The Prepper Broadcasting Network - FOIL FRIDAY: The 4th Turning w/ Dave Jones and Chin Gibson

Episode Date: April 24, 2026

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To oppose tyranny and fight for the rights are creator bestowed us in the United States Constitution. We are the Prepper Broadcasting Network. Well, hello everyone out there in Internet Radio Land. Let me get this volume right here. I don't want to blow your ears out. This is Dave Jones, the NBC guy. How you doing? I hope everybody out there in radio listening land is doing great.

And if you're tuning in to us live, We have a new chat room. I have the old chat room up, and there's no one in there. So we're doing good. We're doing good. And there's someone in the new chat room. So we're working on it. I have a very special guest tonight.

And this is a very special show, because I have not had this many show notes, and I don't know how long. So first, let me bring in the special guest. guest, he is someone that should be, should have no introduction whatsoever because he is our Lucius Fox. Chin Gibson, he is a fixture at Preper Camp. He's, he's been a long-time listener of PBN, and he is the man that did so much amazing work on the Discord channel for us during COVID and the gun rally in Virginia, and they got banned from Discord. I don't know if he got banned for life,

but he got kicked off. And now he's working on the element for us. So that's what I mean when I say we have a new chat room. It's the element. We're in there right now. Lucky's in there. Jen's in there. And Chin is in there.

and the great thing about element is that we won't lose the chat. So if you post something in chat, we can go back to it. If there's links that come up, the old PBN chat, it went away. When you were done and you signed out,

all that information was lost. Yes, he is truly a wizard. Chin, can you hear me? Chins up What's up, Dave? Chins up and I can hear you Can they hear us? That's the question.

Should they hear us? Do they want to hear us? Lucky, give us a thumbs up if you can hear us in the chat okay. I'm telling you, we had some technical difficulties and I'm sure it was on my end because I have spotty internet at best

an older computer that I broadcast on And, uh, ding, there went my phone. Someone's texting me. Do you chin? I, I did nothing. I'm innocent. It's Alex.

I'm going to silence this. He's upstairs and sends any message downstairs. Welcome to the modern family. Yeah, kids. Okay, so I'm going to assume that we're live and people can hear us because I click the live button and not the record button, which is always a good start. Okay. So tonight's show we got chin on because we are going to talk about the fourth turning. Okay. But before we do that, I want to talk about some other stuff.

Oh, it says Dave's sound is a little choppy. And when we were testing it out today, in all the different variations, the only way we could get to work is if Dave's sound was a little choppy. And since Chin is the special guest star tonight, I said, I can live with that. So I'm not going to be talking about anything all that much important. So we're just going to have to go with the choppiness. Chin, I have a couple questions to ask you before we get started in a fourth turn. Oh, and then we're going to review.

My neighbor has some buggy. out bags and a bug out vehicle and he asked me, oh excuse me he asked me he asked me to check it over and give an opinion and this was just this afternoon

and I said do you mind if we talk about it on a show tonight and he said no great and this way you guys can hear what we're talking about and why and in the chat room you can give us more suggestions if there's something we miss

You know, because, you know, more heads are better than one, especially when mine's a cabbage head. So, Chin, I want to ask you, did you do any special preps or changes to your preps or change your priorities since COVID started? I bought a lot of masks. Do you mean the N95s or chemical protective masks or? No, I just did 95s. Okay. I kind of, I inventoried everything all over again. Yeah.

And then we did a hard rotation on our stocks. So I bought a lot of new stuff while I still like that the first couple weeks when we were all saying it's coming down the pike before the government told us it was coming down the pipe. I did a lot of restocking and then rotated the old stocks up to the top. It's just to refresh everything. And since then, I have not, since we've still been able to restock, I've been just basically doing a pretty standard shopping biweekly or so. So I don't touch anything.

I mean at first we didn't know how bad the lockdown was going to be so we kind of wanted to get everything in order and then as it never since we could still get things get items we're doing a lot of like mail order stuff a lot of the grocery stores and stuff will deliver to the house I never really went without we just couldn't go in person but purchase so I as long as I could get it coming in I kept it coming in

so we weren't the replenishing any of our stocks, depleting any of our stocks. So that's kind of what we did. I beefed up a bunch of just over-the-counter meds and stuff. Both my wife and I are fairly healthy, so we didn't have to worry about prescriptions or anything. So we just kind of beefed up everything, reviewed everything, and then didn't touch anything and kept living our lives.

Yeah. And when you think back when that first started, okay, first of all, Two things that you said there that I got to point out to the listeners. If you are listening to Prepper Broadcasting Network, you will get some early warning. And I mean, we talked about this in January. Before it was on anybody's radar. And I remember talking to James about it. And he said, do you think we should do a show on it?

And I said, well, the death toll isn't quite there yet. So he put up a show by Doc Bones and Nurse Amy, which was really, really good. And that's how far back it is. But when you say how far back, that's only been seven months. I know. It seems like a turn. It seems like a decade. Yeah.

Yeah. When this first started, I expected to see checkpoints and police stopping vehicles. because they put us on lockdown and I'm like you know first of all I didn't want to go anywhere and then when we did decide to venture out man we were practically in full full model here we've been lucky actually so my job has allowed me to tell work cool so I shifted from an office worker till tell worker and I have telework since the middle of March and we have we have I have only been in a tractor supply once and I've been in an auto mechanics shop

twice, two different vehicles that I was getting, you know, some just stuff that need to be able. Because you didn't have to venture out. Yeah, why? You were able to stay. Hey, aren't we saving on gas too? Yeah, Sam B had put the, you know, threw down the gauntlet. And I'm like, well, heck, if she could stay cooped up, I'm doing it.

Wow. She's got a homestead. Yeah. Yeah. But no, we figured if we don't have to expose ourselves, let's just play it safe. I mean, we've gone, we took a long weekend vacation kind of a way to get out of town. But even then it was like to a secluded, you know, go hiking and just kind of grab fresh air. not be around anyone. So yeah, we're taking it serious. So what we did, we changed our priorities

of some preps. Okay. So we yeah. What really got us was the we organized finding. Okay. We got everything inventoried up on shelves. We really, really got our crap together. And that's, that's what I'm feeling good about. We know exactly where we are and pretty much exactly what we need. So that was great. Hey, did you do anything special for the riots? Other than just before, again, just before lockdown,

I was in a sporting goods store, and at that time, they had some precious metals on sale. On sale. No way. No way. I made a purchase. I came home and showed it to the wife, and this is how much I'm a lucky guy. She goes, well, should you get more?

Oh. I love my wife. I never get that. Oh, yeah. I don't know. What the heck did you get that for? You know, it's never a good idea, too. It's her idea.

Yeah, I know. You have to be smart. I guess. Work smarter, not harder. Yeah. I can't work hard. enough around here. The warden has been cracking the whip, man. I am beat. I am beat down. I know. We were talking this morning and all of a sudden you had to be quiet because someone was coming down

the stairs. Yeah. You got found out. I did. So, you know, two people have asked me about body armor. So I started checking in body armor. This is for the riots. Okay. Yeah. And, man, it is, it's gone. It's gone. Yeah. So is everything out? Yeah. Have you seen, like, firearms or like 22 is the biggest caliber that I've seen on like ads and stuff right now? All the other stuff is pretty, it's stuff for really obscure manufacturers.

Yeah. Yeah, so if you didn't, what is PBM? Prepar broadcasting network. Oh, it's the intrepidgen. He is in the chat. Okay, everybody on their best behavior. That's right. Straighten up now.

So you were saying about body armor. Yeah. There's a guy that makes it. I think it's in Tennessee. He has a plasma cutter, and he actually makes it and dips it in that rubber. And he got on his website, please allow four weeks for delivery. And I'm like, wait a minute, you're making it out of your, you know, shop there.

And he must be so backlogged on orders that he had to put this up on the website. And ceramic plates, if you can find them, get them. Because they're non-existent. And you just can't, you know, cut them out of steel. They have to be really made. Another thing that came up was Fortitude Ranch is opening up for the election. So it's the first time ever they're opening up for members. Also, we're doing prep for training at Fortitude Ranch.

We have never done this before. Two weekends ago, we brought members in. We trained them up and they got tactical. training, how to move, how to camouflage, all that kind of stuff. We went over procedures for the ranch, what will happen, different scenarios. And they're doing this again in the Colorado location. So if anybody's interested in getting some top-notch, prepper training, Google Fortitude Ranch, it's at the end of August.

Members get it for free. other people have to pay for it. So if you're thinking about a membership, this might push over the edge. Also, they're opening up two new locations. One in Tennessee and one in Nevada. Of course, we're still in Wisconsin. I don't know what that is. Someone put out.

Too much coffee. I guess. Look for it. like a dead bug. They put it in a chat room. So that's my plug for Fortitude Ranch. You know, if you're looking for a good plan B, yep. There's nothing better than actually getting off a static range and learning, walking through doing this training. It's way different than, you know,

indoor ranges or your local, like, community outdoor static range. moving and shooting is a skill to learn. Yeah, and we all, Sunday we went out and shot our ARs and it's a clearing. Yeah, it's a

multi-level range. So you got to shoot up and down and all different levels. So, and then we critiqued what we did so that you got better and better. And it was really, really

a good amount of training. Hey, and I got something down here. It says

truck parts from China. Okay. You have a story about truck parts, right? Yeah,

so I had a, I had one of my vehicles did a little accessorizing too. Oh, yes,

exorized. Yeah, you know? And I had matchboxes with him a kid and now I have bigger toys to play with as an adult. So I was in there talking, and the guy at the counter was like, you know, you got in just in time.

And I had placed my order about three weeks ago. And he said, I'm having problems getting parts. He goes, I got a guy supposed to come in today, or this was yesterday, supposed to come in today. And he goes, I'm trying to track the parts, and they're not. We don't know when they might come in next week. We don't know. So there's start, you know, it's trickling down to even like the four-wheel drive, you know, four-by-four aftermarket parks, you know, and accessories are starting to, that's starting to dry up.

Whatever happened to J.C. Whitney, are they still? Right. Could you imagine that? I remember that as a kid, man. That stuff was awesome. Yeah. So I have a story like that too. So one in the Home Depot and every one of their appliances has us. a paper stuck on it. So I go over to see what the paper is, you know, and it says, not available at this time. So there's,

and it was on every appliance, every one. Now they had some that were out in the aisle that were clearance like last year's model, you know, scratch and dent. But that was the only thing that you could actually buy

at our Home Depot here in Winchester, Virginia. How were the prices? Was the scratch and dent marked down? The scratch and dent were marked down. Hey, and speaking of prices, have you noticed the price on just about everything is going up? Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Food is outrageous. Now, gas is not going up, so that can't be the reason, you know. I haven't bought gas. I mean... I know. Gas is still under two bucks a gallon here. In whatever, whatever since March, I've only put like one tank of gas between two cars.

Yeah. Because I just don't drive. I mean, we run over to check on family, you know, some older family members and occasionally just to, you know, check on them or give them a little care package or something. But we're not driving around town. Yeah, same here. And, you know, I practically only go to Home Depot and back. I mean, Yeah.

Hey, so I guess we better get on to the main subject, huh? Yeah, we don't want to get a old. Well, yeah. Hey, and I want to tell you to get over to Prepper Broadcasting and sign up as a member. We have an exclusive members-only side to Prepper Broadcasting. And if you sign up, you will get access to a whole bunch of videos, I have a spreadsheet that's going to go in there on bugout bags. So if you want to see what we're going to review tonight on the show,

you will be able to get a copy of this spreadsheet, but only on the members-only side. And we're going to evaluate this guy's bugout bag right here on the air later tonight. So Prepper Broadcasting Network. members only side you can sign up for a month try it out you can sign up for six months try that out the best deal is to sign up for a year and trust me you want to be in there for a year because this year is going to be so interesting and you said you had something to say about the election right oh yeah yeah well everybody's talking about yeah i mean no matter who who who

says they win. Yeah. It's going to be a fest on the other side, right? Yeah, the other side. But the wife and I were talking over lunch today, and we're like, you know, no matter how fast the returns come back, and we know they're not going to come back fast

because of all the mail-in stuff and everything else that they're talking about. But no matter how fast they come back, if you remember, like, well, some people, if you can remember, we used to be used to mail stuff back and forth, so it would take a couple days to a week or so to get information from one person to the other, right? And then it was faxes and now it's emails and texts and chats and everything. And now we get them before it's even like left your mind.

The other guy is getting the message to what you're trying to say, right? Yeah. So I think society is so like instantaneous. They need facts right away that even if it's like two-date, which we know it's going to be longer two-days. But even if it was like a two-day delay in getting the reporting back, people are going to go nuts in the streets, don't you think? Can you hear me? I can't. I muted myself.

It's definitely going to be that way because I remember when the Bush-Gore election, you know, debacle and it was Florida and the hanging chats. And the Secretary of State of Florida couldn't count. I mean, not without taking her shoes off or something. I don't know. And it went to the Supreme Court. But I want to point out a fact that it was the Democrats that contested the election. So I think a similar type of play is going to go into effect, but they're going to have a lot more

ammunition with this mail-in voting to muddy up the waters and I think that is their objective is just to muddy up the waters. They really if they could have fixed any election they would have fixed the last one

and they didn't do it so I don't think they have the power to sway it Well, now they have health concerns, public health concerns to slow it down and mess it up. Yeah, it was, it's never let it good. Yeah, catastrophe go to waste. Yep. So, and there's a lot of blue state governors out there that are going to be making their own rules.

So it's going to be pretty good. I think you do a whole show and just this. I mean, I've heard so many of the podcasts and YouTube video. channels that I watch have talked about the mail-in ballot situation. And Trump was saying, you know, he's trying to get a debate going before they actually send out the ballots because it looks like the first debate's going to be weeks, several weeks after. After people can vote.

Yeah. So there's going to be mail-in ballots already licked, stamped and put back in the mailbox, hopefully coming back. We'll know. Who knows? But before people can get the hearing. Joe come out of the basement. Well, which really isn't fair.

It just isn't right. No. I mean, no. And I remember voting absentee when I was in the military and then finding out later that they don't even crack open those unless the election is close. Close, yeah. And I'm like, holy cow, I've been voting all this time when I was in the military. And my vote never counted. You know, yeah.

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the Prepper Broadcasting Network. Wow, that last one there was pretty loud. Sorry, sorry if I blew your ears out. Okay. We are back, and I am here with Chin Gibson.

Yay, Chin. Thank you, Chin. Thank you for being here. Hey, so here's how this all started. A few weeks back, I got a, you know, came up on my feed. You might want to look at this thing, this video. So I looked at this video, and it was a guy that did precious metal things, and he talked about these two economists that really,

wrote, turn it down. I'm deaf. That's the intrepid commander in chat there. I'm sorry, sorry. I got to play with these levels a little. Anyway, here's what, I got this thing. This guy, this precious metal guy was talking about these two economists that wrote a book called The Fourth Turning. He explained that these guys had examined why the economy goes through a cycle, and that periodically we get depressions and booms and things like that. Well, when they started attaching history, looking through history and finding it, finding it out, they found a cycle, a large predictable cycle that goes back for thousands of years. But we're just going to talk about the United States tonight because we don't want to go back to the own empire or anything like that.

But everybody to sleep. Yeah. And you might think that this is a crackpot theory. But these two economists are the guys that coin money. millennial and generation X. And they wrote this book back in the 90s. Not many people took it seriously because if you remember the 90s,

dot com, boom, you know, things were great. And these guys wrote a book about, hey, things are going to be bad. Yeah, 97 it came out. Yeah, 97. So, Chin, I immediately, thought of gin. I said, who can do this justice?

And only our own Lucius Fox is the only one that I found. Sent me down this rabbit hole. Well, I said, I think I sent it to you and said, hey, do you think this is legit? And I knew the YouTube channel because I've watched them before. Oh, okay.

And yeah. I forget it now. But yeah, so I mean, I knew the channel. And he said, watch this and I just I think Samuel Culper with the Ford Observer. He had

mentioned the turnings had done a show on the turnings or talked about it in a show so you know that was like three different people like sources saying you got to read this so I said well I guess I need to go buy the book. So I made you buy the book.

Yes sir. The straw you were the straw that broke the Dang. So let me start by asking you about the premise, the premise for this idea. And it basically is generational, right? Right. Yeah. So basically they saw, they said for the most part through history, people look at time in a linear fashion. You know, like, people are born, grow up, die. Their kids are born, grow up, you know, it's just generations go one after, like a train, just one after this, just straight line. But they saw how it's more like seasonal repetition of a cycle.

So they tried to flesh that out. And it's funny how it kind of lined up with their turnings, the length of the cycle of turnings lined up with the human lifespan so every 80 to 110 years they were saying is like it goes through this turning and then that broke down into seasons so they said the cycle has four seasons and they kind of equated to like summer fall winter spring right and those ran about 20 25 years each season so a cycle will be 80 to 110 years. So that's a full cycle.

And then the seasons are about 20 to 25 years. So that's where you get generation X, Y, and Z. And then the millennials. Okay? Yep. Now the generation that's after the millennials has yet to be named. Is that correct? Millennials, yeah, I don't know what they,

They kind of, well, they kind of stop. I don't know if there is right now in, like, pop culture or whatever, but current events, if there's a name for them yet. But they, like, the book came out in 97. Right. So we're 10. Yeah. Well, and the one guy died, right?

Yeah, because we were just talking pre-show. I was like, you know, I never heard too much about the other guy. The how. So the authors are William Strauss and Neil Howe. And Howe has been on several current, like this year, last year, interviews on, like, YouTube and stuff. But I haven't seen the William Strauss. And so while we were pre-gaming, I looked it up and he died in 2007. So he passed away.

So that's why we weren't seeing him. So, do you want to go over the cycles that we're in right now, or do you want to go all the way back to the beginning? beginning and show how the cycles line up with sure so yeah so like the the the 20 year just a little background so they were saying like the 20 year um seasons yes you know like our equate like the awakening is once is the first season they equate that to like our summer where you know like it's love and all the you know everything's blossoming and everything's you know crank along. And then after summer, what comes next is fall. And that's like unraveling. They called it the unraveling. And that's, um, uh, it brings like arguments and fragmentations and uncertainty.

Uh-huh. Right. And then after fall, what comes winter? Like the cold, hard strife of winter. And that's, they call that the crisis. And then after winter, everybody's cabin fever. They're ready to get out. And it's called the high. So, And that would be equivalent to our spring. And that's when everything starts rebuilding or the new turning is coming around. Hey, do you mind if I post your notes in the chat right now? Because I'm going to try this. Now, everybody that did this chat.

Well, then I'll just sit back. Y'all just read and I'll listen. Let me know if you have any questions, right? Yeah. Don't you hate those questions in college? There'll be an open book test. Read 20 pages and come in with your questions. Geez.

Yeah, you can see how my mind works, all this highlighting and redlining. Yeah. Now, he broke down, you're not exactly through the whole book yet, right? Oh, I couldn't. I mean, since this isn't like just reading,

like, a prepper fiction novel. No. Where you could just, like, crank through it. And, well, some people will be doing it. It usually takes me a weekend to a week depending on how much time I got to sit down. This book, because I'm going so slow, because it's so intriguing to me, we only got through four chapters. I only got through just over a third of the book. And we finally said, you know, you and I had to start at least kind of sharing notes so we had something to talk about instead of me just reading because it ain't going to all just come out of my head.

Yeah. Well, and okay, so you have the four seasons, the awakening, the unruly. Yeah, the four seasons are, let me get back to that. So it's, it's the awakening, the unraveling, and then the crisis. And then the hot. So they started, they started at summer. Okay. They say summer is the awakening, fall is the unraveling, which we're kind of coming out of and we're getting into the fourth, you know, the crisis. Okay.

It did everything resets after that. So explain to us the history. Do you want to do the cycle that we're in or do you want to go back all the way to the beginning? of the United States because it lines up perfectly. Is it crazy? Yeah. So I said Dave, you know, because he brought it all the way back to like way back. He was, it parsed a book he's talking about almost like biblical times and stuff.

So I said, let's just start with the, the, the, the, uh, sick, sickle, um, gosh, I jic. Like tongue time. Yeah. So S-E-A-C-U-L-U-M. That's what he calls this collection of four turning. That's like the 80 to 100-year cycle, like the full cycle is like in calendar, you would think of a year. Like the year is a seculum.

Right. And so the United States as a country has been through two. and a half. Three. Let's see. Well, so he's kind of, yeah, he's kind of, he kind of, they changed a little bit because of

how things were going. It's not, the other thing he said, it's not like a hard science because, he said like during the Civil War, things happened a lot quicker then. That kind of messed up the whole, it still happened. Like, they still

had the first, turning the high, the awakening, the unraveling, and the crisis. They saw, but some, some happened quicker than, you know, um, you know, one, like 15 years and, and, uh, five years for the, the crisis, the civil war was a crisis during that. Yeah, during that cycle. Yeah. And I often go back to the civil war to, to think about the times that we're going

through right now because, yeah. Those people, their whole way of life was collapsing before their very eyes. And I'm sure that the people of the South, when Sherman did his march to the sea, they really thought, you know, the apocalypse was upon them. So if you just look at that. So they said, well, 1860 to 1850 was the fourth turning. the crisis turning of the Civil War cycle, right? Right.

And so they had, they have that lining up with, they had a presidential election where Southerners were trying, we're starting to get the mood of succession, and there was a trigger with the Fort Sumter. Yeah, Fort Sumter. but the actual secession started when Abraham Lincoln was elected. Elected, right, that's what I said, the presidential election. And it went back 20 years.

The abolitionists, I mean, it was going down this path for like 20 years before the firing on Fort Sumter. Right, they... Go ahead. Yeah, so they, well, they said that the whole, the whole, so that cycle they said started in 1784 right and that was the high time to feel good the error of social harmony and empire building and that's you know that's when um they were saying like we were uh settling new territories and you know canals and steamboats and turnpikes and that you know you know going out west and everything so civil disorder was rare they were seeing so that was kind of the notes that I put in for that so it went you know it followed the and then they said they had an awakening and that's when they started to see like there were some slave revolts right and that peaked in 1831 with the the

turner rebellion right yeah and um so You can see where things were starting, like the whole utopia thing is starting to... Decline. Decline, yeah. Yeah. And people were starting to feel unrest. So now, after the Civil War, we have reconstruction. Yep. And then the Industrial Revolution.

Yep. And then the roaring 20s, which, you know, it was... unbelievable prosperity for everybody. And then what happened? But then, well, they had the prohibition, right? Right. Yeah. Because the 20s seemed like, well, heck, you know, sex, drugs and rock and roll or whatever.

What was the big band and stuff? It wasn't rock and roll, but it was different music. But yeah, so that kind of got shut down with prohibition. Yeah, but it just was. went underground. Yeah. I mean, bootlegging,

you know. Just speak easy about this topic. Oh, yeah. So, so after that came the Great Depression. Yep. Which

worldwide economic collapse. And, you know, an interesting thing, and I thought of this just before the show, um, there was a psychologist

that was teaching us. Actually, it was through a video. when I was the trooper, and they were trying to teach us how to communicate with people. And he broke it down like this. He said, you are what you are because of who you were when.

Yes. And that was another part. Did you see my notes about that? Yes. And that is so true because people that lived through the Great Depression, my first father-in-law, he did not trust banks. I mean, he did. Who does?

Well, you shouldn't trust him nowadays, but I mean, growing up, you know, I got married in 70. Got the toaster, right? Exactly. He didn't put all his money in the bank. He put enough money in the bank to write a check or something like that. He kept his money in the house. my mom would save breadbags, the plastic breadbags. And it made an indelible impression on these people that lasted an entire lifetime.

Well, that's what they called. So the book calls that markers, right? Yeah. So the markers leave, like you said, lifelong impressions on a person. And it depends. It's different for every person depending on what. age that marker is set into their memory, right? So a child might have a different, you know, it might create a different marker on a child, a different memory on a child. And then as we age,

how we deal with situations in our future, we pull off of our past experiences, right? Yes, exactly. So that's how, that's kind of like you say, it's a cycle. It just repeats, but it's not a perfect Xerox copy of itself because as each generation is at a different point in their lifespan, when a marker hits, it will create a celestial, what they call like the generational, the way the generations are stacked at a certain time. Yeah. It's like a celestial pattern. and so that that'll affect how like society as a collective reacts to events you know what I mean yeah well now let's talk about what we're seeing right now and what they predicted in the book

for us to see right now because you sent me that page let me see if I can find it it was like holy cow uh I mean I mean, they predicted the pandemic, you know, which is pretty unbelievable. What else did they predict? Well, I mean, they were saying that with the cycles, so they were saying, okay, so the current, the current sloughluom, that word that I can't pronounce, that we're in right now is called the millennium, right? So we had like the revolutionary one for the American Revolution when we were founded, then the Civil War, and then the great powers when like America was like the great power in the world, right?

Right. And then now we're in the millennium, millennial. And we are currently, they were predicting between 2005 and 2025 and 26 was going to be the fourth. turning, hence the name of the book, was going to be the fourth turning of the millennial selequilome. Yeah. And so this, we are currently well into, because 26, they were, you know, they thought would be the end of this fourth turning.

So that's six years away, right? Yeah. So that's, if you follow along with this and you believe in it, that's why we're seeing so much crazy going on right now because we're deep in the heart of this fourth turning we're in the winter right yeah so everything's starting to get tough and they they predicted the pandemic the riots this the civil unrest and this was back in the 90s and then there was something else that caught my mind and i'm trying to think it wasn't the super tsunami or the hurricane.

It was something else, but it was like a major natural disaster. I'm like, how does our generation create a natural disaster like that? But you had pointed out that all the stuff that's happened, you know, Katrina and the revolt that they had because, you know, Bush didn't do enough. And Bush died and people died. I mean, the book, the book was. published in 97. So really this current cycle that we're in, they were just projecting. So I, after I stopped reading and I started just kind of like researching, I went

through the years where they kind of stopped. Like I started 2005 through, and I just tried to post a whole bunch of major events per year. So like 2005 was Katrina well, the Bush W's second term. But so I just trying, yeah, like the Spanish flu was in 2005.

Yeah. There was a Spanish virus. Yep. Yep. The avian flu, right? So we have had a flu. Avian flu has already come around, but it was a lot different as I recall. Hey, Lack has a question.

And the Intrepid commander, how long does winter last and when is spring coming well now this is according to the book 20 to 25 years 20 to 25 years so and they're thinking that the current the winter started in 2005ish so we're so we got about 2030 yeah so 2030 2035 so we're like well well 2020 2020 would be uh 20 25 would be 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 25 would be 20 years, right? Okay. So they were predicting roughly at 2026-ish is kind of be the end, and then we'll head into springtime and everything's going to be hunky-dory.

And they say not every cycle ends, like, every cycle ends with the Revolutionary War or the Civil War or World War II. But those cycles all ended in the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, the Civil War. True. true. When you look at it that way, so this cycle is going to end with a war. It kind of seems like

if you look at that spreadsheet of patterns that I put out for you. Yeah. How long? 20. Well, and I can see things shaping up China that war. You know?

You could poor James just throwing up in a bucket. Oh my gosh. This is a really cheery episode here. This is really... Yeah, so this is interesting, too. So, like, the whole, like, how generations react.

Let me post this. Let me grab this and throw us. How generations react to stuff. Profit here, this is profit. Okay, he's putting it in a chat room now. So everybody in chat, come in. Copy. Hey, and I want to...

I want to switch gears then. Oh, look at that. So that shows you, so. I love this new chat. The generations, yeah, the generations, don't think a generation is like the millennium, generation, extra generation. This is what, like, the adults is one generation, you know, the, so this shows you, that that, that's the combination of generations inside of a turning. So he says you'll have a profit. generation, a nomad generation, a hero generation, and an artist generation.

And typically each generation, he showed some examples like Ben Franklin, Lincoln, FDR, were all profit generations. And they were like visionaries, they had, you know, they had set values. So protective as they are indulgent kids. indulged as kids and they were protective parents. So you can see how the collection of generations are built. Yeah. And depending on the markers and how they, when they happen, what generation, like, what generation was an adult? Yeah.

So the tribut commander says, tomorrow his son's turned in. nine and I'll be in such a good mood. But think of it this way. The things that are happening right now is shaping your son to be the man that he's going to be in the future. So whereas I think he's going to be a prepper myself, I think so. Sam B is in the PBM chat room. She don't know we're in the new chat.

we'll have to get her pulled over. I'm loving this new chat. It's kind of interesting. As you get deep into this book, you kind of see at the patterns. Like the adult, depending on what the adult is, what phase of life the adult is in, you know, were they born, you know, a nomad,

where they, you know, they move around, were they born an artist, you know, Then what's Trump? Is Trump one of the heroes? He's sure not the prophet. Right. So where is, so elderhood, right? Is he a boomer?

Is he older than a boomer? Oh, he's old. He's, no way, he'd be in the boomer. He'd be, I think he's in the boomer. Yeah. That was the, so another side note that they said is we're getting longer lifespans. Yes. So it's almost like there's not.

four. You know, it's not the prophet, the nomad, the hero, and the artist. There's almost like a new, like advanced elder, you know? Yeah. Like a senior generation that's going to have to be worked into this because

we were just saying, you know, where is Trump? Because did he make the boomer or is he pre-bumer? But anyway, so they're putting the boomer as a profit and the profit would be examples of like Ben Franklin, Lincoln, and FDR.

So it's almost like if you look at it that way, presidents that were taking on big social work projects, right? Or trying to pull things together, right? Well, you know, when you look at the Great Depression, a lot of people say that World War II brought us out of the Great Depression.

So, I'm wondering what the war will be that will bring us out of this. Right. Yeah. Hey, so let's shift gears now and go to the bugout bag. Let's see if I can stick this in the chat room. We are blowing up the internet. We are, yes. Gen X.

I am Gen X. he goes over the generations and what they're called and what they're named right in the book he does a little chart so yeah can you pull that up and see what time span each one is let's see let me go back through my notes yeah i think lucky's typing it in right now he always pulls it out I'm going to try and find the spreadsheets. Okay, here we go, here we go. Oh, that's your spreadsheet. And I'm going to stick them in the chat room.

And James, you can put these in the members-only side. These are examples of bug-out bags and bug-out vehicles. A friend of mine asked me to look this over, and he said, give me your input. So I thought, wow, we could do this on the show tonight. And he said, okay. So we can put these in the members-only side as examples of bugout bags.

And I think he did a really good job. Chin and I only have a couple changes that we would make. Trump was born in 14. So he's a war, maybe. So he did not. He's, yeah. So that puts us. He's about, wait a minute, 46 was the beginning of the baby boomers.

The very beginning. So I don't know. Sure. Let me see the other notes. So not my tight notes, but those other notes that I sent you earlier in the week is probably where that's all. Let me see here. You work on the spreadsheet and I'll pull up the... Oh, okay.

I'm sticking this in the chat room right now. Open up my turning folder. A lot of dead air here. There we go. Open this up. Upload. Okay, man, look at that. Pop right in there.

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43 to 60 was the when did they say Trump was 46 yeah so he's a early boomer

yeah and that falls into the prophet which we were just talking no we're not saying prophets are like prophets you know from the Bible

telling the future they're just saying that's the archetype that I don't know if personality is the right word for it but

yeah Hey, so we're looking at the spreadsheets now. Jen says she can see both of them, which is good. Nice. Yeah. So we have, which one do you want to start first? I was impressed with these bugout bags. First of all, he has multiple bug out bags.

He has a, like a daily carry bag and then a, like, a patrol bag, I guess. Yeah, that was a. Yeah. That's one that I really don't have. So his daily carry bag is 13 pounds, and his patrol bag is 21 pounds. And he has got a lot of stuff in this bag. Let me read to you some of the stuff that he's got in here. 100 feet of parachute cord, hand warmers, waterproof matches, strike lighter, you know, fire stick, smoke signal, some kind of a smoke signal thing. pen, paper, lip bomb.

Oh, there's compass, matches, and whistle. You said about a compass. He has a compass in this bag. Good. Multi-knife with a compass. So, there's two compasses. Tactical flashlight. Hand-opener.

Now, okay. And this is for the patrol bag? Yeah, that's his patrol. bag. Now his daily carry bag has a sog multi-tool 10 feet of parachute cord a boony hat first aid kit

too many tourniquets in there. Okay I'm seeing a lot of good stuff there. You know when I'm not seeing them. The day bag is that like his commute to working back or drive into town and back bag?

Yeah, that's what I would take that as. Yeah. Now, you know, what I'm not seeing is a water as stick. Let me see a life straw. I don't see a life straw in this one. I saw a life straw in the Daily Bag. And he had water purification tablets, I think. Oh, okay.

I see the water purification. It's a 24 pack. There's the Life Straw. Okay. What about a container for your water? You know, you'd want to have... He had a Nalgin bottle, which I had commented that I might do a metal bottle. Yeah.

Because then you could use it to purify water over a fire. Exactly. You could cook in it or heat it up. Yeah. Or at least have one of those metal cups that the Nelgin bottle nestles into. Yeah. Oh, I didn't go down far enough. He has another bag.

Is this a different bag? 21 pounds. Now, this one has N95. Yeah. He had like side pockets and interior pockets. Oh, I see. That's a main pouch. Yeah.

It's listed as a main pouch. So this is what he has in the main pouch. And he only has one N95, one set of gloves. Yeah, I'd probably put more than that in there. There he has another tourniquet. Well, the other thing is it could be seasonal. Because during the summer in the mid-Atlantic states would be a different loadout than in the winter of the mid-Atlantic states, right?

Yeah, because, you know, neck cover. He's got a neck cover here. You know, a scarf-like thing. Blue plastic bag. Interesting. Maybe that would be like he's a poncho You were saying Pancho or tar

Yeah, I would definitely put a Pacho in there Yeah Because you could use it for either For rain gear For camouflage Or for... Do you see this binoculars? He's got sterner binoculars

Shit That's got to be like a $400 pair of binoculars Well you can send him up on the ridge To Spot for you Exactly And then in his second bag there He has an MRE in the left and the right pocket, which is great.

They're about 3,000 calories. They're heavy and dense in calories. And boy, in a stressful situation, you pop one of them out and you're like, yeah. So that's good. Okay, so let me see if I can, where's the... You want to do the vehicle? So I need... Okay, I need a bigger monitor.

Yes, size does matter. It does. Upload. Okay, I just save that as a PDF so maybe you can look at it now. Oh, okay. And I'll go grab the other one. The other one is a vehicle bag.

No, I assume this is a lot bigger. No, it's only 18 pounds. Save. Hmm. Open. PDF Okay, he has two pockets in this one says front pocket one says main pocket Yeah, let's get this tip ties 50 feet of power cord 10 feet of power cord

Flashlight with batteries Another multi-tool I'm a big fan of multi-tools and knives and knife, emergency survival blanket, which is great, especially for the car. I heard of a gentleman saved another guy's life when there was a car wreck. He witnessed the car wreck. The guy was impaled, so he had like a sunken chest wound. And he couldn't breathe, so he took a space blanket, covered the hole with it, and his lungs were able to. seal.

Yeah. So he's lungs were able to inflate. Nice. Yeah. I mean, they're air, you know, waterproof,

airproof, and they reflect heat. They're really, really handy. Light. They're very light. You can stick them anywhere.

So what do you see in this bag that you might, uh, he doesn't have a complex in this? Oh, and I had changed out. So I, I mean,

I know this is like the whole Ford Chevy thing, but I was thinking that the life straw might have been better served as the Sawyer, like a Sawyer Mini. Yeah. Because there's a couple different Sawyer types, but they, one, you can actually screw on the top of a water bottle, or you can, they have like a collapsible plastic bag thing. You can fill the bag of water, you screw the Sawyer on top and then you squeeze it out. Yeah.

Yeah. So I think that the sores are much more multitasking than the Lifestraw. Oh, yeah. I mean, I have Life Straws. I bought them when I first started this whole crazy thing. Yeah. But I've since switched to Sawyers. Yeah, because Life Straws were everywhere.

Yeah, they were like the thing, right? They were the thing. And then as I kind of learned more. So, I mean, I still have them. They're good. They're like backups to backups. Exactly. I think if somebody were to ask me, I would suggest something in the vein of sort.

You can even put them in your hydration bags. They have attachments so you can put them in the line. In the line of the hydrogen bag. Yeah, so you would just fill up your bag up and then you just have to drink out of the straw and it automatically gets filters on its way through, which I think is a great idea. So I think they're multi-talented, a little better. and they're about the same price. Yeah.

And then he has a one-liter bottle here with the life straw in it. Now, you had suggested a slingshot. Oh, yeah, a slingshot. Yeah. Well, now, I also know that this person carries 24-7. Yeah, well, that's good, too. Yeah, but a slingshot. There might be a time when you don't want to have the report.

So, and it could be used for all, it could be used for signaling, it could be used to shoot, like you could tie a piece of line onto an object and shoot it over a branch if you're trying to, like for comms, there was another thing missing. But for comms, you could run a makeshift antenna up a tree by shooting a piece of fishing line over a branch and then hauling it your antenna up. Exactly. So there's a lot of uses, hit a squirrel. Yeah. If you're bored, you can hit Dave in the head while you. you're all sitting on the around the camp.

Yeah. Hey, so you said that he doesn't have any comms gear. He doesn't. But he's not a, he doesn't have anybody to talk to. But comms are not always two-way. Correct. You would want some kind of way to get information.

Yes. Yes. Absolutely. So some kind of a radio. You know, in the movies, when the good guy is like behind enemy lines and he picks up a walkie-talkie from one

of the guys that he knocked out. And then he can listen to everything that's going on. Exactly. And there was one other thing that you had mentioned. You put in here travel money. And I would put travel money slash barter material. Whatever.

Well, when I was traveling the Middle East, okay I had kind of a go-to bag everybody had

their own little bag okay so but one of the things I did was

you remember 35 millimeter film yeah yeah the plastic yeah

with a great top I filled those up with silver okay silver round

okay and I also had gold quarter ounce gold they were little eagles, you know,

around's gold. Gold was a lot cheaper back that too. And I carried those in a special pocket in this bag, and I figured if I couldn't offer them anything else, gold or silver was pretty much universal. They'd understand that, you know. So just the thing, something to barter with, something that you're willing to get.

up to someone else that may, you know, maybe even a bribe, you know, you might have to bribe someone. Get out of jail coupon. Get out of jail free card. Yeah. Just an idea. Just an idea. Another thing that I didn't see and I didn't think of before I turned back, again, and it's seasonal. So like in the winter, you might want the hand warmers and the foot warmers and the lip chap lip stuff. But in the summer, you might want bug screens or bug spray and sunscreens. Yeah. So it's almost, that's the stage that I'm in right now is how do I make seasonal kits, interchangeable seasonal kits that go in and out of my bag.

Well, if you have a Mali system, you can put an outside pocket on for your seasonal change. Yeah. And the same thing for clothing, too. You're going to have different. Yeah. You're going to have to have. But, dude, I wear long sleeve all the time. I can't stand the sun.

It gives me sun poison. Ever since I've been in the Middle East. Yeah. I look like an Amish guy. Okay. Because I have the big black for him a hat on, you know, long sleeves and long pants. And people look at me and say, aren't you hot? And I say, hell yes, I'm hot.

but I have no choice. But I'm conscious. Yeah. Well, Chin, I think we pretty much beat this horse dead. Anybody in the chat room have any additions or deletions from the bags that we were looking at, a vehicle bag, and he had three other bags. Yeah.

He just had a clearance seal on bags. Maybe. They had to fill them all up. But, you know, he's a single guy, so he's not looking out for anybody else in his family. Or he doesn't have a governor to slow him down. Like we do. Yeah. Control rod.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, let's see if I can delete. Oh, I hope I didn't. Are you still there?

I'm here. Okay, good. You have to try harder to get rid of me. Well, Chin, thank you so much for making this show even possible because there's no way I could have read the book with a warden on my ass 24-7. It's my pleasure. And everybody listening should really pick up a copy of the book and give it a read. Yeah.

It's good. material to get you thinking outside of the box yes and let you know what's common I mean yeah we it doesn't tell you you're not going to like know it's not a prophecy book but it's it tells it said like part of the book it said

our whole goal here is to teach you how to look at current and past events to help you deal with future events it's like that's all that's their goal it's not to tell you what the future's going to be, but kind of how to deal with it. Do you think we go through these cycles because people forget history? And they just, it just naturally just goes away. Well, people don't want to think about history.

They think about it as a timeline, like I said in the opening. They think it as a straight line. Yeah. But it's actually a circle. What comes around goes around, right? Yeah, exactly. Well, ladies and gentlemen out there in radio listening land, I appreciate you tuning in tonight or downloading at a future date,

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Very modest. We wouldn't be where we were if it wasn't for Chin because he's the tech guy for sure. Oh, listen at you. Hey, we'll take care of everybody. And remember, prep on. The Prepper Broadcasting Network.