The Prepper Broadcasting Network - Church & State: The Depths of Evil at the Heights of Power with Sam Anthony

Episode Date: March 16, 2026

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Bokane Valley could become a sanctuary city of a different kind. Thank you, Caldeman Caleb Collier, says that this proposal. I'm proposing that the city of Spokane Valley issue of proclamation stating that our city is a Second Amendment sanctuary. Welcome to the fire. Today on Church and State, no more safety nets with Sam Anthony. Hello, Christian Patriots, and welcome to Church and State, where we drive morality and religion over tolerance and apathy. And I'm your host, Caleb Collier, once again, your favorite far-right shock jock. And the show that talks about politics and religion, Jesus Christ, is.

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let's go ahead and start the conversation. Now, I'm bringing on Sam Anthony. He's the founder of Your News. We've, he's been a friend of Church and State for quite some time. But Sam, it's always a pleasure to have you on. And we're going to talk about some things that may make some people uncomfortable. And I titled the show, No More Safety Nets. But Sam, it's a pleasure to have you on the show again. Caleb, always good to see you, man. I enjoy being on your show.

Yeah, absolutely. I really enjoy you as a guest. So no more safety nets. That's quite a statement. But as I'm thinking about our conversation just prior to when we started recording here, you remember back in the day you'd have these grand trapeze artists, right? And they'd travel around town to town at the circus. And, of course, the most dramatic thing was when the safety net was pulled down. And they'd do these flips high impending the air or they'd walk across the tightrope. And if they fell, well, serious injury or death.

But that was always the thing that drew the crowd in the most. Is that the way our government should be operating? No, I mean, I'm sitting there thinking of the trapeze guy, and I know what you're talking about because we all went to them, right? You know, and I always used to think, why are you taking that safety net out? You know, this is not what you want to do. You know, when it comes to our government, we were talking, you know, offline. You know, I've been, since I've been following politics and I'm, you know,

unfortunately, I just keep getting older and older and not. What was that movie where the guy went the other way? Benjamin Button. Benjamin Button, right? That's not happening. You know, everything, you know, whenever you hear politicians get up, and they start talking about how they're going to fix things and, you know, you didn't vote for me for this, but when they get in office, all they do is they're selling you something that makes absolutely

no sense, right? And so, you know, and I'm 25 years old, I'm listed as stuff. I'm like, well, that doesn't make any sense. And you know, then you get to 30, you're like, well, God, it still doesn't make any sense. And they sell you on the fact that, well, we have Intel and all this stuff, other stuff, which you're not really here to understand, but this is what's in your best interest. But if you ever notice, Caleb, nothing ever gets fixed. And finally, you come to realize that they're completely full of it.

They're never going to fix a thing. This is just kicking the can down the road. And quite frankly, I'm tired of it. And that's where you said, well, now this is your libertarian views. Yeah, it's my libertarian views. I mean, if you want to solve the problem with government, take all the money away. Don't let them spend a nickel on anything, right? Because what have we learned?

We've learned that all of the money that pretty much goes to taxes get stolen, right? And they have no interest in fixing it. And when somebody goes in to try and fix it, what are they doing? They're trying to stop them. Want to know why? Because the recipients of the money. It's their money. They're just stealing it.

And then they print more money whenever they have to do something else. So this is basically where they're piggy bank. If you want to know why we're 38 trillion dollars and dead, it's because these people don't care about us. They're ripping you off blind. And basically, anybody that goes into D.C. at this stage of the game, in my opinion, is a bank robber. That's all they are.

That's all there are. I mean, you have some that are good people trying to fight the good fight. But for the most part, they all get sucked into it, and they start leading these good lifestyles. And then they really believe they're better. better than us. If you don't believe me, case in point, AOC, you know, this is a bartender that's now worth millions of dollars, didn't have a pop to person. Who's the other one? Who's the Black one out of Texas? What's her name? Jasmine Crockett.

Okay, so just to be clear to the audience, Jasmine Crockett, and if I'm rambling on too much, I'm sorry, I'm just, this stuff just blows me away. She was the one of voted against voter integrity, but lost the prime, got primary out by another Democrat and blames the Republicans because they cheated in the election right take that through for a minute what what what what republican voted nobody it's just a way to point fingers the simple fact of the matter is even our own people are going get this out of here that's that's we're done with her which by the way anybody know the net worth of jasmine crockett no i don't actually okay well hold on one second what is she is in the book actually i did write a book Hold on. We might have her in here.

All right. Political Incontinence, Jasmine Crockett. Let's find her. I think we do have the amount that she is worth. So he's searching the internet. I am searching a book. That makes it a lot of fun. Let's see her. When she first started, she had a net worth of $10,000.

And in 2024, she had a net worth of a million dollars, 2025, $9 million. So that was those of 2025. when we wrote this book, Political Incontinants, which I highly recommend the audience grab. In one year, she gained $8 million. So for those of you don't understand what $174,000 salary is after taxes, you're probably left with $130, right? Okay, so she got $130,000, but somehow save $9 million out of that. And nobody goes to prison. Nobody.

And ever wonder why? Okay. It's because it's all political theater. Enough is enough. Okay, so this is why I'm aggravated because it's never going to be fixed unless you eliminate them. Take that for whatever it's worth.

You could vote them out. If you want to do something more extreme, I could care less. But all I can tell you is, as long as they're allowed to spend your money, they're never going to stop. And their net worths are going to get bigger and bigger and bigger because they're always going to believe that they're better than you.

A bartender is worth more money than you, Caleb. Okay? How does that make you feel? Well, I've long hated government for, well, I mean, I think I was born hating government. That may have been the case. But, you know, what I was talking about in the beginning, Sam, with that, you know, that trapeze artists with the no safety net, right? And that's that dangerous freedom, right?

And that's what our founding fathers established. for us as a country, that dangerous freedom. And when I look at all of these safety nets, and one of the expressions that I so hate, and it comes from the so-called conservative or Republican wings is it's not a handout, right? It's you're helping someone, right? It's a hand up. It's a hand up. You're helping somebody up. But you're allowing government to be that person that is helping somebody up. You're stealing from me to help this individual, and I just don't believe that that's a role of the government whatsoever. That should be the role of private citizens or the church.

But yet we continue as Republicans to allow these safety net programs to exist. I know it can be offensive to some people, Sam, but I'm all for abolishing Social Security. I don't think it should exist. Medicare, Medicaid. I'm sorry. I don't want the government involved in that whatsoever. And to be fair, and going back to the book, we were talking about Jasmine Crockett, but I got another person who just left a lot.

as a representative from the great state of Texas. And that's Dan Crenshaw. That's another problem act individual. And he had a net worth of $5 million. So we're getting rid of some of these people, but are we replacing them with people, as you said, that are actually trying to fight the system? Or are we just going to replace them with another individual

who is ultimately going to leave office a very wealthy individual? You know, I don't think, I think some of the people coming in are trying to do good. And the problem is, if you don't go, along you don't get the money from the from the party and if you're not getting the money you're never going to win the election and so sometimes you probably just have people say you know what what do i need to do and all of a sudden next thing you know nice things happen they started that big buying bigger houses and they've got all this money and it's all legal it's the system that

needs to be burned down right because the system is corrupt and the people who go in there with good intentions, finally go, I can't beat the machine. I might as well just join them because I'm not going to get in any trouble. None of us do. I mean, it goes all the way up to the Clintons with, you know, the foundation. And people would donate millions of dollars to it and all of a sudden get these perks, but there was nothing to see. Nothing to see. It's everybody's tired of it. So I do agree with you. I think government needs to stay out of 100% of everything. I'm sure you've heard Ron Paul talk about it, right? Before government got involved with all this stuff,

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You know, this nonprofit people fund specifically for Able Child to do what it does. They don't get any government funding. And it works. As a matter of fact, they get the opposite of government funding because she's against them. So, you know, that's the point is, you know, we don't. there wasn't any problems 40 years ago. The government created the problems, and then what they do is they bring in people

and all this money that they funneled there, only a portion of it goes to the place it's supposed to go. NGOs were the most brilliant one though. Think about that, okay? Imagine sitting there going, Caleb, you know I only made $9 million last year on my $174,000 salary. How could we make more?

Well, I got an idea. Why don't we do non-government? Because we can't give money. We'll go to jail if we start spending this money. But if we come up with an NGO that has this really great cause, we could then talk to our other buddies and we could funnel it there, but the guy who owns the NGO is going to be a very close personal friend of ours. And even though he knows nothing about how to teach chimpanzees out of

maybe when we funneled the $2 billion there, He could then decide that he wants to donate it back to the Democratic Party, and that's just his choice. And if he does that, then it'll all flow back to us. I mean, and that's what they're doing. And you can't put them in jail because they did everything legal as they were supposed to. Isn't that nice? It sounds absolutely beautiful, right? I mean, and that is the system that they've created.

I just want to say this to the audience as well, and I'm sure you'll agree with me, Sam. There's nothing unkind about what we're saying here. We're not looking at the poor. I mean, the Holy Scriptures tell us that the poor will always be among us. And we're not looking at them and going tough. You know, like, so what? You know, we're going to get rid of Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid, Medicare. We're going to get rid of all that stuff.

And you guys are just going to die in a gutter somewhere. That's not the point of all of this. No, what we're talking about here, Sam, is that before the government got all involved, you had the private charities. You had individuals who just looked upon people that were struggling and said, I want to do something. I want to help that. And we actually created more problems, more poverty, more people living out in the streets, more drug problems, more homeless people out there that should be institutionalized because the

government got involved. And so what we're saying is the government is not the solution, Sam. We're saying we need to go back into the proper spheres of authority and remove the government from places that they shouldn't be operating in. Caleb is exactly correct. I'm going to give you something. else. The reason your drug prices and all the hospitalization is so high is because of the insurance company. So I'm going to give you a perfect example. I was dating somebody a while back and she didn't have insurance. And so she went to the doctors to get some MRI and they said that when came time for payment, they said it'll be $1,200. What insurance do you have? I don't have

insurance. Oh, hold on a second. It was 200 bucks. Okay, no insurance, $200, right? So like, oh, okay. So we, so after we get out, they gave her prescription. So we went over to CVS to get the prescription filled and the woman says, uh, the prescription is a hundred and thirty-eight or 50 bucks. I don't remember. There's a lot. Like, holy crap. Uh, what insurance do you have? I don't have insurance. She says, oh, hold on a minute. And she goes back, she goes back and goes, that'll be $25. Okay. So I don't know if anybody realizes this, but open heart surgery is $500,000. But if you didn't have insurance and be about 50 grand, okay, that's literally what it is. So it's because of insurance that these premiums are so inflated and then they fight you not to pay it.

And then when the insurance company goes to pay, they're only paying the 10 cents on the dollar. This is all one big hoax. 100% it is Sam And this is why you've seen the rise In these independent hospitals That do not take insurance And they're sprouting out all over the cross The United States

Tell me about those I never heard of those Oh they're great They're the private hospitals You go in You need a procedure You need whatever it is And it has a set price

And you just go and pay that price And the people that are going to these They love the health care They're not inundated With individuals that are just abusing the system so you actually can get in, get the procedure done, and get out of there. And they literally are popping up all over the nation. I think the biggest one, I believe, is in Oklahoma.

But literally, this model is working. People are taking notice, and they're coming to a neighborhood near you. There you go. And everything becomes affordable because you're getting the government out of the whole equation. So, yeah, I get it. I mean, I have never had health care, right? And I'm 61 years old, and I'm knock on wood, I don't have any health problems. But if I do, I figure AI is probably smarter at any doctor anyway, right?

None of you use a chat GPT, Sam. I don't know if you saw the news coming out about that. But most of these AIs are actually just telling the people what they want to hear. They've actually been able to prove that. So maybe going to AI for your health concerns is not the solution. It's fixed my girls, some of her problems. I mean, stuff that the doctors couldn't figure out. out, it just goes out to the web, it scours everything and formulates it all and comes back

with a conclusion that actually work. She was having issues, couldn't figure out what it was. I said, why don't you ask AI? And I think it was Grock, and she asked Grock, and Grock gave her an answer, and it worked. Interesting. Yeah, I mean, this has been like a five-year problem. Couldn't figure it out. Because no human being could read the two million pages from all these other doctors all

over the world and what they've uncovered, figure it out, put it together, and come up with a conclusion. Sure. No, I mean, AI is most certainly a tool, one that we can use. And in this case, going at that point saying, this is what AI told me going to the doctor, and I'm sure that they've developed a treatment plan for us. It can be a tool. I would just caution individuals.

Don't just completely embrace our AI overlords, or they might decide, you're not really worth the trouble. Maybe we should just get rid of this useless eater. There you go. There you go. Well, it certainly is a good tool. Yeah, I would agree with that. All right. So continue on with this conversation because I'm having a lot of fun here. And Sam, it seems to me that you and I are solving a lot of the world's problems. In fact, maybe we have a presidential ticket here. You're a little bit older than me, so you can go president. I'll be vice president.

But just going in there, I love how he agrees with that right away. Yeah, no question. I got it covered. I'll fix the whole thing. Go in there and just literally shut it down, Sam. I mean, am I the only guy out there that when they talk about a government shutdown? I'm like, yeah, yeah, government shutdown. Let's do it. This is exciting, right?

Is that just me or is that half of America? No, every time they shut it down, I go, oh, my God, think all the money we're saving. Think all the money we're saving. Oh, my God, these people can't get these benefits. They'll figure it out. Don't worry about it. Okay, if you shut down long enough. This episode is brought to you by Spreaker.

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Start your show today at spreeker.com. Spreaker, because if you're going to talk to yourself for an hour, you might as well publish it. Non-profits will sprout up. People start giving donations, and all of a sudden it'll go back to a free market. it. Yeah, so I'm on the same page with you. Here's what I've learned. Not only do they mismanage your money, they have no interest in fixing it. None, it's it, zero. And so the only thing you can conclude is there the direct beneficiary of the money that's being stolen. It's the only thing you can conclude. I mean, Sam, one of the things that I think we can highlight here to prove our point is we just had, you know, our representatives in Congress and in the Senate, and they decided

to vote against releasing the names of the individuals that had paid into this sexual slush fund. So any of our representatives who might have put their hand in the cookie jar, as it were, gotten it smacked, they paid off the individuals to ensure that there was no, you know, a big hoop law or something about this. You know, maybe they didn't want their names dragged in the mud. And they had the opportunity to reveal that to the American public. And what did the vast majority of them do? no they got to vote no on that doesn't that prove right there that we just need to overhaul the entire

system it's complete proof so basically anybody voted no had some kind of if you you're part of the problem at that point if you didn't sexually harass anybody or didn't rape anybody you might as well have because you're basically saying well i know you killed that person but i'm going to keep it a secret i'm not going to tell anybody you're you're part of it you're the guy who drove the car to the getaway car so yes i i i i find it comical, but is anybody really surprised? Caleb, give me a break. I mean, these people are not here for you. They're here for them. You're just in their way. If they could figure out a way to take all the money and you be completely broke with nothing, they would do it. They're on their

way. Yeah, I mean, that's called communism, right? And we are as a nation flirting pretty heavily with communism, aren't we? We're getting close. But, you know, I mean, I don't think that, it's going to get to that level simply because I would suspect. And by the way, you know, I'm just thinking, because I'm thinking off top of my head, you know, you have a lot of really good hackers. How many hackers you think can hack in there and get the information about all the politicians that use the slush fund, right? Oh, man.

Knock, knock, knock. Anonymous, are you paying attention? Anonymous, can you please watch this program and hack for us? I'm not suggesting you do it. Okay. But what are you going to do? Arrest them for what? I guess this would be like the WikiLeaks thing, right?

Yeah. Well, I mean, and look at what Assange. I mean, look at the price he had to pay for revealing the truth there. I mean, you bring up a very sad and interesting point there because this man was demonized more than really anybody that can come to my mind right now. I had to live basically as a prisoner, no sunshine. I mean, you could see the health effects, the complications that that lifestyle had for him, all because he attempted to reveal the truth.

Caleb, I'm the next to Sajj. Okay, mark my words. Okay, decentralized news, watch what happens when I have 100,000 news reporters, okay? Watch these people start breaking stories, right? And I'm allowing it. I'm not allowing it. It's a platform. It's like TikTok, Facebook, right?

It's local news. you need to shed the light on this stuff. You need to. Okay, people need to know. And so you need to get people pissed enough that change occurs. Because as long as they're doing this stuff, my mother has a friend. Nice lady, absolute idiot, okay? No matter what you show her, she doesn't want to believe it.

And she'll believe it, but then fall back, right? It's a shame that we've come to that, but you need to keep hitting him with this stuff. You need to keep hitting them with this stuff. You need to keep showing them here. Here's your proof. So imagine, and you know this, there's plenty of whistleblowers that are afraid to come out because they're afraid of what's going to happen to them, right? Imagine when mainstream media no longer exists, five more years, they're done.

Okay. If I'm wrong, it's four. Okay, I mean, but it's, that's the mark. And new media takes over with completely decentralized news. And then you've got platforms like mine that do hyper-low, local news right down to the specific city all the people you know you could have somebody in Spokane that is a whistleblower that is afraid to put this information out that all just goes to your news.com and click submit your news

and puts in documents and puts a story together and sends it out there you see what I mean all of a sudden it's a people-powered press want to talk about screwed this is what's gonna really screw them now say I'm might be the target. But, you know, all I'm going to tell everybody is go F yourself, okay, because this is, this is just free speech that you guys, this was in our Constitution. It's free speech. It's uncovering, it's uncovering the dirt. You know, we couldn't rely on mainstream media because you bought them all. So if you want to buy all of them, go do it. Good luck with that. Yeah, there's some possibility. I mean, as you're talking, you bring up really two really interesting

points. And number one on the press, I mean, we have that quote from Rockefeller where he thanked the news for not actually revealing their plans. And because of the news and their acquisition to the elites that they wouldn't reveal the plans, they were able to pursue it and push it that much further. And Rockefeller thanked them specifically for that. And so we do need to go back to that free independent press that you were talking about that's enshrined in our First Amendment. where we can count on the fact that we have local news, regional news, state news, even national news. That is not beholden to a political party or to an agenda. Their only agenda is the truth. And I think getting back to that is so important. And I know when we come back from the hard break here, we're going to be talking about specifically your news in what you've been doing there. But also one of the other really interesting points that you bring up is anger, Sam.

And we've got to get to that point. We've got to get to the point where we're angry. When we go back to the founding fathers, they were angry about small things. I mean, comparatively speaking to what we're experiencing now, the amount of tyranny that was coming from the British Crown was pretty minor compared to what we're experiencing from our own government right now. And yet, the people are unwilling to unshackle themselves from this oppressive government. Literally, as we were just talking about, is covering up sexual slush funds. And we still can't release the Epstein files because the Dowell. is 50,000, Sam.

I mean, come on. This is huge news here. All right? We need to get back to an angry attitude, a righteous anger, but an angry attitude as Americans. I agree. I want to bring this up. Also want to talk to you a little bit about Pizza Gate. Remind me of that.

Okay? All right. I don't know about you. That's something I heard about almost 15 years ago. I didn't want to believe it. And it turns out they're actually eating freaking kids. This is sick. It is sick. Yeah. I mean, if you want to go into it right now, go ahead.

Well, well, I mean, look, I heard about it years ago, you know, Adyna Chrome, you know, I've been in this business for a long time. So this is stuff. It was all conspiracy. Now it's coming out as actually factual. They're actually killing the kids. Now, I've seen torture videos of kids, right? You know, you can't see the person. But when you listen to the testimony from some of the people that, were on Epstein Island. I mean, who did they, they said Bill Clinton was there all the time. He was like he lived there, right? He had his own robe kind of thing. But everybody was afraid of Hillary. Hillary was the nutshell and everybody was afraid of her. So all of a sudden, and this is here,

and so we all know humans sacrifice have been going on for thousands of years, right? How long I have absolutely no idea. But you wouldn't think that it's still going on today and it is. And our own government knows it. And they have all these real, rituals and they have code names for them.

Do you see all the code names? Like for all the stuff? Yeah. Like a boy is pizza or something and a girl and something else. And ice cream. Yeah. All the stuff. Yeah.

Oh my God. So once you know the codes, you can start reading this stuff and it makes sense. You know, I'll have a hot dog or whatever. And the jerky, right? We don't have more junk. Somebody needs jerky.

I mean, this is the code names that they're calling this stuff. And they're actually doing it. And so all this things that were conspiracies are not coming true. I think it's absolutely sick. If that doesn't enrage you, something's wrong with you. But nobody, everybody goes about their lives and they just forget about it. And these are people that need to

be publicly beheaded. I would agree with that, Sam. That is the point that we need to come to this realization that some, well, a number of our leaders are engaging in this, the most abhorrent, disgusting

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And Sam, we're talking about just, I mean, this is just the worst subjects. You know, I never wanted to have conversations about this, but you're right. This episode is brought to you by Spreaker, the platform responsible for a rapidly spreading condition known as podcast brain. Symptoms include buying microphones you don't need, explaining RSS feeds to confused relatives, and saying things like, sorry, I can't talk right now, I'm editing audio. If this sounds familiar, you're probably already a podcaster. The good news is Spreaker makes the whole process simple. You record your show, upload it once, and Spreaker distribution. contributes it everywhere people listen, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and about a dozen apps your cousins

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like, please hack the Epstein files, wink, wink, and release all this information. And I don't care who's on the list. I don't care if it's my favorite politician, my favorite pastor, who's ever on it. There should be hell to pay over these individuals. and I'll say, like, public executions should be on the table. I couldn't agree with you more, and it blows my mind. First of all, everybody has a life, right? You know, you've got to take your kids to school, soccer practice, whatever you're doing.

I mean, you know, people have time for their stuff. They're just hoping that the people that are managing the government are going to be doing the right things. It just turns out that they haven't been. And, you know, I remember in the later 80s, like 19. 1985 or six, you know, I mean, money was kind of easy to make. It was, it's because there was less regulation. And even before that, it was even more. And I noticed the restrictions starting to come in after the tech bubble happened, right? You know, so it started to change

everything. And basically, only a few started making any money. And it was basically the people that were paying them. That's, you know, how it works. It's like you scratch my back, guy, scratch yours. So the whole Ann Rand thing, right, is coming. to fruition and now we're at a point where this has gotten so bad that now we're finding out that the eating of the children was actually true I I don't think people want to believe it I mean I know I'm one that doesn't want to believe it but you can't unsee it right you you know that this stuff is going on and I never I never understood why there was a marketplace for child sex trafficking like who in the hell would be interested

in that but it turns out it's bigger than drugs that's sick and Sam how ignorant and arrogant of us to look back at the past and to not believe that there was power behind some of these demonic gods like when we look at the Old Testament and read about child's sacrifice

to Molok and bail right we tend to believe look at these ignorant people of the past they were cavemen they were Neanderthals right that they would go and sacrifice their first born to these gods and for nothing that's wrong, ladies and gentlemen. That's the wrong mentality. These demonic gods have power.

I guarantee you that they have power. And these individuals, as Sam was just talking about, that there's still a market for child trafficking, for sex trafficking, and not just that for literally murdering them and eating their bodies. It's because there is a demonic power to that. And these individuals at the highest levels, they're tapping into that power. And they're keeping us ignorant of it. They're keeping it in the shadows, but they are literally worshipping demonic gods to include Satan, and they're getting power from that. That's what this is all about. I do agree. I think some people would have a hard time believing that, though, Caleb. I would have had a hard time, but after being in this business for so long and seeing all the information,

you know, now I know, okay, it's happening. And what blows me away is it made its way up to the spot right I mean it's it's in the it's it's in the churches it's everywhere it's like and you wouldn't even think like how many people do you know look at a child I'm attracted to that you know I mean nobody I mean you know so you think well who could be well apparently it's a big enough market out there and you know there's people selling this stuff and so it really the only thing I could figure if you're a poor person and you're interested in eating children good luck with that okay you're not gonna it's not gonna happen It's all the elites.

It's all the cuckoo for cocoa puffs. And, you know, that's why you saw Prince Andrew, right? I mean, one of the richest people on planet Earth, he could fly to the island and do whatever he wants. Have you ever heard some of the testimony from some of these women? Oh, yeah. Have you ever heard it? How horrible it is? Yeah.

Okay. One woman I heard the only reason she was still alive was because she had a specific code or name where she couldn't be injured. You could have sex with her, but you couldn't kill her. Because some of the people that came over, part of their thing was to, you know, not only rape them, but to kill them when they were done. And this is just weird. And they know who the people are. How are they still alive? I mean, this is like hunting down demons.

I mean, these people need to go. So, you know, look, at the end of the day, I understand that us, you know, we can't do everything. But when you have an FBI, right, and you have P.M. Bondi and you're controlling the Justice Department. Why aren't these people making any arrests? And I don't know the answers. You know, I talked to, I went to the turning point event, you know, in December and, you know, I called Mark Fincham and had lunch with him. And he told me, now this is just on, you know, because I'm a little biased. I'm like, why are there no arrest? Trump's been in office for almost a year. Why have there been no arrest? He says, it's coming. I go, how do you know? You go, Sam, I know.

it's coming. I said, okay, I'll give it this year. That'll be it. Okay, after that, bye-bye. Okay, I know what I'm doing. But, you know, he even told me, he goes, Katie Hobbs. He goes, Sam, I'm the lead investigator of Katie Hobbs. I have everything. She's cooked. That woman's going to jail. And he said to be, remember, I am not suicidal. So something happens to be, okay. He said, he said, I have got her on everything. Well, okay, you know, so maybe they're still putting stuff together. I know this stuff you have to dot every eye and cross every T. But I noticed when the Democrats get an indictment on somebody for something they didn't even do, they don't even have to dot any eye across any T and they get a conviction too. How's that work? So I didn't do it.

It's all bogus. And somehow you're able to get a jury in there to convict me on something that was manufactured. Sure. This is where it's starting to, I'm not starting to lose it because how How does that happen? And you control the White House, the Congress, and the Senate, and so far we can't get anything done. And now we're actually talking about, you know, the SAVE Act and we're not going to be able to well. I don't know. And I really, I mean, you should be passing laws about getting rid of all Democrats. That's what you should be doing.

Okay. That should be the law they pass. We don't like these people anymore. Get the hell out of here. You know, I know Mark Finchon personally, good guy. He's been a guest on this show. I've done events with them. I'm more with you.

Like, I don't know how much longer I could wait. I haven't been very good at waiting anyway. Maybe I'm that kid that can't wait till, you know, Christmas to actually open the presents on that guy in the back. Like, what's in here? You know, I want stuff to progress. I want to move forward. I want to start seeing a rest. But like I said, I do know Mark.

If he's saying within a year, maybe we're crossing our fingers. Maybe we sit back a little bit cooler jets, but I really don't like that. I got to tell you. He's not going to lie. So he's telling me what he believes. You know, reality may be something different. But, you know, to me, this, I understand as you keep peeling back the onion, you're like, oh, my God. Right.

There's more. Wait, wait. There's more. Right. And then you start to realize, this crap's been going on for 40 years, right? I mean, and some of these congressmen have been in office for like 160 years, I think now. It's ridiculous. So they can go back in time to like the 1800s.

And it's obviously I'm saying that. I mean, you're absolutely right, Sam. I'm pretty sure Joe Biden dodged the draft in the Civil War. I mean, that's how long some of these people have been in politics. Exactly. So it's nuts, you know, just how long these people have been there. But I'm sure they're probably following all the money. And it won't surprise me.

You know, I look at what Trump's doing. And, you know, I'm no expert on the Middle East. I'm no expert on, you know, on Venezuela and on Maduro. But I can only tell you that by getting rid of Maduro, it really screwed the people that Venezuela was supporting, which turns out are our enemies, right? So strategically, it's better for us as the United States, but it's better for it's better for the world.

Secondly, when it comes to Iran, it's all of a sudden he's doing the same thing. He's eliminated a Roj regime, which was, which, which from what I understand is fuddling money. Okay, people like, I don't know if you, but money laundering he's been going through, that's at least the conversation I had with somebody else. They were telling me this is a for money law.

And it sends drugs in and buys bombs for Hamas and, you know, terrorism and all that stuff. So if the media is not going to shed the light on it, they're going to continue to commit crimes. I mean, why would you stop robbing the bank if, you know, if nobody's going to stop you? But all of a sudden, if there's cameras on you, you're going to stop, right? So it's really going to come down to news reporting that's going to be citizen-powered press, right? It's going to be new media that's going to be able to do it. And it's going to be completely decentralized.

So what we do is going to ultimately fix the problem. and I'm going to explain that because how you fix this problem is you either shut off the funds from Washington, which would be the best way to do it. You have some kind of civil war, which nobody wants to do, or you control the press. Since the legacy media is going to go out of business, it's 100%. Want to know why? Because YouTube had 2.7 billion people on it last month. That's the reason why. It's because all the money goes to them. Instagram, TikTok, there's millions of content creators driving billions of people. platforms for those of you who don't know this if you have a million content creators on a site it's gonna bring a billion people the end okay and that and

the money goes where the people are and nobody's watching mainstream media because it's an antiquated archaic product right so what I have is a platform that operates 20,000 cities in the United States but it's local news I do local like city county market state regional or national and then it could be high school sports, it could be volleyball, basketball, football, soccer, it could be faith-based, travel, food and wine, home and garden, science and technology, business, entertainment, okay, all these different things I could have easily, just in the U.S., 50 people a city, reporting news, types 20,000, is a million people.

And that's what drives the audience. So to give you, put us in perspective, Rumble has 250,000 channels. You have a channel on Rumble, right? So there's 250,000 of you. In January, I don't know what February's was, but January's traffic was 42 million visitors. So say 50 million for simple math. I have 5,700 and something odd news reporters. So make it 5,000 for simple math, which literally means they're 50 times bigger than me.

I had over a million people, and they had almost 50 million. It's like 50 times bigger. By the time I have a quarter million people on my site, news reporters, that's why. where I'll be, right? And that's where the money goes. The difference is the content we carry is going to be the high school football game, the bank robbery, the car crash, the city council meeting. But what happens is right now, everybody saw the St. Clair Broadcasting, where you have 50 television saying the same thing at the same time. Okay, so you have to know one guy sent that message to all the markets and they were just reading it off a teleprompter. That's their,

that's how they do news. With us, it's completely decentralized. How in the way, world could I possibly know what's going on at a city council meeting in Spokane? The only thing a journalist has is their credibility. The moment they lose it, it's over, and the public will let us know. So since you brought this up, hit mouse over local edition and hit top stories. This episode is brought to you by Spreaker. The platform responsible for a rapidly spreading condition known as podcast brain. Symptoms include buying microphones you don't need, explaining RSS feeds to confused relatives, and saying things like, sorry, I can't talk right now, I'm editing audio. If this sounds familiar, you're probably already a podcaster.

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I don't know if he's going to do it, but if you hit top... He's figuring out. Oh, yeah, so you just go straight down when you mouse over local edition and click top stories. That's the front page of the Spokane market. So if you can click that, it will show you news for either Washington or Spokane or the surrounding area. Whereas if you went to Seattle, you'd see Seattle news, right? So this is Spokane Eyes, 50,000 for whatever.

And if you scroll down the page, all of this is going to be your area. Isn't that cool? So if you went to Seattle, you'd see Seattle News or it could be Washington State News, where if you went to Chicago, you see Chicago. These are all my news reporters. I got over almost 6,000 of them. Think about that. Watch what happens when I have 50,000.

Watch what I have when I have 100,000. You want to know why I'm going to be a thorn in their side? It's because I can't control these people. they're reporting on what they report on. How would I know if it's factual or not? The only thing a news reporter has is their credibility. The moment they lose it, it's over. The public will let us know because people say, well, how do you fact check?

I don't have to. Caleb will send me an email going, that guy's lying through his teeth that was there. Oh, well, he's gone. And that's the end of it. You're allowing the free market. That's what it is. Yeah, the free market. And you have to, as the old expression goes, let the buyer beware.

That's the solution to the free market. The communist, anybody who wants to have big government, they're always talking about, but there's got to be regulations to keep the people safe. No, there doesn't. There needs to be a free market with that mindset of let the buyer beware, do your own research. Freedom is a great responsibility. And if you see that somebody is lying to you on your local news, then you stop listening. And guess what? The problem goes away, Sam.

It's really that simple, isn't it? By the way, anybody ever heard Nick Shirley? Guy never went to journalism school, never worked at a newspaper, radio, TV station, Eddie Kine. Had a cell phone, broke the biggest story, right? $19 billion in fraud out of Minneapolis, okay? I have almost 6,000 Nick Shirley's, okay? Watch what happens when I have 100,000, and 200,000. Now you're starting to see the scale here.

So what's going to happen is it's going to go from a centralized news source to a citizen-powered press. And it's not going to be people that are the old guard. It's going to be guys like Caleb. It's going to be your sister. It's going to be somebody like your neighbor who already is all at the city council meetings. That's already thrown on their side that goes, you know what? Screw them. I'm a news reporter now.

They're going to go to your news, sign up to become a citizen journalist, and they're going to start reporting the news and sharing it with the community. That is how you stop all this stuff. Okay. What I do will become the next mainstream media. There's not a 99%. There's 100% that's going to happen. It's already in motion.

And by the time we get to 100,000 people, 50,000, we're the 10,000-pound gorilla. You can't stop it at that point. Because now you have a place to go for local news and the people you're going to be reading are going to be the people you know. Oh, that's Mary. I trust her. Okay. So the good news is we're a people-powered press.

And then because of that, like all tech giants have gotten funded from Silicon Valley. It's not a secret. Everybody knows that. There isn't one that wasn't. Okay. So I could easily go to Silicon Valley and get Black Rocket Vanguard money. The problem is I'm compromised. So if you're truly going to be a people-powered press, it needs the people need to own the product.

So we're doing something called an equity crowd fund. So if you are interested in making an investment, all you do is go to your news, go to the bottom. There's a button down at the bottom next to become a citizen journal. If you go to the bottom, you'll see become a citizen journalist, which if you want to be a journalist, you can. And there's one that says invest. If you click that, you can read about what we're doing. This is not fly by night. It's run issue. Our company's called NICO Ventures. It's run by North Capital Partners, which is a brokerage firm. And if you could see there, if you scroll down just a tad bit, I think it says we've raised something like, right there. You pat,

you pat, no, no, on the right. In Nico Ventures, it shows how much we raise. And people can invest $200. I need 3,000 shareholders to go public. We're probably around 350. But we're doing this raise. I'll close this out. Then we'll do another one. And then we'll do the biggest one's going to be the IPO one. That'll be institutional money. You can't. I'm not raising $100 million through $500. It's sure. It'll take forever to do. But yes, this is how you do it, a complete people-powered press. Yep. No, this is good. This is why I'm so proud to be a part of your. news. I love having you on, Sam. We've gone a little bit late. I apologize for that, but, you know, I know how busy you are. But hey, it's been a great conversation. I think we've

at least discussed a lot of the most important issues out there today. And one of the most important right there, ladies and gentlemen, is a free press. So Sam, I thank you for joining us. I've got to go ahead and close us out. If you hold on one more minute post-production to say our goodbyes, I'd appreciate it. But thank you again for joining us on Church and State. You got it. All right. There you are, ladies. I appreciate it. Oh yeah, absolutely, Sam. Pleasure always to have you. We'll have you back soon. All right, there you go, ladies and gentlemen. Sam Anthony of your news, free press. It is essential to our God-given liberties. It is essential to restoring and really holding on to the

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