The Prepper Broadcasting Network - Matter of Facts: Nothing to Wear

Episode Date: November 24, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to the Matterfax podcast on the Prepper Broadcasting Network. We talk prepping guns and politics every week on iTunes, Stitcher, and Spotify. Go check out our content at MOFpodcast.com on Facebook or Instagram. You can support us via Patreon or by checking out our affiliate partners. I'm your host Phil Ravley, Andrew and Nick are on the other side of the mic, and here's your show. Okay, so this time I set up all the streams to be horizontal. So for everybody that had to suffer through last week when things were a little wonky, you're welcome. However, my laptop is being a little bit grumpy tonight.
Starting point is 00:00:43 So we might have to like say an omen to the machine guides to appease the omnisize. So that way he'll allow the stream to happen. Quite possibly. Yeah. But let's see here. In the chat, I see Rangel, who I got. to hang out with last weekend. I was glad he made the trip over to come and see me and my wife and my daughter.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Let's see Dr. Scary Guy. And I think I saw Jeff in here. Yep. Yep. Jeff's in. Nice. That's good. All right. So welcome back to Matterfax podcast, the least professional podcast you could possibly listen to.
Starting point is 00:01:23 I mean, I'm sure there's one out there with like drunken morons on it, but that's us half the time. so I'm hydrating today instead of dehydrating I mean does what does coffee count as there's water in it I'm going to go with that see I have this argument why I've constantly that coffee counts as water because it's mostly water so does beer at that point well if we want to get really dark I mean cannibalism also counts because aren't human beings like 93% water protein about 90 70 Or is that the earth 70% water, the surface of the earth?
Starting point is 00:02:02 Humans are a certain amount water. I don't know. I did. I didn't come prepared for a serious conversation. Well, I don't know that your computer came prepared for any conversation today based on the cutting out
Starting point is 00:02:22 we're getting for a meal. I think I lost... Nope. We lost you. Unless my internet's cutting out. Looks fine from my end. Hmm. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:02:44 I'm getting a text from Phil. Well, it looks like Phil might have to reboot, so I will attempt to fail at doing the basic work. All right. Thank you to the patrons. sponsor in the show. Really appreciate it. Yep, Phil definitely did just cut out. Let's see if we can't guilt trip
Starting point is 00:03:03 Phil into letting me send him a variety of computer parts on the Patreon chat, see if we can't upgrade his system there. Unless it was his internet, in which case, I can't fix that. All right. Speaking of the patrons, deadline for the Secret Santa's November
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Starting point is 00:03:39 I'm not currently wearing one because it is in the laundry. Phil and Gillian, some of you guys got to meet at the Cypress Survivorless event last weekend. When Phil comes back, we're probably going to talk about that for a little bit. And then because Phil is terrible at capitalism, I force him to talk about the MOF code at disaster coffee.com. I cannot remember the percentage off. This is normally Phil's job. So now that we did the admin work, and Phil's not here to stop me, we've got to see if we can't have some of you guys bother Andrew to see if we can get him back on for maybe a Christmas episode. I don't know, we could probably figure something out.
Starting point is 00:04:30 According to Jeff, Andrew is on a secret mission to hand count every narco boat in Venezuela. That is going to take a shorter and shorter time, given how much those are often being destroyed. Yeah. So, you guys in the comments, have you been watching the news lately following what's going on with that bill? shoot, what was that? I can't remember the end of the bill. To release the Epstein client list. Do you guys actually think we're going to see anything valuable come out of that?
Starting point is 00:05:01 I mean, do you really think we're going to get anybody convicted based on this stuff? Or do you think it's all just going to be a wash? Let me know what you think. I don't know. Rago says 5%. You mean 5% chance of anybody getting convicted or we'll see maybe 5% of what they've got? don't know so
Starting point is 00:05:25 a couple of the other things we're going to talk about today um bill just got back from the camping trip with cypress survival so we're going to talk post he calls it post deployment checks as well as pre-deployment checks
Starting point is 00:05:40 think what he's talking about is like your what is your checklist for you know before you go on a trip and then what do you check as soon as you get home Now, I'll see we've got here. Makojo says
Starting point is 00:06:00 nothing's really going to happen. I'm with you, bud. Jeff, they're done redacting anything useful. Entirely, probably. Kyle, are one of our favorite feds. 100% they won't do shit. I do not trust the DOJ. I don't think most of us do at this point.
Starting point is 00:06:18 I think it's probably. gosh, you know, it used to be seen as one of the more trustworthy federal organizations, but I think at this point it's kind of getting to be where it's one of the least trusted. I mean, I certainly don't count on them to do their job. Jeff, that's why they're actually, they actually poked their release at this time. That's entirely possible it took them that long to do it. Personally, I was leaning on the side of the DNC was trying to go through it and hold it all back for, let's say, political gains during an election cycle if they needed it. And then Trump was holding on to it to try and sway the midterms.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Don't know. Looks like Phil sounds way back in. Does it fix? We'll see in a minute or two. For reasons, I can't explain. Every time I try to boot this up in Chrome, it goes berserk. Really? Yeah, and Chrome's what I've been using on Stream Yard for a very, very long time.
Starting point is 00:07:28 What are I using? I don't know. I'm currently using Microsoft Edge. Weird. I just know this is going to be unpleasant to edit. That's fine. I covered your admin work. I just can't remember what the discount code percentage was for MOF.
Starting point is 00:07:48 offy. No, I remember the name of the discount code, but I couldn't remember what percent off it was. A couple percent off, I think. I'm a little discombobulated at this point. I'm not sure what Tom Fuller is going on, but I might have to do some testing tomorrow. Yeah. And no, Edge is the devil. Edge is the worst browser.
Starting point is 00:08:11 I would rather like 19, I'd rather like 2001 Internet Explorer than Edge. Yeah, I think the only reason I'm using Edge is because I threw this computer together in like a half hour out of cobbled together spare parts. The OS booted on the first shot, and I've not messed with it since we started doing these shows from my basement. Yeah. Anyway, thank you. Firefox is better. Thank you for, well, and I'm using Firefox now. But I use Chrome because for years, Chrome was a, Chrome played a little bit nicer with Street.
Starting point is 00:08:47 streaming platforms and like microphone and camera access Firefox was always just a little persnickety about it but it's working so we'll go with it yeah well I think that's largely because Firefox has a
Starting point is 00:09:01 smaller development team so if you've got like a weird off brand driver you're going to see more conflicts with Firefox than with Google because most people are going to want to play nice with the Google infrastructure anyway thanks for covering the admin work let's get to
Starting point is 00:09:16 the mini topic before we get to the big one. So are post-deployment checks as important as pre-deployment? Now, let me walk you through this. Nick, whether we're talking about like a range day, a camping trip, a vacation, or whatever, I'm sure you kind of have like the checklist you go through. Oh, absolutely. You pack your stuff. You make sure your stuff is serviceable.
Starting point is 00:09:41 You make sure you have everything you need. You plan for all eventualities. You make sure you have fuel. you make sure you have oil, you make sure your tire pressures are good. Like, you do certain things before you take the trip to try to make the trip. Oh, absolutely. You make sure you're stocked up on your, on your whole patch kit for your tires, make sure your air compressor and your car works, all those, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:03 the little things that day to day, if you were to run out, you know, between here and work, which for me is like eight miles, whoopty fucking do. You know, 45 miles for me. Right. So for you, a little more critical. That's a bitch of a walk. Eight miles for me, it's like, great. It's going to be, you know, uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:10:26 That's about it. Yeah. So the reason I bring all this up is that because, like, you know, last weekend I took the family out camping and because it was kind of a psychotic week at work, like it's been a psychotic year at work, normally I take a day off before the camping trip and a day off afterwards to like, you know, juge at work. everything. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:10:47 And in this case, I happened to be off the day before we, the day we left. But that really just meant that like when I woke up that morning, it was go, go, go, go, go, you know, drop pie profit school. Gillian was off, thankfully. So we spent a little bit of time hanging out here at the house. But then like we started packing. But the most pre-flight checks I really had to do was the day before we left, I had this entire desk filled with stuff that. I was getting basically checked for fresh charge. Sure.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Like I make a point of keeping all my battery powered appliances at about 80 to 100%. Like 80% charge state is better for lithium ion. But I top everything off to 100 before I go out, you know, before we go out camping. Yeah. But it almost took longer to do the post-deployment check when we got home because then it was unload the truck, put most of the stuff back. there back on the shelves. Right. Those shelves get very bare for a camping trip because it all comes out and goes on the truck.
Starting point is 00:11:54 I ended up having to do, I think, six loads of laundry. That makes sense. Because we had to do a load of clothes, load of towels. Then we wound up, we wound up washing clothes from one of the bathrooms because that, that laundry bag was full. And then three sleeping bags. You can't wash them. You know, you got to wash those one at a time.
Starting point is 00:12:15 They're so heavy. And then in the process of doing the wash, side note, I broke my clothes washer and had to repair it. That was fun. Hmm. Whirlpool problems. Yeah. Well, you know, that's any appliance if you use it heavily enough, especially with big stuff like sleeping bags. Because depending on what you have for a sleeping bag, that thing will take on a shitload of weight in water.
Starting point is 00:12:38 So me and my wife uses like a commercial civilian. I don't know what the name for it is. You know how most bags are like mummy bags Where they're kind of like tied at the toebox Killing cannot sleep like that at all She has to starfish out So she has like a sleeping bag shaped like a postage stamp Oh yeah the old the old school ones
Starting point is 00:12:59 Yeah well this one's even wider than that Like she actually told me that One of the couples bags? It's not a couple's bag It's I mean maybe if you're a couple That's much smaller than I am Well but you're not fitting me and my wife in there Without a fight
Starting point is 00:13:14 but it's a bag that's big and comfortable for like her to sleep in but my wife my daughter and I both use the old military sleeping systems yeah the MMS yeah so it takes on a lot of water weight too they do and then I don't dare dry them because I know better
Starting point is 00:13:33 so after they come out of the washer I throw them in the dryer on just air tumble for like 20 minutes to try to get all the water out and then I hang them up to dry yeah but um time since I've actually washed one of my sleeping bags.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Yeah. You're not supposed to wash them every single trip if you can help it. No, it's been a couple of years. We use ours like two to three times a year at most. It's like every few years I'll do it, but they really don't get that dirty. Because a lot of the times we meet my wife camp, we try to do it in the cooler weather. So it's not like you're sweating in them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:08 But come time to actually like, you know, before we could put all this stuff away, I had to start charging those things again. And that was an eight-hour job to get every single thing up to 80% or 100% charge. Like the Jackarie charge is fairly fairly quickly off the wall socket. So that didn't take too, too long. I realized when we got home, we'd been running one of the Beofang radios basically as a weather radio. And another one, I think the one I get it to my daughter, probably got left on. And so it was dead as a doornail when we came home.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Like I realized that when I plugged in and charged and immediately lit up. And I was like, oh, you got left on. That's unfortunate. And then we had two little puck lights, a lantern, the battery powered fan, which we used kind of like in the gear loft for white noise and everything and circulate the air in the tent. That can help a lot. It can. But it was an eight-hour job to get all that stuff recharge for it could all get put away. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:11 plus the laundry plus putting all the stuff away and i got to thinking to myself i'm like you know part of the reason why it was so fast for us to get our stuff into the truck in the first place was because like putting everything on a charger just that evening like make sure it was topped off that took an hour and a half two hours yeah almost everything was stored already fully charged or close to it um everything was already really packed like the a lot of my big tough boxes, they stay packed with all the stuff that we know we're going to want for a camping trip. So it's not like I'm having to like find this, buy this. It's already in the box.
Starting point is 00:15:51 And if it's not in the box, we replenish it before we put the box away. So it makes a lot of sense. So it got me thinking about this idea that like it's the post deployment checks that make the pre-deployment checks faster and simpler. Absolutely. It's kind of like the reason why to this day, like every. fireman in this house stays loaded at all times. They all stay secure, but they all stay loaded because I don't want to hear glass break in the middle of the night and have to figure out which gun has a magazine in it. The answer is yes. If I pick it up, it is condition three or cruiser ready.
Starting point is 00:16:30 It is ready to start rocking and rolling. If I pick up a radio in this house, it's ready to turn on and start doing work. It's already programmed. It's already charged. It's ready to go. If I grab, that's those sleeping bags. If I grab like one of the bundles of sleeping bags, I know I've got a cold weather and a warm weather bag in there. I've got the Gortex. I've got everything I need in there. I'm ready to go. And that's kind of the way, whether it's
Starting point is 00:16:53 camping stuff or prepared and stuff, that's the way everything is set up. It is stored ready to use. So I kind of make that argument that the reason why I can grab anything off the shelf and just trust it's going to work is because when I get home, I don't
Starting point is 00:17:09 just throw it up against a wall and then you know, abandon it. I take the time to clean it, recharge it, recondition it, replenish it, whatever's needed, and then it goes into storage. But it goes into storage, ready to do work if it's called upon. That makes a lot of sense. I mean, a lot of what I do for post checks is a lot of our trips are vehicle-based road trips. We don't really fly anywhere. And we like to bring our dog with us as much as we can because she does not handle being left with other people very well
Starting point is 00:17:44 she's very high stress little dog she's a rescue she's a rescue and it takes her a very long time to warm up to new people especially if me or my wife are not there so we take our personal vehicles to a lot of places well so when we get back
Starting point is 00:18:00 usually what we do is everything comes in everything goes down to the basement onto the game tables we have a couple big gaming table set up for wargaming or D&D magic gathering stuff like that down in our basement actually just on the other side of the wall for me here all of it gets all laid out except for the laundry
Starting point is 00:18:19 laundry just goes immediately into the wash that's easy to do not a problem but I usually don't do the post deployment checks as you call on them the day we get back because exhaust it but what I do over the next week is I will go through every single thing we took with us, check the state of repair it's in,
Starting point is 00:18:43 any charges, anything that's got disposable batteries in it, like a lot of our camp had lamps, they use AAAs. I got a sister with a connection that gets this really cheap, high-quality AAA batteries, so we use a lot of disposables for those. All the batteries get pulled out because we might not use that stuff again for three to six months. And so what I'll do then is I put those batteries in a separate little plastic battery container so that if the batteries do go bad in the meantime, great, I can clean that container out. It hasn't destroyed the electronic device. Then we don't get parasitic discharge, draining the battery out, just sitting in the thing. You know, check your, check your tire pressure, check your fluid levels
Starting point is 00:19:30 in the vehicles. Verify, you know, your mileage. on your vehicle, make sure you're not gone over your mileage for oil changes and stuff like that. Take a look at your brakes. Take a look at your belts, wipers, anything like that on your vehicle is a lot of what I go over. Because a lot of the stuff we take with us is stuff we also use in everyday life. I mean, we have our camping boxes that we use. I've got a, I think it's a box for 100 millimeter rockets. It's a British 100 millimeter big metal rocket box, old military surplus thing I picked up somewhere. That thing will fit
Starting point is 00:20:10 a Coleman stove, several of the little green refillable propane cylinders, most of the cooking utensils we need, and it's all right there. So if we ever have whenever we have like that ice storm that I've mentioned on here before, I can grab that,
Starting point is 00:20:26 take it into the garage or take it up into my kitchen, and I have everything I need to start cooking right there in that box. It all goes right back in there. Kyle, be prepared to have stuff bust your windshield in Indiana. Yes. What's going on in Indiana?
Starting point is 00:20:45 Kyle and his family caught that lug nut off a semi to the windshield on their own. Oh, Jesus, yes. That almost came through their windshield. That was a nasty hit. Yeah. Yeah. To Raggle's point, yeah, we wound up leaving Saturday. Not that we couldn't have, because, like, we were originally planning on coming home Sunday.
Starting point is 00:21:06 11 noonish and I could have got everything done that afternoon if I needed to but um you know for us it was more just fact that like he'd come out to see us on Saturday my parents spent some spent a couple hours with us hanging out around the campfire and you know after that it was kind of like okay there's we're literally doing nothing else here except sleeping in a tent one more night or we can pack it up and we could shower and be in our beds tonight so you know those are the decisions you can make when you're only camping like 45 minutes away from home. Absolutely. A little bit of a different situation if you're in a group
Starting point is 00:21:42 and you're like, you know, eight hours from home. That's very true. But yeah. That was, I mean, that was just kind of the thing I was thinking about. Like, to me, like, I'm very upfront about the fact that like most of this camping stuff or preparedness stuff, it's hurricane stuff. Like, those radios are there that way,
Starting point is 00:22:05 If the cell towers get knocked out, I can still have comms with my wife around the neighborhood. There's a radio in the truck so that I can push out like a mile, mile and a half of Neby and still talk to her here at the house. The man packs there so that we have comms over a longer range of Neby. If she's here at the house and I have to be in the truck, you know, halfway across town. The kitchen box is there to cook outside. The lantern's there for light. The jackery's there to provide power. Like everything in here that we take camping is ostent.
Starting point is 00:22:35 ostensibly a soft test for all those systems to make sure they still work so that the next time the lights go out we're not caught flat-footed and so you stay proficient with them i mean it's there is a difference between cooking on a camp stove and cooking on your regular range there always is yes i can smoke cigars while cooking on my range outside you could also smoke cigars if you have an overhead exhaust head like i do my wife would tolerate zero Zero percent of that idea, Nick, but nice try. Yeah, mine probably wouldn't like it either. But you can do it because we have an overhead exhausted that actually vents outside. So, technically. I cannot because my wife has a very strong right arm, and I have cast iron within grabbing range. That's a dangerous business, man. You really got to lock that dangerous weapons away.
Starting point is 00:23:27 I mean, I'm married, I was going to say, like, sexual revolution, second wave feminist. you can't lock the dangerous weapons away anymore people people scream and yell about it well that's fair oh you were talking with the cast iron not the wife i was more worried about the cast iron yeah i was worried about the dangerous thing that might stove my head in we like that a little bit of it's fun and cheeky all right main topic nothing to wear because yes as much as my plan has always been to wait until the SHTF pops off, and then it's like combat boots, hockey mask, and spike codpiece, I'm 99% sure that that bold plan is not going to totally pan out, and I might actually need to wear something approximating clothing for at least a while.
Starting point is 00:24:23 I mean, clothing, as much as we are legally required to wear it, which, to be fair, we are legally required to wear it is the bare minimum of PPE personal protective equipment that you can have and you know if you're in a situation where things are out of normal
Starting point is 00:24:44 having that PPE can be a serious advantage for you because the last thing you need is to slice open your leg on something stupid or slice open your foot on something stupid and now you're less mobile and you have a potentially
Starting point is 00:25:01 the infected wound. Yep. Or you get exposed. I mean, down here, how half the reason I continue to tell everybody I wear long sleeves year round when I'm out in the woods is mosquitoes and ticks and all sorts of other little biting creatures. I mean... Well, you're closer to the equator. So sunstroke, heat stroke, and sunburn is a serious concern.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Yeah. And for those of you who think to yourself, like, you know, you know, you. You got to bear in mind, like, you think about people that live in deserts. Think like Bedouins, if you think like, you know, some of the older, more traditional tribal people in the Middle East. Like, they, we refer to them as man jammies, but they're literally covered almost from head to toe. And that's literally to keep the sun off of them. Because if once you have a sunburn develop, you're going to dehydrate at an astronomically faster rate. Oh my gosh, yes.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Like, the idea that I'm trying to be cool and comfortable flies out the window compared to I have to keep. the angry Super Mario's son from cooking me alive. Doc brings up a good pen of bramble bushes all over. Dude, my property is just ringed with raspberry bushes, which delicious, giant pain in the ass to walk through. This entire woodline over here next to me is a constant exercise. Every time I mow it, I have to get the weed eater or the machete or something and cut back all the thorns that are trying to poke out of it.
Starting point is 00:26:31 And sooner or later, I will wind up having to get out there and do something really ignorant, like get the axe or the chainsaw and like genuinely like try to bushhawk some of that crap out. Like most of the time, I say if you stay on that side of the woodline, I leave you alone. And if it starts swinging out this direction, then I'll cut it. But sooner or later, I'm going to have to, huh? You need a corn knife. I mean, I've literally got a couple of like full, full size machetes in the garage. so that'll do all right corn knife works better on wippy stuff it's somewhat serrated it's like a handheld sickle it's more serrated it tends to cut stuff down easier even though i wouldn't say
Starting point is 00:27:12 it's the preferred method honestly i want to be using the weed or a lot yeah it does i mean it freaks people out a little bit when you're like whipping it around head high but it does do the job my neighbor has a type of flowering vine that is invasive and I don't want it getting into my yard because it will kill my nice hardwood trees. So I will walk down her fence line at six feet high and just buzz the whole side of it off. You're not supposed to have it planted in this state because it's invasive. So as far as I'm concerned, it can go. Not that I would, hmm.
Starting point is 00:27:54 In Minecraft, you should look into some herbicide. Uh, my, speaking of herbicides in Minecraft, my grandfather, uh, acquired a particular herbicide that is no longer legal to manufacture or apply. It sounds spicy. It, we made the mistake of using it to kill some multiflora rosa. And if you're familiar with that stuff, Phil, it's, it's, it's horribly tenacious. You usually have to dig the roots out to get rid of it. And if you miss a root, it comes back. This stuff turned the soil gray.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Let me sing you the song of my people. We had a little cluster of banana trees growing in my childhood home in the backyard. Now, if anybody here has never played with banana trees, those things were invented by Satan, and they are more tenacious than herpes. We chopped them down to the ground. They sprung right back up out of the stumps. We dug up the root balls. They came back up out of the soil. These things do not know how to die.
Starting point is 00:29:01 They are more, I mean, they're harder to kill than venereal diseases. But I have it on good authority in Minecraft that if you happen to know some of the commercial herbicide license, they can take some stuff that's supposed to be mixed 100 to 1 with water and pour it onto the stump undiluted. Yep. And nothing will grow within two feet of that stump for about five years. Mm-hmm. Yeah, there's... Fraggle.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Chicken trees. I don't know it by that name, but my wife would probably be like, my wife would probably come in and he busts the door down like the Kool-A ban and start speaking Latin and telling you about where it grows and where it's native to and all that stuff. I literally tell my wife every time she's like, hey, cut that, but don't cut that. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. You direct me exactly what you want to do because it all looks like weeds to me. It all looks the same. Well, when you don't know, you don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Yeah. It's a Japanese something or the other. Okay, I'll ask Mrs. Matter of Facts about, hey, is there? I'm sure it is. Dude, there's so much invasive species down here because it all comes up from the Port of New Orleans and everything. I mean, hell, neutral rats. Yeah, neuterats are a problem. I hear they don't taste terrible, though.
Starting point is 00:30:21 I've never eaten one. I've been chased by one. really are they that aggressive there's as big as cats and uh here's gilrab okay uh ragglefrag was asking about chicken trees he said it's a japanese something or another and i told him you'd kick the door in like the kuley man and start spouting off in latin
Starting point is 00:30:45 because you probably know all about it because you're just a genius about that stuff so obviously phil you and i live in wildly different climates. Master of the understatement you are, yes. Yeah, well. So protective clothing for us is going to vary a bit. For you, it's going to be, I'm going to guess, for summer, lighter, thinner cottons
Starting point is 00:31:10 to take advantage of the cooling properties of the cotton, or some of the modern, like, what do they call them the performance microfibers? Yeah, I don't wear them, but I know what you're talking about. Honestly, I usually go straight to like either, if not a total cotton, like a cotton poly blend. I tend honestly, like my go-toes are, I have some short sleeve shirts. I have a lot of long-sleeve shirts that have like the button hook and everything where you can roll the sleeve up. I don't own hardly any pairs of shorts, which is why my little white. My little Irish legs are so white.
Starting point is 00:31:49 I wear long pants year-round, flip-flops in the. summer pretty good into winter and um if i'm off the pavement and i'm out in the woods it's closed-toed shoes i mean i'll wear flip-flops as far as like from the tent to like make morning coffee or something but if we're going if we're going like on a hike or whatever is immediately straight to closed-toed shoes and hiking boots i heard you say my wife my wife through the wall and had to jump on Your scientific feedback is important. I mean, she's far more intelligent than I am about a lot of things, most things.
Starting point is 00:32:34 That's why it's important to have a wife. They fill in those knowledge gaps. So for me, a lot of the time during the summer, well, we tend to have hot, but not as hot as you do. The sun isn't quite as bad. so when I'm not doing like work shorts yeah shorts are fine
Starting point is 00:32:58 but Chinese tallow see I don't think I've ever heard it called a chicken tree but a tallow tree I have heard of sorry Nick go ahead you're good but around us you know
Starting point is 00:33:15 spring fall winter heavy canvas pants a lot of times I'll go for water-resistant or at the very least materials that don't hold water very well or that let's see like nylon polyester stuff like that
Starting point is 00:33:40 but in my line of work because I'm dealing with hot steel chips all the time I have found that there are some of the some of the like heavy canvas pants that are DWR treated so you get a little bit of the benefits of the water resistance without the polyester fabric melting to your skin which is a real upgrade in my opinion the uh huh i recognize that again the um as far as like shirts and jackets, I tend to favor heavy canvas jackets or like wool quarters-zip pullovers. They do a better job of keeping like the heavy thorns off you.
Starting point is 00:34:32 They do a better job of keeping the bugs off you. They're a little bit warmer, but they're not too warm that you can't work in them. Whereas like a lot of the puffy pullovers, the nylon is so darn thin. If you try to do anything with them, it tends to get ripped or torn incredibly easily. and it melts. So, you know, I know that summer's around here don't, the sun isn't quite as bad down by you,
Starting point is 00:35:03 but I've gone to wearing a lot of the, like, the Huck and the performance fishing shirts when I'm working out in the yard in the summer. They suck for thorns, they suck for mosquitoes, but man, dude, they are so much cooler to wear. You should try them out. I do get the impression that they're kind of a, they're a very specialized thing. And no, Stuart, we're not starting over.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Not happening. So, let's see here. Will's Great keeps working even when wet. I will say this much, since we're in that vein of, like, clothing. Quite a number of years ago, I was advised by a person who knows. infinitely more than I do about like long range hiking and general outdoorsy stuff than I do and I spend a fair amount of I like to go outdoors but this guy put me to shame and he advised that I spend an absolutely gratuitous amount of money on real wool hiking socks smart wool
Starting point is 00:36:10 was what he recommended I like darn and and before I bought up my first couple pairs of those, which thankfully they were on sale, because they were like $22 a pair on sale. All I'd ever worn was like, you know, cotton socks. And I just kind of took it for granted that your feet were going to smell like death. And, you know, you're going to change your socks like once or twice a day because they get soaked through with sweat and everything. I just kind of took that for granted. And he convinced me to give it a try. So I bought three pairs.
Starting point is 00:36:41 And I have never ever worn cotton socks a day since with my hiking boots. period in discussion infinite like your feet don't stink they don't sweat as much it doesn't hold the moisture up against your skin it wicks it way better it it turns the act of being in hiking boots for like 12 to 16 hours into something that's much more pleasurable and when you go to sleep at night if you're if you let's say you're rugged hiking rugged camping and like you don't shower every night when you get into the bed and you take those socks off everyone else in the teb well thank you I wear
Starting point is 00:37:20 every day even during the summer because of my I have to wear steel-toe boots at work and boots are hot they are and I I was under the misconception that wool socks
Starting point is 00:37:34 would make my feet sweat more they're actually cooler and more comfortable in the summer than my cotton socks ever wore I mean it's not it's not an unfair assumption to make because I think we automatically associate wool with being
Starting point is 00:37:50 warm. Because most of the time you're wearing like wool outer clothing. Yeah, a wool sweater like a wool smoking jacket or those fancy dress jackets. Yeah, but a couple good pairs of merino wool socks it truly does change the entire experience of being in boots.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Matter of fact, we were at Preper Camp several years ago and I think it was called Old Grom It was a military surplus store. They had a vendors booth set up there. And on Sunday around lunchtime, it was like, blow everything out, get rid of everything because they didn't want to have to bring it home, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:38:26 You know how that works. Oh, yeah. It's every convention or a fishing show or anything like that. So they had a box of, I think it was four or six packs of wool boot socks. Like no name brand, but they were, they seemed like they were fairly decent quality. And I think they were like $10 for four. pairs or 10 bucks for three pairs. I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:38:49 I know that I grabbed two, you know, two bundles and checked out. Everybody, like, literally, everybody that walked in there grabbed a couple. Because it was just so frigging cheap. And, I mean, I keep them for backup, backup wool socks. That makes sense. Yeah. The, um, one of the other, one of the things I wanted to bring up, too, was you had that hurricane where you had the tree come down on your house, Phil.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Mm-hmm. Any time you guys are in a situation where there could be debris around, there could be, you know, down tree branches, you could be working with heavy tools. Yes, it is going to be hotter. You are going to be a little less comfortable, but you should probably put on some heavier clothing. Even if it means you're going to be a little more dehydrated, you're going to have to drink extra water. You know, a heavy pair, keep a heavy pair or two of canvas pants, even if you don't normally. wear them for each of your family members. Long
Starting point is 00:39:47 sleeve canvas shirt, depending on your environment, either canvas or wool or any of the work shirts. Heck, a good Dickie's stiff, thick cotton work shirt will do a pretty good job of keeping like branches and stuff from sticking
Starting point is 00:40:03 into good heavy pair of work gloves. I've really taken to Wrangler. Oh, yeah. So their ATG pants are pretty good yeah so I don't have any of the ATGs I use their um it's I forget
Starting point is 00:40:18 exactly which line but it's one of the lines of work pants and at this point I got a closet full of them like they're they're comfortable they don't hold moisture quite as badly as denim will they're fairly tough they're much more lightweight like they're just
Starting point is 00:40:34 they're nice enough that in the slate gray or in like the khaki color I can go to work for dress pants yeah yeah you can pass them you can pass them off for like kind of casual office gear and three or four pairs for the shirts yeah they're their their ATG shirts they used to have um it was before they had their ATGs it was a similar long sleeve button down you know eyelids on this on the shoulders it was a similar plaid shirt and i've got a bunch of those i mean they're just they're
Starting point is 00:41:10 they're comfortable they're durable to me it is always what i always write a fine line of is i don't like buying expensive things because i wind up screwing them up sure the only the sole exception of that is boots yes i will spend a boots tires bed yes not so much i i buy as expensive a bed as i have to for my wife i could sleep on the floor but yes i absolutely refuse used to skimp on boots because when I put on a pair of boots for a hiking trip I'm going to wear them until like damn their bedtime that night they better be comfortable oh absolutely I mean i'm sure everybody's grandfather everybody's got a older family member that's told in this rule anything that separates you from the ground or slows down or starts up your vehicle or things
Starting point is 00:42:02 you should not scrimp on your batteries your tires your brakes your boots or your bed even though that's kind of off topic. I mean, you think about it like this. If you go out to your vehicle right now and you look at, you measure like how many square inches of actual tire is touching the pavement
Starting point is 00:42:23 and multiply that by four, that is all the thing connecting your vehicle to the ground. And that means every horsepower and every little tickle of the brakes has to go through those four tiny little contact patches. So you can have these, gigantic huge tires but that's all
Starting point is 00:42:44 the contact patch you're going to get absolutely you know ragel said that's why his work boots cost $230 quality cost man it does just like you said but you know what one thing you can do to make those work boots last longer
Starting point is 00:42:58 even though they are expensive by two pair and I'll tell you why you if you alternate wearing them every other day this does two things for you It allows the insoles and the soles of the boots to fully decompress after you've been wearing them for 8 to 12 hours. And it allows all of the fabric and insulation or the foam or the leather to completely dry back out.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Your boots will last more than twice as long. I've got two pair of boots. I picked both of them up in 2019. I'm thinking I will probably have to replace one of them next year. now when i was buying just one pair of boots i was getting about two years out of them yeah fortunately my solomons have lasted a good long while but it's because i mean they only really get worn when you're hiking when i'm hiking or if i'm doing like heavy yard work like if i'm chains on stuff i want to have the boots on just because it's the it's the toughest pair of shoes i own well yeah because you what happens if a log rolls on foot well nine times out of ten i'm stomping over yard debris and everything else if i got the chance chainsaw out so that's that's a thing but yeah i mean extra ankle support can mean a lot yeah and see here's the thing sturdy outerwear and protective equipment kind of start to bleed together at a moment like this because like we we've talked about the fact that like you know chainsaw you
Starting point is 00:44:29 ought to have chaps you better have some heavy gloves better have some eye protection and you better have your helmet and the whole nine yards like every tradesman has just about safety squints, but please don't joke about safety squints. No, and, you know, I've even gone to the point of going out of my way to acquire glasses frames, because I wear glasses pretty much all the time. I probably don't need to, but I get headaches looking at things far away if I don't wear them. So it just makes my life a little more comfortable. I buy the metal framed glasses that are impact rated.
Starting point is 00:45:05 These are, these are anci-rated safety frames with polycarbonate. impact rated lenses. Yeah, it costs a little more money. But on the off chance that I end up forgetting to change to my work safety glasses for something, I've still got a little bit better eye protection on. And I buy glasses about every seven to ten years anyway. I'm pretty sure Raggle is joking and saying, what are all these things which you speak of? But I'm just going to say something, but you've only got two eyes and two ears. My ears are already shot. My eyes are still holding up relatively well so you know you you see a lot of guys that that they're like ah you know you don't need to wear safety glasses right up until they have to have a piece of steel pulled out of their
Starting point is 00:45:50 eye at the optometheus office because you can't anesthetize that and you get to watch the entire time they're doing it i've never had to have like a splinter pulled out of my eye but i will admit I've there's been a time or two where like even though I was wearing safety glasses I've had like a stream of sawdust or something like sneak in around and I end up with scratch cornea and that whole thing like I just I will always be a stickler for safety gear because as careful as I try to be there have been times where that safety gear has been the only thing saving me from an emergency room visit oh absolutely it is it happens faster than you're you're than people think, especially if people are not used to operating power tools. Yeah, and I would almost argue it happens more when you are used to operating them because you get complacent eventually. Oh, you absolutely can get complacent. I mean, we've, we've all seen the Leith video, right, where the dude took the ride. I promise you, that wasn't his first day standing in front of that thing.
Starting point is 00:47:01 I would like to hope not, because if it was, where was the trainer yeah well my suspicion is he probably leaned over that thing a handful of times got away with it until he didn't yeah and i have had to have that exact talk with a couple of much more senior machinists than myself even at my own company like hey guy you could die and i really don't want to clean you off the ceiling so Jeff, safety glasses are the only thing I've never gotten lazy about me too.
Starting point is 00:47:38 As you shouldn't. You've only got two wise. You know, I had the great fortune to learn at the expense of some of my family members who injured themselves fairly regularly when I was a young child, usually within sight of me. So I kind of got impressed upon me fairly early that these things are not optional. so um you know aside from the normal protective equipment uh like a safety glasses uh ear protection even like your electronic shooting ear protection is better than nothing um let's see what was the you know the mesh helmets that they have for uh chainsaw and fill that just really
Starting point is 00:48:23 keep the dust out mm-hmm they make polycarbonate full face shield ones that you can get that are about the same price. I think that's actually a better buy for somebody that's going to be doing a lot of general work because it's more applicable to other tools as well. You can't use the chainsaw one if you're running an angle grinder.
Starting point is 00:48:43 The particulate matter that's coming off it is too fine. And it's going to get right through that mesh. Because that mesh on the chainsaw ones is really only meant to stop large wood shavings. Yeah, I mean, it's meant to stop chips, not sawdust.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Right. Right. Although, in that case, I would argue that... You're supposed to wear safety glasses under that. I do. Yeah. But I would almost argue that, like, if you're getting a faceful of sawdust, you're probably using your chains on incorrectly, because I can't speak for everybody else,
Starting point is 00:49:15 but it didn't take me very long to realize, if I do this, the sawdust goes that direction. All it takes is a wind gust. Yeah, but it's still the difference between, like, a cloud of sawdust and, like, a steady stream coming. coming off the bar. Oh, sure. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Yeah. Absolutely. But since we're talking about protective equipment, you know I love to throw people curveballs. Flashlight. Flashlight, because guess what? My wife and I, we try to go out walk several times a week to fight the battle the of the bulge, me more than her, because she's lost a good chunk of weight.
Starting point is 00:49:53 And I lost a bit and then stopped because daylight savings time and, you know, it getting dark at like 4.45 in the afternoon kind of screwed me up. But this is now protective equipment because when we go out walking, this is to make sure that if there's a car, they just got off of work and has come through the neighborhood, they can see us.
Starting point is 00:50:13 So things like reflective devices, lights, quickly become protective equipment because getting run over by a 4,000 pound card doesn't sound like a vibe. No, absolutely not. I've been hit by a car before in it. One, surprisingly
Starting point is 00:50:28 well for me. I would not like to repeat it because I don't think it will go that well the next time. So what you're saying is, just because you rolled the dice and didn't come out, snake eyes, doesn't mean you want to keep rolling them. God no. God know. Cars are bigger than me, and much stronger,
Starting point is 00:50:44 usually. But, you never know. Yeah, flashlights are a great piece of protective equipment because if you can't see, you're far more likely to injure yourself. I mean, it's... Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:50:58 It sounds kind of basic, but, I mean, everybody's got the cell phone. We bring this up all the time. Flash on their halfway decent flashlight. Use it. Yeah. Oh, here's the thing. Do you keep a raincoat in your vehicle? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Poncho. Shitty poncho, but a poncho. Doesn't matter. It can be a crappy $5 Walmart poncho. But not getting your clothing soaking wet is definitely going to improve your comfort. your comfort if nothing else yeah but to me that just goes along with like that goes along with everything else it's like you should be you should have the proper clothing for the environment you're in and if that environment happens to be wet like it is down here 370 days out of the year
Starting point is 00:51:44 then you should probably be able to account for that yeah absolutely I don't do it anymore but you know there was a time when I kept literally a pair of shrimp boots in the truck at all times that's probably not a terrible idea down where you are for how often you guys get flood waters yeah the problem is if the water gets above the uh the top of the shrimp boo now you have a new problem to deal with well yeah your boot fills full of water yeah yeah ragger brings up a good one blanket keep a blanket in your car especially if you're up north by me it's an excellent idea I usually keep an extra jacket in my car for layering. I need to get better about keeping a spare change of clothes in my car,
Starting point is 00:52:31 but that's more of a work hazard thing. So I don't actually keep like a jacket or a coat or anything in my truck year round because for like 10 and a half months out of the year, it's kind of a superfluous exercise. I mean, we have days in the summer where it can be 60 degrees and 3.4. 50 mile an hour winds, that can get kind of chilling, even in the summer. So, no, Jeff, I don't have truck waiters, but that's mostly because I just, I'm not in that environment where that's, I'm not in the environment anymore these days where that comes up
Starting point is 00:53:09 often enough to merit it. My wife, on the other hand, does keep rainboot in her vehicle at all times because she has to work car line, which means escorting little urchins out to their vehicles sometimes when it's pouring down raining yeah there's my wife once it starts snowing she keeps all of her winter gear in the car yeah never knows when she could be called the sub sub for one of the teachers so well and that that's what i was going to say earlier like i most of the year i don't keep a coat in the truck there is a now you okay you've been to this part of the country once or twice in your life i'm sure And you know that, okay, northern or southern?
Starting point is 00:53:56 Where's Disney? My parents decided to take us to Disney at one point. I mean, it's on the border. But anyway. Yeah. So it is worth pointing out that, like, there is a portion of the year down here where it is pretty freaking cold early in the morning. Sure. But by, like, eight, nine o'clock, it's, you know, warmed up.
Starting point is 00:54:19 and it's like shorts and short sleeve, you know, shirt weather. Yeah. And we have that weird, that weird transitionary period for a couple of weeks on either side of winter. And those are the times when even though I could just run out to the truck, tough it out, jump in, turn the heater on, and I don't need to bring a coat with me everywhere I go. I still take a coat and throw it in the truck and then bring it back in that evening because in my mind, it is always the question of like, okay, let's say today's the day I have to change a change a spare on the side of the road. Would I rather do that freezing my butt off at 40
Starting point is 00:54:57 degrees? Or would I rather have a nice, nice warm coat? It's always, everything is always easier when you're comfortable. Yeah. Stuart, Stewart's, so for, for the sake of full disclosure, like Stewart is it, I think almost exactly the same latitude I am over in Texas. exact same weather there's the i i don't know if i would say it's like two weeks exactly but like there is there is this weird little transitionary period where it definitely feels like winter in the morning but it definitely feels like fall in the afternoon so up where i'm at we have this interesting thing that we like to call uh second fall third winter first second or third summer
Starting point is 00:55:41 oh finter or wall yeah basically what we'll get is starting in i October, we will get wild fluctuations from down into the 30s to sometimes as high as 80. That's uncalled for. Occasionally in the same week, sometimes in the same day. I have had days where it snowed overnight and it was 80 degrees when I left work at 3 p.m. It was dumb. It is extra dumb. it sounds pretty dumb to be honest nick it is it is it's just the consequence of living in the hell
Starting point is 00:56:21 that is illinois but for that reason i keep like a i don't know what the hell you call it's one those zip-up fleeces that's not really windproof and it's not really a sweatshirt weight it's kind of in between sounds kind of like a cardigan almost i don't know man it's it's like a you know north face made them really popular back in the two thousand's I know exactly what you're talking about. You know exactly what I'm talking about, where it's kind of got that nylon front to it and a lot of it, and then the rest of it's that fluffy kind of fleece material. Those things are fantastic for layering when you, number one, didn't bring enough jacket.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Or number two, your wife didn't bring enough jacket. Also a thing, yes. Yeah. You know, I like to keep one of those in my car because I can take pretty much whatever jacket I've worn. If I throw that thing under or over it, you can take it down into the 30s and most jackets will be okay as long as you have something that breaks the wind and then that extra insulation. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:28 So before we start walking this one out, spares. We already talked about spare shoes. And like in the name of full disclosure, like, I have a formula for how much underwear and socks and undershirt I pack for anywhere I'm going. for anywhere I'm going. It's the number of days I expect to go times 150%. Yep.
Starting point is 00:57:49 If I expect to be someplace for four days, I'm bringing six days worth of stuff. 200% for socks, is my word. That's, there's no wrong answer here except to not have enough. But I'm going to tell you that I would much prefer have to like, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:05 recycle a pair of pants several times than go with, or listen, I'd rather ditch underwear completely than go without socks. Yep. Or have your dirty, nasty, sweaty socks. Well, that's one nice thing about wool socks, though, man. If you take, and I have tried this a couple of times just for the sake of trying it, you take your wool socks that you wore today, throw them up to hang overnight.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Especially if you can get them somewhere exposed to direct sunlight, the next day you put those back on. They are not as nice as a fresh-washed pair of wool socks. No. but they are functional and they damn sure are a sight better than than previously worn cotton socks or heaven forbid stroke socks this is all true not debating any of that but i repeat i will i will suffer i will not pack a lot of things to have extra socks oh absolutely and extra and extra undershirts i will wear the exact same like outer shirt or flannel or whatever multiple times and just
Starting point is 00:59:10 suck it up but give me give me my extra undershirts and socks absolutely i mean i don't know what's your edc pistol phil i can't remember um so it's a canic c100 it's a clone of a cc75 compact how aggressive is the grip texture on it with the with the the grips i have on it now it's not as aggressive as it used to be put it that way i used to have i used to have grip panels on there i think they were lock or maybe they were vzig those are pretty aggressive yeah you've seen the vz grips were like it's almost like individual little pyramids yeah on the grips i had those nor i've literally developed a callus on the side of my side of me right where it used to rub i swapped out to uh lock grips with
Starting point is 01:00:10 which are still fairly aggressive, but the texture has a flat face to it, so not as bad. But if what you're about to ask is, do I have shirts that have holes in them on this side? Yes. No, what I was getting to was, so I have M&P 2.0C. Have you ever felt the grip on one of those? On what? What was it? An M&P 2.0?
Starting point is 01:00:37 Not on M&P. imagine like 40 grit aluminum oxide sandpaper oh jesus it's it is phenomenal as far as for shooting goes but if i'm not wearing an undershirt though i had one day where i just it was too hot i was not going to wear an undershirt when we were on vacation and i didn't i it sanded its way through my skin so bad it was bleeding in a couple of spots because of how aggressive that grip texture is that was That's what happens. Yeah, that was a bit aggressive. I've toned it back, and it's still that aggressive.
Starting point is 01:01:16 But, you know, the great thing is when you're shooting it, it doesn't move in your hands at all, no matter how much you sweat. Yeah, you just have to, you know, abrade the skin from around the grip to make it to draw it. Pretty much, yeah, you do. But that's what the undershirts are for. Then you don't have a problem.
Starting point is 01:01:34 And though it does wear a hole in your undershirt eventually. Yeah. so what i mean what else do we talk about for spares because so i'll be really honest like i probably have spares of most things in my in my wardrobe but not necessarily do i like carry with me like if i bring a jacket i'm bringing a jacket i ain't bringing like spare jacket you know what i'm saying yeah i can understand that for for heavy outerware absolutely i'm talking my thought in spares was do you have a second pair of work gloves in the different weights that you like? I mean, I've got one pair.
Starting point is 01:02:14 I've got two pairs of heavy, heavy work gloves and then like, I think three or maybe four pairs of mechanics because those things are basically disposable. Yeah, you wear through the fingers on those pretty fast. I try to keep one brand new pair of each of the gloves that I like. So I've got a pair of the mechanics fast fits that I am currently abusing to death. I've got a brand new pair still on the hangar I've got a pair of leather work gloves from when I'm working with timber or thorny shit
Starting point is 01:02:44 or any crap that's on fire because leather gloves just seem to handle being slightly on fire better than synthetics 110% Yeah And then I've got usually a pair spare Of each of the insulated gloves I like
Starting point is 01:03:01 Because I've got like a two pair of fingerless gloves that I wear when we do hiking and stuff like that. A couple pair of just the thin wool like pullover gloves that... You remember those gloves everybody had when they were a kid that was... They were the cotton gloves that were definitely not waterproof. They were just kind of elasticy. The stretchy cotton gloves
Starting point is 01:03:21 that everybody's parents always bought them in your hands froze at recess. They make those out of wool now, and those are fantastic. I've got two pairs of each of those of fingerless and finger gloves, and they are phenomenal. nominal for keeping your hands warm, but still being able to do things with them. Ooh, I've got one for you, and I actually am delinquent in this and need to fix that. Boot laces.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Oh, yeah. I keep a spare pair of boot laces in my truck. I keep a spare pair in my toolbox at work, and then usually one right above my boots in the closet. Yeah, I need to make a break when you're somewhere else. I need to make a point of, like, getting a couple of extra pairs. and just, like, stash in a way someplace. Even if they don't go, like, on a camping trip, whatever, because, like, let's face it, we've all done that thing
Starting point is 01:04:11 where you unlace your, your, your laces, and then you tie back together. But, like, for me, I always make a point of, like, I like to have things here at the house to fix problems. That way, when I find the problem, I don't have, I'm not obligated, like, oh, I got to go right out to the stores. Like, no, I'll just fix it here. And then I'll replenish that thing.
Starting point is 01:04:31 you know, a piece of pericord will do for a bootlace in the near term, but they don't stay tied as well. They really don't. As a regular boot lace. Especially like the texture thing, yeah. Yeah, it's a texture thing. I mean,
Starting point is 01:04:47 550 cord's good for a lot of things, but you better double and triple knot them damn things and they're still not going to stay tied. Regular is correct. Melted boot laces suck. They do. I do a bit of welding. and at work now and then and the hot steel chips will melt right through
Starting point is 01:05:04 your bootlaces too so spare bootlaces are always good Jeff is correct 550 cord does stretch which is a potential bad for laces but most of my bootlaces I've ever had also stretch
Starting point is 01:05:20 you know I've not even like the old leather boot laces which my grandfather swore by as a welder, those still stretched as you wore it through the day. I've always wondered how much of that was the laces stretching and how much of that was like your foot, like swelling and retaining water and shrinking and so on and so forth. Well, I know that when I buy a brand new pair of boot laces,
Starting point is 01:05:53 usually what I'll do is I'll take off my old ones before they're totally thrashed and break. And if you hold them up next to each other, your 72 inch boot lace new and your 72 inch boot lace that was on your boot, they are not the same 72 inches any. The older ones have gotten longer. Well, and I, okay, so let me say this. Stretching over time, I put full stock in that. I'm thinking about, does it stretch an appreciable amount throughout a day? I can't imagine it wouldn't. At the very least, I don't know. You are applying tension to it.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Yes. So. But it's a question, okay, full nerd. It's a question of elastic stretch or what is it called plastic deformation? In other words, like, if it stretches but it's still elastic, then yeah, it stretches, but it tensions itself back up versus it stretches and stays there. And then you feel the need to like unlace. them, tighten them up, and the retention. I'm like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:07:01 I had always been told by people that do a lot of, like, through hiking and everything, that, like, your foot does change size over throughout the day. Oh, it absolutely will. If you, um, one thing you should definitely do if you are hiking and you're not used to hiking, after about a half hour, untie your boots, retie them. Because your foot will have swollen. from being on your feet, not being used to it. Yeah, slightly off topic, but I'll also say this much.
Starting point is 01:07:35 For anybody who's not used to wearing hiking boots a lot, do some research into the various ways to tie those, to lace them. Huge difference. I will say that when I first got my solomons, I laced them up like, just crisscross applesauce, like I'd always lace boots. and they were not the most comfortable thing on earth.
Starting point is 01:07:59 They just pinched my foot in weird spots until I saw someone mention like, hey, you know, what I do is that I cross and then I come straight up and then cross. It's this weird way of lacing a boot, but after I try to once, it's the only way I'll lace my boots from that one. So if you feel the top of your foot about halfway back from the knuckle of your big toe to your ankle, if you feel up that line there's a bump at that joint there's actually a joint kind of in the middle of your foot
Starting point is 01:08:30 kind of like right here or your foot flexes just a little bit that's what you're skipping over is that hump when you don't cross the laces on that middle portion of your boot and that can make a huge difference depending on your foot shape
Starting point is 01:08:44 and the shape of the boot which is why I never I never like recommending specific boots to people you need to try them on You need to see how they fit your feet, because your feet are not my feet. I've tried Solomon boots. I fucking hate Solomon boots.
Starting point is 01:09:01 I cannot wear those things for longer than five minutes. They just kill my arches in my feet. I will happily admit that there are two kinds of people when it comes to Solomon's. There are people that try to pair on and hated them every minute of it. And then there's weirdos like me. They're like, this is the first pair of boots I've ever tried on that fit right. Uh-huh. That's probably why you can't wear red.
Starting point is 01:09:23 wings never tried a set of red wings honestly like everybody i know that likes solomon boots hates red wings so i tried when i tried these i tried solomons danners and keens did you like the keens wait no no no no no no not danner solomon kean and merrill oh yeah merrill's a good boot just didn't fit did nothing fit my foot as well as the solomon instead. Yeah. Did you like the Keynes? I don't remember anything objectionable about the Keens, but there wasn't anything remarkable about them to me either. Like, when I put on the Solomon and I got my weight on them, I was like, oh God. It's something in the, it's something in the, it's something in the in step, in the arch support. Like, I couldn't tell you what it is,
Starting point is 01:10:15 but there's just something about them. And Raggle, I'll say that, like, I have a weird shape foot. I have an arch, but I also have a very tall, end step for no reason I can figure out like the actual the actual dimension between like the very top of my foot right where it turns north towards the ankle and the floor just seems to be higher than most so what I run into a lot is I run into boots that like pinch me right there yeah and I don't get pain on the bottom of my foot I get pain on the top from the boot like constantly compressing those bones or I get into a situation where I don't have up our support and then my feet just hurt all day i couldn't tell you why i will just say that
Starting point is 01:10:57 yes for all for for god's sakes please try on a good pair of boots for a minute before you spend 150 200 on them but i'll just say that like if you like solomons you'll probably be like me and you'll never buy anything else and if you don't like them no hard feelings they are a the experience i had trying them on for the first time i can imagine that going in reverse for anybody who's foot is not shaped the way mine is. And it's just being the most god-awful boot you've ever. I didn't even get them laced up before they were uncomfortable. I had the opposite effect.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Dude, I didn't even get them laced up. I just popped them on and stood up. It was like, up, this is it. Yeah. But believe it or not, you know, those really shitty, I think it was Belleville boots that the military was issuing for a long time? Those fit my feet like they were amazing. for me. It is the wildest thing. My buddy was in the Air Force. They gave out boots like
Starting point is 01:11:57 candy to those guys. He gave me all of his boots because we had the same size feet and he couldn't wear them. So every pair of boots I had while I was enlisted, I just had to accept the fact that my feet were going to hurt for like six weeks. Before I made, before things started to like kind of give and mold my foot. And that was the problem I had. It was where the laces hit, right at the very top of my end step, to the point where the one time I had to go and do an FTX and a relatively new pair of boots, I actually went up with a blister right there directly underneath the laces.
Starting point is 01:12:33 Oh, yeah, that's corrected by just alternate lacing on them. Yeah, but the other problem. You know, now, that's something that the military probably should have taught you. Oh, the, dude, the military doesn't give a shit. They just tell you to suck it up, quit being a crybaby about it. Yeah, probably. I mean, maybe. I was going to say maybe they care of like, you know, your SF or infantry or something like that.
Starting point is 01:12:58 But if you're like me and you were, I was an aircraft mechanic, they just like quit crying. Just put them on and shut up. You'll be fine. You don't need feet. Just walk around on stumps. Jeff says you must have exactly average feet then. Tens? Men's tens.
Starting point is 01:13:14 I don't know. It's probably about average for a guy my size. Who knows? I couldn't tell you what size my shoes are. at this point. Yes, Jeff, everything can be fixed with drinking water and changing socks, which incidentally we recommend. There are very few things that a fresh pair of socks does not make better. I can think of a few things, but this is a family-friendly show. That's fair. Although, fresh pair of socks probably wouldn't hurt those things.
Starting point is 01:13:42 Right. I mean, it doesn't make it worse. That's all I'm saying. So why not try a first pair of sucks. All right. Well, I mean, this was your topic, and I have to admit, on the back of, like, as we are approaching winter, and I've been dealing with weird weather lately. Weird weather. We've got a polar vortex supposed to be coming down here in the next week or so. We could get a week of rain, or we could get a blizzard. Who knows?
Starting point is 01:14:13 well for the last four days we've been getting what they're calling super fog down here what's a super fog uh it's fog where your visibility drops down to 20 yards oh i got on the interstate the other morning and um i was moderately uncomfortable driving 40 miles an hour huh we had a couple of days up on the lake this fall that were that way too yeah i mean i've i've driven in some pretty heavy downpours man like i it's just the old the age old don't overdrive your headlights don't overdrive the conditions but i'm not going to lie the fog
Starting point is 01:14:55 the fog this the fog this year was it was worse that i think that i i've remembered in previous years hmm but it's been very very humid but it hasn't been particularly cold in the morning you know i'm saying like not cold enough to to cause all that to fall It's been kind of warm-ish and very, very humid. What you call particularly cold is, what, 50s? Okay. I know that that's not cold, but what I'm saying is... No, I'm asking for, like, a sense of scale here.
Starting point is 01:15:32 I mean, I don't... Because I was fishing in 30-degree weather this fall already. No, I'm cuddled up in front of a campfire at 30 degrees. No, I mean, like... I was on a boat in pissing... Pissing rain. Well, I mean, okay, put it to this way, yesterday morning. This morning, the low was 64 degrees.
Starting point is 01:15:55 So by no means cold enough to get that fog to like, you know, co-less and you would imagine not. Yeah, but humidity crazy high for this time of year. So, yeah, we've been dealing with weird, weird patches of fog. Yeah, we're seeing a really similar weather pattern up here to what we had. gosh, 10 or 12 years ago and we ended up with not any like crazy blizzards, but we would have weeks where every single
Starting point is 01:16:25 day we had three to four inches of snow every day. So, this could be a very snowy winter. See, this is not cold. This is Gulf Coast, man. Forties is sweater weather. 40s is a sweater weather. 40s is like my wife on the couch under a heavy blanket
Starting point is 01:16:49 telling me to turn the fireplace on weather. And see, this is why I can't move further south. She loves snow. She does. She wants to go snowy. Yeah, my wife keeps on telling me that she wants to move further north. And then she starts thinking about the snow. It's like, maybe not that far north.
Starting point is 01:17:09 So I don't know where we're going to watch. Well, you know, if we get a very snowy winter, you're more than welcome to come visit us and mess around in the snow a little bit. I'll teach you how to drift. It'll be fun. We'll drift some pickups. I cannot properly explain to you how little I look forward to snow.
Starting point is 01:17:27 But do you look forward to drifting pickups? I've done it before. Exactly. So the snow is worth it because you get to drift your pickup everywhere. Yeah, my wife's got a point, though. When you have when you've had a foot ripped off, cold hurts okay when you wear metal-framed glasses like i do and it's negative 30 cold hurts too
Starting point is 01:17:51 there's a certain amount of cold that no matter how healthy you are or how uninjured you are it's just painful see that's just all the more reason why you should move further south i see jeff says he'll take you sledding no jeff just try snow jeff lives in hell and sledding is fun no because people sled in snow yes
Starting point is 01:18:17 no can't snowshoe without it your terms are acceptable oh dear besides my wife would rather to go to the beach and she wears less clothing at the beach than she does when it's snowing so that's win win
Starting point is 01:18:31 that is fair all right 848 at night we had a couple of stumbles earlier in this show. I don't know quite what happened. It seems like I fixed one technical problem and slam face first into another.
Starting point is 01:18:46 So we'll see how that worked out. Yeah, well, all I know is the editing process is going to be really interesting on the back of all this. It should be okay. The rest of the stream was fairly stable, so that shouldn't be too bad for you. First 10 minutes.
Starting point is 01:19:06 Knock on wood, Nick. Nah, con would. All right. Matter of fact, it's going to go out the door. I keep telling you guys, like, you know, Nix provides some great information about clothing, but we could just go to like, you know, combat boots, hockey masks, and spike cod pieces, and, you know, fully embrace the bad Max vibe when the stuff pops off.
Starting point is 01:19:28 That is always an option. Leather jackets are always a vibe. I had a thought, but it's a family-friendly show. All right. matter of fact's going out of the door. Bye, everybody. Stay safe.
Starting point is 01:19:41 Stay dressed. And stay out the weather. Talk to another week. Bye. Good night. You know, You know,

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