The Prepper Broadcasting Network - FOIL FRIDAY: COVIDCast - May 2020 WE DIDNT PLEAD THE 5th!

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Self-r-r-Lines, the Pepper Broadcasting Network. We have to hit the reset button and create a true culture of preparedness, starting at a very young age and filtering all the way up. Well, PBN family, how are we this evening? James Walton here. Big cast of characters tonight, special interview tonight. I don't know about you, but things... The news doesn't seem to be hitting as hard as it has. been things seem to be uh well i guess the big news is that the white house has been rocked with infections in and around the area uh the nih h head came out today and said that we you know

maybe going to need maybe need a handful of vaccinations to deal with the old covid 19 not just one not just one stick for the for the vaccine uh you know i don't know it maybe it's just me but But I don't know. I'm getting tired of looking at the ticker tape about this thing, to be quite honest with you. I'm getting tired of looking at statistics and how many new dailies and how many deaths. And, I mean, yeah, it's kind of wearing on me. I think we might have to fire the MC of the COVID cast because we've got to get some new blood in here to get everybody riled up. We've got Jordan with us of a family of family.

fair Saturday night host. Tonight we have Dave Jones. Tonight we have Dave Jones, the NBC guy as per usual. We're lucky enough to have Stephen Menking of On The Objective.org with us again. We got a couple great questions from Dave Jones that he's going to speak to right off the bat. And we have a great group. So I'm just going to give you one caveat on this interview.

We have a great group. We haven't all got together, particularly with Jordan in a while and chatted. So we're going to jump right in with Steve. We're going to go into Dave and his report. Then we'll start talking to Jordan. And we're going to run the interview at some point. I just want you to know it may be. It's going to be the last thing we do.

So if we get rolling and we're having good conversation, you're going to have to wait until the end of the show to hear from Tim McWelch. That could be like two. hours from now. All depends, you know, but you guys got fast forward and rewind if you want to hear this thing after, or if you're listening to it in a, you know, not live sense, then you can just fast forward to that at the end of the show. But that's about it, folks. I'm not going to do any shameless plugging up front. You guys know all the channels and the routes and the routines. So without further ado, let's get Stephen Menking on here. Stephen, how are you this evening, sir?

I'm doing just fine here, James. It's a pleasure to be back with everyone at PBN. And if you don't mind, I think it's good to jump into Dave's two questions about the stock market and potential inflation to get us started. What do you think? I love it. I love it. Let's do it. All right.

So the basic overview is that the only V-shaped recovery that is visible at this moment is in the stock market. and particularly in the technology sector that was leading this market rally prior to the pandemic. And it's an interesting situation because many of these online tech businesses at scale in winner take-all environments are eating all of the smaller players. and we have a perplexing situation because on one hand, people are talking about extended secular declines in the economy, but that really hasn't been the case in terms of it being directly reflected in equity indexes. And what I would point out is that the primary mechanism for this is, of course, the idea that prices go up when there are more buyers than,

sellers and prices go down when they're more sellers than buyers. It's simplistic, but it helps us understand what's going on at a point where bailouts have been levied at major American industries and liquidity has been guaranteed. One of the first places that that liquidity goes is into these types of assets. And stocks have been in this kind of holding pattern a little bit. It just has resumed an up trend, and that doesn't mean that it's going to fall off a cliff anytime soon, but you could imagine the catalyst that would create that. It would be a return to the max fear dynamic, typically, you know, because of some other kind of catalyst, it would require another news item at this standpoint to shake people again.

or if the extent of the fiscal and monetary stimulus doesn't match up with people's expectations. And here, of course, now it's a garden variety thing that every couple of weeks, a couple trillion dollars is put on the table. And it begins to get into a question that I've seen several people ask, and that is, hey, if the government can just print trillions of dollars and not be worried about the impact, then why are we even paying? taxes at all. Like, why do they need the thousands of dollars that a middle class family would pay into the system if they could just print that without so much as a second thought? If this ammunition was all there, then, you know, why couldn't we, why couldn't we push a little bit more on the printing press and stimulate the economy by leaving people more of their money? And it's a question that gets to the heart of economic policy, but it gets into the second question about inflation.

We certainly haven't seen the kind of runaway inflation that many have predicted. And part of that is because, you know, we can't exclusively base our analysis on historical precedent. Yes, fiat currencies end up printing themselves into oblivion. Yes, the common lifespan of a fiat currency is a handful of decades. And yes, we are sort of past that mark. But each situation has its own unique components. And starting after the financial crisis, as quantitative easing really began to expand and dominate the monetary policy landscape, we saw money velocity go down.

It just wasn't getting put to work in the same way. And it's worth noting that each individual person, each individual household is going to experience inflation differently because inflation is quoted according to a CPI basket of goods that is supposed to represent some, you know, average or representative families spending on different goods and services. But presumably any one of us listening is going to have a different outlay in terms of spend than this quote unquote typical family. And so we've seen various areas, education and health care, let's say over the past couple decades, absolutely skyrocket in terms of price and other things in terms of computing power and the

technology-driven items, those decrease as Moore's law continues to press on unabated. And this tells you that there isn't something consistent and just overall happening at every level of the economy. It is more towards the incentive structure and the regulation, the way that different sectors are governed and interacted with at a governmental level that is actually going to determine their price dynamics. So we, of course, haven't yet seen the wholesale inflation that many have called for. And the difficulty is that even though we understand that there is an inevitability to the reduction in purchasing power that reaches a tipping point, that tipping point is psychological. And when you're looking at the billions and billions of dollars that is looking

for a home, like, where is this capital going to go? Any other investment in the sovereign bond market other than the U.S. is taking on additional risk in terms of getting the yield. And so what are people going to do? Are they going to buy Japanese bonds? Are they going to buy Chinese bonds? where is that money going to find a home? And because of the ubiquity of the dollar, it still retains its world reserve currency status, even in a world that is slightly de-dollarizing, we certainly haven't reached that tipping point just yet. However, it is not necessarily the case that that can protect us forever. In fact, mathematically, it just can't be the case. The world does change, but in terms of the current dynamics, it hasn't changed yet. And it's very much,

a bit by bit, bit by bit slowly but surely, and then suddenly all at once, that kind of inflection point, tipping point dynamic, where all of a sudden the psychology changes, and you go from a before to an after picture, and everything becomes different. And that's extremely challenging because for people who understand the idea of the need for us to be responsible in terms of monetary policy and who really don't see a way out of this, apart from aggressive levels of growth, you end up in a situation where people, unfortunately, will be over-predictive. And, you know, for every call for inflation, by the time you get one right, you've made a dozen

wrong. And so it's the timing that really is tricky, but it's important for us to make that fundamental case, but also to be aware that the system, as it's constructed, depending on the incentives, you know, it's not necessarily going to obey economic rules of nature and gravity quite the same way that we might like. Was there a clarifying question that I could help answer? Someone just open up their mic. I will proceed accordingly.

Please feel free to interrupt here. But speaking of the idea of the psychological changes, it's very important to understand that market behavior and economics is a tenter. to predict and understand how human beings make decisions and not just at an individual level, at a collective level. And that's extremely difficult. So what can we expect? Well, more of the same, weirdly enough.

The psychological adjustment to the new status quo of trillions of dollars of stimulus has taken place. And we will see how all of that plays out. But it really is difficult in terms of knowing when the ultimate cracks will show. We know that the foundation is continuing to erode because we don't see the conditions necessary in order to reverse that process. But as it pertains specifically on the COVID side, we know more and more that the way that the fatalities are being counted isn't going to be perfectly represented.

And of course, it's difficult, if not impossible, to get fully accurate data in something as complex as this. But what we're seeing is that there are the official guidelines have essentially anyone who has tested positive, regardless of whether that is the proximate cause of death or not, is counted in these statistics. And so I don't, I haven't checked to see if the discrepancy that was pointed out last week has been, has been resolved. presumably it's a counting methodology thing, but regardless, the psychology is not max fear the way it was at the end of March. And I think there's an interesting sort of approach here that we can think about as it pertains to be extremely inflammatory and content. That is that if we end up getting proper evidence about the efficacy of various treatment regimens, particularly at early enough

stages in the cycle, then if you are a, if you're a person who doesn't have other risk factors, then, you know, I would say that, and again, this depends on the situation, I would have a hunch that I would prefer, just speaking for myself, this is clearly not a medical opinion, but if I am a healthy young adult who doesn't have any other major risk factors and there's an efficacious treatment regimen that could, that is demonstrably effective in the early stages of something like this, then I would feel more comfortable knowing that that's out there than then taking a vaccine that even if you have rushed trials is, is difficult to prove in terms of avoiding second order effects. So I think there's a difference there. And of course, people's concern would be that

a particular medical course of action would be mandated. And that's, that's a different discussion of the geopolitical and the tyrannical variety. But we're definitely in, as we mentioned before, a different stage of the game. And, you know, James, if you're, if you're tired of watching the cry on on this stuff, I imagine that most other people are as well. And that shouldn't be too much of a surprise. I think that as we do the stage rollout of people continuing to have other social distancing guidelines, then, you know, we'll see it is hopefully. going to be an evidence-based response in terms of the policy as opposed to a political one, but there comes a point where the incentives are such that the momentum towards opening

is going to continue. And how that plays out, of course, remains to be seen. But from a psychological perspective, I think a lot of the differential in the news cycle is because of the uptick in the Obamagate scenario in terms of the transcripts being released of the Russian investigation, which demonstrates that key Obama officials, in fact, no one had any direct evidence of collusion despite direct and demonstrable claims to the contrary. So it's a tricky scenario, a tricky time. People are definitely on edge, and we will see how things develop as we get closer and closer to the summer. But if we don't get, if we don't get back to some. some more semblance of normalcy by Memorial Day, I think people's patience may run out.

But it's very clear to see the officials who are in charge, such as the mayor of Chicago and the governor of Michigan and the folks out in California, the overreach is now abundantly clear. And so hopefully we can get a situation where people are paying attention to this more and more. and it results in more appropriate action at the ballot box to change the regime here to really prioritize the installment of public officials who understand and prioritize the Constitution. Maybe that's wishful thinking on my part, but I think more people than ever are more aware of the situation and the stakes that we're playing for because we have visual examples. we can see what happens.

We don't just have to believe a dire warning that someone raises on YouTube and the Internet. So that's my take. Inflation may take longer than we might expect to play out, but when it happens, it happens suddenly. And that's why you have to take concentrated steps to prepare in advance. But you also don't want to be, you know, among the batch of people who are sort of constantly decrying the state of affairs and calling for, economic doomsday this week or the next because even if you're eventually right and you will be, you're going to be wrong so many times that the influence of your perspective and your opinions is going to be diminished. So we have to think very carefully not just about what is going to happen,

but when it might happen and how best to effectuate our message. This doesn't mean that we should modulate it to avoid speaking the truth or to equivocate about the possibilities, but it It just means we should be more reasoned and articulate about the various scenarios that could develop so that we don't torpedo our own credibility in an effort to get people to pay attention to things because that has too often been an approach. It's been a scare tactic where in order to motivate either the purchase of particular goods that are being sold or a change in the course of action, which even might be of benefit long term to people, the approach and the tactic has been to escalate the scenario and to use fear as a

motivating factor when instead we should be focused more on effective education. And it's difficult, of course, because the channels that produce and that disseminate information are programmed, quite literally, to propagate that kind of messaging, in part because it is designed to facilitate attention because of the nature of human emotions and our current information dissemination platforms are structured along the lines where they are rewarded for attention. So that system isn't going to change anytime soon, even if we do potentially have different kinds of technologies that could be developed to change that model. So it's a confusing and a complex scenario, but hopefully the stakes are becoming clearer and clear to people and the choices of how,

we want to construct and govern our society or becoming clear, there is still, in my view, a non-zero probability that this entire scenario could tilt us more towards freedom than towards tyranny, even though tyranny is definitely making a strong play here, because that's all tyranny does. It just pushes and pushes and oppresses and oppresses and tries to grab power wherever possible. So given that there's a non-zero chance of actually stepping into a future that focuses on constitutional freedoms and proper information and community response and preparation, that's a future that is absolutely worth fighting for. And it's worth us being measured and appropriate in our responses so that we can maintain credibility as voices to stand up against

the sort of default criticism of conspiracy and, you know, alternative viewpoints and that kind of overarching attempt to discredit that is going to come naturally from establishment media sources. So we have to be extremely responsible in the here and now with everything that we're doing with our research, with what we're talking about. And if we do so, then the people themselves will see which approach is better, which approach is driven on truth and an inspiring view of the world that we can build, the world that we can help build for our children and for our country. This is a critical moment, as we've often said, and I'm grateful to be here with this group of incredibly astute and passionate hosts and presenters on such an important occasion

speaking to people at this pivotal time. So the stakes are extremely high. Pay attention. You are too generous. It's worth it. Lots of people are doing nothing or simply contributing to the the various kinds of PR negative feedback loops that we see where, you know, you get a headline from someone and then you automatically take it in as dogma and then present it as a fact without even knowing where you yourself got that opinion. So, you know, I take a lot of pride in knowing that this group is being responsible about what we're doing because of the genuine understanding of the stakes involved here. So I thank you for that, Dave,

but it's a generosity that is well earned in my view. So, Stephen, one of the things that kind of is always kicking around in my head, and you're in a part of the country that's pretty set apart from most of us, just from the hosts of the I Am Liberty, I mean, of the Prepper Broadcasting Network, rather, you're in a part of the country that not a lot of us get into on a regular basis. and I wanted to get your take, I mean, if I could squeeze the grape a little more after all that. I also wanted to kind of get your personal take on the atmosphere in the further northeast.

I don't know if you're getting out and having interaction or not, but if you are, I'd love to get it. This is one of my favorite things to ask people right now is what are people like in your area? So there's a mix of different scenarios. I'm here in Connecticut, so there's a lot of people who have had their businesses disrupted either through furlough or through job loss or just through working remote. There is a great deal of pessimism in the New York side of things because people are essentially looking at a scenario where it's going to be, it's going to be the case that they are anticipating even when you reopen some very strict guidelines about how close people can be to one another in an office space. And essentially,

similar kinds of regulations that are applied to hospitals and other kind of sensitive facilities would be applied potentially to all office spaces. So I know people who are involved in the planning procedure for bringing an office back online. And these are the, the things that they are worried about, and they're worried about this because of the complexity that's involved. And given the high population density, particularly on public transit, and the ease for many white-collar businesses of working from home, people are now sort of questioning, like, what is the value proposition of being in New York, at least being in New York with as many people on the team as before? So that's one conversation. I know,

I know a couple different people who have moved out of New York City and, you know, hadn't planned to, but certainly will because of this, at least on a semi-permanent kind of basis. We'll see how everything shakes out. But there is a lot of pessimism here. And this is an area where if we take a big picture view and we say, hey, one of the 2030 agenda items was to urbanize in a dramatic fashion. And this change in psychology may push people in the opposite direction. interestingly enough. That doesn't necessarily mean that all of the rural areas of the country will now be the beneficiaries of a great deal of New Yorkers fleeing there, but it means a greater shift in terms of the suburbs and the exurbs and that sort of thing, particularly given the

different scenario. Now, here in Connecticut, there's definitely a different psychology, depending on how closely people are aligned politically to the agenda that are being, let's say, propagandized by mainstream media networks. It is very clear that for people who have been hard, hard, like, mainlined into CNN and MSNBC for this entire time, they are going to be the kinds of people who are extremely skeptical of any effort to open, and they are going to be very aggressive about making social media, comments here particularly on Facebook, given the age demographic, to say, you know,

nobody should be outside at all, how dare you, you're endangering my children, et cetera, et cetera. Very, very, very hard line in terms of being enthusiastic about draconian measures and criticizing any effort to, any effort to reopen as something that is, a rush or too hasty. But this is also a situation where this is coming from a demographic who is not in dire financial straits as a result of this. There are plenty of other people who are just frustrated about how long this has gone on in terms of the potential damage that is being done to small businesses. And it's a divide and it is definitely a divide that has some of its contours along political lines.

And that isn't terribly surprising given the importance of the information that is available because when you have a diet of propaganda, we shouldn't be surprised that your viewpoint will take on the positions that that propaganda is desiring. Like, propaganda is used for a reason. It's because it's an extremely effective tool in order to manage the emotions, the psychology, and all of those sorts of efforts. So people are definitely divided, but as time goes by and as, you know, some people are heavily propagandized and are not going to come out of that.

They're just going to follow the line that is put out there. But as time goes on, you'd imagine that that balance shifts towards the people who are desiring of a responsible kind of return to normalcy. Like around here, we're going into the stage where low density, low density things can begin to reopen, but with continued social distance and face covering measures involved. But for most people, there is a little bit of frustration and fatigue, but there isn't a great sense here of, okay, we need to, you know, we need to go to city hall to protest

these kind of, these kind of things because it hasn't reached, at least in this immediate area, the kind of things that we've seen that we've seen elsewhere. And there also isn't quite as much of that spirit inside of the citizenry and the electorate. This is a fairly old, sort of more old-line liberal kind of cohort in terms of the way that it is, it's laid out. And so I wouldn't expect to see any major rallies or protests in my vicinity anytime soon. But that's the report from the New York metro area on the Connecticut side. If you go different places in New England, you're going to get a completely different approach. because I imagine up in Vermont where there are practically no cases,

you know, people are more enthusiastic about getting things open because of the risk-reward trade-off. But so far it hasn't, we haven't seen the kind of crazy overreach that is elsewhere, but, you know, people could beg to differ because it's all relative on that kind of standpoint. But that's the 10-4 as I see it. I appreciate it, Stephen.

Thanks so much for joining us tonight, sir. Always a enlightening conversation here on the COVID cast, which you become a staple of here. So I think you've got a call tonight at this point, and we do appreciate you, as always. Well, again, my pleasure, and it's a great privilege to be here with all of you, and so I am appreciative and thankful for the continued invitations,

and I would urge everyone listening to, to step up because this is an important moment. I know I've been saying that every single week, but it's still true. It is still true that this is a time to look ahead to what the future could be, because just as tyranny will never let a good crisis go to waste, neither should the people who are intent on reestablishing and building a new vision of what proper freedom, constitutional freedom, like in a country where we can have a more informed citizenry, people who are more aware of the dangers of tyranny, people who are better equipped to be prepared for different outcomes so that tyranny is less of an enticing and an exciting option. And this is about changing hearts and

minds because that is the nature of the asymmetric battlefield. So please continue to be thoughtful and responsible and effective in your presentations. As I'm I know everyone else here will be. I have no doubt about that. So thanks again, everyone, for having me with you. I will see you on the next broadcast. Hey, Stephen. Yes, sir.

Yeah, I know you can't hear me because I was on mute, but I took, I kept track. And I have eight little tick marks here every time I said, amen to what? Well, I'll say amen to that. You can add an extra tick mark. Give it nine, one for myself. I amen myself, a little bit presumptuous, but. My pleasure. God bless you guys. Stephen Menking, folks, on theobjective.org, economic updates, reliance every Sunday.

Hopefully, when Stephen Menking comes on the microphone, you hear a familiar voice and not someone new because he's been putting out great content here at PBN for a long time now. So we've got a new, someone new has entered the field of battle at Sam B. Dave, I know you had a document you wanted to talk about, then I think we're going to turn this thing loose into a bar stool conversation because we got the perfect group for it. Absolutely. Hey, I just wanted to let the listeners know my two questions, and I learned after weeks, okay, that you've got to ask your questions up front

or Stephen goes. So I asked him before the show, I said, look, how come everything is so bad, the stock market keeps going up? Okay, that was my first question. And then my second question was, do you see any way out of this without massive inflation? And of course, he answered both of those in droves and then some. So I just wanted you to know what those questions were. Hey, and Georgia, who opened up, I think, almost two weeks ago, has had their lowest recorded increase since this thing happened. So they've been open, okay?

It's amazing what happens when you actually trust your citizenry. They do the right thing. And you have your lowest cases ever. another fact I like the sounds of it yeah when uh

Como was going over his things last week they found 66% the people were at home the cases the cases that were hospitalized reported it was 66% it was the largest by far

where they came from so it's funny that if you let people go and they go out and enjoy the sun, okay, and get out of the house. You have fewer cases. Hold on. I didn't understand that. Dave, 66% of the cases, what was it?

Yes, that they were trying to figure out where the cases were coming from. And 66%, the largest of any category that they had on their slides, were from home. Oh, I see, I see, I see. I got you now. So people were being infected in their own homes. Yes, they were isolated. They were in their homes. And they were the largest percentage by far of the categories that they had on that slide, which is really, really fascinating.

Well, let's see. The numbers were like 80,000. Now, let me put this in perspective for you. Debtes. 80,000, just a number, right? If you add the total deaths of the Korean War and the total deaths of the Vietnam War, that's 91,625. So we're almost at the equivalent, and we probably will be there by the time we talk next week.

Okay? of the total deaths of the Korean War and the Vietnam War put together. And that's the undeniable, that's, no matter what comes out, right, if they got the deaths right, but no matter how this thing goes, that's sort of that undeniable gut check is like, who, 80,000. That's a tall order. Yeah. That's a heck of a lot of people.

If this was a war in the Middle East, everybody would be clamoring together. out. Yeah, either get out or signing up to go over one of the other. Yeah, that's, yeah. So, Jordan, what's happening in your neck of the woods? Good to have you back on PBN. We missed you, the whole thing. And now you're back.

Give us a little bit of an update. What's going on in your world? You were telling us a little bit about some pretty impressive food production in the backyard there. I'd like to hear all about it. Yes, I'm definitely. Definitely trying to increase or at least optimize what I'm growing. I am trying a few new things.

My rice is sprouting. I've got maize going as well as with sweet corn and some Cherokee gem corn. I want to try my hand at some of our own grain. I even have amort growing in between to help separate the corn crops. So it should be interesting. If it's read correctly with the amort, I've got, I should get about almost a pound of grain per plant on the Amaranth. So it's going to be interesting.

I'm trying some completely new things. I'm trying to maximize what I have or at least supplement what I know we use in our household. It has been very interesting. We had one little cold snap, which I was able to cover and save my plants. Thank God. All right. And I know out east you are about to get him another one, but I am going to put this out.

hadn't said it and it what better to say on the COVID cast itself. We actually lost a family member personally, very close to us due to COVID-19. And here's the real kicker is I still hear a lot of criticism. I've had people say stuff. And the issue for me is the woman we lost had no underlying health conditions. Okay. Yeah, she was older. She was 91, but she was as healthy as most 40-year-old men. You know what I mean? Maybe even healthier is what I should say. The only thing that went against her was that she had Alzheimer's. The entire time her vital signs were great, they were strong, and then she was gone.

So don't think for one instant that just because you're healthy, you are immune from getting this. And I know that sounds horrible and I didn't mean to go dark on y'all. But if it hadn't been for her mind being gone, I think she would have made it. And the nurses said the same thing. If it hadn't been for the fact that her mind was gone and there wasn't someone to actually push her healthy body to keep going, you could have possibly made it. So please, for any instant, don't think for a second. It can't affect you personally.

Yeah, we're sorry for that loss, Jordan. I didn't want to bring it up because of your business. No, it's fine. I mean, I'm okay with putting it out there now. But it is very real. There's no doubt about it. There's no doubt. And it hurts.

When you get to that point of 80, 90, 100,000 deaths, you know, there's no getting around that number. I think the issues people don't. see how bad it is affecting places, and this is not to blow out. The nursing homes have it. In Arkansas, every single nursing home has it. The nursing staff has it. And they still have to go to work and still show up even with it, potentially infecting the elderly patients who don't have it. So people are not taking it seriously. I think the biggest issue is for us is we're in stage two, I think about to approach stage three of reopening. And I have seen more people.

So I'll go into a store and it seems like anymore it's just maybe the staff members wearing a mask. Elsewise, you might see 10% maybe 5% of the people coming in and out wearing mask. Really? Yeah. It's a lot less than what you would expect. Everybody has gone into protocol complacent. see. Well, here in Mississippi, people think because everything's open, the virus is gone. Sorry, I didn't

mean to backtrack y'all's whole tonight, but it really is an issue here in the mid-south. We do not see hardly anyone with face masks. My family, my mother-in-law, my children, we all wear a mask when we go into town. We refuse to go in. And here's the proof that one percent can be the issue. is out of nine people, we have one person in our entire family and this nine people who refuses to wear a mask into town. That's surprising.

That's very surprising because here in Virginia it's, well at least in my neck of the woods, it's been impressive. It's been impressive. There's a lot of people out there wearing masks. A lot of people you wouldn't expect

wearing masks too, you know, young couples, no kids. walking around in the woods and stuff with masks on. I see them like, wow, look at that. In the woods? Yeah. You know, like, I don't want to jack your car. Well, you know, they'd be in for it. I am going to chime in on something, though.

I did catch windows if we jump back to the whole food thing real quick. Let's do it. I have it from a good source, from a truck driver. He's retired now, but he just retired. and he still gets updates from other truck drivers on what to pay attention for. And the trucks that have been going to the meat processing plants for the scraps to take for dog food have completely stopped. They actually stopped about a week ago. So there are no longer from the processing plants, there is no outgoing meat for dog food.

So you will start seeing a shortage on dog food itself. I don't know that sounds silly, but that's what you're going to see first. No, that makes sense because you have to process meat to get the scraps. Right. And those have all stopped. Yeah. So, I mean, to hear from a truck driver himself, his buddy who goes to those places, says that he has now at a standstill and now has to do additional runs at other facilities to try to pick up work because now he's not making the dog food run. Hey, this came into mind because we were talking about the meat situation a lot lately,

and that was obvious. I don't know if everybody's heard about it or not, but I'm sure most of you have read that, you know, the exports to places like China have not really taken much of a hit, even though the processing plants themselves have taken a hit and the American people are going to take a hit. That's bad enough news. but that's the situation, you know, when you let a China, a country like China,

buy up one of the biggest pork processors and producers in your own nation. I guess that's what you have to deal with. But I was thinking about those piles of pigs and wondering, why couldn't we export those? Why didn't that become the backbone of the export? Why didn't we talk to someone in China in China? say, hey, we're going to send whole pigs. You process them yourself. I couldn't, you know, the chickens, the pigs, the cows,

there has to be a nation somewhere where we could have sent those things. Rather than, and then to see on the back end, okay, we killed them all. They're just total waste. Yet we're still going to export tons of meat to foreign nations and limit the shopping here in the United States. Those things drive me insane. I don't know about you guys. What's your take on it, Sam?

China ruling the roost here on farming and meat exports in the whole nine yards. I'm not surprised. I mean, Smithfield got bought by the Chinese a long time ago. It was a sad day. I remember that day. Do you remember it? I'm sure you read it, like, when it happened. Yeah, I mean, and the dogs.

food thing. Yeah, I thought about that a while back, and Matt and I were talking today about some dog food companies, like some of the more fancy ones, like Taste of the Wild and stuff, there's people, there's like the only real source of meat, if the processes are shut down and this would still have an effect, is like you can get like wild boar-based dog foods because you're not allowed to sell it to people. There's people in Texas that they just shoot wild boar and they sell them to the dog food companies. But I don't even think that's going to be happening. And right now you can get a lot of dog food for a pretty reasonable price delivered.

But, yeah, that's not going to go on for a while. And I don't, the whole meat processing thing, I don't, I wonder how long it's going to stay shut down. Because I don't think, I've worked at a, like a fish factory where they processed. us fish a lot and the conditions are just perfect for COVID-19. It is damp, it is wet, it is cold. You're right there with everybody. Yeah, I used to have to go down. Tell me about it.

I've worked at a chicken factory where we had famineella go through. Mm. Oh. Yeah. That's, I just like, I was, it's like, the place is called E.C. Phillips and it was up in Keshecan, Alaska. The whole floor was just, I mean, I, I, bet they must be shut down.

They would have to be, because it's such a small island. And I just don't see how the meat processors can, until this is really contained, not have outbreaks all the time. Yeah, now's the time. I know where Catcha Can is.

Oh, Catch a Can. Yeah. I was a state trooper in Alaska. Oh, boy, I bet you had some real stories. That place was terrible with crime. Oh, yeah. But that might have been before you were born, though. Oh, when I was there in the early, I guess it was 2005 through 7, the crime rate was awful.

It was like worst than the worst part of New Jersey in Catchycan. Damn, I was a state trooper when Carter was president. Okay. Yeah, that's before I was born. Were there people up there? Yeah, there were five. Easy to keep track of them. I mean, gee, I remember when I was growing up, they were still paying people to go there.

They were like pay you a stipend to go live in Alaska. It was so horrendous. Yep. They pay you still. They pay you still. They do. Yeah, you get oil. Yeah, they still do.

Yeah. Wow. I was there when they started that. That's amazing. It's not much, no. No, I haven't heard yet about the chicken factories back home. shutting down. As far as I know, all three of them are still going, but I'm sure it's going to start being strained. I know in Arkansas, a lot of the chicken factories are actually fed, or, you know,

the chickens that come in are coming from the local chicken farmers there, where they have three or four, several hundred-foot houses, because when I put myself through Weldon School, I actually ran 400-foot chicken houses myself and would go through. And I worked at four, someone who raised them. So, I mean, I remember the, I think it was not Pilgrim, the other one Tyson or something came in and would gather up the chickens and take them straight to the process and factory. So I don't know how it works at other places. Well, now for every downside, oh, sorry. Go ahead, go ahead. Well, for every downside, there's an upside.

So I was in Pennsylvania today, and the guy I was talking to said that if you wanted to, you want to, a half a side of beef that they can't get their beef to the processing plant. So you can buy now direct from the farmer. Now, the flip side to that on Friday, I got a

call from my guy at the farmer's market who does beef. And he said, hey, I have you down for half a beef in June, and I want you to know, I can't fill this order. He said, yeah, he said,

it's all I can do to get enough beef to the farmer's market because the stores are running out so quickly and everybody's going to the farmer's market now. And of course, I told, yeah, I told him, I said, well, that's a great place to be, you know, that you're running out. It's starting to become where it's almost better for you as a buyer to buy directly from the farmer themselves. And that's what Mississippi is really trying to promote Is buying from straight from the producer

Then going through a third person I mentioned the CSA That's the way to go The cool thing about the CSA is that they commit to you You know what I mean? So you don't have to worry about that issue That Dave is talking about Where I've got an order way ahead of time

You know it's like I'm in I bought my share You're going to bring me my stuff You know you've already planned for this And yeah that's that's a lot That's the way to go, I think. Well, and it's a lot. So out here, you can buy it by a whole cow, a half cow, quarter cow, an eighth of a cow, whatever you want to do.

You are going to put more into it, and yes, you're going to have to process more. But it really is an investment. Luckily for me is I can buy locally. I do have a girlfriend who raises her own Cooney Cooney-Cunee American Guinea Hogs, who she's getting her USDA or whatever. it is she has to go through to have it licensed so she can sell directly from her farm to people and so it's fortunate enough to have friends who i can get sheep or or pork i am working on building a relationship with someone so i can actually start buying a whole cow or even do a trade of i pay for the head of cow as long as they they raise the cow and then i come and butcher when it's time so

it's, I'm really working on a barter and trade system of being able to keep food or goods in my house that I can't necessarily do by myself. That's the key. Yeah, and the thing that Prepper Broadcasting Network has always done is we've looked ahead. So if you, if you look back on these COVID presentations that we've done, we've always told you ahead of time what, what you should. should be looking at now. And we're all talking about food. And when you, when you listen to the, the interview with Tim McWelch, okay, so he's a survival guy, a prepper, he wrote seven or eight books, three of them, New York Times bestsellers, and he's talking about food. Okay. So,

So if you're not hammered down these relationships now, you really should be. Right. Or look at people you can. You know, it's kind of funny as I did an interview Saturday with Eric Tradcat Night. And it came up, like you said, is building a relationship. But it was also knowing that you may have a skill you may not think anything of. It has a value. You know, whether it be crocheting, whether it be spinning, whether it be.

basket weaving, whatever it is, you have a skill. Look, Dave has, Dave has quell. That right there comes with a value. You know, James has a garden. Sam has her sheep. Everybody has some value that is, it has a value that is worth something. So don't sell yourself short on what you're able to trade or barter because it is in its own currency. Sorry, I had to get that little uplifting out there after I downed it earlier.

Well, you know that we're not going to really understand the effect of the meat shortage or the processing plants being shut down until the nation is back. You know, we're seeing things being limited now at locations, but there's no restaurants ordering. You know what I mean? There's schools been out for how long. Yes. Where's all that food that was supposed to be. going to the restaurants because it ain't ended up at Walmart.

See, we were fortunate enough. The food that ended up in the restaurants were from the local butcher I purchased from. And so they did a freezer sellout on all the bulk food. So don't think for one second I didn't stand there and snatch up as much as I could. I probably spent $500. But that was $500 I could spend on food at one go because I wasn't going to the grocery store. Well, that's a good pickup. So you've got to look at the fact that if you,

you are in an area like mine, most of these restaurants want to be known for their best food or their best cuts of meat. So most of them here, I don't know about where you're at, only purchase local so they can support a local business, but also show that they're being supported too, which means more people buy and more people purchasing. I know some of the main restaurants were actually selling their freezer stocks here. Like the ones that were being close, like some of the big dining restaurants were selling everything they had in their freezer to try to bring in some income since they weren't actually cooking. Yeah, and they knew it would not be good by the time they opened back up. Hey, and speaking to open it back up, since I was in Pennsylvania today, they're a little dictator of a governor. is being, he is being all he can be, okay? Yeah, well, that's the syndrome lately.

Yeah, so here's what's happening. Just like in Virginia, where the rural parts of the state are saying, hey, what the heck, you know, these counties have petitioned the governor to let them open. and he says no and we are in control of your licenses. Whoa. And we will pull your license if you open the restaurant license, the liquor license, all of the license of the service industry run through the state. Now, is that not the total dictator, right?

Well, it's amazing that they aren't, you know, we beg them to do the right thing. And when the right thing comes up, they almost seem unwilling to do it because they're worried about re-election. You know, the conservative thing, whatever that thing may be. But this thing is, they just have thrown all caution to the wind. It seems like many of these governors have no desire to be. It's almost like they're like the Emperor Palpatine. in their ear or something telling them

you must keep them locked down. You must keep them locked down. You know what I mean? Because you're not being elected again. There's no way that guy will get elected again. Too many people are going to be crushed, especially

those small guys out there in the rural areas. You have to let them open up. That's so crazy. Yeah, hair salons, barbershops, they're all licensed through your state. Yeah, that's rough. that's rough because god only knows how long they're gonna they're gonna push that you know that could

just go as long as they want all depending on who's what the data is around there and how many cases can you have in in mechanicsville pennsylvania right now you know or mecklenburg i mean rather exactly yikes that's that's that's kaioga county yeah exactly who's wandering around there man that's an ugly thing but but we're seeing you know we're we're seeing the true face of what power can do to people you know it makes people they get drunk they get drunk on it and it's that's exactly what a lot of them are doing right now i don't know what's going to happen you know what i'm still i'll tell you dave talks about the future and what we we talk about the things that are coming and what i'm most most concerned about right now now i'm an idiot when it comes

economics so I take Stephen's word for it when it comes to what the financial crisis could look like would look like should look like I'm most concerned about the fall you know I really am

worried about what happens if and I'm not necessarily concerned about a second more deadly wave of the virus what I'm concerned about is a second wave of the virus and I'm concerned about the people of the United States going,

there's no way I'm going through that hell again. Like, there is no way, because I know people who are going through hell right now. You know what I mean? Like, the highest, the lowest levels of hell that you can go through, they're going through. No money, no unemployment money, no way to work. No, you know, the whole thing. Kids are screwed by this thing.

And I, for all that has happened, you know, I know like three guys personally that are like, we're probably going to go out of business. You know, three personally around the nation that are basically, they're in the business equivalent of hospice right now. And I just can't imagine if they somehow survive. And then we make it through the summer. And the fall kicks in, and the holiday shopping season is right around the corner,

and cases start creeping up. And you have dipshit mayor in Pennsylvania, or governor saying, oh, you know what? We're going to have to close it all down again. People are going to go crazy. I just can't see, you know, people have done, I think people have done a pretty damn good,

job, at least in my area, in Delaware and in Pennsylvania from what I've heard from the people that I know there, my family in particular. Amen. I can't see them being nice and playing nice again, particularly if you hit them right before the holidays. That's worst case scenario in my head right now is what the fall looks like. I think you're going to see that. I hate to say it, but I think you are going to see that.

And I think, a suggestion now, I'm not telling people to. go out and panic by, but I've realized with just the, what, the couple months, what, since November, I think really December is really when I started cutting back on how much I was going out anyways. And definitely the last two months, I've really not gone anywhere. But I've, I've been able to watch how it's impacted our supply. So to our listeners, yes, I have noticed a price increase on your common goods. And it's only going to probably get worse if we have the same issues we have the last few years in the Midwest with our major crops on top of the meat shortage, go ahead and start restocking your stuff or add into it now. They're not

limiting canned goods at the moment. You can still get canned goods again now. I'm not trying to scare anyone, but go ahead and get some extra because if it hits that, come December or November or whatever it is, like James is saying, the last thing you want to do is being that person trying to go out and grab that one crappy can of peas or beans or whatever it is on the shelf. But, I mean, honestly, you can buy rice and flour again. Go ahead and bite and put it up. We know how to. I mean, then that way we're not having to fight the people who have no clue how to even store these goods.

I mean, I was finally able to go in and buy five little containers of peanut butter. Believe or not, you wouldn't believe how excited I was to have those because that's what I eat at work. peanut butter and celery sticks Oh no Peanut butter than carrot Or apples and peanut butter Yes So here you have

Five preppers Okay sitting around This is what James said Is bar stool talk Right So we're all sitting around We're just chatting And what are we chatting about

The next food The food and putting up food, and it's all focused on food. So it's not that you want to scare anybody. It's just that we're talking about making food, preserving food, storing food. You know, we got chickens now, which we've never had, and all we're doing is producing chickens so we can have chicken, because the last two times we went out, there was no chicken at Costco and no chicken at Walmart. I mean, that's just our area, and that's just what we saw.

But my wife's got to be... I think that's great. I think that's great that you're doing that. I really do. The fun part is, even for all of y'all in the chat or even on here with me, is how many of y'all are going to take in the chickens of the people who just bought all those chicks and don't realize they won't start laying until they're six months old? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Keep your eyes on Craigslist. That's a great point. You can get free roosters on Craigslist. Yeah. And the roosters are the ones you want to eat. And you got all these people who don't have a clue about chickens. I actually had a couple come in to tractor supply. I was picking up something for the chickens I had.

Oh, for the duck. I have a Muscovy duck. And these people started asking this employee, well, how much does that coop hold? Well, I, and she goes, honestly, I don't know. and I was like, well, I can chime in. And I started telling them information about the coop they have, about the chickens. They had no clue. They had apparently bought like 12 chickens or chicks and had no clue how much the coop held.

I told them approximate from what the size was, you know, what the time span on these coups that you buy from tractor supply are. I mean, they were just asking all these questions. I even guided them to the network because she's into prepping or learning about prepping. I was like it was great to have that network, but it goes to show at least they were willing to ask questions. You'd be surprised the number of people I've seen

coming in and then coming back later from those employees who have no clue what the heck they're doing. Yeah, and another thing. Okay, go ahead. Well, those during coupes, they show a tractor supply. They should come with a warning label

that they are not raccoon proof. Or they are not not mold proof. You have to treat them to keep them from get mold. We actually lucked out and got a big coop for like $50 that was exposed to weather, had to replace one door. The coop that they have on display in tractor supply is covered in mold and it's never been outside. And it is covered in mold. Jeez. Yeah. So I mean, people don't realize the shelf life on these coups also aren't but a couple years. Then expect to make repairs and build something a little more permanent. They will fall apart. on you. Yeah, you know, the other big factor in the fall, as perilous as it sounds and as almost

conspiratorial as it sounds, is the idea that I have to imagine the people who are heading up these states and have the power to shut down things again are going to be pushing to affect the election in some way, right? Because we've never lived through a, time like this where so many people have just, they're willing to do almost anything to get Donald Trump out of office. And if we can convince the public that they have to shelter in place again in the fall and then they have to vote online, how, how wacky could things get if we have some kind of first time ever online election in the fall? I mean, it just, that is another terrifying situation. You know, you, and it's almost not, it almost doesn't scare me as much from the standpoint of the election itself,

but it terrifies me to think what could happen following election like that if you, if you find out that somehow Joe Biden wins and the people are so disenfranchised because that guy is like, you know, he's like a scarecrow. And somehow he pulls through and wins the election and nobody's going to trust the results either way. You know, it's just terrifying thing. Another little fact, you know, I'm full of these durn little tidbits that just fly out of my head. So if Biden wins the election, he will be older than Ronald Reagan was when he left office. I believe it.

I believe it. I wouldn't care how old the guy was. I care that he can't even keep his eyes open. That's what I care about. You know what I mean? The age is no big deal to me, but geez. It's a terrifying thing to look at that man and think, what? Is there's nobody?

Nobody in the media, nobody in the Democrat Party has stood up to say, what have we done? What have we done? Did Trump pay somebody to make this guy his opponent? I mean, it's like you paid somebody. It's like if you could set it up perfect, if you were setting up a boxing match, who would you want? You would want Joe Biden in the opposing corner.

That's what Donald Trump has. It's insane. It just all, none of it adds up. And it all leads me to this sort of fall fiasco that I am really starting to get worried about. But that was the whole point of the EPC. the whole point of kind of what what we started all way back then and uh you know the big the biggest takeaway from every everyone what everyone is saying tonight is don't fall into the pitfall of

i have my preps and i'm using my preps because it's a crisis because you're right in that but the thing about prepping is that you have to prep through the crisis too you know it's it's not like okay it's crisis time i'm not leaving I'm not doing anything. Everything stops, and we just start chewing through our resources and supplies. No way. You know, now we have to keep the ball rolling, or things will run out. You know, and you don't want things to run out in wave two with an election, with a,

I mean, who knows in the fall where we're going to be with China? The fall is worrying me, man. The fall is really worrying me. Maybe we get it all sorted out. using up my supplies. What did you say, Jordan? I've started using up some of my, what I'd call my active supplies. So now it would then be, we are getting close towards touching the reserves, which is now my time to re-stock our active and rotate out.

Which I knew about how long we could go on just active, which is fine. But because of everything else, we're luckily going into a season. where here pretty soon my garden's going to be producing. So I can then push back some of my canned goods so then I can get ready to eat fresh and then start canning fresh. Sure. Oh, yeah. And like right now, I've got actually probably over five dozen eggs in my fridge right now. I probably got more than that.

I like the sounds of it. But yeah, it's a big thing. You got to keep it. It really is. I have learned myself, okay, I've used up some and went into my reserves and I used it up, which means now I need to supplement. So people take for me, definitely if you think you have enough, you probably don't because I thought I had enough of one thing. You'd be surprised how much you can go through something just in a few months. Or you don't realize how much your family eats something until you've gone through it completely.

That's another great concept because you may turn your, you may set your sights on using something more. eat, you store what you eat, right? That's the basics of it all, but you may not understand how much of it you might eat. The best example is rice. You know, that we eat rice like crazy. Beams in our house. Yeah, exactly, right? And, and that stuff just starts to go. Like, you buy a 50 pound bag of rice and you're like, how the hell did we eat 50 pounds of rice? You know what I mean? Rice, beans, I think green beans is a big one that really hit us, but beans. Do you do black eyed peas?

We do black eyed peas, but not as often. We probably do a lot more refried beans. So we actually ran through refried beans in certain seasons pretty quick. Yeah, man, the stuff goes. Goes fast. What else? What are we missing, Sam? You with us still?

What do you think we're missing on this? Sam showing us pictures. of her chicken fortress. Oh, is she been missing out on this? Let me see. Yeah. I have chicken envy. I know. We've had a lot of chicken pins.

It took a while to get to that point because we just, they just changed a lot over the farm over the years. And we had this little barn up in the vineyard and chain link. And so we created the chicken wing. Matt built the chicken wing. And then there's this chicken, like, chain link. It looks, all I need is razor wire and it's a light that looks like your presence. It is amazing though.

That is gargantuous and I love it. I am very envious. My girlfriend has an open field or open area and she has big old dog pins is what she's using as separate chicken pins to separate each of her chickens. That's amazing. I'm jealous of both y'all. That's just, oh man. we had bobcat last year like get a lot of geese and stuff and the dogs see we could put the dogs around that barn too and that's nice just to guard it it's I just don't want to lose them because it'd probably be hard to replace chickens right now oh sure we have an inchie baiter oh it's impossible we're told we can't get chicks until sometime in June and then it's a first come first serve even if you're are on the list.

Yeah, I don't know what's really short at grocery stores or anything because I still haven't been to one. So I don't know. I just don't know. I think it's pretty, pretty like meat, maybe a little bit. They had these big chicken sales at various places where, like, House of Rayford, I think it was called. I think they mostly do the restaurant business, but they would just.

pull up and sell like 40 pound boxes of chicken for $35 or something. So people bought a lot of that. And some people complained because they're like, I could only get drumsticks. But it's like, well, you're paying less than a dollar a pound for chicken. I wouldn't complain too much about that. But you didn't have to get out of your car. So I think that helped alleviate some of it. But going into fall and such, I think there's just going to be various types of shortages and stuff.

The articles I just did was on just the household goods. Because there was a lot of stuff in this country when this started. But we're going to start running through those containers. It's going to be the electronics. It's going to be, I've seen some of the lists from people that work at Walmart when stuff's going to get restocked. And it's terrifying. The sewing machines are absolutely unavailable.

Every time I've talked to the Walmart staff, they said they cannot keep them. They can't even stock them online because they're gone. They're not going to get any more for about four months. Yeah. And the cost of fabric for those who enjoy sewing has gone up immensely. Just your simple fat square for those who know what I'm talking about or quarter of a square. normally would pay 97 cents. Now you're paying $2 for just one single quarter square.

Holy crap. So it's gone up quite a bit. So your one yard of fabric that you could buy pre-cut went from $2 to $4. So there is definitely a price increase on your basic stuff. Electronics is going to be a big issue too. If anybody needs a wireless card or something like that, they better get it now because Oh, big screen TVs are sold out up at the Walmart here.

They said if people got their stimulus checks, it was big screen TVs, DVD players, and something else. It wasn't laptops, surprisingly enough. Yeah, there you go. So you get your stimulus check, and of course you can't eat a big screen TV come the wintertime. No, it doesn't even burn. Textiles and spices.

Like spices is a big deal. People don't, I mean, there's all this, you know, food we've got put back, like rice and such. You've got to be able to spice it. Black peppercorns, most of them are grown in India. And I know you're not going to, you get a pound of peppercorns to the last forever, but things like that. We're just thinking about what the textiles, like sheets and socks. We grow a lot of cotton here, but that doesn't mean that the cotton doesn't go over to India and get woven. You know, it's funny that you say that because I have actually probably spent a good little chunk of change recently on fleeces, which I need to get some from you too.

I need to purchase some for you. I bought some merino. I actually have a girlfriend who traded me some alpaca. I'm going to get my hands on some llama. And then I have some Romney. I'm trying different fibers. And then I've got a loom. So I am working on what I can do to start producing more of my own textiles in my home, whether it's,

be me quilting, weave in, crocheting. You know, it's, it really is trying to produce what I can for, for the winter, because God knows, wool socks are amazing. If anyone's ever had 100% wool socks, they breathe, believe it or not, but they're amazing. Add a little angora and your feet are toasty. Yeah, winter clothing is something that right now you can get it for pennies on the dollar, too. I mean, I thought, yeah, if anybody has to eat a little extra. you can get your winter clothes right now for about 70% off.

I think I've paid like 25 cents a shirt at Walmart for some thicker long sleeve, almost thermal type shirts. And sweats. I think I paid like 25 cents a pair of sweatpants. Yeah, some of the online retailers are very desperate. Like coals, I never go into a coal store, but I've been shopping at them online because right now you can get, and they give you so much money back that your second order is really, cheap so you wide it on your second order getting a Columbia fleece for 15 bucks or something instead of 60 things like that is not cheap no and it's but it's cheaper than what you get at the dollar

store Walmart when you add in your coupons and stuff like right now so and hats just anything that you need for winter time if you have a little extra you can save a lot because it might be a lot higher than an average come winner. You have to insulate yourself from rising costs because things like microwaves and such. Okay, people are selling on eBay. If there's

a shortage of something and they put some for auction on eBay, they're not price gouging if that auction goes up. They can start 50 bucks and if some rich person wants to pay $500 for the microwave that you or I would have paid 75 for, they can outbid us

and we're out of luck. Right. Right. So anything like that? Yeah, we're going to compete with people that have unlimited funds. It doesn't mean anything to them to pay absorbent prices. Right. And pay attention. Oh, sorry, go ahead. That's okay. I have this report. I wanted to know what James is going to do with it. Where is he going to post it? Because there's a whole vitamin protocol in there. It turns out that this disease, as we learn,

about it. It's more about the blood than it is about the lungs. So it's like a mosquito. Yeah, it gets into the blood and does different things. It's at ACE2 receptor, which is located in a lot of places, including the lungs. Now, it may get in through the lungs and the mucus membranes of the, you know, the lining of the passageways, but it affects. your liver, your heart, all kinds of organs inside your body, because it seems to be a blood type thing. So this report that I have, and I've been talking about it, and you can Google it. Anybody out there listening, you can Google it, but I provided James the PDF copy.

it's called the EVMS Critical Care COVID-19 Management Protocol. Is it the same as your vitamin protocol? Well, a little different, but pretty much the same. So on the like the second or third page, it's just a 13-page report. It comes from the university, where is this at, in eastern Virginia, Medical University, Eastern Virginia, Norfolk, Virginia, the chief of pulmonary and critical care medicines. Okay, this is the, and right here on the report, it says, urgent, please circulate as the widest possible circulation. It is critical that this gets to pulmonary, pulmonary, pulmonary, pulmonary, people with the heart.

Pulmonologists. Yeah, pulmonologist. Every critical care doctor and nurse and every hospital administrator and every public health official receive this information immediately. And it's the reason why they didn't need all the ventilators in New York. Okay. Remember when this first started and it was all about ventilators? It's not about the lungs.

and they're actually finding out that if you put ventilated air into people's lungs, you break them. So it's about the blood. And there's a vitamin protocol in here. So prophylactic is 500 milligrams of vitamin C and 250 to 500. zinc, okay, which we talked about zinc before, and they recommend the zinc lozenges because it's between 75 and 100 milligrams of zinc. For some reason, they put melatonum in there, but I think it's, or melatonin, sorry, I have to decipher from what what Lewis calls it, melatonin, and I think it's to get good sleep.

I'm not sure what that is for. But then vitamin D 1,000 to 4,000 units per day. That's interesting. They go from milligrams to international units. So they're using two different measures, which is kind of strange. But this is the prophylactic. If you don't have any symptoms and you're just going about your normal day, this is what you should be taken on a daily basis.

And then if you start getting symptomatic, if you start getting some symptoms, they say vitamin C, 500 milligrams, zinc, 75 to 100, melatonin, sorry, and then vitamin D, 1,000 to 400, and then they say optional. an aspirin, an 81 milligram aspirin to 320. Yes, yes. Aspirin is a blood thinner.

Sure, yeah. So what this thing has been doing is putting clots in little places in the lungs and all through your body, there's been people that have had blood clots, and then there's this thing called COVID toes. and it's the absence of circulation. In the very small veins in your body, blood has been clotting. And then they also say hydroxychloroquine. If you're in the early stages, early symptomatic.

So it's a very good report. It gives people some action that they can do right now. And when they get the disease, they also say get a pulse ox meter. They say have that on hand at home, which we said that weeks and weeks ago. Yeah. I just put it up. I just put it up on Facebook. I just put it up on our Discord server under the COVID-19 heading.

So go ahead and get it. What I'll do tomorrow is I'll shoot it. out as a protocol to follow through our newsletter also and hit that group. So Facebook, Discord, and email list. If you are listening to the podcast and you

are not over on Facebook, Discord, or the mailing list, shame on you. So can I mention another shortage? Yeah, but it's not food. So it's medicine. Oh, most definitely. So he mentioned the hydroxychloroquine.

which we are now finally able to purchase outside of hospitals. They're actually making the hospitals return all the hydroxychloroquine because there's been so many studies that are actually against it. Or I guess the information isn't definitive enough to say it works 100% or it doesn't. But that drug itself has more than tripled in price. We have seen your simple drugs such as Zoloft. For those who don't know name brand, it's certuline. It's used as an antidepressant.

It's helped to increase mood. That for us, if anybody has notices and an increase in prices, because these medications have almost tripled, tripled in price. I mean, it's gotten very hard. We finally were just able to get a certain type of Zoloff that we haven't been able to get a billify. I was finally able to get Abilify again as well, which is Aripeepipersol. So keep in mind that D.S. shortages do not just affect our food industry or our goods industry. It also affects our medication.

And I am seeing it hard. My card is, tell them a sarton, I can't get it right now. The few I can get are so ridiculously expensive that I'm trying to wait to last minute before I have to purchase them because I know which patients are on them. So keep in mind, if you see a price increase, it is not the pharmacy trying to do one over on you. It's because the prices have gone high that it affects how we have to bill. So I have seen shortages. Oh, Val Sarton is absolutely unattable. If you're on Val Sarton, talk to your doctor. You may need to see if you can be put on a different type of medication. Phamadidine, believe it or not, we have just now started to be able to get it.

Most of the pharmacies can't get it at all, even your big box store pharmacies. So it is definitely something to look at your medication. I know I preach it time and time again. Pay attention to what you're on. If you can get ahead on your pills, do so. A lot of pharmacies are not doing 90-day supply still. So if you're lucky enough, then that's great. But elsewise, just keep an eye out because your medication and your health is just as important as being able to feed yourself.

because there's a lot of medication people cannot come off of. So sorry, and there's my little rant on meds, but I have seen a lot of meds, both normal blood pressure and cholesterol meds, as well as stomach meds and mental health meds unavailable. Well, and I know a lot of our listeners are military or former military, the VA will do 90 days. So if you can get in the VA.

Oh, that's fantastic. Yeah, and if you can get it, get it for 90 days. See, we'll do 90 days, but we try to take care of our patients as much as possible. But I know like Walgreens and CVS at the moment are not doing them here. I don't know about anywhere else. It's all very interesting, isn't it? This is a weird, it's such a weird event that it just touches almost everything. You know, it touches almost every layer of our life.

And I think one of the biggest takeaways from this, at least where we're, we're at now. I don't know if it's going to be, you know, who knows what it's going to be. Nobody really knows. We just look ahead and, you know, use the evidence we have now to assume we know what's going to happen in the future. But I've been ending these COVID casts with the same message about it being a tremendous time for personal transformation. You know, it really is a great time to, particularly if you're listening to this podcast on a whim, to really sit down and reevaluate and say, you know, what, what do I really want to be doing with my life? Should I be doing more of this preparedness stuff? Should I be doing more of this growing of food and raising of chickens?

It's, I have these little baby Austrolops that are running around and I can't keep them in the yard. And they're running around in the front yard, which is not the end of the world in my neighborhood. But, you know, people are walking by and they see them and they have all kinds of. questions and all kinds of desires and now's the time to uh to really consider living out those desires rather than just watching other people do it or listen to other people do it you know um anybody have anything else before we called it quits on this one would james i'd like to set up the interview oh right yeah okay let's let's do a quick vote since we have a good bunch of people because something kind of popped into my head about the interview.

Should we run it as a standalone interview with Tim? Because it's 30 minutes. It's more than long enough to be a podcast on its own, and it's probably going to get buried an hour and a half into the show. You're right. You know what I mean? And what he has to say is it's from a survival. revivalist, okay?

I think it is very important that the people listen to it. So where are you going to put it? Well, I think I'm just going to post it as an episode of your show. Okay. What do you think about that? Yeah. You want me to record an introduction? That's completely up to you.

Well, I should because we just started talking. And I hit the record button. I said, wait, Tim, wait. Let's do this on the interview. the button we just started talking i mean i could always say interview between dave jones and well we'll talk about it offline however we want to set it up but i think it deserves a a spot on its own yeah okay i i agree i agree when i seen sam get in and jordan get in i said you know what we're going to have a good time tonight we're probably going to talk for a long time

so yeah better to give him his spotlight than bury him at the at the hour and a half plus mark you know, people are like, God, when does this thing end? I don't want to hear from a new guy. You were saying, we'll do a short show tonight. No, that's, you know. If you listen to my show, everybody who listens to the I Am Liberty show should not be surprised at all in that one. I've been guilty of that many times. But, all right, folks, another COVID cast in the books.

I may try to get, oh, don't worry about it. Another COVID cast in the books. We're going to keep them coming as long as it makes sense. Yeah, you know, things just keep happening. Let us know wherever you can let us know. If you email, if you, however you communicate with us, we get a lot of communications for a bunch of different people. But we're getting to the point now where I'd like to kind of know,

you know, the COVID casts in the past were really easy to focus on. Death rate is growing. infection rate is growing rate in the United States is growing what's coming right I don't want to spend the next month or two months talking about reopen so if you

have something that you would like to hear disgust on the COVID cast in the coming week let us know tell us in Discord tell us in you know and maybe even send me a private message because you got to make sure I'm paying attention or let Jordan know and Jordan

she'll stay on me trust me She'll make sure that that gets taken care of one of my favorite qualities of her. But outside. I need it, though. You know, it helps me because I got a really thing in my health. For me, in terms of the prepper broadcasting network and prioritizing things, it is a great quality. I appreciate you, folks. We will talk soon next Monday, no doubt, tomorrow night.

is the double barrel. Oh, no, tomorrow night is not the double barrel. Actually, the guys from the Patriot Power Hour taking the night off, they're going to be tentatively they're going to be doing their show on Wednesday night. I didn't read the latest email, but I think they're going to jump to Wednesday night because they have to take the day off Tuesday. But those guys, man, they don't ever want to be off. So they might be on before the I Am Liberty Show.

I'll shore that up. As of right now, they are. Okay. And I'll do the daily audio cash more. I would not doubt it. I do appreciate that, though. Sure, sure. I think that's about it, folks.

I appreciate you, and we'll talk soon. Thank you for listening to the Prepper Broadcasting Network, where we promote self-reliance and independence. Tune in tomorrow for another great show and visit us at Prepperbroadcasting.com.