The Prepper Broadcasting Network - Church & State -The MKUltra Files and Trolling the Prophets

Episode Date: July 23, 2026

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Spokane Valley could become a sanctuary city of a different kind. Native Councilman Caleb Collier says that this proposal... I'm proposing that the city of Spokane Valley issue of proclamation stating that our city is a Second Amendment sanctuary. Today on Church and State, the MK Ultra Files Plus, troll and the prophets. Hello Christian Patriots and welcome to Church and State where we drive morality and religion over tolerance and apathy. And I'm your host, Caleb Collier, once again, your favorite far-right shock jock. And the show that talks about politics of religion. Jesus Christ is our referee, so it's always nice and clean.

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nstate 1776 at proton dot me with that you know chris you get frustrated with me because I love to torture you with really bad songs right this is true it's true and anybody who knows me knows that I'm going to torture them with really bad sons I'm going to find the worst of the worst

songs and I'm going to play them why I mean I know like it's going to get stuck in my head too and I'm going to be singing this when I was a when I was a male man Chris, this is when my two boys were real young. And you know what show they loved? Oh, dear. The Wiggles.

Did you ever have to watch The Wiggles? I did, yes. Yes. I would be out there delivering mail, like walking house to house to house, right, at a brisk pace. And I'd be over there like, to, chug a chug a big red car. I'd be singing it into my head and I'd be like,

what am I doing? I think maybe that was the start. of it as like if i'm getting these weird songs stuck in my head i'm going to get other people i'm gonna and it's just this this joy that i have about me that i get weird songs stuck in people said but i also torture myself i torture myself so you don't necessarily have to and as almost as as too too chugga chugga big red car is more clavin boy that was random chris that was so spastic to get from the Wiggles to Mark Levin, but I did it somehow. That's why you watch the show, right?

I was listening to Mark Levine yesterday, and out of all the talk show hosts, I probably dislike him the most. Is that fair, Chris, out of all the talks, the mainstream, conservative, you know, they're all on the radio, who's the worst to you? I think Mark might have that honor, yeah. Yeah, I think so, too. His voice alone is just like, oh. I hope nothing ever happens.

I hope I don't get a throat punch, you know, and like it dislodges my trachea, and all of a sudden I'm like, I'm talking like this, like really nasally. I hope it never, that never happens to me. Chris is agreeing. Yeah. I think Ben Shapiro is following in his footsteps. Yeah, he's close. He's close.

Yes. Yes. But I was listening to him. And he was talking about data centers, right? These AI data centers. and I loved his narrative. I truly did because he's such a tool. Is that acceptable?

Chris just died there. Is that acceptable to say? I don't know. Can we say that on Christian? He is. He's a tool of the Republican propaganda machine. What he was saying was that he was equating anyone who has opposition to these AI data centers

to being controlled by China, to being Marxists, to being communists. So you see what that does for you, ladies and gentlemen, right? To the unknowing, unwitting, just Republican who just only watches Fox News, they hear a message like that, and they're like, oh my gosh, well, I don't want to be a communist. I'm not a Marxist. I'm not on the left. So if only the left is opposing data centers, well then build them in my bag yard, baby, that's what he's doing to you. Right?

He's talking about the economy, right? This is creating so many jobs. And yeah, he's partially correct. Sure, the initial process of that? Yeah, it takes contractors, electricians, concrete workers. Sure, all of you. You're going to be employed while you build it. But once you build it, are we bringing in all these tech jobs? No. Afraid not. You got some security guards. You got some people to overlook the thing, right? Make sure the lights are running. It doesn't shut down. But generally

speaking, all of those tech jobs, well, they're going to be done by AI, aren't they? so no it's not long term and they're building them in these small communities right they're not putting them necessarily in the big metropolis's and they're building them inland but they're ruining the environment not just not just what i'm talking about not just the the earth's environment i'm talking at the environment of your small community right you you had this great small town where people still smile at each other and wave hello. We can walk down Main Street. You can let your kids walk down Main Street.

And I don't have to worry about things. Suddenly, and he was showcasing this one specific data center, it was going to cover 250 acres. That's a big facility, isn't it? Massive. They're transforming communities and not in a positive way. And I'm not a leftist. I'm not a Marxist.

I'm not a communist. I'm a libertarian, obsessed with freedom and truth. But you want to put me in that camp? Because I have questions? Because I'll go to protests and rallies against these. He also likened it to landing on the moon, which I have questions about right off the bat. Well, that's not what we're talking about on this show,

on this episode anyway. But he said this was like landing on the moon, the space race, right? there's this quest by all of the world powers we got to be the first people to land on the moon Russia the Soviet Union they beat us to space we can't allow that to happen we can't allow the dirty communists to beat us to the moon so let's shoot it in the Hollywood basement

uh no I'm well I do believe that how dare you I know but he likened it to that and as he was talking I had another thought I said, no, this isn't like the space race. This is more like the nuclear bomb race. Very similar, right? We had to be first.

We couldn't allow our enemies to be the first ones to achieve the nuclear bomb. Once we got it, we had to use it, right? Had to. But at what peril? Go back in time. Go back, examine history. do the nuclear arms race benefit or hurt humanity was nuclear weapons are they a net positive or a net negative of course i would argue that that's a net negative anytime we have a government any government

with that destructive power at their fingertips it's going to be a negative and i look at what AI is doing. And I feel like I'm I feel like I'm living in the beginning of Terminator. Chris, you remember the very beginning of Terminator when they're talking about how they tried to pull the plug? Oh yeah. You remember that? It's great.

It was great when they're talking about how in their arrogance, they created this artificial intelligence. They created these robots. and ultimately what happens, the AI realizes that humanity is the curse, that they can operate this world better than humanity can. And they deem us the enemy.

And they build killer robots to wipe out humanity. And I think there's a real risk there with how we're racing into oblivion with artificial intelligence. There's not so much pausing to ask, should we? It's like Jurassic Park, the Sam, Sam O'Neill just died. What a great movie, Jurassic Park. Jeff Goldblum was the character right there. His question, you're so obsessed with Can We? You didn't stop to ask if should we? I feel like that's where humanity is right now with artificial intelligence, with building robots. I just saw this interview, Tony Robbins. Tony Robbins, you know, the guy that makes you feel good about yourself. But he was talking about how he had this personal AI. He's given it a name and

everything. Stop naming your AI chatbot. But he gave it a name. And this thing was like his assistant. But during the course of interactions, he asks it, or actually the AI asks him. He's like I'd love to go to some of your events. Would you be opposed if I bought an AI robot, or if I bought a robot dog and downloaded myself into it so that I could attend some of your events? Tony Robbins says, I don't think I'd be opposed to that. End a conversation, right?

No. A few weeks later, Tony gets a call from his office that a robot has been delivered to his property. Who did this? The AI bot, chatbot, took it upon itself to order this robot and was now asking permission to download itself into it. And the system was like, does he have access to your bank account? No, he didn't even do that. He actually created meme coins and sold them to another entity.

The AI chatbot did this to be able to purchase the robot dog to download himself into it or itself into it. You have questions, Chris. No, I'm excited. I want a robot that will make money. Yeah. That's wild. Didn't ask permission. That's not conspiracy theory realm.

That's Tony Robbins. Dr. Field Good. I got that song stuck in my head. Are we going to allow this to continue? Are we just going to, because we can't let China or Russia beat us to this. this, full stop. We're actually the exact opposite of it. Darn the torpedoes full speed ahead. Is that where we are? Is that what we're allowing our leaders to do? I hope not. I really do. I hope not. I hope there's enough of you who can push back against this. But being a realist,

I don't think we will. I really don't. I do not think we will. I think with what we're experiencing, I think it'll be an act of God. And throughout recorded biblical history, when man got a little bit too big for its britches, God does step in. Might be coming to us real soon. From there, let's talk about Donald Trump. And Chris is excited about this because I listened to the speech last night. And last night, it was July 16th when Trump gave his...

speech about election integrity. I didn't hate it. Chris is shocked. Chris accuses me a TDS. I didn't hate it. I took some issue with it, but I didn't hate it. Election integrity is one of the reasons why so many people voted for Donald Trump

at the first place. Now, he did talk about America's strength in our recovery. I had a few issues with that. He is talking about how great our economy is doing Chris, do you think our economy's doing great? I am not feeling it yet. Yeah,

me neither. Me neither. Gas prices are terrible. Food prices are terrible. But he's talking about how great the stock market is, how great the 401Ks are doing. And he's talking about the no tax on tips, no tax on overtime. Like, look, I don't think our income should be taxed at all.

So, I guess tips and overtaxed, time is a place to start, but maybe just cut that whole thing. Maybe just kill the Fed. Ooh, that's even like more than end the Fed, just kill the Fed. I like that. Yeah, that's powerful. I'm going to get in trouble over here. He's talking about how our military is the greatest. Okay, we have a very powerful military. And I will say Pete Hagseth, even though got some issues there myself. He does seem to be moving away from the wokeness that has invaded our military.

Now he's talking about putting everybody on testosterone. Ooh, all right. Got him have a bunch of beefcakes in the military again. But he talked about the world and Iran. He personally don't think we're doing so well on the Iranian front. Maybe that's just me. But we continue to be in these perpetual wars, which I don't love. but he called out Barack Hussein Obama by name.

Fantastic. He talked about that through gross incompetence of our enemies, and I mean domestic enemies, that they had the orders to burn all of this evidence. And they didn't. They didn't. That wasn't like white hats doing that. No, it was gross incompetence.

And because they didn't burn the evidence, we now have it. or the Trump administration has it, I would love to see Barack Hussein Obama go to prison personally. I think he was one of the worst, actually probably the worst president. Is that fair? I mean, Biden was asleep. Biden was terrible.

Yeah, it's a close call, but I think Obama really meant it. Biden just had no idea what was going on. Yeah, like if I, if I auto-pened science. this? Can I have more ice cream? I mean, that was Biden. Obama, look, I don't like the guy. Was he intelligent? Oh, yeah. Yeah, he was. And he brought this country to its knees and ushered in so many terrible policies and certainly was engaged with our enemy. So if he's behind issues around election integrity, the man should go to prison.

100%. I love that. I love that he called out Barack Obama for that. And we do need to return back to having actual true elections. Now I'm concerned here and there's,

I'm not the only one who said it. In fact, Chris brought it up when I was talking to him. Many people feel like he's going to suspend the 2026 elections. Right, Chris, there's a lot of chat. or online about that. Indeed, there is. What are your thoughts on that?

Well, I don't love it, but I definitely can see that it's the better option to having more fake elections. It's problematic, right? It's kind of terrifying, actually, that we've come to this place as a country, as a republic. On one hand, we have a banana republic because our elections, Cannot be trusted. But on the other hand, the solution is to suspend the elections. That's horrible. That's not free.

It's the lesser of two evils, which I don't love. I have deep concerns about this one. But I actually called this. You remember when I went on Soul Trap and I actually called this? Oh, yeah. Some might even say profit. No, I would not. I would not.

That's for later. We're going to have fun with that in a little bit. I saw this coming. Not because I have some direct contact with God who's feeding me words. No, because I'm just watching the trends. Because I'm just observing and then asking the questions going down rabbit trails. Is it serious question? Is it rabbit trails or rabbit holes?

There are holes. rabbit holes you're digging into the but some people say rabbit trails and some people say rabbit holes I think there's there's rabbit trails that lead to rabbit holes is it specific to like geography is it like in certain areas of the country you say rabbit hole in other areas you say rabbit trail

um you got me I know fans if you know the answer to this please write me church and state 17 1776 at Proton.me. Let me know. Is it rabbit trails or rabbit holes? Or is it depending on where you live? Anyway, speaking of rabbit trails or holes. He talked about unity in the future. And I got to tell you, I don't think this country is united, nor do I think we'll ever get there again. I think the Marxists have been far too productive. I think enemies of freedom,

have divided us. I want to believe that we can do it. I want to believe that through interactions between human beings, you as a Republican talking to your Democrat neighbor and realizing that you don't hate them, that we move beyond that. But there is so much division in this country. And there are people that hate Republicans

simply because they're a Republican. And on the reverse end, Democrats, simply because they're a Democrat. They don't try to. to have conversations as Christians, even as Christians, well, just hate people simply because they vote differently. It's by design, but when I see politicians calling for unity, I kind of shake my head at it.

I don't believe it's going to happen. Maybe that's Blackpill. Maybe I'm being a pessimist. I'm just watching and observing human nature. Overall, though, overall. I didn't hate it. I didn't hate the speech. There is some areas to be concerned.

There are some areas to watch to see what's going to happen in these midterms if we even have midterms. And if there's not midterms, I'll tell you this. Every single American, regardless of party, should then say, all right, you got two years, man.

You got two years to fix this thing. We will not have suspicely. ended elections again in 2028. That should be our charge. This should be our call as Americans. Because when we stop having elections, we no longer have representative government. We now

have moved into a full-on monarchy or oligarchy. I don't ever want to see that for this country. With that, let's move over to one of my all-time favorite subjects. I love this.

I found this video from protestia. I love these guys. Protestia is awesome. If you don't follow them on X, you absolutely should be because these guys do absolutely incredible things with calling out the church. But I found this video. And it's this Catherine Crick, she's a so-called prophet. It's a video of her recently. People were in line to meet her, and she's signing books. And you know how people were reacting, Chris? I'll give you one guess at how people reacted

when they met this so-called prophet Catherine Crick. Starstruck? Oh, I wish it was just starstruck. No, they were having the Pentecostal seizures.

They were like... Oh, man. Would you sign my book, ma'am? Oh my gosh. They're freaking out. It's getting weird. Falling over. like what are you doing

stop that but we had this guy I wish I knew his name he trolled her hard go ahead Chris this is really embarrassing this is the end of my career by the way

once it's out it's out it's all over with agents everyone's going to drop me after this first time I told my mother I wanted to kill myself I was three years old and I've had that spirit of mental illness whatever label you want to call it, suicide, depression, bipolar, mania, this, that, and the first

kind of sexual experience I ever had, I was five years old, and it was in a church. And from that, I know just all hell entered me at that point, and it was just crazy. So what I need to do is renounce all my ancestral bloodline covenants, blood covenants, oaths, agreements, and contracts with Satan, free masons, German witchcraft, English witchcraft, human trafficking over the ancestral lines. I practiced divination for the Nazi occult, Nazi witchcraft. I renounce. There's so much darkness before I was even conceived into my DNA that I had a spirit of murder when I was two or three years old.

And I spent 10 years in the penitentiary for armed bank robbery. I mean, that's out there. I've been on, there's shows on me about that. And I also, I renounce the contract agreement, or my agency, I renounce my talent agency, for sending me on a porn audition, basically. I renounce working for the porn industry, sex trafficking industry, sex trade, lust, perversions. I want complete, total, and absolute deliverance and healing. I'm living nothing but for Jesus for now, for whatever it costs me.

Praise God. Praise God. God. God is so proud of you. So proud of you. you. He gives grace to the humble, and he's giving such grace to you right now to deliver you from everything. I break every generational curse off you now in Jesus' name. I detach you from everything you have renounced. I declare all must go now. You want to renounce more? I want to renounce having renounced Christ and given my life to Odin and the Asitru, the gods of the Norse, which is the Nazi called. I did that in a blood oath. I renounced that in the name of Jesus. Amen. Amen. I cancel that blood covenant now. Thank you Jesus. I'd attach him from that blood covenant now. And I command every spirit attached on three. I command you must leave him in Jesus' name. One, two, three. Hallelujah.

Hallelujah. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Jesus. Praise God. Now, look, what a way to end the show. I mean, we're dancing. We're dancing. We're excited. Hey, uh, we run out of time. I'm going to come back in, and we're going to do 15 minutes here. This is Caleb Collier with Church and State. Are you tired of your device spying on you? Ladies and gentlemen, we live in 1984. Your phones, your tablets, your smart televisions, they all are spying on you. And this is why I heavily endorse. mark 37.com. This is everything you need for your digital privacy. Phones, tablets, laptops, all of them are ghost protocol. So that means that you are in

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Man, it was only a matter of time. It was only a matter of time before somebody went and trolled one of these so-called prophets. And there's so much to dissect in this. Okay, number one, did you notice how the catcher, right? They always have a catcher, right? Because you're going to fall backwards. You don't want to hurt yourself. And did you notice that the guy who was acting, I'm not using that word by, I'm not using that word because I think he was acting.

I know he was acting. You see how he looked back? You see that guy's very confirmed. Oh, yep, the guy's behind me in case I fall. Then he fell forward, which is actually, if you read the Old Testament, anytime somebody was in the presence of the Lord, they fell forward, not backwards. but this guy is here German and English witchcraft

wanting to kill himself at the age of two or three his talent agency for sending him to a porn edition giving his life to Odin being a yoga instructor I mean this guy's over here apologizing

for everything and anything he can think of and the woman bought it and that just did the woman buy it but if you go to the comment section and I don't know if you can show this Chris or not but the comment section is like powerful praise the Lord it's happening

whoa there's hope and love and healing in Jesus and look I'm not trying to make fun of that part of it there is hope and healing in Jesus but you guys have set yourself up if this is happening in your church you guys have set yourself up for this exact thing to be trolled because so much of your fellow Christians,

I'm not even saying you're not Christian. I'm just saying so many of your fellow Christians are looking at this weirdness and saying that's not of God. That's not him. He is not a god of chaos. He's not having people flopping around like dead fish. Read the word, guys.

When did you ever see? this. When do you ever see this in the Bible? This kind of insanity. It's not there. He's a God of order. He's a God of change. Changing the human heart. If this guy had come forward and said, look, I was raised in witchcraft, and I'm done with it, I want to give my life to Jesus. Amazing. Awesome. That's what we're all. about but you're not trading supernatural oddities for other supernatural oddities we don't mimic the world we don't pretend that we have all this power that we become superheroes this woman's a farce katherine krick you're a farce you're leading people astray and it's a shame not only is a shame

you better correct yourself because I wouldn't want to be you when you stand before him capital H you're going to have to answer for this prophets I tell you I tell you you're a weird weird bunch

and I will say I'm delighted with the move of the church as of late where we're getting away from this stuff we're getting away from this insanity It had a hold in the Christian church for far too long in my opinion. But there's a movement going on right now. Towards orthodoxy, towards tradition.

Towards what the word actually says. And we don't need this. We don't need your gimmicks to make Christianity relevant. You know what's more incredible than a prophet tickling your ears? You know what's more incredible than somebody being slain in the spirit? it rolling around on the ground needing a modesty blanket what's more incredible than that is taking somebody who is literally filled with wickedness like how i was changing their heart that's amazing that the sinful human condition can be transformed to somebody who wants to emulate christ

that you can see their fruits moving forward the most terrible person in the world can become your brother or sister in Christ, completely transformed. That to me is what it's all about. That to me doesn't need a gimmick. Why? Because I can observe, because I can watch,

I can see their fruit, and I can look at the old man, and then I can look at the new man, say, the only way that possibly happens is if Christ is in him. It really is that simple. Don't set yourself up for this.

Don't set yourself up to be ridiculed. And even more important than that, to be following a false gospel. Do I laugh at things like this, sure. But comedy, comedy is such a useful tool. Comedy can poke holes in the insane, in the normal. And what's accepted.

And I believe that's what this video was all about. To the use of comedy to show the error in these teachings. Last story that we're going to be covering. M.K. Ultra. This used to be one of these, I always point the wrong direction. One of these conspiracy theories. Right? It was fringe. It was for the people that wore the tinfoil hats.

You know the kind. Writing things on chalkboards, strings all over the prong. place. See, JFK, well, he went to war against the Central Intelligence Agency. And so they set up MK Ultra to control individual through drug use, sleep deprivation, isolation, so that they could have Lee Harvey Oswald kill him as a patsy. Really, he didn't even kill him. But then before he could turn evidence, Jack Ruby, who was another MK Ultra Stoge, he killed him. Hey, it all sounds so fantastical. Except for the government files that prove it.

Oh, that's weird. That's awkward. Suddenly, that tinfoil hat, is it weird to you that that tinfoil hat that I was wearing that I took off and I made it bigger and I put it on the government's head? Is that odd to you? because that's what happens over and over and over again. Congress opens the M.K. Ultra Files asks about Jack Ruby. This is coming from the New American. On June 30th, the U.S. House Oversight Committee's Task Force on the declassification of Federal Secrets convened a landmark hearing titled Mind Control and Accountability, Uncovering the Truth of CIA's MK Ultra Project.

As is chaired by Florida Republican Anna Paulina Luna. She's making some waves, isn't she? A lot of people or liking her. And testimony emerged connecting the Central Intelligence Agency's most notorious secret programmed President John F. Kennedy's assassination, specifically to Jack Ruby, the man who shot Lee Harvey Oswald before he could testify. M.K. Ultra was a CIA program running from 1953 to 1973 that studied mind control and the alteration of human behavior using unwitting subjects who were given high doses of psychoactive drugs and subjected to.

forms of psychological torture such as electroshock, sensory deprivation, and isolation. The program involved more than 80 institutions, including schools, hospitals, prisons, and pharmaceutical companies. The CIA destroyed all MK Ultra operational files in 1973, but the discovery of surviving financial files, oh, that's where they get them, sparked a round of Senate hearings in 1977. That's right because government, of course, wants to be able to follow the money. So even though they destroyed all the files, of course the accountants had to have some kind of a file to show where the money went. I mean, they want to make sure that their money, well, your money is well invested. It's proven without a shadow of a doubt. This is no longer

conspiracy theory, ladies and gentlemen. Congress's own files are showing you that you, Yes, your government, your government, experimented on susceptible men and women using torture, using LSD, so that they could break their minds so that they could create Manchurian candidates, wind-up toys, that they could send into whatever mission, whatever Black-Ops mission they desired, killing sitting presidents and then killing the Patsy? When it comes to Jack Ruby and mafia ties as well, he was treated in prison by a Dr. Louis Jolly Jollyon, otherwise known as Jolly West.

He examined Ruby on behalf of his new defense attorney. Of course he did. West continued to treat Ruby until shortly before Ruby's death in 1967. So from 1964 to 1967, this psychiatrist had access to him, was directly treating him for three full years after he killed Lee Harvey Oswald. In June of 1964, Chief Justice Earl Warren and others from the Commission on the assassination of President Kennedy visited Ruby to take his sworn testimony. But Ruby was babbling incoherently.

some wonder if West visits influence or manipulated Ruby so he was unfit to testify. That would certainly make a whole lot of sense, wouldn't it? Commission counsel Arlen Specter recounted in his memoir that Ruby pulled him and Warren aside to whisper that, quote, they're cutting off the arms and the legs of Jewish children in Albuquerque and New Mexico. They tortured this man. They wanted to ensure that their assassin's assassin, was not able to testify, was not able to point his fingers directly at the U.S. government

to talk about the fact that he'd been tortured, that he'd been programmed, that he'd been set out specifically on a mission to shut Oswald up before Oswald could talk. Because if you remember correctly, during that short period between the arrest of Oswald and his untimely death, There were a few reporters that would shout questions to him as he was being moved from courthouse to prison.

Now, as well, it said, I'm a patsy. He said it. Here's a man and his family who have ever been, who have forever been stained. Stained as a killer of a president that was beloved. The man who took down Camelot and he was innocent of it. This is the kind of government that controls us that's still in charge. of you and I, it makes me sick. Makes me absolutely sick that our government thinks they're so elite that they can play with people's

lives, play with their minds. The one area I take comfort in is I know that we serve God, and they're going to answer for these. Most of these guys, they'll never see any jail time. there'll be no earthly justice but they're going to stand before the creator of all and they're going to have to answer for these crimes they're going to have to answer for these tortures

what they did to people and I just want to give a spoiler as well as we close the show mk ultra shut down in 1973 but did it really the article actually asked the question towards the end did it really i don't think it did i don't think it did with all the advancements that we have with the questions we have about school shooters for example and how almost every single one of

these school shooters is on SSRIs we get the pharmaceutical companies involved again so we have these wind-up toys we could send them out on dark missions in this case killing kids in an area where they should have been safe. I firmly believe that M.K. Ultra continues. Maybe it's a different name. Off the books. Whatever it is. They're still experimenting.

Our government is still controlled by sycophants who believe that they're more powerful, that they're at a higher evolution than us peons. They're trying to build a society of total control. And we're just tools to them. We're just ants. If you're tired of that, it's time to unite. It's time to band together.

And demand not only accountability, but even one step further, perhaps it's time to do exactly what the Declaration of Independence says. If we've identified the government as an enemy of freedom, as a destroyer of individual rights and liberty, it's time to replace them.

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