, that the sun is giving you cancer. And that's just one example.

And now they're even admitting it. I mean, we're seeing this on mainstream news. Oh, hey, guess what? Sunblock's bad for you. Amazing. Who would have thought it? Well, you know, the sunblock we buy in America isn't even legal overseas because it destroys and kills marine lives.

So what do you think it's doing when you cover your body head to toe in it? And when you look at like the explosion of skin cancers, you know, in the 60s and 70s, well, what else came out? Sunglasses and Sunblock. And so for Burning Man, I experimented on myself. I always, as a true conspiracy realist, try it on myself before I promote it to others. I had already cut out seed oils for six months, which is a huge thing because it causes inflammation. It makes you burn faster. I stopped wearing sunglasses unless it was to drive.

And I already wasn't wearing sunblock. And I'm Irish American. I did not burn the entire time, and I was really out in the sun. And not like pretty tan. I'm like, if I can tan as one of the whitest people I knew, then there's hope for the rest of us. Maybe not redheads. I don't know about the gingers.

I'd probably be just stay out of the sun. But, you know, and so if they're lying about that, what else? They're lying about the sun. Do you remember during COVID when they said, don't go outside, and it turns out that was the best thing you could have done? These people are awful, but it's our job to see through that. And I think that's the journey of life.

No matter what they tell you, go with your heart, go with your intuition, go with, you know, whatever other people, whatever the opposite of what they're saying, basically. Yeah, I think it's very healthy and very American, actually, to be a bit of a contrarian, all right? To look at what the establishment, the government is saying and question it immediately. And I'm not trying to say that everything the government has ever told us or anything the establishment or the elites have ever told us is a lie. but I think for every single one of us, we should at least test it. I actually think everything they ever told us was a lie. I'm more impressed sitting there thinking of something they haven't lied about. We didn't go to the moon.

I love that one. My heart was broken that day when I started digging into it. I'm looking at the footage, like, no. It was like an old movie where the effects didn't hold up. I'm like, this never happened. And if they're lying about that, what else they're lying about? And the history is all right. I'm majored in American history.

I'll tell you it's all lies. Someone had fun making it up, and it doesn't make sense. And I was, you know, just going back with, and I think that is kind of nice, you know, as a society, like digging through it together and trying to get to the truth behind everything. If we all do a little bit of something and then show each other the work, we actually might, you know, write the ship. No, I would agree with that, actually. Perhaps I was being a little bit too generous when it came to the government. Because, yeah, most of it I do agree is lies. I'm 100% with you, the moon landing.

That was fake, ladies and gentlemen. Shot in a Hollywood basement. You don't believe me. Check out Red Hot Chili Peppers, California. They spell it out for you right there. And it's not that they're the good guys, ladies and gentlemen. No, that's not the case. But, yeah, I mean, the chem trails is another example.

They told us that this was just condensation, right? And we're all looking at the sky going, I remember clouds being puffy. I remember laying on my back in the grass and looking up and imagining shapes in them, not this haze that dissipated from the engine of an airplane and clouded the whole world. It was wild. Yeah, chem trails were one, like, here's an interesting partly, pretty much everything I believe now is the opposite what I used to believe. So I get where people are when they go, oh, chem trails are just contrials. I understand the programming.

They are not dosing us with fluoride by accident. They are not indoctrinating us from youth by an accident. It's all a plan to make us think a certain way. And it really, once you see past that curtain one time, whether it was COVID, 9-11, whatever, you see through everything. And I just look at my timeline. And it's interesting seeing other people also figuring that out. They're not going to sit there and argue with you about whatever. Like, that's dumb.

That's fake. That definitely didn't happen. Okay, next. Like, it's not working. The sciops aren't working anymore. I think it's the most beautiful thing ever. Like, nobody believes what this government says. Bring on the aliens.

I can't wait. Right. I'm right there with you. You know, and you bring up a really interesting point because you're right. The siops aren't working anymore. And it seems like the government, the elites, whatever, the mob, I don't care whatever you want to call these people. They don't seem to care anymore.

Like the Charlie Kirk assassination, for example. Like, there is no way you will ever convince me of a lone gunman who disassembled a rifle, reassembled it, ran off the roof, reassembled it back in the woods so that people could find it. That was even a shot. There's no way. And they didn't even try, it seemed like, to convince the people. because unfortunately the mass majority are consumed by the bread and circus. I feel like a mass majority, you know, they made us watch.

So fear mongering is a big thing for this government because people that live in fear are easier to control. People that live without God are easier to control. And so one of the things they did was like nonstop like murder mystery shows and law and order and, you know, crime. So everyone can like look at something and be like, no. You know, that doesn't make sense. And if it doesn't make sense, it's not true. And then you start digging further. And that's the thing with lying.

It's always going to lead to more lies or things that don't make sense. And so it's kind of a beautiful thing to watch the critical thinking level in this country just kind of explode. And yes, you're going to see people like agree with it, but then you look at them. All the same influencers that, you know, don't think Charlie Kirk was killed by Israel, also happen to support Israel, also happen to don't care about Epstein. They also, you know, they defend all these things that nobody else does because they're getting paid. And then you can see the bots. I see the bot accounts.

You can click on it. There's nothing to them. It's always a picture of a dog. It's always some ridiculousness. If they were in the majority, they wouldn't have to fake it. And so that's how I know we're winning. Even if it doesn't feel like it, I know in my heart it feels like it because they're trying, they are failing, they are going down in flames.

And it's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. No, I would definitely agree with that. And you bring up a really great point that I want to dive into. These conservative influencers that really. literally make me want to smash my head into the table because they're all saying the exact same thing. I don't care who it is. Ben Shapiro, who's the one that was just outed? I can't think it was. There we go. Yes. And even some of the older ones, the Sean Hannity's, the Mark Levins, they're all literally saying the exact same thing. And we, during, you know, the Trump era,

we had this mainstream media. This is fake news. We don't want any part of it. But so many of them got distracted by these so-called conservative influencers who are doing the exact same thing. And you brought up the nation of Israel. This is a subject I'm not afraid to approach on my show. Look, you have to look at the nation of Israel and say, yes, they've been involved in some very shady behavior. And is there some ties to, for example, the Charlie Kirk assassination? I think so. But at the very least, we should at least look at it.

You know, if you watch enough murder shows, the guilty, who has motive? Who had motive to do this? It certainly wasn't a tranny that, whatever, that ridiculous story was. Israel offered them a lot of money to keep pushing the propaganda, and he turned him down, and they made an example of them, and it couldn't be clear than day. And then the cover up, the poor cover, because, you know, as much, I don't want our military or anything to be merged with a foreign country. That should never happen.

But the truth is it already is. They just want it done on paper. the whole 9-11 thing. Who do you think actually brought down the towers? Who had access? It's one big entity. And, you know, they are not in the majority. They've always been afraid of our numbers.

And I think we're about to live through the time where we see the end of this corrupt system once and for all. Yeah, I pray for that daily, that this whole thing would come crashing down. Then we replace the government with one that will actually protect our God-given rights, our sovereignty. as you spoke about a little bit earlier. Yeah, I'm with you on this one. We should not be, I mean, our founding fathers talked about this. Foreign entanglements with none, free trade with all. And yet we have this favored nation status that we've doled out to a few nations out there,

but Israel's at the top of the list. And for me, I throw that directly upon the dispensational lie that was sold by Schofield and Darby. And I talk about this a lot on the show. But there's so many Christians that believe that Israel is God's chosen people, and so we can't touch them. And it's based off a lie. And anyone who digs deep enough will realize it's based off a lie. And here's the issue. I'm a hermetic, Gnostic Christian. It was basically the Christianity that existed before the Roman Catholic Church, what I was raised in. And a lot of people are like, this is a Bible. This is a Word of God. And like, you have to understand that was written by men with their own ideals. The Council of Nicaea was led by a pagan Roman emperor who murdered

his wife and child. You have to question it. What is true in your heart about God is going to be true? And so, well, this is, it's a Schofield Bible. A man wrote it. A man wrote it. We have to learn to, I think, have our own relationship with God and question the things that man has done in his name if we're going to, you know, truly find peace in this world, honestly. Yeah, I mean, I'm not a Gnostic. I'm Lutheran personally. But, you know, some of what you're saying there, you know, Paul and I talk about this a lot on the show too. Paul commended the Bereans. Why? Because they heard the message. And then they searched the scriptures to see if it was true. And so I think any of us that are pursuing truth, because I think you and I would both agree, if you're on a journey of pursuing truth,

you're going to look for the source. And that source is always going to be God. Well, God is everything, but our interpretation of it is the thing that's always up for debate. Sure. I can respect that for sure. All right. So continuing on with the conversation and we've been, I mean, I said health originally, but we dove into a lot of these conspiracy truths as well, but they're so wrapped in together, you know, it's like, why are they putting fluoride in the water? Why are they forcing kids to get, you know, 70 something vaccines before they turn the age of two? Because as you pointed out, they want a sickly population. They want a fear-based population because we're easier to control then. Yeah, it's actually all related. No matter what you look at, why fake the moon landing? Because it removes God out of people's lives and makes you think you came from monkeys having sex

from a giant cosmic accident, which your life is worthless. And no, you know, everything they do has a meaning to them about it. And I'm literally just try just whatever they say, do the opposite, think the opposite. And it's crazy how much more sense things make sense because that's how inverted everything has become.

And that's part of the plan as well. Yeah, I would definitely agree with that. All right, let's get a little bit wild here. Conspiracy truths, okay? And sometimes I've seen people go really far into this. I've seen people claim that, like, Australia isn't real, that it doesn't actually exist. And then you talk to somebody from Australia, you're like, I'm here, I'm over here. So sometimes I think there's disinformation thrown out there.

But some of the more wild conspiracy theories, I want to ask you questions about, like, let's just bring up flatter Earth. My producer is a flat Earth or he loves that I'm already talking about this. But where do you stand on this? So here's the deal. The globe, they kind of made up those numbers. So if you actually took a camera, you could see further than the curvature is supposed to let you. You can see things that are further. So they're kind of proving themselves wrong. Now, as to whether it's round or flat, it's neither. In my opinion, I think everything is energy. Everything is sound and frequency. God created everything with sound. Everything is vibration. The earth is whatever you want it to be. If you want it to be round, you'll keep seeing clues for it being round. If you want it to be flat,

you'll see truth for it being flat. We are at least bigger than what they're saying. That I will give you just on the evidence. But it's, it's energy. It's whatever you want it to be. It's an infinite amount of possible realities at all time. It's probably more shaped like a teroidal feel, something magnetic than anything. But I think it's small-minded to think it's either a ball or just flat, flat, and then we're, this is the realm of energy from which we live. I believe we're fractals of God experiencing itself, experiencing consciousness. Everything is mind, everything is consciousness. To argue about the physicality of non-physical things seems kind of irrelevant in the big scope of things.

I think we're selling ourselves short, that we're much bigger and much more cooler than a globe or, you know, a pancake. Gotcha. I mean, and what you're saying, you know, I mean, obviously frequency is very important. And as you said, God designed this. And there's a reason why the elites change the frequency of the music that we listen to, to one that's much more disruptive of our human cells. So there is something to be said for these frequencies. There's a lot.

If everything is sound and energy, then you should be able to manipulate things for the good or better with that sound and energy. And so there's a lot of conspiracies about. Tartaria and the bells. Why did they destroy all the bells? Because they were healing. Sound frequency is healing. There's even a theory that cathedrals weren't like made for church, but not really designed for it physically. They were kind of like there were places of healing. And no one hated natural holistic medicine worse than Rockefeller because he wanted to make money off getting you sick. And it's interesting, like he lived in like 96. You know why? Because he had a holistic doctor. He knew it worked. He just wanted the rest of you to only live so long. So yeah, everything is sound and

frequency, everything from the music you listen to. If you want to listen to rap music about killing people and robbing people, it's going to affect your soul. It kind of has to. You put on some easy listening from the 60s, you're having a great day. Everything really is sound and frequency. And I think it's underrated. I think we need to incorporate it more. Everything's so busy sounding. Why is it going to be music everywhere, you know? There's nothing wrong silence. There's something beautiful about nature. And it's all related. Yeah, I think I might be a tad schizophrenic here because my music is either classical music, which is absolutely beautiful at healing, or punk rock, which is like anti-authoritarian, well, the old punk rock, not the new punk rock.

So, I mean, there's, I don't know, maybe that's just what I need in my life is the balance of those two different frequencies. But there is something to be said for the music that you're listening to. I appreciate what you said there, because rap, yeah, I mean, there's evidence that points out that the CIA, was directly involved behind the rap music. If you don't believe me, audience, look it up. My guest is already nodding. Yes, that is true.

Because, well, anything that damages the community or the family unit makes people easier to control, you know, so they gave rap music about violence to black people. They put them on crack in the 80s. They gave white people opiates, you know, in the zeros or tens, but everyone would call it. Like, they're always trying to destroy the family unit because as a community, we will always be stronger than the elite few living off of us like tax cattle and you know maybe like think about it maybe you need to listen to angry music to do something to the inside of you to release something because it's frequency it works like that why does listening to sad songs

help during a breakup these are all things that are interesting that we we should be studying more and we don't yeah i would agree with that although the man in me says i never listen to sad songs during a breakup. I will neither confirm or deny that one. Chris, don't laugh at that, Chris. It's fine. I can be sensitive to. No, many, this is a great conversation,

and I hope it's waking people up and encouraging people to explore different perspectives to not just immediately dismiss something just because that sounds strange. That sounds foreign. And one of the things that I saw on your website did I have to ask you about, and Chris is going to bring it up real quick,

pandas aren't real. Like that's a really interesting topic right there. You've done a whole video on it. I did. So, you know, I'm always on the quest for new content because I'm not the only one digging into this. It's a whole community. And I kept coming across the panda ones, pandas aren't real.

And the thing is they're not imaginary. You know, they obviously exist, but they don't seem to exist well. And there's not a long history of them in China. Like, they just kind of show up in artwork rather recently. They don't read for anything. They're like, they can only breathe like two days a year, and they're really bad at that. If you ever see videos of them, they're like, they're not fighting off a tiger. They're not fighting off anything.

They're like rolling around. They can barely stand. They're falling out of trees. So the theory is maybe they were genetically made by someone wanted a cute bear. They could hug that wouldn't murder them or something like that. They're not, they're not 100% nature made. And that's actually believable because I don't think this is the, we think we think we're the most advanced civilization that has ever come. And we know or not.

We can't even explain how they made buildings, you know, from not that long ago. So obviously, we're not, we're the era of plastic. Everything is temporary and cheap. I don't even know how my phone works, you know. So I don't know. I thought it was a fun one. I might actually agree with it. They may, they might have been genetically, genetically.

I can see the argument for it. I mean, you watch these zookeepers, any of them dealing with pandas. I mean, they're literally actively trying to make sure they don't kill themselves. They have no balance. I mean, they're constantly falling over, just crashing into things. So I could see the argument being made that these things were genetically engineered. It wouldn't be the first time. I mean, those of us who listened to Alex Jones back in the day remember him ranting and raving about spider goats.

There was the spider goats that were weaving this like silk for armament. So it wouldn't be the first time for us. You know, it won't be the last. No, you're absolutely right. I mean, look at the transhumanism. You know, you've all known Harari, for example, on the World Economic Forum, they're talking about this.

They're talking about being able to clone humanity, to make cyborgs, to merge us with machines. So, yeah, obviously, there is an agenda there, and they're talking about it openly. Yeah, and you've got to wonder what, you know, it's their agenda, but you're going to wonder, like, what's behind it. And I'm even wondering, like, do cloned people,

would they have souls? Do you, does that work like that? Is that what they're looking for? Like, a human? without a soul that they don't and on the other hand here's the other conspiracy theory if you're if you're a tartarian or anything like that there seems to be a giant reset not that long ago like in the 1800s where you have all these orphan kids on trains being sent for farm labor across america across australia like where did all these little white kids come from

why you know babies and incubators at world's fairs and stuff like why is it so rare to see a baby that people make a ceiling where are the babies why are they selling babies as coming from cabbage patches and snorics and people were buying babies all you know like on postcards and stuff there seems to have been a reset in our population and i i don't think cloning or any of that stuff is anything new but that's just me i mean everything points to their having been cloned humans before and i why would they stop why would they ever stop i'm sure like they're making the rich people is making babble gangers of themselves but not understanding that that doesn't make them themselves. Our awareness, our God-given conscious is what actually, you know, makes us alive.

Everything is temporary except our awareness. Yeah, well, I would say that they're very short-sighted. They're not looking at, you know, living in a different existence, heaven or hell. They're trying to, you know, find the fountain of eternal youth to where they can live on this earth for all of eternity, that they can defeat, you know, death. And obviously for you and I, you know that that's not the case, that these people are actually going to imprison themselves, especially if they merge themselves with technology. I don't even know how that works with the technology. This idea that we need to live forever in a physical body is kind of bizarre.

The body's designed to break down. That's the whole experience of life. It's limited. You've got the illusion of time. You're experiencing yourself. Otherwise, what's the alternative? If you woke up tomorrow and you were omnipresent and you knew everything and you knew every alternate version of anything that could ever happen, how much fun is that? This is the experience, these limited bodies and the awareness lives forever.

The ego doesn't. And the ego, which is designed to keep us alive on this animal planet, that never wants to die. I think that's really what they're wrestling with. They're not looking to really live forever to do that. They're looking to keep their ego, their individuality, when really it's for all. connected. And I think being connected is a lot cooler than being myself for eternity. Yeah, I mean, obviously there's a communist element to that mindset, that hive mindset that they're pushing upon us. And it results in a lack of freedom, a lack of individuality.

And for people on our spectrum, we're going to reject that wholeheartedly. And whether you're a Christian, libertarian, anybody that wants that freedom, we're going to reject, reject the plans of these elitists because it's honestly it's it's it's going to bring about the downfall of humanity wouldn't be the first time no no it's sadly it would not be i mean history is filled with exactly what we're discussing right there these these tyrants that emerge and uh they have a utopian mindset uh you know if you if you listen to or read things that hitler said or Mao or Stalin or Lenin or any of these guys, they had this utopian mindset, but the end result was always death.

Well, that's the thing. And I think maybe this is why I get out of politics and whatnot. There's only two things you can do. You can either free people or control them. And controlling people to force them to be good is still control. But if you truly freed people, if you told them what they were, if you told them what, you know, that they are a part of God, they are, what they do have? the things that they do right now, if they weren't, like, atheists, at least all that other stuff.

Like, so I believe in freeing people. I don't want to control people. I think if people knew the truth, they would behave differently. And yeah, I think that's a huge problem that people fall into. That you're a good guy, but you're still trying to control people at the end of the day. No, you're absolutely right. I got to pause you at Mindy. I just apologize. We have that hard break. I hate doing that to guess, but hey, ladies and gentlemen, Mindy's going to be with us another 15 minutes. This is Caleb Collier with Church and State. Media. Ladies and gentlemen, if you're not sleeping on my pillow, do you even Patriot? I got to tell you, this is the most wonderful stuff from a man who's given it all for your freedoms.

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I don't remember what I was saying. Do you? Basically, I mean, you're right. You were talking about control and control versus freedom. And so if somebody, even if they are acting in benevolent manner, you're still control. You're still a tyrant. Yeah. And I think that's the problem that we're looking at.

And of course, the alternative is what anarchy is what, I don't know. I get like you shouldn't kill people. It shouldn't rob people. But the bajillion rules and laws we have online. fees and registries. Those don't need to exist. Those are just enriching a corrupt system. I think we're absolutely capable of regulating ourselves. And I think a huge problem, we'll never find peace as long as we're fighting for it. It's like screaming for silence. It's just not how it works. That's a really good way of putting it. Screaming for silence. I like that.

In fact, maybe that's the name of the show, Chris, screaming for silence. But yeah, you're right. We do. I mean, the vast majority of us, we have the. that in our DNA, right? We can we can look around and we can say, uh, I shouldn't kill that person. And we have enough control, self control to not act upon that. We may hate that person, but we're not going to go actively kill them. And so I, I agree with you wholeheartedly that a more of an anarchy based system and not the one that the media tries to convince us of, right? That anarchy is these Antifa people that are thrown brickster windows. Like that's not anarchy, ladies and gentlemen, anarchy is just a lack of government, zero governments

so that we can govern ourselves. Yeah, everyone thinks it's going to turn into the purge. But whatever. Like, we're perfectly fine regulating ourselves. And I would dare to say better off, you know, the government, why is our army even overseas? Like, all these questions that we have that I think people are having now for the first time ever. I'd be happy with no government at this point.

We're not voting our way out of this. doing anything. I'd be fine if we woke up tomorrow and something happened to our world leaders and the aliens took them, the Russians took them, I don't care. What a great day that would be. Like, okay, cool. I guess we'll just go back to normal, but just working less and paying less for stuff. I'm right there with you. I mean, every time we hear, you know, government shutdown and everybody, the CNN folks, the Fox News folks, they're all worried about the government shutdown and I'm over here like, bring it on. This sounds great. Like, shut it down. And no pay.

Shut it down and no pay. And it's always like no pay for like the plea, but it's never no pay for Congress or any of that stuff. I say shut the whole thing down. Do it. Do it. Make my day. Never open it back up. Nobody cares. Nobody cares.

No one's going to. Our biggest fear would be what? A land invasion? Not America. Because we still have our guns. We never got rid of them. That's why we never got rid of them. Good luck taking over taxes.

Like what are you going to do? You're absolutely right. You either destroy everything in bombs, which makes it useless. You wouldn't do that. or you're going to try to do a ground invasion, which you will fail. You will fail. So we don't need government. I completely agree with you.

I mean, if the government shut down, I don't think most people would notice. Life would continue. And not only that, you'd allow the private industry to go without regulations that are so burdensome. You'd allow them to step in and fill the void. And that's what every libertarian is talking about, is that the private is way more capable of handling all of this. the government shut down. First I do a dance, then I'd throw a party,

and then I'd open up my own pothole fixing company for 50 bucks. I'd fix your pothole for 50 bucks. And just keep going around. You've got a pothole in front of your house? I'll fix it for 50 bucks. And you already got more done than the government managed to do in 10 years. Do you remember when Domino's was fixing potholes? Yes.

That was awesome. I was like, yes, right there, you've proven every libertarian right that a private corporation, an entity could do it better than the government was done. doing. And why did they do it? It was a gimmick, guys, because they have all these, you know, delivery drivers out there that are wrecking their cars on these potholes. So Domino's fixed them, and they put their little stamp on it right there. It works. And, I mean, you can go down the line of all these different things that are so-called public and how much better they operate in the private. What's the government really supposed to do? Make sure there's not

poison in our food, poison in our air, poison in our water that our kids are saved. Why are we paying many of this. I mean, I don't pay taxes. I don't make enough. But like, I expect a giant tax revolt. I just don't do it. It isn't half of us. Just stopped paying taxes, the business isn't everything. What are they going to do? There's nothing they can do. And the money system would collapse, and we'd have to barter with each other for our services and goods, and I think I'd be fine with that. As would I. But you also bring up a really interesting point, because what is the government supposed to do? You said, keep our food safe, don't poison our water, don't poison our air, keep our kids safe, except for the government's doing the exact opposite of that, ladies and gentlemen.

So maybe Mindy's saying we should remove the government, replace it with something better? There's a local community can't do, you know, come together. Like, you know, John and Mike are having to fight, okay, you know, air it out, we'll figure it out at the pub. I mean, really, what do we really, really need from the government that we weren't doing as, as colonies. Really. So, yeah, they're supposed to keep us safe from, like, foreign wars, and here we are starting them.

So I'm good. I'm good on paying for genocide ever again. I'm good on bombing school kids by accident, and no one gets in trouble, no one goes to jail, and you wonder why you have terrorists. I don't know, you kill their entire family. That's the perpetuation of the whole thing, and I think people are seeing it.

And I don't know. I think the key is to not everyone thinks you need a civil war. No, that's what they want. They want us to fight each house. That's what they've been setting up this entire time. What we need is a revolution. It doesn't even mean you need to do violence. It just means you stop participating in a corrupt system.

Just stop. Like I said, if half of us did it. And how uncomfortable do we have to be as a society before we do that? How much more ridiculous could it be? Because it's going to just continue to get more ridiculous until just enough people say, you know what? I'm just going to squat where I am and not pay anything. And I think I'd be fine with that.

You know, the idea has a lot of merit. to tell you. And you're right about the Civil War as well. I've advocated for this for a number of years to not fall into their trap because that is exactly what they want because you hear, you know, the more conservative side of things and they're like, well, there's no way the left can win this war. They know that. Okay. They absolutely know that. But they still, they want you to kill them off and then they want to bring in the United Nations peacekeepers or whatever it looks like, maybe Israel now that we've merged with them. And all of a sudden you've got somebody that actually knows what they're doing. fighting against you. Don't go that route. It's that Ron Paul revolution with love, right? That was

written in it. You could see it during his campaign. You just, you love people. You stop fighting. You figure out what you have in common. You come to the table. As you said, you got to fight, figure it out in a pub. That's a whole lot better of a world. That's one I'd like to live in. Me too. And when you look at me, the reason that there are illegal immigrants here doing violent things is because we're paying for them to be. The reason anything that is happening is because we're subsidizing our own destruction and it's all a distraction and I don't, maybe a producer will know but like the civil war, our original civil war, do you think it was really fought to free the slaves? Do you really think it was some kind of like humanitarian mission where they

went down and started murdering their own countrymen and bringing their cities down and raping their women and stealing their food? You think that was all done because of like the good of their heart, but do you think it was designed to just tear each other apart, put ourselves in perpetual debt because the banks were funding both sides, and then they would just sweep in and take over the entire country in 1930?

Exactly. Oh, yeah, I've reported on this subject myself. I've reported on this subject myself. Absolutely. This is exactly, you really want to know the intentions behind the Civil War? That's exactly what my guest just said. It was the banks funding at all. And initially,

they funded the South because they thought they could break this up, much like Europe, and have every state be its own country, each with a central bank inside of it. So yeah, the banks, look at the banks, ladies and gentlemen, you want to know why almost every single war has ever been fought, look to the banks. And I love the quote from Norm McDonald who said, you know, it says here in this history book that the good guys won every single time. Like, think about it, guys. Comedy, it's great. It points to the truth. Yeah, never mind of fact we help stop. and go on to kill and more people than anybody. I mean, that's our history.

The history that is kind of true and still just so rewritten. And so it is what it is. But I don't see it repeating. I just don't see. I think this whole internet thing and social media was kind of like their other way to control us and it kind of backfired. Because now it's also a way for us to share information. And the information is going to be out there.

They try to censor. We lived through that. There's really no censoring at some point. the people are this distrustful of the news. Who watches the news? Oh, they've been to make fun of it or criticize it. Who is watching any of this stuff? So I think the Great Awakening is upon it.

I think we're about to live for the most exciting time there was. And I'm looking forward to, quite honestly. Yeah, I definitely agree with that. I am looking forward to this. Along those lines, The Great Awakening, I want to ask you a question that some of my audience may not like, but they should be used to me by now because I'm certainly, No fan. Where do you stand on Trump? I voted from three times. I stood by him. I was a speaker on the Capitol. I got my FBI visit.

I really wanted, if he had only done the things he had promised this term, but he didn't. I do not like the insider trading. I do not like the Bitcoin scams. I don't like the Trump phone scam. I don't like trying to find a polite way. He's in bed with Israel. I mean, I don't like that his son just married Epstein's banker's daughter. I don't like his daughter. is married to Jared Weasel Kushner. Why is that guy even around the White House? I don't, it's like it's not even the same guy. And I think unlike the left where they seem to like to go down with Biden and flames,

I'm going to criticize Trump because I think it's, this is not what we voted for. We vote for no wars. We voted for an end to the government corruption, not an increase of both. And I'm not going to be silent about that. I don't care if you want to follow me for. Okay, fine. I'm not a single fan. I'm not going to lick the boots that are oppressing me. And so, you know, my theory is it's not even him. They either compromised him to Kingdom Come, or they, like, LK altered him, or they just killed and replaced him.

I mean, how many Bidens did we have? The six or four Biden being my favorite. It was that easy to replace that guy, like six or eight times or whatever was going on. What's to say they didn't just take him out? And I'm trying to pinpoint exactly when it happened. I don't know if it was Butler, which didn't happen the way they're saying. But something happened where his entire thing changed. And I don't see a guy who's a narcissist and who loves his ego would suddenly crap on his base that got him there.

That's just something people with egos don't do that their base is everything. And so something happened. It's not the same person and I'm not going to stand by and pretend it is one way or the other. I think that's incredibly well said and really vocalizes where I stand on this whole thing. I only voted for him once. He got me, but it is a different Trump. It's not the same Trump that we fell in love with in 2016, that we thought, hey, we finally can have an outsider getting in to this political machine and start dismantling it. So I think you bring up some really good points.

Another question for you on this one, because this is another one that divides a lot of people. What do you thoughts on Bitcoin? I don't understand it. I really don't. I like silver and gold. I want to hold something in my hand. I want to be a lost password away or actor. away from losing absolutely everything I have. It seems just as imaginary as our dollar,

which is no longer back by gold or anything of value. So I know people are crazy about it. It's a change to me. It's just a digital currency and I don't trust it. I would rather have canned goods and gasoline and diesel and gold and silver and things are tangible value. And as many times as people are trying to explain to me, I don't care. I really don't. It just seems like one starts between another. Yeah, once again, you and I are in complete agreement on that one.

I've looked into it. I see nefarious means behind it. I see us getting involved in a cryptocurrency that's ultimately controlled by governments. I think they're going to pull the rug out of the Bitcoin and

governments will step in and say we need a stable coin. We need something that is centrally backed. And there we go. got a one world monetary policy that is not what I want to be a part of. Well, Mindy, it's been an absolute pleasure. I told you I'd only keep you for 45 minutes. You're currently dying in a you have no air conditioning in your airstream. So, and you're in Vegas. So I want to be cognizant of that. But I want to push your social medias. Obviously, you have a massive following on X that people can go to. And Chris, if you can bring that up, we'll show everybody where they can follow Mindy on

X. And then there's also the website here that Chris is showing. as well. Mindy, tell us a little bit about your website and why people should go there. Well, I got a little tired of politics. I felt like it was a negative loop cycle. Whatever I put my energy to, I was going to get more of and I didn't want more. I had my corruption conspiracy. So me and my business partner, Van, we put together I am the Infinite.com. And that's where you're going to find our pandas real or little holistic things and just digging into the more positive side of life and spirituality. And just trying to, you know, I believe we get the energy.

we put out, so I want to put out more positive to do you. Excellent. Well, I will encourage the audience to go to I Am the Infinite Infinite.com. Go check it out. And also to follow Mindy on all the different social media. She's all over the place. You could find her. But this is

somebody that's pursuing the truth. And I respect and appreciate that. Mindy, once again, it's a pleasure to have you on the show. Thank you for all of your work and defending freedom. And I'm going to go ahead and close this out. If you hold on one more minute post-production, Sarah, goodbye. I'd appreciate it. But again, thanks for coming on the show.

Thanks, having me. Absolutely. All right, ladies and gentlemen, there you go. You know on the show, I love people that are pursuing truth. I love people that look at things and view it a little bit differently. And I believe we need to platform those individuals because those are the people that are the leaders in this world. Those are the ones that are asking all the right questions. Church of State is brought to you in part by Colonial Life, Booking, Independent Agents, Finders Insurance, and Mark37.com.

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