The Prepper Broadcasting Network - Matter of Facts: Fitness

Episode Date: May 5, 2025

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Welcome back to the Matterfags Podcast on the Prepper Broadcasting Network. We talk prepping guns politics every week on iTunes, Stitcher, and Spotify. Go check out our content at MWFpodcast.com on Facebook or Instagram. You can support us via Patreon or by checking out our affiliate partners. I'm your host Phil Raveley. Andrew and Nick are on the other side of the mic and here's your show. And welcome back to Matterfax podcast. Nick is back with me, back behind the mic. Andrew on the other hand is not here.

He took a new job as Starlink satellite technician, but he was a little concerned about having to hold his breath for extended periods of time. So I'm kind of like, I don't know anything about maintaining satellites It sounds kind of cool, but I'm a little concerned for him man. Good did satellite tech work for a while I don't remember breath holding being a problem But okay, but was he a satellite tech like on the ground or satellite tech like up in the air? Because that's a little bit of a different kind of satellite tech. I do believe rooftop install. Okay. It's a long way down from a

roof. I think it's a lot longer way down from like, you know, geostationary satellites. Accurate. Anyway, I'm gonna continue to goof on Andrew until he graces us with his presence again because, you know, we're gonna continue to goof even after. again because you know we're gonna continue to goof even after Okay, let's get down to the admin work I'm gonna reorder these things just a little bit because I have I have to thank the patrons for supporting the show Including our newest patron Mike who just joined within the last 48 hours and he is already show up He's already posted himself in the signal chat for all of y'all's abuse to be heaped on him thanks for being a good sport Mike and I am now completely and totally convinced that Eddie has that that spiel he gives everybody that I am not I am not at liberty to repeat on the show that's paid from chat only I I'm convinced he has that like copied into a note or a word document because it is he

he whoops it out way too fast. He's way too excited. Look back at the wording though. The wording is different every time. It's always a little bit different. I think he just types that shit up in in like a minute. That's more concerning though because yeah, it's a little bit different, but it's still close enough every single time Yep, that's a fun group

You know it like that to me that is like been one of them one of the weirdest but the most organic parts of like podcasting is that you know, I find that every show attracts its own breed of psychopaths to it and and within the patron the group that is like the patrons of this podcast you find this weird mismatch of like you know guys that are in preparedness guys are in technology lots of my wife says it's the nerd bunch yes accurate which is not a bad thing. Like I happily call myself a nerd. I think being a nerd is pretty cool actually. And like within that group, everybody is a nerd about something. Everybody has their area of expertise. But it's the cool thing about it is that, you know,

there's, there's, if you have a question and none of us know the answer, you win a prize. Yeah. And one of us will, will figure it out very quickly because we don't like not knowing things turns out. Yeah. As it turns out, not knowing is, um, is worse than getting a bar with like 14 different reasonably well informed opinions. Absolutely. Yes. Raggle being a nerd is definitely better than being a dork. Being a dork. Look, I've been telling people since I was in high school,

like, hey, you better be nice to nerds because they will rule the world one day. And I mean, look at the tech explosion. Nerds pretty much do rule the world now. You know, if you're not obsessed with what you do, you're never gonna be the best at it. Yeah. If you're not obsessed with what you do, you're never gonna be the best at it Yeah So on the back of thanking the patrons

I do have a request and I don't ask much of y'all but I noticed the other day looking at it that the audio podcast wherever you happen to look at it, whether it's the the I you know the Whether it's the iTunes directory or any of the various places that it's broadcast to we haven't had a comment or review in like three years and I don't want to I said yes you're being detained because I know there's gonna be that one knucklehead libertarian the bunch says am I being detained yes you are all I'm gonna ask and I am NOT gonna ask for five star views unless you just really love the show in which case you might want to check yourself into a mental health professional but I will say that he's the craziest one of the bunch yeah maybe but I would just say that like

you know engagement drives things it helps so like I like a comment a little bit of interaction not only is it fun for me and Nick, because we get to talk to y'all while we're doing while we're goofing off doing the show. Yep. But it also helps attract other like minded sociopaths. Absolutely. Oh, maybe we just need to try harder to to offend a lady like back in the day and get her to just bombard everything we post for a month. Yes, I did tell Nick that story. It was, I want to say we only have been podcasting for about a year and I don't even remember what it was I said, but I really upset some some poor little either young

millennial or Gen Z lady with something I had said, which is pretty hard to believe because, you know, I'd never say anything controversial, but yeah, she, she was upset enough to leave us a one star view and then like comment bomb everything we posted for weeks. Thanks for driving the algorithm. Yeah. I'm driving the algorithm. I, I, I almost want to like dig back through eight years of social media history just to remember what it was I Don't think it's worth the effort

But it's just like, you know pull stuff out of a hat be like, oh, yeah, this probably pissed her off real bad Yeah Anyway merch if you want to support the show and get a shirt for your trouble, those links are in the show description. It supports a small family owned business. Cypher survivalist is heading towards our first quarterly event. It will be in June. I will do homework. And next time we talk on the show, I will even have the date and the details prepare

for y'all potentially because no actually may not be next show it might be the one after that because not this weekend but next weekend is our next board meeting hmm so one of the things I ask it worked out is what exactly we're gonna do for this next event like are we gonna just do like a lunch and a hangout are we gonna actually try to teach a class I know I was speaking to my sister who was our resident, uh, medical nerd on staff and, um, she has, I know she had mentioned she was going to look at taking the, uh,

the instructor course for stop the bleed. Ooh, that'd be good. So that she could actually like, you know, she could actually like teach the course. Yeah, absolutely. And I'm well, first of all, I mean, I think it's something that the community could make use of. And second of all, I like the idea that then we could offer that as a thing. Like, you know, as part of the nonprofit, we could offer that class. Yeah.

You know, just a little bit to cover your guys' expenses and whatnot. That'd be great because then people could leave having officially been trained in something. Yeah, and I mean, it's one of those things where like, quite frankly, my sister's been, she's been an EMT and a paramedic since she was 18 years old like she is an absolute certifiable badass when it comes to keeping the red stuff inside the people and those are good to have around yeah yeah yeah you don't want to you don't want to have a reason for them to be useful to keep around but they always end up being useful to keep around, put it that way. Yeah, buddy. Well, you can never have enough first aid classes in my opinion.

No, because it, my experience has been that like, when, when somebody, when, when you have a need for a person with that kind of experience, you usually need more than one of them. Yeah. Because casualty events turn into mass casualty events very quickly. That meant a lot of cars hold more than two people. Well, I mean I'm sure you've been driving long enough to watch a one car accident turn into a 12 car accident. Yeah, absolutely. Not 12 as most, 12 is more than I've seen, but I was involved in one that was three vehicles, five people.

Which now means how many people do you need to triage all that quickly? Realistically, at least five. But I mean, fortunately, with one person. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But that's also like my greatest argument about like every workplace of any reasonable size. like, take this to take this to the bank, I have even given the spiel to like, the head of the head of my workplace, and it hasn't really gone anywhere, unfortunately.

But like I've told everybody, like, every workplace could stand to benefit from 10% of their staff having a stop the bleed class. Yeah. And maybe even a little bit of a basic like first aid, stop the bleed and some basic triage knowledge just because can't hurt that that that means in a workplace of 50 people, you've got five that basically from the military perspective have combat lifesaver level of training. And in a in a in a larger organization where you've got like 300, 400, 10% is 30 or 40 people. Like that's the ability to do massive casualty care

from internal resources. Yeah, that's one thing that I don't see enough of in the manufacturing sector that I work in. And we work with heavy power equipment and man, that stuff can go so wrong so fast. We've got like the lathe like the lathe video you sent me yeah by the way if my butt had clenched any harder I would have had to replace my pants yes like that that that is one of

the tamer lathe videos yes the the less tame wine like I don't I don't cringe you don't want to see the yeah I think I can't remember if that was like the Russian lathe video or whatever was but whatever happened yeah the guy's polishing the shaft on a 20-foot bed lathe yeah and then next thing you know he had no bones mm-hmm no he had bones lots of little tiny pieces of bone no I'm pretty sure his bone his entire skeleton got turned into powder. I can yeah, they are unforgiving Yeah, anyway, so the topic of today is fitness something that my chubby, you know 30 30 BMI body knows very little about we all need to work on it Yeah, and I mean, I don't even feel like this somebody have to sell the average person

But I feel like when you throw the word fitness out if you've got ten people stand there You're gonna get eleven different ideas of what fitness means because you're gonna get that person that thinks Fitness is lifting weights fitness is being skinny fitness is this fitness is that and like, you know for the sake of argument I'm 42 Nick. You are 34 35 I was gonna I was gonna of argument, I'm 42. Nick, you are 34. I was going to say 35. I was going to I was going to say 36. So I was close. Yeah.

Forgot I had a birthday recently. Well, happy birthday. Well, thank you. It was a few months ago. Yeah. Yeah, I don't keep track of that. That is that is on the wife. She remembers when my birthday was.

I regularly have to consult my driver's license. It has not mattered in many years. Yeah, I mean, what was I was told about birthdays one time at 18? You're legal at 21. You could drink and at 65 you get a discount at Denny's 25. You get cheaper car insurance. Woohoo! I mean, it made a difference to me.

My insurance was expensive. But I drove crappy old cars that had a liability only then. Oh yeah, no. I had a not new but a late model, reasonably where like four-year-old pickup at the time actually staying corrected 25 I think I was still driving old used cars at that point might have been but I digress yeah but it does keep your car insurance lower hell yeah when you're when you're a starving college student oh absolutely but you know the whole thing about

fitness really to me is like, I can, I can, I've never been the person that was like, I'm gonna aspire to run like a six minute mile, or I want to lift a lot of weights, like that was never my thing. Honestly, what I was always more focused on was when I was younger, and I was still doing a lot of physical activity before I shifted into like, you know, white collar office jobs, I spent a lot of time working with my hands. I spent a lot of time lifting stuff. So like my biggest priorities back then really and

truly it was mostly back and core and shoulders because I knew that everything I did was going to involve lifting a heavy weight, usually carrying that heavy weight up a ladder or walking a hundred yards carrying that heavy weight. So like everything in the way that I worked out back then was really focused around like my shoulders need to be beefed up, shoulders, lats, lower back, especially. I've blown my back out three times. You got to be really careful with that, especially. And this is a big part of the reason why I wanted to bring up fitness is injury prevention

and injury recovery. Yes. Because, you know, I know you've got it on further down on here, but flexibility. Core strength balance flexibility if you Don't do regular stretching you probably should and it doesn't have to be daily but a couple times a week Go on YouTube go on whatever there are there are apps for it how to

Stretch various muscle groups how to stretch your whole body. Hell yoga is a fantastic option for that phenomenal If you are more flexible you are less prone to injuring yourself either muscles joints or tendons Core strength, you know, anybody that's ever had abdominal surgery or like an appendectomy or a hernia repair can tell you how much you use your core. Every muscle you move is going to make your stomach hurt, is going to make your core hurt. So, you know, I'm not trying to advocate for people going out and being a triathlete or anything like that, but what I wanted to bring up was every day, you know, life improving fitness. So work on your endurance, work on a little bit of basic cardio. If you do have a physically demanding job,

make sure that you are doing the maintenance to your body to make, so that you're not building compounding injuries. So, you know, if you work, say construction or something like that, don't go home, take a cold shower or a hot shower, and then immediately just sit on the couch. You've been using your muscles all day. You need to loosen them up afterward.

Otherwise you're going to get those muscle skeletal injuries building up over time. I'm probably in a little bit better shape than you feel just partially because of being younger than you, partially because I work on it a little bit more. I don't have a kid. I'll give you that. You know, I'm about 215 pounds, six foot tall. I don't know what that translates to at BMI, but it honestly it does translate to fuck all. Yeah, like there is there is and I dealt with this when I was in the army But like there is no Rational way to equate a BMI to a height and weight like graph. It doesn't look so Well, I put just as a side note. Mm-hmm when I was still in the army, I got busted on because I was overweight But then when they've seen pictures of you from the army. You were not overweight.

Well, I was five foot... I was probably about 5'10", about a buck 75. But according to the army, I was a few pounds overweight. So they ran they taped me and I want to say I was like 18% body fat Hmm, that's reasonable It was perfectly reasonable. I'm probably a fair bit more than that now. Well, yeah, but even now I'm like five foot two forty five Yeah, I'm a big chunky guy, but I'm hardly like, you know a critically obese fat body But yeah, that's true that you, whenever you try to equate things like I am this height, therefore I should weigh this much. I, I personally just pitched that whole notion in the trash because

I've known people that are, you know, three, four inches taller than me and they're shaped like a bean pole. So they're naturally going to weigh 30, 40 pounds less than I am despite being taller. Right, and that's why I didn't really want to, I didn't really put weight loss in any of these because you need to, I guess, adjust your expectations for weight or BMI based on your build. Because even when I was, let's see,

when I was in high school and I had been doing heavy weight lifting and heavy cardio for like three straight years, I got down to a BMI of like 14%, which was relatively nuts. I still weighed 210 pounds, but I had arms twice the size of what I have now. So you can't compare that. You can't compare that on a high weight chart. And for the second comparison, like the best shape I've been

in was when I was in Iraq because I had nothing to do but work and work out. Exactly. You know, kind of works out that way. It does. So when I came home on leave, I was I weighed 190 pounds and I was five foot 11. Right. So had not had not an inch of fat on me, you could pinch. But at the same time, you know, like going back to what I wrote here, like core strength, balance, flexibility going back to what I wrote here like core strength balance flexibility I was not I wasn't in the gym doing lots of like free weights

I was doing a lot of I was doing I was doing about the only thing I was really doing that was like really structured I was doing a lot of squatting because again lots of heavy lifting in that job lots of picking stuff up and I beat it into my head pretty early on like my lower back and my legs have got to be extremely strong so I can lift this stuff and carry for prolonged periods of time but also because I started noticing that the stronger my back and my legs were if I was carrying stuff on an uneven surface I was less likely to like you know you know that little thing where your foot slips and you catch it. And the

next thing you know, you tweak the disk in your back. It's like all of my quote unquote fitness goals were always about preventing injury because my per I mean, personally, like my body, my build, I have never had trouble putting on or maintaining muscle. I've always been just a naturally larger frame guy. Yep, I have struggled to maintain my weight. I've always been just a naturally larger frame guy. Yep. I have struggled to maintain my weight. I have and I sometimes I think as a result of having like the strength that I do. I've been very prone to injuries. I've blown this shoulder completely out, blown that hip

out, blown my back three times. And it's always because I pick something up like oh I can pick that up and carry it because I can oh yeah absolutely but it's but it's once you load your body up with all that weight the least little thing gets off center gets out of kilter and the next thing you know I'm limping the next day yeah and that's one of the that's one of the reasons why stretching is important and working on balance is important as well as like, I don't feel, have you ever looked into body weight fitness routines that focus on like control muscles

over strength and endurance building? So a lot of yoga deals with that where you're not working, you're not necessarily working just like your packs, your biceps, your triceps, your glutes. You're working all the little muscles in those muscle groups that help align your spine,, your triceps, your glutes. You're working all the little muscles in those muscle groups that help align your spine, align your knee, align your shoulder, and help you control the strength

that your larger muscle groups use. You know, this kind of harkens back to something I saw recently where they had, they were doing like kind of contests of strength. Yeah. And they had four bodybuilders and four farmers. Yup. And the farmers were like, not these big old buff cut up guys, but they were, I

mean, they just, they had farm strength. Anybody that's ever far, anybody that's ever been around farmers knows dim boys are built different. Well, it's because they're, so bodybuilding targets major muscle groups and it targets for growth. It doesn't target necessarily for strength. Like if you look at the difference between say like, me and my wife are rewatching Game of Thrones,

the guy that plays the mountain, he's a, or is or was a World Strongman competition guy. So he was his build is entirely different from like the show bodybuilder builds, which is entirely different from a what I call a working strength build, which is like your bricklayers, your farmers, your rod, your rod busters and stuff like that. your farmers, your rodbusters and stuff like that. You can build muscle groups like your biceps, your chest, you can build your glutes, you can build your abs to puff up and stick out.

You can absolutely make them do that without increasing your strength all that much compared to what you can do when you're focusing on strength building. But I mean, the strongest guy I ever met was probably one of my great uncles and that dude was he was maybe five, six and he didn't look at, but he had spent his entire life throwing hay bales and wrestling cattle so it's just I

Will say that back in the day when I was working in Tire shops put myself through college You know like most of the guys that are in there bearing in mind that these are guys that are they're lifting engine and truck parts Yeah, pretty much for an eight hour day. And none of these guys were huge. None of these guys were particularly like defined as far as muscle. Hell, we had one guy that was like about my height, he had to weigh 165 pounds, he was in his 50s. But I'm gonna tell you, he could

snatch a frigging 80 pound wheel and tire set off a frig off the side of like a heavy duty truck and just walk across shop with it like it was nothing. Well, yeah, that's now he knows he knows how to use his body. 18, 19 year old Phil was like, how in the hell is he lifting the same out? I am, and I'm a lot bigger than he is, but I just I didn't understand it at the time. Yeah. Yeah. You can learn to use your body more efficiently when you do it all the time. Yeah. Yeah, you can learn to use your body more efficiently

when you do it all the time like that. But you know, the reason why we want, one of the reasons we wanted to talk about fitness today was Phil, your improvements that you saw with your blood sugar was a big one that inspired this. As well as just during an emergency, if something does happen and you have to say move debris, move a person who's injured, move yourself. That's one of the more common after disaster injuries is somebody going to move

something and either falling or injuring themselves while doing it. Yeah, and I mean, I will say that like, in the name of full disclosure, so like I'm hypoglycemic for those that don't know, which is this funny little thing where you have a super hyperactive pancreas, and every time you eat something you're not supposed to, it says hooray insulin, and it just makes your blood sugar go to hell

in a handbasket. Now, the way that some people, in an unhealthy way deal deal with this and the way I used to deal with it was whenever you feel your blood sugar go down, you think I need sugar because that makes me feel better. But then that makes your blood sugar go up and then your pancreas has her insulin again and you just do this over and over and over. Creates a roller coaster. It does. And I found that I was in a situation with my blood sugar where like I was constantly I was always four hours away from crashing. I had I had to eat

you know, I didn't have to eat a lot but I had to eat very very regular intervals throughout the day to maintain my blood sugar and I think a lot of that was just I wasn't eating the right things So like what I what I came around to that has worked for me, I wouldn't espouse it for anybody else without saying, just try it and see if it works for you. But what I centered on was a high protein, high fat diet. So lots of eggs, lots of red meat, a little bit of chicken. I'm just not a huge chicken person.

But like my go-to lunch for a long time was just sausage and eggs or bacon and eggs sure and Limited the limited carbs no processed sugar. No complex carbs very little to no prepackaged food and Just get rid of all the get rid of all your uh, you're highly refined sugars Yeah, just just and now here's the thing if I want pizza because it's pizza night I'll still go out and eat pizza but the next day I have to get back on the wagon if I want to have like You know if I want to have like a whiskey and Coke or a cream soda and Coke I can have that I just can't have it every friggin night

You like it's you know like this old suit, this stupid old adage about everything in moderation really does work. But the thing that I heard that I was always made a lot of sense to me was nutritionist said, you should regard all sugar and all complex carbohydrates as a recreational drug. Sure makes sense with the understanding that if you have that thing every now and then isn't going to gonna kill you but if you have it all the time, it's bad Yeah, absolutely So I've I've I've framed a lot of like my thoughts about around

Dieting in this vein of if I choose this more often than this, I'm doing okay It doesn't mean never have this just means you can't have it all the time You got it. You got to make better choices and then when you decide I just want pizza today, you just eat the daggum pizza and don't beat yourself up over it. Like that's the most self destructive thing I've seen people do with dieting is that they get the salt in their head that my diet has to be perfect or it doesn't work. And then the first time they slip, they defeat themselves, they tell themselves, I it's

all it's all ruined all that effort. I'm like you can't live like that Like it's not I don't think it's mentally healthy to go down that road. I agree, you know You hear it all the time. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good. Hell no. I Feel a night neither one of us are bastions of physical perfection. Absolutely not I think either one of us is keeping up with David Goggins? Absolutely not. Not even close.

I have never and do not anticipate myself modeling for Calvin Klein underwear ever, ever forever in life. But when something does come up and you or I have to do a physical task, we're able to accomplish that task. You're able to roll under your car and get to work with a wrench The other day I was Having to do a bunch of plumbing in my house. I didn't have a problem with that was in very awkward positions Okay, I have a big water filter that I have to get out of my house. Can I move that on my own? It's looking like probably no because I can't get the other half of the water out of

it. And eight pounds to the gallon plus filter media plus canister and I did try and you know what? I think if I did continue to try to do it by myself I would probably injure my back. So you know what we're gonna do? We're gonna go get assistance and a dolly. Yes. Because part of physical fitness is knowing your own limits and preventing injuries that will cause you more problems in the future.

I mean, there are things that happen to all of us that we can't prevent. Your wife's car accident, for instance. There was probably nothing she could have done to prevent that. I mean, she could have slowed down a little bit, but. Well, I'm just saying like, car accidents happen. Yes, sometimes the person that gets injured

is the one at fault, but I don't really know the story. So I'm assuming that she was probably attempting to drive reasonably safe. I just talked about that. I know the after effect of it. Yeah. Well, the after the after effect is that she had a, you know, she tore her right foot off, crushed her right leg, crushed her right arm. Right. She's she's dealing with lifelong injuries, some lifelong joint damage. but at the same time, like when the two of us decided to like start taking better care of ourselves, take better control of our diet. Her focus was losing weight because every every pound you have to carry on an already extremely damaged knee and hip and ankle is not helping the situation. Yeah,

absolutely. She was she was faced with the choice of get your weight down or cut your foot off. Like she was one of these was less permanent than the other. But what her doctor had left her left her at the point of was like, you're either going to lose 20 or 30 pounds, or you might as well make peace with having to get your foot removed and get a prosthetic because you're at that point where your ankle cannot take the strain at your weight and you are losing mobility and you're basically the doctor told her like you're reaching the point where you're not going to be able to walk very much because of your weight and not be able to walk very much is going to make your weight go up.

Yeah, absolutely. Well, so once you get to a certain point, it's too late to do anything about it except except what's coming. So at that point, failure at that point, at that point, Gillian and I made some serious dietary choices. We started walking four or five times a week. That's all it takes. I'm going to tell you, that little lady dropped 35, almost 40 pounds. She's walking again. She can go on hikes. I mean, not like crazy like you and I talk about the other day.

We talk about hiking. Absolutely. My family is not going to do a 10 or 15 mile hike. Gillian can't take it. Hyper doesn't really have the one. I wouldn't expect her to. But I'll tell you what, a two, maybe three mile hike, if the train's not too crazy, she could do that. I

mean, and she enjoys it. That's that is very impressive given the extent of her injuries that she had had. That's extremely impressive. I mean, if anything, that is a minor miracle of modern medicine, that they were able to put her back together that well. You know, I yeah. Well, truth of matter is that the doctor that put her foot back on said she'd never walk on it. So good. She's stubborn.

Imagine that. Any woman that can keep up with me must be a little bit stubborn. There you go. Hey, man, stubbornness has its benefits. It does. We call that strong willed when we're not using the dirty word. That's fine. But, you know, I mean, that was the thing of it is that my wife was focused on getting

her weight down for her joint health. And I was really focused on being able to better control my blood sugar. And yeah, I actually, my blood sure got out of whack a couple. It was within the last couple of weeks. And I was thinking about it. I think that's probably the first time in over a year. I've had an episode where lights and blusher got wildly out of whack. But that's exactly what happened to me this time. Like, I woke up in the morning. I was doing some work for disaster coffee. I was

working on I think, I think I woke up in the morning, I had to do some work for disaster coffee. I was doing something for the podcast. I was just I was working on I think I think I woke up in the morning. I had to do some work for disaster coffee I was doing something for the podcast. I was just I was working on a bunch of stuff Yeah, and I was doing got away from you I was doing the flight of the bumblebee routine running around the house and about one o'clock in the afternoon All of a sudden I had this dizzy spell out of nowhere Like you know, hey you had that moment where like you feel the world the whole room go whoo right right around real fast Well, I felt that and I was like whoa What's going on? Why do I feel this way? Yeah, I have not drank nearly enough to be this dizzy. I didn't I didn't feel hungry

I didn't feel like all the classic symptoms of Phil you stupid you you moron. You forgot to eat this morning I didn't feel any of that I just I felt dizzy all of a sudden. And then as soon as I felt that, I put this gear really quickly, like crap, I miss breakfast, it's one o'clock in the afternoon. It's got to be my lunch. So at that point, like I very quickly, I fried up some eggs, I grabbed some sausage,

you know, like load my body up with all the protein I can handle. And then the nausea started and then the migraine started. At that point, I was like, okay, I'm just along for the ride at a certain point. Like I know how my blood sugar works. And for anybody that deals with diabetes, this will probably sound very familiar to you. But like for me, once I hit a certain point in this escalating little, you know, little cascade effect, I am along for the ride. There is no stopping it. I'm going to get a migraine. I might throw up. throw up a point passed out once but that really wasn't fun. I don't want to do that again

Yeah, don't do that. But that's it is catastrophically low but I get to the point where the only thing I can do is Shove my body full protein to try to because I know that it will take longer than like a coke or some sugar would get My blood sugar propped up, but I know the protein will take longer than like a Coke or some sugar would get my blood sugar propped up But I know the protein will fix the problem. Yeah, the proteins a long-term fix The coke is a short-term fix with side effects. Yeah, so I loaded my body with protein eggs eggs Are a superfood if you are if you are diabetic or if you struggle with hypoglycemia And you don't like eggs treated like freaking medicine andicking medicine and start eating them. Because I'm telling you, I am convinced that adding substantial quantities of eggs in my diet

has helped more than any one single thing. Well, it's good proteins, good fats. It's got most of the fats your body needs in it right there. And they used to say that eggs are really bad for your cholesterol. I don't know. I've seen some other studies recently where that didn't seem to be nearly as true. What I'm going to say is this. I've done the research, I've read the studies. Let me give the experts and air quotes for just one brief moment that eggs

might not be the best thing to wall for you. Lots of cholesterol lots of fat blah blah blah Do you know what the long-term effects have in high blood sugar are high blood sugar Yes, it directly leads to heart disease. It directly leads to arterial disease. It encourages But see here's the thing the there are studies that show that increased cholesterol, if your blood sugar is low, don't cause any of those problems. There's a body of evidence out there

that says that cholesterol is good and cholesterol is bad. And you can get 10 nutritionists, you'll get 11 different opinions. But there is no nutritionist in the right mind that is going to tell you that having high Perpetually high blood sugar is a good thing. That makes sense So me being hypoglycemic where my blood sugar goes really high and they're really low and really high and really low I'm gonna address that problem and I'm going to fix that problem

And if the end result of that is that my cholesterol is a little bit too high But my blood sugar is where it's supposed to be if I have to make that trade I have to make that trade Yeah, I think you know at a certain point everybody has to make those trade-off decisions for themselves And this is one one good reason to experiment with your diet You know obviously I'm not saying experiment with your diet it as in eating two Twinkies and drinking a coke for breakfast, we all know that's a terrible idea. I mean, I know some people that have done it and they were not very old when they passed away. I will say this much though, kind of in the same vein as what we're talking about, one of our patrons, Tommy, recently talked about how I think he said he had gone full carnivore. Yeah. And he is diabetic and it has been

extremely helpful to him with his blood sugar. So like- Well, it's a more stable form of energy, the proteins and fats. You don't get the glycerin and insulin spikes. Yeah. So like I said, for Phil with his hyperactive pain, it is not glycerin. Yeah, it is. It is in my best interest that I do whatever I have to to keep my blood sugar within bounds. It is going to be better for me for long term health outcomes. It is better for me in the short term. The closer I stick to I even call it and get a diet because it's not a diet because it's I consider it like dietary guidelines

Sure, but the the closer within these boundaries I stick I feel better my joints hurt less I don't have you know, the shakes the migraines the headaches and everything from a blood sugar crashing My weight is naturally easier to control which is always been a problem for me like right now my wife and I are back on the, you know, gotta fight the battle of the bulge routine because I got up to like 250, which is heavier than I'm supposed to be. It creeps up on you quick.

Yeah, so and we're back to walking, we're back to watching what we eat. Like it's just, it's an odd. It is easier to do in the summer than the winter, even though your winters aren't really winter. But our winters are wet yes, that's what they make rain jackets for I Know you own them you live you live in what is probably nearly a swamp Well, we almost do live in a swamp, but for point of order, um,

if it weren't for the fact that we actually get a frost every year, we would this would be considered a tropical climate. Yeah. So in terms of temperature and rain. So you own a rain jacket is what you're telling me. All right. I do own a rain jacket, but we do not do we slack off in the winter. Okay, happy Hey, it happens to everybody. I also don't like to go for walks when it's minus 35. I Don't want to live when it's minus 35 Nick. Why do you do that? Cheers? No, it's not fine. There's nothing fine about it It's not buying I have insulated pants. It's fine But you know, I I don't want my organs aren't insulated enough for negative 35 It'll be all right. It your glasses will freeze the side of your head. It's no worries. They thought I back off

I will say this much The the snow we had the other day or you know this past winter my wife and I, she was enjoying it far more than I was. I was like, this sucks. We can tell. As bad as I imagined. But my wife was like, she wanted to go walk the neighborhood and I was like, okay. Well, halfway there, I began to realize

that not only was my beard accumulating snow, but it was starting to refreeze. Oh, yeah. Beard was crunchy. And I had I had like little tiny icicles trying to grow off the ends of my mustache. Oh, yeah. Yes. For you, this is like, oh, yeah, that's how it works. That's bog standard right there.

But but we've never had I've never seen 10 inches snow in life. So this was this was all very concerning to me. I'm like, why is my beard crunchy and glued to my chest? Well, you know, sometimes mother nature decides the water's gonna become solid water. And that's okay, Phil, it's a natural process. Yeah, it's only okay inside my freezer.

Well, it is good in the freezer, better than the alternative So, you know talking a little bit about different things you can do to improve your fitness going for walks Doing yoga doing stretching anything like that Kayaking is a great one for core for your core arms and shoulders if you have access to those sorts of things Hiking is phenomenal for your core, especially if you have a light to medium weight backpack on. I would say like hiking is probably my favorite and even if you don't have a backpack on, I really enjoy. Now you have to understand that when I say hiking,

most of the time when you're hiking, you're hiking on like a path, right? I really like some of the places I've been to hike where you you basically have a trail cut through the woods. Yep. So you're stepping on uneven terrain, you're stepping on roots. And that is the best thing because I find that the very thing that I need to I need to work on the most which is like the little like you said the little Stabilizer muscles like around your knee and around your ankles all that gets worked so much Does and then you'd be sore in all kinds of new places

well in the air thing I've noticed is that like Probably this is an indication that my back is not in the greatest shape But like I start to feel like a little bit of tension in my extreme lower back on your Side of my spine and I know it is because I'm having to like constantly work my you know work my core back and forth To balance myself. Do you have trekking poles? No, never used them. Try them get a pair of cheap ones from Walmart. Whatever. Don't worry about the weight of them They will get rid of that lower back stiffness and soreness

Almost immediately. I've always kind of looked at it as like It's just a chance to work a muscle that doesn't get work near off enough because like right problem Nick is that I work I work in a white collar office sure these days So in a nine-hour day I am looking for excuses to get up out of my desk and like walk or do something because I just hate sitting all day. But I also have days where I will literally plant my butt in a chair and accept to go to the break room for lunch, or the bathroom. I am welded to that

chair punching spreadsheets for a full day and it's I know it is the worst thing for my hip It's the worst thing for my back, right? But like that is that is the nature of my job and there's unfortunately There's a lot of people like we have we have patrons that are truck drivers. Guess what you do when you're a truck driver, you're sitting Sit there sit there and stare at the windshield for a whole day, you know It's like those are the those are the moments moments in time where those are the most difficult fitness situations in my mind. They can be.

Because you have to do your job, you have to pursue your career, but your career is sedentary. It absolutely is. But I'm not talking about removing that amount of effort from your hike because the effort is still there, but what it does is it gives you a third point of stabilization so you're not getting those shocks to your back and those shocks to your lower back. Okay, I see where you're going.

It makes such a huge difference. I think it would actually make, you should try a standing desk. That would actually might be great. Yeah, Rachel, ask her husband where I work and he will tell you that the chance of me getting a standing desk is We will find honest politicians before I managed to get a standing desk honest politicians in Illinois Even better. Yeah, although I did catch myself wondering the other day Where would you be more likely to find an honest or where would you be less likely to find an honest politician?

Louisiana or Illinois? Very bad, there's been a lot of smuggling in both for a very long time I mean, I don't I don't know that Louisiana or Illinois invented cricket politics, but they certainly worked hard to perfect them. They have been working very hard to perfect it for a very long time. But you know, I think that that would actually help your wife too a lot with her ankle of trying some tracking poles. That's actually worth pointing out to her. Because, you know, for me, I've got a knee that I injured in a dirt bike thing a long

time ago when I was a teenager. And then I hurt the other ankle in a different dirt bike thing. Both of them were stupid. I see a theme developing here. Yeah, vehicles and me, we don't get along. There's a reason why I own a pickup and nothing else but a lawn tractor. Vehicles and me, you know, I like going too fast too much.

So I keep away from the fast vehicles as much as humanly possible anymore. But it also takes those shocks out of stuff. So like, I know you guys have a lot of flatland hiking, but if you're anywhere where you're doing a little bit of stepping up, stepping down, it's additional points that you can apply pressure to that take pressure off of your joints So you're not creating those shocks and creating that that wear and tear on yourself

No, I mean that makes sense to me I'll bring an extra pair for you guys or two pair for when we go up to Michigan. You guys can try them out. I Won't turn it down. I'll mention it to Gillian too. I think she would really like it. My father-in-law, he's got a knee injury as well. And he used to get back pain a lot from hiking. And they really liked doing hiking.

But when we went to Tennessee with them this spring, they were keeping up and he said he had zero pain from any of it That's interesting. Yeah, he doesn't set a tracking pulse. They make a huge difference Let's dig into this last bullet point. This might be the one that surprises the audience Mental health. Mm-hmm can't have a healthy body without a healthy mind. I will be the first to admit There is some segment of the audience out there and I might have been guilty of this time or two and you probably are every now and then too that says feelings that sounds horrible. I don't have

those. There are times when feelings are inconvenient. That they are extremely inconvenient most of the time. But I will say wholeheartedly that you know, like if you, I think mental health, and we've talked about on the show circles we run in. And it really concerns me because like, I've never been particularly susceptible to like depression never been suicidal. I have had severe anxiety before. Sure, like a component of post-macc the post-macc stress disorder I had was anxiety, and survivor guilt and a couple other things. But like, I, if I had not done the work to address my

mental health back then, I am fully convinced I would not have gotten to the point I'm at today where I'm like, you know, a stable homeowner, a taxpayer, married, still married to my wife, 20 years after we met. Like I've, I've seen so many, so many other people from the veteran, the first sponsor community, neglect their mental health, sometimes out of fear of what it would mean for their career, absolutely, sometimes because there's just massive stigma in the world about admitting that you have a problem. And I've seen it lead to some of their death. I've seen it lead to a lot of them just falling short

of what they should have been and where they should have gone. Yeah, like people that people that were constantly making really unhealthy lifestyle decisions, because they were trying to find a way around the anxiety or a way around the depression or whatever self medicate. Yeah, self medicating. And as a huge one. Yeah, I mean, I jokingly tell people like yeah, I have a prescription for us cigars and coffee you know, I have to have it and I Don't know. I don't know if you call it a vice or medication

But like for me I always go back to this idea that like if you're neglect if you're if there's something going on in your mental health It deserves to be addressed. I think it also impacts your physical health because like there's absolutely does. There's a whole body of evidence out there that shows that if your mental health is, is in peril, it does cause your blood pressure to be higher, it causes a whole host of negative of negative effects on your body. And that's before we get to things like, because you're depressed, you overeat and that has its own problems or because you're anxious, you self-medicate and that has some problems like long term anxiety has zero positive impact.

No long term anything when it relates to mental health and understand that like when I say long term mental health, like, you know, we talked on the show before about like how my wife struggle with postpartum We talked about my post-mrc stress disorder most people that are out there have had some kind of traumatic event their life And they had to do a little bit of work to put themselves back together afterwards That's normal. It is I'm talking about when it goes on unchecked for years and years and years And it's like I tell people my Personal signpost for when something's a problem is when it stops you from doing what you want to do Yeah, like the moment at which my mental health started to interfere with the relationship. I was building with my wife

That was the moment at which I was like we have a problem This needs to get fixed and I was committed to fixing no matter what it took, because the other side of the equation was if I don't fix this, this is what's gonna cost me and I'm not willing to lose that. Absolutely. And killing made the same decision about postpartum, you know, like we, we limped along, we tried to we did everything we could to kind of like self rescue. And then when that wasn't working, and she realized that our relationship was

starting to drift apart She was like if I don't fix this I could lose my husband not acceptable. Yep So that's the that is always the thing I tell people when it comes to like caring for your mental health like there is no Downside to it your mind is part of your body man Well, yeah, my god your part of your body, man. Well, you can't live without it. Your mind drives your body. The same way that, like everybody's heard the anecdote of like the woman

who lifted a car off of her kids. You know, when the brain says you can do something, you can do it. When the brain says you can't do something, you also cannot. And when your brain says, I just wanna crawl in a hole hole and die guess what's gonna happen Like my experience with death has always been that you know

There are very few circumstances where a person is clinging to life with everything they have and their body lets go it happens It does it doesn't have there is damage so traumatic that you can't overcome it Yeah, but then there's situations where a person probably could have recovered But they give up up here and that's it there They will they will wither and die because their brain is just not driving them anymore. Yeah, absolutely me, you know Talk about anxiety You know, you're saying you're right. It causes higher blood pressure. It causes

Causes or is caused by higher cortisol levels which cause a few other Hormonal issues. Yep that can that can cause other health effects But joint inflammation tissue swelling. I mean Lower your immune system then you just then you just get sick more often, which makes you feel even worse. Not great. Not to mention, you know, a lot of the people that do try to self-medicate for anxiety,

try to self-medicate with things like alcohol. And yeah, I like an ice glass of whiskey as much as the next guy. Phil, I know you do too, but it is a glass of whiskey on occasion. Not a bottle every night to put yourself in bed. Exactly. If you feel like in order to function in an environment, you have to have that, that might be a sign that there's something going on, whether it's alcoholism or anxiety

that you're self-medicating, who knows? I mean... Now, here's a thought that dovetails into mental health, and I'm curious what you think, because not everybody agrees about this. Go for it. But do you believe that, do you believe that diet impacts mental health?

Absolutely, unquestionably it does. Because again, so does some people. Yeah, and the reason I bring that up is because like, you know, to tie this back to what we were talking about right before that, like, I know that when my blood, I know that like, the better I've done eating, the better I've done taking care of my body, the better I have felt. And not only that, but like the better able I've been able to deal with stress, the better I've been able to deal with just anxiety and all the things that life throws at me. And the times when I was, Ooh, I just had that thought. So the heaviest I've been in recent times and for anybody that's been around the show for a while. It was actually a prepper camp three Four years ago now, maybe through somewhere in there But there is that notorious picture that somebody took of me from the most unflattering angle Which was directly from the side of me and I looked like I was eight months pregnant

Yeah, I weigh happens to I weighed 267 pounds at the time of that picture. I was incredibly unhappy and reflecting back on that time, like admittedly, I kind of had the sword of Damocles hanging over my head back then for fear of losing my job for a variety of reasons. Sure. Stupid in my opinion. But I remember like there was a time when I was like, it's okay, you know, it is what it is. I'll land on my feet. I always do. I've got plenty of job skills. I'll find something. And then I remember this time where the anxiety really, really took, took hold of me hard. And I started going down the rabbit hole of,

it's going to come, I'm going to lose my job job, I'm gonna lose everything. And it never occurred to me until literally this moment that those two things were linked. Look, your body's meant to function within a certain range, right? So what you're telling me is 206, seven pounds and five foot 11 was not the range that might be that must be out of your range, man. I mean, I, I was, was it two years ago now, I was about 260, 265. I'm a little taller than you, not that much, but still too much. I was sleeping like crap,

I was feeling like crap, my allergies were worse. I was having a heartburn every couple weeks or every couple days sometimes. Horrible heartburn in the middle of the night. Which then made you not sleeping. Which makes you not sleep even more, which makes you feel even worse. So you're drinking a bunch more coffee, which is probably not helping the heartburn. Got down to about 225. the heartburn went away entirely. I started sleeping through the night without a problem. I don't snore anymore or not as much.

My dog now snores more than I do. We need to get her weight under control too. The neighbors like to feed my dog treats when we go for walks. We try to walk the dog for her fitness as well as ours. And sometimes we'll hit three different neighbors houses and all three of them will feed the damn dog. They're not helping. Nice people. My dog is too fat. I've tried to fix this. Stop feeding her. I was gonna say since you got me thinking about

it, like snoring and the heartburn and everything, I do remember that Andrew struggled with that too for a while. Yeah. And I'm not diming him out. He's talking about on this show. Yeah. Just spend a long, very long time. But since he's not here to defend himself, we can talk about him anyway. There you go. He can yell at me in the comments. This autumn, he'll it's for the it's for the good of group. It

is. But yeah, I do. I do remember that he may even he mentioned that like when his weight started creeping up the heartburn got really bad. I would love to blame his snoring on that. But I've known Andrew for a good long while and we've not slept together. That'd be weird, but we have slept in tents not far away from each other on several occasions and he snores like a son of a bitch and chainsaw and he's done that plus or minus 20 pounds. So I don't think the weight's the problem. Well, you know, it might not be, it might be just how his sinuses are, but for me the additional weight

Definitely was I mean if you look at a picture of me from a few years ago My face looks wildly different than it did before than it did does now Just because of the weight gain and I think that was causing breathing constriction It it usually does you know, I can't imagine it helps you suddenly have me wondering what I look like underneath this beard Shave it off No Dude, do you know how long it takes to look a long time killing? It's it is effort

Gillian and I just cut like a couple inches off of it because it was getting a little bit woolly and Like it takes years. Oh to get to this length. Oh, it absolutely does. And I'm just giving you credit. Every once in a blue moon, I look at my face and I'm like, what do you look like underneath that? I mean, I've, I've, I've seen like the pictures of me when I was in the army. So obviously there was a time when I was bald headed by choice and had no beard.

But, uh, the last time I didn't have facial hair was when I got married on my wedding day. Well, besides, you're not redoing that one. No. And if I shave, if I completely shave, my daughter has vowed to never speak to me again. Also, you'll probably get a headache from all the from from the loss of hair weight pulling your skin down. There was a girl that I was in high school with, she had really long hair. She shaved her beard off? No, she was donating her hair to one of those locks of love or something.

Yeah, that must be the one. She said it was the wildest thing. She got her hair all cut down to like five or six inches long from like down to her butt. And she said it was fine for about 20 minutes and all of a sudden she had the worst migraine she had ever had. And when she talked to her hairdresser, told her that if you remove that much hair that quickly, it changes the pressure on your scalp and it can cause migraines and headaches

It's wild new fear unlocked. I know right so shave your beard. You're gonna get a headache maybe This just convinces me that now Men are not supposed to shave probably not. I mean, I can't grow a beard I look like a ragged homeless person if I don't shave every day. But you don't know where I inherited the Viking gene from, but I'm thankful for it. It's winning right there. It's glorious. But you know, your brain is another part of your body, and if you don't have the right nutrients in your body, you get muscle cramps. So if you don't have the right nutrients in your body, you get muscle cramps. So if you don't have the right nutrients in your body, your brain's not going to work

right. It doesn't seem to me that there's any way you could argue that your diet does not impact the way you think or your mood or your hormone levels, just like anything else. You're not going to see Michael Phelps eating gummy bears and ice cream and then going and performing well in the Olympics. It's not going to happen. Yeah. And you know, like for without getting into like zombie apocalypse talk, but like my focus

on my focus on maintaining my health has always been two things. It has been in moments of extreme need. I would really like my body to do what my brain commands it to. Absolutely. So I can take care of myself, take care of my family, do what has to be done. But also because I've watched several people get into advanced age and fall apart. Yep. It does not take much. I have seen I have

seen people on the other side of 65 who are on like five and six daily medications. And I'm not talking about like, they've been died back their whole lives, they have to have insulin. But I'm talking about like, they let their blood sugar get out of control for too many years. So now they're insulin dependent, or they're on blood pressure medication and 10,000 other things. And I'm just like, I look at all of that and I think to myself, I'm like, what is my survivability really like if I need a daily cocktail of five or six drugs to keep alive? And what is that quality of life

that if I miss this drug for more than a couple of days, something really bad happens, I want to be in the hospital. That worries me from the perspective of if things suddenly go sideways, but it also makes me think to myself, I want the way I explained it to my wife was because we talked about what our fitness goals were, and I told Gael and I'm like, my fitness goals are, I don't ever want to run a six minute mile. Sure. Not not not even in my priority order. I don't care if

I never bench 200 pounds. Not in my priority. Don't care. But I do want to be that guy that is out in the front yard 65 years old ripping brakes off this truck and doing brake jobs. I want to be that guy that's 65 years old, maintaining my lawn, maintaining my property, working on stuff around the house. I want to be the guy who's out there with his wife hiking in his retirement, making the young guys huff and puff and look stupid because it can't keep up with the old fart. We ran into a couple the second time we went down to the Smoky Mountains at the top of a waterfall at the end of like

Six and a half mile just out and we had six and a half miles to go back This couple was in their late 70s and they were doing the same trail and they looked just fine. I was dogged But see that's that is my fitness goal. That's a good goal. That's what I, that's what I want. I want living to old age means nothing to me. If I have to spend the last 10 or 20 years of my life, basically bedridden going from the bed to the couch, because that's as far as I can go without keeling over. Like living to old age means nothing to me. If I have to spend it in a hospital bed or in a in a in an old

folks home because I didn't take care of myself. Quality of life is important. Quality of life is my goal. It is my goal. Now is my goal later. It is all about quality of life. It is what can I do to make this very broken, fairly abused body continue to do the things I want to do now at 42? And what can I do to make sure that in 20 or 25 or 30 years, I can still do those things? Yeah. And I keep coming back around to the simple idea that it's about staying active. It is it's about treating your body a little bit appropriately every now and then and just focus it not so much.

To me, it is all about focus on not losing anything. Yeah. Because once you get to this side of 40 free testosterone starts to go down. If you don't work at it, muscle mass starts to decrease. And those are all things that I have the ability to kind of like, you know Hold it Bay or make progress on as Long as I spend kind of the same conversation we had about diet. It's not never eat pizza It's just eat eggs more than pizza, right?

Well, if I make the decision that every now that I want to sit on the couch and watch a show with my wife, that's fine. Yeah. But our asses better be outside walking four or five times that week. If I want to be walking when I'm 65. Absolutely. And especially my wife with her ankle injury, me with multiple injuries to multiple joints. I have a decision to make of like, do we want to be ambulatory and in good health in our old age? Do we want to be able to go out and do things? Or do we not? And I've seen older couples who are basically spending their

retirement hobbling around waiting till the end. And I'm like, I don't want that. Nope. I want to be I want to be 70 years old embarrassing, half my age because y'all can't keep up with the old fart who's out here kicking ass and taking names. That sounds like a great plan to me. Yeah. But like you said at the very beginning of the show, neither of us are pinnacles of physical fitness and neither of us are going to be modeling for

underwear ads anytime soon. And I don underwear ads anytime soon and I don't frankly care and I don't think Nick does. Rachel might disagree but you know, I think the two of us both agree that we're much more focused on like practical strength, practical flexibility and balance. We're focused on maintaining our bodies the best we're able so that they do what they're supposed to do when called upon. Do what they're supposed to do, do what we want them to do. And so you don't hurt every day.

I mean, I am told, I was told by a doctor that the, the normal amount of pain is zero on a daily basis. I'm not sure he wasn't lying to me but I mean far be for me to argue with the doctor no I do it all the time I was about to say like I've never done that before but I don't think he's ever met many combat veterans because or moat our workers yeah I mean for some of us Motrin is a food group. Change your socks drink some water take a Motrin. Yes Yes, so the water is if water is one we probably should have thrown in here if If you're not drinking an ounce per kilogram per day

You're not drinking enough water Does it count if I pour my water through coffee beans? No, it does not because coffee's a diuretic. I don't believe you. Coffee, coffee's absolutely a diuretic. So I drink a lot of coffee and I pee a lot, so the water's gotta be coming from somewhere. Yeah, it's coming from where it should be, in your body.

Well, then I'm replenishing it with more coffee. Hey, man, when you get when you get to pee out rocks, don't come bitching to me is all I'm saying. Thank you, Nick, for giving me that to look forward to. You're welcome. OK, I guess we'll go ahead and so this one up. Nick is going to shame me and drink water. I actually do drink water occasionally.

I just like coffee much, much better. Hey, look, I like coffee a lot better too, but I mean, just do this. Keep one of these with you all day, or like I do two of them or three of them, whatever, and try to drink about an ounce of water per kilogram of body weight. And that gets you kind of in a ball bat.

2.2 pounds to the kilogram. So divide your weight in half and that's how many ounces of water you should drink, round about. I was gonna make a joke about communist math, but you know. Communist math, cocaine bundles, whatever you gotta do. So, okay. So you, you, you could have said drink one drink, one, one ounce of water per

cocaine bundle weight. Yes. Okay. See, I will measure anything in bundles of cocaine. Yes. In bundles of cocaine or like jugs of milk, anything that doesn't involve using the metric system. That's fair.

The only thing I'm willing to measure in metric is ammunition. Fair enough. Yep. The ultimate screw you to Europeans. They gave us a metric system and we use it for nothing except measuring ammunition. Fair enough. Not everybody. All right. Matter of fact, podcast going to go out the door. I'm going to go tend to my mental health with probably more coffee.

Just piss Nick off. That's fine. Talk to you on a week. Good night, everybody. So Thanks for watching!