The Prepper Broadcasting Network - ICFA Conflicted Show Roundtable

Episode Date: May 1, 2025

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It came from the archives. This is like a throwback Preppers Live with this kind of a loadout we got tonight too. This is good. This is the Conflicted Show. We've been talking about it. I don't remember who came up with the idea. Somebody. Probably somebody on tonight. Might have been Dave Jones.

I can't quite remember. But Dane Dee in the past has done conflicted shows with Miles from Archangel Dynamics. They're a whole lot of fun. Thought it'd be a good idea maybe to get everybody on. As many of us as we could muster and have fun with it. So tonight we got Ryan with us from The Next Generation, we got Dave Jones the NBC guy, we got Aiden Tate with us for his first live appearance on the Prepper Broadcasting Network isn't it? I didn't even think of that. We have and we got Jordan. Jordan. MIA. Back for a bit of Preppers Live. I feel like a little bit of a drug dealer because I think dragging her back into it is going to get her hooked once again. But

we'll see. So I want to, I was going to go around and do a do around, you know, introduction, but I think I'd rather just say what's up to all you guys. How is everyone doing out there in your part of the world? We're leaning heavily Virginian right now, I guess, but we've got some representation from other places. So what has happened in the Pacific Northwest, Ryan? How are things? Well, things are good up here I've been

doing. I've actually been scoring big time on firewood I've been able to snag a couple of cords of maple and elm free Free. Oh, yeah, you know pick it up or what? What's the catch? The cost is I have to go pick it up and hauler. Well, I think too bad but the the bug out vehicle is getting its its stripes But you know, we're getting this wood will probably be good for next year and then kind of stockpiling other stuff here and there and just kind of

plugging away getting getting ready for the next round of K.O. What comes next right? Yep, Dave Jones, what's happening your neck of the woods man? How are you? Well, I'm doing great. Can you hear me? I can hear you Well, I just got back from that trip to Ohio. Yeah content by the way Well, thanks. I had there was a lot of great preppers there. I'm telling you they are hungry for this knowledge and they did different stuff. They got the local fire department to do pancake breakfast, which was really great. And then the police auxiliary had a food truck there so they were able to raise some money.

Local bands came in and played Friday and Saturday night. It was very nice. Very nice time. Great time. Oh, okay. Well, that sounds like a good time. Yep. And Maria was here taking care of the goats. Mom has still not given birth so I know

they're gonna be big big they're gonna come out fully grown right all right cool So Jordan, welcome back. Hello. Glad to have you. I actually was supposed to be up in Ohio this weekend with Dave and everyone but you know unfortunately due to some other circumstances I wasn't able to make it but I have to Tara that and Like if I do this I do this I can put some But you know, it's lately even though I haven't been on the Podcast frequently with everything going on on my end. I have been pushing the network like crazy just to people Who randomly talk to you and I'm like, you know what? Let's not listen to us listen to us this PBN's proper broadcasting network is what you want You know, that's where it's at. So Dave says people are starved for it

So I think you're doing a service now people right now now is the time where people are less It's funny is even though we may have a stigma to a certain level of people Yeah, they're not as close-minded. Yeah, they are not as close-minded Yeah, they're not as close-minded. Yeah, they are not as close-minded They want to learn they want and they they get curious. So it's kind of nice when someone hears Oh, you didn't have to shop the first six months of COVID or wait, you know how to can or you know how you know I mean, it's like there are people out here. This is a lifestyle. We make it work. Oh I love it. So we got the last American with us live for his first live appearance here at the Prepper Broadcasting Network. Aiden Tate, what is up, man? How are you?

Hey, doing alright. I am glad to hear it. Glad to hear it. People are digging the show, man. Thanks. Appreciate it. If you got a chance to listen to Dave's Dave's interviews there was a couple people who mentioned the new show one woman who I really we got the best compliment to date actually by one of those ladies Dave do you remember what it was you probably know what I'm thinking of I remember talking to her but what was the compliment?

She listens to us to fall asleep at night. I was the other man that whispers in her ear while she's laying next to her. And she said she couldn't wait to tell the old man that. That was the scary part. We got another great compliment too. Oh man, I can't remember. I didn't watch X-Files growing up. I actually had to look this up. Let me see what Carl B's wife called us. Yes, we were the lone gunmen. That's it. Yeah, the lone gunmen from the X-Files. They did a short-lived spin-off show too

oh did they really yeah I didn't watch it too much I was big into aliens back in those days but I was pretty young I must have been distracted by something but so if you guys are ready I want to get into these things man I think I think we're gonna have some interesting things to talk about with these scenarios and I like to get everybody's take on them. Now with things like this, since we have such a good group tonight, if... oh no I just archived all of them... if we run into a situation where it looks like everybody's kind of got the same answer we can just pass on it. I don't know how dynamic these

questions are because I haven't really read a lot of them because I wanted to be surprised tonight because you know you want you want to have that authenticity so without further ado we'll get started I'll read off the question and then I'll just aim and shoot at somebody and we'll we'll see how it goes I'm gonna go for this one because it looks big a lot of words thank you for this by the way Aiden you saved the day on this this was uh I'd have been out shopping today if it weren't for the martial law has been declared and police and military are going house to house... oh boy... house to house looking for food

water and other supplies to confiscate. I'm already... I already lost this round time scared. Your supplies are well hidden and would not be found through normal questioning and searching procedures. However, the official coming to your house is a relative and Knows what you have. Oh God, he informs you that It is his duty to take your supplies or arrest you and your family How is This how they are. How is your how no, I'm sorry. How would you address this situation? Go ahead well go ahead Dave Jones since you're the man with the with the military connections

you might run into a situation like this in real life some guy you know or knew it is kind of funny because just recently I have been thinking about doing some cashes. Mm-hmm. And I have these like tough boxes. Yeah. Military grade. These guys bought them surplus and I got them for like 15 bucks. This was a while back and I was going to build like a battery pack with them.

But now since they're waterproof and everything I can store just enough of each Thing that you would need if you're running out of the house sure You're in a great spot for cashing too man Yeah, like cashing on the side of a mountain Yep, I'm gonna pull one up the hill and one down the hill so Wow wow one up the hill and one down the hill. So, wow, wow. You would want to do anything but get arrested.

So I would say, give him your, you shouldn't have all your stuff in one place anyways. Give him your fake stash. Right. And if he knows you have other stuff And I don't know that's right That's a toughie. That's conflict immediately with with short-term notice

What about you Ryan you're up there on the homestead? They come a-knockin you know who the person is and they say they they either gotta take it or you're going with that you're coming with me. Well I kind of would assume that they'd probably be with someone who like a partner or a posse or something like that so I'd have to at least make a show of it. I'd probably side with Dave to some extent and give them you know, what's in the pantry, you know What you know because I keep my not in the okay So I've got a back room and then that's kind of like a panic room sort of But it's got food and supplies and stuff in it

But then I've got a pantry, you know where I keep all my food and stuff and the cabinets in the kitchen, right? Where do you like where there are those great shelves you built is which room are they in there? That's that was a cool project. Those are kind of in the panic room slash pantry area nice What several other supplies? but I think I would probably just make sure that they had access to the Cabinets and open up to all the kitchen cabinets and be like, okay, here you go You know take what you need but I think I would pull my family member aside while all of his buddies were hauling away all my stuff and

Find out pipe bomb in the tailpipe Try and find out what they're running low on and be like, okay, if you've got 10 million boxes of top ramen, that's one thing, but if you don't have any vitamin C or other types of things, then what are they running shy on? So I can get a line on what's going to be valuable to people in the near in the very near future. So I think I'd probably run that game and then use my fat like leverage my family member in that situation because I mean, we we've got a code, you know, so even if he knows what I have, we still have a code. Right. I think I think I'd be safe to to give away what's visibly present and

Shy away from the rest. So what you're saying when you say your family member, you're not talking about Colin You're talking about the relationship between you and the guy at the door Correct. Yeah, like my brother you'd be given like a wink wink and he would know that meant I'm gonna give you everything that they Are gonna think I have and okay I got you I like that that's good thinking that's good thinking all right Jordan what do you think officials at the door oh you know them first off nobody knows my full stash. Nobody. You only see what I let you see. I know that sounds horrible, but even family members, even my former partner did not know the full extent of my preps. I like it. I like it.

And it's not because that's tried to be ugly, but it's almost a level of deniable accountability. Yeah, sure. So for me it would be one of those instances if for some reason they did know maybe not the full extent but a further extent then there's a good chance that they are involved and that they hold part of my stash itself because I'm one of those who spreads some of my additional stash not my full stache at other people's houses as well I Like it. That's a great practice by the way So it's one of those well if you're implicate me

Then I'm gonna let it slip just how much you actually have sitting at your house, too. That is a great Yeah, I'm not saying two wrongs make a right but but in this instance, if I'm going down, you're going down too. There you go. But I'm still going to make it out alive. So I have what I call my active pantry, I have what my reserve, and then my backup stash not including the additional. They can have what they can see.

They can have what they can find. That's fine. But if the person does hold part of my stash, they're going down with my stash as well so You've got to make it realizes if these people are willing to sacrifice you then there's a good chance They're not willing to hand over theirs No, I like so the evil person to me is gonna be if you're gonna take me out I'm gonna take you out too, but I'm still gonna have my head above water. You just don't know it

You bring up an important point about That and you don't read a lot about it, but about that stash in another person's house Because you may not be able to afford a bug out location House because you may not be able to afford a bug out location You may not even have a like a bunch of cool PVC pipe that you're gonna stash stuff in or have the ability to cash and but you always got somebody, you know I shared pantry today. It's like everybody contributes and it within those three other houses You each have No, I love it. Aiden, did we beat this one to death? Do you have anything to add? We've got a lot of good answers. Yeah, I mean, I think it's safe to assume it's not just that one family member showing up at your front door.

If it was just one dude, it's probably a different story, but you're probably talking about a big old truck with lots of things. Sure, they've got to put it in something, right? No, I Said I meant it is theft. It's straight up you're being stolen from for sure and I think that needs to be a Cause for anger to begin with so we're gonna end up in an argument But I don't want to get hauled away on a truck either because if it's just the one person You yourself at the front door. Yeah, and you got a truck full of guys right there I mean you ain't gonna be able to do nothing and live. Bad situation right?

Yeah I would say you gotta let them see what they can see but make a fuss the whole stinking time so they want to get out of there as quick as possible I mean I don't I mean I think that's a good idea I think having your stuff in different places is a great idea and you can you can see a little but you ain't seeing it all that's it you're gonna hear about it I think that hearing about a thing is important people don't want to deal with it Let's move on to the next house. This guy won't shut up. That's a good one. That's a good one I think I'd look for if I know I'm so well and their family and I can't turn them in With a code a la Ryan Buford

I'd probably I'd probably ask to have a word with them in private and tell them that I would tell their wife or someone they love all the nasty things I know about them. And maybe try to leverage a little blackmail if they were being too harsh, you know? Because if it's your family, then you know all the juicy stuff. And you are talking about a family member that's turning you over that's completely selling you out. Exactly so you might have to turn some turn something loose on them also to try to divert it but... Yeah if they're willing to do that to you they're worthless to you. There you go. So they're done they're

dead to me. That's it. I thinking of maybe, you know bringing them in offering some coffee and poison their whole asses Look at all this we got now There's a reason why we prep we never put all of our eggs in one basket Yeah, and if their family and they don't know that Worst off is if're family and they don't know that, worst off is if they're family and they know that, they should also know what we are and what we're not capable of. So the fact that they were careless enough to think they could push someone, that was their first mistake.

Yeah, stumbled into the black widow's web, huh, Jay Ferg? All right, cool. I had to get off topic. That made me think of a shirt. And y'all are going to appreciate this. It says it's only murder if they find a body. Elsewise, it's a missing person. Oh, boy.

Come here, I have something to show you. We do need to get that prepared for your family, not your fantasy shirt done, though. That's for sure. Yes, we do need that. All right, let's move on to another one here we go let's spin the magic message I will go for a shorter one here let's see what this is all about what would you do if someone you were fighting and surviving alongside with decided to simply give up Leave you and everyone behind to go away on their own

Wow That's an interesting one. Let's uh Let's go right with Aiden on this one. So you've been fighting and surviving Alongside this person since I guess everything started to fall apart and they burn out or they crack or whatever it is And they say they're just leaving to go away on their own What do you do? Out into the woods. Yeah. Yeah, there you go. Just like that. Oh is Shoot what's that movie the road? Yeah, but that's what they said. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah

So what I would I certainly try to talk them out of it like I'm not gonna just not do anything I'll try to to reason with them and tell them I think it's a foolish decision but if that's what you want to do go for it at the end of the day I'm not holding you back okay all right I like that give them the freedom of choice just like our great president Joe Biden. Either you take the shot or you wear a mask for perpetuity. No, I like that. That's a good one.

All right. What about you, Dave? Don't forget, you know, this guy, he knows some stuff, right? You've been fighting and bleeding and surviving alongside this person. So you've got to have a little confidence that they are going to go away and stay away. Maybe not come back when you're not looking to take some important shit. Yeah, that would be really, really tough. Really tough. I definitely outfit them. You know, I give them the stuff that they need to get out there and survive

I mean if that was their goal instead of to just walk off in the snow and die Yeah, but I oh Man no, no No, I I would at the end of the day you got to let them go I mean There's When I worked at the joint personal effects depot We got about one a week Self-inflicted

These people We got about one person a week was a self-inflicted. Okay. What, you know, you have live ammo, you have grenades, you're, you're fighting in combat and some people can't handle the stress. So they kill themselves. Oh, self-inflicted. Okay.

I get it. Yeah, and you know, whether they showed signs or not, but it's one of those things that you, when someone makes up their mind, we had a suicide. side. This guy in the barracks hung himself. And the first thing he used was a rope that we have on shelter halves. And it was a little cotton rope and it broke. And you would think after that you'd say, damn, that hurt. I'm not doing that again. But he tried again and he used his belt from his raincoat and that worked. Yeah, I know. So it's one of those things where do you really want a suicidal person with you? That's got your back. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

So you got to let them go. You I mean, you you try and talk to them. And if they're gonna go, you outfit them with whatever they need, you wish them well and and you let them go. Man. That's dark. What do you think Ryan Buford? What do you think Ryan Buford stepping What do you think Ryan Buford? Stepping away, running away from the group. They've been with you since the beginning and now they want to give up and leave you and everyone behind to go away on their own. Well it's kind of weird because I've been faced with this situation but in a different way I guess you could say. I spent a lot of time on the road working

with a group of guys, and there was more times than I can count where as a unit, we, you know, somebody would fall off. You know, you'd have someone who, you know, would miss their kid's first steps because they were away from home, or, you know, their wife decided to, you know, step out on them while they were away from or you know their wife decided to you know step out on them while they were away working for their family or you know some some sort of holiday or birthday

party got missed and you know guys feeling like no way there's I can't do this anymore but But there is something to be said about a unit and kind of the band of brothers side of things, if that makes sense, to where you realize that you to rally and come back together and realize that we were all in it together. And we were able to keep going and pressing forward and moving on and growing and becoming a better unit because of that. Because we realized that we were struggling and we were struggling together, if that makes sense. Yeah. And doing that, it actually created bonds that went way beyond anything that I would ever consider of a coworker. You know what I mean?

And it's not like, I mean, we're not talking anything weird. I'm just saying, you know, it's real. It exists. And if someone like Dave mentioned, if they've committed to leaving and they've left, there's nothing you can do mentally or otherwise. But if there's a moment when you have the opportunity to bring that person back, there's an extreme value in that because when you are suffering or you're struggling because of your own personal stuff, you've lost hope. And sometimes it takes the unit to be able to bring that hope back so that you can all

return successfully no matter what it is. So I'd say make him you know see what you can do to capture that moment and save that soul essentially before they bail out on you. Hmm yeah yeah I mean it's weird because you you do have that kind of built-in responsibility right? I mean if you if you choose to or maybe if you don't choose to you still got to deal with it. You still got to deal with it mentally even if you think you're not gonna deal with it. What about you Jay Fergie? Somebody's out they want to leave they know everything but they were they're done they're ready to give up

it's too been too hard on them and they want to shove off on their own to either die start over Just see what happens roll the dice of fate Right Usually when people take a gamble like that there they really have lost their dog in the fight that or They find where they're at is not grown in the way it should Kind of like Ryan said though in a group, you know It's it's joining together trying to see if this person is just depressed or distraught kind of like they said, you know

I work in mental health if If you know sometimes you can get them that little bit of spirits But if they are that low and they are that set on Whether it be taking the long road or doing like most animals in nature do where they wander off to die on their own Because they don't want to drag the rest of the group down There's nothing you can do about it all you can then do is damage control and what you can do to strengthen and

Secure the group around you because if this person has that much of an impact then you know, it's gonna pull several other people Down as well. And so your whole growth whole whole situation is damage control Okay, what can I do to live in spirits? How can I express this? How can we communicate to say hey? This man or woman was set on doing what they were doing and it was more than obvious that none of us could change their minds even after having tried So if they're set out on a suicide mission the only thing you can do say, I love you brother I'm praying for you if you change your mind. We're still here, but elsewise ultimately You got to let him go. You can't force someone to stay and be a prisoner

No, I mean it's it's kind of like with medical care or anything kind of like the old saying you can lead a horse to water But you can't make a drink. I Can't I can't make someone become in spirits if they have lost all hope So all I can do is try to fix myself and my group and make sure I lose nobody else and try to strengthen our foundation or Be able to see the signs before it happens again Well, that's good use it as a learning opportunity You know suicide is probably gonna take man in a real in a real breakdown you know a real SHTF

showdown. I wonder what the percentage of so I mean we live in ecstasy almost perpetually. It's going to be a very, very high percentage. It already is. It is, but even higher. Just for example, out of me and my siblings, four of us, well, four I'll say closest, there is actually quite a few more of us, one of the three girls has already said that she would opt out. Yeah, I'm sure

No, no, she's made it clear if things ever went bad. She would opt out and her husband just like no I can Mob out of Walmart and feed you and she goes that's not gonna work and I don't have the mental capacity to stay So it's sad is when someone who knows that they don't have the mental capacity. That's scary, man. But I think a lot of people will be faced with that. You know, they would have to sit down. Go ahead, Aiden. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I said you got a bit of a taste of that throughout 2020. Where what was it within three months within California, the suicide rate was over a year's worth already.

Is that real? Jesus. It was, those numbers were something akin to that, yeah. Man. Well, you live in California, I feel like you're looking for a reason out anyway. You know what I mean? That's not right. Yeah, that's going to be a big one.

I mean, like I said, we live in paradise and people kill themselves all the time for some reason Imagine what it would be like if it was hellfire and brimstone everywhere So let's move on. I like it. I can't add anything to that. You guys did a great job What I just beg them and plea and you know Try to hook them up as best I can try to find out what their true intention is I guess you know it like If you want to go off and do your own thing and live then I'd give them some things to be prepared sort of a la Dave Jones

Off theirself the last thing you need to do is lose any resources or gears You already have yeah, like if it was that I'd say take the you know the 22 revolver and go 200 paces so I can come retrieve it when you're done and then You know what I mean? Because to that to that point it is what it is and at least they can make it pretty pretty painless So let's move on. This is the ace of diamonds. This better be a good one So let's move on this is the ace of diamonds this better be a good one

You see a large mob. Oh, this is a good one. You see a large mob breaking into your neighbor's house You know he's there With his wife and children you have about two dozen rounds of ammo roughly one for each mob member Oh god, this just turned into like John Wick for each mob member oh god this just turned into like John Wick you are the only person capable of defending your own family the mob passed your house and didn't notice you all at all would you step out of the shadows and risk your own life to help your neighbor or would you stay safe and protect your own family and why who do we hit with this one I guess we'll go with Dave because Dave Dave you probably got a mind for this kind of a thing already. I bet

so you So you got you got about one round per person. Yeah, that sucks Yeah, I think I try and go in the back door and get him out of the house so the mob is 24 people deep because they yeah it's two dozen rounds of ammo roughly one for each mob member that's a lot of people yeah and you don't know what the mob is armed with you start blasting on them they could all open up on you and it's over so I would try and get him out of the house and try and cover his escape I mean burn the house down save save their lives you know yeah

yeah that's a toughie there yeah what are you doing Ryan Neighbor's house is getting infiltrated. Unless you shoot every shot and nobody shoots anything back at you, you can't stop them. Or maybe you can. Depends on what they're armed with I guess. What's your course of action? Well, he said it was at night time daytime I don't think it mentioned it didn't just a large mob breaking into that will assume nighttime I mean, you know, you don't see many mobs out during the well, that's not necessarily true anymore, but It doesn't say we'll assume that I guess Give you an advantage. It's a tough scenario

Yeah So I I have one neighbor so my neighbor is extremely valuable to me and No matter what the outcome is whether My neighbor gets offed or you know, these mob members take over his house I I still have to deal with that situation because they're just gonna come to my place next. Good point. So I think I would I would do a couple of things I think I would try and get some intel on it either by looking

in because I can I have the ability to look into their windows with you know from a distance with binoculars from different perspectives if I had to and If that was the case if if they were holding him that'd be one thing but I think I would probably try and do a Psyop kind of deal and Pick one of them off at a time and just move around hunting rifle style from the woods and pick one of them off at a time and just move around. Hunting rifle style from the woods?

Yeah, because I can probably, I've got a probably 360 degree view of most windows at probably a quarter mile easily. So if they were hunting rounds, I'd be in pretty good shape or even assault rifle with red dot I'm fairly accurate with that. So I think I'd probably just let them panic and work it slowly basically. Kind of a little slow torture. I like that. I think that's a great idea. You know, you can't assume I mean they would have to be Testicles of steel to just sit around in this random house with these random people while people are falling dead around them in their group You know, yeah, there's no motivation for them to say well, we're just gonna wait it out. Everybody get away from the windows You know, they're there for some kind of easy resourced

or some kind of easy gain in this if a bunch of start getting shot for and they don't know where it's coming from here yet and that makes good sense yet i know where their power water shutoffs are so worst-case scenario i could maintain the utilities and

not smoke about but just basically make them realize there's no value there beyond you know an individual right okay I like it I like I missed it Ryan did you say something no good okay all rightiden, neighbors under attack. What are you doing? Are you going to let them go the way of all flesh or are you helping out? Yeah, well, I looked up that suicide data first real quick. It was actually a year's worth of suicides in one month in California. That was in by April

2020. But yeah, it's like if my neighbors got that going on where they've got 24 bad guys heading their way, it's go time. I ain't sitting back and waiting. I sit on my butt as my neighbors getting shot and their their families getting killed. That ain't no way. I think it most certainly depends on like not what I would the the tactics would depend on what kind of rounds we're talking about. Are we just talking about? I've got a Glock are we talking I got a bolt action 308 what's going on there? Well, I think you can weigh that I think you can weigh that scenario based on you, you know So like what is the likelihood?

What what is the likely weapon that you're gonna reach for you know? Yeah, we're talking bolt action in and I'm hiding in the woods and I'm picking them off. Because I ain't leaving them there by themselves to do that. It don't matter what the end result is. That's not happening. And even then, like, if you decide to sit back and wait it out and you decide you're gonna play it safe because they bypassed you, so you should be alright. Who's to say they ain't gonna camp out in that location for a week? I mean if they're doing that they're gonna find eventually and then you're straight because you're by yourself and you got nobody coming to Help you Yeah, I guess it's a problem that needs handling if you can if you can

Have the cover like that to handle it and pull off some you really would be Banking on them panicking and running away you know I think nobody behaving normal once bullets start flying over yeah I mean that's true especially if their people start dying people start dropping dead and let's say we need to get the hell out of here something's going on all right that's good my neighbors got help on the way what about you Jordan all hell is breaking loose next door see now Jordan I know has was never really very fond of her neighbors so I'm interested about this she said

I'm getting I'm gonna crack a yangling and watch it all burn baby well um Yes, and no so the whole thing though is if we're talking about they bypassed mine I live as you've seen the area in a relatively open space with the houses around me So in my situation, there's a most likely that any sort of mob mentality is going to continue moving. Now am I going to count on that? Absolutely not. But I have to think about it as just me and my three kids.

What is going to be the safest course of action? Because if I try to do anything to try to so much as help those neighbors, even though I hate the thought of someone else getting hurt over something like that. I then put my children at risk. Sure. So unfortunately, even in the worst scenarios, good people do get hurt. And I have to think, do their lives outweigh the lives of my children? And the first answer is going to be absolutely not.

Do I want to see him get hurt? No. If it's one of those situations where I see that it's happening, I'm going to start taking every precaution of what is going to be the best course of action for me to protect my household. Where can I consolidate? How can I get the children out? It's literally going to be an action plan for me. me now if I am close enough or within range don't think for one second I would hope that they climbed out the windows and took off and if for whatever reason a good chunk of those people are in that house that's what I feel good incendiary rounds are for you

might as well like you said let it burn but but in my situation, even though I hate for someone to get hurt, I can't risk my safety and the safety of my children for someone else when I can honestly tell you in the neighborhood I'm in, they would not lift a finger for me either. So unfortunately here it's one of those things where I hate the thought of that. But again, my small children is going to be my precedent over somebody else's stuff. No, I get it. I get it. Got to watch out for the fam.

You know, while there are... This is one of the scariest things about rural living to me You know because because of this now the catch-22 is who where the hell did 24 people come in a rural setting? That's one of those weird situations If you live off the freeway or close like I do or from a town. It's not uncommon. They see it from the road. Also from collapses, people tend to gather up on freeways. What is the main line of travel is going to be the freeway. So people will group up in clumps. Say you can see the houses off the freeway, those are going to be the first

targeted locations because they are conveniently right there, even if they have to climb a fence. That's true. So people pinpoint the easiest the easiest point from A to B and then from there they go to what's gonna be more likely have what I need beyond the immediate right at that moment sort of situation. Yeah. So this is where where having people in your community and neighbors that you can call on is such a so This is where where Having people in your community and neighbors that you can call on is such a big deal, man We have I have about four People that I could call on in the neighborhood that would respond to a situation like that and you know

though we're playing fantasy, I do still try to like keep the idea of law and order in my mind because anything that we do we have to live with so I guess it really depends on the level of shtf we're talking about right if we're talking about a guy got killed by the police in Richmond and these mobs show up compared to the whole of the power grid has been hacked and down for six months and this mob shows up and they're like two different operating procedures right so I don't know the guys in my neighborhood are pretty pretty practiced bow hunters so I wonder if we wouldn't should just try to shoot some people who are outside with bows and arrows you know from a few different positions and see what happens I think that probably beats course one of that and I know

that you're supposed to use a gun or whatever and you only have so many rounds but that in if I took that stipulation out that's probably what I would say to them I would probably say let's meet meet at said road Bring your compound bows and we're gonna like Navajo their ass and see what they how they respond and if they're next door to me then I'll be able to at least get a look and say, you know, they're heavily armed with rifles or you know, so bring guns or you know they they don't have anything and I also imagine that they're the vast majority of them are probably gonna be outside the house right cuz

24 people piling into a house what did I say Navajo Ryan corrected me. He said, dude, use a, use a, you're not so enough. Anyway. Yeah. Yeah. So that'd kind of be my course of action, be to call on, call on some help and kind of measure the situation. But I can't imagine that 24 people pile into the house in one shot, you know. So I imagine there'd be a few bold people rolling in there and then the majority would be outside screaming expletives and that whole thing threatening to burn it down I don't know that's my take but did I get everybody on that one right let's let's roll on let's roll on to the six of spades. Let's see what we got. Another home security. No, I don't know. Let's see.

You hear a noise in the back of your house. And you found about 12 orphans. Oh my goodness. Scavenging for food in the garbage cans. They appear to be kids under 6 to 7 years old. Taking them in would diminish your supply timeline by 50% and you aren't sure you can replenish your supplies once they run out. Plus it would take manpower to watch over all of them and you can spare little since everyone in your camp is constantly exhausted from hard work and rationed meals. Leaving these kids to their fates would mean their death or worse. How would you handle

this situation? Aiden Tate. Sorry to hit you with this one this is a toughie but what do you think? It's a it's a dozen kids six and seven now you have two right so you know what kind of a hell that could be Twelve I'm taking a minute. You're taking a minute. You're gonna make it work. I'm We're gonna make it work. It's gonna happen I ain't leaving that many five or six year old little kids out there just for the elements and all that there would be for the elements and all that there would be okay we'll we'll figure it out we'll make it work I've I'm a decent farmer and gardener as it is I can raise crops and I got animals and what not I'm

I'm not the best forager but I know enough plants and stuff around me that I can make it so I ain't gonna starve but we'll make it work all right pretty straightforward it is now Aiden's responsibility to take care of 14 kids man it's a lot of football games that's a lot of trophies okay well we got to go to Jordan next cuz Jordan is the the family affair host She wouldn't have any hair left I'm sure that You know after six and seven

Yeah, I mean those are children who weren't Probably put in a situation by choice, you know, whether they lost a parent or a disaster or whatever have you, there's no way. There's no way I could leave them. But in the same instance, I've always believed that everybody has their duties. So that way the children became a working member of the community, not only what they learned, but they would pick up skill sets just like my children do. Everyone would pull their part, pull their weight. Because like Aiden said, I can garden.

Not worried about clothes. As long as I can get some sort of material or be able to spin my own raw fiber, then that's no problem because I can make clothing. So I mean, I'm sure somewhere as a group effort everyone be able to because at six and seven depending on the maturity and whether they're boys or girls or even if they're not some of those kids are going to have abilities to be able to help on hunting teams. You know I've got one child who's great with butchering another one who's great with hunting another one who's amazing with fishing

So I mean if you think about it every child has their own skill aspect and you just basically Not trying to sound like a work camp But basically you put them in the field that they show the strongest ability as where they basically work as an apprentice to learn that skillship So you do these kids a foundation. You're right, because you know down here in the South, I don't know if they say anywhere else, the older folks would say idle hands are the devil's playground. You keep these kids busy, you give them skill sets, and they will not only be able to feed themselves but feed

everybody else and have something to grow from. Because I promise you anything that these children went through What you're doing is gonna give them strength that they mentally probably weren't able to deal with being an orphaned Yeah, they would never live No, there's no way they would live what about you Dave Jones they wander up on the mountain They're playing around with the quail and you catch them in the middle in the backyard. What are you doing? What is Maria gonna say? Well, if she's gonna ask me if any of them are mine

With the digging around in your trash, they're probably not pretty skinny, so they wouldn't be very good to eat. Going handsome and red on them. Well, you know, no, I'm not turning them away. Holy crap. These questions are really one one sided or the other. We're all going to help our neighbor. Yeah.

We're all going to take the kids in, you know? Um, yeah. No, except for me, I'm not helping my neighbors. Yeah. More hands are better. I mean, they're going to be able to do some seven and eight is big enough to do some stuff. Hell, hot water. Yeah, you get them for two, three years and you've got a little bit of an army of workers

at least, you know? Yeah. Yeah. But that's no easy feat, I imagine. You know, you're trying to raise up 12 people who aren't even yours. You've got to really, you've got to lay down the law pretty early with them you know they might run a mutiny on your ass in a few years well yeah but I mean you it's just organization just getting everybody organized you know oh yeah I know you know they sold this to Dave Jones rank-and-file baby by now that's a bed's made all that all right Ryan Buford what do you think man

you see him marching through the corn fields digging your potatoes up what do you do children of the horn oh god yeah there you go that's a great that's a great connection yeah, no, I think I would take him in but I do a couple of things and I kind of just like Everybody else was saying, you know, you're not gonna let them sit out there and starve but I think I'd probably take a little bit of a different approach and Really pay attention to where they came from and maybe separate whatever a quote-unquote leader there was because they Those kids if they're traveling by themselves without supervision

Were either sent on a mission or you know basically to go collect food and bring it back to some other their camp and retain them has the potential of to some other camp and retain them has the potential of drawing more attention to you. So I would isolate them individually and interrogate them, you know, not like torture them, but you know, interrogate them, find out what's really going on. I like that step. That's a cool step. That's very smart. I think we're assuming is innocence here. We're all assuming innocence. Right. And then I think I would now that's smart. I think I would probably, obviously take them all in, in the immediate future, long enough to find out what's really going on. And then if there's a true innocence there, because basically if it's not innocent, then I've got to be ready for a potential retaliation for one. Sure.

Or whatever kind of diseases or whatever These kids are carrying with them because I mean, let's face it kids kids get everybody sick, right? So I've got that kind of on my mind But what I would I would feed them take care of them as much as I could but I would I think I would reach out And try to rehome these kids Among family and friends so that the burden is shared among people rather than me owning all all of it that's what I was thinking I would also fire the guy whoever was on watch for your camp to let How the hell did we miss those kids getting in there Morbid but you've got to think it of this way depending how long they've been alone

And what their state is if they're emaciated, you know, you're gonna lose just a few kids from starvation Let alone weaken immune systems because of the lack of food. So even though you may have had a dozen six or seven year olds, depending on their state, you may actually only end up with six to seven. It's a hard thing to say, but unfortunately, if you think about it is, you know, a body can only go so long and most of the time people's minds as soon as they see if they're in a situation where they're in danger and they're hurt most the time by the time they see help they quit fighting and

just let go so you'll lose a lot of people just from all of a sudden they don't think they have to fight anymore It's that mental capacity to keep holding on Yeah Yeah, that's a good point. I imagine that some would go the way of yeah the way of all flesh All right, but yeah, that would be my goal similar to Ryan I would definitely be reaching out and saying Let's let's split this group up I would definitely be reaching out and saying Let's let's split this group up and see who could take a few so that we don't wind up with one household full

But that's a lot of mouths to add you know that's a that We do food storage around here serious, but that's a lot of people to feed all the sudden Well, well can I threw something in there because we had mentioned she goes what if they're working for someone I said well he said they were orphans she goes it doesn't mean there is an adult that has picked them up as scouts oh for sure which is true a lot of people tend to have a tender heart and that's why you see babies used as prey or bait for women because a lot of people a lot of women will tend to pull the mother side and try to pull In and make easy target. Yeah. Well, I think that's the key in Ryan's interrogation process You know if you got that many six seven year olds, you know

Somebody's gonna slip up. You know, I mean, they're not that well programmed Someone's gonna get right. Well, usually it's it's the weaker. It's unfortunately I hate to say like that it is the weaker or more innocent children out of the group that will give for it be for more forthcoming than the ones with malicious intent. Yeah. Whoa that's a dark one. These are dark these conflicted questions. Just leave the door open it's alright. Nobody's coming in here. Alright, let's do a couple more. You guys good if we do a couple more? Has anybody else got to go at 10? Oh, I'm good. Okay.

Yeah, I'm good as well. Party on. Oh, here we go, perfect. This one will ring true. Well, maybe not necessarily. Maybe of things that could have been, but were not. A deadly flu outbreak has infected one third of your group, and you don't have the means to quarantine them or the medicine to help them.

Do you vote with the rest of the group to banish them, or do you take it upon yourself to eliminate the infected ones before it spreads any further? Whoa! Oh, God. This is a no-win situation right here. Wait a minute, we only have those two options? That's it! 30% of your group is sick with a deadly flu. I guess we can call it bird flu. Do you vote with the rest of your group to banish them? You can't quarantine and you don't have medicine. So do you know that much? And I guess what the group has come up with is we can either vote to banish them or eliminate the affected ones before it spreads any further. For this one, if you have an alternate option, if you come up

with an alternate option on this one and feel free because uh huh yeah so what would be... Go ahead Jordan if you've got something already. I'm scared if you already got an answer All right, so you got to look at this way this is where it's gonna be kind of kind of probably dark So those are your only two options You can't take care of these people because from the sounds of it if 33% already have it Then it makes you wonder what the infection rate and what the death rate already is, right? Here's the issue to letting these people be have it, then it makes you wonder what the infection rate and what the death rate already is. Here's the issue to letting these people be pushed out.

If you push them out, yes, there's a chance they could get better and have that immunity for whatever reason. But if you also push them out and they survive and they hold that grudge for you pushing them out, then you have to deal with the repercussions. So unfortunately for me, you're almost the lesser of the two evils just to take them out. Yes, there is that chance they could have survived, but if you are in a situation where

your population could be greatly diminished by one illness? It's kind of like having a sick hog or a sick animal you don't let it infect the rest you put it down That's a toughie. You set a precedent in that too. You set a precedent that could one day be Inflicted upon you. That's what's scary about it. It's true, but here's the problem. What do you do if that one person out of all those people decides to come back or finds a group? What do you do then? That's a toughie. It really is a hard one because it's like, okay. But you're also basically signing their death sentence if you put

them out and they have no medicine and they are gravely ill so do you let them suffer or do you put them down quickly if I'm dying and knowingly dying I'd rather you put me out of my misery sure yeah I guess that's a good point the thing about this is it sounds like you've handled, what this sounds like to me is you've handled this thing pretty poorly, right? I mean if you're trying to survive a deadly flu outbreak and you have no quarantine or medicine options at all. You're already exposed anyways. Yeah that's kind of what's going through my head right is I already got it so whatever I do to them likely gonna happen to me anyway.

So yeah I don't know that's it that seems like a no-win situation. What if it's Ebola and you're having a hemorrhagic fever would you take your chances on trying to survive on your own with a hemorrhagic fever or would you ask the pediatrician? That seems like a lot of nightmare. We got Dane D with us but go ahead and mute that real quick Dane. And turn your camera off. That would help yeah. All right what about you Dave Jones the NBC guy? You know, we want to hear about how I got on this one Yeah, if you if you have these people and you can isolate them in someone's house You know, so segregate them isolate them in someone's house Then set the house on fire

No, yeah quarantine them separate At least that way they'll get you know some kind of a funeral if you banish them They're gonna die in the woods and someone's gonna you know the animals are gonna eat them but yeah you you explain to him look you gotta stay in this house you isolate him you keep them away from everybody else and let nature take its course nature did you hear the No, no I didn't hear the question. I was just making sure you guys could hear me. Yeah, we got you. So look, a deadly flu outbreak has infected a third of your group and you don't have the means to help them.

You can't quarantine them. You don't have any medicine. So do you vote with the rest of your group to banish them or eliminate the infected ones before it spreads any further? I know. I think for me it's a vote thing. That way if any of them survive they don't come back and be like hey you banished me right you know there's always the chance someone could survive that they could buy medicine

yeah that's a good you know that's a good point so you're saying let them have their option do you want to be put out your misery or do you want to be put outside the wall damn right okay so they get them instead of the group getting the vote the person gets to make their decision we can't keep you here alive how do you want it yeah and many factors are going to come into play do they have kids in there that are not infected that they want to stay alive you know so on and so forth

yeah that's a big one right children in the mix loved ones in the mix sure that's a nasty question what about you Aiden Tate? What do you think? All right, so I first of all, I think the The euthanasia approach I don't believe in euthanasia to begin with so that's out the window for me but I like looking at all right, so like Public health is something that I've done a lot of study and research.

I got a little bit of a background within the public health setting. I think one of the most fair approaches to it is if you look at the Old Testament with the way that the lepers were managed. So what would happen is you had this disease that most certainly could spread and absolutely devastate the community, causing people's arms and limbs and their noses to fall off. So they got to figure out some way during ancient times to keep these people away and figure out what to do. So they had the leper colony. You stayed there a certain amount of time and after whatever it was like 30 days or whatever you could come you could visit the high priest and he

would say nope you you failed the inspection sorry you got to go back to the colony or hey you passed inspection you can come back with us so what I would do is I will get somebody in a pickup truck and say all right load up all the sick people on the back of the pickup truck I know a barn not far from here that's gonna be shelter enough for y'all you're not going to have any contact with the person inside the cab of the truck we're driving you there you're getting out there's going to be supplies already stocked there and we'll be back for you in what a month until then you're on your own so that that would be my game

plan I like it I think it's reasonable know, you could drop you can drop resources outside of the barn right if there's somebody if People in there are getting better and they have the ability, you know to bring wood in to keep the place warm or food And water that type of thing Yep, I mean you've given them the best fighting chance you can I dig that So I have a quick question. Go ahead. I've got two of the conflicted decks do you guys want me to

pull anything out of them or do you guys already have all the questions set aside or? We're picking some at random from a bunch that we got thrown into the I think we're good we're only gonna do a few more because it's gonna get late but I appreciate it I appreciate it no worries no worries I didn't read any of them ahead of time so it's been kind of fun all right then we'll move on to the next that one was tough I need an easy one after that let's see what we got here. Okay. I think I've read this one already. But this is a pretty good one here.

This is one of the only ones I did read because it came in last. Food and water is nearly all gone. Your neighbors and the people you bunkered down with are restless and worried about food. There aren't any immediate fertile areas around where you could forage and hunt or fish for food. One of the members of your group suggests that looting others may be your group's last resort. If you were in this situation how would you handle the idea of looting others if it came from your own group?

So looting, going from... I'm not going to repeat that, Dave Jones, but that's good. What do you got, Dane? You're ready to go. You're ready... Who's left? Well, I didn't know you'd call that that fast, but I think when it comes to anything like that, if that's honestly your last resort, there have got to be ground rules. You know what I'm saying? Like you can't run around killing everybody. You can't do things that I mean, I mean, like, okay okay you look at a criminal who steals versus a criminal who Murders versus a criminal who you know does is a rapist or whatever you understand I'm saying very different penalty for

Theft is totally different right? Even the penalty for for robbery or burglary is completely different. Arm robbery again is a lot worse. But I don't know. I mean, like I'm just putting in the mindset of absolute desperation. Like I don't want to take anyone's life. I don't want to hurt anyone, you know, but I do want to feed my family, right? So make the fallout as minimal as possible you know I'm saying if that makes any sense no yeah yeah I love the idea of ground rules if you're gonna start running up in people's houses no killing I mean yeah we leave a certain percentage behind yeah I mean it sounds insane but like that

that's it I think that's the only way I could sleep at night if I had to do that, you know? No, I get it. I get it. Dave Jones is not unavailable. What do you got, Jordan? You're out of food. You know people who got it and your crew is nervous and they want to go get it. You know, the whole moral aspect of it is how much can we do before we have to potentially step out of our moral

Ways yeah, I'm huge part. I think my The whole thing would be what can we scavenge before we have to go to the point of Luton because once you cross that line of Luton, you know, there's gonna be a potential for people to get hurt people to get killed as well as conflict and now if your group has been bunked down you are now on the radar of whoever you just looted yeah yeah so what can I savage yeah what can we scavage or what can we do before we have to hit that point that that's gonna

be the hardest point for me is morally knowing is once you hit that point And you are willing to fight for someone else's stuff You become the one person you were trying to prevent from the coming towards you. Oh, that's so weird, right? God that's what I think about it. You know, we're all for defending our stuff Yeah, yeah But God forbid when you have to turn into the person who has to take from someone else it makes you know better than a thief You become the you go in for all right And you then become the person who has to decide are you willing to pull the trigger for their stuff?

I'm morally and mentally Unless I'm defending myself. I don't see where I could do it I'm not saying I wouldn't but that is a hard one. I would rather scavenge Yeah, I'm right there right there that that says it all right there I just know I couldn't Morally with my own self because I have to live with myself once it's said and done. No doubt Because I have to live with myself once it's said and done no doubt You know, it's different killing someone and self-defense or killing someone to protect somebody right killing someone just for their stuff shooting someone in their own house

Just for their food. Yeah, where did you cross the line? Yeah, that's a hard one for me Like that would be a huge moral debate and probably would disband the group Just because I'm not willing to take a life over their stuff when I'd rather have a try to find another option because there's always more options always even if it means picking up and moving well that's kind of what I was thinking what about you Aiden Tate somebody's got some stuff you need some stuff the family's hungry your people are hungry and you know where to get this stuff Do you go get it?

mmm, I kind of like the like I Think That commerce creates wealth. So look if you're in this type of situation You're in a post-disaster situation where it's without rule of law and it's the end of the world as we know it type event. I kind of like that this try to set up some type of bartering system some type of common ground barter fair or something like that where you can trade the skills and the goods that you already have and the goods that you've scavenged that aren't other people's goods that are just scavengeable materials and seeing if you can

do that to get the food. Yeah, I think that's great. That's what came to mind. Two things came to mind when I read the question. The first was just that. I don't have any food, but what else do I have that I can at least make contact with people send scouts out to talk to people? That I probably would have done already, you know in a situation like that Like you're gonna I imagine pretty early if you're a prepper

You're gonna start linking up with people outside even of your community, right? Like so communities adjacent to yours neighborhoods adjacent to yours You're gonna start making those contacts early if you're if you're thinking at all, right because with that comes power and then you know from there you can either like you said set up a barter situation or What I would consider is we're traveling Security now or we're traveling workers now. So we're gonna go to these adjacent neighborhoods and say you know we don't we don't have any food but we'll we'll do security detail we've got guns and ammo we will do whatever kind of work you guys need done as long as you pay us in food and I feel like

you could work for food you know if you had a group that you'd be able to find a way especially if you're a group that you'd be able to find a way especially if you're a group That some percentage of that group is preppers and has you know survival skills or you know self-reliant skills And you're gonna be able to you're gonna be able to do something You know what I mean, you're gonna be able to figure out how to turn Turn something they have into something better or help them out with a process So that's my call on that one is Dave Jones back Or did we beat this one to death? I? Think you beat it to death wrong where none of us are gonna steal will trade will barter will do whatever it is, but

We're not criminals. Hey, are we is this the weakest conflicted show ever? Should we be saying like If it comes down to it, I'm just unloading the magazine All their shit right Exactly, I feel like prepper there's a certain Segment of the of the fantasy prepper population out there that it's just giving big thumbs down to this whole conversation. Right? You're going to do whatever you need to do. Stop lying to yourself. All right. The sixth... Now I... Go ahead.

No, I think people are getting the idea and there's a lot of outside of the, you know, thinking outside of the box. So I think a lot of people are gonna get good information about this because you're put in these situations You know if if those kids got into my perimeter Man, they're good. Those kids are good. You can learn. How the hell did you get in here kid? You know, it's funny though James is I have a friend we talked about situations and she had brought up Because I had asked her some questions and I guess you could almost consider it conflicted She had already said that she would sell her body and trade for whatever she needed to keep her kids alive Okay, it's the oldest profession there is for a reason. Yeah to keep her kids alive.

I would sell my body too but I'd be lucky if I Trade it would be a trade because unfortunately the way she said it in a situation like that a Lot of men don't think beyond their carnal and physical desires To some level. Yeah Situations like that, right? She has something somebody else will want being a female and unfortunately, it's not something she ever wanted to consider but she said that Being a female and of course, you know a lot of the population or the aggressors who are gonna stronghold everything are gonna be men She will have to use whatever she has to to protect and feed her children No, even if you her own cost of herself.

You could look at like the gold mine camps and you know the the the railroad camps and stuff like that I mean there were always women with them always always always yeah you know I mean it's it's sad but I mean the whole thing about this game for me is we're answering from a place of comfort Yeah, we're answering that's a good point from from where we are right now looking out the window. We're not answering From being at the very bottom of holy crap. I haven't eaten in two weeks. My kids are staring at me What am I gonna do, right? you bring up a really good point Dane and I challenge you guys if you wanted to if you wanted to play this thing in an altered state I don't know if you guys are crazy enough to do this kind of stuff, but we could you know at prepper camp

We played it drunk. No. Yeah, that's one way, but I think this would be way better. I think this would be way better You could do a two to three day water fast that will literally change your whole mind I don't know if you've ever done anything like this before but if you if you fast for like two to three days like this before but if you if you fast for like two to three days you start to turn into like an animal and I'd be really interested to see what what our answers would be in that sort of a mind frame having not eaten after a few days you know what I mean and just just when you start talking about food and you start talking about resources and start being nice and I'm gonna be nice to people I wonder what our what our state would be like if we really went a few days without

Without because that's a great point. I'm drinking coffee. I'm drinking water. I had a nice big dinner You know I'm a totally different guy than I would be if I if I just drank water and worked and worked out and did everything I do but didn't eat for three days you know your survival instincts start to like hum a little bit if you've ever yeah fasted for that long and it's it's legit that'd be a fun conflicted for me but I'm a little crazy so I don't know if that's a challenge you guys would be into but let's move on to the eight of spades No, yes Clubs you see a wave of men in or this is like

Hollywood I'm not a big fan of this one This one seems a little Hollywood to me But you see a wave of men in orange inmate suits walking down the street towards your home You see a wave of men in orange inmate suits walking down the street towards your home. They have pipes and makeshift clubs in their hands, but they do not seem to be breaking into any homes or bothering anyone. At this distance, you could take most of them out with your AR-10, but once they get close you'll be overwhelmed if they try to jump you. Do you take the chance and let them pass pass or do you start shooting people who have done nothing to you and why?

This is a really really fantastic sort of scenario right I don't necessarily understand it or buy it So I almost want to give it to the mob Yeah, I almost want to see yeah, because it seems so silly like everyone gets out of prison. They all stick together They all have clubs and they're just tra la la and down the street Not doing anything wrong, right? Let's do a different one this one Are they singing no, I'm just kidding. Sorry Okay, here we go, maybe we'll yeah

This is not Morgan rogue. I hope but we'll see more Morgan always made sure he oh, it's a boy Morgan always made sure he had a get-home bag with him wherever he went, just in case a disaster struck and he couldn't get home through modern conventional means. The contents of this bag would help him get back to his family safe and sound, from anywhere in the country. Wow, I'd like to talk to him about that bag. Do you take a special get-home bag with you when you travel? What?

No, we're not doing that. That's just a question. They just want to know what's in your get-home bag. Next one. Okay, here we go. Oh, we're going to talk about a... you guys will all know about this. But this is a good one. Maybe we'll end it on this one because this is a... this isn't like anything mind-blowing, but it's a good one. Maybe we'll end it on this one because this is a This isn't like anything mind-blowing, but it's a good question

In late august of 1859 a solar flare sent a coronal mass ejection directly towards earth Taking only 17.6 hours to make the 93 million mile journey So the Carrington event right the target of such an event missed earth in 2012 And there is an estimated 12% chance of a similar event occurring between 2012 and 2022 This event could collapse modern civilization as we know it today. I will say that it would most definitely Collapse modern civilization as we know it today Would you be ready?

That's pretty open-ended absolutely I guess I'd say I'd be ready for some things but I don't think we know my nine-year-old son said and muted it. He said we got it. We're pretty good here. I mean, I don't, you know, I share what I do all the time here. And basically what I do is rally. That's why I'm so helpful helping the neighbors all the time. The neighbors are going to be part of my group here. Sure, of course. So we're dropping some trees over the roads, we're setting up some

LPOPs, we're securing our little section here of the mountain and everybody's coming uphill to you guys so that's a good thing, right? Exactly, exactly. And they're gonna be on the score. I got a better one here if we don't want to go down this EMP preparedness path and It's it's actually a much better question. I think What do you guys think? Sure. I say shoot it The survival group you belong to has lots of children What are three essential life skills that every child should know in today's current society? What are three other skills you would add to their education in a post-apocalyptic world? I don't know that we need to do six, but if you got six feel free

But basically three essential life skills for kids and three post-apocalyptic life skills for kids Who wants Dave go first Dave sure yes yeah Dave yeah I got a run soon all right knock this one out make fun you're gone oh okay I see I'm sorry I didn't read the chat so so you want three skills or six whatever you got the question is three skills for today and three skills for apocalypse. Okay they got to know how to make fire, find water. My nine-year-old he's chiming in. Did you hear that? Yeah. Make fire, find water, okay? And shelter. All right. Good survival essentials.

And then if you want to expand upon that, shoot. Yeah. Okay. Navigate. Good one. And, you know, trap. Get food because if you can shoot you can shoot yeah exactly i said i like it

who's next i was gonna go a little bit more um a little bit more larger than that i was gonna go with blacksmithing um survival. How to mill out a barrel. Mine wasn't that extreme. Mine was more or less, you know, yikes, man. Yikes. Like gunsmithing, blacksmithing and survival. There you go. I'll be quiet now. Sorry.

No, that's fine. Oh, no. the the the the So I see my thing is now is my children being able to basically It's funny is my skills that I think children should have before and after Aren't much very different because I think if anything the kids need to know how to get water and purify it they need to know how to make a shelter or have some sort of shelter and need to know how to make a shelter or have some sort of shelter and three is obtain food now if you mean in additional skills then they need to know

how to prepare and clean what they kill so they properly do it as well as you know finding the water would be the sterilizing or maintaining a healthy water and then on shelter is being able to have coverage or safe shelter out of the elements so I like that The mistress of metal just popped up and said that she thought farming might not be the worst thing for kids to get some experience With grow some food, right? Right, my kids like to garden but it's funny because it's like well

How what do I say that isn't outside of the norm of what we already do? True. No, I get that. Raising, raising animals, chickens, ducks, you know. All that stuff, husbandry, yeah. What about you, Aiden, Kate? What are you teaching the kids? Yeah, most certainly everybody needs to know how to shoot I think post disaster I do farming as it is so my kids are

following me around as I'm doing that but I would most certainly be Delving into that more with them telling them more of the depth and the details. All right, this is why We do this with the goats. This is why the honey bees get this this is why we do this with the mushroom logs and on with that as far as a third thing I like the idea of making fire and teaching them how to do that yeah that's a big one that's definitely a big one I Guess to modern modern day Modern day what I think kids should know how to fight I think that's a big one that a lot of kids are set on I think They should know how to cook That's a big one that I think a lot of kids miss. I still can't believe we don't teach people how to cook in school

That blows my mind That's all microwave support. You've got to do it three times a day What other thing do you got to do three times a day that you just have no training on whatsoever? I can't even Fathom why we wouldn't teach you one. Yeah, right, but I mean you can you know, you can rap Yeah, I get like that Jay Ferg. Not lying. You should have saw my beard about three days ago. I wasn't meaning beard, I meant like actual physical. Well you know what I mean it's all tied in though. Guys are crazy. But yeah cooking, fighting, those are big. Shooting, yeah I could see shooting being one for sure.

Probably before shooting I would teach a kid how to use a knife. Just basics. How to not cut your finger open and bleed to death with your knife. I think that's a big one. I remember handing my son. That has been my favorite thing as a parent. As I say, it's sharp and you hear oh and they quickly move their hand and I'm like let me guess you put

your hand on the blade. Immediately I was just about to say it my son did the same thing. I got him this little tiny Kershaw and and I was like alright buddy it's a real sharp so just be careful with it I'll open it up for you and you know we sat there with it for like I don't know a minute maybe and he was bleeding and it's nice as well but they've yet to jab themselves yet you know knock on wood but my 11 year old is the second I gave him a good sharp knife I was like don't it sharp. Oh, you know Crap, yeah, well the other thing too like if you if you do the knife training correctly

You know, you're gonna show them how to take care of those cuts. You're gonna show them how to sharpen it You're gonna show them how to open it close it Uh care for the sheath care for the handle See first day is all these things Yeah, that's a big one. That's a big one first day a big deal Care for the handle see first thing Yeah, that's a big one that's a big one first a big deal Yeah, one thing happened in there big one I'd probably get how to I'd probably depending on their age. I'd probably teach them how to really hide well If it was post-apocalypse, you know what I mean if we're dealing with something like that, you know, cuz nine times out of ten

Nine times out of ten hiding is gonna be your best course of action, particularly if you're a kid and you're on your own You know, it's like, you know, you think about it kids today don't know how to sit quietly You know because they're oh you can do this you can do that But I remember as a kid you didn't you when you were told to shut up and not move you shut up and you did not move Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean imagine imagine guys, you know like us back when we were kids playing hide-and-go-seek imagine if we would have had something like a ghillie blanket or You know Yeah, now imagine teaching your kid how to do that, you know with a ghillie blanket or a ghillie suit or something man. They would be they'd be unstoppable Yeah, I'm doing that this weekend. I have to play release

Release growing up. We always play no shark attack Release release was just like it was kind of like kick the can but at night, you know So you would you would all go and hide at nighttime around the whole neighborhood, you know But we lived in Roe home, so it sounds big but it wasn't that big there were easy boundaries in the neighborhood But it was basically hide-and-seek at night, you know all through the neighborhood and that was That was about one of the funnest things in the world, man This play So what else I don't know That was about one of the funnest things in the world man. I remember doing that. It was fun. So what else? I don't know. Archery? Of course I would say fishing right because you can

it's my thing. So yeah fishing is huge in my house and we all I keep you know fishing line and lures in each kit too. So if you have if you buy a spool of like 5,000 yards of mono and You know how many packs of number 10 hooks? Do you really need before you've outfitted yourself completely for fishing? You know like I have Grown on the property so it's not like we don't have family. I mean you can wrap the line around a can around a plastic bottle and fish, you know It's it's a awesome skill and the thing about fishing is kids also love it. It's easy. It's an easy sell

It's not like dude. Listen, we're gonna go sit in a hunting blind until the Sun goes down Okay And that's what we're doing today hunting blind until the sun goes down. Okay. And that's what we're doing today. That's something I'm big on is teaching them how to fillet. So then they can just make it as quick and as clean as possible. Yeah, that's a good one.

If anybody knows anything about crappie, their stomachs are full of freaking worms and it's just easier to bypass it just by filleting it. Right. Because I don't do my or anything my wife just came up with a couple more they're not not bad ones she said to teach them tracking that's a guy yeah find your little brother and situational awareness absolutely oh yeah huge I was doing with my son the other day. Even my kids I teach now run, fight and hide. You run, hide and fight. Sorry. So you run, you

hide and if you get found, you fight. Like those are the three things I teach now in any sort of emergency situation because if you don't have to be in a conflict, I need you to remove yourself from that conflict immediately. Yeah. That sounds like how me and James grew up. Mostly running. Mostly running. Yeah.

Maybe that's why I still do it. I grew up hiding. It was more or less a challenge of would my older brother who was left in charge of me Be able to find me before mother got home because he had no clue where I was. There you go You're gonna be in trouble I'll tell you a fun game that we play that that probably is gonna if we weren't talking about this on the prepper Broadcasting network, it would sound really off color But it's it's a really fun game that you can play by yourself even if you don't have kids or you can play it with your

older kids who kind of get it and it's um, who's the most likely threat? And actually it's actually pretty fun to do You know, my son is nine so he gets it and you can just you know Sit there if you're in a crowded place and just say alright, who's the who's the potential bad guy and why? You know and you and the goal is definitely not to like Find the shake Muhammad who's it who's actually gonna commit the crime? But it's to have the conversation with yourself or with your kid like well that guy's down there and he's by himself and he's got something in his hand and I can't make out what it is and And that's an issue right now. Now

as he gets closer I can tell he's carrying a camera he's a nice guy but that if you're talking about training situational awareness that's about the best way you can do it by yourself or with a kid and have it be something that you kind of enjoy you know. You're teaching them to look for attack or threat indicators that's that's genius it's fun it's a fun thing to do too you know and sometimes you catch them like sometimes you catch him doing doing distasteful things to with their mind which is fun to talk about you know like there was like there was a guy walking up with a family, right? But he was all like ghettoed out.

You know what I mean? Like his pants were coming down and he had like a wrap t-shirt on, cornrows and you know, just playing the game with my kid. And he just said, that guy looks like he'd be a threat. And I was like, okay, well, maybe on face value because you know because of the way society presents these guys but he's with his kids and he's with his wife. Did you just try the clean cut ones that make me a little more nervous? Well like I was just trying to explain to him that he was with his family so the

likelihood that he's gonna do anything dangerous probably pretty low you know what I mean? As opposed to somebody who's by themselves or somebody who's, or people who are doing strange things, you know? Can I interject something you may want to point out to your kids? And I apologize to kind of go off here, but so at my facility we have all sorts of people. Well, there is a quite a group that comes in I don't deal with personally who are sex offenders and from what I've seen Some of our more atrocious offenders are blue-collared clean-cut guys who would be someone you think you could talk to with no

Problem, who are some of the most vicious and disgusting child predators I have ever seen I believe that emphasis on the word predator Predator because then they come off very charismatic very Demure Manipulative all these personality traits that for anybody who would approach you think oh this, you know Attractive looking man seems very nice right no children or he plays on young boys or whatever some tickets or some money to give your kid oh yeah yeah that's an easy one right and I'm being manipulative money being manipulative and being persuasive are probably some skills

You'd want to teach your kid post-apocalyptic also, you know Not nothing you know, he's right of but yeah, they should know yeah get yourself out of their needs mention Yeah, that's how to get there one way or the other being manipulative, you know I Think that's about it guys what do you think we've almost gone two hours awesome man oh yeah this I knew this was gonna be a ball I think Dave Jones said yeah you missed some good ones but we'll do it again we'll definitely do it again maybe we'll have you lead it

off you got all the content you got all the cards rather yeah I got I got I got a couple of the decks man there's some questions in here that I was like oh but I haven't seen them all yet so that'll be good it'll be good man it'll be good definitely do it we'll give it we'll give it a couple weeks off and then we'll we'll just schedule it up so everybody's free and we'll do it again we had yeah we had the who are we missing Oh Carl B only person we missed was Carl So we're good to get him back on again All right, then. Well, I appreciate it guys. Thanks for giving me a couple hours on a Monday and listeners thanks so much for joining us for for a couple hours on a Monday or Tuesday or whenever you get this thing, but

You know, these are really What I probably should have done what we all probably should have done and what what the listening audience what we'll plan on doing next time is Find out where Find out where you're weak with these, you know This is a great opportunity to be like I can't I'm I need to put something in place to deal with The mob at my next-door neighbor's house right that one seemed to be about the toughest one right the mob comes in the next-door neighbor's house and they're gonna

Infiltrate and they might live there. They might kill your neighbor and you got to make a decision what you're gonna do So, you know, it might be worth writing down and addressing Some things if you find yourself in a situation where you're kind of stumped down and addressing some things if you find yourself in a situation where you're kind of stumped. Because rarely, I don't know about you guys, but I'm always guilty of being like, I feel really prepared for all the things I think I'm really prepared for. Not going outside the box all that much. So these are a good opportunity to get outside even the preppers mindset into like the real

deal SHTF scenarios where it's life and death. opportunity to get outside even the preppers mindset into like the real deal SHTF scenarios where it's life and death so yeah I do appreciate it everyone and you know double barrel Tuesday tomorrow night don't miss it it's gonna be a big week here at PBN big week for membership content also so members stay tuned really cool project from hammer talk. I finished up today You guys are gonna dig it but all that said I Do appreciate you and we'll talk soon

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