The Prepper Broadcasting Network - Church & State -The Scientific Formula of God and Creation with Dr. Nathanael-Israel Israel

Episode Date: July 24, 2026

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Church and State 1776 at Proton.me. With that, let's go ahead and bring on our guest. Now, I'm bringing on the founder of Science 180 Academy, Dr. Nathaniel, Israel, Israel. He's known as the first person in the world discover the mathematical equations that scientifically demonstrated that the earth was formed in

2.82 days, the moon 3.32 days, and the sun 3.69 days. That's incredible. That aligns with what the Bible tells us. Dr. Israel, thank you for joining us on Church of State. Oh, thank you very much, and I'm very glad you're having me here.

Yes, yeah, it's a real pleasure to have you on here. You were kind enough to send me one of your books. You're actually a prolific author. You sent me one for myself and one for my kids as well. You have a kid's version. But I've gotten through about half of this book. There's a lot of scientific information in here. But you did write it in a way that it wasn't just for the academics.

I guess there was kind of a balance in the book. It wasn't just for the academics. It wasn't just for the layperson. You kind of blended the two together. You're right. And thank you for that. In fact, it is a very big discovery and so big that I could not put it in just one book. That's why I wrote many.

As of now, I have a more than 10. And one is called turbulent origin of the universe. That's for the physicist, high-level science. Another one is called turbulent origin of life. That's for large scientists. Another is called turbulent origin of chemical particle. That's for chemists. The latest one that is called boldest,

certainly formula of God creation, is like the bottom line. I try to appeal to everybody, and from there, anyone can go read whichever version they are pleased to study. One of the things I really enjoyed about your book is, you know, there seems to have been this divide that was established.

You were either science or you were faith. And for a long time, world has been led to believe you can't have both. You can't have the best of both worlds. You can't have your cake and eat it too. But your approach here is to use the scientific data, some of the giants within science, you know, Einstein, Sir Isaac Newton, and examine their data and you were able to do so and realize that, hey, a lot of the scientists are getting this information wrong. That's correct. And that's a mystery for hundreds of years. let's say 3,500 years that the biblical account of creation was revealed by Moses, who said that God of Israel created the earth and finished its formation on the 30 day, the moon and the sun on the fourth day.

Nobody has ever proven this scientifically. You will see Christians that we tell you they believe in God and creation, And yet, some of them embrace theories like Big Ben, evolution, that we know very well, go against God. And on the other side, you will see scientists, secular scientists, who will say that they know everything about everything and denying God. To a point that it is hard for Christian to even defend their faith using pure science. because nobody has ever done what I did. And scientists who are looking for proof of God cannot find it from the Christian preaching or for the Christian theory

they are advancing and themselves, they are not able to find the answer through the secular theories that go against God. I'm privileged to have come to this discovery at the crossroad of sense and faith where you don't have to choose between science and faith. It is a framework, a new framework, not nowhere. It's very new. From UK to America, people now, they are being shocked,

trying to talk to me and see what is going on. It is a mystery reveal at a time like this. And I would love to go very with you as we talk more. Yeah, yeah, I absolutely love that. one of the things that frustrates me coming from the more the more secular side of society is is that they believe in science right and they they like to wag their fingers at us you you just believe in your your sky daddy as they refer to it and you don't question how this earth could have been made and yet the bible very clearly gives us the creation account and god's the author

of science he you know he doesn't operate outside of science he you know he doesn't operate outside of science He, science is his creation. And so it makes sense to me that science would be able to prove that he did what he said he did. And you see, if you go back to the Bible in the beginning, when God created Adam and Eve, one of the first commandments he gave them is be careful of the fruits of knowledge. Because if you eat that food, you'll be in trouble. They did not believe God, Satan tempted them, and they fell and they eat their fruit. And it is a search of knowledge that began with our forefather that led progressively to the creation of science.

And because in the beginning and even today, it is not based on what God is saying. It is not based on God revelation. Most of the things they are doing, let's say how they are interpreting scientific data is the problem. The problem is not science itself. the role data collected by scientists from the universe, from nature, from the invisible, is correct. But the problem is, how are they interpreting those data? To that point, we can say that secular science theories are against God, most of them, as far as creation is concerned, but the raw data they collected is not against God.

So my duty that I was honored to handle is to analyze this data through a new framework. I did not collect a single data. I used what collected by 70s for thousands of years and verified by NASA to come here. Yeah, I really, really like that. And let me ask you a question regarding... the different theories within this. Now, obviously, most people are familiar with the Big Bang theory, and then obviously Christians are going to be familiar with the creation story.

But within that, and especially within the Christian church, it seems to me that there's been some that have compromised, some that are now claiming that, well, God could have used evolution, or the Big Bang could be describing what God did. Or maybe we live in not a young earth, but actually an old earth that's billions of years, old. Is that just the church attempting to compromise with what the established secular scientists are claiming? You are right. It is a compromise. But when I, when I study this thing deeply, I realize that it was also the consequence of an ignorance. I don't think that most scientists who embraced those secular theory knew what they were doing properly. You see, after my discovery,

I went ahead and I studied most of the major religion in the whole world. In this book, I call it SBC Accurate Sassan Vanity, Accurate, Sarnity Proof of God. When I review the religion in the world, I discovered that only the Bible has a story that much exactly the math I did. Now, you talk about different division of creationism. Before I go there, let me first. Let's talk to you about the creationist or why. You see, when you take the war religion, it is only Islam and Christianity, let's say Islam and Judaism, that have a creation story. Ando-Indoism, Buddhism, Confucianism, the religion in China, they don't have any creation story.

You go to Africa and Caribbean animism, they don't have any creation or story. Now when you take Islam and Judaism, let's a Christian story. Christianity and Islam. Although Islam said that they believe in Sists of Creation, they put the formation of the Earth on day one and the formation of the moon and the sun on the seas, which is against what the Bible said. The Bible says the Earth was completed on the 3 and the sun and the moon on the 4. And that is exactly what my formula approved. To say that, Christianism, Islamist, Islamic creationism, we now can prove that they are scientifically wrong. Islam is wrong religion.

They must prove that. Now, when you take the Christian, I can break it down maybe in three. Like you said, the young earth creationist, the young earth who believe that the earth is less than 10,000 years, who believe that the day of creation are really 24-hour consecutive days. And they are right. This is true. But I will tell you the world where they miss it. You have the old earth creationist who will tell you that, yes,

got to create it. But they say that the creation is a billion of years backing the wrong theory of evolution and big men. And then you have also the intelligence design. They too try to prove creation, but they don't really publicly said that the designer is God, they seem to be a little bit more diplomatic in the approach to use sense to prove a desire that not clearly God, although it is. Now, in the book, I review all of them, I see where they are wrong. The problem is, when you take the Young Earth creationism,

although they believe in the right thing, the approach was not right. You will see most of them to prove creation. They talk to you about Noah floor, Nova Gritty Floor, they talk to you about the Fosier, they talk to you about Green Canyon, they talk to you about dinosaurs, and basically, the theory, most of those speakers turn around those things. But all those, the intention is good.

You will not find most of those things are listed in Genesis chapter 1, which is about creation. There is no aggrateful in Genesis 1. There is no fociar, no dinosaur. Of course, that is all you may be talking about animals. But to talk about creation of celestial body, Genesis chapter 1 from verse 1 to 21 is plenty. But you won't see any of the things they focus on there.

I get it, they don't know how to do better. Now, when you go consider the vision, old earth creationism, I know them, I just don't want to listen to them. A big mystic. They will tell you, God use billion of a year to create the universe in its six days. Nonsense. It doesn't much. Still, you will find preachers, mega tele-evangelists, theologian, top people we respect, defending that nonsense. And one of the atheists, the free tango look at it they laugh and of course they are happy they are happy to see christian back in the billion of year so me when i came into all this thank god i was not trained as a

a physicist in america i got my PhD in plant science and i finished my PhD first of my class so it is my life story that that led me to go see what NASA NASA NASA N-A-S-A is insane by the formation of the universe. And that's where I found data. And because I didn't have any prejudice, any preconceived mindset, the data led me to where is the truth. And that's where we are now.

You know, you dropped a lot of knowledge bombs on us right there. Let me dissect a few things. Number one, what you were talking about with these people who have puffed themselves up with knowledge, And I'm sure you would agree with me that so oftentimes when we deal with these individuals, they're lacking wisdom. And that seems to be the issue within the secular scientific community is they're so puffed up with their own knowledge and oftentimes inventing theories that contradict each other, that they're lacking that wisdom that you and I both believe is found in the Bible. I also really, really appreciate the fact that you called out Islam right off the bat. Well, I mean, you called out all the other religions.

all the world religions out there. And none of them have a creation theory or story. But Islam does. But mathematically, you are able to prove you guys are wrong. And if you're wrong at the foundation, right, at the creation, then your entire religion is false. If you're wrong from the very beginning, why would I follow that? And then the third point here, and I'll let you hit on all three of these topics that I just said. but the third one here is that compromise that you're discussing there and really calling out the Christians.

Look, if you believe that God the Father, the creator of it all, can perform miracles still today, can heal you like that. Why would you believe that he needed billions upon billions of years to create this whole thing in the first place? That's a good comment. Yes, you are right. They lack the wisdom. You see in the Bible, when you see the teaching, of Apostle Paul, he will tell you plainly that the wisdom of this world is foolishness and the foolishness that the world think we believe in have is God wisdom. So people who don't know God, they don't

have the light to understand spiritual things. They are living darkness. But where the thing is shocking though, there are many people who say they believe in God. I just listen to them. If I can name companies leaders who are trying to fight me for what I discovered now, you'll be shocked how many of our own leader are doing the same thing unbelievers are doing. And because of the ego, they don't want to repent, humble themselves and embrace the truth. You see, so wisdom is a key, but also we need to be willing to die for the truth. even if we don't have any interest in defending, we serving God. Now, you talk about Islam, of course.

They have a creation story. You see, it is only in the Bible that from the first book, from the first verse, you have a chronological story. In Islam, if you get Quran, it didn't begin by your creation. Even the own elite, their own scholar. prove that they don't have a clear story it is here and there that drops some verse and in the whole Quran it is as if the Muslim the forefather is trying to prove the Jew wrong and you see story very shocking and like you said yes if you miss the beginning you cannot get the end and this is not preaching I'm not a pastor I'm not a preacher it's a mathematics

people can fight me as as they wish but that's what the mafia is saying And it's kind of shocking, but this discovery at a time like this, this is not a joke. It took me 12 years to come here, and I was quiet. And now it's time to speak, and nobody cannot stop it. Sure, absolutely. Yeah. So let's get into the nuts and bolts, because I'm sure the audience is like, I want to know how he mathematically was able to prove that the earth,

and let me get the numbers correct here. on the back of your book here, but the Earth was formed in 2.82 days, the Moon in 3.32 days, and the Sun 3.69 days. How are you mathematically and scientifically able to prove that? A good question. I will use the example of the Earth, and the reader can get a book and see for the Moon and then the Sun. You see, one of the greatest mystic the scientific people have made, is they don't know the history of the journey of the celestial body precursor. It is not by chance that we have the moon at a precise distance from the earth moving at a precise speed and we have the earth itself at a precise descent from the sun

moving at a precise speed and we have the moon the sun and the earth having precise size size So my formula to make a long story short proved that all those stills a body had a precursor and that that precursor have a precise journey and and travel a certain distance before arriving at the place where we see those body today and then the forefather left the foreign was a wrap around at a precise speed to become what we have today. So if you take for instance the Earth, the formula is proven that the four runner of the Earth,

which are called the precursor of the Earth, move from about the position of the song and travel a distance equal to that separating the Sun and the Earth before arriving at about the orbit of the Earth and then that precursor was on the Earth, that precursor was wrap around like how you can wrap a spaghetti model around the fork to become the earth we know today so the formula you see if i i take on i don't know if you can see if i take

uh what i'll show you it is a t equal d divided by v e plus two api divided by v o what does for me I told you, the following of the earth, move from about the sun to the earth at the speed. So if you take the distance separating the sun and the earth and divide that by the speed of that journey, you will see the first part of the time it took for the earth to be formed. I will tell you very soon how I get there. I'm just giving you further the formula explanation. So take the distance between the earth and the song and divide by the speed that scientists they know. Since the days of Isaac Newton, they know that speed.

It is called escape velocity of the song. The speed required for fame to move out of the song, minimum speed, they know that. So when you take the decision and divided by that speed, and to that, you are going to add now how not you took for the foreigner of the earth to be rapid run. You take the length of the speed,

therefore running of the earth and divide that by the speed of the wrapping simple math so the distance approved it is about the circumference of the perimeter all around the earth and when we know the radius of the earth to calculate the perimeter around the earth or the circumfer on the earth you just do two multiply by pi multiply by the radius pi is just 3.1 and you divide that by the speed at which the earth is moving around the sun today, it was now since hundreds of years. So, that was the formula saying. But how did that get there? But together, sir, it took me 12 years. I went over hundreds of variable collectors on the stressor body. I studied a lot of stuff. Science, chemistry, life science. Thank God. My God, my dear.

journey from Africa, I was born and raised in Africa. I moved to America about 20 years ago. Former was 15 plus years now. I'm a U.S. citizen. And I'm proud to be living in this great country. And I'm proud to be discovering this year, which also all our nation. So my journey from Africa to America. And in America, what I went through before I got my PhD. And after my PhD, I have trained my mind to think a certain way, to think a little bit of the United. differently. So when I got those data, a lot of those variables, people can access them in my books, the boldest scientific of God in creation or when they go that they can serve a book I wrote. It's analyzing those data that allow me to piece together one by one. What may have happened

from this variable to that one, to this one, the distance between things, the size, their speed, how the activity, how is the orbit, ton of stuff. And to get there, there is a mystery in science that they call turbulence. Turbulence. It is well known as a mystery, in fact, as an unsolved mystery in science. But me not having been trained as a physicist, I was able to crack that thing. And it was breaking that code that let me find a formula. And for 500 years, the scientists in turbulence had been trying to prove it.

They cannot prove it. So I had to break that before I discovered the simple formula I just told you. I hope people can follow up in the book and see very detailed. Yeah, yeah, definitely. I'm glad you brought up the turbulence because I was actually going to be my next question for you. We'll probably have to wait until after the break there. But going back to your formula that you found developed, does that require a focal point then?

Is that part of the mathematical equation that if you're going to be looking at the distance between these two celestial bodies, that there has to be a focal point from where it started? You see, it's a matter for what I call split gathering. It's a concept I coined. What that means? The way celestial body were formed, it is as if something was split, and then the firm bonnouts were gathered. Now, as any scientist, why is the moon orbiting the Earth

and why is the Earth orbiting the sun? And why they even think that a sun, let's say the solar system, is orbiting around the center of the Milky Way galaxy, the galaxy you belong to? And they will even tell you that even the Milky Way galaxy itself is or seem to be orbiting another center of closer galaxy and so forth. So when you study the way celestial body are organized across the universe, it is like a nest of all of body orbiting after body from the satellite to planet, to a stellar system,

to a galaxy, to a galaxy system, to a galaxy-classy system. You see, when you see the global network of cells of body, the heart is. Now, even if when you take atoms, when you take chemical particles, it is one normal for more than 100 years that atoms are like you have in the middle, the nucleus or let's say the proton and the neutron. And Irani, they believe you have the electron. It is the same thing that replicating everywhere, You come to a nation, you will see families, you have a father and a mother surrounded by children,

you have a family surrounded by a grandparent, a grandparent, the same thing that happened with a social body also happening here. So to answer a question is short, yes, there is a beginning for those things, the reference, the reference, and you must consider that reference before you can put things to do that. good property. All right. I appreciate that response. We've hit that hard break, ladies and gentlemen, but we're going to continue on. It'll be about another 15 minutes. Hey, this is Caleb Collier with Church and State, and I want to tell you about methylene blue. For a long time now, you've seen the Maha people using Methylene Blue. I thought I'd give it a try. You know what? It helped me

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And we're talking about the creation. We're talking about mathematical and scientific proof that the Bible is accurate. Now, we were talking about the theory that was developed, the mathematical equation. And so as I'm looking through this, and I had another question that I wanted to bring up, and then I'll go to turbulence, sir. But can we apply your mathematical scientific principles to every single planet? Can we look at Mercury, Venus, Jupiter, for example, and determine when those were created as well? Of course, and I did that in this book.

You see, this book called Turbulent Origin of the Universe, it is like 700 pages. In it, I developed, I detail a lot of things. And I calculated how long each of those reservoiry, how long it took for them to be, form. And from Venus to Mars to, I mean, let's say, Mercury to Venice, to Earth, to Mars, to Jupiter, Saturn, Uranis, all of them. They have precise date. And when you plug the formula, it's easy. Not just in the system. Now, if you go to other stellar system, other galaxy, you can also use the same formula to calculate how long they were born. But because the Bible focused on, the earth, the moon, and the sun, I should to focus on those things, or do I comply anyway?

I don't have to. So that's it. Okay, absolutely fascinating. I mean, I've always been fascinated by astronomy. I always look to the stars and just kind of wondered. And so I love the concept. I absolutely love the idea. Now, one of the things that you also talk about in your book is turbulence.

That was very turbulent in the creation. Can you explain that for the audience? Yes. Turbulence, like I said earlier, it's a very complicated topic. It is like the way things like fluid, let's say water or air, move and organize themselves. When you talk to the expert, the expert in turbulence and ask them to define for you, they will tell you turbulence is a chaotic thing, a random disorder. that how they define it. But as for me, when I study, it's not a chaos. It will the people who are

trying to access it, who lack to understand what is happening there. And me, I came to that conclusion by analyzing their own data. Slowly, no pressure was not me. No church, no university, no government, no nobody was helping me. So I was against all those pressure. I took my time slowly. Because when I saw it data, I felt like, hey, this is a serious that I need to handle. I knew if I told them that we have killed me by now. If I didn't see how not they are against me, not just vesicular, even the people who say they believe in God, some of them. So, turbulence is not chaos.

It is very organized. When you have, when you take water in the bucket and you throw in the air, you see, it can break. down. People can do that in themselves. Take water, flowing in the air, you see, it can break down into pocket of water. When you see cloud in the sky, whether it's for tornado, for a hurricane, even when, how things turn and organize into structure, all those are part of turbulence. When you have turbulence, you have water called 3D, fend organized in like in different structures that you can easily see. Now, it is defined for the people to understand.

And when you go into the math, what you know discover is when you have turbulence, feng are moving at precise speed and be rearranged differently according to precise law, according to precise assets and references, giving birth to precise structure which can be moving in different circle, different orbit, elongated and a tight, tilted in a different way. But when you don't know how to organize them, you may think that are not moving properly. Why is the, all the planet,

let's say all the asteroids, why are they moving around the sun? Why is the moon moving around the Earth? Why is the mass, two satellites, moving around Mars? You go to Jupiter, more than 60 satellites, moving around Jupiter. sudden, more than 200,

something around them, and still all of them moving around the song. Imagine you reduce that to a small scale. You can see how really think I've been messed up. So it's a misunderstanding about this concept that could people to be thinking that it cares. And when I study all the collected, you can never ever crack the code of the universe if you don't understand that.

I absolutely love this. You know, the Bible tells us that God is a God of order, and science has told us that there's chaos in our environment, in the universe. You're absolutely right. What you just said makes complete sense to me. I hope it does to the audience as well. We may view it, and because of our finite human understanding, we may see that and say, that's chaotic. But you're right. It all has order.

Your example of throwing water up in the air. that may seem chaotic, but it's still got formed to it, right? It's still water. It's gravity is taking effect. There's still order to all of that. I think that's absolutely fantastic and groundbreaking, honestly, because it flies in the face of what modern science tells us, but just to a layman, it makes a whole lot more sense.

You see, even when you take the Bible, the first few verses, God said the beginning, God created heaven and earth. It is said the earth has no form. It was formless. But God told us how it was form. And he said, the spirit of God moved on the surface of the water. And God said, there were division of water from water. You see? And then they said, God gather things before forming the earth, the moon and the sun and many other. That fear I just said is stubbornness. The separation of water from water, the movement of water, God almighty, do you think we move on the water like slowly? No, it is a power, it was very powerful. If you take water and shake it slowly, it will not move as if you shake it very strongly.

It is the way God shook feign, God created things, God push for emotion that gave everything motion. everything motion. That's the beginning of energy that gave everything motion. And the way those things end up being, unless they're four running and end up being organized. Later to what we have today, our celestial body, atoms, a particle, molecule, molecule, whatever you, whatever you want. In a way that everything is a scale. It is scale. Sentence now themselves know that, if you change one here, one change in here. Why? They are all. connected and God knows what he did he knew while he used six days he knew what he gave us days to rest feast different things organized for calendar a lot of stuff

long the short God is right and please people they're to get who don't understand sense can get what's called how baby universe was from it one of the book I wrote it before for children parents who never went to middle school can understand this so They can read from themselves what I'm talking about. You see, like this one, this book I call Reconciling Science and Creation Accurately. In it, I explain a lot of things in the Bible that people read and take for granted. Pastors, preachers, Christians who want to really answer many of the questions need to get that book and read.

And I'm here available. I invite me to your church, to your school, to your school, university, whatever I can speak and help, no matter how much want to pay me or not, my goal is to help the whole world know this is real. And we need to take this seriously. Absolutely. Well, that is, you know, what God has called you to do. When you were speaking about all the different creations, things that we bypass even when we're reading into the Bible, I loved the separation of waters that you were bringing up. You know, God's response after every single day was it was good. His creation is good. And I think Christians need to remember that,

that that order, not chaos, but that order in his creation, that it is good. I love that you brought up all the different books, and we're going to showcase the different websites here. We've got two, ladies and gentlemen, that I want to bring to your attention. Number one, we have Science180.com. And Chris is going to show you that right there at science.180.com. Go check this out. It's where you can order all the books. And there's also a second website that I want to promote as well, Israel.12.com. There's a lot of information on both of these websites. But I also, sir, and then I'll turn it back over to you to plug the website once again, or the websites once again. I love that you travel, that you're going to churches. And I know I have a large audience

of Christians, and a lot of you are probably pastors. This is a great opportunity to, you, to bring a man, a very, very well-educated man, into your congregation to shore up the wisdom and knowledge that we have as Christians so that they can go out into the world and reject what secular science is telling us, to be able to defend our faith, which, by the way, the Bible tells us that we should always be ready to defend our faith. And so I would encourage every single pastor out there watching the show, reach out to Dr. Israel, and bring them to your church. and I'll turn it back over to you to plug the websites again, sir, and your books.

Thank you very much for coming. I'm available. Don't say you have money. If you don't have money, I can help you. I can answer a question and you can gather people in your church and they scream. I can help. You see, I was working at a 500 company before I began this. So if my goal was just to make me,

and be rich, I will have done it. But it's satisfied. So, and I'm willing to share this with the world. Unlike the most speaker who will tell you, you must pay me this before I speak this, I don't want to do that, or do I can. Help me help the world to know that really all God is true. So we can have a mathematical or a scientific proof to ignite The revival we are looking for. You will see, preacher say, you want revival, you want revival. The revival will come from the production. It will come from the secular world.

It will come from ourselves. Let it creep ourselves so we can be really the church that can influence this state. And this is really important to have a story we can take and understand to defend our faith and help them believe in God. And there was a little bit of an audio issue there. I apologize to the audience, but it was just right there at the very end. But, sir, it's been an absolute pleasure having you. And just to reiterate what you were saying there, defend your faith. Bring this man in to be a speaker. You already heard from his own words. I mean, this is a man that is dedicated 12 years of his life to exploring these theories before he ever brought his to the public. eye. That's a man of patience. That's a man of humility. And once again, you're going to be edified if you start at least reading these books. So I recommend them. I thank you, sir, for sending me two free copies, one for me and one for my kids. I haven't brought it over to my kids yet, but definitely

they're going to be reading it. And I just, I want to thank you once again for just being a bold man of the faith and using the area where God had given you gifts. to where you could actually promote biblical literacy, promote the sciences that God is the author of. So again, I thank you for joining us on Church and State, and thank you for all the work that you've contributed to our faith. Thank you very much. And for any question, any comments, email me from Sense.

Warnedith.com or IsraelWan10.com. I will be pleased to answer you, and God bless you. Thank you, sir. All right. Well, I'm going to go ahead and close this out if you hold on one more minute post-production and say our goodbye, so I'd appreciate it. But again, thank you for your time on Church and State. Thank you.

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