The Prepper Broadcasting Network - Matter of Facts: Pass the Bandaids

Episode Date: February 17, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to the Matterfags Podcast on the Prepper Broadcasting Network. We talk prepping guns politics every week on iTunes, Stitcher, and Spotify. Go check out our content at MWFpodcast.com on Facebook or Instagram. You can support us via Patreon or by checking out our affiliate partners. I'm your host Phil Raveley. Andrew and Nick are on the other side of the mic and here's your show. So welcome back to MatterFacts Podcast, Nick's with me, Andrew, I don't know where Andrew is. I don't know if he got doged. I don't know if he got I don't know. I failed at my hosting
Starting point is 00:00:43 job because I was supposed to have recruited into cut, huh? He got recruited into cutco. He's now part of a pyramid scheme. Ah That actually seems more way too believable to be honest I've seen At least three times Anyway, so this is the shit show. We have a topic, it's called Pass Me the Band-Aids. We're gonna start off by dealing with a little bit
Starting point is 00:01:13 of admin work, a quick mini topic that one of our patrons brought up. Sometime this morning, I don't know, I have all my notifications from all you sociopaths silenced during the day so that I can focus on work. Like the four freaking hours of meetings in a row that I had to deal with today. Yeah, so I found out about all of y'all heckling each other
Starting point is 00:01:32 this afternoon and that's why I chose to have this conversation here instead of texting back what I was gonna text back, which was way more than I wanted to get into. So the sociopaths, patrons, thanks for supporting the show. Thanks for supporting us I would like to say thanks for the laughs, but I might have to thank y'all for the mental trauma, too I'll send you my therapy bill Y'all won't pay it
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Starting point is 00:02:21 So March 8th found blue state park State Park at the Big Pavilion. If you don't know where the Big Pavilion is, there's only one big pavilion at Fountain Blue State Park, but it is March 8th, 2025. The gist of it is that it's a free event. We're going to spend about eight hours talking about preparedness, about a variety of different subjects. It's being put on by myself, my wife, my sister, my brother-in-law,
Starting point is 00:02:43 and it is free to the public. The only thing you have to do is pay the state park three bucks a head or whatever they're going to charge you to get in, because I don't have the grease to make them wait that sorry. So you pay them. You come in. You come. You get a day pass to a really cool state park. You should probably come visit a way.
Starting point is 00:03:01 And you can come down and listen to me talk your ear off about Nonsense for most of the day if you're into that kind of thing Should be fun, they'll be coffee there will be coffee disaster coffee is sponsoring this event So I have a I have a brand new It's actually over there out of the frame, but it's a, uh, it's a Hamilton beach, 60 cup coffee earn. Yes. And, uh, I'm actually purchasing coffee for the event tomorrow, just to make daggum good and sure it's here well before March 8th. So there will be lots and lots of disaster coffee on tap for anybody
Starting point is 00:03:40 that would like to come. Fantastic. So onto Stuart's question. And I am I am paraphrasing from the seven paragraphs he wrote. That's true. He is verbose and he usually makes good points in those paragraphs. So it is worth the read through it. If you're in the Patreon chat and you skip Stewart's rants on things,
Starting point is 00:04:01 they tend to be informative. See that that's the thing with those. I would love to give Stewart a mountain of crap about how chatty he is, but he's forgotten more about most of the stuff than most of us know, so it's kind of like, ugh. Now, that doesn't mean that we're not going to make jokes about, you know, calling him grandpa and his age and the fact that he had to wrestle a dinosaur. He helped invent the typewriter. He helped invent the typewriter. He he apprenticed under Thomas Edison. I think I might have made a joke about one at one point or another about how he had to wrestle an alligator wrestle wrestle a dinosaur for his dinner one evening.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Like he's I love him to death. I truly count him as a friend, but like he's, I love him to death. I truly count him as a friend, but like, he's kind of the grandpa in the group and we give him hell about it frequently, which- That's all right. He encourages it. He also gives it back to all of us. So he does. He keeps it fun.
Starting point is 00:04:59 But he asked this question, like, you know, like with the front loading of like, he talked to a bunch of friends of his and like, what range do you zero your AR 15 to if it's chambered in five, five, six. And with those rules of engagement, like a lot of people seem to center around like either a 25 yard zero or a hundred yards zero, which my first 50 was in the mix as well. He was in the mix. But honestly, my first thought was like, OK, well, 25 yards is a really common
Starting point is 00:05:26 length for a gun range. 100 yards is a really common length for a gun range. I'm seeing some parallels here. Hey, you can't really fight where the targets are sometimes. But there's a good reason for each of those ranges. And it does depend on your barrel profile, your barrel length, which grain weight of bullet you're using, and your personal use case. I mean I was brought into AR shooting using a 25-250 zero or it might be a 50-250 zero. I can't remember the exact breakdown
Starting point is 00:06:04 but essentially what it comes down to is if you you zero at that first range you're going to have be pretty close to the same impact point at the second range so I I used to do a lot of I think pistol carving classes and stuff like just so I can get it my OCD out of the way. I think I think what you're referring to is 52 50. Because it might be 52 50. 25 300 is what's ingrained in my head. 15 years. It could be 25 300. It's probably 52 50 then that I'm thinking of because I know it was 250.
Starting point is 00:06:36 It wasn't 300. But the whole point of that range is of those distances is if you're in a short engagement distance, your zero different distance between muzzle point and 25 yards is insignificant enough that it's not gonna matter in a close quarters use of firearm. What are you counting as close quarters? Just for the audience.
Starting point is 00:06:58 So anything inside of 25 yards. Oh yes. Anything inside of 25 yards. of 25 yards. Oh yes. Anything inside of 25 yards. With your, that would be like inside your house, in around a couple of vehicles, anything where you're not taking precision aim because you're not gonna have time. And I just, I hear what you're saying, I cringe at the age-old adage of you don't have to aim because you should always be aiming, but you don't. Well, there's a difference between aiming and precision aiming.
Starting point is 00:07:30 You can take some shortcuts in the fundamentals of shooting when you're under 25 yards. Like, you know, just you could take some shortcuts. It'd be all right, it's close. You can, but you're also not picking the shirt button on the target to shoot at. You're shooting at center mass at those engagement distances in that type of situation. Whereas if you're going out to 250 or 300 yards, you are picking a spot on your target or a smaller area on your target to try and hit with a smaller aim point on your reticle.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Donut of the death reticles with the pip in the center. You're using that center pip at range, you're using the donut being over center mass as you pull the trigger point. Because you're more than likely going to make a hit doing that. But, you know, I never had a problem with the 52-50-0 shooting competitions. Granted, most of the targets were between 40 yards, which was about what they considered their safe distance for ricochets or forangibles coming back at you. Their longest range was usually 250 to 300. So you really didn't have to think much about compensating for the difference in the range of the target
Starting point is 00:08:49 because your point of impact was probably not gonna be like bullseye close, but it'd be alpha zone hits or beta zone hits at the worst. No, that's all fair. Now I told you that my methodology for this is a little weird. Yeah, go for it. So first of all, in long guns, I have, well, okay, in semi-automatic intermediate cartridge
Starting point is 00:09:14 long guns, like let's be really specific here. I've got an AK and I've got two AR-15s. They are all, best I recall, zeroed at different ranges, which most people would scratch their head about and think to themselves, well how do you remember what your hold-under's are on three different rifles? Stick with me on this. I don't get extremely concerned about the hold-over or hold-under on a lot of my intermediate cartridge weapons for a reason. What I do is I start with kind of a basic analysis of what is what do I believe is the max the reasonable max effective range of this weapon system. So let's start at the AK. It has a scout mounted red dot, it has no magnifier and AK case with factory ammo we were talking about like
Starting point is 00:10:05 a 4 MOA rifle reasonable yeah yeah I mean you'll get some that are better than that but you could reliably be three to four okay so let's just say that if if what I'm aiming at is roughly torso size 250 yards yeah you can you see further than that without magnification? Sure. Can you identify targets beyond that range reliably? Question terrain, question, terrain, dependent, questionable. But if it's a four M.A. rifle and I'm aiming between a person's shoulders at 250 yards, that's 10 inches.
Starting point is 00:10:40 So I reliable chance of hitting a target of that size of that. So I'm working backwards from 250 yards. Now, given that that optic is mounted on the gas block of that AK in a scout configuration, it's very it's as close to the bore as you can get with an AK. Let's start there because that has its own right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're a different but I fed all this information into a ballistic calculator including that hide-over bore and What I came to the conclusion was was that with whatever zero distance I picked
Starting point is 00:11:13 I don't remember at this point it might have been 50 yards. It might have been 75 whatever it was. I Had the smallest amount of variance from that zero distance out to 250 yards. And that was what I was aiming for. It is it's a it's now a function of rather than have to know at 100 yards, I'm going to be this higher, this low. And at 150 yards, I'm going to be this higher, this low.
Starting point is 00:11:39 I know that from point blank to 250 yards, I am within this. And I think that was what the math came out to. It was like three and a half, three and three quarter inches, high, high or low. So I was like, okay. Yeah, if I remember it, that's fairly similar to like the 52, 50, zero on an AR. You know, you're talking about a deviation
Starting point is 00:12:00 of plus two to minus two. So that's kind of where my mind goes, is I look at it as what gives me The narrowest cone over my engagement over that that engagement window and that's what I zero the weapon to i'm not so much concerned about Whether it's 50 yards or 55 yards or 70 yards or 75 I don't really care what i'm looking at is if you look at the way zero and a weapon works If you understand ballistics, then you understand that when you zero at the way zero and a weapon works, if you understand ballistics, then you understand that when you zero at 25, 50, 75,
Starting point is 00:12:28 and a hundred yards, what you're doing is, is you're changing the path that bullet takes from the muzzle up to that zero distance, which means you're gonna have, beyond that zero distance, you're gonna have a much more aggressive arc up above it and before it comes back down True so by knowing that you can either make the you can make the zero distance further out or closer
Starting point is 00:12:54 So that you change what that parabola looks like and that is mostly what I was concerned about So like that my 18 inch rifle has a magnified optic on it. It's set up as a D It's set up as like a DMR. It's zeroed at a hundred yards I'd probably zero it at further distance that if I had a reliable range beyond that But I know that with a 6x magnifier I know that with the hand load I have in that gun because it'll shoot about an inch and a half At a hundred yards. I know okay, I could I could Reliably reasonably push this engagement window much further out than that 250 yards at a K. I've got magnification
Starting point is 00:13:33 I've got a much more accurate weapons platform. I Can probably put lead on target three four hundred yards. So why wouldn't I say? 400 yards is probably about where I'm gonna be and then from there reasonable to point blank is what i what i what i want that i want to look like. But then the funny part comes with this thing that's behind me that is zero to fifty yards. might not make a lot of sense because 16 inch AR shoots five five six. There's really no reason why this thing has to be zero to that. That short of a range, except it is built primarily for night vision. So the op, the hide over bore is way, way higher than either of the other rifles.
Starting point is 00:14:25 And I got curious one day and started doing some math because I'm a nerd and I realized that the higher above... Okay, so I'm just going to like make a general statement and please don't ask me to go back and dig up all the math and everything I did to prove this, but basically the higher above the bore the optic is, it's actually beneficial to make the zero range shorter. It makes for a, it makes for less variance above or below your point of aim out to a reasonable distance. If the, if, if the, if the optic, if the center line of the object is closer to the barrel, it makes sense to stretch that and get that zero distance out further. It gives you a much more general parabolaola but when you're, but you know, when you're height of a bore is this, it just makes sense to zero to a shorter range.
Starting point is 00:15:11 It actually made for a weapon with a much, with much smaller hold over hold unders out to range. Sure. That makes sense. So that's why 10 minutes worth of conversation. I did not want to try to text all of that to all y'all but like that's That makes sense, but it it it just goes back to a point that you've made before The mission or the purpose behind the piece of gear drives how you set it up
Starting point is 00:15:38 Yeah, and what piece you need? Yeah, I mean the thing I've always told people and this is this is like this is Guns this is almost everything. It's always I am less concerned I'm less interested in what you did or what you chose then why because why First of all, it tells me you thought about it But why to me is more interesting because it's the why a lot of times that lets us pick apart each other stuff and be Like well, did you think of this? Did you consider this? I I don't like to make blanket statements and blanket Recommendations I am much. I am much more prone to tell people like let's talk about
Starting point is 00:16:18 Everything that you and I are seeing that might affect your decision and then let's let's let's let you make a decision make sense for you. Absolutely. Even though I understand that this is the internet and that level of like mature thoughtful discussion is kind of anathema to our society these days. I get it. I get it. I can't help myself. Well we gave stupid people the ability to talk to the masses. Congratulations the arguments have devolved. I mean I hate to say, but you and I didn't do that. And no, I'm saying we as humanity did that. I was about to say, and we are now reaping the consequences. Can't even can't even say that was like our generation.
Starting point is 00:16:56 I'm pretty sure stupid people talk to the masses started with monarchs. Well, yeah, probably. Yeah, but you know, it has its ups and downs. I'm just saying you can only have so many kids with your cousins before the gene pool needs to be dredged. You know what I'm saying? There's a reason so many of the Habsburg and the Rothschilds have weak chins and jacked up teeth.
Starting point is 00:17:20 But that's a different show mostly because they're the same family. Family tree is a vine Yeah, for sure, all right, so let's talk about the topic which is home medical now I I did promise my wife. I was not going to pick on her, but she is who the one no don't do that No, she's cooking my dinner and I Don't want to find things in it. That'll upset me later But No, she inspired this because Got a couple of weeks ago. She was making dinner. I
Starting point is 00:17:58 Don't remember what I was doing. I was close by and the next thing I know I heard an owl in a stream profanity roll out of her mouth Turn around and she was doing the The oh I hurt myself dance in the kitchen like one foot to the other, you know grasping your hands together and I was like, oh Didn't know how there was cutlery in here. Yeah. Well, I also heard the not the kitchen knife clatter into the sink And I was like, oh Jesus Jesus Christ. So, you know, had to go over. And the very first thing I did, honestly, and I couldn't tell you this right thing or wrong thing to do, but like with both of her hands like this, I just put my hands around her wrists to like take control of her and be like, Yeah, you know, like, try to get her to stop looking at it. And I'm like, babe, look, look
Starting point is 00:18:47 at me. Let me deal with the cut. I can't tell how bad it is. I need you to open your hands up. And eventually I got her to like relax enough to show me what the cut was. And I was able to assess it. And we dealt with it at home. It did not. We we could debate we could debate with the internet forever whether or not it should have got stitched. I've cut myself much worse and not stitched it so Yeah, like it was fine the next day, but it was deep enough that it needed to be dealt with Yeah deep enough that it was gonna make a mess if it wasn't handled. Yeah
Starting point is 00:19:21 But I know exactly what you're talking about But it did kind of bring up this this whole thing because how many times have we talked before? About how none of you none of y'all out there in listener land had better have a tourniquet and not have a whole bunch of Band-aids under your sink cuz I'm not saying I'll be mad at you, but I'll be very disappointed Raggle-frag, had a work call. Tell your work to buzz off. No, don't tell him to buzz off. Yeah, don't tell him that.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Paychecks are very important. We all like getting paid here. This is a capitalist. Yes. Yes. I this is a capitalist podcast. I like having a job. I like getting paid. Fortunately, my work stops calling me before this podcast starts.
Starting point is 00:20:04 And I very much like to keep it that way, if at all humanly possible. I leave my phone in a different room. So even if they called, I'll find out later. So yeah, I mean that, that was, that's kind of what inspired this. And I thought it'd be a good topic to go through and talk about. Cause like, you know, I feel like a lot of preparedness shows talk medical stuff. And I feel like a lot of people immediately go to like, you know, tech med side of things. They start talking about trauma, trauma medicine, which I get, I understand. Sure. Yeah. I mean, it's when it matters. It's the only thing that matters.
Starting point is 00:20:40 But and not just that, but like, Nick, you've heard of the rule of threes right like three minutes three hours three days three weeks Yada, yada. Yeah. Well that that whole three that whole three are that whole three minutes thing is If you don't get airflow to the brain for three minutes really bad things start happening And I always get somebody with this I ask them What could stop you from getting air to your brain and everybody immediately goes to asphyxiation, drowning, some people go smoke inhalation, but you know the one thing they almost always forget? Exsanguination. Because the red stuff in your body is what's supposed to get the oxygen where it's supposed to go and if it doesn't do its job then really bad
Starting point is 00:21:20 things start happening. So I always point out to people and like if you're bleeding, no other problem is as pressing as that. You don't have the time to, you don't have the time to be worrying about, Oh, I'm hungry or, Oh, I'm thirsty. If you have an arterial bleed, you have one problem to deal with. All the others can wait until after that's dealt with. So I totally get the focus on like tech med.
Starting point is 00:21:46 I totally get the focus on trauma care. I get it. That's cool guy stuff. Yeah, it is cool guy stuff. But you know what else is cool? Being able to take care of your wife when she drags a kitchen knife through the frigging tip of her finger.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Oh, absolutely. Or being able to take care of yourself when you do something stupid and put your finger into an angle grinder or something I mean it it happens to anybody that that does any amount of Nick have you put your finger is when angle grinder? No, not an angle grinder a bench grinder. Yes, but not an angle grinder I've had to fix up people that have done it with angle grinders
Starting point is 00:22:22 I'm just saying the minute the minute you said do stupid things a little too smoothly. Hey, you know what? We all do stupid things. We've all injured ourselves. I mean, Phil, I can't be the only one here that's cut themselves with a pocket knife doing something that they probably shouldn't have been. You're gonna you're gonna make me do this, aren't you? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know how well that shows up on camera, but oh shit, that's weird I got one on that same spot. Yeah. Well, that's a six stitches and attending to repair when I was Third I missed the 13 years old I think How old are you 42 in fifth grade 12 I Was no I might have been over that. Okay. I was starting my freshman year of high school. But this happened
Starting point is 00:23:08 over the side was the day before I went into fifth grade. I was carving some I want to say balsa wood with an exacto knife. Oh, and I slipped and I put that exacto knife right across my thumb cut the nerve that goes up the back of my thumb It's still numb most of the time But yeah, so I got to start fifth grade with a you know baseball mitt worth of gauze raptor Wait like these things happen, especially if you play around with anything. It's even remotely dangerous I mean the steel chips off that lathe back there will slice you open like a razor blade. You know you just this stuff you have to have around. I mean if you do any cooking at home
Starting point is 00:23:49 you're playing with well you should be playing with very sharp knives because dull knives do so much more damage. Yes so anyway that's kind of what provoked all this was we had that experience. that's kind of what provoked all this was we had that experience. I had, I had to triage my wife, my wife's finger, drag the bucket of stuff of which I have a picture of out from underneath the cabinet. We had to do wound care. It was dealt with. She's fine. The she's not going to lose her finger or anything, but like, it caused me to think about how, how many people out there might overlook something like this,
Starting point is 00:24:27 or even just how many people like they have their one box of Band-Aids deep in their medicine cabinet, you know, which like goes against a lot of things we preach, like we talk about how two is one, one is none. We talk about stacking things deep. We talk about buying things in bulk, especially things that don't have expiration dates or don't spoil very often or at least very long expiration. I'm going to tell you, I've never pulled a bandaid out and had the adhesive fail unless it was weight, unless it was really, really cheap crappy band-aids, but the really good ones last for a while. They do. They last for a very long time. I mean, long enough that you're gonna go through the box more than likely.
Starting point is 00:25:07 I mean, I think the one time I saw it happen, it was at my grandparents' house and who knows how long those things have been there. Yeah, it also helps keep electrical tape around. Yeah, electrical tape is a big one. I'm not too proud to admit that I have electrical tape gauze onto me before when I was working in blue collar jobs. Well, you know, if you are sweaty, if there is oil around, if there's coolant around, that electrical tape sticks so much better than the adhesive on the
Starting point is 00:25:36 Band-Aids. Good. It's probably not great for your skin. It's good for hair removal. It does do that very well. It's really good for hair removal. If you're in to have a smooth, not hairy hands, boys like electrical tape or duct tape, highly recommend it. It will do that. But so anyway, so let's start with the really boring part that nobody wants to talk about. Start with what's between your ears.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Training, training, training experience. I mean, there's a whole bunch of wound care that isn't that there's a whole bunch of wound care. Honestly, you could learn from talking to somebody over the age of 60. Absolutely. And if you don't have anybody in your life that like can pass along a lot of that to you, then join the Patreon group and talk to join the Patreon group and talk to Stuart. Or just go make some frickin friends like at a church or a
Starting point is 00:26:31 social club or whatever. But I'm just saying like a lot of this help YouTube University. There's so much. This is one of those moments where I hate to be on a soapbox. But like, it drives me crazy when somebody says that they can't figure it, they can't figure out where to learn something. Cause I'm like, y'all, y'all says all y'all on the internet have more information on your cell phones in your pockets right now than I had in an encyclopedia set when I was a kid. So the idea that you cannot Google literally freaking anything and figure it out in five minutes or less drives me nuts but like a lot of this is just
Starting point is 00:27:09 basic do some research and learn it or if you're talking about more the tech med side of things where it's like how to do Triageing or how do more advanced techniques or how to use more advanced equipment? There's classes all around the country that are available that can take you from zero and get you to a point where you should have some reasonable confidence. I mean, pick up a reasonably recent Boy Scout manual or hell, even the one from when I was a kid, I was going through and throwing away shit a few years ago from that I have moved through three different houses and found my boy scout manual. The first aid section took up a third of the book.
Starting point is 00:27:51 It was a phenomenal first aid cause they knew who they were recruiting. Yeah. Yeah. Adolescent and teenage boys that they're handing hatchets and pocket knives to. We went through a lot of band-aids and guns but y'all learned. But well we did and and the other great thing about it is you don't even have to pick up a manual. All right red cross classes. Yep. I guarantee you if you live anywhere in the continental U.S. you are probably within a couple hour drive of a red cross class. Possibly even free Red Cross class is put on by your local fire department. I mean I think the town I live in now does it once a
Starting point is 00:28:31 year where you can sign up for a class and if you weren't at the class last year they'll give you a priority spot in this year's but the town I lived in prior to this they did them quarterly. Yeah and anybody could walk in and take the class paid for by your tax dollars. You might as well take advantage of it. Was it advanced wilderness first aid and trauma medicine? No. Basic triage and basic wound care to help somebody get them to a higher level of care? Absolutely. But then again, if you haven't taken those basic first aid classes, why on God's green earth are
Starting point is 00:29:03 you even thinking about advanced medical courses? Because that's what the fancy YouTube men say. The fancy YouTube men are morons. And feel free to quote me on that, because I'm not a fancy. I mean, we are on YouTube. Yes. And I have been known to be a moron. Yes, but we're not fancy.
Starting point is 00:29:21 And we pretty universally espouse common sense on this show. You know, try to, try to common sense and anti-government rhetoric. Oh, that needs to be on a shirt. We can do that. We do know a lady. She does a very nice job. T-shirts are common sense and government route, anti-government rhetoric. Now I just need somebody that can make a little cartoon characters out of you and me Do you know an animator you can probably find a guy animator
Starting point is 00:29:54 No graphic designer to a battle work And I'll reach out. All right, so Here's the air thing is like I start with what's in your medicine cabinet. Please start with what's in your medicine cabinet like there's no reason not first of all, like let's consider for a moment that like we we've talked before about like prep, you know, prep food prepping and the first thing I said to everybody back then was like start with what's in your your pantry like Your pantry is part of this everything is in your pantry. You probably eat I'm assuming and You should probably have more of it somewhere else. Like that's how this works. So whenever we start talking about Medical stuff I immediately say what's in your medicine cabinet Let's start there like you should have and I just listed a whole bunch of stuff and if this sounds like stuff
Starting point is 00:30:46 that's in your medicine cabinet already, good. You passed the test like it should be in your in your medicine cabinet. But do you have a backup bottle? But there's the next part because after you've exhausted your medicine cabinet because unless your medicine cabinet is much cooler, much larger than mine is, I have a literal box of junk underneath the underneath the sink in the bathroom. And it is. It and it's it's more band aids.
Starting point is 00:31:16 I was telling Nick before we started running the show, um, Costco sells these bulk packs of band aids and only G they're fantastic. Only Jesus knows how many are in there All I know is I saw one and thought why not I can always find a reason to buy more Band-Aids but Band-Aids Four by fours, which is just you know, like little foam little little gauze pads. They're freaking useful for everything Roll gauze cohesive bandage. I buy that stuff a box at a time because it's useful as hell. Amazon has cohesive bandage 24 packs for reasonable prices and they're pretty good quality.
Starting point is 00:31:54 That's where all of mine have come from I'm pretty sure is Amazon? No, I take it back. I bought some locally over-the-counter. When I, when I believe last time I ordered them and I don't quote me on this but when I compared it to like Walmart prices of buying two rolls I was able to get 24 pack of the Coban for about the same price as four rolls from Walmart. It was a significant cost savings. Yeah. Like I said, I've, I've, you had to, you had to order it a couple of days out, but I mean, quite frankly, you should have enough of this stuff lying around that waiting a couple of days shouldn't be the end of the world.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Yeah. My wife had a minor foot surgery, so we were going through a fair amount of co-band holding gauze and various other dressings to her feet so that she could wear normal shoes, you know, and go about her day to day life. And my God, the amount of co-band we went through was ridiculous. Yeah. But the thing I love about cohesive bandages, like. I'm sure everyone has had that experience of like trying to use
Starting point is 00:33:00 the big band aids and you feel like you get a little bit sweaty or your skin gets a little bit oily and the fricking adhesive immediately starts coming off. So yeah, I've gotten to the point where I reach immediately for medical tape. And if I'm medical taping anything, I'm going all the way around the limb back to the tape. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Or I'm reaching for a cohesive bandage or something. Something that's going to encase the limb or encase the wound and go all the way around it so that it's not going to come. Let it breathe and let it breathe. Well, it's the air thing is like as soon as the wound is closed enough, I like to leave it open in the evening while you're sleeping so you can get some air to it. Yeah, it seems to help.
Starting point is 00:33:44 I'm not entirely sure on the medical reason for why, but it works good. I'm not smart enough to know the the biological reason for it. I just know it works and that's usually good enough for me. Ragel brings up a good point. What's the stuff called for diabetics to get a quick fix, not insulin? Probably some kind of glycerin, like a simple sugar in a gel. I have seen people use
Starting point is 00:34:12 fixie sticks and hard candies in a pinch. So I know that now I know that when I was growing up, my mother was and still is hypoglycemic and I also struggle with it. And what always did her a lot of good was the Lance peanut butter crackers, little round ones. Oh, sure. peanut butter is great because it's got a ton of protein in it. So ton of protein, little bit of simple carbs. So yeah, the it's not going to like shoot your blood sugar up as fast as sugar will. But the carbs will get your blood sugar up pretty quickly but then the protein from the peanut butter tends
Starting point is 00:34:47 to like have some staying power and settle things down but you know all those things I would say that if you are if you are diabetic then whatever you need to treat that in a pinch needs to be in here and probably needs to be in all of your kits. Yeah, I agree. You know, Raggle asked as well if we keep glycerin packs in our first aid stuff. I do not because my wife, my family, me, we're not diabetics. And I have been told by my one friend who is that hard candy is just about as good
Starting point is 00:35:26 So I keep some of that around because I like hard candy anyway And so it's a nice little morale booster thing in my hiking packs I like a little bit of Jolly Ranchers Reese's Pieces stuff like that, you know And that that works for a good quick sugar pick-me-up. I mean even stuff like fruit Like fruit leathers and whatnot can work because there's sugar in it. But it's, you know, obviously it's not as ideal as like a glycerin gel that they could just quick slurp down.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Yeah. And I can't speak for diabetes, but like I can say that for hypoglycemia, because hypoglycemia is usually being caused by an overactive pancreas. Like you eat something that pisses it off and it says all the insulin right now. And that-
Starting point is 00:36:11 Okay, so critically low sugar. Yeah, that's high hypoglycemia versus hyper, but that is just as dangerous. It is, but that's why I feel like I can always speak to that, like that's why I'm very heavily relying on things like nuts peanut butter things have a lot of protein because it is ultimately slow calories is ultimately the protein that is going to stabilize your blood sugar because If you're hypoglycemic and you respond to while my blood sugar is really low with a big dose of sugar Guess what your pancreas is gonna do?
Starting point is 00:36:43 all the insulin again so you wind up in this roller coaster where your blood sugar goes way up and then it crashes and it goes up and it crashes and you know that's why like that's one of the reasons i've gone to this like high fat high protein diet is because it doesn't piss my pancreas off and it just keeps my blood sugar nice and neutral. That makes sense. But I digress. Anyway, um, so where was I? Oh, alcohol prep pads. Buy those.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Always a good idea. Yeah, buy those. Triple antibiotic ointment, little, the little setchette. So that stuff's fantastic too. Skin stapler. I think I got given that by somebody and it's just stayed under my cabinet in case somebody has a really really bad day. That's one I've debated on giving but I've also got the the sterile strips that work kind of okay and they're not as invasive especially for
Starting point is 00:37:42 people that aren't like you and myself that are okay with suffering because when you get your skin stapled at the hospital they numb all of that and I can't imagine it would be comfortable to do without the numbing agent. Quite possibly that's why I don't intend to use it unless there's simply no other good options. Right I I mean as a last ditch red line, sure I get it. It's just one I have not seen fit to include yet. Yeah. Seems like a good idea. I mean, potentially. Yeah. Steri strips are another good one. I've got a handful of those in the medicine cabinet. The vacuum packed ones or the like paper sealed ones. No, these are the ones that are like plastic
Starting point is 00:38:25 They're like vacuum packed in plastic Yeah, get the vacuum packed ones because I had some of the paper Packed ones when I first got into hiking I would throw some in my hiking pack because if you slip and fall on something You could gash your leg up pretty good and the stereo strips are great for that But the paper ones the humidity took all the adhesive off of them and the paper actually opened up and started falling apart. That doesn't shock me. In my hiking pack over a summer. Yeah, you know, lesson learned, man. I spent a few months, you know, running that stuff around in the bush and I went to craft. So I stopped buying those and got the ones that were about twice the price, but they stay together and they've got a best buy date.
Starting point is 00:39:05 I think that was like seven years out. Yeah. And before we get off of this, ace bandages and splints. Bra obvious freaking reasons. And this doesn't even... Damn splints. Fantastic. And this doesn't even get into like, you know, like the wrist braces, the knee braces, the ankle braces, because every one of us has rolled or twisted something in one point another like there's Ace Bandage can cover a lot of those at least temporarily Now let's see here do you want me to flip over to Your box under the sink. Yeah, let's do it that way
Starting point is 00:39:40 Uh, that's actually so that slide number six. I mean go to the red bag first go to the red bag first. I think that was I don't remember what slide it was So this is what stays in our linen closet. All right, this is Not boo-boos. There are some larger bandages and some of the side pockets, but this has got Chest seals gauze, tourniquets, gloves, splints, large triangular bandages. There is CPR stuff in here. Big boo boo stuff. This is grab the bad bag. If you tell somebody, if someone's seriously injured, you can go in the house, take a left, small linen
Starting point is 00:40:25 closet door, open it, grab the red bag. If someone is seriously injured, this has got most of the stuff you're going to need. In that same closet, there are on a different level, there are bandages, there are, you know, antibiotic ointment, stuff like that, bee sting kit stuff. But this is like, this is like grab in case of emergencies bag. It's all bundled up together, snapped together. It's got the paramedic symbol. So anybody with any medical training at all sees that bag, they're going to go, okay, this is clearly a trauma bag. They're going to grab that and they'll have everything they need. I think there's some cold packs in there too. But in my medicine cabinet is more of like basic bandages and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:41:12 So I, and then this is like overflow in my pantry kind of thing down in the basement. This is all the stuff that's out for ready use. There's further extra of all of this in a Pelican case for weatherproof storage, but you'll see there's four by four gauze here, triple antibiotic ointment, big triangular bandages, ab pads, gauze rolls, sting relief, cause we've got a lot of bees.
Starting point is 00:41:43 In fact, you guys in the Patreon group might remember that I had to take out about a four foot long section of my soffit. I went through quite a few of those Sting Relief pads. They're fantastic, by the way. I've got airway kits and bagging kits because I've got a friend who's an EMT and a friend who is an intensive care and trauma nurse. So I kind of asked them, I was like, hey, above and beyond normal first aid stuff, if somebody got hurt, say cutting down a tree or whatever on my property, because I do that stuff fairly often, what would you want me to have?
Starting point is 00:42:17 And my buddy said an airway kit would be fantastic. It's simple. You know, you only have to replace the tubes when they go bad. The bags usually last for many, many years. He said, buy this stuff, buy the nasal pharyngeal airway stuff and the those little multi-size pieces on the right hand image there next to the stare strips. So you get that stuff and you're pretty well good. He said I could bag somebody and keep them alive for a much longer time than CPR will allow. And then a big box of the instant cold compresses because sometimes you don't have time to dick around with an ice pack.
Starting point is 00:42:59 So that seems pretty, pretty comprehensive. I mean, that's, that is the list of stuff that was recommended to me by the medical professionals in my life and they said beyond that you're really not treating anything without an EMT or a trauma doctor. So the only other thing I guess you could get would be maybe one of those AEDs but currently they're quite a bit cost prohibitive for personal possession. Yeah. In my budget class. I'm sure there are some of us that can afford it but it's not. And see when we get to when we I want to put that in the in the bucket of like almost like stuff to treat diabetes
Starting point is 00:43:46 Like if you if you have a member of your household who has a particular Medical condition or need you might need to treat you should probably Invest some additional dollars and things that go towards that But somebody with a heart condition. Yeah, but like look at my family 12 year old 42 year old 41 year old nobody with a heart condition that we know about Is it am I saying that there's there's no utility to having an AD? No, but I am saying that before I would spend a not inconsequential amount of money on one There's other things I should probably consider getting that are much more pertinent to my family and our lifestyle.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Yeah, if I recall correctly, they're in the thousands of dollars range, the 15 to $2,500 range. But Nick, if it was you and your wife and let's say y'all are in your 60s and one of y'all has a has had a heart attack in the past, then that couple... I have been trying to convince my grandparents to do exactly that. Because now that couple of thousand dollars is like, okay, now we're in a situation where that couple of thousand dollars might be a reasonable expenditure
Starting point is 00:44:56 because it could save somebody's life. Sure, and realistically, while you can have heart attacks and heart problems at a very young age, chances are there are warning signs or symptoms for that. I mean, it's pretty rare that you have like a 30 year old or a 26 year old have a massive heart attack without some kind of warning sign or some kind of behavior that causes a drug use or whatever.
Starting point is 00:45:22 It's all cost benefit analysis at the end of the day. If you have reason to suspect that there's a higher than average likelihood of that happening, you should probably think about at least consider it. So now here's the question. Here's the thing where I suspect all the internet nerds just got a happy moment because they're like, Oh, they're gonna talk about Instagram cool guy stuff. But I'm actually kind of hoping
Starting point is 00:45:45 that you and I don't agree on all this because that's always where the fun starts. Sure. All right, so different kids, different stuff question mark. So this is just the three things I happen to have in the office because I didn't feel like having to drag everything else out. The top left that is what Stuart continues to call my man person. He's a bastard for calling it that. That is actually a that's kind of like it's the companion to a truck gun. So it stores a couple of PCC mags, couple of
Starting point is 00:46:21 pistol mags for my daily carry. And it has basically an IFAC worth of stuff in it For obvious reasons if I have to if I have to jump out of the truck Because I have a problem to deal with and I have my truck gun, which is a 9 millimeter PCC This thing goes with me and it's all the things I need But it's not a chest rig because I can put it on the back seat of my truck and it doesn't look like It's full of frig freaking magazines and stuff. You know, the top right is just a chest rig that's actually set up for AR mags. And the bag in the
Starting point is 00:46:52 middle is actually my hiking pack. So that's usually has like a radio and it has a has a big Nalgene bottle and it has some mainstay rations but it also has some medical stuff in it for obvious reasons. Because you know, when you walk around the woods for hours on end, it just kind of pays to be able to bandage yourself up if stuff happens. See, raggle fraggle is trying to get on my good side. It's a satchel. Not a man purse. What is a purse, but a fancy satchel.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Let's be honest here. You're fired, Nick. You're not supposed to, you're not supposed to encourage Stuart. He doesn't need encouragement. I will encourage anyone who starts shit in the comments. I knew I could depend on you. Good. So now here's what's in all the inside, all three of those things. And if this looks like mostly the same stuff, it kind of is in a lot of regards, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:43 there's a cat tourniquet in each one of these kits because why wouldn't you have a cat tourniquet there's cohesive bandage in each cheap insurance because why wouldn't you have cohesive bandage in every one of them um there's actually like a vacuum packed israeli or uh israeli bandage in two v's and not in the third and i haven't totally decided if i'm gonna stick okay an Israeli bandage in the in the hiking pack I mean I've kind of got other things to cover other things on that but there's also a hemostat in all three of them and chest seals and cohesive bandage four by fours really the only credit the only difference here is that hiking pack also has trauma shears. And it also has like band aids and band aids and alcohol prep pads because I'm
Starting point is 00:48:34 anticipating being in different situations with a hiking pack where like we might have a little cut or a neck or a branch might scratch you and you just need to deal with it. Whereas those other two kits are really, really more centered around, I have a big gaping hole in a part of my body, I would rather not have a big gaping hole in it needs to be dealt with immediately. So I've got a lot of the same stuff for a lot of those. But then I kind of add a few things for others, depending
Starting point is 00:48:59 on what I think the use case is going to be. Sure. I mean, I, I can understand why you would want to try to save weight and a little bit of space in a hiking kit because man, every ounce you add on your back just makes things harder, makes the hike harder. But I like having those combat dressings or those Israeli dressings in there. Not because I've ever needed them, but just because they are, from what I've seen other
Starting point is 00:49:34 people use them for in wilderness medicine, they're good for other things other than just bandaging. They're a good sturdy strap, if nothing else. We've used them in slings in the past somebody that yeah a sling, broken bone, they can be a pretty decent help to improvise a splint if you need a splint and you don't have one with you. You know it but I you know you guys aren't going on like 12 mile backcountry hikes, right? Ask me that story another time. Oh
Starting point is 00:50:11 dear We'll have to get into that. Tell you what, when I meet my wife this summer ask her about Naka Lulu Falls Watch the look that you will watch the look on her face when you drop that honor. Oh yeah i'm sure i'm sure my wife will bring up and wallow to we went to hen wallow in tennessee and that was a that was supposed to be a three mile out three mile back my gps disagrees heavily with those with those trail postings. Yeah not knuckle who falls was supposed to be a walking trail, a pretty easy walking trail. So I was told it'd be fine in shorts and flip-flops. And then we hung a left instead of a right. And that was the wrong thing to do. Ah, see that there is the key. Ah, see that there is the key. Always knowing where you're going and having a map and a compass with you when you're hiking.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Yes. Well, that was the last time my wife has gotten me to go on a hike without me having closed toed shoes, long pants and some stuff with me. Just, you know, yeah. That yeah, I'm the same way I will I will not go on even a couple mile hike without some form of medical Backup water closed toad shoes. Oh, it's just I forgot to mention the other thing that hiking pack Which is not medical relay, but it's just a mainstay ration
Starting point is 00:51:38 Cuz that's a good call. Yeah backup food snacks little gorp, trail mix, whatever something to keep your energy up because nothing gets people hurt faster hiking than not being in a right state of mind because of either crashing sugar levels or not having enough water. So are they adding a Israeli... Sorry. Other than adding an Israeli banish to this center kit, like... Thoughts. I would like to see at least a second tourniquet on your chest rig and in your truck kit.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Because this is a thing that I have been told by a number of either guys that have been in combat and treated gunshot wounds or a trauma nurse buddy, sometimes especially on bigger gentlemen like yourself and I who have thick legs it takes more than one tourniquet to stop a bleed. This is true and I have not heard of it taking more than four to stop a bleed on a guy's leg But I have heard of it have heard of up to four being used on like a an IED injury Not that you and I are gonna be encountering that but we hope it's Wow, I'd rather not but if you do take one to the leg and
Starting point is 00:53:03 You need to stop a bleed on your leg or your upper thigh, you know, it's you may need that second or possibly even third tourniquet. So I'd like to see at least two. No, that's probably fair. See here while I advance forward. Oh, so I told your work stuff. Yeah. So I told you earlier, like So I told your work stuff. Yeah. So I told you earlier like I'm not showing you all the bank this is going in because it has my organization's crest about this tall on it and I'm really trying not to aggravate my employer with my extracurricular activities. But this is the stuff that's now packed up to go to work with me for obvious reasons. And it should look pretty familiar because it's mostly the same as what's
Starting point is 00:53:47 in a lot of those other kits. You know, it's it's a hemostat. It's four by fours. It's chest seals. It's a roll of gauze. It's cohesive bandage. But the one thing I wanted to point out, because you remember earlier, we were talking about your your sterile strips and how that they were paper
Starting point is 00:54:00 wrapped and the humidity got to them. So you probably see the Band-Aids and that big pack of stuff. Everything's vacuum packed. So here's the thing. If all of you out there are listening, and if you don't have a vacuum pack or a vacuum bagger, you should have one because on top of being able
Starting point is 00:54:20 to like vacuum pack meat and fill up a chest freezer, which is I highly recommend for lots of reasons. Seriously good investment. You can use it to make battle packs of ammo. You can use it like this like all of all of my stuff that goes in any of my medical kits, any of my IFAQs, it's all vacuum bagged. Because now that whole IFAQ can get dropped into a bucket of water and soaked and all the stuff inside stays dry.
Starting point is 00:54:47 And the only thing I encourage you to do if you go this route, because you could probably imagine how aggravating it'd be to have your life-saving equipment vacuum bagged away and you not have a knife or a pair of scissors to open it up with. So what I do with all these is that I actually cut slits on... Pre-notch. So what I do with all these is that I actually cut slits on pre notch pre notch
Starting point is 00:55:07 outside of where the the the the thermoform seam is but I notch all four corners so that Anywhere no matter what orientation you grab that thing if you grab a quarter to rip it open with your bare hands I do that on every one of them. I don't vacuum pack anything super, super, super tight, like to get all the air out of it. I just kind of like, you know, enough to get the puffiness down and kind of like start to compress things and then I seal it up right there. And then I've got a little medicine cup full of single use superglue tubes because they come in handy for all sorts of stuff. But like if you have a big old gash that you probably need a stitcher to for, one of those will seal you up. It's going to burn like hell. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:55:57 But it'll do the job. You know, it's really not as bad if you go with, like we were talking about before the show, there are two kinds of superglue. There's the gel type and then there's that really thin runny type the gel type will sit on top of that cut You hold it shut have your co-worker or your buddy Spray a little that gel over the top of it or get it on your finger pinch it together and then rub it on there Do it fast so you don't glue your finger to your wound whoops But yeah, trust me done that
Starting point is 00:56:20 Whoops. But yeah, trust me, done that. That gel type will sit on top instead of going down into your wound. So it doesn't tend to sting as much. But, Raggle has a question. What's your opinion on the medical kits that Academy has in the wide waterproof card holders? I'm not familiar with them.
Starting point is 00:56:43 I have no opinion. I would have to look into them. I will look into them. I'll look into them. I will say that like I have exactly one medical kit in this house that was commercially purchased that I didn't assemble myself and it's... REI has some great ones. I'm not gonna disparage all of them as a general rule I will say that like you need to be very Particular about buying any pre-made medical kit you need to know what the contents are and you need to make sure that the contents are of decent quality because
Starting point is 00:57:19 Everyone most people have had that experience of buying like a hundred piece medical kit and it's 99 band-aids and one piece of gauze And then I nine band-aids are good. Yeah, you're gonna need those but you're overpaying. Yeah, so Generally, that's I mean like just recently to build out this kit for work. I literally like I ordered three things I and it by the way the the cart with shipping with up being 30, or ended up being like 80 fricking bucks because hemostats and genuine cat charting kits are not cheap. Worth it.
Starting point is 00:57:53 But I needed nothing else to build that kit out. I had it all here. Like I have a whole bin full of fricking co-bang and four by fours and all that stuff. The only thing I really needed was another quick clod, another set of chesseels, and another tourniquet and everything else I had in bulk. Yeah, you know, anytime you're gonna buy any pre-made kit, be it medical, be it the bug out bags you see people selling online, know what's in it, research the quality,
Starting point is 00:58:26 and try to find out if it's actually a good value. North American Medical, I believe, is a company that is a licensed reseller of Cat Turner Kits. They do medical kits from what I've seen. They're very good. Dark Angel Medical does a very excellent number of kits. They're fantastic. I'm not familiar with many other ones. So I haven't in the name of disclosure, I haven't purchased from them. But I've talked to people that have Refuge Medical. I have not heard bad things about. I'm not familiar with them. Also, um, I want wanna say it's medical gear outfitters.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Could be you remember a skinny medic off of YouTube right? Yes. I've met first of all met him but I also we know mutual people through like firearms radio network. And I purchased from him a handful of times haven Haven't had a bet. Yeah, his stuff is good. Well, he's also but again, do your research. I mean, he's an EMT. Yeah. So. Do your research. All right, Nick. So talk us through.
Starting point is 00:59:38 We've got to get a couple of things here. That is that belt that you see up top. There is what I wear when I go to pistol shoots, pistol competitions or say when I went to the shotgun class with Andrew I was wearing that exact belt. I was using the 30 round AR pouches combined with shotgun cards to run through Treks class. You'll see a couple of things on there. I'll have my pistol holster. I have a couple of mag pouches for pistols. The mag pouch is for rifles or shotguns. Dump pouch. Two tourniquets on the belt. These are these tourniquets and then a medical uh basically like a trauma kit next to it.
Starting point is 01:00:18 The two tourniquets the reason why I have them kind of in the middle of that belt you'll notice is that I can reach them with both hands from either side of my body. So, you know, they're not all on the right side where I wouldn't be able to necessarily reach. It's kind of in the middle. It's you're not really going to sit down and drive a vehicle around with this. But the picture below it and to the left is that medical kit opened up. It is a gunshot wound only kit. It is a trauma kit. You know, if you, there's a chest, I think two chest seals in there,
Starting point is 01:00:52 a set of gloves, a wound pack dressing, combat bandage, and then I think a couple of the coagulant gauzes, the hemostatic gauzes and trauma shears. That is only if things go as wrong as they possibly can on a firearms range. The kit next to it, that's my EDC backpack, that comes with me most places I go. It's very similar to like a hiking medical kit. There is a few different over-the-counter medications
Starting point is 01:01:27 for headaches, antidiarrheals, allergy medications like Benadryl in case somebody's having an anaphylactic reaction. There are two hemostatic agents in there. There is a, oh, that was the other thing I wanted you to put in yours. You don't have any Mylar blankets. You don't have any emergency blankets.
Starting point is 01:01:50 I don't carry them in my hiking pack. Maybe I should. I think you should. Yeah, one of the most common environmental injuries you see hiking is either hypo or hyperthermia. And you can never underestimate like so. So the rescue blanket I have in here is not the cheap little shitty foil ones. Okay. This one is one of the better, one of the thicker ones that costs quite a bit more instead
Starting point is 01:02:20 of a couple bucks or like 15 bucks, but it's got a blaze orange panel on the backside of it. So the entire blanket, not only is it one of the Mylar heat reflective blankets, but it's more durable because it's got a backing on it. And it can be an excellent signaling device. Because if you're waving a six foot blaze orange panel, people are going to be able to see you for miles. This is true. Other than that, in that backpack, in different pockets, they're not visible in that picture,
Starting point is 01:02:50 are two of the combat dressings and a pair of tourniquets. I personally think two on my battle belt, class belt, whatever you guys want to call it, is good. I have another two tourniquets on my battle belt class belt whatever you guys want to call it is good I have another two tourniquets on my plate carrier if I'm doing a class where it's going to be live fire all the time it with people I don't know I usually will have all four tourniquets with me and the armor on it's a little more uncomfortable but I've had negligent discharges occur in classes I have been in.
Starting point is 01:03:26 If you guys in the Patreon group have heard the story, it was a police range safety officer finger fucking the trigger on his AR when he thought it was on safe and popped a round off and it almost hit himself in the foot. And then when the instructor was trying to get him off the range and to disarm himself, he said, No, the gun malfunction, it's not my fault. He popped the second round off into the ground in between where him and the instructor were standing. You know, someone remind me why I get such a horrible migraine whenever somebody says only police officers should have guns. They're trained. They're professionals.
Starting point is 01:04:10 Well, the problem is that man got complacent with safety because he thought he knew better and he thought he did he was better and then he began to argue that he was still better after proving he was not you know it can be anybody anybody can have a negligent discharge if they become negligent yes but the ones that beat their chest the loudest fall the furthest you know i have always tried to be as safety conscious as I possibly can while in firearms classes while I am handling firearms in general because there there's no second chances with that stuff. There there is not. You know years and years ago me and a buddy were shooting together and he made the comment that I was paranoid about safety.
Starting point is 01:05:09 And I, you know, I had to respond to with, I'm like, yes, I've also never shot. I've also never shot myself. And I like to keep that record. I mean, can you imagine the amount of the shit you would get from everybody that knows you, if you, the safety guy shot himself by accident? Let's just say, you remember that conversation we were having at the very beginning of the show where I said that I am truly, to this day, terrified of table saws and chainsaws and I own both and use them, but they legitimately scare the hell out of me. Well, they should. They're some of the most destructive tools that most people will interact.
Starting point is 01:05:42 And for these same reasons, I believe that a little, a little, a little bit of fear around firearms is actually probably pretty healthy. Cause like let's- A healthy respect for the power of the tools. Is how my grandfather always words it. Yeah. I always call it, healthy respect for the consequences of screwing up.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Yeah. Yeah. That's a, that's a good way to put it. I mean, and that's, and realistically, I mean, if all things go perfectly, you'll never need any of this medical kit. But it's a pretty rare year that goes by where you don't need some of your medical kit. Okay, but let me, let me, let me recant what you just said. There's a there's a pretty near zero chance you're not going to need some of the stuff that's on this list that ought to be in your medicine cabinet. Yeah. I mean, hey, you never know. Miracle years can happen. Maybe you don't get sick at all. Yeah. Have you ever had one of those?
Starting point is 01:06:42 Yeah, actually once in during didn't need a bandaid. Band-aids Yes, didn't get sick. Okay, but that's a hazard of my work environment. Every single thing I touch is a razor blade that's either heavier or stronger than me. So yeah, well, I guess that's just kind of why I phrase it that way. Like, you know, like, yes, I have an eye like take my truck, for example, and I didn't even think to get pictures of any of that because it's not here in my office rose quick at hand. But like, yes, I have and I like take my truck for example And I didn't even think to get pictures of any of that because it's not here in my office Rose quick at hand But like yes, I have I have two tourniquets in the truck. I have an IFAC in the truck
Starting point is 01:07:13 I've also got a whole like Tupperware bin behind one of the seats. That's all boo-boo stuff It's band-aids and it's sure or it's four by fours and it's gauze and it's Tylenol and ibuprofen and Benadryl and it's band aids and it's sure for its four by fours and it's gauze and it's Tylenol and ibuprofen and Benadryl and it's all this stuff. Guess what? Guess what I've used in the truck more than anything else. He's Tylenol and bandage sure as hell is not the cat tourniquets and I'm whooping out every time somebody gets a splinter. It's honestly mundane stuff. That's a good call. Yeah. Well, thank God that we're not whooping out turn rates on the wife and daughter
Starting point is 01:07:46 But you know, I guess that's just kind of ideally you never will have to ideally I hope I never do But that's also why like III look I line all this stuff up together as a cautionary note For the people that are on either end of this Scenario for the people who have all the high facts and all the tourniquets and all that stuff, but they're down to their last box of band-aids and that doesn't seem to be a problem for them, and for the people that are on the opposite end of things and think, well I'm never gonna need a tourniquet, I'm never gonna need chest seals, I'm never gonna need any of that, and I'm like, I hope to God you're right. And the rotten part of it is that
Starting point is 01:08:22 I am quicker to agree with the person who doesn't believe they'll ever need the tourniquets Because the odds are if they have a well-stocked medicine cabinet, they have everything they need But what if they don't? What if they need more? You know it Fortunately, you know you had that medical incident at work recently that kind of got you reevaluating everything with going back to work. Everybody here knows that I work in a blue collar trade. I'm a machinist and a lot of the things that we work with could seriously may more kill
Starting point is 01:08:55 you. In the time that I have been at my current job, we have had one serious injury and that was caused by a person standing up on a table wrenching on things when they should not have been. There's no reason to be standing on a table applying torque to an object. Why? Because he got careless and overconfident and exactly what you would imagine happened, he fell off the table and broke his arm pretty severely.
Starting point is 01:09:29 And he has never fully recovered from that because he was an older guy when he did it. And realistically, that accident could have been prevented and should have been prevented. There were other people in the building. Other people saw him doing it and nobody said anything. And that is a failure on all of us. and nobody said anything and that is a failure on all of us but we were able to take care of him get him treatment fantastic there's been one I think one other serious accident at this workplace and that resulted in a guy losing a hand because of a falling object yeah big. Big things, heavy things, sharp things. That's machining. And if you are not careful, it will catch you eventually. You know, I
Starting point is 01:10:19 very recently got work in the last couple of years to upgrade our medical kit at work and a big part of it was there was a few accidents at some other local shops that caused some pretty traumatic bleeding injuries not anything to do with us I'm not gonna get into it because I don't know the situation I just do know that they ended up using a tourniquet on the guy and got them to invest in four tourniquets for the shop. If you work in any kind of industrial setting and your company does not have something like tourniquets or CPR equipment or like a backboard for evacuating people out of an area, might be time to start pushing back.
Starting point is 01:11:06 Because you and I, we have our medical kits. I have a medical kit in my toolbox at work. But if I'm on the other end of the facility and someone is hurt way the hell over there, I might not find out about it until it's too late to help. But if everybody in the building knows that there is medical equipment in place A place B place C around the building just like fire extinguishers,
Starting point is 01:11:32 then maybe we can make it less bad. But see that when it does happen. But see that right there was the impetus for me like putting together this little kit for my work bag was because I have made comments in the past and I'm hoping now that I have a bit more seniority maybe I can get the ear of some senior leadership and like get them to see my point of view but years ago I was little mister nobody nobody knew who I was and they pretty well blew me off but like I've expressed concerns about the fact that we have a facility of 600 people and we have one nurse and I don't believe Like I haven't I haven't had the chance like quiz around what she has available to her
Starting point is 01:12:20 But I know that the majority of what she does is hand out Tylenol and band-aids her, but I know that the majority of what she does is hand out Tylenol and band-aids. Like I just don't know. I mean to be expected to be expected for a white collar office environment, but you know, this is this is the same facility or the same organization that does an annual active shooter training. And my point of view has always been if we're gonna if we're gonna literally train the staff to be prepared for a person coming in here with an AK 47 and shooting the place up like a maniac Then why are we not going to have a discussion about having?
Starting point is 01:12:50 Stopped the bleed kids and turn a kids and training some of training a portion of the staff Not a lot of them you could teach 5% of 600 people how to use turning kids and put a Couple of them around the facility and that right there would be a big step in the right direction as far as saving people's lives. But those and here's the thing with the last time we had that active shooter training, the instructor said the exact same thing to seniorly said, y'all really should consider putting a portion of the staff through through stop the bleed class. And he mentioned that class
Starting point is 01:13:25 specifically. And he also, it's a fantastic and he also said, and y'all should equip a portion of that same portion of the staff with tourniquets. Because if something bad happens in here, y'all are not going to get EMTs in here for 20 or 30 minutes until they clear the scene. And best case best case best case 20 or 30 minutes. That's if the police find the shooter immediately and have the building cleared within minutes. We all saw how long it took you Valdi to clear to clear the school.
Starting point is 01:13:53 Now to be fair, we also have on site security. So you know, we've got a couple things moving in the right direction on that. Odds are better. Yes. But this is the reason why I have my own kit in my work backpack because I have a serious concern around the gap between what I think is an appropriate level of trauma care in the event of a really bad day and what I believe the facility is prepared to offer. and I hate to say it this way because this would really upset some of my
Starting point is 01:14:25 co-workers to hear this that stuff self-aid I'm not saying I wouldn't use it to save somebody else but I can promise you that if I'm hurt and you're hurt I'm going home to see my wife and kid that's the way it has to be right no no it absolutely does have to be that way because number one even if you had enough to treat two people it does you it does them no good if you bleed out trying to help them yeah so it's same rule as oxygen masks on an airplane get yours on first then worry about the next person yeah because if you pass halfway through what good are you yeah I mean I hate to I hate to be very like dispassionate about it,
Starting point is 01:15:08 but at the end of the day, like your medical equipment, I would say with very few exceptions has to be self aid only. If I had to pick between me and my wife, I'd probably roll the dice on myself and take care of her first. But I prioritize her well her wellbeing above my own. But the number of people in this world that I prioritize their wellbeing above my own,
Starting point is 01:15:33 pretty much stops and ends with people that live in this household. Well, they're your responsibility. Yeah. That's really what it comes down to. I'm sorry, but if you're another adult and not under my direct care, you're your responsibility first.
Starting point is 01:15:52 And if I can help you, I'll try. Oh, I got a thumbs up from Gillian. Looks like I might have got the wife's approval on that one. That's good. I might have got the wife's approval on that one. That's good. All right. Well, is there anything else to chuck in here before we roll this one out, man? I mean, like we will we will be talking about medical something
Starting point is 01:16:15 or the other every so often on the show from now to Kingdom come because it's freaking important. And it frankly comes up all the time. Like, you know, I'd love to get a vet on here for veterinary emergency medicine for your pet. For a moment, I had a moment about like, what do you mean you wish you had a vet on the show? But then I realized we're talking about the veterinarian, you know, furry, but not not beard furry. No, veterinarian because look, a lot of us have pets. A lot of us have dogs, cats, whatever. And realistically, they are part of our family and they are under our care.
Starting point is 01:16:52 You know, tourniquets that work on me don't work on animals as well because their limbs are different. Their bodies are different than I will say for a lot of years. Rats tourniquets were recommended by several guys I knew who were dog handlers in the army. But I, I haven't looked into them because I don't currently have a dog. Poor thing. The elastic tourniquets. No, but I've heard that they actually now they make tourniquets specifically for dogs. I'd be shocked if they didn't given the number of canines in the military and well, and that's kind of the thing of it is that like, you know, for a lot of
Starting point is 01:17:24 years, the army kind of resort to rats tourniquets because they all we all knew cats turn cat tourniquets don't work really well for dog limbs and they're too big rats tourniquets when those came out on the market like a lot of people had issues around using them on people but they ended up working really well on dogs so I talked to several dog handlers that were deployed to mostly Afghanistan a couple in Iraq who said they work really well on dogs and that's all they carry for their animals. But now I understand that their specific tourniquets meant just
Starting point is 01:17:55 for dogs and it's probably the military and law enforcement working dogs that have pushed development of all that. More than likely. Yeah, I mean, and look, that's a great military contract for the first guy that invents the dog tourn than likely. Yeah, I mean, and look, that's a great military contract if you're the first guy that invents the dog tourniquet. Yeah, no, but you're right. I mean, if anybody knows a veterinarian out there that would like to hang out with two weirdos and talk about stuff for an evening, I'd love an introduction. I just, I don't know anyone who would fit that bill. who would fit that bill. Yeah unfortunately I don't have a really great relationship with a vet. I'll ask around. I might know a guy that knows a
Starting point is 01:18:33 guy kind of deal but maybe somebody in our audience knows a veterinarian or has a family member who's a veterinarian. Maybe one of you Moonlights is a veterinarian. There you go. That'd be great. Alright. Well, let's go ahead and punt this one out the door. I don't know what we're going to talk about next week. Monday is Presidents Day. And there's been so much fricking insanity
Starting point is 01:18:56 coming out of Washington DC. We could probably fricking kill a whole episode talking about Doge and the Senate and the Senate confirmations and God only knows what else. Oh, Raggle Fraggle had a question. He's trying to sneak in here at the very end. I emailed Matt. I haven't heard back. I'm going to email him again just to see if I can get his attention. But if you can get his attention, ask him to check his junk folder, because I might have got I might have got it relevant to the spam.
Starting point is 01:19:29 Or if he's like or if he's like me, there's 400 other emails in there that he's just bulk deleting. Don't be don't don't pull a Nick, please. Hey, man, if if if junk selling companies would stop emailing me, then I'd pay more attention to my email But it's like getting the mail at this point 95% of it is credit cards and scams That's so freakin sad, but probably pretty true All right matter of fact podcast heading out the door. Keep the red stuff in the body. Keep yourselves upright and
Starting point is 01:20:02 If your medicine cabinet doesn't look like ours, you should probably go attend to that before you have an owie talk to you later guys. Bye night So Thanks for watching!

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