The Prepper Broadcasting Network - Matter of Facts: Pieces and Parts of AR's
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Welcome back to Matter of Facts, Phil and Andrea are back behind the mic.
Thank God we managed to make our schedules line up.
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I have no freaking clue.
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Y'all are all anonymous.
Y'all could all be AI chatbots as far as I know.
But before we get to topic, two topics actually, we first need to talk about Prepper Camp because my co-host is a rock star and reminded me that I have to do the administrative work before we go to play with our friends.
And I suck at that.
So, Prepper Camp is coming up next September. If you're curious about details, it's www.preppercamp.com.
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Anyway, but run over to PrepperCamp.com, check out information on it, look at the past class schedule.
If you're curious, you can actually check out on our YouTube channel.
I have an entire playlist set up for all the interviews we shot this past year at PrepperCamp 2023.
We did a morning show every morning.
We interviewed a lot of guests.
We interviewed a couple of show
goers quite a few other vendors and subject matter experts it was a really great time and
andrew and i've been there what five six times i think sure i think i've i think you've been there
four times and i went five or five and six i don't remember i know i skipped a year i don't know
because of stuff uh because of vacation, stuff like that.
But, yeah, no, I mean, it's a fun time.
And Rick and Jane have, I mean, and the whole Perfect Camp family has become that.
I mean, it's just we look forward to seeing them every year.
I know we got Rick on last year.
We need to get Jane on this year and uh well i say this year but 2024
but uh yeah no get over there check it out uh there's a lot of cool classes they have not
announced really anything yet just because it's so new and rick is uh organizing everything but
it's the last weekend in september so the 27th 28th and 29. Yeah, I know it's a lot of fun.
So get your tickets and come hang out.
Yep.
And if you're going to go get your tickets now, also consider camping out there with us.
If camping is not your thing, they have a couple of small A-frame tiny houses on the property.
They have Airbnbs in the neighborhood.
I think within a half hour, they have a couple of hotels.
Like, there's not a lot of reasons not to consider coming.
Just be unaware. It is in Saluda, North Carolina. couple of hotels like there's not a lot of reasons not to consider coming just not being aware it is
in saluta north carolina if that's a haul for you it's a haul for the two of us too but i mean we
both think it's worth going it's definitely worth checking out hey ben swanson so first thing on the
docket the disarmatards are big mad right now. They're angry.
Oh, no, no, no.
They have passed up angry all the way into righteous
anger. They are big, big mad.
Well, their plan
is backfiring on them
tremendously, and it's hilarious because
they're stupid.
They're dumb. The whole
idea of disarmament
and the whole gun buyback program is just laughable.
Yep.
So the long and the short of this is somebody found out that in Flint, Michigan, where they had an assault weapon, they did a gun buyback.
I guess the thought of the community was that, you know, this was a good
thing. This could take guns off the streets. We were going to win a victory for gun violence and
protect our communities and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. However, what actually
happened is that the firearms were collected by a private company. And supposedly the only thing that was destroyed was the receivers,
and the rest of the parts were all packaged up and resold as parts kits or as singles.
Now, for anybody that this sounds a little odd to them, I've watched lists to a couple of our content creators.
I've looked into it. Apparently, this is a fairly standard process.
A lot of FFLs offer a service to destroy a firearm. Like if you have
a firearm, you just don't want anymore and you need it legally destroyed. You pay the fee,
they'll destroy the firearm. And what a lot of these FFLs do out of the goodness of their hearts
and, you know, pure and simple capitalism is they will offer to the city and the police department
or whatever entity is doing this gun buyback.
We won't charge you for the destruction of the firearms. We'll destroy the receivers. We get to
keep what's left. And obviously, because, you know, public entities love getting stuff for free,
they bite at this deal. And then what happens is the receiver, let's take an AR-15, for example,
the receiver, the lower, the register part, the actual firearm per the legalities, that is destroyed.
And everything else is in a firearm.
So that business takes those parts and resells them.
Now, this apparently is extremely standard procedure and has been standard procedure for a very long time.
And yet, the disarmatards are big mad
because those firearms are being broken down
and potentially being rebuilt.
And, of course, some of the articles I've read
make this sound like, you know,
like you could take the parts that are left
and just conjure up another gun
in like five minutes with no extra parts.
Like, they're kind of obfuscating the fact
that you need another registered lower lower and that is not exactly something you can just like chunk out of a piece of plywood
you know i'm saying like there's a little bit more involved to it than that well they're just
they're they're mad i mean none of them nobody they really don't know anything about firearms
as it is and then they turn around and they have stuff like this and then they
make comments uh you know like the comment that they make about uh being able to read
basically rebuild the gun from the parts kits and stuff like that like
they're they're completely false like yeah they're you're you're going online you're buying a parts
kit somebody or i'm buying a parts kit or whatever it or I'm buying a parts kit or whatever it is. I'm buying a parts kit. I'm buying a, a trigger assembly. I'm buying whatever it is.
I'm buying the parts and the, the, the frame or the receiver rather is, was destroyed. Okay.
That's technically, it's legally, that is the legal firearm is the, is the, uh, the lower
receiver that gets destroyed. Everything else gets packaged up and even
in this article the guy the the guy from the company even says he's like that's how
because like a lot of times like the they pair with the like the city or the police department
whatever and the they don't want to pay him any money to do all this stuff so they're trying to
do it for free or get out of it for free the The city isn't everything. So they're like, well, how do you expect us to make money?
You know, we can't just on hopes and dreams and pay our employees and stuff.
So that's, this is how they make money, uh, their money back basically from doing all
this crap.
And so, yeah, I don't know.
I really don't blame them at all.
Uh, and I don't know.
It, it's ridiculous that, uh, it's funny me because, yeah, the anti-gun crowd is now crying in their boots.
And that's the thing.
This company, Gun Busters, I think is what it was called,
they are not the only company that does this.
There's a good handful or so that pair with law enforcement and do all this stuff.
So it's going to be really, really interesting because now who are they going to go with? And who are they going to pair with law enforcement and do all this stuff so it's gonna be really really interesting because
now who are they gonna go with and who are they gonna pair with i'm personally surprised that
it's even making it to the uh the disposal company because i figured i mean if i was on
the police department and my department was having a gun buyback program i'd be swooping in and i'd be freaking buying some guns or taking them or doing
whatever so i don't know i don't know i just i personally find this hilarious because like it
it firmly demonstrates once again that the people that are advocating for these policies do not
fundamentally understand what the hell they're asking for like they they they think in their tiny little brain that like there's like an enormous paper shredder right there and when a gun gets turned it goes
into the paper shredder and it comes out as dust and that's just that's not fundamentally how that
works i mean this harkens back to that you remember this has happened on social media a
couple of times where somebody will be
like in the name of gun violence i'm going to destroy this evil ar and the first thing you do
is ban saw the barrel off commit a felony yeah but they commit a felony we see that but they're
so anti-gun that they're in the group so they're not going to get it's not going to come back on
them but true i guarantee you if one of us were to do it and post it and say, oh, it's for doing this, this, and this, I guarantee you we'd be having our door knocked on.
You'd go to prison, and I'd go just for knowing you.
I mean, that's how that would work out.
I know that.
But I guess what I'm saying is it's the same kind of thing it's a fundamental complete lapse of understanding of the laws
surrounding the very thing you're demanding be legislated out of existence like these people just
they don't get it they don't understand they're all right now i mean read through that article
they're incensed at this idea that like what do you mean legally this one little part is the only
thing it's a firearm and i'm like those laws have existed for a very, like, since before I was born.
Maybe before our parents were born.
This is not new.
This isn't a new thing.
This has been this way since I can remember.
So this idea that, like, what do you mean it's this way?
Well, it's been this way for a long time.
You could have Googled it.
Like, what do you mean it's this way?
Well, it's been this way for a long time.
You could have Googled it.
There was never going to be a situation where somebody volunteered to just torch cut these things into slag for free.
That's not how the world works.
I just, I kind of feel like this is manufactured outrage.
I mean, I think it's hilarious, but there are some people that are very upset about it to which i reply good in this in this uh article there's a quote from in spartanburg south
carolina where a taxpayer funded buyback in may collected 128 firearms that were given to
gunbusters local news stories reported that they would be destroyed at no cost to the city
police chief alonzo thompson said he he was aware that Gunbuster sold most of the parts
rather than crushing everything, but felt that was acceptable
as long as the company complied with the ATF regulations.
And he says, quote, but I understand the concerns,
and those who might feel they're less than informed.
He said, adding, my priority is to remove these guns
from our community yeah that i feel like that's the uh that was the police chief's middle finger
to the the people who are crying so i don't know it'll be interesting to see what happens i mean
i've always known gun buyback programs are a waste of time, waste of taxpayer dollars.
And, I mean, I laughed at this nearly as hard as I laugh at when people,
because it says no questions asked,
someone will either print off like a dozen receivers, lower receivers, and hand them in, or they'll go and they'll make a firearm out of
just random crap and turn it in because no question asked questions that questions asked
here you go and uh yeah that's when the people take advantage of it and actually like
make the program look stupid which it is like that's what's funny well i mean i think it might have been houston but there was
somebody who like they they 3d printed like eight ar-15 lowers and sold them i can't remember the
profit margin was it was something crazy something like 15 000 profit what it cost them what it cost
them in filament versus what they sold them to the gun buyback for.
And the very next day, the gun buyback had amended its rules forever not to accept 3D-printed firearms.
And then the question was, but these are ghost guns.
Should you pay extra for those?
It's just hilarious. It is so much fun to watch these people get trolled because their position is nonsensical and it's not hard to show that it's nonsensical, but it is entertaining. It's a cheap thrill.
Yeah. But speaking of guns.
building AR-15s because, you know, you and I have built a couple and I think it's a process that like most people would really benefit from and enjoy indulging in, even if you only ever build
one. I do feel like there are certain personalities, like if you're the kind of person that
doesn't like to measure stuff, you might not be an AR builder. Or if you're the kind of person that
treats all problems as something to be hammered in submission, then
working with small forged receivers might not be your thing. However, for the average person that's
even remotely mechanically inclined, building an AR-15 is not hard. It's harder to change your oil
in some cases on a modern car that is built an AR-15. And there's tons of information out there
despite the best efforts of the disarmament
regime. It's not hard. It's easy. It doesn't take a lot of money and tools and everything. But I
thought Andrew and I can have a conversation about like, what kinds of parts do the two,
have the two of us use or the two of us recommend or the two of us prefer? And I think like the
simplest way to do this is going to be to take an AR-15 from its butt plate to its
muzzle and talk through like maybe some of the decisions we've made in a couple of builds.
And in the while I'm doing that I'm also going to be clacking away at a keyboard because I'm
going to take some notes and I think what I'm going to do is put this into a blog article
on mofpodcast.com. So by the you're listening to this, give it a couple of days
and I'll probably have this up on the website
just in case you want a reference guide
and this is by no means all inclusive
it's just stuff Andrew and I have personal experience with
that I feel like we can recommend
and there will be no banners
because I wasn't forward thinking enough to
banner every last part of this
but I feel like if the two of us need a list to talk about an AR 15 component
wise intelligently,
we have different problems.
We're not that inebriated.
So,
so stocks,
I mean,
it's like the most basic bitch AR builder thing.
I'm not gonna lie.
I like Magpul.
It's frigging cheap.
It works.
Most of their stuff is fairly well thought out.
Although I will admit that some of their stocks,
I think are like get,
they,
they venture slightly into hype beast territory,
but like,
I don't know.
I feel like it's a good place to start.
And usually it's pretty available.
Like Magpul is really good about keeping their products stocked.
You know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. No, Magpul is really good about keeping their products stocked you know i'm saying
no magpul is my go-to is uh usually the go-to for the stocks i also i'm a fan of uh
bcm uh some of their stocks uh just because like some of the weight uh and some of and that's the
thing is uh some of the way they've made like the cheek rests and some of the risers that are on them and how thick it is, you know, when you're lining up a shot or whatever.
Like, I don't know.
There's pros and cons of both.
I mean, they're generally the same thing.
You can only reinvent the wheel so many times.
But I would say, yeah, BCM or and and i have another one it's called the minimalist stock and
it's basically just an l oh yeah i can't think of the name of it off the top of my head but uh
it's just it's just an l like uh basic you know and it's it's very minimalist it's lightweight i
really i really enjoy i really like that one but yeah magpul is uh is my go-to yeah i know exactly the stock you're talking about i
can't think of the manufacturer to save my life somebody raggle fraggle just said mft yeah it is
mft it's a minimalist yeah i i'll be honest like i'm not i'm never gonna argue against a person
who's like weight conscious on an ar-15 because you know you can make a pretty we both know from
experience you can make a freaking heavy ar-15 in a hurry when you start decorating it with stuff but I will say
that like from my perspective I don't think I would spend an a premium amount of money to save
weight on a buttstock only because it's in direct contact with your body, and it is at what is almost always the lighter end of the firearm.
So it's one of those situations where, yes, if you make it lighter, the whole weapon is lighter,
but you also tend to shift the balance point further towards the muzzle, which is the wrong direction, in my opinion.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like, I'm not saying don't do it.
I'm just saying that if you could save a pound of barrel or you could say
or a pound of hand guard or you could save a pound of stock i would save the pound at the heavy end
personally yeah no i mean it's uh mission first tactical that's what mft stands for sorry yeah
no it uh it yeah magpul you can't go wrong magpul uh just and iul. I do like their new lineup that they have coming out.
It seems like it's beefier and it's just well-made stuff and at a reasonable price.
That's the thing.
I like BCM, but if you think about price, the quality of the product with the price,
I'd say just hands down Magpul.
Yeah.
So slide detour, pistol grip, same thing, Magpul?
Yeah, Magpul.
They're K2, I believe it is.
It's the Magpul K2.
I really like the grip angle, the overall feel of it, how thick it is.
It just fits in my hand really well.
And that's what's nice is they do have different angles, grip angles that you can get.
But, yeah, the K2 is my go-to.
I think I have that on all my airs.
Yeah, I actually have, I don't remember what the other one is called.
It's not the K2.
I have their other one that is at more of like an M16A2 angle. It's a little more
angled. I've got that on actually this fixed stock AR that's right behind me because that's a
M16A2 length stock. So on a longer fixed stock, I find that the more extreme pistol grip angle
really doesn't bother me.
It's actually more comfortable in a lot of ways,
especially if you're shooting off of a rest, off of a barricade,
out of the prone, something like that.
Like very late 90s, early 2000s, when I went through base training,
the way we were trained to use M16s,
that style of shooting really isn't bothered by that longer fixed stock
and the pistol grip angle.
But I will agree with you wholeheartedly that for shorter barrels, for more upright shooting, for more dynamic shooting, the K2 is so much more comfortable.
God almighty, so much more comfortable.
Just to not have your wrist cranked up into this angle.
You know what I'm saying?
It just feels so much better.
Yeah, and the other thing I do, like Benjamin Swanson,
he just pointed it out, that, yeah, the K2s,
what's nice about the Magpul is, well, the K2s,
and it's a lot of the Magpul grips, but mostly just the MOE K2s and stuff,
they have the storage spot in
the back in the bottom so you can uh i've i i've seen people uh wrap up a uh spare parts kit like
a spring kit uh and and tuck in there i've they they do sell i mean on their website they sell a
system for uh like the like a little bit of lube or something like that oil uh basically uh to throw
in there so yeah i don't know uh snacks i mean if you want to skittles some skittles or i don't know
pick your poison i guess but uh actually in the pistol grip all anytime i have storage in the
pistol grip i only keep one thing in there and that's batteries. Yeah. With my thing, the thing with that is, and that's what Ragafraggle said,
was flashlight batteries or just spare batteries.
You just got to be careful because you don't want them rattling around.
So you got to make sure that you maybe wrap them in something like a cloth
or something that takes up that spare space.
A scrap of an old T-shirt is perfect.
And so that's really the only thing I t-shirt is perfect and so that's
that's that that's really the only thing i would recommend is um really just throw it in there if
you put anything in there wrap it up because the last thing you want to do is have something
rattling around and then especially if something's going on and you have to be a little bit quieter
uh then yeah you don't want something rattling around and uh and making some noise because the smallest noise at night goes a long ways so yeah uh i guess uh buffer tube spring and
buffer weight might as well just clump those all together i i don't care personally like i don't
have a preference to me it's like whatever whatever i hate to say whatever's cheapest
but whatever is cheapest that seems like it won't snap in half the first time you mortar it into the ground is what I'm content to go with.
Yeah, I mean, the thing is, though, is with AR, with the AR-15 platform, it's different with AR-10 because there's not one with uh with ar10s and stuff but like ar15s if you get just straight
up just the when it if it says like mil spec i mean that's just a military standards and it's
good i've never had any issues with anything i've ever gotten that said mil spec next to it
just a generic uh spring or buffer i've never had any issues however that
being said uh the one system i did buy i bought from voltor uh their a5 uh buffer system which is
uh basically it's a spring their their carbine buffer and uh their buffer tube. And, uh, and yeah, it was in that. Yeah, that was it. And, uh, it,
I really like it. Uh, it, their system, it's a little bit more expensive. Uh, but from my
understanding from reading on doing research on it, when I bought it and then just my overall
thoughts of it, of shooting both side by side, you really don't notice too much with it but i do notice with the voltor i
do notice like slight recoil uh reduction and also that and i did not really even notice i've
never noticed this but doing research on it uh it's called uh bolt bounce and basically what
that is is when you're shooting the bolt comes back ejects the round when it comes forward uh
if you do slow motion which it's quick
and that's why you can never see it but it bounces so if you have a a weaker spring or anything like
that sometimes it'll hit and then that bc or the the bolt carrier group will actually hit and kind
of come back a little bit and it'll bounce and so they're the videos i've been watching that were
side by side like people
you're at they're actually getting more shots off faster with the voltor system versus just a stock
a stock mil spec but at the end of the day like i said never had any issues with mil spec i've
never seen any i've never seen any cause or any issues with the whole bolt bounce i've never seen
any issues with that but that's just volt Voltura hands down is my go-to
if I want to spend the extra money,
but usually just Mil-Spec.
Yeah.
Now, how do you feel about having a monkey around
with different weight buffers?
Because I don't shoot...
I mean, it's needed.
It depends on what you're doing.
Well, and that's why I want to bring it up
because I've got an 18-inch and a 16-inch, and neither one of them has a suppressor on it.
So, like, standard-weight buffers work just swimmingly in both of those, especially because, like, this 18-inch rifle has actually got a rifle-length gas system, and my 16-inch has a mid-length.
So they have fairly long gas systems for the size barrel they have.
Thank you, Faxon and for thinking ahead on that so like i
haven't been in the position where i've had to screw around with a heavier buffer yeah yeah i
mean that's the thing is uh heavier buffer uh it's definitely something that if you're a novice
with firearms or if you're novice with with building, really, do your research on a buffer.
There's a good middle ground that you can definitely just buy one standard buffer, and it should be good.
yet but uh if you are noticing like a hard recoil if you're if you're noticing you know maybe um short stroking you know maybe like it's not necessarily picking up the round right or if
it's not ejecting it right something like that like the two places i always start is the gas
system and the buffer those are the two places that i will adjust before I really start messing with anything.
And usually the buffers, I'll start at the buffer.
Either get a lighter buffer so that the bolt will go back a lot easier.
It's easier to do a buffer than replace like a whole gas system and deal with the pin and all that stuff.
No, I mean, that's a fair point.
that stuff so no i mean that's a fair point i i guess my whole thought process is like i feel like if you are the person who needs to start screwing around with different buffer
weights you probably know like you've ventured you've colored far enough outside the lines that
you probably know you need to be fooling around with different buffer weights and if your first
reaction to hearing that was what do you mean different buffer weights it
probably doesn't apply to you like again again to me i mean even when i had like my 10 and a half
inch ar pistol that had a uh that didn't have a pistol with gas system on it it had a carbine
gas system on it so like you know i feel like until feel like until you start suppressing or until you start messing around with really short gas systems,
which are opening much more aggressively, much earlier in the cycle, with a lot more gas pressure and a lot more bolt velocity,
until you start pushing the AR-15 design past certain parameters, I kind of feel like you don't need to fool around.
You just put a buffer in it, and it's going to work fine.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I kind of feel like you don't need to fool around. You just put a buffer in it and it's going to work fine. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, I agree.
Upper receiver?
I mean, I kind of feel like I know what both of us are going to say, but it bears pointing
out.
Anderson Manufacturing.
No, that's a perfectly valid choice.
I'm not upset with anybody for building on Anderson.
No, I like to try to keep my upper and lower receivers the same.
It's not always going to happen, but I've had good luck with Arrow.
Arrow Precision, hands down to me.
I've got a couple different.
I've got some Anderson manufacturing ones that have treated me really well.
I had one.
My first gun that I ever built was an R-Guns lower,
which I had some issues with their lower.
I had to send it back and get it milled a little bit more.
It was hanging up, but hands down to me,
Arrow is the best.
Best bang for your buck.
When I look at guns, and I, you and I have talked about this
quite a bit is when I, when I build a gun, I usually try to look at, uh, I mean, I want
to, I want to put my money in quality parts and arrow is arrows, a company that their
stuff is pretty fairly priced and it's really well built.
Uh, especially if you get the M4e1 which is it's the
enhanced upper and lower uh or you can get the m5e1 which is the ar10 package which is the uh
basically so i would highly recommend if and that's why i like to get all of them together
i'll get the rail the upper lower upper receiver and lower receiver uh all from the same
company all from arrow just because i'll i buy all the m4e1 components and make sure that they
all match so yeah and just small correction on the arrow precision upper the m4e1 is the standard upper with M4 feed ramps.
The M4E1 Enhanced is the one that you and I have built a couple on,
which I always forget to have this queued up, but there's not really a good picture of it.
So one of these days I'm just going to have to take mine apart and do it myself.
So for any of you who have ever built an ar-15 envision this the front of an ar-15
receiver you've got a big threaded portion with outside threads and then your barrel nut is a big
big barrel nut with inside threads and that screws onto it that's what secures your barrel in place
and that's usually that's what your hand guard's attached to that's a very well-established design what the m4e1 enhanced upper does
is it completely redesigns the front of the upper so that the actual interface that your rail mounts
to is milled so this is a standard that's a standard this is a standard and this is a this is the enhanced yes so what
you're looking at that that big old knob knob on the end where you would normally have you know
your threaded portion for your barrel nut to go on to that is your handguard mounting interface
so the handguard fits onto there and it's got a fairly long bearing surface so you're getting a
lot of stability just
from the mounting interface and then there's eight screws that just keep the hand guard from coming
off the end basically is all they're there for right and this is the barrel nut here the barrel
nut threads into uh into this milled and this is all milled what's nice and what's nice about this
and what i what i like about it is to me it makes it and the research i've done on this back in the day when they first released these was it's stronger
because it's all milled all it's all one piece this chunk here and into this uh into the upper
receiver itself it's all milled one piece and then so the barrel nut actually threads into it
into inside of it so that's what makes it a little bit stronger versus this the barrel nut actually threads into it into inside of it so that's what makes it a little bit stronger
versus this the barrel nut threads over top of those threads uh and so i mean not i've never
had any issues with uh a standard upper either and i mean honestly military wise they this is
the style that the military uses is this right here and i've never heard of like anything
shearing off or anything i mean as
long as you torque it down to correct milk to the correct spec i've never heard of any issues it's
just that i i just and then you know i just really like it just because of the fact of
and i just like it just because of the fact that you can uh this the enhanced one uh this is just
easier i like it just because of the handguard.
Just sliding the handguard on.
The other part that's really cool is because of the way that whole thing's been redesigned
and your barrel nut doesn't have to support the handguard.
It only has to keep the barrel shoved into the front.
And, you know, think about this.
The way that an AR-15 barrel is designed is that the pressure-bearing surface is in the barrel itself.
our 15 barrel design is that the pressure bearing surface is in the barrel itself so the things that are containing pressure is the bolt base and the barrel extension the upper is not under pressure
so all that barrel nut has to do is keep the barrel keep the barrel in the receiver and properly
located and that's it so the barrel nut is now very very small relative to what you we would
think of it traditionally being and it's so small small, as a matter of fact, that the gas, you know, normally with a barrel nut, you got to key it so the gas tube can pass through it.
That doesn't matter anymore because the gas tube goes above the barrel nut.
It simplifies the construction a little bit, even though I don't think it's that hard to properly locate a barrel nut.
But it does make it a lot easier and
faster to to get the barrel installed I personally think it's a better design I mean it's but it does
come it does come with a weight penalty that's like the only thing the M4E1 enhanced upper is
a little heavier the hand guards that you are almost locked into using at that point are
proprietary to Arrow Precision and they are also a fair bit heavier than most other hand guards that you are almost locked into using at that point are proprietary to arrow precision
and they are also a fair bit heavier than most other hand guards on the market it has downsides
but me me personally i think the strength and especially because we now have like you know
laser aiming modules strapped to the front of our guns i think that the uh the rail stiffness itself also is a benefit
yeah and then uh so going off of the upper receiver uh the lower receiver uh arrow also
makes it's called the m4e1 for the lower uh lower receiver so here's a standard basically this is
what like a standard uh actually this is just ambidextrous uh but basically this is
kind of like the standard uh lower receiver that a lot of people are familiar with uh you don't
have like right here you don't have the uh the trigger guard is open uh and really uh that's
really and then right here is there's a there's a roll pin right here uh that you have to tap in
which uh we were talking about this before the show.
I absolutely hate roll pins.
So anything that I can do that makes it just a little bit easier, that is awesome.
The big difference with this is this is actually milled closed now.
So it's actually one piece.
And what I like about this, too, is like a standard rifle, um, and what I like about this too is like a standard, a standard mill, uh, I mean,
a standard rifle really, or even one you buy off the shelf.
A lot of times this is flat right here.
Uh, and so one of the, one of the first modifications I always did was I would actually buy the
Magpul, uh, Magpul enhanced, uh, finger.
Um, I can't remember the exact name of it, but
anyway, uh, basically what it is is you buy the Magpul one or just one from a generic one and it
would, you just pop out, you just pop out these pins here and you can just swap it right out and
go, it goes from straight across. Actually, I'm on the wrong screen.
It goes straight across flat like this.
And it makes it more curved like this.
And this is mostly for just ease of getting your finger in the trigger well.
And if you're wearing gloves, it's good for being able to get gloves in.
The nice thing about this is Arrow built this right in.
So it's actually built in.
And I've never had any issues.
The times I've hunted coyote, all that stuff with this type of lower,
I've never had issues with gloves.
That's what I really like about it.
The other thing I really like about it is this pin right here is threaded,
which is awesome.
I don't know why.
I wish more companies would do this, just off the bat.
is awesome. I don't know why I wish more companies would do it, do this just off the bat.
This pin you on, you thread it out. You put your, uh, your bolt, uh, your bolt carrier catch and everything in, you thread it back in and it's good to go. I've never had any issues with mine
falling out. If you want to throw some thread locker on there, you can. Uh, but I've literally,
I've torqued it down just a little bit uh and i've never ever had any issues
with it walking so have you ever had to lap an upper raggle fraggles asking no i mean not again
i've built two ars both with arrow precision uppers i've never had an issue with either one
of them they come out of the freaking box perfect yeah and yeah and it's also worth pointing out
because we're gonna have this exact same discussion
about bulk carrier groups here
at about three and a half milliseconds.
But like,
there's only so many companies
making the actual forgings
for uppers and lowers.
Right, yeah.
There's only a handful.
It's only like five, four.
Yeah.
If I remember right.
So for anybody who's ever asked,
what's the difference between a $50 lower and a $250 lower?
Guess what?
Sometimes the difference is nothing more than the company logo on the side of it
because they were originally made in the same freaking factory.
It doesn't apply across the board for all of them,
but it applies more than you think.
So that's why my summation with error precision has always been,
there are two plots on this graph.
There's price and there's quality.
And error precision is high enough up the quality scale
that I know I'm getting a good product
and low enough on the price scale
that I'm not cringing at the idea of whooping the wallet out
so they get my vote most of the time,
because it's the delta point between price and quality.
And that's not to say that, well, it's good enough.
They make really good stuff.
It just happens to be made really freaking affordably along the way.
But I guess we might as well talk about,
before we go backwards, we might as well talk about handguards real fast.
Because we've kind of already spoiled it by saying that when you use M4E1 enhanced uppers, you're locked into their own proprietary rail.
But if you're not, what's your preference?
Shoot, it's been so long since I've bought anything other than the arrow um I don't know like honestly it's cheap and but like I've used
some UTG stuff uh it's a lot cheaper but I I've never had any issues with the uh the one rifle that I have that has a UTG rail. Never any issues at all.
So there's that.
But yeah, Arrow. I mean, I haven't bought anything but Arrow in years.
Yeah, and Arrow does.
They do make a couple of handguards
that use the more traditional upper mating arrangement know mating arrangement um i can only assume
quality wise they're probably on par with the rest of our offerings they're certainly about
the same price wise like that's the one downside to using that m4 enhanced m4e1 enhanced upper is
you're locked into their proprietary upper or hand guards and if if you're like me and that's
not really a downside then it's not a
downside but it is worth pointing out that if you don't like aero precisions hand guards that fit
that m4e1 enhanced upper you're gonna hate that upper because that's what you're stuck with and
those hand guards at least the ones that fit the enhanced uppers they are neither light nor are they slim it's a
very big beefy hand guard if you like that that's cool i don't mind but it's again it's worth
pointing out um joe oliveira is asking about psa quality um i've honestly like PSA, to my knowledge, and the, let's see, I had one upper a long time ago.
That was perfect.
That was great.
I don't, I've never owned another PSA rifle.
My experience with PSA when I bought, so back, I don't know, it's been 10, years or so I think now if I remember right but anyway
that's when I built my first AR and I used an Argun's lower and I bought a complete upper from
PSA I was having tons of issues ended up sent contacting PSA and said hey this is what's going
on the guy was like hey I'm leaving for shot show here shortly
get it to me and I'll try to work on it before I go so I got it to him he sent it back to me before
he left like he he was he sent me a whole letter of like what he handwritten he did because he just
didn't have time to do a bunch of stuff but basically he ended up sending me a brand new
upper uh upper receiver just to make sure it wasn't the upper receiver
and he said that they fired multiple like four mags through it no issues this this and this
did a bunch of stuff here's a brand new upper receiver and uh it turned out to be the lower
was the issue however uh so that being said um i've never had any bad issues with PSA and their customer service is top-notch
so that's my big thing with PSA and PSA they're getting bigger and I hope and
I've seen their prices increase and I hope that they kind of keep it keep
things down because they are pretty quality for what your the prices I just
hope that they don't do what BCM did.
Basically.
Um,
back in the day,
BS BCM was really good.
Uh,
but as soon as their name got popular,
their prices went right up.
So I hope,
I hope,
uh,
PSA doesn't do that.
But if you,
if you're looking at a PSA rifle,
uh,
by all means,
I would say pick it up.
Honestly,
like I bought one of their ak's
and it runs smooth it runs flawless like i've never had any issues with their ak uh their ak
platform uh so and their their jackal actually looks pretty interesting to me as well um but uh
but yeah no psa i'd say try them out i mean i i think i think what i would say about psa based on
firsthand experience from a couple friends of mine's farms i've handled is it's the same thing
about aero precision it's the price versus the quality i personally based on you know
my experience and a sample size of not much my experience tells me that if i have to pick error precision parts or
psa like uppers lowers and everything i think error precision is better quality that's just
what i've experienced but it's going to cost you a few bucks more so it always comes down to that
that question of like how much hell do you intend to put this weapon through and what's it worth to you to make sure it lasts forever?
But, you know, for the person who says I have $600 for an AR and that is leaving money for like training and mags and ammo and all the other stuff you really should have,
I would say go get that $600 AR and go start getting some training in rather than tell the person, nope, go spend two grand on an AR 15 and be broke.
Cause I know a lot of people who have very cheap rifles,
but know how to run them very well.
Just saying.
Uh,
so what barrel now?
Um,
I actually want to,
don't want to go any further forward.
I,
while I was letting you talk,
I was writing,
I was trying to get ahead of this, um, trigger. trigger i know you're i know you're a guysly guy
uh i mean well honestly i mean in my air platform uh well in my short air platform i have a uh
two and a half pound single stage pof uh it's a pof trigger and uh that and it's a flat faced um i i love it uh it's single stage
quick reset uh that the flat trigger i really like the way the flat trigger feels versus the curve
it's the only flat trigger i own uh versus i mean except for what's on my pistols and stuff like
that uh but other than that i mean in my ar 10 i have a two-stage geyserly uh and then i think in
my other ar i have a uh alg uh which is i mean basically a geyserly trigger uh but um but yeah
no pof guy yeah pof and geyserly and then actually in my other ar i have have a CNC machine drop-in trigger system.
Yeah, and me personally, I will second you on the ALG triggers, the ACT specifically.
The price difference between any remotely decent mil-spec trigger and an ALG ACT is so minuscule
it's worth getting the ACT.
Like, it is
it is that little
bit smoother. It's a little bit
little bit less creepy. Not a lot
less creepy. I mean, it's a mil-spec
trigger that's been polished up and slicked
up with some coatings. It's call it what it is.
But I feel like it's a small enough
extra amount of money
to justify the upgrades that are being made.
I mean, it's like 79 bucks, I think, for the ALG trigger.
But that's the thing.
For anybody who doesn't know, ALG is a sister company to Geisli.
Yeah.
Was it Bill Geisli?
His wife is the owner of ALG. name is amy lynn geisley
figure out where alg came from yeah and so uh got so alg is basically a a tuned up mil spec
uh trick geisley trigger um i don't know i for the price of it, for the price, you can't beat it.
If you're trying to build something and you're looking at quality,
triggers are super easy to swap out and upgrade.
If you don't really want to go just straight mil-spec, ALG,
drop an ALG in there.
You'll be fine.
You'll love it.
If you want to upgrade to maybe a flat face
trigger down the road or something with a lighter pull or whatever, then do it down the road. But
ALG is hands down like one of the best triggers that I'll always get if I need to put something
other than like a drop in or something else in yeah i also recently changed out this 18 inch
um sprs trigger for trigger tech and that's been interesting i haven't been able to get out to the
range yet i'm actually going to lock myself in my at my reloading bench tomorrow and get this uh
ladder load for 77 gray match king spun up so that i can get this rifle out to the range and
do some load development on that finally.
But my initial impressions of this trigger tag, you can get them single stage, dual stage. You can get them, like this one is their AR duty trigger, which has two fixed pull weights you select from.
You can get a curved trigger or a flat-based trigger.
This one's curved because flat-based triggers feel just super freaking weird to me for some reason probably because i just i spent my
entire life on curve triggers and i cannot get over the emotional hump of what it feels like
um raggle fraggle i hear you about the you're i'm assuming you're probably talking about the
the diamond triggers that are uh or no the competition trigger, I think, is a fixed 2.5 pound.
The diamond triggers are adjustable from 4.5 down to 1.5 pounds.
I have mixed feelings about the trigger so far, just dry firing it.
It is exactly what they say it is.
It is a zero creep trigger.
And for anybody that's never felt a zero creep trigger, it's
weird feeling like in a good way, because there's no creep to it. As soon as the trigger moves,
it's sending the, it's sending the hammer forward. Um, there's a bit of over travel,
oddly enough. Like if you pull the, if you pull the trigger and you hold that trigger to the rear,
and then you cycle the bolt after the bolt has cycled the hammer to reset, that's when the trigger moves.
So it's kind of a weird feeling.
And the reset is super, super, super mushy, which I'm not crazy about.
For a DMR or an SPR, I don't think it's a problem.
But for a firearm that I was going to be shooting with gloves
or something I was going to be shooting on the move,
I would absolutely not accept this week of a reset.
Honestly, though, I mean, my 16 inch carbine still has an ALG ACT in it because I don't
really care to have a super crisp, nice trigger in that thing.
The ALG ACT does what I need it to do.
It's a mil-spec trigger.
It's drop safe.
And the other thing I found out recently, our Mantis blackbeards are not compatible with trigger tech triggers that's not it's something
weird that they found out when these triggers started hitting the market and i don't i haven't
looked into it enough to know why it is but apparently it has something to do with the
hammer reset and if you put a black a mantis blackbeard into an ar upper with a uh trigger
tech trigger in the lower it'll just full auto like it never gets the hammer down far enough
to reset the trigger to re you know to catch the um the seer so it just pop pop pop pop pop pop
must be a play spin or something like that it's got to be something like that but it's weird
because like like i've i've just sat sat there and run the bolt by hand,
and it catches no problem.
So it's got to be something in the fact that it's got to be something in the way
this cartridge is designed and the difference between that and mil-spec.
I don't know.
It's worth pointing out.
It's not a huge detraction for me, but it is worth pointing out.
So bolt carrier group.
Toolcraft. Next. Right, uh, bulk carrier group. Toolcraft.
Yeah. Next. Right.
It's the same thing. It's the same thing.
Well, it's the same thing as, here's the thing, though.
Even if we say aero precision, aero precision makes,
they make bulk carrier groups. Aero precision's
bulk carrier groups are fine. They're nice.
They work. They're good quality.
But it's the same thing we said about
yes,
raggle, fraggle, full auto, but we're talking about a Manus X Blackbeard, yes, Raggle Fraggle Full Auto,
but we're talking about a Manus X Blackbeard,
so you're not going to shoot full auto with live ammo
unless you just want to scare the bejesus out of somebody
when they hear the hammer rocking and rolling while you're dry fire practicing.
But what I was saying was it's the same thing as the uppers and the lowers.
There's only so many companies making the forgings.
Well, guess what?
There's only so many companies that make bolt carrier groups,
and Toolcraft happens to be one of them.
So a lot, I don't know exactly who,
but a lot of the bolt carrier groups you find on the market from Arrow Precision,
among others, are made by Toolcraft.
Yeah, Toolcraft, just like there's a handful
of companies that make uh upper and lower receivers but well and and by make i mean like
they actually like they they do the forging or casting whatever you want to call it uh and then
they ship out that blank out and then other companies will actually finish them out and
mill them out and stuff like that uh i mean arrow yeah tool craft makes
and there's a there's a handful or so of uh bolt carrier group manufacturers tool craft is
in my opinion one of the the top uh i've never had i'd love my tool craft bolts uh never had
any issues you pull them out you clean they clean up really really nice clean up fast
uh the carbon really doesn't stick to them too bad.
So, yeah, hands down, Toolcraft.
Okay, so one question and one side note.
The side note, at least the last time I checked, Toolcraft has an option for two different steels in the bolts themselves.
I think there's C-158 or carpenter steel, which is technically what the military specs, and they have another option out there.
I can't remember what it is. It's another alloy steel.
I personally have always gone with the C-158 bolts.
I don't remember there being a huge cost difference, if any.
How do you feel about their various coating options. I've got a pair of nickel boron carriers that are in my rifles, and then I've got one
black nitrided that's just
sitting in the safe
in case I need to hot swap a bolt and keep going.
I mean, I have
both. I have a black nitride and I have
a nickel.
The only difference
really
is
visibility. My only difference i the only really real the only difference really is uh visibility uh like my
my night vision rifle uh i have uh the black nitride uh in it uh just to kind of take down
that uh shine uh a little bit more uh and then um so you know my 308, I have the nickel, and they run great.
They run flawless.
They clean up both great.
The carbon doesn't stick to the coatings.
It's great.
Yeah, but if you're that worried about the bulk air group being shiny,
I mean, put a magazine through it.
It won't be shiny for much longer.
Yeah, or with a suppressor, it won't be shiny for only maybe like 10 hours. The whole gun's going to get dirty as hell immediately. Yeah, well, with a suppressor, it won't be shiny for only maybe like 10 hours. Oh, no, as soon as you screw the suppressor on, the whole gun's going to get dirty as hell immediately.
Yeah, so barrels.
Barrels, Faxon.
Yeah, Ballistic Advantage or Faxon.
I've got both, and they both run great.
And for the price, you can't beat them.
To me, for the price, you can't beat them.
For the quality too so now my
dad has a ballistic advantage barrel and i have facts and barrels in both of mine and having shot
both i wouldn't say that there is an enormous accuracy advantage with ballistic advantage i
don't know if you've experienced anything different i wouldn't call either one like a
precision barrel.
You know, they're good barrels for what they are,
but they both make good rack-grade barrels, so to say.
You know, like if you're chasing like super crazy sub-MOA accuracy,
I don't know that I'd recommend you go to either one of those.
But if what you're looking for is something you're going to run and gun,
something that's going to get the job done,
something that's not going to break your bank,
and it's going to last a good long while,
faxing is really hard to beat.
Yeah, but the thing is, though, is if you're shooting for sub-MOA,
you're going to be doing a lot more research.
Your barrel's going to cost a lot more,
and you might be shooting a bolt action versus an AR.
Which, I mean, ARs can do it,
but I'm just saying you're just going to invest more money into certain things.
I'm thinking just quality and just something that will put lead downrange,
and then you can take it for training, and it'll put a good group together.
On the side of the facts and gunner barrel barrel or do you play with any of their others um i have their government profile barrel uh i also have i was looking at their pencil barrel
uh just because of weight i've got one but uh the gunner uh i i i believe the uh my i believe
one is a i have i can't remember if it is, Ballistic Advantager Faxon, but I do have a government-style barrel and then a profile,
and the other one is a Gunner, if I remember right.
And they're both, those are pretty heavy.
They don't take a lot out.
And that's where, like, my AR pistol is heavier because of the profile barrel that's on it.
If I went lighter, then, yeah, definitely would lighten it up.
But the thing is, the downside is if you have a lighter barrel, like a pencil barrel,
and you're shooting more rounds, that barrel does heat up a little bit faster,
which could affect accuracy stuff like that
if you're worried about that uh that's what's nice about the uh like the government style and
stuff like or the government and um everything is in my opinion uh it you can put more rounds
through it without it heating up as fast i mean at least in faxon's catalog i wouldn't look at a
i personally wouldn't look at any of their other profiles other than the gunner or the pencil.
Because the additional weight between a SOCOM barrel and the gunner barrel, the weight savings is enough and the additional stiffness is negligible.
And then if you're looking for just as light as possible, just get a pencil barrel and deal with the downsides.
Muzzle devices. I'm simple. everything i have has a2 bird cages when i had a 10 and a half inch
pistol i had a three and a half inch cat can on it which was purely just to try to get all the blast
to go forward down range so that it didn't like light my eardrums on fire. And it worked for that fairly well, but I haven't played with some of the stuff
you have.
Yeah, as far as
barrel devices, I
have
AAC is my
one suppressor.
So, of course, I have
the AAC Flash
Hider or Muzzle Comp
on my.308, 6.5 Creedmoor.
I did have it on my.556, but then I just picked up a Surefire SOCOM 5.56 suppressor.
So now I have a Surefire Warcomp on it.
So that's my muzzle devices.
so that's my muzzle devices now that i have a dedicated 556 i'll probably put that same muzzle device on the rest of my ars that are in 556 the 308ac those are that's yeah
it runs really great and of course i mean if you don't run a suppressor i mean you could always direct thread uh then you won't have a muzzle device at all uh but i mean that's to each their
own really what do you whatever you want to do and and that's the thing is um
with the a5 with the or with the a2 bird cage uh there is what is that what i say last uh a couple
weeks ago was it gr Griffin Armament? Yeah,
Griffin Armament. They make a suppressor that is, like, I mean, and that's the thing, is
I'm surprised most companies aren't doing this too, is you have the A2, the Birdcage,
which is one of the most, well, it's the most popular comp out there, flash hider out there,
and, I mean, it does a great job it's a great for i mean you
can buy them online for like 10 bucks or some crap like that like super cheap uh they're a great
device uh they came out with a suppressor that will actually mount to the a2 bird cage
so you don't have to freaking you know like because i mean that's the thing is like the surefire my can was 800 bucks i think it was grand a thousand bucks with the uh tax stamp or the
permission slip i should say uh and then the war comp was i think i found it on sale for i think it
retails for like 160 i found it on sale for i think 130 140 ish uh and i bought
another one from a friend of mine that he took his off when he swapped us a suppressor around
uh and i bought it bought it from him for like 80 bucks or something like that which was a good deal
uh the aecs were i think 90 a piece um so so yeah i mean that's the thing is so that so you really and and i guess if we really want
to really quickly talk about it is uh pin versus our pin and weld versus not and that i guess that
depends on what your use is uh i stayed away from pin and welding and that's why uh none of my guns
are 13.7 or 14 and a half inch uh and pin and welded is because I didn't, at the time, I didn't know what muzzle device I wanted. Now that I have a surefire SOCOM and like, I'm sticking with that
muzzle device. Uh, I'll probably, I'm probably, I'm, I've been looking at buying instead of the
16 inch, uh, barrel, I'm looking at buying like a 13.7 or something, uh, and then pin and weld
my muzzle device on and call it good and then it'll be 16
inches and then with the suppressor actually it'll be mark 20 but um you know whatever so
anyway that uh that's about it i've i had magazines and optics on here i feel like mags we could do
fairly quickly but optics might need to shave off and be its own episode because I feel like we could talk about that for like 45 minutes.
Yeah, I mean, optics, definitely.
I guess it all depends on what you want to do and purpose and stuff like that.
But yeah, we can do a different time.
What about mags, though?
I've only got I've got a couple that are in my rotation, but like I'm not a I'm not really super hung up on magazines.
Magazines.
I've always I've always just used Magpul.
I've never had any issues with Magpul.
I got friends.
I know people who swear by Lancer magazines, which they're great.
Like the steel feed lips that Lancer has on theirs.
There's something to say.
The steel feed lips versus the polymer.
Longe uh of the
magazine for one um and then just you can definitely beat it up a lot more but uh yeah
magpul and then i do i have i don't even know how many i have but i have this just some standard gi
metal mags too which are great they've never had any issues The downside about which Magpul has fixed it, but Magpul mags, when they first came out with 300 Blackout,
you could not load a full magazine of 300 Blackout in a Magpul magazine.
The way something with a taper, something with the angle and some stuff like that,
the 300 Blackout rounds would not, eventually they would just bind up.
You couldn't do anything.
So you could only get like a half a mag if that in versus that's why I bought a bunch of steel mags.
Just because like the GI mags, like I could load a full 30 round mag of 300 blackout with that.
So that's kind of, that was my difference between 300 blackout and556 because you definitely want to keep those two separated.
Yeah, so I don't have a version of Magpul magazines.
I have a mix of just GI mags,
although I do have a good stack that are,
I forget what brand they are off the top of my head.
It's a stainless steel bodied copy of a GI mag.
So that made a couple ounces heavier, but it's very thin stainless steel versus aluminum.
So call that a little bit of a durability spike.
And I've got a fair number of Lancers.
I like Lancers.
I don't know that I like them better than Magpul, but I've got a bunch of them and I've never had a problem with them.
of them and I've never had a problem with them.
And we are talking specifically about ARs, but I mean, I've got
a fair number of
I've got a
I've kind of used a lot of different kinds of magazines
and I'm less concerned
about what brand of magazine you use
than I am about the fact that the stupid
thing runs properly and the first
time it acts crazy, you either
identify and fix the problem or you smash the thing
with a hammer and throw it in the trash can.
But personally,
Magpul's hard to go wrong with. Lancer's hard to go
wrong with. G.I. Mag's work.
So just get a bunch of them.
Don't ever
buy just one magazine
to think you're good. I have a very
dear friend that actually hit me up just yesterday
to go to the range with him sometime in the near future.
And he's going to have to come on the show one time because i gotta razz the hell out of him because like when he first started buying guns he he uh he was buying lots of guns
and not lots of magazines and i raked his ass over the coals pretty hard about it like in the most
loving i want you to be able to protect your life and your family way humanly possible, I raked him over the coals pretty hard.
Jeez.
I'm glad that you got 12 guns, but you got 13 magazines between all of them.
You're going to run out of loaded mags real fast, bub.
And then he asked me how many loaded mags I have, and I reaffirmed for him why I'm on so many government watch lists.
But, I mean, I guess we could probably cap it off right there.
Like I said, I kind of thought we might get into, like, you know, optics and that whole thing.
But now that I'm looking at the time, I mean, hell.
Yeah. at the time. I mean, hell, just talking about scopes, red dots,
like lasers,
just
talking about those and AR platforms,
we could be here for another half an hour.
Oh, yeah. Wrap it up.
Yep. So, once again,
Prepper Camp is coming up in the
near future.
For the patrons,
y'all should be seeing Secret Santa Gifts in the near future. We did a
little thing. Thank you, Stuart, for arranging that. And if anybody doesn't like what you got,
you will have your Secret Santa's return address so you can take appropriate action if necessary.
But Prepper Camp's coming up. Matter of fact, Camp and Trip is coming up next summer. Again, patron only.
And, um, I mean,
we're getting into the holiday time, everybody.
So, like, please take a little bit of time away from YouTube and this
goofy podcast and whatever other nonsense
you're into. Spend some time with your family.
Put your feet up and friggin' chill.
Oh, Jesus Christ, raggle, fraggle,
bipods, lights, forward grips. Yes, we
could be here for another hour talking about all that
stuff. I'm just going to put a note
about AR accessories, and
we'll be here for an hour.
But, Andrew, I know what we're going to
talk about next time.
Yeah, rub your temples, I feel you.
But, Matterfacts Podcast
heading out the door. Good night, everybody.
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