The Prepper Broadcasting Network - Matter of Facts: Nothing to Wear
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Welcome back to the Matterfax podcast on the Prepper Broadcasting Network.
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I'm your host Phil Ravley, Andrew and Nick are on the other side of the mic, and here's your show.
Okay, so this time I set up all the streams to be horizontal.
So for everybody that had to suffer through last week when things were a little wonky, you're welcome.
However, my laptop is being a little bit grumpy tonight.
So we might have to like say an omen to the machine guides to appease the omnisize.
So that way he'll allow the stream to happen.
Quite possibly.
Yeah.
But let's see here.
In the chat, I see Rangel, who I got.
to hang out with last weekend.
I was glad he made the trip over to come and see me and my wife and my daughter.
Let's see Dr. Scary Guy.
And I think I saw Jeff in here.
Yep.
Yep. Jeff's in.
Nice.
That's good.
All right.
So welcome back to Matterfax podcast, the least professional podcast you could possibly listen to.
I mean, I'm sure there's one out there with like drunken morons on it, but that's us half the time.
so I'm hydrating today instead of dehydrating I mean does what does coffee count as
there's water in it I'm going to go with that see I have this argument why I've constantly
that coffee counts as water because it's mostly water so does beer at that point well if we
want to get really dark I mean cannibalism also counts because aren't human beings like 93%
water protein about 90 70
Or is that the earth
70% water, the surface of the earth?
Humans are a certain amount water.
I don't know.
I did.
I didn't come prepared
for a serious conversation.
Well,
I don't know that your computer came prepared
for any conversation today based on the cutting out
we're getting for a meal.
I think I lost...
Nope.
We lost you.
Unless my internet's cutting out.
Looks fine from my end.
Hmm.
Interesting.
I'm getting a text from Phil.
Well, it looks like Phil might have to reboot,
so I will attempt to fail at doing the basic work.
All right.
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Yep, Phil definitely did just cut out.
Let's see if we can't guilt trip
Phil into letting me send
him a variety of computer parts on
the Patreon chat, see if we can't
upgrade his system there. Unless it was his internet,
in which case, I can't fix that.
All right.
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Phil and Gillian, some of you guys got to meet at the Cypress Survivorless event last weekend.
When Phil comes back, we're probably going to talk about that for a little bit.
And then because Phil is terrible at capitalism, I force him to talk about the MOF code at disaster coffee.com.
I cannot remember the percentage off.
This is normally Phil's job.
So now that we did the admin work, and Phil's not here to stop me, we've got to see if we can't have some of you guys bother Andrew to see if we can get him back on for maybe a Christmas episode.
I don't know, we could probably figure something out.
According to Jeff, Andrew is on a secret mission to hand count every narco boat in Venezuela.
That is going to take a shorter and shorter time, given how much those are often being destroyed.
Yeah.
So, you guys in the comments, have you been watching the news lately following what's going on with that bill?
shoot, what was that?
I can't remember the end of the bill.
To release the Epstein client list.
Do you guys actually think we're going to see anything valuable come out of that?
I mean, do you really think we're going to get anybody convicted based on this stuff?
Or do you think it's all just going to be a wash?
Let me know what you think.
I don't know.
Rago says 5%.
You mean 5% chance of anybody getting convicted or we'll see maybe 5% of what they've got?
don't know
so
a couple of the other things
we're going to talk about today
um
bill just got back from the camping trip
with cypress survival so we're going to talk
post
he calls it post deployment
checks as well as pre-deployment checks
think what he's talking about is like
your what is your checklist
for you know
before you go on a trip
and then what do you check as soon as you get home
Now,
I'll see we've got here.
Makojo says
nothing's really going to happen.
I'm with you, bud.
Jeff, they're done redacting anything useful.
Entirely, probably.
Kyle, are one of our favorite feds.
100% they won't do shit.
I do not trust the DOJ.
I don't think most of us do at this point.
I think it's probably.
gosh, you know, it used to be seen as one of the more trustworthy federal organizations,
but I think at this point it's kind of getting to be where it's one of the least trusted.
I mean, I certainly don't count on them to do their job.
Jeff, that's why they're actually, they actually poked their release at this time.
That's entirely possible it took them that long to do it.
Personally, I was leaning on the side of the DNC was trying to go through it and hold it all back for, let's say, political gains during an election cycle if they needed it.
And then Trump was holding on to it to try and sway the midterms.
Don't know.
Looks like Phil sounds way back in.
Does it fix?
We'll see in a minute or two.
For reasons, I can't explain.
Every time I try to boot this up in Chrome, it goes berserk.
Really?
Yeah, and Chrome's what I've been using on Stream Yard for a very, very long time.
What are I using?
I don't know.
I'm currently using Microsoft Edge.
Weird.
I just know this is going to be unpleasant to edit.
That's fine.
I covered your admin work.
I just can't remember what the discount code percentage was for MOF.
offy.
No, I remember the name of the discount code, but I couldn't remember what percent off it was.
A couple percent off, I think.
I'm a little discombobulated at this point.
I'm not sure what Tom Fuller is going on, but I might have to do some testing tomorrow.
Yeah.
And no, Edge is the devil.
Edge is the worst browser.
I would rather like 19, I'd rather like 2001 Internet Explorer than Edge.
Yeah, I think the only reason I'm using Edge is because I threw this computer together in like a half hour out of cobbled together spare parts.
The OS booted on the first shot, and I've not messed with it since we started doing these shows from my basement.
Yeah.
Anyway, thank you.
Firefox is better.
Thank you for, well, and I'm using Firefox now.
But I use Chrome because for years, Chrome was a, Chrome played a little bit nicer with Street.
streaming platforms and
like microphone and camera access
Firefox was always just
a little persnickety about it
but it's working
so we'll go with it
yeah well I think that's
largely because Firefox has a
smaller development team so if you've got like
a weird off brand driver
you're going to see more conflicts with Firefox
than with Google because
most people are going to want to play nice
with the Google infrastructure
anyway thanks for covering
the admin work let's get to
the mini topic before we get to the big one.
So are post-deployment checks as important as pre-deployment?
Now, let me walk you through this.
Nick, whether we're talking about like a range day, a camping trip, a vacation, or whatever,
I'm sure you kind of have like the checklist you go through.
Oh, absolutely.
You pack your stuff.
You make sure your stuff is serviceable.
You make sure you have everything you need.
You plan for all eventualities.
You make sure you have fuel.
you make sure you have oil, you make sure your tire pressures are good.
Like, you do certain things before you take the trip to try to make the trip.
Oh, absolutely.
You make sure you're stocked up on your, on your whole patch kit for your tires,
make sure your air compressor and your car works, all those, you know,
the little things that day to day, if you were to run out, you know,
between here and work, which for me is like eight miles, whoopty fucking do.
You know, 45 miles for me.
Right.
So for you, a little more critical.
That's a bitch of a walk.
Eight miles for me, it's like, great.
It's going to be, you know, uncomfortable.
That's about it.
Yeah.
So the reason I bring all this up is that because, like, you know, last weekend I took
the family out camping and because it was kind of a psychotic week at work,
like it's been a psychotic year at work, normally I take a day off before the camping
trip and a day off afterwards to like, you know, juge at work.
everything.
Yeah, absolutely.
And in this case, I happened to be off the day before we, the day we left.
But that really just meant that like when I woke up that morning, it was go, go, go, go, go, you know, drop pie profit school.
Gillian was off, thankfully.
So we spent a little bit of time hanging out here at the house.
But then like we started packing.
But the most pre-flight checks I really had to do was the day before we left, I had this entire desk filled with stuff that.
I was getting basically checked for fresh charge.
Sure.
Like I make a point of keeping all my battery powered appliances at about 80 to 100%.
Like 80% charge state is better for lithium ion.
But I top everything off to 100 before I go out, you know, before we go out camping.
Yeah.
But it almost took longer to do the post-deployment check when we got home because then it was unload the truck, put most of the stuff back.
there back on the shelves.
Right.
Those shelves get very bare for a camping trip because it all comes out and goes on the truck.
I ended up having to do, I think, six loads of laundry.
That makes sense.
Because we had to do a load of clothes, load of towels.
Then we wound up, we wound up washing clothes from one of the bathrooms because that, that
laundry bag was full.
And then three sleeping bags.
You can't wash them.
You know, you got to wash those one at a time.
They're so heavy.
And then in the process of doing the wash, side note, I broke my clothes washer and had to repair it.
That was fun.
Hmm.
Whirlpool problems.
Yeah.
Well, you know, that's any appliance if you use it heavily enough, especially with big stuff like sleeping bags.
Because depending on what you have for a sleeping bag, that thing will take on a shitload of weight in water.
So me and my wife uses like a commercial civilian.
I don't know what the name for it is.
You know how most bags are like mummy bags
Where they're kind of like tied at the toebox
Killing cannot sleep like that at all
She has to starfish out
So she has like a sleeping bag shaped like a postage stamp
Oh yeah the old the old school ones
Yeah well this one's even wider than that
Like she actually told me that
One of the couples bags?
It's not a couple's bag
It's I mean maybe if you're a couple
That's much smaller than I am
Well but you're not fitting me and my wife in there
Without a fight
but it's a bag that's big and comfortable
for like her to sleep in
but my wife my daughter and I both use
the old military sleeping systems
yeah the MMS
yeah so it takes on a lot of water weight too
they do and then
I don't dare dry them because I know better
so after they come out of the washer I throw them in the dryer
on just air tumble for like 20 minutes
to try to get all the water out
and then I hang them up to dry
yeah
but um
time since I've actually washed one of my
sleeping bags.
Yeah.
You're not supposed to wash them every single trip if you can help it.
No, it's been a couple of years.
We use ours like two to three times a year at most.
It's like every few years I'll do it, but they really don't get that dirty.
Because a lot of the times we meet my wife camp, we try to do it in the cooler weather.
So it's not like you're sweating in them.
Yeah.
But come time to actually like, you know, before we could put all this stuff away,
I had to start charging those things again.
And that was an eight-hour job to get every single thing up to 80% or 100% charge.
Like the Jackarie charge is fairly fairly quickly off the wall socket.
So that didn't take too, too long.
I realized when we got home, we'd been running one of the Beofang radios basically as a weather radio.
And another one, I think the one I get it to my daughter, probably got left on.
And so it was dead as a doornail when we came home.
Like I realized that when I plugged in and charged and immediately lit up.
And I was like, oh, you got left on.
That's unfortunate.
And then we had two little puck lights, a lantern, the battery powered fan, which we used kind of like in the gear loft for white noise and everything and circulate the air in the tent.
That can help a lot.
It can.
But it was an eight-hour job to get all that stuff recharge for it could all get put away.
Yeah.
plus the laundry plus putting all the stuff away and i got to thinking to myself i'm like you know
part of the reason why it was so fast for us to get our stuff into the truck in the first place
was because like putting everything on a charger just that evening like make sure it was
topped off that took an hour and a half two hours yeah almost everything was stored already
fully charged or close to it um everything was already really packed like the
a lot of my big tough boxes, they stay packed with all the stuff that we know we're going to want for a camping trip.
So it's not like I'm having to like find this, buy this.
It's already in the box.
And if it's not in the box, we replenish it before we put the box away.
So it makes a lot of sense.
So it got me thinking about this idea that like it's the post deployment checks that make the pre-deployment checks faster and simpler.
Absolutely.
It's kind of like the reason why to this day, like every.
fireman in this house stays loaded at all times. They all stay secure, but they all stay loaded
because I don't want to hear glass break in the middle of the night and have to figure out which
gun has a magazine in it. The answer is yes. If I pick it up, it is condition three or cruiser ready.
It is ready to start rocking and rolling. If I pick up a radio in this house, it's ready to turn on
and start doing work. It's already programmed. It's already charged. It's ready to go. If I grab,
that's those sleeping bags. If I grab
like one of the bundles of sleeping bags, I know I've got
a cold weather and a warm weather bag in there. I've got
the Gortex. I've got everything I need in there.
I'm ready to go. And that's
kind of the way, whether it's
camping stuff or prepared and stuff, that's the way
everything is set up. It is stored
ready to use.
So I kind of make that argument
that the reason why I can grab
anything off the shelf and
just trust it's going to work
is because when I get home, I don't
just throw it up against a wall and then
you know, abandon it. I take the time to clean it, recharge it, recondition it, replenish it,
whatever's needed, and then it goes into storage. But it goes into storage, ready to do work if it's
called upon. That makes a lot of sense. I mean, a lot of what I do for post checks is a lot of our
trips are vehicle-based road trips. We don't really fly anywhere. And we like to bring our dog
with us as much as we can because she does
not handle
being left with other people very well
she's very high stress little dog
she's a rescue she's a rescue
and it takes her a very long time to
warm up to new people
especially if me or my wife are not there
so we take
our personal vehicles to a lot of places
well so when we get back
usually what we do is
everything comes in everything goes
down to the basement onto the game tables
we have a couple big
gaming table set up for wargaming or D&D
magic gathering stuff like that down in our basement
actually just on the other side of the wall for me here
all of it gets all laid out except for the laundry
laundry just goes immediately into the wash
that's easy to do not a problem
but I usually don't do the post
deployment checks as you call on them
the day we get back
because
exhaust it but what I do over the next week is I
will go through every single thing we took with us, check the state of repair it's in,
any charges, anything that's got disposable batteries in it, like a lot of our camp had lamps,
they use AAAs. I got a sister with a connection that gets this really cheap, high-quality
AAA batteries, so we use a lot of disposables for those. All the batteries get pulled out
because we might not use that stuff again for three to six months. And so what I'll do
then is I put those batteries in a separate little plastic battery container so that if the
batteries do go bad in the meantime, great, I can clean that container out. It hasn't destroyed
the electronic device. Then we don't get parasitic discharge, draining the battery out, just
sitting in the thing. You know, check your, check your tire pressure, check your fluid levels
in the vehicles. Verify, you know, your mileage.
on your vehicle, make sure you're not gone over your mileage for oil changes and stuff like
that. Take a look at your brakes. Take a look at your belts, wipers, anything like that
on your vehicle is a lot of what I go over. Because a lot of the stuff we take with us is stuff
we also use in everyday life. I mean, we have our camping boxes that we use. I've got a,
I think it's a box for 100 millimeter rockets. It's a British 100 millimeter big metal rocket
box, old military surplus thing
I picked up somewhere. That thing will fit
a Coleman stove, several
of the little green refillable
propane cylinders,
most of the cooking utensils we need,
and it's all right there. So if we ever have
whenever we have like that
ice storm that I've mentioned on here before,
I can grab that,
take it into the garage or take it up
into my kitchen, and I have everything I
need to start cooking
right there in that box. It all goes
right back in there.
Kyle, be prepared to have stuff bust your windshield in Indiana.
Yes.
What's going on in Indiana?
Kyle and his family caught that lug nut off a semi to the windshield on their own.
Oh, Jesus, yes.
That almost came through their windshield.
That was a nasty hit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
To Raggle's point, yeah, we wound up leaving Saturday.
Not that we couldn't have, because, like, we were originally planning on coming home Sunday.
11 noonish and I could have got everything done that afternoon if I needed to but um you know for us
it was more just fact that like he'd come out to see us on Saturday my parents spent some spent a
couple hours with us hanging out around the campfire and you know after that it was kind of like
okay there's we're literally doing nothing else here except sleeping in a tent one more night or we
can pack it up and we could shower and be in our beds tonight so you know those are the decisions
you can make when you're only camping like 45 minutes
away from home. Absolutely.
A little bit of a different situation if you're in a group
and you're like, you know, eight hours from home.
That's very true.
But yeah.
That was, I mean, that was just kind of the thing I was thinking about.
Like, to me, like, I'm very upfront about the fact that like
most of this camping stuff or preparedness stuff,
it's hurricane stuff.
Like, those radios are there that way,
If the cell towers get knocked out, I can still have comms with my wife around the neighborhood.
There's a radio in the truck so that I can push out like a mile, mile and a half of Neby and still talk to her here at the house.
The man packs there so that we have comms over a longer range of Neby.
If she's here at the house and I have to be in the truck, you know, halfway across town.
The kitchen box is there to cook outside.
The lantern's there for light.
The jackery's there to provide power.
Like everything in here that we take camping is ostent.
ostensibly a soft test for all those systems to make sure they still work so that the next time the lights go out we're not caught flat-footed and so you stay proficient with them i mean it's there is a difference between cooking on a camp stove and cooking on your regular range there always is yes i can smoke cigars while cooking on my range outside you could also smoke cigars if you have an overhead exhaust head like i do my wife would tolerate zero
Zero percent of that idea, Nick, but nice try.
Yeah, mine probably wouldn't like it either.
But you can do it because we have an overhead exhausted that actually vents outside.
So, technically.
I cannot because my wife has a very strong right arm, and I have cast iron within grabbing range.
That's a dangerous business, man.
You really got to lock that dangerous weapons away.
I mean, I'm married, I was going to say, like, sexual revolution, second wave feminist.
you can't lock the dangerous weapons away anymore people people scream and yell about it well that's
fair oh you were talking with the cast iron not the wife i was more worried about the cast iron yeah
i was worried about the dangerous thing that might stove my head in we like that
a little bit of it's fun and cheeky all right main topic nothing to wear because yes as much as my
plan has always been to wait until the SHTF pops off, and then it's like combat boots,
hockey mask, and spike codpiece, I'm 99% sure that that bold plan is not going to totally
pan out, and I might actually need to wear something approximating clothing for at least a while.
I mean, clothing, as much as we are legally required to wear it, which, to be fair,
we are legally required to wear
it is the bare minimum
of PPE personal protective
equipment that you can have
and
you know if you're in a situation where things are
out of normal
having that PPE can be a serious
advantage for you because the last
thing you need is to slice
open your leg on something stupid
or slice open your foot
on something stupid and now
you're less mobile
and you have a potentially
the infected wound.
Yep. Or you get exposed.
I mean, down here, how half the reason I continue to tell everybody I wear long sleeves
year round when I'm out in the woods is mosquitoes and ticks and all sorts of other
little biting creatures.
I mean...
Well, you're closer to the equator.
So sunstroke, heat stroke, and sunburn is a serious concern.
Yeah.
And for those of you who think to yourself, like, you know, you know, you.
You got to bear in mind, like, you think about people that live in deserts.
Think like Bedouins, if you think like, you know, some of the older, more traditional tribal people in the Middle East.
Like, they, we refer to them as man jammies, but they're literally covered almost from head to toe.
And that's literally to keep the sun off of them.
Because if once you have a sunburn develop, you're going to dehydrate at an astronomically faster rate.
Oh my gosh, yes.
Like, the idea that I'm trying to be cool and comfortable flies out the window compared to I have to keep.
the angry Super Mario's son from cooking me alive.
Doc brings up a good pen of bramble bushes all over.
Dude, my property is just ringed with raspberry bushes,
which delicious, giant pain in the ass to walk through.
This entire woodline over here next to me is a constant exercise.
Every time I mow it, I have to get the weed eater or the machete or something
and cut back all the thorns that are trying to poke out of it.
And sooner or later, I will wind up having to get out there and do something really ignorant, like get the axe or the chainsaw and like genuinely like try to bushhawk some of that crap out.
Like most of the time, I say if you stay on that side of the woodline, I leave you alone.
And if it starts swinging out this direction, then I'll cut it.
But sooner or later, I'm going to have to, huh?
You need a corn knife.
I mean, I've literally got a couple of like full, full size machetes in the garage.
so that'll do all right corn knife works better on wippy stuff it's somewhat serrated it's like a
handheld sickle it's more serrated it tends to cut stuff down easier even though i wouldn't say
it's the preferred method honestly i want to be using the weed or a lot yeah it does i mean it freaks
people out a little bit when you're like whipping it around head high but it does do the job
my neighbor has a type of flowering vine that is invasive and
I don't want it getting into my yard because it will kill my nice hardwood trees.
So I will walk down her fence line at six feet high and just buzz the whole side of it off.
You're not supposed to have it planted in this state because it's invasive.
So as far as I'm concerned, it can go.
Not that I would, hmm.
In Minecraft, you should look into some herbicide.
Uh, my, speaking of herbicides in Minecraft, my grandfather, uh, acquired a particular herbicide that is no longer legal to manufacture or apply.
It sounds spicy.
It, we made the mistake of using it to kill some multiflora rosa.
And if you're familiar with that stuff, Phil, it's, it's, it's horribly tenacious.
You usually have to dig the roots out to get rid of it.
And if you miss a root, it comes back.
This stuff turned the soil gray.
Let me sing you the song of my people.
We had a little cluster of banana trees growing in my childhood home in the backyard.
Now, if anybody here has never played with banana trees, those things were invented by Satan, and they are more tenacious than herpes.
We chopped them down to the ground.
They sprung right back up out of the stumps.
We dug up the root balls.
They came back up out of the soil.
These things do not know how to die.
They are more, I mean, they're harder to kill than venereal diseases.
But I have it on good authority in Minecraft that if you happen to know some of the commercial herbicide license,
they can take some stuff that's supposed to be mixed 100 to 1 with water and pour it onto the stump undiluted.
Yep.
And nothing will grow within two feet of that stump for about five years.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, there's...
Fraggle.
Chicken trees.
I don't know it by that name, but my wife would probably be like,
my wife would probably come in and he busts the door down like the Kool-A ban and start speaking Latin and telling you about where it grows and where it's native to and all that stuff.
I literally tell my wife every time she's like, hey, cut that, but don't cut that.
I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.
You direct me exactly what you want to do because it all looks like weeds to me.
It all looks the same.
Well, when you don't know, you don't know.
Yeah.
It's a Japanese something or the other.
Okay, I'll ask Mrs. Matter of Facts about, hey, is there?
I'm sure it is.
Dude, there's so much invasive species down here because it all comes up from the Port of New Orleans and everything.
I mean, hell, neutral rats.
Yeah, neuterats are a problem.
I hear they don't taste terrible, though.
I've never eaten one.
I've been chased by one.
really are they that aggressive there's as big as cats
and
uh here's gilrab
okay uh ragglefrag was asking about chicken trees
he said it's a japanese something or another
and i told him you'd kick the door in like the kuley man and start spouting off in latin
because you probably know all about it because you're just a genius about that stuff
so
obviously phil you and i live in wildly
different climates.
Master of the understatement you are, yes.
Yeah, well.
So protective clothing for us is going to vary a bit.
For you, it's going to be, I'm going to guess, for summer, lighter, thinner cottons
to take advantage of the cooling properties of the cotton, or some of the modern, like,
what do they call them the performance microfibers?
Yeah, I don't wear them, but I know what you're talking about.
Honestly, I usually go straight to like either, if not a total cotton, like a cotton poly blend.
I tend honestly, like my go-toes are, I have some short sleeve shirts.
I have a lot of long-sleeve shirts that have like the button hook and everything where you can roll the sleeve up.
I don't own hardly any pairs of shorts, which is why my little white.
My little Irish legs are so white.
I wear long pants year-round, flip-flops in the.
summer pretty good into winter and um if i'm off the pavement and i'm out in the woods it's
closed-toed shoes i mean i'll wear flip-flops as far as like from the tent to like make
morning coffee or something but if we're going if we're going like on a hike or whatever is
immediately straight to closed-toed shoes and hiking boots i heard you say my wife my wife
through the wall and had to jump on
Your scientific feedback is important.
I mean, she's far more intelligent than I am about a lot of things, most things.
That's why it's important to have a wife.
They fill in those knowledge gaps.
So for me, a lot of the time during the summer, well, we tend to have hot, but not as hot as you do.
The sun isn't quite as bad.
so when I'm not doing
like work
shorts
yeah shorts are fine
but
Chinese tallow
see I don't think I've ever heard it called a chicken tree
but a tallow tree I have heard of
sorry Nick go ahead
you're good
but around us
you know
spring fall winter
heavy canvas pants
a lot of times I'll go for water-resistant
or at the very least
materials that don't hold water very well
or that
let's see
like nylon polyester stuff like that
but in my line of work
because I'm dealing with hot steel chips all the time
I have found that there are some of the
some of the like heavy canvas pants that are DWR treated so you get a little bit of the benefits
of the water resistance without the polyester fabric melting to your skin which is a real upgrade
in my opinion the uh huh i recognize that again the um as far as like shirts and
jackets, I tend to favor heavy canvas jackets or like wool quarters-zip pullovers.
They do a better job of keeping like the heavy thorns off you.
They do a better job of keeping the bugs off you.
They're a little bit warmer, but they're not too warm that you can't work in them.
Whereas like a lot of the puffy pullovers, the nylon is so darn thin.
If you try to do anything with them, it tends to get ripped or torn incredibly easily.
and it melts.
So, you know, I know that
summer's around here don't,
the sun isn't quite as bad down by you,
but I've gone to wearing a lot of the,
like, the Huck and the performance fishing shirts
when I'm working out in the yard in the summer.
They suck for thorns, they suck for mosquitoes,
but man, dude, they are so much cooler to wear.
You should try them out.
I do get the impression that they're kind of a, they're a very specialized thing.
And no, Stuart, we're not starting over.
Not happening.
So, let's see here.
Will's Great keeps working even when wet.
I will say this much, since we're in that vein of, like, clothing.
Quite a number of years ago, I was advised by a person who knows.
infinitely more than I do about like long range hiking and general outdoorsy stuff than I do and
I spend a fair amount of I like to go outdoors but this guy put me to shame and he advised
that I spend an absolutely gratuitous amount of money on real wool hiking socks smart wool
was what he recommended I like darn and and before I bought up my first couple pairs of
those, which thankfully they were on sale, because they were like $22 a pair on sale.
All I'd ever worn was like, you know, cotton socks.
And I just kind of took it for granted that your feet were going to smell like death.
And, you know, you're going to change your socks like once or twice a day because they get soaked through with sweat and everything.
I just kind of took that for granted.
And he convinced me to give it a try.
So I bought three pairs.
And I have never ever worn cotton socks a day since with my hiking boots.
period in discussion infinite like your feet don't stink they don't sweat as much it doesn't hold
the moisture up against your skin it wicks it way better it it turns the act of being in hiking
boots for like 12 to 16 hours into something that's much more pleasurable and when you go
to sleep at night if you're if you let's say you're rugged hiking rugged camping and like you
don't shower every night when you get into the bed and you take those socks off
everyone else in the teb well thank you
I wear
every day even during the summer
because of my
I have to wear steel-toe boots at work
and
boots are hot
they are
and I
I was under the misconception that wool socks
would make my feet sweat more
they're actually cooler
and more comfortable in the summer
than my cotton socks ever wore
I mean it's not
it's not an unfair assumption
to make because I think we
automatically associate wool with being
warm. Because most of the time you're wearing like
wool outer clothing. Yeah, a wool sweater
like a wool smoking jacket or those fancy dress
jackets. Yeah, but
a couple good pairs of merino wool socks
it truly does
change the entire experience of being
in boots.
Matter of fact, we were at Preper Camp
several years ago and
I think it was called Old Grom
It was a military surplus store.
They had a vendors booth set up there.
And on Sunday around lunchtime, it was like, blow everything out, get rid of everything
because they didn't want to have to bring it home, right?
Right.
You know how that works.
Oh, yeah.
It's every convention or a fishing show or anything like that.
So they had a box of, I think it was four or six packs of wool boot socks.
Like no name brand, but they were, they seemed like they were fairly decent quality.
And I think they were like $10 for four.
pairs or 10 bucks for three pairs.
I don't remember.
I know that I grabbed two, you know, two bundles and checked out.
Everybody, like, literally, everybody that walked in there grabbed a couple.
Because it was just so frigging cheap.
And, I mean, I keep them for backup, backup wool socks.
That makes sense.
Yeah.
The, um, one of the other, one of the things I wanted to bring up, too, was you had that
hurricane where you had the tree come down on your house, Phil.
Mm-hmm.
Any time you guys are in a situation where there could be debris around, there could be, you know, down tree branches, you could be working with heavy tools.
Yes, it is going to be hotter.
You are going to be a little less comfortable, but you should probably put on some heavier clothing.
Even if it means you're going to be a little more dehydrated, you're going to have to drink extra water.
You know, a heavy pair, keep a heavy pair or two of canvas pants, even if you don't normally.
wear them for each of your family
members. Long
sleeve canvas shirt, depending
on your environment, either canvas
or wool or any
of the work shirts. Heck, a good
Dickie's stiff, thick
cotton work shirt will do a pretty good
job of keeping like
branches and stuff from sticking
into good heavy pair of work
gloves. I've really
taken to
Wrangler.
Oh, yeah. So
their ATG pants are pretty good
yeah so I don't have any of the ATGs
I use their um it's I forget
exactly which line but it's one of the lines
of work pants
and at this point I got a closet
full of them like they're
they're comfortable they don't hold moisture
quite as badly as denim will
they're fairly tough they're much more lightweight
like they're just
they're nice enough
that in the slate gray or in
like the khaki color I can
go to work for dress pants yeah
yeah you can pass them you can pass them off for like kind of casual office gear and three
or four pairs for the shirts yeah they're their their ATG shirts they used to have um it was before
they had their ATGs it was a similar long sleeve button down you know eyelids on this on the
shoulders it was a similar plaid shirt and i've got a bunch of those i mean they're just they're
they're comfortable they're durable to me it is always what i always write a fine line of is
i don't like buying expensive things because i wind up screwing them up sure the only the sole
exception of that is boots yes i will spend a boots tires bed yes not so much i i buy as expensive
a bed as i have to for my wife i could sleep on the floor but yes i absolutely refuse
used to skimp on boots because when I put on a pair of boots for a hiking trip I'm going to wear
them until like damn their bedtime that night they better be comfortable oh absolutely I mean
i'm sure everybody's grandfather everybody's got a older family member that's told in this rule
anything that separates you from the ground or slows down or starts up your vehicle or things
you should not scrimp on your batteries your tires your brakes your boots or your bed
even though that's kind of off topic.
I mean,
you think about it like this.
If you go out to your vehicle right now
and you look at,
you measure like how many square inches
of actual tire is touching the pavement
and multiply that by four,
that is all the thing connecting your vehicle to the ground.
And that means every horsepower
and every little tickle of the brakes
has to go through those four tiny little contact patches.
So you can have these,
gigantic huge tires
but that's all
the contact patch you're going to get
absolutely
you know ragel said
that's why his work boots cost
$230 quality cost
man it does just like you said
but you know what
one thing you can do to make those work boots last longer
even though they are expensive
by two pair
and I'll tell you why
you if you alternate
wearing them every other day
this does two things for you
It allows the insoles and the soles of the boots to fully decompress after you've been wearing them for 8 to 12 hours.
And it allows all of the fabric and insulation or the foam or the leather to completely dry back out.
Your boots will last more than twice as long.
I've got two pair of boots.
I picked both of them up in 2019.
I'm thinking I will probably have to replace one of them next year.
now when i was buying just one pair of boots i was getting about two years out of them yeah fortunately my solomons have lasted a good long while but it's because i mean they only really get worn when you're hiking when i'm hiking or if i'm doing like heavy yard work like if i'm chains on stuff i want to have the boots on just because it's the it's the toughest pair of shoes i own well yeah because you what happens if a log rolls on foot well nine times out of ten i'm stomping over yard debris and everything else if i got the chance
chainsaw out so that's that's a thing but yeah i mean extra ankle support can mean a lot yeah and
see here's the thing sturdy outerwear and protective equipment kind of start to bleed together at a
moment like this because like we we've talked about the fact that like you know chainsaw you
ought to have chaps you better have some heavy gloves better have some eye protection and you
better have your helmet and the whole nine yards like every tradesman has just
about safety squints, but please don't joke about safety squints.
No, and, you know, I've even gone to the point of going out of my way to acquire glasses frames,
because I wear glasses pretty much all the time.
I probably don't need to, but I get headaches looking at things far away if I don't wear them.
So it just makes my life a little more comfortable.
I buy the metal framed glasses that are impact rated.
These are, these are anci-rated safety frames with polycarbonate.
impact rated lenses. Yeah, it costs a little more money. But on the off chance that I end up
forgetting to change to my work safety glasses for something, I've still got a little bit better eye
protection on. And I buy glasses about every seven to ten years anyway. I'm pretty sure Raggle is
joking and saying, what are all these things which you speak of? But I'm just going to say something,
but you've only got two eyes and two ears. My ears are already shot. My eyes are still
holding up relatively well so you know you you see a lot of guys that that they're like ah you know you
don't need to wear safety glasses right up until they have to have a piece of steel pulled out of their
eye at the optometheus office because you can't anesthetize that and you get to watch the entire
time they're doing it i've never had to have like a splinter pulled out of my eye but i will admit
I've there's been a time or two where like even though I was wearing safety glasses I've had like a stream of sawdust or something like sneak in around and I end up with scratch cornea and that whole thing like I just I will always be a stickler for safety gear because as careful as I try to be there have been times where that safety gear has been the only thing saving me from an emergency room visit oh absolutely it is it happens faster than you're you're
than people think, especially if people are not used to operating power tools.
Yeah, and I would almost argue it happens more when you are used to operating them because you get complacent eventually.
Oh, you absolutely can get complacent.
I mean, we've, we've all seen the Leith video, right, where the dude took the ride.
I promise you, that wasn't his first day standing in front of that thing.
I would like to hope not, because if it was,
where was the trainer
yeah well my suspicion is he probably leaned over that thing a handful of times got away with it until he didn't
yeah and i have had to have that exact talk with a couple of much more senior machinists than myself
even at my own company like hey guy
you could die and i really don't want to clean you off the ceiling
so
Jeff, safety glasses are the only thing I've never gotten lazy about me too.
As you shouldn't.
You've only got two wise.
You know, I had the great fortune to learn at the expense of some of my family members
who injured themselves fairly regularly when I was a young child, usually within sight of me.
So I kind of got impressed upon me fairly early that these things are not optional.
so um you know aside from the normal protective equipment uh like a safety glasses uh ear protection
even like your electronic shooting ear protection is better than nothing um let's see what was
the you know the mesh helmets that they have for uh chainsaw and fill that just really
keep the dust out mm-hmm they make polycarbonate full face shield ones that you can get that
are about the same price.
I think that's actually a better buy
for somebody that's going to be doing
a lot of general work
because it's more applicable to
other tools as well. You can't use the
chainsaw one if you're running an angle grinder.
The particulate matter that's coming off it
is too fine.
And it's going to get right through
that mesh. Because that mesh
on the chainsaw ones is really only meant
to stop large wood shavings.
Yeah, I mean, it's meant to stop chips,
not sawdust.
Right. Right.
Although, in that case, I would argue that...
You're supposed to wear safety glasses under that.
I do.
Yeah.
But I would almost argue that, like, if you're getting a faceful of sawdust,
you're probably using your chains on incorrectly,
because I can't speak for everybody else,
but it didn't take me very long to realize,
if I do this, the sawdust goes that direction.
All it takes is a wind gust.
Yeah, but it's still the difference between, like,
a cloud of sawdust and, like, a steady stream coming.
coming off the bar.
Oh, sure.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
But since we're talking about protective equipment, you know I love to throw people
curveballs.
Flashlight.
Flashlight, because guess what?
My wife and I, we try to go out walk several times a week to fight the battle the
of the bulge, me more than her, because she's lost a good chunk of weight.
And I lost a bit and then stopped because daylight savings time and, you know, it getting
dark at like 4.45 in the afternoon
kind of screwed me up.
But this is now protective
equipment because when we go out walking, this
is to make sure that if there's
a car, they just got off of work and
has come through the neighborhood, they can see us.
So things like
reflective devices, lights,
quickly become
protective equipment because getting run over by
a 4,000 pound card doesn't sound like
a vibe. No, absolutely
not. I've been hit by a car
before in it. One, surprisingly
well for me. I would not
like to repeat it because I don't
think it will go that well the next time.
So what you're saying is, just
because you rolled the dice and didn't come out, snake eyes,
doesn't mean you want to keep rolling them.
God no. God know.
Cars are bigger than me, and much stronger,
usually.
But, you never know.
Yeah, flashlights
are a great piece of protective equipment because if you can't
see, you're far
more likely to injure yourself.
I mean, it's...
Mm-hmm.
It sounds kind of basic, but, I mean, everybody's got the cell phone.
We bring this up all the time.
Flash on their halfway decent flashlight.
Use it.
Yeah.
Oh, here's the thing.
Do you keep a raincoat in your vehicle?
Yeah.
Poncho.
Shitty poncho, but a poncho.
Doesn't matter.
It can be a crappy $5 Walmart poncho.
But not getting your clothing soaking wet is definitely going to improve your comfort.
your comfort if nothing else yeah but to me that just goes along with like that goes along with
everything else it's like you should be you should have the proper clothing for the environment you're
in and if that environment happens to be wet like it is down here 370 days out of the year
then you should probably be able to account for that yeah absolutely I don't do it anymore but
you know there was a time when I kept literally a pair of shrimp boots in the truck at all times
that's probably not a terrible idea down where you are for how often you guys get flood waters
yeah the problem is if the water gets above the uh the top of the shrimp boo now you have a new
problem to deal with well yeah your boot fills full of water yeah yeah ragger brings up a good one
blanket keep a blanket in your car especially if you're up north by me it's an excellent idea
I usually keep an extra jacket in my car for layering.
I need to get better about keeping a spare change of clothes in my car,
but that's more of a work hazard thing.
So I don't actually keep like a jacket or a coat or anything in my truck year round
because for like 10 and a half months out of the year,
it's kind of a superfluous exercise.
I mean, we have days in the summer where it can be 60 degrees and 3.4.
50 mile an hour winds, that can get kind of chilling, even in the summer.
So, no, Jeff, I don't have truck waiters, but that's mostly because I just, I'm not in that
environment where that's, I'm not in the environment anymore these days where that comes up
often enough to merit it. My wife, on the other hand, does keep rainboot in her vehicle at all
times because she has to work car line, which means escorting little urchins out to their
vehicles sometimes when it's pouring down raining yeah there's my wife once it starts snowing
she keeps all of her winter gear in the car yeah never knows when she could be called the sub
sub for one of the teachers so well and that that's what i was going to say earlier like
i most of the year i don't keep a coat in the truck there is a now you okay you've been to this
part of the country once or twice in your life i'm sure
And you know that, okay, northern or southern?
Where's Disney?
My parents decided to take us to Disney at one point.
I mean, it's on the border.
But anyway.
Yeah.
So it is worth pointing out that, like, there is a portion of the year down here where it is pretty freaking cold early in the morning.
Sure.
But by, like, eight, nine o'clock, it's, you know, warmed up.
and it's like shorts and short sleeve, you know, shirt weather.
Yeah.
And we have that weird, that weird transitionary period for a couple of weeks on either side of winter.
And those are the times when even though I could just run out to the truck,
tough it out, jump in, turn the heater on, and I don't need to bring a coat with me everywhere I go.
I still take a coat and throw it in the truck and then bring it back in that evening because in my mind,
it is always the question of like, okay, let's say today's the day I have to change a
change a spare on the side of the road. Would I rather do that freezing my butt off at 40
degrees? Or would I rather have a nice, nice warm coat?
It's always, everything is always easier when you're comfortable.
Yeah. Stuart, Stewart's, so for, for the sake of full disclosure,
like Stewart is it, I think almost exactly the same latitude I am over in Texas.
exact same weather there's the i i don't know if i would say it's like two weeks exactly but like
there is there is this weird little transitionary period where it definitely feels like winter
in the morning but it definitely feels like fall in the afternoon so up where i'm at we have this
interesting thing that we like to call uh second fall third winter first second or third summer
oh finter or wall yeah basically what we'll get is starting in i
October, we will get wild fluctuations from down into the 30s to sometimes as high as 80.
That's uncalled for.
Occasionally in the same week, sometimes in the same day.
I have had days where it snowed overnight and it was 80 degrees when I left work at 3 p.m.
It was dumb.
It is extra dumb.
it sounds pretty dumb to be honest nick it is it is it's just the consequence of living in the hell
that is illinois but for that reason i keep like a i don't know what the hell you call it's one
those zip-up fleeces that's not really windproof and it's not really a sweatshirt weight it's
kind of in between sounds kind of like a cardigan almost i don't know man it's it's like a
you know north face made them really popular back in the two thousand's
I know exactly what you're talking about.
You know exactly what I'm talking about, where it's kind of got that nylon front to it and a lot of it,
and then the rest of it's that fluffy kind of fleece material.
Those things are fantastic for layering when you, number one, didn't bring enough jacket.
Or number two, your wife didn't bring enough jacket.
Also a thing, yes.
Yeah.
You know, I like to keep one of those in my car because I can take pretty much whatever jacket I've worn.
If I throw that thing under or over it,
you can take it down into the 30s and most jackets will be okay
as long as you have something that breaks the wind and then that extra insulation.
Yeah.
So before we start walking this one out, spares.
We already talked about spare shoes.
And like in the name of full disclosure, like,
I have a formula for how much underwear and socks and undershirt I pack for anywhere I'm going.
for anywhere I'm going.
It's the number of days I expect to go
times 150%.
Yep.
If I expect to be someplace for four days,
I'm bringing six days worth of stuff.
200% for socks, is my word.
That's,
there's no wrong answer here except to not have enough.
But I'm going to tell you that I would much prefer
have to like,
you know,
recycle a pair of pants several times than go with,
or listen,
I'd rather ditch underwear completely than go without socks.
Yep.
Or have your dirty, nasty, sweaty socks.
Well, that's one nice thing about wool socks, though, man.
If you take, and I have tried this a couple of times just for the sake of trying it,
you take your wool socks that you wore today, throw them up to hang overnight.
Especially if you can get them somewhere exposed to direct sunlight,
the next day you put those back on.
They are not as nice as a fresh-washed pair of wool socks.
No.
but they are functional and they damn sure are a sight better than than previously worn cotton socks
or heaven forbid stroke socks this is all true not debating any of that but i repeat i will
i will suffer i will not pack a lot of things to have extra socks oh absolutely and extra and extra undershirts
i will wear the exact same like outer shirt or flannel or whatever multiple times and just
suck it up but give me give me my extra undershirts and socks absolutely i mean i don't know
what's your edc pistol phil i can't remember um so it's a canic c100 it's a clone of a
cc75 compact how aggressive is the grip texture on it with the with the the grips i have on it now
it's not as aggressive as it used to be put it that way i used to have i used to have grip panels on
there i think they were lock or maybe they were vzig those are pretty aggressive yeah
you've seen the vz grips were like it's almost like individual little pyramids yeah on the grips
i had those nor i've literally developed a callus on the side of my side of me right where it used
to rub i swapped out to uh lock grips with
which are still fairly aggressive, but the texture has a flat face to it, so not as bad.
But if what you're about to ask is, do I have shirts that have holes in them on this side?
Yes.
No, what I was getting to was, so I have M&P 2.0C.
Have you ever felt the grip on one of those?
On what?
What was it?
An M&P 2.0?
Not on M&P.
imagine like 40 grit aluminum oxide sandpaper oh jesus it's it is phenomenal as far as for shooting goes
but if i'm not wearing an undershirt though i had one day where i just it was too hot i was not going to
wear an undershirt when we were on vacation and i didn't i it sanded its way through my skin so
bad it was bleeding in a couple of spots because of how aggressive that grip texture is that was
That's what happens.
Yeah, that was a bit aggressive.
I've toned it back, and it's still that aggressive.
But, you know, the great thing is when you're shooting it,
it doesn't move in your hands at all,
no matter how much you sweat.
Yeah, you just have to, you know, abrade the skin from around the grip
to make it to draw it.
Pretty much, yeah, you do.
But that's what the undershirts are for.
Then you don't have a problem.
And though it does wear a hole in your undershirt eventually.
Yeah.
so what i mean what else do we talk about for spares because so i'll be really honest like i probably
have spares of most things in my in my wardrobe but not necessarily do i like carry with me like
if i bring a jacket i'm bringing a jacket i ain't bringing like spare jacket you know what i'm saying
yeah i can understand that for for heavy outerware absolutely i'm talking my thought in spares was
do you have a second pair of work gloves in the different weights that you like?
I mean, I've got one pair.
I've got two pairs of heavy, heavy work gloves and then like, I think three or maybe four pairs of mechanics because those things are basically disposable.
Yeah, you wear through the fingers on those pretty fast.
I try to keep one brand new pair of each of the gloves that I like.
So I've got a pair of the mechanics fast fits that I am currently abusing to death.
I've got a brand new pair
still on the hangar
I've got a pair of leather work gloves
from when I'm working with timber or thorny shit
or any crap that's on fire
because leather gloves just seem to handle being slightly on fire
better than synthetics
110%
Yeah
And then I've got
usually a pair spare
Of each of the insulated gloves I like
Because I've got like a two pair of fingerless gloves
that I wear when we do hiking and stuff like that.
A couple pair of just the thin wool
like pullover gloves that...
You remember those gloves everybody had when they were a kid
that was... They were the cotton gloves that were definitely not waterproof.
They were just kind of elasticy.
The stretchy cotton gloves
that everybody's parents always bought them in your hands froze at recess.
They make those out of wool now,
and those are fantastic.
I've got two pairs of each of those
of fingerless and finger gloves, and they are phenomenal.
nominal for keeping your hands warm, but still being able to do things with them.
Ooh, I've got one for you, and I actually am delinquent in this and need to fix that.
Boot laces.
Oh, yeah.
I keep a spare pair of boot laces in my truck.
I keep a spare pair in my toolbox at work, and then usually one right above my boots in the closet.
Yeah, I need to make a break when you're somewhere else.
I need to make a point of, like, getting a couple of extra pairs.
and just, like, stash in a way someplace.
Even if they don't go, like, on a camping trip, whatever,
because, like, let's face it, we've all done that thing
where you unlace your, your, your laces,
and then you tie back together.
But, like, for me, I always make a point of, like,
I like to have things here at the house to fix problems.
That way, when I find the problem, I don't have,
I'm not obligated, like, oh, I got to go right out to the stores.
Like, no, I'll just fix it here.
And then I'll replenish that thing.
you know, a piece of
pericord will do for a bootlace
in the near term, but they don't stay tied
as well. They really don't.
As a regular boot lace.
Especially like the
texture thing, yeah.
Yeah, it's a texture thing. I mean,
550 cord's good for a lot of things, but
you better double and triple knot them damn things
and they're still not going to stay tied.
Regular is correct. Melted boot laces suck.
They do.
I do a bit of welding.
and at work now and then
and the hot steel chips will melt right through
your bootlaces too so
spare bootlaces are always good
Jeff is correct 550 cord
does stretch
which is a potential bad
for laces
but most of my bootlaces
I've ever had also stretch
you know I've not
even like the old leather
boot laces
which my grandfather swore by as a
welder, those still stretched as you wore it through the day.
I've always wondered how much of that was the laces stretching and how much of that was
like your foot, like swelling and retaining water and shrinking and so on and so forth.
Well, I know that when I buy a brand new pair of boot laces,
usually what I'll do is I'll take off my old ones before they're totally thrashed and
break. And if you hold them up next to each other, your 72 inch boot lace new and your
72 inch boot lace that was on your boot, they are not the same 72 inches any. The older
ones have gotten longer. Well, and I, okay, so let me say this. Stretching over time,
I put full stock in that. I'm thinking about, does it stretch an appreciable amount throughout
a day? I can't imagine it wouldn't. At the very least,
I don't know.
You are applying tension to it.
Yes.
So.
But it's a question, okay, full nerd.
It's a question of elastic stretch or what is it called plastic deformation?
In other words, like, if it stretches but it's still elastic, then yeah, it stretches, but it tensions itself back up versus it stretches and stays there.
And then you feel the need to like unlace.
them, tighten them up, and the retention.
I'm like, I don't know.
I had always been told by people that do a lot of, like, through hiking and everything,
that, like, your foot does change size over throughout the day.
Oh, it absolutely will.
If you, um, one thing you should definitely do if you are hiking and you're not used to
hiking, after about a half hour, untie your boots, retie them.
Because your foot will have swollen.
from being on your feet, not being used to it.
Yeah, slightly off topic, but I'll also say this much.
For anybody who's not used to wearing hiking boots a lot,
do some research into the various ways to tie those,
to lace them.
Huge difference.
I will say that when I first got my solomons,
I laced them up like, just crisscross applesauce,
like I'd always lace boots.
and they were not the most comfortable thing on earth.
They just pinched my foot in weird spots until I saw someone mention like,
hey, you know, what I do is that I cross and then I come straight up and then cross.
It's this weird way of lacing a boot, but after I try to once, it's the only way I'll lace my boots from that one.
So if you feel the top of your foot about halfway back from the knuckle of your big toe to your ankle,
if you feel up that line
there's a bump at that joint
there's actually a joint
kind of in the middle of your foot
kind of like right here
or your foot flexes just a little bit
that's what you're skipping over
is that hump
when you don't cross the laces
on that middle portion of your boot
and that can make a huge difference
depending on your foot shape
and the shape of the boot
which is why I never
I never like recommending
specific boots to people
you need to try them on
You need to see how they fit your feet, because your feet are not my feet.
I've tried Solomon boots.
I fucking hate Solomon boots.
I cannot wear those things for longer than five minutes.
They just kill my arches in my feet.
I will happily admit that there are two kinds of people when it comes to Solomon's.
There are people that try to pair on and hated them every minute of it.
And then there's weirdos like me.
They're like, this is the first pair of boots I've ever tried on that fit right.
Uh-huh.
That's probably why you can't wear red.
wings never tried a set of red wings honestly like everybody i know that likes solomon boots hates
red wings so i tried when i tried these i tried solomons danners and keens did you like the keens
wait no no no no no no not danner solomon kean and merrill oh yeah merrill's a good boot
just didn't fit did nothing fit my foot as well as the solomon
instead. Yeah. Did you like the Keynes? I don't remember anything objectionable about the
Keens, but there wasn't anything remarkable about them to me either. Like, when I put on the
Solomon and I got my weight on them, I was like, oh God. It's something in the, it's something in the,
it's something in the in step, in the arch support. Like, I couldn't tell you what it is,
but there's just something about them. And Raggle, I'll say that, like, I have a weird
shape foot. I have an arch, but I also have a very tall,
end step for no reason I can figure out like the actual the actual dimension between like
the very top of my foot right where it turns north towards the ankle and the floor
just seems to be higher than most so what I run into a lot is I run into boots that like
pinch me right there yeah and I don't get pain on the bottom of my foot I get pain on the top
from the boot like constantly compressing those bones or I get into a situation where I don't have
up our support and then my feet just hurt all day i couldn't tell you why i will just say that
yes for all for for god's sakes please try on a good pair of boots for a minute before you
spend 150 200 on them but i'll just say that like if you like solomons you'll probably be like me
and you'll never buy anything else and if you don't like them no hard feelings they are a
the experience i had trying them on for the first time i can imagine that going in reverse for
anybody who's foot is not shaped the way mine is.
And it's just being the most god-awful boot you've ever.
I didn't even get them laced up before they were uncomfortable.
I had the opposite effect.
Dude, I didn't even get them laced up.
I just popped them on and stood up.
It was like, up, this is it.
Yeah.
But believe it or not, you know, those really shitty,
I think it was Belleville boots that the military was issuing for a long time?
Those fit my feet like they were amazing.
for me. It is the wildest thing. My buddy was in the Air Force. They gave out boots like
candy to those guys. He gave me all of his boots because we had the same size feet and he couldn't
wear them. So every pair of boots I had while I was enlisted, I just had to accept the fact that
my feet were going to hurt for like six weeks. Before I made, before things started to like kind of
give and mold my foot. And that was the problem I had. It was where the laces hit,
right at the very top of my end step,
to the point where the one time I had to go and do an FTX
and a relatively new pair of boots,
I actually went up with a blister right there directly underneath the laces.
Oh, yeah, that's corrected by just alternate lacing on them.
Yeah, but the other problem.
You know, now, that's something that the military probably should have taught you.
Oh, the, dude, the military doesn't give a shit.
They just tell you to suck it up, quit being a crybaby about it.
Yeah, probably.
I mean, maybe.
I was going to say maybe they care of like, you know, your SF or infantry or something like that.
But if you're like me and you were, I was an aircraft mechanic, they just like quit crying.
Just put them on and shut up.
You'll be fine.
You don't need feet.
Just walk around on stumps.
Jeff says you must have exactly average feet then.
Tens?
Men's tens.
I don't know.
It's probably about average for a guy my size.
Who knows?
I couldn't tell you what size my shoes are.
at this point. Yes, Jeff, everything can be fixed with drinking water and changing socks,
which incidentally we recommend. There are very few things that a fresh pair of socks does not
make better. I can think of a few things, but this is a family-friendly show.
That's fair. Although, fresh pair of socks probably wouldn't hurt those things.
Right. I mean, it doesn't make it worse. That's all I'm saying. So why not try a
first pair of sucks.
All right.
Well, I mean, this was your topic, and I have to admit, on the back of, like, as we are approaching winter, and I've been dealing with weird weather lately.
Weird weather.
We've got a polar vortex supposed to be coming down here in the next week or so.
We could get a week of rain, or we could get a blizzard.
Who knows?
well for the last four days we've been getting what they're calling super fog down here
what's a super fog
uh it's fog where your visibility drops down to 20 yards
oh i got on the interstate the other morning and um i was
moderately uncomfortable driving 40 miles an hour huh we had a couple of days up on the lake
this fall that were that way too
yeah i mean i've i've driven in some pretty heavy downpours man like i it's just the old the age old
don't overdrive your headlights don't overdrive the conditions but i'm not going to lie the fog
the fog this the fog this year was it was worse that i think that i i've remembered in previous
years hmm but it's been very very humid but it hasn't been particularly cold in the morning
you know i'm saying like not cold enough to to cause all that to fall
It's been kind of warm-ish and very, very humid.
What you call particularly cold is, what, 50s?
Okay.
I know that that's not cold, but what I'm saying is...
No, I'm asking for, like, a sense of scale here.
I mean, I don't...
Because I was fishing in 30-degree weather this fall already.
No, I'm cuddled up in front of a campfire at 30 degrees.
No, I mean, like...
I was on a boat in pissing...
Pissing rain.
Well, I mean, okay, put it to this way, yesterday morning.
This morning, the low was 64 degrees.
So by no means cold enough to get that fog to like, you know, co-less and you would imagine not.
Yeah, but humidity crazy high for this time of year.
So, yeah, we've been dealing with weird, weird patches of fog.
Yeah, we're seeing a really similar weather pattern up here to what we had.
gosh, 10 or 12 years ago
and we ended up with
not any like crazy blizzards, but
we would have weeks where every single
day we had three to four inches of snow
every day.
So, this could be a very snowy winter.
See, this is not cold.
This is Gulf Coast, man.
Forties is sweater weather.
40s is a sweater weather.
40s is like my wife on the couch under a heavy blanket
telling me to turn the fireplace on weather.
And see, this is why I can't move further south.
She loves snow.
She does.
She wants to go snowy.
Yeah, my wife keeps on telling me that she wants to move further north.
And then she starts thinking about the snow.
It's like, maybe not that far north.
So I don't know where we're going to watch.
Well, you know, if we get a very snowy winter,
you're more than welcome to come visit us
and mess around in the snow a little bit.
I'll teach you how to drift.
It'll be fun. We'll drift some pickups.
I cannot properly explain to you
how little I look forward to snow.
But do you look forward to drifting pickups?
I've done it before.
Exactly. So the snow is worth it
because you get to drift your pickup everywhere.
Yeah, my wife's got a point, though.
When you have
when you've had a foot ripped off,
cold hurts okay when you wear metal-framed glasses like i do and it's negative 30 cold hurts too
there's a certain amount of cold that no matter how healthy you are or how uninjured you are
it's just painful see that's just all the more reason why you should move further south
i see jeff says he'll take you sledding no jeff just try snow jeff lives in hell
and
sledding is fun
no because people sled
in snow
yes
no
can't snowshoe without it
your terms are acceptable
oh dear
besides my wife would rather to go to the beach
and she wears less clothing at the beach
than she does when it's snowing so
that's win win
that is fair
all right
848 at night
we had a couple of stumbles
earlier in this show.
I don't know quite what happened.
It seems like I fixed one technical problem
and slam face first into another.
So we'll see how that worked out.
Yeah, well, all I know is
the editing process is going to be really interesting
on the back of all this.
It should be okay.
The rest of the stream was fairly stable,
so that shouldn't be too bad for you.
First 10 minutes.
Knock on wood, Nick.
Nah, con would.
All right. Matter of fact, it's going to go out the door.
I keep telling you guys, like, you know,
Nix provides some great information about clothing,
but we could just go to like, you know,
combat boots, hockey masks, and spike cod pieces,
and, you know, fully embrace the bad Max vibe when the stuff pops off.
That is always an option.
Leather jackets are always a vibe.
I had a thought, but it's a family-friendly show.
All right.
matter of
fact's going out of the door.
Bye, everybody.
Stay safe.
Stay dressed.
And stay out the weather.
Talk to another week.
Bye.
Good night.
You know,
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