The Prepper Broadcasting Network - Matter of Facts: Market Disruptions and Spicy Mufflers

Episode Date: June 9, 2025

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Welcome back to the Matterfags Podcast on the Prepper Broadcasting Network. We talk prepping guns politics every week on iTunes, Stitcher, and Spotify. Go check out our content at MWFpodcast.com on Facebook or Instagram. You can support us via Patreon or by checking out our affiliate partners. I'm your host Phil Raveley. Andrew and Nick are on the other side of the mic and here's your show. Welcome back to the Matter of Effects podcast, where we are honest about the fact that this is a purely amateur production,

no professionalism whatsoever, usually about a millimeter away from turning into a shit show or a complete ranting rave, and very, very often fueled by coffee, whiskey, bad decisions and anger. Yes. Did I cover all the bases Nick? I do believe you did, except for the electrons.

We are somewhat helped by the electrons. Okay, the electrons do help facilitate the insanity across the country because Nick and I are not co-located. But Nick, the Disappointer of Phil, is on the other side of the mic. Andrew's not. Andrew is taking acting classes for Gic portraying a lawyer so he's gonna be practicing by giving us legal advice in Minecraft that you absolutely should not adhere to. Well you should adhere to it but it's not official legal advice because he's not a lawyer.

He's only portraying one. Yep. And I'm not a lawyer and I'm pretty sure Nick's not a lawyer. Oh God. No, no, I would not do well in the courtroom. So for the purpose of this show, if I tell you, you should do something, ABC, XYZ, federal firearms, licenses and forms and all that. That's not legal advice, but it's probably a really good idea So if you have any questions about whether or not you're about to do ten years in Club Fed

You should probably consult a lawyer not Andrew and not me and not Nick God no God no Anyway So let's cruise through the banners real quick And then let's get to the little bitty topping and then we'll get to the big one that I'll just give you all the warning now if you're watching this on YouTube and subs the Stream suddenly goes dark it might you should you should probably cruise over to rumble and pick us up there because I don't think They'll kill it there. Oh, but I've developed I've developed trust issues with YouTube recently For good reasons. Yes. Yes

Dumbass text erratic. I'm telling the feds a fed said it was okay to do it Yeah, cuz that'll get you out of prison. Yeah, I didn't work for the Manson family It hasn't worked for anybody that is use that excuse Have you heard about what the wheat what the feds did to the weavers? And that's fair and that was after they were entrapped. Anyway, that's a different topic different show So patrons like some of the patrons that are in the chat right now misbehaving Well, I would say misbehaving badly, but it might be doing a good job of misbehaving I don't know. Not sure haven't had enough coffee been kind of a crazy day around here

But they're definitely in the chat misbehaving right now, but our patrons are the ones who support the show keep it on keep Keep it on the rails. Keep the wheels on the bus. Whatever analogy you keep the bills paid They keep the bills paid they do that and as long as to keep the bills paid Then we can keep doing this without me having to write a check out of my checking account which keep the wife happy and keep me in business Mm-hmm merge if you like to support the show ho and support a small business those links in the show description Cyprus survivalist is still a thing and that link is also in the show description And our lunch and learn is coming up June 14th. So today is the fifth. So it's like a week from Two days from now or something like that

But uh, we have a couple of we have a couple people that are registered to attend It's going to be really informal. It's going to be literally like come hang out have a burger bs and i'll give a class on um Kind of like my method of developing developing a food stock and how to integrate your preparedness Pantry into your regular pantry because they really should kind of like backfeed each other You know, I think it's kind of smooth-brained activity for a person to say like I have Prepper food and then I have real food that I eat every day and the two aren't somehow connected to each other Yeah, that's definitely a problem. I mean, look, we all have some,

what I'm gonna call prepper food. We do. Like I'm not eating mountain house every day. I do keep some mountain house around. But by the same token. We all keep those, what are those? Those SOS ration bars. Oh, the mainstay rations?

Yeah, the mainstay ration bars. A lot of us keep one of those in the truck We don't eat that every day But the vast majority of your food backstop should be things you would be willing to eat on any daily basis So it doesn't just go bad in your pantry Uh-huh. And you know my point of view like we've talked about my food pantry like I've got some stuff that is not Normal consumption like the rent the mountain house gets eaten on camping trips. Nobody in the house will eat the MREs, which I don't blame. And we're saving those for the in-laws.

But, you know, the overall majority of our food, it's stuff that we would normally eat under normal circumstances. And we're just we have a lot more of it put away than the average person. So we're constantly rotating through. And it's all about, I want my pantry to last instead of like a couple of weeks like some people's will. I want it to last several months. Absolutely. But anyway, okay. Admin work done. Mini tiny topic. I was talking to our resident commo nerds from the comm syndicate and partisan comms group has now officially designated me a comms

nerd. Apparently I get a decoder ring and I get to learn the secret handshake. There might be an initiation ceremony. I don't know if it's gonna involve like hoods and paddling or anything like you know, I believe it comes with compulsory debt. Well, I already have all that so good, you know So I've talked a couple of times about like, you know Software-defined radio and all that nerdy BS that most people don't really care about I don't blame y'all

But I sue I bet the YouTube stream went down Does it I don't know all of a sudden we've got a couple people on Facebook and nobody on YouTube So somebody is out there in listener land Let me know if our YouTube stream got cut down and we haven't even started talking about anything fun yet Oh, yeah, YouTube feed got cut again. That's fine Send it over to rumble boys. That is annoying It's okay, they just hate us cuz we're yeah, that's fine But anyway, so I I did end up buying a a hobby grade

Satellite dish. It's really nothing like outstanding. It's Honestly, it looks like it was made in a shed But it has proven sufficient so far with a little bit of software and with a low noise amplifier and a couple of little tricks to actually interface with the goes east satellite Sorry, I'm getting texts from my wife while she's out, but anyway So the last time I was playing around with satellites. I was downloading So the last time I was playing around with satellites I was downloading Satellite images from some of the low worth low earth orbit satellites Noah 19 at the time

And I meant I made the comment that that was kind of a low resolution picture was using a very very antiquated like a 1970s era Yes, I see y'all in the chat. YouTube went down. I'm not shocked. I don't know what to tell y'all about YouTube. I mean, it seems like... I mean, I'll follow grievance, but I doubt they're going to do anything about it. We didn't even talk about waterboarding yet. Well, I mean, we have things in the show description about the Hearing Protection Act. So, ah, yes. Oh, scary congressional hearing.

But the but the funny part of it is, is that there's tons and tons of content on YouTube about silencers. So I don't know. We're a small enough channel. They can get away with it. That's pretty much that's all it is Anyway back to the mini topic. So what I did this time was I got a little satellite dish I got a look I got a little bit of a different piece of software. I was able to into Upload I was able to download from goes East which is formerly goes 19, which is a geostationary satellite that's, I think, if memory serves me, like three times further away from the Earth

than the low Earth or from NOAA-19 was. Nice. And that uses, it's a much more modern satellite. It uses a much, much more modern package of instruments. And it also spits out an absolute metric ton more data Because it is using l-band which is like 1.694 megahertz 1.6 x 94 gigahertz And what I was able to do this is just an image of hopefully wash your laptop screen dear god

well Buddy, okay is set don't wash your laptop screen dear god well buddy okay can we focus no can we focus i can not with the screen that dirty wow cry baby anyway so this was the end result i actually managed to snatch Almost a gigabyte of data over the course of two hours Got a lot of different What I forget the technical term for this but these total earth shots from the vantage point of that satellite in the visible spectrum and different other spectrums I don't think I actually put that image in in the slideshow I sent you one where I zoomed way in on this on the oh, yeah, it was in a coastline. Yeah

Yeah, so when you zoom in like six hundred forty percent on these you can actually make out like Individual states and geographical features and it doesn't start getting blurry until you go a little further than that So I was very impressed But you also get things like this, which these are not satellite images, obviously, but this is different meteorological and radar data overlaid on maps. And this is all coming straight out of that satellite.

That's fantastic. Yeah. Now, really, if your comms is almost entirely down, you can get a full weather report download straight from just that satellite. Well and also, so I've got, again, I didn't want to talk about this too too much because I'm still working at it. I've got a piece of software that kind of helps to parse through all this mountain of data to make it easier to digest and that will probably be demonstrated on a future

show. What I did do was I managed to, through a lot of hunting, one of the things that comes out of this HRIT data stream is you get a mountain of text files. And those text files, I've come to find out, are the local weather conditions from every radar site NOAA is affiliated with in the United States. Damn. So I have I was able to find it through just basically searching through the you know this directory full of text files. I was able to search for where

I know my nearest radar site is which is actually Slidell is the next town or from where I lived where I grew up and I know exactly where I know exactly where that site is, which is actually Slidell, the next town over from where I lived, where I grew up. And I know exactly where I know exactly where that site is. It's right by the local airport. But I was able to find the local weather conditions for that Slidell site in real time as they were being downloaded. So that's, that's excellent. Yeah. So to me, the cool part of this is that, you know, I made the comment with the last time I did this, that the the lower orbit satellites, the APT data that I was getting out of those, it was kind of like a little slice. You get a you get a visible shot, a little bit of IR, a couple of a couple of different things, you're getting some still images out of it. That's about it. You're not getting this sheer just tsunami of data coming out of it, which is almost like drinking from a fire hose

without this additional program to kind of be able to parse through and organize it. But, um, I mean, I figured this out so it's not that daggin difficult, but this this was in terms of technique in Terms of like the software setup because I mean the configuration files have to be modified in a tech in a text editor To get this thing to fire up. There's just there's there's more involved in Doing this than what I did before.

And the equipment involves this dish that's sitting behind me, that is... Let's see. Somewhat in view. Yeah, somewhat in view. So anyway, this dish is like three feet wide, two feet tall. It's got a dong hanging off the front of it

that's a foot and a half long. I mean, it is not a portable thing. It is not like the APT data I was able to get where that just took like an SDR and a pair of rabbit ear antennas. Like something you could pack up in a little bag and you could genuinely pull that data down over a 10 or 15 minute satellite pass in the middle of nowhere that to me

You can make the argument is off-grid comms this this thing and all the stuff I've been doing today It's more information. It's not It's not portable This is the kind of thing you're gonna set up at your home or you're gonna set up at like you know a cabin or something and You're gonna run it from that vantage and you are not going to be Spelunking around and be like I want to see what the weather is doing because it's just We're outside the realm portability at this point Yeah, even if you did have a way to break the dish down like an into two halves and pack it

It's still gonna take up a massive amount of space Yeah, I mean it's but part take up a massive amount of space. Yeah, I mean, it's, but part of the reason I did this was to, you know, to, part of the reason I did this was to see how far down the SDR rabbit hole it made sense for the average person. And what I've determined from doing

all these different activities is that, you know, your basic SDR program, snooping on local radio frequency traffic, that's easy, that's cheap and easy. Looking for local ADS-B transponder signals for aircraft, that's cheap and easy, that's a very lightweight lift. Trunked SDR systems is a little bit more complicated. You need a second SDR systems is a little bit more complicated.

You need a second SDR, you need another antenna. The software is a little less intuitive, is a little more involved, but still pretty light lift doable. The Low Earth Orbit NOAA satellites, APT transmissions, a little bit more complicated, but still not like there's more pieces and there's more involved, but it's not difficult This is the point at which things start to get tricky Like it's doable and there's info there's there's how to's on, you know, YouTube University There's a lot of guys that are smarter than I am that made this look really easy. I didn't invent any of this I followed in their footsteps and did a ton of reading and Digging through different software packages

to find the ones that made the most sense to me. But this is the step at which this is more input than your average person is gonna wanna put forth to get some satellite weather images. Where I stopped last time, most people ought to be able to figure that out. The hardest part of that isn't even like the hardware or the software.

It's just timing because you have like, in a 24 hour period, you've got two, maybe three 10 minute windows where you can grab a satellite signal and you basically just set up your equipment, turn the recorder on and wait for the way for the satellite to run over the top of you. This the satellites in the same place every time it's not going anywhere. But you have to

align the dish, the dish itself had like you and I were talking about before the dish itself has to be constructed correctly, everything has to be aligned in alignment on the dish itself. Everything has to be tuned correctly There's just there's so many little opportunities for something to not work Right and even I was shocked when I got data out of this because when I first started playing with this dish I just wasn't seeing a really I wasn't seeing what I was seeing with the APT signal where it was like a very Obvious in your face. We have data

I was just seeing like a little bit of snow in the background. And I was genuinely concerned like the dishes messed up or I've got a broken coax or something. Something's not right. Well, there's a lot of points of failure there that are possible. Yeah. But oddly enough, I went ahead and just, you know, kind of went for broke because if I to play with this, this last piece of software, I had to have some kind of data, even if it was bad data. Oh, sure. That makes sense. You got to give it something to work

with. So I literally sound like you can listen to the abstract. Yeah. So I literally you can't divide by zero, so to say. So I literally fired up set dump, I plugged everything in the way I thought it needed to be crank the gain to 11 and then hit the button and lo and behold, it locked in on the signal. Nice. And then it started spitting out packets. And I was just I just I literally like sat there looked at for a minute. I'm like, I did not expect this to work. So at that point, I turned on the

box fan in the garage and the air conditioner, because it was degrees outside. And it was degrees outside And it was kind of like in for a penny in for a pound So I smoked a cigar on the workbench and let it let it eat Yeah, you might as well you've got it all locked in and ready to go. You might as well see what data you're getting Yeah, so I like said I There's a part of me that thinks oh, there's got to be a way to get this clean the signal up and make the signal Look a little bit better, but probably

But to be perfectly freakin honest, I mean The results speak for themselves. Yeah The result kind of does speak for itself Like I if I zoom in and I look really hard I can find some artifacts and some spots where data got missed but honestly the ugliest image I have out of this first batch is from the very first image because I think the train I think I when I turn on the recorder, I was halfway through a transmission. So there's Oh, okay, there's some

bands and everything that didn't come through or they're miscolored or they're missing. Yeah, you were missing data. Yeah. But once once I got through a full series and I got back to the start, every one of those images until I shut it down is they look like this. They're nice. I don't wanna say flawless,

but they're amazingly good. For a garage setup made out of, let's be very clear here, not premium components, because premium satellite dishes are phenomenally expensive That's pretty great results Yeah, I mean this this was my setup so you're talking about a $100 a hundred dollar satellite dish from newelec off Amazon a $20 tripod from Walmart cuz that was that was sturdier than the the god-only-knows-how-cheap

Tripod I had lying around $40 for a sawbird For a yeah for new elect sawbird. That is the low noise amplifier and there are $35 for the RTL SDR and then just software that is all pretty much freely available on the internet if you know where to go look for it because Some nerd thought it'd be cool and impressed his nerdy little friends by writing it and publishing it and I am nerdy enough to say Hey, thanks. That's really cool. I'm gonna share that with the internet

very cool, so we're not talking about a Ton of money to get this result. No, not really. It's just it's, it's a lot of effort. It's more effort honestly, than like the average person is willing to put forth. But I kind of make the comparison to when I got really heavy into communications and radio. And I culminated in like building a man-packed radio system that have repeater capabilities in it. It's more than anyone

in the right mind needs. It is more than most people want to put together. It's a lot of work to assemble and to cool. It is really cool but this is one of those things where I think it's like really important for I think it's really important for somebody to take it upon themselves to push the topic to kind of like, to the to the reasonable limit and a little beyond to show people what's out there and what's possible. And then let the audience decide, Phil, I have absolutely no need to do that. I just need to radio so I can talk to my wife from a mile and a half away

Yeah, that's two thumbs up. I totally get it. My wife is never gonna play with half the nerdy nonsense. I've built but You know, it's I had I had to do it to see if it was possible Absolutely at at my tech level on a reasonable budget And it turns out it is yeah, very possible But that will be that will be a topic for future episode because that'd probably be a good one to have some couple of The guys from the comm syndicate talked to you about Because they would probably be able to they would probably tease out some of those little background questions that you wouldn't necessarily

Remember and I have no clue to think of Yeah, I actually shared this with them and I Immediately had one person asked me for a link for the resources like that's cool. I want to try that This is why it's important to have peers that know more than you do in certain subjects because none of us can know everything about everything or even everything about anything. Yes. Cruising through the chat catch up. Yes, my wife is diamond me out. I am a gigantic nerd.

She knew this about me when we got married. This nothing has changed. Nothing's changed. Joe, I have no idea what you were talking about. I'm just waiting for Nick to make TTRP comments or Phil to rant because some government agencies did shady stuff. I mean, this isn't really that episode, Joe, but next week, maybe next week.

And Jeff. but maybe next week maybe next week and You probably just says maybe can Okay So for jeff specifically and for the audience if you're curious about satellite based projects and str projects, there's Only there's several youtube channels out there But the one that i've really gravitated towards is called a saver for parts It's all one word. No spaces The dude is us he I mean in in the in the sweetest nicest No homo, bro, you know way possible. He's a gigantic nerd

Fantastic. He he he like free cycles and up cycles and repurposes junkie buy satellite dishes off the side of the road and then oh My wife is calling me out because I didn't Read the comment. Thank you, babe I'm going to have to Jeff said I'm going to have to look into whether or not I can mod my parents old DTV dish into a directional antenna So like I was saying the YouTube channel save for parts right here on roll I'd say right here on YouTube over not on YouTube at the moment, but on YouTube The dude does a lot of projects where he is repurposing old mostly TV satellite dishes and Wi-Fi dishes

For use in messing around with like the Noah satellites and the Go satellites and Meteor and MetaOp and all those. He does a lot of different content but it kind of all centers around this idea that like he likes to take junk and turn it into nerd stuff. He also has a whole series where he's like resurrecting and messing around with ancient friggin desktops like the old Commodores and the Tandy's and all those. I have even learned about some that I had heard of but I'd never actually seen in person because they were too daggum expensive when I was young. So it's a cool channel but he does a lot of stuff

about this. Quite a few of his videos actually got me You know started down this road once I got into STR I started looking around and that's when I stumbled into his channel And that's when I started learning about the satellite stuff, which has been instructional Anyway 25 minutes one topic down admin stuff done let's talk about the hearing protection act probably the reason why we got nuked off of YouTube because God for God forbid I have a discussion about why the ATF can brag about their people having brand-new suppressors

But you know any mention about civilians having silencers is somehow taboo No, Phil Phil. No, it makes sense. Think about this. It makes it easier, according to the ATF, for people to commit murders and get away with it. The ATF loves committing murders and getting away with it. Yeah. Not making your case. Dogs, children, pregnant women. Hey, the ATF loves to get away with murder. Somebody out there is somebody who has their feelings hurt right now. And all I can say is if you have big feelings about the ATF being accused of murdering innocent women and children and pets, you should open a freaking book. Or just you should.

You should internet for an afternoon and then you can come back to the adult table and have a conversation about why We're right. You were wrong So hearing protection act basically what that comes down to everybody is taking suppressors off the NFA Deregulating suppressors a little bit treating them like firearms, which they really shouldn't be they should be treated as a firearms accessory I should be able to buy them in the same place as I buy P mags and butt stocks I get confused about this though our Silencers a firearm or are they not because it seems like the government changed their mind for one week to the next

Only when it's convenient are they or aren't they? Thank you. Thank you, Nick I knew there was a I knew there was a right works. I knew there was a little criteria I was missing It's it's whether it's convenient for their current argument Which is always aimed at making sure that there's rules for the rules for me the and not for me. Thank you I knew I was missing something. Yeah, I mean, you know look What's the big deal about suppressors I Mean just make your gun a little bit quieter Well make the recoil impulse a little bit different, which can be helpful.

They're really nice in home defense scenarios where you don't want to have to don a full set of ear pro for everybody in the house as you're taking care of business. And they're better for night vision. Correct me if I'm wrong, Phil, because they decrease the muzzle flash quite a bit. I have an ungood authority. They do unless you flick the silly switch to full auto and then your can glows bright green under IR Interesting thought, you know just that would know that would make sense because they get hot that would explain the can covers and all The guys setups would not

Infrared is a thing, but let me ask you a question there Nick. Mm-hmm You've been working as a machinist for thereabouts. How long now? Shit, since I was 13. So so 30 very, very, very long time. Twenty three years. Twenty two. How's your hearing? Oh, man. It's not great.

It's not great, boss. Between between the machine shops and heavy metal concerts, my hobbies and homemade improvised fireworks in Wisconsin. Hearing's not great. Hearing is not great. And according to the DOD, I came back from Iraq with 60% hearing loss in one year and 40 in the other. Not service related. Had nothing to do with the Blackhawks. No, no, no. I don't think it was the Blackhawks necessarily

I think it was the fact that our housing area was at the foot of the runway and the f-16s from the Air Force loved To go right over the top for a hanger a full afterburner every morning. Yeah, so, you know probably necessary But also loud it turns out. Yes. Yes So, you know and and that's before we even talk about my misspent youth around like very loud cars without mufflers on them and, you know, car audio tuning. Yes. Car audio when you're hanging around a bunch of cars, like a punch out like 155 decibels. That's not really a recipe for longevity of your eardrums.

My wife's throwing me under the bus here. What are my common answers? That is correct. I'm getting me under the bus here. What are my common answers? That is correct I'm getting better with the ear pro Okay, but your wife at least acknowledges that it's Damage-related. Oh good. Why it is. Yeah. Well, my wife literally thought I was just ignoring her until one day She literally started having a conversation with me designed to provoke a response and it it't even hear a word she said and then she said oh my god you really can't hear can you and I said what yeah that is accurate I mean look

PBE earpro fantastic please do use it especially if you're younger you will regret not having used it by the time you're 30 Yes gonna notice. I I'm gonna tell you that when you're 20 years old and you think that you know ear pro and I pro are for nerds that That that's fine. But when you're a one-eyed deaf guy and you're for any, you know before you're 35 You can come back to the table the adult table and you can tell me how you were wrong and I was right Yeah, but from the 42 year, and you can tell me how you were wrong and I was right. But from the 42 year old guy who can't hear squat anymore,

just guard what little hearing you have left. Absolutely. Ah, Jeff Yagosinski, what is this hearing you speak of? That's the thing normal people can do when people talk and they can- That ringing when it's quiet. Oh yeah, yeah, that's a fun one. Yeah. So yeah, that's that's the

whole draw with silencers to me. And like, the wacky part of this has always been that literally, the rest of the freaking war, you know, like, Europe, where you can't have fun fun is illegal, as a matter of fact, large, you can't have fun. Fun is illegal as a matter of fact. Largely yes. Blasphemy. Also illegal. One of my favorite hobbies. But you can buy a silencer over the counter at a hardware store. In fact it's illegal to hunt without them in certain countries. It is and it's considered rude even if it's not illegal. How about that? It is rude. I mean look let's be honest when are you most likely to see a deer?

Dawn and dusk. People are you most likely to see a deer? Dawn and dusk. People are probably in bed, especially on a Saturday morning at dawn. God, I hope you are. And you're not like me. Yeah, but I think that's kind of my point of view is that like, there's lots of good reasons to have silencers. There's not a lot of good reasons to, you know, criminalize them

and regulate them nearly out of existence and The only thing I keep hearing from opponents is they make guns quieter like that's a problem Well to be fair one of the big reasons behind making them illegal back in the day was to control poaching And a lot of poachers were using suppressors. Kay? Nick? A lot of poachers also use bows. Phil, have you shot a bow? Yes. Have you shot a suppressed rifle? Yes. Which is quieter? The bow. Always. But let me ask you a question there, Nick. Mm hmm. So what you're telling me is, is that we made silencers. I wouldn't say illegal.

This common part of the reason they were regulated was so that only rich people would have them and rich people are less likely to be poachers. Yes. I mean, a 200 hour tax stamp on like a five dollar silencer back in 1930 34 was For all intents and purposes making them illegal. Mm-hmm, but I'm a little confused poaching is illegal, isn't it? I do believe yes. So if a person is going to poach Do the crime. Yes Then why wouldn't they just do extra crime to get away with the first crime? Well traditionally

According to my uncle's when I was growing up you are to only commit one felony at a time because you're far more likely to get away with it. OK, like if you're going to speed, don't speed while you're, say, drinking or while the passenger is driving and the driver's hanging out the side of the car window. OK, not your case for banning suppressors has not been made. I'm calling all of this government shenanigans. Agreed. And especially the fact that, I mean, just anyway, you know how I feel about preemptive policing? It's a stupid idea and it always is and it never works well.

And every time the government declares war on something, it usually doesn't accomplish much. Like, you know, the Japanese, well, they declared the war on drugs and then, you know, drugs didn't go away and they declared the war on poverty and poverty got worse. We still do have the Japanese.

And they, you know, the only thing they haven't. The only thing that worries me is if they declare a war on government corruption, that's going to frigging go to 11. Yeah. Probably. Well, you know, so let's say all goes well. Hearing Protection Act goes into effect. Suppressor market booms because it's going to so my my my

extraordinarily overpriced and underappreciated business degree tells me that You know, so you and I were talking most right before the show started what we are in the midst of right now is an extreme Market disruption. Yes. So the suppressor market is being artificially... The supply is being artificially suppressed. I don't think it's... It's not just the supply is being suppressed.

The demand is being suppressed and that in turn is precluding supply from increasing because the supply is never going to appreciably increase until demand appreciably increases. And demand has been increasing over the last 20 years. Oh, absolutely. As that $200 tax stamp, $200 has become less and less and less money. And especially now the NFA wait times for certain types of transfers has come down appreciably. The market is accelerating, but it's still accelerating against the brakes. And the brakes are, as long as there's an NFA process, as long as there's a tax stamp involved, and you and I were talking about this, right now, it's not just that you have to pay a 200 hour tax stamp for your silencer,

but the company that produces it has to pay a tax stamp for form one. So before before the suppressor, the silencer even gets built, there's already 200 hours of markup in that SUV because you can rest assured. Ballpark should probably cost anyway. No, like, yeah the the suppressor Raw stock to finish product should cost less than 200 dollars. Now that wouldn't be retail price. That would be the producers Input yeah, but let's say you've got two hundred dollars plus another two hundred

From the the form one for the tax stamp and then you've got extra money tied up in the distribution that all has to be very tightly controlled and then you got more retail markup tied up and the fact that somebody's got to keep this thing on their books and in their showcase and controlled while the NFA process goes through and then until recently silencers weren't trading hands really fast so you might have to sit on the thing for a year year months so yeah so it's just one of those things where it's like you know the market has always been

kind of hitting and it's the market has always been kind of Tanya Harding in the friggin kneecap yeah by the NFA and if the NFA were to go away tomorrow or silencers were to come off of the NFA My prediction is that the silencer market goes to the moon overnight. You will not be able to buy a suppressor Anywhere in this country for any price for well, yeah for any price and then after that it will be for no sane price Because when these things can trade hands, just like a pack of chewing gum, they are like the price is just going to explode. Right, because the demand is going to increase far faster

than the supply can. So one of the big things we wanted to talk about here is what we can do as a stopgap measure. What can we make with our home shops and our home skills that will do the job in the interim? Yeah. And before we go any further down this road, my buddy, the actor, is practicing his lines and he is telling me that you should absolutely not act on any of this information you find

it on the show unless you have followed the appropriate forms and asked for your governing body for the appropriate permission to do so without going to federal prison. And if you fail to do that, it is on you, not on us. Have a good day. Yeah, definitely. Don't do that. File a form one. Technically nothing that we're going to tell you here is illegal to do, assuming you get your tax stamp, which is some bullshit. Yes. And it's also worth pointing out in case somebody who's a YouTube lawyer

would like to contact me afterwards There is absolutely nothing we're gonna discuss here That is not all over the son of a bitch in the internet already true. I know I looked as a matter of fact There's about three dozen videos on YouTube about how silencers works. I don't know wines My mind's been taken down, but you know, whatever. Ah, well, you know so essentially what a suppressor is, is a device that expands the area, or well, it slows down the expansion of gas

as it comes out of your firearm, okay? Through the use of multiple chambers, slows that gas down and cools it down so that there is less of a less of the pop from the gas coming out of the muzzle of your gun, right? Very simple Phil. So what you really need is you need a hollow tube that can be attached to your muzzle that can resist pressure and then you need a series of baffles staged throughout that and a hole between those baffles that fits

or is a close fit with whatever caliber you're shooting. Pretty simple, right? Not a whole lot to it. All right, you titled this section Bubba Engineering. Here are some things that you can make suppressors out of that I don't recommend. Technically it works. You bring up every once in a while the fuel filter or the oil filter suppressors out of that I don't recommend. Technically it works. You bring up every once in a while the fuel filter

or the oil filter suppressors. You thread an adapter onto the end of your gun. You thread the fuel filter onto the adapter. Okay, nice and easy quick, right? Don't even have to do any drilling. Don't have to punch any holes in it. The bullet will take care of the first hole. You just have to file a form one

and then put a serial number on the side of the oil filter. But yeah, continue. Correct. first hole. You just have to file a form one and then put a serial number on the side of the oil filter but yeah correct. In theory, the Hearing Protection Act go through, you could make infinite number of oil filter suppressors. Now these things... I just had a thought everybody should probably buy two or three actual filters for their vehicle. Oh, shit. Yeah, that's actually not a bad point because because dumb fucks are going to be doing this all over the goddamn place. And then we go through a lot of fuel oil filters. I don't think you're going to be able to find the friggin extra

tall fuel to extra oil filter for a four or five liter anywhere. Like the great big meaty ones. Those are going to disappear. Tractor filters, too, because those things are already about that damn long. So anyway, if you've ever looked inside of an oil filter, or if you haven't, you'll know that it is a series of paper baffles in that oil filter. Hot gas coming out of the end of the barrel of a gun,

not great for paper. So what's going to happen very quickly is that paper is going to get shredded and you're going to lose the baffling effect of the oil filter very quickly. You're going to get, from what I've heard, somewhere in the neighborhood of a dozen to 24 shots of somewhat suppressed, but not very well suppressed. So, you know, most of a mag, unless it's a big high caliber rifle, like a 300 Win Mag or something, that might just explode it.

Another thing you can do is the old school two liter, two liter bottle over the end of a 22. Works for, again, you know, a dozen, maybe 10 shots somewhere around there. Another one that I've seen before people do is, you know the tennis ball tubes? Yeah, those are like four tennis balls. So what you do is you drill a hole in the one end of the tennis ball tube, stick that

over the barrel, cut all your tennis balls in half and stack them cup side towards the gun on the first few and then other way out toward the muzzle. And then you tape over the front end. That gives you a little bit more, still doesn't last very long. Don't have to poke any holes and it doesn't really require any power tools. But again, you're going to be limited to caliber. You're going to want to be in the smaller, either pistol caliber range or like 22s, stuff like that.

Now, if you step up into like, I'm gonna call it some power tools required, you can get into like the new 3D printed suppressors people are putting out there, which some of them are having success with 556 and 223. I haven't seen any 30 calcans successful yet, but a lot of nine mil, a lot of 45. I don't know about like 10 mil, I haven't seen,

but definitely 22LR. People are using carbon fiber copolymers and stuff like that in their 3D printers to print both the baffles and the shell. A lot of people have gone to printing the baffles and the shell. A lot of people have gone to printing the baffles out of whatever 3D printed material they have and then using a carbon fiber tube over the top of it for some of the lighter calibers.

If you guys want those files, technically they're not illegal to own, they are illegal to make without filing a Form 1. You can get them from a variety of places on the internet. Just google suppressor STL file, hit enter and they will pop up. It is not difficult to find them. They are, I assume, not difficult to print. They look fairly simple. Then we've got the old standby solvent traps. They're pre-threaded to fit some of the common muzzle thread sizes. They are not a suppressor until you drill a hole in the last end cap. But once you do, it is then legally considered a suppressor. So they've got a complex, usually aluminum.

Sometimes you can get them out of titanium, baffle system in them. A lot of guys use them for their form ones because they're actually surprisingly good for what they are. You can get those things for, I think the last time I saw solvent traps on Alibaba or somewhere like that, they're like 25 to $50,

depending on what you got them made out of. But again, not technically a suppressor until you drill a hole through it. Now, this is where you can maybe get into a little bit of legal trouble if you buy this stuff before you file your Form 1. Because... Constructive intent. Yeah, yeah. The ATF has tried to claim that just because you have one of these solvent traps and a drill press and the right size drill that you were intending to make a suppressor. And I would say that filing a Form 1 is also constructive intent because you've shown the intent to create the suppressor by filing the Form 1.

So I'd also like to point out at this moment that Cody Wilson had spent a not inconsequential amount of time or money trying to keep his ass at federal prison because he pissed off the department. He pissed off the US federal government by publishing 3D printer files on how to make a firearm. And thank God he did because now we have got a ruling in our favor that none of those files are considered a violation of the law. Yes, but the reason I bring up Cody Wilson is just as kind of a warning to everybody out there that there is a difference between I haven't broken the law and I have convinced the powers to be, I haven't broken the law.

And if you find yourself in the gray area between the two, you could find yourself spending way more time and way more money than you prefer to try to keep your butt out of prison. And I agree, I am always very proud of the people who like stand on business and put their butt on the line and do what's right to try to get a ruling in favor of freedom and the people. But that's a hard road to hoe when you're the person having to do the hoeing. Absolutely is. You know, don't, I guess all I'm going to say about that is don't play that game if you're not willing

To suffer the potential consequences. Yeah Or just keep your freaking mouth shut about it. You could also do that You could also follow form one you could also follow and Andrew's telling me again. I have to remind It's something like every 15 minutes I have to remind the audience like you should do government paperwork and pay money to keep out of prison I mean Al Capone went to prison because he didn't pay the tax man If you're gonna do crime at least pay your taxes because the ATF will find you or not the ATF the IRS will find you

Oddly enough if you grease government palms you tends to out of jail. Oh and um, just in case anybody's Curious, I don't know if y'all fully white community guidelines removal spicy mufflers. There you go What yes guidelines do we violate Phil firearms firearms content again? Oh, no Yeah content that shows someone live streaming while holding handling or transporting a firearm isn't allowed on YouTube. I Handling or transporting a firearm isn't allowed on YouTube. I guess my hands must be firearms Nick or maybe maybe my beard is maybe that's problem when I do when I do this Be the beard is that handling the guns Phil it must it must be it must be I don't know Stop stroking your forearms on the show that you know, you can't see my forearms the camera is too zoomed in

But I don't know what the issue is. I I have appealed this I'm not really expected to go anywhere cuz last Yeah, the last time I appealed this exact same ruling I literally got told we have ruled and we are not we were not reviewing it great. Well fuck them So but that's why you should what that's why you should subscribe to Us on YouTube and Facebook and rumble because they're not gonna take us down and all of them Nope, probably not. I might actually take this video stream and toss it up on patreon just for the patreon So they could actually like, you know have the opportunity to watch this. Yeah, why not? So maybe you two thought your satellite was a weapon. It's possible. Rachel, are you building space lasers?

Based on the average intelligence of the people that I am assuming work for Google and Metta? I don't know. Anyway, could go even a little more old school for a some power tools suppressor build. A lot of people here be familiar with the term freeze plug. What it is is a stamp sheet metal component that you would put into an engine block to prevent the block from cracking in case it froze.

Pretty sure Stewart mentioned that. Yeah, Stewart did bring that up to us. Which, I mean, he was- That's one of the old school standbys. Well, he was around when Henry Ford installed freeze plugs on the Model T, so he would know. He would. So essentially what you do with that is

you're gonna have to find yourself some thin-walled, either welded with the weld cleaned up on the inside or unwelded thin-walled tubing. And you just drill a hole in the freeze plugs, stack them up in the tubing, and then weld caps on the end with one having a hole in it and one having a threaded hole in it.

And you end up with a fairly rudimentary but very functional suppressor. Now you could go a little more old school than that and go with like a glass pack muffler sort of situation. A lot of guys would use either a thin walled hydraulic tube for the outside or a copper pipe for the outside and then a copper pipe for the inner tube with just a bunch of holes

drilled in it all along the length. You put those tubes together with end caps and you fill the intervening space in between those two tubes with steel wool, copper wool, anything like that that can just slow down that gas expansion throughout. Those are kind of your options for like semi-built. Oh yeah, freeze plugs in a mag light. Yep, that was another one I was gonna bring up. The old mag light tubes, the D-cell ones, work pretty good for rifle calibers. The short D-cell ones work pretty good for pistol calibers from what I've heard. If you can find the freeze plugs that do fit in them You may have to do some light machining or sanding to get that stuff to fit Yep, I knew Stewart would pipe a glass pack type of the first I build in the 80s

He said in the 80s. I think he meant the 1880s. Yeah, you know All right, so Just everybody knows I I'm not I'm not discriminated against the elderly Stewart is not that old This is not fun 18. He was not born in the 1880s and I pick on everybody this much. So It is kind of a thing but yes, the prosumer machining so I'm thinking like you know for those of you out there who aren't bubba banging stuff together in the garage and are better at JB welding than actual welding. But for those of you who have

actual skills and machining tools and should probably move to a state where silencers not illegals, you can open a little side business just thinking out loud. Yeah, yeah, I know. I would like to move out of the state, but that would require an almost one hour drive to my current job, and I like my job. Bro, you'll be you. You could work 20 hours a day making silencers

for the next five years and not get bored. I could absolutely. Yeah, you know, so for the Bubba stuff, you can do a lot of that with a handheld corded or cordless drill. I don't recommend it. Get a cheap Harbor Freight drill press and a vice. It is safer. It is better quality results and you will save your fingers, Phil. Hang out.

Yeah. fingers, Phil? Hang out. Yeah. So for those of us that have the compulsion to collect work and bring it home in the form of the lathe you guys can sort of see behind me... Sorry, Rachel. It's alright. It's fine. It's fine. The steel chips are mostly contained to this small area of the basement. Should I tell her about the thing I sent you the other day to encourage bad behavior? Nope. Because my buddy Rich is already trying to get me to buy at least a Bridgeport and one of his CNC machines, but I don't have the garage big enough. So for those of you that have access to machine tools like I do, you can take sort of the

next step up and you can build yourself custom sized tubing, custom sized baffles. You can get into more exotic materials and you're going to work on like a drill press. For instance, if you happen to know some people that have machine shops and you can collect bits of Phil, you leave it alone. I'll I'll I'll let you and your wife have that discussion. My wife is trying to get Phil to tell her what he tried to get me to buy.

Okay, in the name of full disclosure, Rachel, he's not going to get it because he's already looking at something else I'm already looking at the exact same thing just a couple towns over instead of a couple states over Yeah, but in but in my defense After he bullied me into buying a shotgun. I owed him one he does. Yes Uh, you know, although if I bullied you into buying like a 10,000 rp shop equipment, you'd probably bully me into buying a freaking M1 Abrams or something. I mean, and look, escalation has consequences, Phil. I was about to say escalation has consequences.

Where were we? So if you have a lathe and you say, know some guys that do some titanium turning for the aerospace industry, and they have some leftover cutoffs, just happen to be laying around, you know, not hurting anybody. You bring a couple dozen donuts in a box to the shop

on a Friday morning, you're like, hey, you guys gonna dig through the scrap pile. You might be able to get yourself enough titanium to make, say, half a dozen tubes for suppressors in a variety of sizes. Now, that's gonna take a lot more time investment and a lot more education for yourself and a lot more tooling costs.

You can put together one of those solvent trap suppressors for in the neighborhood of let's call it, let's call it 300 bucks. Get yourself a set of drill bits, a decent, halfway decent little vise from Harbor Freight, little Harbor Freight drill press and the solvent trap. And then you pay your $200 and you can make yourself a suppressor. You end up

about the same cost as a silencer copistol suppressor. But when you make your next suppressor, your $200 tax stamp and your $50 solvent trap kit or your hundred count bag of inch and a quarter freeze plugs and 10 pieces of pipe. Joe's asking, isn't titanium sparky when used as a suppressor? So titanium will burn, but it has to do with how fine the particulate matter of the titanium is and how much surface area there is to weight of titanium. So titanium is fairly safe like in an ingot or in a pipe. You can actually even get it really hot. You can use titanium for a lot of things that get very high temperatures because the

ratio of surface area to the weight of the material is high enough it can't get to the ignition point. of surface area to the weight of the material is high enough it can't get to the ignition point. If your suppressor is getting hot enough to ignite titanium in like a tubular form with the baffles all formed you're probably shooting more than is well I'm not gonna say reasonable because I like shooting a lot too. You're probably shooting more than my budget would allow at once. There are some metals that you really don't want to machine at home, titanium being one of them because the chips can catch fire sometimes. So if you're going to do that, make sure you have the correct fire suppression equipment,

which is why I won't be doing any titanium turning in my basement back here because a titanium, a metallic titanium fire in my house sounds like a really terrible decision that my wife would probably beat me over. She would be upset. She would be very upset. Rightly so, but you know, odds it wouldn't be a problem. I don't think it would be a problem. I've turned titanium before and I've never had it catch fire, but it was also flooded

with coolant. I can't do coolant flood on my 1920s lathe. It just isn't equipped for that. But what I can do is turning a lot of aluminum. And aluminum suppressors, still pretty light, not as light as titanium, not as strong as titanium. But if you, Stewart, he is talking to other people, important people. No, I'm actually reviewing the,

I was actually reviewing the fact that it took YouTube a grand total of six minutes to individually review our stream and confirm that we were displaying firearms outside of a range. We were displaying firearms. Okay. Yeah, I did not display anything. I mean, unless my safe counts as a firearm.

See I mean, there's not even any fire in the background right now. safe counts as a firearm. See. I mean, there's not even any fire in the background right now. The annoying part of this is. When I break the rules and I get caught breaking the rules, I'm not even about it. No, that's fair. I got caught. Yep. But it don't get caught. Really, really sticks in my craw when I intentionally try to be a good boy and play by the rules

and still get penalized. That genuinely aggravates me. Yeah. Right. So now I just have to wonder how I can be a gigantic pain in YouTube's behind. Anyway, that'd be a start flagrantly displaying firearms. Yeah, the funny thing is I've got like we've got like a year and a half of streams where there was frickin an AR 15 of that background and nobody said anything about it back then. So probably don't. Yeah, I don't know what to tell you. Joe just says, how do gun tubers get away with videos damn defy now

That's they are big enough channels That is how best I can tell is when you get big enough and when you're slinging around of ad revenue when you pitch a Fit YouTube listens and when you run a small Podcast like this they are more than happy to just smash the button on you for reasons. Right, because our audience, as devoted as it is, and we do appreciate you guys, they are not going to get a million or a hundred thousand emails angry about why their favorite show is not on the air tonight from you guys, because there's just not that many of you.

And okay, fair enough. YouTube is the bigger kid in the yard right now and they can hit us with the bat when they feel like it. Fair enough. Yeah, but you know, last time I let Sleeping Dogs Live, this time I might actually just download the video from the stream and just raw post it. I would.

What can they do? Hit me with it. This is not a live stream. It's not a live stream I mean, I guess they could always just whack play whack-a-mole and take that down too But just I don't know put it up with a one at the end and then two and then we'll see how many numbers you got To add to the title before they just let it through You know better than to encourage my bad behavior. Oh I will absolutely encourage you to be a pain in the ass to the YouTube overlords.

Yeah anyway sorry for getting distracted. I was multitasking with administrative work. So if you want to build a suppressor somewhat close to like a pro grade suppressor or an off the shelf suppressor you probably are going to need a lathe, a mill, potentially an OD it or an ID grinder or a bench grinder that you are comfortable with doing OD grinding. Essentially what you need is fairly precision-fit components. You need to be able to cut and thread external diameters and internal diameters as well as shape conical baffles. These conical baffles do a little bit better. It's a fluid dynamics thing that I don't personally really understand, but I realize all the major manufacturers do it that

way somewhat conical baffles so that's what I would probably aim for or you could if you really wanted to step up you could go to buying yourself a CNC mill and making one of the new monolithic core suppressors. So you would then, you would turn and thread the outside of the core that goes inside your inner tube and then you would set it up on a fourth axis or a five axis mill and mill your baffle cores, your baffle openings inside of that. Like I believe it's like the,

was it the mythic series of suppressors with some of the first ones, the monolithic cores that were all hollowed out. Those would be fairly easy to do even on like a manual mill because realistically what it is is just a bunch of plunge cuts and a little bit of milling, but it's going to take, I mean, you're going to be talking about instead of the, the 20 minutes of effort to drill one hole in the, um, in the solvent trap, you're probably talking about a few weekends of work to make your own, to make your own accurate baffles for everything. So, you know, there are options that you guys can go into if this does go through.

If you don't have access to a lot of power tools, your best bet is probably going to be, Jeff is saying that Monolithic is just a washer weld core. Sometimes, sometimes they are machined out of a solid billet stock. It depends on who's making it. And sometimes they're 3D printed as, as we're seeing, and somebody's really, really cutting edge designs. Yeah. With the, with the helical, helical baffle systems

and backfeed baffle system, some of them, yeah. Look, I'm gonna be honest with you guys, 3D printed metal suppressors are not within the realm of any of our budgets. The machines to do it properly and the machines to center it afterwards are, you're talking five, six figures on the low end for the machine and you're probably talking

about weeks to months of trial and error to get that stuff up and running unless you have extensive experience with metal 3D printing. I don't. I've got plastic 3D printers and honestly with as often as they screw up, I don't know that I would want to trust a metal 3D print that I couldn't X-ray inspect personally to find out if there's voids or missing adhesion somewhere, especially if I was gonna toss it on the end of say,

my 300 wind mag that I have nicely tuned. I'd rather not be getting baffle strikes and or having a somewhat of a squib where I get around stuck in the suppressor. You don't want to play pop goes the silencer. I just don't think it's ready yet for non-experts. Stuart is correct. If the Hearing Protection Act makes it through the continuing resolution, oops, I hit it. Stop it, Nick. I'm trying to help, Damio. Start building quick because the Dems win the House and Senate and the White House in 2028. They can put it back in and worse VCR. That is probably correct, Unfortunately. Yeah. I mean, and

and just just to start to round this out, like, I'm going to be real honest, I think the chance of HPA getting through is slim to begin with. I do too. I am my reasoning for that is I bearing in mind that is 2025. I'm 42 years old. I've lived through more than a handful of presidential administrations. I've watched them. I keep wanting to use words, but then I don't want to use those words because words have meanings.

I've watched what most would consider the body of the GOP Alter itself quite radically over the last 20 years I'm seeing a faction within the GOP that genuinely seems to kind of have this whole Shrink government right size the budget decrease regulation screw stupid laws More freedom they kind of have that vibe in their hearts. And I'm encouraged by that, comma, however, comma, that is not the mainstream Republican. And most of those-

And it probably will never be. And most of those pompous assholes are not going to vote for something like this, nor are they gonna vote for anything that reinforces the Second Amendment, nor are they to vote for something like this nor are they going to vote for anything that reinforces the Second Amendment or are they going to vote for Anything that restores gun rights until the people who? proverbially exam what I have the FBI visit me but proverbially put a gun to their head and for and threaten to vote them primary them out of their freaking seats

That is the only version of reality where any of these jerks Get it through their thick freaking skulls that the Second Amendment means what it means and we want it to mean what it mean and we're putting our foot down. So until that day comes and that day is not gonna come by the way until a majority of the populace is willing to stand on business and say do this or else. Correct. And the majority of registered voting Republicans in my my experience, are still terrified at the idea of being able to buy machine guns out of vending machines. So the idea of deregulating silencers is just way too far for most of them to go. So I don't I think this all is controlled

opposition, smoke and mirrors. No, I think the inclusion of the Hearing Protection Act in the continuing resolution is a poison pill thrown in there so that the Republicans can say, oh we can't get this passed because of yada yada yada, but if we get rid of this will you sign it Democrats? That's well and is and there's a there's a much more Machiavellian possibility here. Mm hmm. And it is that the GOP included this knowing it would be a non-starter. Mm hmm. Just so they could say we tried and gun rights are losing battle. Mm hmm. And when this fails and when this fails, this is their engraved

invitation to say we have to ignore the crazy gun people because their issue is not winning elections. It's not winning his favor in the House and the Senate. It is a losing issue. We have to ignore the crazy gun people. Yeah, because they actually get us that they won't they think they're not going to get as much funding next time Yeah now, oh you saw we solved your issue now Understand as I tell Stuart most because Stuart and I have Stuart is a wealth of information

He and I have talked this and many are things to death and I've always finished my opinion off with I Am happy to be proven wrong. Yep, like whenever I pontificate and I say, this is what I think is going to happen, I don't see this going through, I live to be proven wrong. And I have been proven wrong occasionally. And I literally giggled. We got concealed carry in Illinois. We got concealed carry in Louisiana. We got constitutional carry in Louisiana. I was shocked by that. I mean, it was a happy shocked but I'm still shocked. I'm still shocked. Fantastic. I love being wrong on those kinds of things cuz I'm kind of a pessimist when it

comes to government. Yeah but honestly like I just can't see HPA going through. I really really can't. II if I'm wrong and in a couple of months we look back on this and think, wow, Phil really had this misjudged and you can't buy a suppressor for any reasonable amount of money and people that are sitting on five or six extra cans or cash them in for retirement plans. Fantastic. I would love to be wrong. I just don't see it because I have never known government to relinquish power except under duress and while kicking and screaming like a toddler. And I have never known government to of like disarmatards and fuds that permeate our

government at all levels to just be reasonable human beings for once and realize that the thing they're fighting over is not that big of a deal. Like if they put this much freaking effort into making sure that if this much effort was put into tracking down people that actually commit crimes with firearms instead of just policing pre-crime with firearms, we'd probably have a safer country. Yeah, but people that commit crimes with firearms are dangerous, Phil. Don't you care about the safety of police officers? As a matter of fact, I do.

And I also think that if you put a badge on your chest, then danger comes with territory. Sorry, not sorry. Don't hear a lot of firefighters complaining about getting lit on fire. I mean, look, we have a very close friend of ours that is in law enforcement. I have a brother-in-law in law enforcement. I know a lot of cops and I admit their job is dangerous and I don't see any of them put in danger unnecessarily But if you put the badge on your frickin chest your jobs to go after people that probably want to kill you and want to Kill me, too

Sorry, not sorry. That's part of your job. Oh, yeah, that's why the pension in the medical is as good as it is Look, there's a lot of dangerous jobs out there. You don't see me bitching about getting steel chips in my hands at work Steel chips come with the territory. Bad guys trying to harm you come to the territory of being a cop. My wife just poked her head around the corner to say she was home and I'm like, you want to come on? She said no. More than welcome to. No. I think we will go and wrap this up though. I mean, I think this was fun to talk about. I definitely think that if HPA went bye-bye tomorrow, I'd probably be bubba-bubba-banging nonsense in my garage. And if it blows up, it blows up.

I will send you so much raw material. But here's the reason I want to talk about this. Because if theoretically the NFA went away tomorrow or silencers come off of the NFA registry Then there's literally not much reason not to try to screw around with some top with some homemade silencers And to your point if they last 20 or 30 shots who freaking cares So I know guys filter thing, please leave my truck oil filters alone. There are better things to make suppressors oil filters alone. There are better things to make suppressors on us. But my point is, is that like we in the gun community burn down like 30, 40 bucks worth of ammo shooting washers and dryers in the woods. I mean, we do, we do dumb, we, we waste

money doing dumb stuff because it's just fun. I have blown up more one pound propane tanks than I have probably ever emptied the proper way. So I guess that's kind of my point is that I do think that if HPA goes away, if HPA goes through, I do think there's a lot of there's gonna be a lot of guys there's the silencers will be the Wild West, all the ones that are professionally made will get histrionically expensive in the near term. And

eventually, like, demand will calm down a little bit. Probably Palmetto State Armory, sponsor of the show, will start making silencers. The market will eventually do this. It will. But in the near term, it's gonna do this. And this is gonna stay right here for a while. You know, the thing of it is though,

is you gotta remember guys that the cost and time to manufacture these things, the material to manufacture these things, aren't going to get fantastically cheaper. Even if we get say a PSA 556 can and a PSA 9 mil can, I don't see a PSA 9 mil can being less than like 200 bucks. I don't see a PSA 556 rifle can being less than 350 or 400 just from the time it would take. Unless it is almost entirely stamped sheet metal with a tube then maybe you get under that price point. But the quality control that you have to have on suppressors is to an extent that you're

not going to be successful and have a good reputation for them at too much lower of a price point. I just don't think you will. Now I will say that if HPA happens, I truly believe- Stuart says there were rebel cans at 99 bucks. Hey man, maybe I'm wrong, but I just, I don't see the cost of manufacturing being that low, but I think if you're wrong.

I think in the longterm, we will see an explosion of different shops getting into the space. A lot of small shops and a lot of machine shops that don't traditionally make Silencers are gonna start running a third shift making them because there's gonna be so much profit margin in them in the short term Like it's gonna be the Wild West. I mean I have all of the tooling Necessary to do them. It would take me Two and a half hours to get everything set up to start running them off at work on a

professional floor axis? No, not even in Minecraft. Dude, I'm a machinist. Are you kidding me? I'm a tool maker. I am constructive intent. You can't put me in a machine shop and claim that I couldn't make a machine gun with what's in there or I couldn't make a silencer.

That's why I think constructive intent is the most bullshit thing I've ever heard for a legal justification. I'm sorry. I have all of the equipment and skillset to make all of the parts needed for a machine gun or a suppressor or a bomb, except for the explosives. Did I ever share with you the picture of the AR-15 lower that was made out of a two by four? I know, it's not even that

difficult to do. You can do it with a handheld chisel. Yeah, the fact that somebody made a lower out of a 2x4 is just... maybe it was a 2x6. I don't recall. No, I think it was a 2x4 and then a piece of 2x screwed on the bottom for the pistol grip if memory serves. But I mean, yeah, your point is well taken, you know, constructive intent is stupid, but it's horseshit. Yeah. You haven't broken the law, but we think you might.

We think you might. Yeah. Well, I think I might go get some extra coffee later too, but that that's not a problem either If we're gonna worry about thinking someone's breaking the law Let's look at the politicians and their insider trading for five fucking minutes before you look at anybody in their back shed Don't don't don't threaten me with a good time. I know right Yeah, but like said that that is my prediction on HPA and silencers is that if HPA goes through

silencers are gonna get really really weird for a while. And if you don't already have one you're not gonna get one for a while. Correct. And that is going to be a good opportunity for you to go down to your local hardware store and make some really weird friends. Nappa has all of the freeze plugs and pipe that you will require. And say hardware is a wonderful source of thread adapters. Just it is. But please, for the love of God, stay out of auto zone

and leave all of our truck oil filters alone. Pretty pleased with sugar on top. I do need an oil change soon. Yeah, maybe we should start a thing like extolling the virtues of like Nissan Altima oil filters because those damn things shouldn't be on the road anyway. They really shouldn't. I mean, look, they are just begging to be run into clearly. That has to be what it is.

It's got to be the car's fault. Okay, so Nissan oil filter Nissan Altima oilters are cleared hot for use as homemade silencers of age that goes through, but Toyota and Dodges are off limits. Correct. Can we agree on that? Also, Fram 1250s because that's what my tractor takes. Good point. Good point.

I think it's 1250s. All right, well, next week, I don't know what we'll talk about. We'll figure something out maybe I'll actually post the stream before the day that we have to run it if my life calms down a little bit and Frankly, I'll see if I can post this on YouTube without getting our entire channel nuked from orbit And it just won't be a live stream if we do get you to find us on rumble and Facebook We are on rumble. We are on Facebook and if God forbid we get nuked off of everything. I have a contingency plan But this is a good reason why you should subscribe to you know, YouTube and Facebook and rumble You should follow our Facebook and our Instagram. You should probably check out the audio podcast and all your favorite podcasts

you know formats just because Sometimes we discuss things that piss the powers of be off and you might want to know where plan B is gonna be taking Place but matter of fact podcast going out the door. It's a 49 p.m. And I have Some things to attend to like pissing off pissing off YouTube apparently good Good night y'all good night So Thanks for watching!