The Prepper Broadcasting Network - FOIL FRIDAY: Church & State -UFO Disclosure with LA Marzulli

Episode Date: June 26, 2026

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The Bokane Valley could become a sanctuary city of a different kind. I'm proposing that the city of Spokane Valley issue of proclamation stating that our city is a Second Amendment to sanctuary. Today on Church and State, UFO Disclosure with L.A. Marzuli. Hello Christian Patriots and welcome to Church and State where we drive morality and religion over tolerance and apathy. And I'm your host, Caleb Collier, once again, your favorite far-right shock jock. And the show that talks about politics and religion, Jesus Christ, is our referee. So it's always nice and clean. real quick, I'm going to point you over to

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L.A., thank you so much for joining us on Church and State. Thanks for having me. Really appreciate it. Good to be here. Absolutely, yes. So with what I just said, all of a sudden Christians are talking about UFOs that are they're talking about aliens. All these pastors are going out there saying that they've been brought to secretive meetings with the government to ready people for an alien encounter. Well, that's the prevailing story. It's sort of everywhere. The question is, was it really our government that did it?

Are these just whistleblowers? We don't have a trail. We don't have anything we can point back to. Right now it's a lot of hearsay, even from the people that were allegedly there. And it's being what's troublesome to me, and I just did a show with my publisher, John Carisma, John Manorazzo, who works at Charisma Media. And, you know, they published the Rund of Disclosure, shameless plug here, but 17 rungs, and right now we're up to run number 28.

So rungsledgedoDisclosure.com. But here's what we talked about and what's alarming to me. This is being pushed out to the Christian church. Oh, it's all demonic. Not so fast. Not so fast. And thanks for having me on. We can talk about this.

So when we talk about demonic, what are we really talking about? And unfortunately, the church, for the most part, I mean, there are segments of Christianity which actually get into demonology and the difference between fallen angels and demons. Most Christians have no idea. They just lump it all together.

Mistake number one. Because what we're looking at, at is physical. What we're looking at has physicality to it. This is not phantom. This is not delusion. These are not, you know, little puffs of things that come in and out. It's not what we're looking at. What we're looking at are nuts and bolts technology. You say to yourself, well, why does God do that? Why would God allow something like that? Well, read Second Kings. Chapter 6, I got this from my friend Nando Gonzalez. But I actually quoted this way back in the Nephilim trilogy, which you referenced. So when Elijah, the problem,

with a servant Kahazi are surrounded by the Syrian army. Ghazi is thinking, it's like we're going to die. It's over, right? And I get that, the natural man. But Elijah goes, Lord open his eyes and boots Kahazi out of a tent. Ghazi like his eyes are open supernaturally. What does he see? I saw the chariots of fire all around Elijah.

What is a chariot of fire? Let's go back a couple of thousands of years, right? All you have in your lexicon, the apex mode of transportation, is a chariot thousands of years ago. That's it. It's all you got. Sure. So you're looking at something and you go, chariot, because you're trying to describe what you saw, motor transportation,

a vehicle, and this thing is really bright. It lights up. So what do you say? Fire. Because fire is all you got. You have oil lamps and torchlight, and you've got bonfires and cooking fires. So what's a chariot of fire? You tell me. You tell me what a chariot of fire is. You can tap dance around that to McAulcaste.

but they're and these are the good guys these are the good guys and then you say well why do why do angels eat technology this is ridiculous so like okay let's go to another one what about when the when the angels in the book of Ezekiel two angels go into Jerusalem and what do they have they have slaughter weapons what is a slaughter weapon what about the angel who takes this inkhorn and puts a mark on people's heads we're looking at supernatural technology what about the flaming sword that turns every which way that guards the entrance to the Garden of Eden. The cherub beam are next to it,

but the flaming sword is in the middle. The cherub beam are not wielding it. The cherub beam are there, and in the middle is this flaming sword, which turns every which way by itself. Boom, boom, zoom, boom. It's a lightsaber. And that's ridiculous.

Not really. Flaming sword, lightsaber, you tell me what the difference is. Technology is all through the Bible. Then I'll just give you the last one. There's others I could point to. The New Jerusalem, is that just a phantom? Is that just some sort of a, oh, there's nothing?

Who's building a New Jerusalem? 1,500 miles high, 1,500 miles wide and deep and all the stuff? I mean, do you realize what we're looking at here? This is like, this is the eternal city. This is unbelievable, the New Jerusalem. And it just doesn't go boom on the earth and kill everybody. It kind of floats down. How is that even possible?

We don't know. So the church, all that to say, we have a very truncated view of a supernatural. That's the background. So let's talk about the difference between demons and fallen angels. Angels, immortal body, both the good and the bad, they cannot be destroyed. How do we know that? Because the bad guys wind up in a lake of fire. And apparently that goes on forever.

I don't pretend to understand that, but that's what it's why. They're not going to change. They're in some sort of a fixed state. fallen angels are in a fixed state. They don't want to repent. They can't repent. I don't know how that works. It's beyond my pay grade.

But eventually, they wind up a lake of fire with the false prophets and the whole deal. The antichrist, everybody's there. They have immortal bodies. Demons, according to the book of Enoch, and immediately some people go, oh, can't read the book of Enoch. You're going to keep one book away from the people.

You keep Enoch one. When you take chapter six of Enoch one and you overlay it with the King James Bible, chapter six word for word it's verbatim except the sons of god are the fallen angels the angels of heaven so the book of enai tells exactly who the sons of god are my mentor dr i d thomas in his book the amegia conspiracy nailed this it's always benaiah alohem is in the hebrew and it always refers to the angelic host so these are the sons of god these are the fallen angels the fallen angels saw the women of earth they were beautiful genesis six and took wives why did they

they do this, Genesis 315. Thank you, Gary Stearman. Why do they do this? It points back at Genesis 315. Adam and Eva were in the garden. They've just done something unthinkable. They're not sure what it is. Their DNA has been changed. They are terrified. They're hiding from the Lord. They realize they're negative. By the way,

Jesus bears our shame on the cross. He's completely negative on the cross. Most people don't realize that. He bears our shame. I mean, it's just, don't get me going because I don't want to get that rabbit trail. So Adam and Eva here, the dragons over here of a shining woman in the cost, Jesus is in the garden, pre-incorna Christ, and he looks at the dragon and he says,

this is the gateway to the entire Bible, folks. Understand Genesis 315, Bible opens up. Don't understand Genesis 315. Have the wrong exegesis. Never understand what you're reading, in my opinion. Thank you, Gary Stearman, for illuminating this years ago at the Nepali Mounts Conference. The Lord says, Jesus says to the dragon, your seed, your offspring will be at war with the offspring of the woman, the seed of the woman. The one coming from the woman will crush your head, you'll bruise his heel.

That's it, it's the whole Bible. Three chapters later, what do we see? This incursion from, you know, interdimensional entities with a very nefarious agenda. And guess what? And the Lord just showed me this about a month ago, the flood wipes everybody out except for eight people. Something happened to the inhabitants of earth. They sided with the dragon, but this injection on my part. I always preface it by saying this. I felt the Lord showed me this. I can't prove it, but I felt it was like a revelation and doing it what you will. Was there some kind of a mark something that was given to the people outside of Noah and his sons and his sons' wives that changed their DNA, that the Lord just wiped them all out because they were no longer human.

What do we see in the book of Revelation? Why does Jesus tell us it would be like the days of Noah. Just just saying, it's a lot of conjecture here. But food for thought, it'd be like the days of Noah when he returns. In the book of Revelation, people take the mark. Anybody who takes the mark, what happens to them? They wind up a lake of fire. Why is that? There is no grace and mercy. So is there some sort of a connection that is not written in the biblical narrative? Very possible. That's why I always preface it. It's conjecture. But something's happening. And what it is, it's the seed war, the mingling of the seed. Then Daniel 243, their seed will mingle with the seed of men, but they will not cleave to them, which is exactly where we are.

So it's complex. Demons, demons are the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim. The Nephilim are the progeny of fallen angels and human women, creating a hybrid Nephilim, which was never supposed to be here, and that's why the flood. And the disembodied spirits of a Nephilim become the demons that wander the earth. they need bodies to inhabit. When Jesus cast out the demons from a demoniac, right, we are legion, we are many. Okay, we don't know how many demons can fit in a human being, but they're there. And then they don't know. I could get down a rabbit trail here, but I'll restrain myself.

But they go from the human being, the man, to a herd of swan. We all know of a story to swine freak out. So demons need to inhabit a human being, an animal, or an object. in order to manifest in this dimension. Fallen angels do not. Here's the proof text. Satan is a fallen angel. When Satan appears to Jesus,

who was fasting and praying for 40 days, right? Turn the stones to bread. That's not a phantom. And then he takes Jesus, he takes Jesus and brings him up to a high place, right? And shows him in a moment of time, all the kingdoms of the world. Fall down and worship me,

and all these can be yours. So what we're looking at here, nobody ever talks about this. First of all, there's by location. Jesus is in the desert. The dragon appears, he's flesh and blood, he's not, you know, he's an immortal being, but he's there. And he takes Jesus, that's not phantom, that's not demonic delusion. He takes Jesus and moves him by location from point A to the high place, where he opens up time as we know it and shows him all the kingdoms of the world. How is it possible?

You see, we look at these things, but we turn the page because, and then he moves them from the high place, moves them over to the temple now, on a pinnacle of a temple, by location again, and then brings them back. It's physical. It's not delusion. It's not some sort of a mirage. He's there. He's moving from point A to point B, point B to C, and then back again to A. So fallen angels can shape shift. They can appear as Nordics. They can appear as male or female. They can appear as an angel of light. That's what our Bible tells us. So they can, you know, what do they really look like? That's a three-hour conversation and some of its conjecture. But we know that angels look like men. Paul tells us, some of you have entertained angels unawares. I had an angel sit next to me on a ski trip.

I'm not making this up. I'm not making this up. I'll tell you this story real quick, real quick. Just me. I'm skiing myself in spring conditions. My wife is on another chairlift. and I'm in a state where I'm not sure where the ministry should go next. I'm kind of in a quandary about it.

And I'm praying. You know, Lord, I'm not sure what to do, what to call this new feature. You know, I need direction. So there's nobody in the ski lines, and it's spring condition. So I'm skiing up and down and up and down and up and that was one run. And I pull into the lift, and I'm there by myself. It's a four-seater, four people can sit in this chair. All of a sudden I hear, hey, mind if I join you?

I go, no, no, come on up. So this guy comes up. He looks like Chris Grangle, number one. Looks like Chris Gringle. He's completely fit. He's wearing a ski racing suit. He's got all these different patches from all these different ski resorts. And he sits down.

So if there's, I'm on the left of a chair. He's on the right of a chair, two empty seats. And he goes, how many days a ski do you have this year? And I go, I'm only about 15. Kind of puffing my chest up, you know, 15. Wow. He goes, oh, I got 120. So obviously this guy skis every day.

And he's like, you know, he's a skier. And he goes, I guess you must be working, right? I go, yeah, I'm still working. Well, what do you do? Well, I make films and write books. I'm in Nephilim. So I'm figuring, here we go. We have a five-minute chair ride.

I'm going to give him the thumbnail sketch. Maybe I can win his appetite and talk about Jesus. Who knows, right? So I'm doing this. And he skips right over that. He doesn't say anything about, he doesn't ask me who I'm in Nephilim, right? And then he goes, and I go, yeah, I have a YouTube channel? And, oh, have you ever seen this one channel?

And I go, no. Well, she's got, her name is Itchy Boosh, that's the name of the channel. She's got over a million subscribers. I go, oh, that's way beyond my league. This is where it goes off the rails, okay? Completely off the rails. Remember, there's two empty seats. He reaches over, and he touches my right shoulder.

And he goes, no, you're doing the right thing. Keep doing what you're doing. You're on the right track. And at this point, when he's touching me, all of a sudden I've got brain fog. And I'm thinking to myself, what is going on? Who is this God? why is he you know he's just just met this guy he doesn't know me how can he possibly say you're doing the right thing keep doing what you're doing you're on the right track the chairlift

ends i get off he gets off he cuts in front of me waves goodbye never see the guy again i just go straight ahead with my eyes like this what just happened i'm trying to process it and that night i asked the lord lord is that is that one of your guys and i thought the holy spirit and say, yep, and that was what I needed at that moment. By the way, folks, this doesn't happen every day. It's what I needed at that moment to propel me to do what we do here every day. Excellent. Thank you for sharing that story with myself and the audience.

I agree with everything that you've been saying. I mean, I've been studying this, not to the degree that you have, but I've interviewed Gary Wayne. I've interviewed you. I've interviewed a number of individuals. I just had Tim Chafee on as well talking about this. and I've always believed that the demons are the disembodied souls of the Nephilim. I like the book of Enoch personally.

It's to Christians who have an issue with it, okay, fine, I understand where you're coming from. It's not canonized. Why did Peter reference it? Why is it quoted word for word in the book of Jude? Great questions to have. And then when I'm looking at what the government is telling us, and it's pretty wild, L.A. You know, for a long time, it was put on your tinfoil hat, if you believe, in aliens. That was a weather balloon.

Come on now. Yeah, you've got the tinfoil hat right there. You're ready to go. I'm ready to go. All of a sudden, just recently, all of a sudden, this has been declassified, and the government's telling that there are aliens. Now, as I look at it, and I want to get your take on this, when I look at it, it's, yes, I think technology, that man has technology, governments have technology that we're not privy to. And so some of it could be that. I'm always very curious about Project Blue Bean.

But I think generally, I'm with you on this. There are angels and fallen angels that are active that we get glimpses of, and we're all kind of pondering, scratching our head. What was that? Well, I mean, there is. And look, and Day of Disclosure, which is a film by Dan Farah. If you haven't seen it, it's a must see. And that led to our two-day virtual conference. where we had 10 speakers virtually.

He also showed two films on the whole subject, basically counteracting Dan Farah's film. And he did a great job. I'm not trying to disparage Farah in any ways. Great filmmaker, bully for him. But what he's promulgating is that we're not alone in the universe. And the opening salvo of that film, the opening of that film,

he has scientists, physicists, congressman, congresswoman, Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, and others looking right. right at the camera, and I love them. It's great filmmaking. Very saccata-like, it goes from one person to another. We're not alone in the universe.

We are not the only species in the universe. We are not alone in the universe. I have seen with my own eyes and UFOs and the pilots who were in those UFOs. So it's very sacado-like, and it goes like this. And they talk about Christopher Mellon, former CIA guy, says that they have free energy. It's going to be a wonderful

boon to society. Louis Alizando says this could change the trajectory of an entire species. So they're rolling it out. And when I saw that film, we saw it when it was released, we paid the money and watched it. And this is what this is homework. People, you know, that's why we have 10 films on UFOs. You can do your homework because, you know, closing kinds of first, second, third kind, abductions, crop circles. I mean, it's all there. Calumetalations, two films on Roswell for crying out about. Finally, what is the truth? We're the only Christian ministry. That's 10 films that cover all aspects of it, all aspects of it. But I digress as usual.

So what we need to understand here is that led to our virtual conference, which you can watch by going to L.A.Marzoli.com. 10 different speakers weigh in on the subject from a Christian viewpoint. That was we pushed back. And when Steven Spielberg's vote comes out, and I've done a scene-by-scene analysis

of the latest trailer, trailer number three, and what we're looking at. And by the way, in trailer number three, talk about Roswell, which is unbelievable, absolutely unbelievable. So this thing is being rolled out. This is the coming great deception. This changes everything in a moment of time and a twinkling of an eye. Again, we know from Paul, I got this for my friend, Mama Gonzalez, you know, the first Thessalonians chapter, God says them strong illusion because they did not believe a lie. Okay, will we get that? From that, I coined the term the coming great deception. The springboard

for that is first Thessalonians, because they did not believe the truth, God said the strong delusion, the falling away. Is it a rapture of a church? Is it an apostasia? And Christians can argue about that. But what Christians can't argue about is First Timothy chapter four. Thank you, Mando Gonzalez. And it says this, Paul is speaking to Timothy. The spirit expressly states that in the latter days, some will depart from the faith. Here's the punchline. Here's the kicker, giving heed to seducing spirits of a doctrine of demons. It's exactly where we are. He writes this 2,000 years ago.

He's being transported through time physically, visually. We don't know. Paul doesn't tell us. But the spirit is telling him what's going to happen. Is it voice the skull? We don't know. We don't know how he receives the information. He doesn't tell us that.

But he does say this. The spirit, the spirit of a living God, the Holy Spirit, the third part of the Trinity, which, you know, fully God, fully man, they're all connected. That's a mystery in itself. The spirit of a living God, especially states that of the latter days, some will depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits of the darkness of demons. That's exactly where we are.

I mean, there's a little path that, you know, I read as channeled information, and it explains the way the rapture of a church. There is a potential for many people to leave the planet in an afternoon. The people who leave the planet in an afternoon do not fit here any longer, and they are stopping the harmony of the earth. That explains the way the rapture of a church. What do you mean is it's a potential for many people to leave the planet? Because that's how the rapture of a church is going to be explained. And I think it's after a nuclear event.

And I wrote about this in the rung of disclosure. The book only goes up to rung 17 and 18. We're up to rung number 28. And rungsupdisclosure.com is an interactive website. Every time there's a new run up the ladder, like David Grush stating, which is actually run number 16, I think, in the book, David Grush, in front of Congress, under oath, Nancy Mace asked him, do we have crasscraft? He says, yes, I've already talked about this in my news station interview. Well, Nancy Mace follows up. Well, do we have bodies from these crass craft craft? And Grush looks right up at her, yes, we have biologics. He's kind of kind of cagey there. Then she goes, well, are they human or not human biologics? Under oath, in Congress, and he looks right up at her as non-human biologics. You know, blew my mind completely away. So it's no longer of a stuff of, you know, Art Bell and George Norrie. And I love George Norrie. I'll be on next Thursday night on coast to coast. I'm a regular there. At least two or three times

a year I'm on that show. And because, you know, I've been doing this for like 30 years, warning the church, warning the people like George, that these are not friendly aliens from some faraway star system. These are the fallen angels. And they are masters of deception. title of Jacques Valet's book, Messengers of Deception. There is a breeding program which hails back to the Genesis 6 narrative, which hails back to Daniel 243. And this is why Genesis 315 is so important, because if we don't understand the proper exegesis of it,

when we get to Daniel 243 and we read that their seed will mingle with the seed of men, but they will not cleave to them, who are we talking about? Who are these mysterious they people? Genesis 315 tells exactly who it is, fallen angels, mixing the seed. Why would Jesus warn us, it'd be like the days of Noah when he returns? He's got the entire Old Testament that's an arc to go to, it goes right to the days of Noah. Yeah, he could have picked any destructive event. There are numerous destructive events in the Old Testament. He could have pointed to any of them, but he, I mean, he could have pointed to Sodom and Gamora.

No, he points directly to Noah, and I think that's a big clue for us. Very telling, very simply. Now, I want to return back to the question I asked you in the beginning, about these pastors. Because the hair in the back of my neck goes up a little bit. When I see all these pastors, some of them I will fully admit, I don't really trust. And I see them all talking about this alien encounter coming upon us, that they're getting ready for us. So I want you to get your take on that. But I also, I want to couple it with this question. Do you believe that the Antichrist, when he emerges on scene, could be an alien? He won't be an alien, but he'll boast an alien

connection. He will be a modern day Nephilim. He will literally be the seat of the dragon. Think about this. Rosemary's baby, the film, and I saw that when it came. I was not a Christian. I saw the movie. I was very troubled by the movie and I didn't know why I was troubled. And then again, why make a movie like this guys? Because they always signal. They always tell you exactly what's going on. And he will be, he will be, literally the seed of the dragon, the seat of a serpent, that's who he will be. He will be a hybrid being. He will be a modern day Nephilim, he will have all sorts of power. Is he walking on the planet now? I would say yes. That's conjecture. I don't know. But I would say with everything that we're seeing, the punchless that Jesus gives us, wars and rumors of wars, fam, it's, pestilence, earthquakes, and diverse places.

Troublesome times, Matthew 24, Luke 21 Mark 13. Yeah, we're in that window of time where this is coming down like crazy. And now the whole UFO thing, well, we're not alone in the universe. Excuse me. You don't know that. That's conjecture on your part. You know, Enrico, Fermi, the physicist, this is credited to him at lunchtime. You know, you're talking about life in the universe and, you know, and Rico Fermi just basically said, okay, if there's life elsewhere, where is everybody? And he's right. You know, if we're surrounded by all these galaxies and everybody's inhabited and there's life all over the planet,

where the heck is everybody? And we don't know. And there's this cat and mouse game with these guys. We see them. Now we don't. We see them. Now we don't. We see them.

Now we don't. And in the film, Day of Disclosure, they talked about deliberate crashes. We went to the Roswell Debris Field and we pulled out a piece of the metal. Yeah, it was buried about eight inches below the surface. We are the only film company in history ever to show on film, according to Chuck Zikowsky, who was there with a medal of tech two. Frank Kimber, thanks, Frank. We're the only film company ever to pull out a piece of metal.

We've looked at it under a scanning electron microscope. It's an aluminum alloy, but it doesn't fit any known aluminum alloys. It's right in between these two. And we have three pieces of metal tested in three different labs. They all have the same thing. Well, we don't know what it is. It's right between these two known aluminum malloys, but we don't know what it is. So more testing needs to be done.

But isn't that interesting? Not a weather balloon, not a weather balloon by any means. And the Spielberg's film, he's going to show that. He's going to drill right down to it. Interesting. Have you ever seen the show Childhoods End? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I feel like that's what's about to come upon us.

I think they probably picked the greatest, I guess, movie or theater venue that they could pick to show us what that great deception could look like. Look, it's coming down, and we can reveal all this stuff as much as we want. And I wrote about this in the book, Runs of Disclosure, once again, I'mazuli.com, or it's available on Amazon, too, But the bottom line is this. There's going to be a nuclear event. This is conjecture on my part. I'm out of profit. This is conjecture.

There's going to be a nuclear event that happens somewhere on the planet, which creates the greatest climate of fear that humanity has ever experienced collectively. That's when they show up. They will tell us, we created all life on this planet, we genetically manipulated early man. We started the world's religions and civilizations. Now, at this critical juncture, we are back to usher mankind into a golden age. And that's a great pause, L.A.,

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L.A. that you were talking about how they use film to show us their plans, because they have that satanic code about them. But Prometheus was exactly that. Exactly what you were talking about as we hit the break. Yeah. And, you know, I went and saw that movie because I have to do that. I mean, it's part of what I do to see what the other side of the aisle is promulgating. And, I mean, there it is. It showed in the very beginning of the film, you know, the entity dissolves in the water and all that DNA creates life on this planet. You know, this is what the whole Darwinian theory is based on.

When Ben Stein and his classic movie expelled, if you haven't seen that, it's a must watch, he sits down with Richard Dawkins. Well, Dawkins is one of the premier evolutionists of a 21st century. And Stein goes, okay, where do this come from? Where do the first self-replicating molecule come from? And Dawkins has no answer. I told you, nobody knows. And he's kind of upset by that because it's a gotcha question.

And okay, so nobody knows. Well, then Stein, in a very gracious way, in my opinion, throws him an intellectual life level. How do you think it might have happened? And Dawkins immediately, well, I suppose it could have happened like this. And this is circular reasoning. He talks about, you know, somewhere in the universe, a race of entities. by some Darwinian process, you know, achieved a very high level of civilization and seated us here. That's called panspermia. And that is what we are looking at. That is the

great lie, because Darwinism is a mindless, the whole theory of evolution is utterly mindless. We know, like for instance, a friend of mine, one of the guys over at Charisma Media, John Manorazzo, his wife is pregnant. And they just did their first ultrasound, right? So they see the baby and the heart's beating. Boom, boom, boom. Just to Explain that to me. Just explain how that works. Just explain how a mindless thing like evolution creates a heart. Well, in order to make this blood, wait a minute, what's blood? I don't know. I'm just evolution. I'm just mindless and can't really think about anything. And this is just evolving by itself. But we're going to need something to pump the blood through the circulatory. Oh, wait, circulatory system, what's that? I have no idea. But we're still going to need this pump. Where the heck is the heart come from? Are you kidding me? Are you flipping? kidding me. Stop lying to yourself and be intellectually honest. You

don't know. Nobody knows how the heart works. Nobody. We just knows it works. Guess what? There's a God. Guess what? He spoke everything into existence. Guess what? He's coming back. That might sell... Ellie, you're such a religious fanatic. No, I'm not religious at all. I just

know who my creator is. And I believe in the beginning was the word, the word was with God, and the word was God in the beginning. All things were made by him or without it. It was not anything made that was made. story. Darwinism is a complete and utter, broke fallacy of a paradigm. You can believe that all you want. But then when we show you something like this, it blows your paradigm right out of the water, shroud of Torin. So how is this done? And this is what people saw for thousands

of years in Torin, Italy. Well, there's it looks like an image of a man. 1890. We have a whole film on this, by the way. 1898, Sukundapia, takes the first picture of the shroud. And this is what he sees. Now, you tell me, you tell me how you create this image on the shroud. You just tell me that. It looks like this. But, which wasn't invented

2,000 years ago, and if it's a medieval forgery, right? So it still wasn't invented. So let me get this. This medieval forgery knew about. He had a time travel device, and he could go into the future, he knew that someday they would create photography. And so he cryptically

put this image. in the shroud. No, this is God's calling card. It's never been duplicated. And there's the man on the shroud. Look at the scourging. It's incredibly brutal. Look where the nails come out, the back of the wrist. Right? So it's,

just look at this. And look at the face. Look at the face. That's him. That is absolutely him. Amen. Yeah. And that's what I have a whole film on this. We call it we call it Holy Shrout, Holy Fire. So, I mean, Darwinism is what a broke, what a broke paradigm.

Well, it takes more faith to believe in evolution than it does for us to believe in Christianity and what God actually said. And the question, as you alluded to, is the problem with panspermia is they never answer, where did they come from? And, well, some other higher entity created them. Well, where did they come from? Where did they come from? We don't know. It's crazy. I'm so glad that you brought up the shrouded term because what?

But remember the Christians, we're the ignoramus. You know, we're the uneducated ignoramus who don't know anything about science. You can't, you don't know how DNA works. Nobody knows where that comes from. That genetic code is so, so explicit, so incredible. And it just didn't come out of some primordial slime someplace. There's a creator, okay? And we know that Jesus spoke everything into existence.

So believe what you want to believe. Yeah, no, absolutely. Yeah, so I was saying I'm glad you brought up, you know, the history of the shrouded Terran, but I wanted to ask you about something else that you've done, actually two movies on. And this is the miracle, yet you're holding it up already, Fatima. Now, I'm not trying to offend Catholics. I'm not one of these Christians who thinks Catholics are all going to hell.

I've always said that on this show. I know a lot of great Catholics that love Jesus. But this miracle may not be exactly what they said it was, right, sir? Yeah, absolutely. I've been a student of Fatima for decades, and we went to Fatima Portugal at the 100th year anniversary in 2017. And we were there. We had, and you know, the Lord just opened up the door. We were there with our guide, Francisco Guerrera, and Francisco is head of exo-politics in Portugal. Okay. So he was in contact with everybody like Joaquin Fernandez, who wrote three books with the late. Pina di Armada. We had a list of people all who has studied this phenomena. And so for people who don't understand it, it's 1917, World War I is raging, the Bolshevik revolution has happened. There are really no airplanes in Portugal. There might be one down in Lisbon, but we don't even know that. And, you know, the war is raging. It's a very tenuous, unprecedented time.

So these groups, and this has never talked about in the official narrative. I mean, I've got coat of with people that, you know, priests and other stuff, on Fatima. And I say, well, are you aware that a group of psychics got together in 1917 and through the technique of automatic writing? And I've seen the actual, the paper with the automatic writing, it's backwards. You can only see it holding up to a mirror. And it's signed Stella Matutina. And that message says there's going to be something wondrous happening on May 13th, 1917. Something wondrous will happen to the people. It's signed Stella Matutina the right way. And that message says, there's going to be something Of course, that's the bright morning star.

I never named for the dragon, i.e. Satan. So May 13th happens, and these three shepherds are out tending the sheep. Lucia, who is 10. Francisco is nine, and Yacinza is seven. These are illiterate, very small kids, very illiterate. Very illiterate. They can't read her right. And they see this apparition.

It's a lady. And she's dressed in a skirt which falls right below the knees. Well, everyone in 1917, they had skirts that came all the way down to the tops of their shoes, or even further. I mean, they were dresses that went all the way down. Women didn't appear like this. Prostitutes maybe, sort of think that this entity is Mary the Bible, wearing a short skirt like this. Of course, you never hear anything about that.

All that's pushed down. Then they ask her, well, where do you come from? She never says heaven, she says, from the sky. How do we know this? Because the handwritten testimonies are all done by the parish priest, Father Fierra. So when the girls, Lucia and Francisco, what were the children, I should say, Lucy, Francisco and Yucin, are telling the parish priest, Father Fierre, where did this entity say she was from? From the sky, never from heaven. How did the entity commute with you, communicate with you? Telepathically, angels and Mary do not need voice to skull. They can speak and you. You can hear them, right?

That's how just read your Bible. That's the way it works. And so that's in May. So you have June, July, August, the kids are in jail because this whole thing is blown up. People don't like it. September, the apparition appears again. People are seeing, get this, people are seeing flying hats in the sky, weird anomalous weather patterns. And so the magistrate and the priest and all these other people, look,

we need a sign if this is really from the Virgin Mary, we need a sign. And so the kids on September 13th go back and ask the entity for a sign. She says there'll be a sign on October 13th following month. So a month passes and she says 12 noon. But 12 noon happens and nothing happens. So now it's 1 o'clock. So the entity is late. Just saying, right? It's been raining all morning. there is a sea of umbrellas that you can see here. I think it's a lot of glare there. I'm trying to get it so you can see it. There's a sea of umbrellas.

There is the King's photographer, Joshua Benolio. Remember, Portugal was a monarchy. In 1917, there was a, they overthrew the monarchy. It became a republic. So the King's photographer, Joshua Benolio, was out there with the old box cameras, right, the glass plates. He takes 12 photographs of the event. And there was a professor of semiotics.

His name is Jose Machado, who had access to all 12 glass plates. And I've interviewed him. He's in our film, Strange Phenomena. And he let us use, this is the original still photographer, still photographed from October 13th, 1917, taken by Joshua Benolio. Where do you see here? Yeah. What do you see there?

I see a UFO. That's exactly what it is. And it's in, we held Jose's feet to the fire. Could this be a chemical burn? Isn't a scratch? Jose says, no. Whatever this is, whatever this, this like object is, it's in the sky. It's in the photograph.

So we published that. It's in our film, and people don't like to hear that because they want to believe it's mirroring the Bible. And that's why in the film itself, we open the film, we're not going to disparate. People can believe what they want to believe. Millions of people come to Fatima every year. Millions of people circled the Kaaba Stone and Mecca. Millions of Buddhists and Hindus, you know, pray to their gods. Believe what you want to believe.

But we also have a right to push back and dig into whatever happened in 1917. And that's what we did. and that's why we published a photograph. And then we've got the witnesses who look up and say this, I looked up and saw a dull silver disc. Well, what does that sound like to you? And in 1917, there's no UFO, UAP flying saucer in the lexicon. That doesn't come to mid-20th century.

So this was a UFO event. It's big business in Fatima, big business. That sanctuary can hold upwards of a million people. I mean, it's absolutely unbelievable. And we show all this. We show exactly what it looks like. And we interviewed what we believe are some of the world's experts that have actually done the homework and gone back and looked at the handwritten diary, or not diary, the handwritten reporting from Father Friera. So he's interviewing the witnesses. He's interviewing the children and writing it all down. It's a completely different narrative than what we see. It was, in my opinion, a UFO event. And that's why we call the film. a harbinger of deception. So I just, I know we're getting close to the end. I mean, I've been doing this for like over 30 years.

I've got books. We've got films. We have 34 films, 15 books. And it's all, you know, we've got the 10-box DVD set here. 10 films on the UFOs. Close encounters with the first, second, third, fourth, fifth kind, abductions, catam mutilations, crop circles, two films on Roswell. Finally, what is the truth?

We sit down with guys like George Noree. The late Nick Pope is in the film. Rando Gonzalez, Gary Steerman, and others, weighing in on... And by the way, this is the Comberga's UFO right there. See that? Yep. That's the best UFO footage, in my opinion, that you'll ever see. And you can see the entities right inside them.

Those are the two grays. Wow. There it is. The Comberga as UFO. Absolutely incredible. What I want to do is as we come to a close on this show, and I will plug the website as well, but the last time I had the opportunity to interview you, we were talking about Christians who have had UFO or alien

encounters. And you gave some advice that I just want to, I want to echo again, because I don't want people to live in a spirit of fear. There's a great possibility. In fact, I think it's around the corner that we do have aliens. The whole world, their eyes are open to the fact that there are aliens out there. But you've interviewed so many Christians who have had alien encounters, and they've been able to rebuke it in Jesus' name, and they've been safe. Will you tell that story to the audience? Well, Karen Wilkinson, we published her book, Stolen Seed Evil Harvest, and she was a lifelong abductee.

She was taken from five years old, and she was impregnated by them three times. Daniel 243, their seedling. They're going to meet him and be like the days of Noah. They're walking amongst us, the book by Dr. David Jacobs. making the stuff up and it's not look some of this we've got an hour and you know we've had 45 minutes or whatever this is all the deep end of the pool it's the deep end of the pool it's the breeding program it's the seed war and we see it over and over again so i'm about to interview a woman and about it's 10 o'clock here in two hours i will interview her she's a she's a

videographer she's an artist she sent me a picture she was taken she was she was she was a christian from a time she was a young girl. She was taken by them against her will. And, you know, these these abductions happened for a period of time, and then she finally broke them off. So in most cases, if a person cries out to Jesus, it will stop the abduction. But now we, and this is why it's, the research is ongoing. This is new information that just came to me. And I'll be interviewing this woman in about two hours. Very unsettling. She's been a Christian since she was a little girl, but she was taken. So it's not just this, you know, magic formula. Like for instance, when we, when the elders lay hands on people that are sick, do they recover? Not in all cases. Why is that?

So it's, you know, we need to take the whole council of God, hold on to our dogma lightly, and be flexible, be flexible, not in the things that matter like my salvation comes from Jesus, and the story. I mean, if a fallen angel shows up, you know, as an angel of light and tells me, Oh, I'm a source of your salvation. Excuse me, get behind me. I know. I love that. Yeah, some of the other things, you know, we're just not sure, and we have to hold on to them loosely.

Sure. I do appreciate you sharing that with the audience. And just once again, ladies and gentlemen, if you're not right with God right now, like it is the time to be right with God. And as L.A. just said, there will be entities. There will be fallen angels that come as an angel of light. that will say things that sound realistic. And how do you not believe your eyes?

Like, aliens are upon us. You know, we're not alone in this world, and they're saying they created us. Remember, ladies and gentlemen, hold firm to the Bible. L-A. I'm going to plug the website, L-A.Marsuli. And for any of you who are having trouble with Italian names, M-A-R-Z-U-L-L-I, right there. But L-A-Mar-Zuli.com. L-A, tell us, last words here, plug the website. Anything else you want to convey to the audience?

Well, I think this thing is coming down. And again, you know, 1 Timothy chapter 4 of the spirit expressly states the latter days, some will depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits of the doctrines of demons. It's exactly where we are. It's exactly where we are. We need to understand that this is not demonic delusion. It is nuts and bolts hardware. There's a physicality to it all day long.

L.A.Marjuli.com. Thanks for watching. I do a show every single day on YouTube, and we're all over this like White on Rice. Thanks for having me on. appreciate it. Absolutely. It's been an incredible pleasure to have you on. I always will have you back. I love the conversation. But I'm going to go, yeah, I'm going to go ahead and close us out. If you hold on one more minute post-production to say our goodbyes, I'd appreciate it. But again, thank you for your work. Thank you for your time. Thank you. God bless.

God bless you too, sir. All right, ladies and gentlemen, there you go, L.A. Marzuli. I know some people, this might, as L.A. said, this is the deep end. Like, you literally can't embalt into the deep end, but this is a conversation that we need to be having that we can't be fearful of and then we can't dismiss automatically just because it goes against our preconceived norms ladies and gentlemen aliens are coming and we got to be ready church and state is brought to you in part by colonial life spoken independent agents finders insurance and mark three seven dot com i'm caleb collier i was born for a storm welcome to the fire this is caleb callier with church and state dot media ladies gentlemen if you're not sleeping on my pillow do you even patriot i got to tell you

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