The Prepper Broadcasting Network - Matter of Facts: Hold On Tight

Episode Date: February 3, 2025

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Welcome back to the Matterfags Podcast on the Prepper Broadcasting Network. We talk prepping guns politics every week on iTunes, Stitcher, and Spotify. Go check out our content at MWFpodcast.com on Facebook or Instagram. You can support us via Patreon or by checking out our affiliate partners. I'm your host Phil Raveley. Andrew and Nick are on the other side of the mic and here's your show. Yeah, welcome back to MatterFacts Podcast. We have survived another week. So the thaw didn't, so the snow didn't kill me,

the thaw didn't kill me, and it's back up to like 71 degrees as of right now. So that is just the roller coaster, the southeast Louisiana weather. We had an 89 degree temperature swing. From what to what? Negative 35 last week to 54 today. That is that. OK, listen.

Welcome to the Midwest. Mother Nature is drunk. Somebody needs to come down here and get her because I thought she was just drunk in my front yard, but apparently she's just drunk everywhere. No, man, that's the standard Midwest. We get this shit all the time. Okay. Well, forgive me, but after nine and a half inches of snow, I just assumed that all hell's broken loose everywhere. I just assumed that all hell is broken loose everywhere Yes Kyle I understand there are no pictures of Nick in the intro to be fair that intro is two years old and

Nick was not on this side of the microphone back then but I have promised him him and myself and asked my wife to help That when we see when we are all in person together up in Michigan in a couple of months we will get sufficient pictures and video to redo that intro mm-hmm I'll figure it out at least at least that's the plan hopefully it goes better than most of the other plans I make because those tend to fall apart very quickly well if your wife knows she's supposed to take pictures and my wife knows they're supposed to take pictures, some pictures will be taken.

Thank Christ for our spouses. Dude, I tell you, it's that and preloading my pants the night before. The only reasons why I'm a respectable adult. Sounds fair. Okay, Kyle, I don't know if Nick is I can't grow a beard. I actually cannot. I look like a teenage homeless person. If I go without shaving for more than two days. I mean, that's a genetics thing.

I didn't even grow this until I got like deep into my 30s. I was like, oh, I can grow a beard. Yeah, no couldn't in my 20s like deep into my 30s and I was like, oh I can grow a beard Yeah, I know couldn't in my 20s Or most of my 30s, but anyway admin work really really quick Thanks. Thanks all the patrons. Thanks for keeping the show funded If not on the rails y'all are no good at keeping the show on the rails, but it's more fun off the rails So there is that if you like fun cheeky t-shirts, there's links for merch down the show description You should check those out support a small business and I mean small business is doing the merch fulfillment and production not our autistic selves and

Cypher survivalist so we've been talking about this my wife and I and and my sister my brother lost started non-profit Start doing some preparedness events in southeast, Louisiana First one's coming up March 8th at Found Blue State Park. And I realized literally this past week when my wife was starting to put out some social media advertising about it, I have never mentioned that when you go to Found Blue State Park, it's at the big pavilion. Now, anybody that's in this area or looks at a state park map should be able to figure out the big it's at the big pavilion. Now, anybody that's in this area or looks at a state park map should be able to figure out the big pavilion is the big pavilion.

But if you are planning on coming, you will have to pay three bucks ahead to the state park to get in. Sorry, that's just the cost of doing business, but it goes to keeping a really cool park open. And then you literally drive straight down the road all the way just about till you end up in the lake and you'll see me waving at you and not doing cartwheels or anything because if I do that I'm gonna be in traction.

That's it for admin work work great success so we were gonna talk about this last week, but You know talking about snowpocalypse kind of ran long and it's a good thing we didn't because there's been so much It's happened the last seven days. Yes many many things But some good some, some questionable. Yeah. So for anybody that's been living under a rock, um, the orange man is back in the white house in the executive branch behind the desk on the Oval Office.

And, um, the freak out has been real. Oh yes. The freak out has been real. Oh, yes. The freak has been real. The. Where do I even start with all this? I I like I remember on the campaign trail, he plainly said he had a lot to do really quickly, but he was literally in the Oval Office signing executive orders within hours of being sworn in. And it hasn't stopped Nick. Like that's what you and I were talking about.

The show started like we could do this show every six hours and have new stuff to talk about because it's coming out so freaking fast right now. Yeah, we could. We probably could. I mean, I personally am not a big fan of, I'm going to call it legislation by executive order. I'm not a big fan of that. Well, the left has been doing that for a very long time. And taking the high road does not seem like a winning position. It's not been a winning position. So playing, but playing by the rules when you're the only side playing

by the rules always ends poorly. When it comes to executive orders, my position is I hear what you're saying. I don't like the idea of. Legislating from the Oval Office, but the purpose of executive orders, whether they're used this way or not, is to communicate to the federal agencies. Yep. Like it is to direct the federal agencies. You will do ABC XYZ.

And the ones that are doing that, I'm all behind that. Yeah, that's fine. Now, the minute we start talking about trying to circumvent Congress, like even if even if I think it's a good idea, we probably shouldn't be trying to do it that way. No, on principle, we shouldn't be doing that. But Congress should also be doing its job in passing single subject bills. Do you want to be the preacher or the choir, but we can't, we can't just do this back and forth the whole night. I mean, technically we can, we have microphones and no one has stopped us yet. But yes. And you know,

and the other thing of it is that even if you don't want to use like the moral argument of, well, we shouldn't legislate from the Oval Office, it's not the right way to do things. It's not the way you want to do things because it means that in three years and like 11 and a half months, the next guy could do exactly what Biden did at the end of Trump's first term and shred everything you did via EO in 15 seconds. Yep. So it really is a better idea to push these priorities through the legislative process rather than try to circumvent Congress,

even as I acknowledge that Congress is very hesitant to put their names on anything that could get them kicked out of their seat of power. And they are very happy to advocate their authority to the president. And that's kind of how we got to where we are today in a lot of ways. Yeah. That Congress refusing to do the hard things is why we are agreed in the, in the position that we are now.

Now that the problem with that is being a politician has become a career. Yep. And it was this country. It was not meant to be your career. You were supposed to come serve the people for your term and then go the fuck home to deal with the problems you made. Agreed. And that dovetails nicely into the first little thing I put up here

Trump's OPM speaks Fedditor's freak out For anybody not familiar with the term Fedditor is So there are a number of subreddits on reddit and I will be the first to admit that Reddit is kind of digital cancer in a lot of ways. I mostly Check it out every now and then to see what people are saying when they think they have anonymity and where they don't expect any pushback. And most people that know me, I mean, I don't I don't know any unreasonable people because if they were unreasonable I wouldn't keep them around. But I like to know what the unreasonable people are saying when they think they're only talking to themselves. So anyway, there are a number of subreddits on Reddit that are filled to the brim with very angry, very histrionic, very, very, very histrionic federal employees.

And they are collectively losing their entire crap because the orange man is telling them that he's in charge which he kind of sort is and That he wants to make changes to how they're doing their jobs Which I never heard this much complain or push back when Biden was in charge or Harris or whoever was in really in charge And the two of them were just the one there. I don't know that Biden really sent any directives to federal employees. Like there were some, but I don't recall him making, aside from reversing any of Trump's orders, which the federal employees were already fighting anyway and already against anyway, I don't recall him making any grand sweeping changes.

COVID vaccines? Do we have to go there? It's 2025. Yeah, but he didn't make those changes. That was a Trump thing. That he tried to mandate the entire federal workforce to take them? I believe it was. At least there was talks of the mandate before.

Well, maybe I'm misremembering. It's been a hot minute. I mean, it has been a hot minute. And I'm not a fed. Yeah. Thank God for that. You would friggin', you would commit seppuku with a pair of office scissors.

My sister insists that I am just Ron Swanson with less facial hair. She thinks that one day I will start working for the government just to be an obstructionist. I mean, Nick, USAjobs.com, bud. Nope. No, no, no, no, no, no. I like my CNC machines and my micrometers.

I am sticking to that. I am happy there. I don't have to deal with the general public. I don't have to deal with the general public I don't have to deal with politicians most of the time most of the time No, you just have deal with politicians because you live in, Illinois. Yes But and there's hoping that one last cheeseburger will really get the cardiac going. Oh So anyway, yeah, I mean mean You know places that were once Playa places that were once discussing things like job openings or you know, like they were actually like reasonably wholesome

kind-hearted places to be and people were uplifting each other and people were trying to support each other and advising each other have descended into literally exactly what the news is claiming they are. Like I'd be the first to admit that like depending on which side of this this situation you're on and what new sources you subscribe to like you could be forgiven for thinking that some of the more strident warnings about how like the whole federal government is trying to subvert Trump, you could be forgiven for thinking that's a lot of hyperbole.

And I would say it is hyperbole for the entire government, comma, however, comma, there are quite a few people if they are to be judged by their words who are absolutely dead set on anything Trump says we want to fight against it. We want to be as obstructionist as possible for the next four years. Some advocating for outright rebellion. Some are. Yeah, some are. Some are using those exact words, rebelling against Trump. Yeah. And now the frustrating part of this to me is that, you know, like, would you fight me if I, if I insinuated that the federal workforce is skewed towards the Democrats?

No, I wouldn't. I mean, it's, it is a workforce that attracts collectivism. Yes. Now I, we could have a very roiling debate about what that skew is, what that that makeup is, but it is skewed towards Democrats, it's skewed towards liberalism, progressives. It just is. But it is.

Yeah, conservatives are less, are less predisposed to utilizing government authority. They would rather handle the problem on their own, just as a general personality type. And even if that only starts as a skew of 0.01%, if 0.01% are more likely to be leftists, those leftists will try to hire people that are like themselves,

because that is what leftist ideology pushes. And so you eventually get an escalating skew, which is what we're seeing now. Yeah. And the hard part about this situation is like, you know, for every person who is a screeching nutcase about this right now, there's somebody else out there in probably the exact same office

that thinks their coworker is just out of their freaking mind. There's a lot of independents and a lot of moderates who, I'll be honest, from like January 20th forward, don't seem to be that upset about things. They're just kind of like moving out, like, do my job. And my position on like the federal workforce, and Nick, I don't think you'll fight me on this. But if you disagree, I'd love to hear it. But like, you know, my position on the federal workforce is that I, I would allege that the president is kind of the CEO of the federal workforce, but I don't think he is ultimately the federal workforce's boss.

I think the voters are. So here's, here's where my thought, it would be like a shareholders versus CEO sort of thing. Yeah. Yeah. So my position is kind of like, you know, if the people of this country have decided through their elected representatives that the government needs to be downsized, then quit bitching about it and just accept the fact that the government's going to be downsized. Some agencies are going to go away, some jobs are going to go away because that is what the voters want to happen. And the voters

are ultimately the bosses of the federal workforce. And if the voters determine that the other elected representatives, the priorities of the government are going to change, they're going to change. They rightfully should. So I guess to me, the thing that frustrates me is this idea that like this very bureaucratic look down their nose opinion that seems to be forming of we know better. We know better than the president. We know better than the White House. We know better than the voters. We know how things really work here. And I just keep going back to this idea that like, you know, very much, very much. And I'll admit, when I was in when I was enlisted, and for the years after I was enlisted, I had a very, very sharp opinion of civilian oversight of the military. Sure, I did. I was very critical of it. I felt like a lot of the problems that we had it when I was in Iraq, were directly linked to the fact that people that knew nothing about what we were doing were in charge. Yeah, but as I but as I've aged I've come around to the idea that the alternative is worse. You

want a perfect example of that. Look at World War II Japanese military atrocities. Yes. That was a military with no civilian oversight. Yeah, and it really is it sounds just probably somebody out there rolling the rise of this but like It is almost like the argument of like the civilian ownership of firearms all over again Is the end result of the civilian ownership of firearms that sometimes people do really stupid things and firearms and hurt people? Absolutely freaking lootly but every time in history, you've taken everybody's guns away, really bad things have happened on a really mass scale. So I always go back to this idea that like,

even if we're not going to address the fact that everyone has a moral right to defend themselves, if you want to use the if you want to use the utilitarian argument of the lesser of two evils, people being armed is still less than all the atrocities committed by governments when their people were disarmed. So I guess my position is does, does civilian oversight of the military sometimes make the military's job more difficult? Absolutely. Is it better than the alternative? Yes, it is. It took me well into my 30s to realize that.

Found so far. You know, it's just it's just like democracy. Yeah, democracy is a terrible form of government, except for all of the other forms of government we found are worse. Yeah, I got to address rattle fraggle. I don't know if rattle fraggle means those jobs don't go away to get absorbed somewhere else. So the intention is for is to reduce the size of the federal workforce. We will see if that is what occurs. That's what I'm gonna say. Yeah. So but let me just let me just say like to address what he's saying, kind of. So in order, let's say hypothetically, an agency gets shuttered or job series or a group of work unit, a line of business or

whatever. You're all you are all quote unquote laid off. They call it riff in the federal government reduction of force. When that happens, those employees get hiring preference for any open positions in the federal government. So Kinda yeah, they do get absorbed somewhere else But the point is is that if they're filling those jobs that would have otherwise been filled by people off the street Then the total number of open positions stabilizes because we had 20 people that were in this office got shut down We had 20 open positions, these people filled that and that's still a red, that's still that's not a

reduction. But it is better than these 20 still work and 20 new people still work. So and I mean, you could argue that shouldn't be the way it works. But quite frankly, this way the private sector works. It does if it does the same thing. If you shut down a work unit, the first thing that company does is try to reabsorb those people into the fold somewhere else. Like my father went through that when I was young, being put into a talent pool and then finding a new job in the company. Like

that's, that's normal. But anyway, so that's why I wanted to take a minute to talk about like, yes, technically, they don't go away. But there's nuance to that. And I don't think the nuance makes it a bad thing. We, I'm going to say we will see because if they do decide to reduce force drastically across a number of places, yes, there are going to be a lot of people that are leaving for ideological reasons, just like any other job. Yes, there will be people leaving, maybe taking early retirement

and taking their seven months severance that they're offering, because that's a pretty nice pad to your retirement. Seven months severance is nothing to sneeze at. But if it results in a net decrease overall, even if it's a small net decrease overall, it's kind of a win. I'm going to take it as a little bit of a win. Yeah, I'll be honest. The the thing you're talking about, the seven month severance, I don't know.

I'll be honest because that that letter is not like a state secret. It's been reposted on social media 15 different times. But looking at it. I don't. So I know that a friend of ours in, in our little friendly chat brought up that he felt like this was Trump's attempt to like cleave the government of liberals and a popular repopulated with Trump loyalists. And the thing of it is, is that like, that's the intent. Well, but I don't, I don't think this works for that

because best I'm aware, like the people that the White House could appoint to these agencies, these federal agencies are the SESs or the special executive service. And those all go through best I'm aware, congressional, congressional confirmation. And they're basically Trump appointees already. So like Trump doesn't have to offer this to get rid of those people.

He literally just tells all the heads of these agencies, I want your resignation on my desk by noon, and they're gone. And then he puts in whoever he wants. So the SES is enough, they're on the chopping block. Your GS-15s and under, who are arguably the real horsepower of every agency. Those are your policy makers, those are your implementers, those are your upper and mid-level managers,

those are your senior employees, that's the horsepower of an agency. They're, I can't, I mean, I can't see this being a super palatable option for most of them, unless they are so ideologically bent that they just refuse to work for Donald Trump. And then this is their enticement to go ahead and go. I don't think this, I don't think this, this letter it is an incentive for people that were already thinking about walking out the door to walk out the door so that number one, you don't have to fire those people.

And so that's gonna create open positions in places that are not, that you didn't have to create. And then when you do restructure your force, you have more job openings in more places to put some of the people you would want to keep. Yeah. And thanks for the reminder piece to everybody hit the like button. It does help and the comments help to mostly they help to divert us from taking ourselves too seriously.

You know, it's like, it's it's like, it's like a little bowl that you just released into the China shop of my mind. Exactly. Watching you get sidetracked. Yeah. And then you can just hear the breaking glass and the screaming. Anyway. So yeah, all that, all that has happened. And I'm sure by the time this podcast, like by the time we finished streaming this, there'll be something new going on. But I can tell you that like everything the orange man is doing right now has a segment of this population extraordinarily upset,

including apparently making good on campaign promises to take people who illegally entered this country and bringing them home to where they belong. So, um, I, I don't think I have ever seen a president to presidents play F A F O like this publicly in my lifetime. It's been kind of interesting to watch. Look, the president of Columbia's economy is smaller than most of our states economies. Unless you include their cocaine exports, which I don't think are included. No, I think even including their cocaine exports.

I'm saying if you don't include that, then it's miniscule. Oh, yeah. Yeah. If you don't include the cocaine, but look, I'm sorry, Colombia does not have negotiating power in this. They just don't. Their lever isn't big enough. Their economy isn't big enough to actually threaten the US in any meaningful way. Oh darn, coffee is going to get more expensive. Fine.

I'll pay for that. I'm not going to stop drinking coffee because it doubled in price. Yeah, and and raggle fraggle. To be specific, I think the president was probably indulging in cocaine when he made the announcement that that that the RC 17s couldn't land on his soil. But we get coffee from many, many places in the world or than just Columbia. But that's another episode. But it was interesting to watch. I mean, this is a perfect example of what you and I had mentioned earlier that Trump's tariff threats

are a negotiating tactic. They are a negotiating tactic first. They are not the ends that he is trying to get to. And look at that, lo and behold, within an hour, we can now deport people to Columbia. Yep. People that Columbia clearly doesn't want in Columbia. So why the heck would we want them here? Well, Nick, didn't you get the memo that like the United States is the dumping ground for everyone's illegal, everyone's undesirables period in

discussion. I mean, okay, that used to be Australia. Well, we've seen how that turned out. Sidebar. So I know I was talking to y'all the all patrons about this, but I do occasionally chuckle at the idea that there there was pre Louisiana purchase when the French had control of Louisiana before the Spaniards took back control of it before we bought it. Well anyway way way way back in the day there was actually a program sponsored by the King of France where he would pay somebody he would pay able-bodied men to get on a boat to come to you know populate Louisiana and settle and everything in the name of the king. And the only stipulations were, once you came here, you could not come

back and you had to take a French prostitute from prison to be your wife to go with you. Yep. And I'm like, so get out. Yeah. So let's analyze this. There is a much less than 0% chance if you if your family traces its roots pack to France and you live in or about you know, the boot of the of the Louisiana purchase that you might be the product of vagabonds and hookers. There are worse people to be products of at least. But does

that explain so many things about what explains Louisiana? Yeah. I mean, look, yes. The back in the day, they used to dump a lot of people they didn't want anywhere else because it was pretty hard to get back. But we're now a real country and we need to start taking ourselves as seriously as we used to. I mean, look, if the president of Columbia is willing to, well, at least for an hour, willing to start a trade war with the US over these people, how bad are they? How bad are some of these people, how bad are they? How bad are some of these people?

Fraggle, fraggle. I trace mine to the Canucks that got kicked out, actually. So that will be another funny story for us to have at another time when we talk about the origin of the Cajuns and how they got deported by the English because they wouldn't swear fealty to the king they got deported by the English because they wouldn't swear fealty to the king Or the queen but anyway, that's a that's a lengthy discussion Yeah, but you know those those quote-unquote Canucks probably came from the same That was your furnace wasn't it? I think it was I I didn't think it was gonna come on cuz it's 54 degrees outside Anyway, that's hard. My bad. I usually try to tap the mic when I hear that coming on.

Now you're good. I just heard it. And I was like, that's a good, that's a good noise. Yeah. But yeah, man, I mean, Columbia, Columbia's entire country to me lacks either the financial or the military horsepower to tell us, no, we're not taking our own people back But I had this I had this thought and I don't know where it came from today But I know that there's that group people out there that is still insisting We need a legal pathway to citizenship for the people that are here like rather than deport them We need to figure out a way to like especially for

rather than deport them, we need to figure out a way to like, especially for people that are brought here as children really didn't have really didn't come here of their own volition. They were just kind of drug over the border and now they're here and they this is the only country they've ever grown up knowing. Those are the people I do have some sympathy for. It is it is not their fault, but I'm sorry it is their problem. They should take it up with their parents. Yeah. And it like me, me being me, it's a difficult, it's a difficult position not to empathize with, especially people that are brought here as children or the people that were. I can empathize with crack addicts too, but that doesn't mean that it's not their problem. Yeah. Yes. Am I an asshole? Absolutely. Convicted. But here's the thing. You know what conclusion I came to after the at the end

of this whole, oh, that really sucks. I wish we could do something. I came back to the inescapable conclusion that we do have a pathway towards citizenship. And if the White House wanted to, let's say offer something where like, hey, you're here, you didn't come over your own volition, you can apply for citizenship, we will defer your deportation. Sure. As long as you don't do any stupid stuff, breaking laws, murder, rape, pillage, none of

that nonsense. As long as you stay on the straight and narrow, you might have to back pay some taxes because let's call what it is If you're you know, but a lot of those kids if they were brought here as children They have been paying taxes if they're adults now and and that's fair program and a few others I mean we've we've got a pathway if you did not have a choice in coming here So same thing of people that are trafficked and they come here without their free will. Like, you know, the massage parlor girls

and the sex workers that people do traffic here, which is terrible. In my opinion, those people should get a priority over the adults who knowingly broke the law to get here. Yeah, now the only hard part is gonna be be how do you cleave those two populations from each other because you and I both know that the minute you say, oh, but look, you can have an exception, everyone's going to find a way to apply for it. It's like the whole issue with the people who claim for asylum at the border.

They hand out leaflets that tell them exactly what to say so that they so that border patrol cut them loose and let them come into the country it's Any any system can be abused and that's why That's why Totally get where joe's coming from saying haven't grown up in cali. I don't care send them all back. I totally get that I I don't know like to me. It me, it's a really crappy situation, but at the end of the day,

I would say for like 95% of the people that have entered this country illegally, you came here knowing you were breaking the laws, you came here with total disregard in your heart and mind for our nation and our nation's laws. And if all 100% of that 95% or that 90% of that whatever gets rounded up and shipped back to where they came from I don't even see that as like victimizing them or doing something against them because all I'm doing is sending you back to Where you came from when you shouldn't come here in the first place at least not the way you did look I see this

Yes, there is no perfect solution for this. We have to accept that. Innocent people that should not be harmed are probably going to be harmed in this process. You cannot have anything to do with millions of people that goes perfectly. But we have to do the hard things in order to make it better in the future.

How are we going to clear the backlogs for all of these immigration courts if we first don't get rid of all as many of the people as we can that we know are a problem, which is why they've been starting with the violent criminals. Congrats, no fucking brainer. I mean, it's not like they're rounding up the lady that works at the local restaurant first. No, they're targeting MS-13. They're targeting the Latin Kings.

They're targeting the cartels that we know that are here illegally and doing violence against American citizens. Yes, absolutely. Let's start with the very worst and ship them the hell home. Because you know what, nobody's going to have a legitimate argument against that. And then we can start working on the harder edge cases. I so wish I thought friggin make a banner for this. But Nick, tell me you tell me you've you've been watching. I'm hoping you don't watch too much mainstream news because it is it is brain cancer in digital form. But have you heard the people that are literally arguing that we can't deport illegal immigrants because who will pick our crops for us?

All right. So I mean, yet again, just hold up, hold up, hold up. Wait, wait, wait, wait, just just go for it. No, no, I don't I don't want to say anything. Just just say that back to yourself. Oh, yeah. Oh, I know. Out loud. Say it back to your will pick the cotton. I know. Good Christ. It is a yes. There is there is going to be this cringe take.

I have heard in such a long time. I mean, yes, it is. It is a shitty take, but they do kind of have a point of there are a lot of migrant workers on visas that do work for our farms. But most of them are migrant workers on a visa and therefore lawfully in the country.

So it's not a problem for them. Okay, great. If a farm is hiring a bunch of illegals, number one, they're probably paying them dog shit under the table. So they're taking advantage of these people anyway. Number two, their living conditions are probably atrocious because they don't have to keep up with health and safety standards because the government doesn't know to look into these

people. And so what? Oh great, we need more victims. I don't know man. Joe said the crop picking thing was a three hour morning show on our local radio show. I'm just look, I'm just I'm just saying I heard I the first time I heard someone say that out loud. I thought to myself, Okay, this is a singular, singular, very dumb person. And if they

had said that out loud and listened to themselves, they might have caught themselves. I don't think they would know. I don't think they would because look, Nancy Pelosi is a perfect example of this. During COVID when everyone was losing their employment, she's standing in front of a $30,000 sub zero freezer, holding up $100 pints of ice cream. Talking about how we're all suffering the same. Now these people just like someone to stand on the back of. That's really what it comes down to.

They can't see themselves doing that work because they think that work is degrading. No, it's an honest living. And there's an awful lot of people, especially in some of the Rust Belt areas of this country that have been denied an honest living. And there's an awful lot of people, especially in some of the Rust Belt areas of this country, that have been denied an honest living through the importation of hyper cheap labor. Yeah, I was just gonna say that.

Open Borders was a Koch brothers scheme for many, many years. Hell, Bernie Sanders rallied against it for decades. Was that before or after the DNC handed him hush money? That was before. Ah, funny how that works out. Yep. But you know, I did. PCG has a good point here.

Starship Troopers. The movie was bad was bad in the best possible ways, but service guarantees citizenship. That is an idea. I mean, what kind of service? We could debate that, but I have a thought about this actually. There is a pathway through military service for non-citizens to earn citizenship, and there has been forever.

Yep. through military service for non-citizens to earn citizenship. And there has been forever. Yep. In fact, the entire life of the country, if I recall correctly. So if memory serves me, I think I was an AIT with a guy from the Philippines. Sure. But anyway, the Americans, Philippines or the other Philippines? How many different Philippines are there? Well, because while there, I believe some of the Philippines are US territories. You're asking me to dig back through 25 years of head injuries and bad decisions. I'm fairly certain at least some of the Philippines are still US territories.

Yes, but again, you're asking me to dig through 25 years of head injuries and bad decisions. I wouldn't lay claim to any of my memories from back then. And I think it's like Puerto Rico with some of them, not all of them, but some of them. Yeah. But my thought on this whole like service guarantees, he's citizenship. Here's my idea. I believe that it would be a, probably a pretty cool idea if out of high school everyone was required to say do

two years of service. It doesn't have to be military. Hear me out because I will be the first to admit a not everybody should serve the military not everybody physically can not everybody emotionally can. You take my wife and daughter and hand them a rifle and tell them to go shoot somebody in the face they're not going to tolerate that very well. They are much gentler, happier, more sociable people than I am. Thank God for that. Thank Christ for that. And that's fine. Not everybody should be in the military. Not everybody should be forced to go into the military. I don't like that idea. But here's the thing. You could go volunteer at a soup kitchen, you could go volunteer here at a homeless shelter, you could volunteer for Habitat for Humanity, you could volunteer for all sorts of different things.

You could go join your local organization that picks up trash on the side of the highway. All I think is that it would be a really nice idea if young people, say 17 to 19, 18 to 20, were taught the value of service to their fellow man or their country. And that doesn't have to be military, although I think a lot of people would benefit from a little bit of military service at about that time. And it would frankly probably teach them a lot of skills that they would find useful as they either entered the workforce, entered trade school or entered college. Because I can tell you that when I was 18 years old, I was a moron.

But funny enough, after getting shipped halfway around the world and almost getting blown up a couple of times, I came home with a very different mentality and a burning hunger to get in and out of college as fast as humanly possible. It turns out almost dying a few times lights a fire under a guy's ass. It definitely forcibly realigns your priorities. Like let's say that.

You know, I can see where you're coming from, the problems you're going to run into is if these people are doing it, they're going to need to be compensated for their time. Otherwise, you're just going to be hitting poor families harder. Fair. Yeah, you know, so it's got legs. I think the idea has legs. I think that it would need to be thought through by people far more intelligent than myself. But I can see the benefits of it. I mean, at the very least, putting young people together with other young people that they don't know in a place that they're not from or familiar with. I can see that having a positive impact. I mean, that was that for me was scouting when I was in it. I was put with other people my age, sometimes doing community service, sometimes just dicking around in the woods and lighting things on fire we shouldn't have. That's also community service. Right. Yeah. To a point, to a point.

There were some fires that almost got out of hand, almost. But you learned to put them out. See, community service, I'm sticking to it. We did learn to put the fires out when they got out of control. Yes. Would have been great had we done a little bit better preparation of our environment before the fires but you

know lessons were learned no one died I do I do think that that would be great for people I don't know that I like the idea of forcing it on anyone but if you want to vote you got to put some skin in the game and there and there lies and there lies the thing there there was you need to have your ass on the line a little bit yeah well I mean there was a time in this country where like you had to own property to be able to vote and I can understand the arguments against that I can understand the arguments against that too but I also keep going back to this idea

that like you have to have skin in the game. You have to have skin in the game because you know, I really like that. I heard recently, finish up then I'll, then I'll go. Well, but here's, here's my thing. You know, the people who are the quickest to vote for new entitlement programs that bird, the taxpayers, the people that don't pay a lot of money in taxes, you know, the fast, you know, the first people are to vote to send young men and women to war, the assholes who know the assholes who don't have to go to war themselves, don't have any family members have to go to war, and aren't going to be directly affected by the decision to go to war.

And by the way, when I say vote for, I also mean the people that support those people actually doing the voting. You know who the people who you know who are the last people on earth that advocate for going to war? People like me who've been there and realize that when you send a couple hundred thousand people into into a hot zone, some of are not going to come home. And that's a family shattered on the back of this So while I'll be the first to admit that there are circumstances under which I am like absolutely give me the button and I'll push it Myself with a smile on my face I'm also going to do so understanding the weight of the decision I'm making which I would venture say that at least half this country and Probably 80% of those a-holes in Congress have no

earthly idea of the way to the decision they're making because why on earth would they? Yeah they have no reason to truly understand what they're doing. But I don't know I can't remember where I heard it. It was on another podcast it might have been one of Tim Fool's podcast cause I listened to him on occasion and they were talking about selective service and how they should open it up to men, to women. And you should be required if you want to vote to sign up for selective service.

There's an argument to be made there. Now, I kind of like that. And you know what, maybe we do institute a draft, but it doesn't all have to be for the military. There's always a shortage of daycare workers. They do. Before and after school programs are always hard up for teachers.

Guess what? Drafts coming around, everybody that signed up for it. Guess what? If your name comes out of the hat you're you're gonna go through a thorough training and background procedure and you're watching kids for the next two years that is your service to the country California needs firefighters like Ragel said guess what if you are physically capable of doing the firefighter's job we're gonna train you and evaluate if you can be a

firefighter hell worst case you can work the kitchen for the firefighters. Rosie the Riveter. Yeah, exactly. I mean, yes, then then we don't have to pay every eighteen to twenty-year-old on the government dole to do something which is let's be honest, there's gonna be a lot of make work in that. Or we could use it to just be as a, just be a, yeah, you know what? I'm gonna throw my ante in the head. Who knows? Maybe I get pulled for combat arms in the middle of a war. Maybe I get pulled for diaper duty. You don't know. But you're saying that I am willing to take responsibility

for whatever the country needs. Yeah. And that whole that whole that whole issue about like women being women having to sign up for selective service There's not a version of reality where I want my daughter to have to sign up for selective service but But there's also this part of me that's really hard up like But there's also this part of me that's really hard up like how many like I've grown up my entire life listening to the you know. I don't, but I think that if we were going to put any barrier to entry before voting, it should be something like that. Yeah. Sorry. Got to put your name in the hat. If you want a voice and how the country is run, you got to put your name in the hat to risk defending it.

And to Joe's point, I have a feral daughter. You do. She's gonna be scary. Oh, look, I've already I've already told I've already told my wife one day some poor little some poor little teenage bastards gonna show up at the front door and he's hopefully Hopefully he makes it past me and you very respectfully says mr. Rabelais I'm here to take out your daughter because I swear to Christ who shows up with a hat backwards and says sup, bro He ain't get he ain't gonna make it to the point of asking my daughter out

I'm just gonna slap the crap out and tell him get off my property But if he makes it past me, I'm just going to put my hand on my shoulder and say, good luck. Because that little girl has been raised for 12 years so far to not tolerate anybody's crap, and she barely tolerates mine. So I'm just saying. All right. So we're going to get this cart back on the rails? Yeah, why not?

I mean, it's a similar thing, you know, talking about the emergency on the border and deporting people. You know, brought up the cartels needing to be deported. Apparently, the cartels have been getting into gunfights with border patrol this week, which is a bold move, Cotton, as I believe Trump was sending a few hundred or so Marines down to the border to assist border patrol. Dude, listen, so you remember not five minutes ago,

we were talking about how like me and sending the military and harm's way and yada, yada, yada, yada. I'm gonna tell you right here now, you could Jay damn the freaking cartels headquarters or like you could do it from 30,000 feet. The sons of bitches would never get a shot off. They wouldn't even hear the bomb falling before their house blew up. True.

And if you want to convince me that with our intelligence apparatus, we couldn't fare where every one of these guys is living, their brothers, their sisters, their cousins, their parents, who they're screwing, their bankers, everybody, and just literally strip mine all of Mexico from one end to the other, every every cartel headquarters all gone all at the same time. Bye. Well, we probably could, but it would start a war with Mexico because that's like their number one economy well guess piece of their economy guess what do that and then put a c130 flying put a couple c130 her ac 130s just flying back and forth

up and down the border i dare anything to come over right i am i am so a mile past tired of dealing with this nonsense because this is not a recent phenomena. No, it's not. It's been going on for 100 years. The cartels have been jumping the border, shooting Americans on American soil, by the way, not just border patrol agents, but farmers and ranchers that are close to the border. This has been going on for years, for decades. And I am sick to death of this idea that these fricking assholes get to come over the border with impunity screw with our citizens in our own country on our soil. And we're expected to kowtow to the government that is in bed with the cartels and treat them like they're a legitimate

government because they're freaking not. Well, at this point, the cartels do control the Mexican government. I mean, that's that's pretty clear whether or not they do it overtly. So and this is a bit of conjecture. if the cartel controls the government, that means the cartel is the government of Mexico, which means Mexico is committing hostile foreign invasions of our southern border via the cartels. They're certainly not doing anything to stem it. Right, right. I mean, maybe they are kind of the federal is bry. Some of them try.

Some of them are horribly bribed. Or I'm assuming you've heard of Ed Calderon, right? Yes, I have. Anybody that hasn't anybody that hasn't, you should fricking YouTube. Anything that guy has ever talked it talked on dude knows his stuff well, he was a federale and he part of the reason he left Mexico was because of the corruption in the federale so like I Have a base principle that I apply in many facets of my life that goes something like I will not have rational conversations with

Irrational people sure the split second you stop making sense or you stop behaving rationally, I am done trying to have a rational conversation with you. I'm either going to ignore you, shout you into a corner or break contact because I'm not I'm no longer treating you like a rational person and going gonna have a rational conversation with you, or a respectful conversation. I'm gonna deal with you in the way I have to, but I'm done playing nice. I am done having a rational conversation with a government that is in bed with the, either in bed with the cartels, or so scared to death of them,

they're refusing to do what's right. So my position at this point is, blow up all the cartel stuff, blow up all their houses, smash all their stuff on a rock. And if the government of Mexico says we're coming at you, then the next JDAM goes through the presidential palace. Well, I don't have one with here's the thing is, I don't think I'm not don't think Michael happen either. I am not certain any

there would be any repercussions other than maybe some fallout in, what the hell is the name of that damn thing? Tijuana? Nope. United Nations. There's probably gonna be a lot of finger pointing and wagging into United Nations.

No, it's just. You wanna take a wild guess how little I thinkging into United Nations. No, it's just- You want to take a wild guess how little I think of the United Nations. Oh, I know. Since we've gone down this road. Yeah, I know. I don't either, but here's the problem I have with just JDAMing everyone in the cartel.

There are a lot of people that are down there that are working in cartel facilities that they are not there of their own accord. Now- What did we just get through saying about deporting millions of people that sometimes go to the crossbar? They do, but I have a very hard time

justifying JDAMing people that have not done anything to us. Now- Okay, tier one assets. What's that? Tier one assets. Oh sure you could. Or, what we could do is secure our borders. I mean, let's be realistic here. We are able to deploy a Burger King within 24 hours anywhere on the globe inside of a military base.

Seriously, it's a container. They drive the semi right off the C-130 supercargo. I mean, look, if we can do that on any continent within 24 hours, we can damn sure secure that border. I don't care how militarized it has to get. I really don't at this point. Militarize the whole goddamn thing. Put up a DMZ. Anybody that comes across there, that tries to cross there without our permission, that's a hostile act.

Okay. So the only, the only otherwise I'm going to issue to that before we move on is what if, what if breaking the back of the cartels as invasive as it would be with all the screaming and yelling of the UN with all the screaming and yelling of the world community of which I give not a single tiny little piss about damn all y'all ain't nobody ain't none of them have deployed the first assets try to help us out secure our our southern border so as far as I'm concerned if you ain't't, if it's the three Fs, right? If you're not feeding, financing me or fornicating with me, I don't care what your opinion is.

Well, that's how I am to the UN at this point. You're not feeding us, you're not financing us and we're done effing with you. So we're gonna deal with this problem our way and if you don't like it, then you should have been part of the solution, not part of the problem. You should have been leaning on Mexico, by the way,

about the freaking human train that they had dumping illegal immigrants onto our southern border, but since nobody wants to get involved in that fight, now we got to deal with it ourselves. So I guess my point of view is very simple. If we break the, if we could break the back of the cartel and loosen their grip on the country of Mexico and the Mexican government. And there's a possible idealistic, there's a possibility that they actually let country managers to rest control of itself back from the cartels. And we can make an argument that we're giving that country the opportunity to improve the lives of their own citizens by rooting out this cancer that's being allowed to metastasize and grow. Is that not a better solution than just pure isolationists lock the border down and F y'all y'all around problems? How did

Afghanistan and Iraq turn out? Afghanistan, Iraq, we're not bordering our country. No, but we still went in and tried to remove a very terrible element in that country and nation build and it went poorly. Yes, but there's a couple of problems with that. First of all, you have to separate Iraq and Afghanistan as much as it seems like they're very similar. They're kind of not. So no, I totally understand why they are different.

But what I'm saying is, is the US military in the US government is notoriously terrible at nation-building and Using war to nation-build. Yes. Yeah, we succeeded with Germany and Japan kind of Except I might advocate nation-building. I'm literally talking about just wiping some dirt off the off our shoes and then telling the country of Mexico Get your crap together and don't come after don't come at us anymore. Or bad things will happen and let them nation build. I mean, you know, I, I firmly believe in this might be super idealistic, might be very short sighted of me, but I truly believe that like one of the reasons why our country has the

national personality that it does is because we've built so much of this ourselves. And I think that any attempt to nation-build or like, you know, there's this very clear idea as we entered Iraq that if we could just give the Iraqis like Levi's and, you know, American music, they'd be just like us. And I'm like, yeah, but you can't supplant the native culture they have because these are people that have been ruled by warlords and chieftains and dictators for multiple generations. The culture and the religion don't allow for democracy. Exactly. So I don't know that the culture of Mexico is any different the way it looks. Call it the Taliban, call it a cartel.

They're really not that much different. The only it's tribal warlords with a different name. The only difference would be and I can't speak to this because I don't know. But the problem with Taliban specifically was that a substantial portion of the country and this was also in plan Iraq saw the Taliban and the insurgency as like the home team Like we were the invaders and the longer so it's been stated and I believe this just from having been in the country But like if we had come into Iraq we had to post it on we had left Then the Iraqis the the sentiment among the average Iraqi would not have viewed us as foreign invaders, but it's the fact that we stayed

that caused a lot of the public sentiment to sway against us and they began to see the insurgency as we're here fighting for you against the infidels and The problem with the with Afghanistan was largely that the Taliban was not viewed as terrorists. They were viewed as Like Catholics in this country. They were viewed as like Catholics in this country. They're viewed as a religious group. So like when we went after them, we were going into another country and basically like shooting their version

of shooting at priests for God's sakes. Like the optics around what we did now in Iraq and Afghanistan were never going to work. So I don't really see a difference in doing that same thing in Mexico. I'm saying is that the only way it would be different would be if the average the average Mexican view the cartel as a net pad. Do they view them as an eye? I can't speak to that. I'm I don't know that that is the limit of my not I mean they

Although you would think putting people in oil drums and bury them out in the desert You know would kind of like be a net bad, but I don't know I don't know either and but this is the problem. I This is the problem with force projecting into other countries if you're not intending conquest is The optics are never going to be good. So then what do we do that was so different with Japan that we occupied for years? We didn't we didn't oppose their leadership. We allowed the emperor to stay on the throne. And that's probably one of the reasons why it worked out well. Okay, so then we don't JDM the Mexican president.

We just tell them, please don't let drug dealers take over your country again. I mean, I don't know, man. I just, I don't, I, I, I wish I could have that Rose, that Rosie view of if we got rid of the bad, then good would be allowed to flourish there. My concern is that if we get rid of organized bad, you're just going to have disorganized bad leading to the exact same thing later. Maybe it delays it five or 10 years, but I just don't think you can solve the problems in Mexico by killing people. If you could, the

cartels would have solved it already. They kill an awful lot of people. Yeah, but the cartels kill people to maintain their power by scared. We'll be doing the same. We but it works for the cartel. I okay, I was about we but it works for the cartel I okay I was about to say but works with the cartel it can work for us too like if you're gonna if you're here if you're terrified of the white devil up north and you you stay on your side of the border that sounds that sounds like it solves my

problem I mean it but that you maybe go to a dark place all of a sudden I just I, I don't. I don't have perfect knowledge. If I had perfect knowledge, and I knew it was going to end up what and well, then of course you would do it. But a lot of times when you get rid of a power structure in the country, even an unofficial power structure in the country, things get a lot worse. Like, it's pretty rare for you you get rid of a power structure in the country, even an unofficial power structure in the country, things get a lot worse. Like it's pretty rare for you to get rid of a power structure in a country and have things turn out better. The CIA does it all the time. And it doesn't actually

get better. It doesn't actually get better at all. They make everything worse. I know it's sarcasm, Nick. Yeah. Like, no, man, Nick. Yeah, it's just like... No, man, I just, I can't get behind that idea. The look on your face was so priceless though. Trusting the CIA, yes, even sarcastically trusting the CIA cannot compute with me. I saw this brief moment where you were like, is he being for real?

I couldn't process it. I'm very low on sleep and not enough caffeine for this level of sarcasm. But the, I don't know, man, it's, it's an ends. You're kind of making an ends justifies the means argument. And I don't like those because if you're taking immoral actions they don't tend to lead to moral results and I think I'm defending yourself defending yourself is moral securing your property and your your people moral. Fine Nick, we won't JDAM the cartels. I mean, I don't know man.

Yes, Lockheed Martin would love for us to JDAM all the cartels. They do need their stocks to go up more. I mean, yeah, if Trump's gonna friggin' like stop, stops in the CIA to do regime changes, you know what? There's an idea we have a whole arm of our of our our intelligence apparatus that excels in regime changes. Nevermind. No JDAMs. I mean, yeah, you could send the CIA to deal with it. But then

we're just going to get more drugs in the inner cities again, again, more drugs again, again, again, how much more drugs can be imported into the inner cities? How much more drugs can we import into the inner cities? I mean, given the fact that they were like flying in literal tons of cocaine. I mean, give the CIA an inch and they'll fuel in a mile long line of cocaine. I mean, no. I like the idea of putting the CIA in Mexico even less than I like JDAMing the cartels. Okay so just because you've brought it up since we've

started talking about the CIA you're not like planning self-harm or anything anytime soon are you? Okay. I actually quite like living. I do not have any dirt on the Clintons and I know nothing about Anthony Fauci. We just you know sometimes you just have to, you have to make those statements publicly in front of witnesses. Yeah, Joe's right. Winning and moral don't always go together,

but I would like to try, I would like our country to attempt to do the moral thing. I mean- Because I think we are capable of doing it. And then if you do win, it's a better victory. I will. I will give you that. I'm just I'm just going to ask that you allow for the possibility that, you know, when we deployed two portable sons on Japan

and murdered millions of civilians, that was probably the lesser of two evils. Sure, and you can argue lesser of two evils all day long, but it's still evil. Well, I don't think I'm the person to answer that question. I'm certainly not. And because of that, because I don't think that I am smart enough to answer that question correctly, or even approaching correctly, that makes it a no for me.

Yeah. And see, for me, it's not even a I don't think I'm smart enough to my problem is that when whenever we get into really hard conversations about morality and war and everything else, I go right back to this really dark little place where I'm like, I'm not saying murdering civilians is cool. I'm just saying that at the end of the day, if I have to pick between my countrymen and anybody else's countrymen, they're on the wrong end. Sure. And that sounds really heartless and it kind of is.

No, it is. And we do need people to make that decision. But it's also the perspective of a person who swore an oath to defend my country and my countrymen and uphold the Constitution. And I, at the end of the day, I just don't care enough about. The collateral damage that would be caused, which is probably why I'm not the one that should be pointing the military at anybody, because that is ultimately going to always be my personality is like, did did they screw with my country? Did they point? You know, did they shoot at us? Did they bomb us? Did they do stupid stuff?

I want them sent to Jesus next day or please. And I can understand where you're coming from. I just think that we have not actually tried the moral solution first. We haven't tried any solution. Exactly. So I think that we could probably try the less evil solution first

and see if that has an effect. And then, cause we can always fall back to JDAMing everyone. I mean, we're really good at that. Oh, God, are we good at it? We'll keep that on the shelf. Let's try securing our border first. And if that doesn't work, J-Damage for all, I guess.

You might as well try. Okay. Last one. Restart of the WHO pullout. Like a 13 year old on prom night. Too late. Oh, too late. Oh, Jesus. Oh Jesus.

You're welcome. Anyway, no, like, I don't know someone. No one has yet to explain to me the downside of this. And let's go ahead and add NATO and the UN into all this. Like I know one, no one has yet to explain to me the downside of pulling ourselves out of these organizations of which we are overwhelmingly providing a majority of the funding for on the back of us taxpayers and which from my point of view, we don't really seem to reap much, if any benefits from it.

Prop up the petri US petrodollar hedge money. That's the only upside. It helps prop up the US petrodollar hedge money. That's the only upside. Which is well on its way to collapsing anyway. Oh yeah, but that doesn't mean we should escalate it. I mean, I kind of like us being a world reserve currency and me being able to buy a smartphone for $1,000 instead of 2,700. The problem with that is.

There's so many problems with that. I know there are, I know, but that's, that's really what it is. Uh, the, the big reason why we big reason why people are freaking out about us pulling out of the WHO and theoretically pulling out of NATO, I don't think we would. It wouldn't really be pulling out of NATO, it would be collapsing NATO, which probably should be collapsed. I mean, there's some arguments to be said that NATO has outlived its usefulness and that it

Probably is at least a proximal cause of the Russia Ukraine conflict. Yeah, I mean certainly and I do not want to get into a half-hour long geopolitical rant about like the causes for World War one or the parallels to NATO versus the the Soviet the old Soviet block of the Cold War and all that. But suffice to say, at least from my perspective, my understanding, NATO was created to basically try to make it so that another, a third World War could not happen. Just like the United Nations, just like, what was it before that, the League of Nations. Yeah.

We're batting a thousand so far guys and then along came portable deployable sons and that seems to have Changed the game slightly because now these no one can Yeah, but the point is is that like anybody that has one nobody wants to start a war with because anybody that has one nobody wants to start a war with because if one gets popped off another gets popped off and then everybody pops them off and then bad things start happening so I have a theory about that I don't think mutually assured destruction is a reality honestly I question how many of

those birds are sitting in those silos that would even fire if we tried to fire them off. Oh, the US ones would. Ours? Anybody else's? Some would. I don't think that mutually assured destruction would actually work. I don't think that the country on the receiving end of a nuke would fire all of theirs.

I mean, at the end of the day, you're talking about people that have to push the button to end the world and that's that's a moral weight. I wouldn't do it. And I've had this discussion with I would say a large number of my friends. Yeah, you have a few too many beers you're sitting by the campfire and somebody brings up World War three and well Would anybody here actually do it? Have yet to have somebody admit that yes, they would retaliate fully with a full nuclear arsenal of another country Yeah, well and

You know you you've probably heard me bring up a book called And you know, you've probably heard me bring up a book called Unrestricted Warfare a couple of times. Yeah. For anybody that hasn't stumbled upon that little jewel, like Google that. You don't really need a VPN, but you should probably be using the one anyway. But Google that, find the PDF copy of it, read it. Let's just say that a couple of PLA cartels, you know, 30 years ago now, pretty well figured out that thermonuclear war was bad. So if they were going to screw with another country, they should probably do it in more indirect clandestine ways.

And as you read that book, if it starts to sound like current events, then yeah, welcome. Welcome to my little vert, my my new version of idiocracy. See, when I was younger, I would make people watch idiocracy. And if it's scared the crap out of them, I was like, you're my people. You get it, you see it, you see it now. And if they thought it was a dumb movie, I was like, Okay, I'm not gonna take that one out of my Rolodex because you are You're one of the idiocracy people. So now a problem. Yeah, and nowadays my litmus test is

unrestricted warfare because usually I recommend that book and for the people that actually read it I usually get one or two responses I either get that would never work and add the Rolodex again, or I get the frothing terror at, oh my God, this sounds way too familiar when you realize this book was written in 1994. And I'm like, welcome, you've had your eyes open. Now you can't unsee it either. Yeah, you know, there's always been two big problems to me with thermonuclear war. One, the ground if you win is now useless to you

for at least a while. So literally salt in the earth. And two, you are now everyone's enemy because you started thermonuclear war. So you've alienated all of your allies, you have united the planet against you, and you've made any potential gains moot. And you've killed off all the tax cattle you could have grabbed. I mean, let's be honest here, the biggest asset of any country is its population. Mm hmm. And their productive enterprise. Yeah, I was gonna

say and its industrial capabilities for output, right? Which by that measure, we don't have a lot. But I guess that's another story. We have more than people think. Yeah, we have more than people think. I mean, all right, I'm part of it. True weaponized autism, right? You would not believe how accurate that is for, for machinists in general. I've known a few there's parallels. There's, there's some neuro spice there.

So is there anything else you want to chuck in here before we roll this one out? I mean, I feel like in another week we're going to have to find something else to talk about earth and current events because we could literally talk about this every week for the next at least six months and never run out of material. Wasn't there a possibility of getting Trek on to talk about his experience of the California wildfires? Yeah. So I do need to reach out to him and check and see if we can get him in for next Thursday. A fiery and mostly peaceful podcast.

Fiery and mostly peaceful would be a fun title. Nothing to do with riots, everything to do with actual fire. Not this time at least. Yeah. Well, so far. All right. Well, let's go ahead and punt this one out the door. We both have dinner and spouses to check on and sorry, last minute comment came in.

RaggelFraggle earlier asked if I'd like him to put a bug in a podcasters ear about Cypress survivalists that we to help us promote the event. And yeah, I wholeheartedly would love that. Like whether it's just me, me and the wife. I mean, we're we're doing this. We would like it to be a successful first event. I don't have any illusions about the fact that it's probably going to a kind of a small turnout because it's first time we're ever doing this But I'd really like to see this little venture. My wife and I have started grow into something really cool because

we're only ever gonna we're only ever going to reach so many people doing this on the internet and I really feel like the principles of like preparedness are just going to get more and more important as time goes on. Oh, they'll never not be important. Yeah. Natural disasters happen all the time. Yep. And unnatural disasters and supernatural disasters. That's a supernatural disaster.

I'll let you know when we get there. Good. Good. All right. Matter of fact podcast going out the door. Can I, everybody take care of each other, take care of yourself, stay out of trouble and don't end up on the news. Bye y'all later. So Thanks for watching!