The Prepper Broadcasting Network - Matter of Facts: Poor Boy Prepping

Episode Date: October 7, 2024

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Welcome back to the Matterfacts Podcast on the Prepper Broadcasting Network. We talk prepping, guns, and politics every week on iTunes, Stitcher, and Spotify. Go check out our content at mofpodcast.com on Facebook or Instagram. You can support us via Patreon or by checking out our affiliate partners. I'm your host, Phil Ravele. Andrew and Nick are on the other side of the mic, and here's your show. So, it now occurs to me that in my exuberance to utilize this new feature, StreamRise Given, where it automatically runs an intro video, I grabbed the wrong pre-roll video that has our old intro music on it. So, I have homework to do this weekend.

To find the correct intro video, and then delete everything off this freaking hard drive that is not current. Because I've done this a couple of times. I mean, just archive it. Like, intro video 1.0, intro video 2.0. Yeah, I got so much crap for using that intro music all those years ago, like, nobody liked it. I was the only person that thought it was a good idea.

Oh, I liked it. Okay, well then maybe we'll resurrect that and I'll just piss off Uncle Randy because he was the most funny. Punish Randy at my request. What was that, Andrew? The intro

music that ran on the pre-roll, that was our old intro music and he hated it. Anyway, that's when I went for the intro music that we use now, which is, you know, more like snare drum and, you know, all that. But anyway, so we're all back in the studio. Last weekend, we were supposed to record some content for Prepper Camp, but that thing happened. That big, ugly,

horrible thing happened that has blacked out major parts of four states. All you keep hearing about is Asheville because it seemed like that got annihilated by four dudes and a couch. Dude, Asheville. Look, there's

not a single place, there are not many places in that area, which I mean, like, you know, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Tennessee, Florida, the Florida panhandle got nuked again. So, I mean, the situation

over there is diabolically bad. There are dozens of rescue organizations trying their best to get aid in the area. And, frankly, there's a lot of people over there that are suffering right now. So I would just say, as I have said to the audience, you know, in a couple of posts here and there recently, like, if you can do anything with Lend Assistance, please consider it because there are a lot of people in need. But in light of that, we didn't think it was appropriate to do a hurricane prepping episode for obvious reasons. Poor taste and all that. Yep. We will do one of those

in the future. Yeah, and we'll probably talk about this hurricane and its effects specifically in detail once we have more information. Because right now, there are still, I mean, probably several hundred communities, would you say, Phil, that we don't have full information about yet? Yeah, and unfortunately, I don't think we're going to get full information for a while because of i mean just what i've heard on top of the immediate damage that was done there were dams that burst which have destroyed everything downstream of them yep there are mud slides that happen that have buried whole towns under five to six feet of just mud. And I don't think those towns can be recovered. And then you have major damage to infrastructure.

Like, I know that there was one town in North Carolina or Tennessee, I don't recall where, but the public officials had, like, come back into the town when the floodwaters receded and came to the realization that their wastewater treatment facility that services that entire county can no, no, it cannot be fixed.

Yeah. The damage zone was too severe. It cannot be repaired. They're going. So before these people have clean drinking water in that County, an entire County, they're going to have to bulldoze what used to be there and build it from scratch.

That is a years long project. Yeah. Several years at minimum. So I don't know. I mean, this, you know, the,

the, one of the things that we do on the show is a lot of times it's like, you know, we preach from that gospel of preparedness. We preach from the gospel of like, be prepared and, you know, have things put back and stock your pantry and yeah,

yeah, yeah. But in this kind of a situation, I don't know what you tell people other than get the hell out of this thing's way and don't be there when it happens. Because, you know, it's like my wife said over the weekend when we were, we went on a family camping trip instead of going to Saluda, North Carolina to go to Prepper Camp. And we were watching the news. Hey, Raggle Fraggle, I see you there. I don't want to ignore you. And, you know, my sister and my brother-in-law

were camping with us, and my sister-in-law very poignantly said, what do you do to prep for something like this other than get out of its way? And I'm like, unfortunately, that's the answer at a certain point. You know, the most bug in central family has to have an evacuation plan because sooner or later, staying on your ground is not survivable. Yeah.

And a lot of people, unfortunately, in this case, they didn't get a choice in the matter. No. Because, well, we knew the hurricane was going to be severe, but sometimes you just can't leave. Or it gets bad very quickly and then you are blocked from leaving and leaving would be more dangerous. Yeah. So, I mean, yeah, a hurricane prep episode is definitely in the future sometime. I don't want to cast aspersions on anyone

who made any decision that was in the path of this thing because it's inappropriate and because Jesus Christ. What do you say at a moment like this? Rackle fraggle? No. We talked briefly about

Hurricane Helena Aftermath. I think we all agreed we're not going to get too much into it at this stage of things because out of an urge to be understanding to the people who are still actively dealing with this problem and for the people that have lost people in this storm, it's just not appropriate to talk about this time. As far as everyone at Prepper Camp, I have not heard of any injuries. I haven't heard of any fatalities.

Uh, they had a really, really, really ugly night on that mountain that they probably could have avoided had they not gone. But that's as much as I know when we, when we have, when we have more solid information on what happened in that area and we'll probably readdress that topic.

Yeah, maybe in a couple weeks. Let everything settle, shake out, die down. Let us get some real information out there. Talk to some people. Make sure everybody's okay. Make sure everybody's fed down there. Then we'll worry about doing an AAR, sort of sit down about it. I just want to throw it out there. Then we'll worry about doing an AAR, sort of sit down about it.

I just want to throw it out there. Disaster Coffee, a portion of the sales go to disaster relief in the United States. Preparing, funny word, for Prepper Camp,

I bought 20 mugs to sell down at prepper camp i have 20 mugs sitting in about 19 mugs sitting in boxes that need homes so if you are interested reach out to me and I'll sell you a mug basically I'm looking at what you only have 17 because two of them are spoken for well I got I got

you guys are going to get the the blems you got to send me two or gillian when she sees you I mean, okay. I don't know what I owe you for shipping,

but anyway, um, I mean, yeah, but so basically my idea is, uh, I haven't set up a price yet on them, but there'll probably be on the disaster coffee website.

Uh, but basically, um, I basically just want, I'd like to try to get, you know, some of my cash back. Uh, so I wanted to sell them for, you know 20 bucks and then basically get my pros get my money back

that what I invested in the cups but then the rest of it will go to which is you know yeah the rest of it will go to disaster relief. I'll donate it to disaster relief. So, again, keep an eye on the disastercoffee.com website, and I'll have the cups up there. Hopefully soon I'll have the mugs up. I'm trying to figure out, you know, some couple pictures or whatever, make it look nice, somewhat nice. But, yeah, like I said, keep an eye out for that. I will allow you to ruthlessly show those cups. somewhat nice. But yeah, like I said, keep an eye out for that. So. I will allow you to ruthlessly show those cups that,

that's, that seems like good, good stuff considering the profits are going to disaster relief and it's desperately needed right now. Absolutely. All right. Well, before Nick starts shilling Warhammer 40 cake, Hey stuff, which I'm sorry, All right. Well, before Nick starts shilling Warhammer 40K stuff.

Hey, now. Oh, I'm sorry. Would you rather start with the D&D stuff first? Look, I will shill for Shadow Dark over D&D right now, given what Wizards of the Coast is doing. Support small content creators. Shadow Dark is fantastic. Not affiliated as a sponsor. But we do actually have a topic

other than just us goofing around 10 minutes into the show. So one of our patrons stuck this in our hat. He said, talk about poor boy prepping, which I figured we could start down this road, and if it turns into multiple shows, then cool. And if not, then

it'll just be a fun little experiment. God, that comments. One of these days I'm going to have to figure out who guy that comments is. Because I'm not totally sure. In Raggle Fraggle, I've never said anything bad about Andrew. Other than he should grow his beard out further. That's it. That's like the worst thing I've ever said about him.

Why not work? I'll piss on them. Being poor is the best form to be a prepper. There's no false sense of security or money bailing you out during SHTF. Also, beans and rice beats any

MRE any day. That was kind of the vein we went into this with. You haven't eaten enough MREs if you're not tired of them. I mean, I've eaten a lot of MREs, and there's a reason why there's two cases sitting on that shelf that are unopened. They're food.

Yeah. They are food when nothing else presents itself. But I thought before we started into the free-for-all of the various poor boy or cost-effective preps people should be looking into, I thought we would have a little bit of a game. So me and Nick played, and I think Andrew did because we bullied him and shamed him if you wouldn't. So the goal post was two weeks of food. Two weeks of food and water. With the understanding that we were going to obscure tax and shipping to try to keep this fair. Because, you know, my wife is texting me in the Facebook chat.

Yes, honey, pizza for dinner sounds awesome to me, if that's what you're offering. But I think she might, I'm not sure. But if I just got teased with pizza and there's no pizza when this podcast is over, I'm going to be bitterly disappointed. Guy that comments, my CIA handler tells me I can't go public with my online profile. Mine, on the other hand, encourages me to make a fool of myself. So I don't know. Yours doesn't sound like much fun.

You should get reassigned. But anyway, back to the rules of this competition. So two weeks of food and water. Nick and I agreed on 2,000 calories per day. So we're talking about 28,000 calories. You know, 14 days, yadada yadda yadda. I had originally said a gallon of water a day. Nick, I think you came up

with, you went with three. It's up to you. I went with three because me personally, I drink between a gallon and a half and two a day, and you need to wash shit. I didn't include washing in this because i just assumed you wouldn't use potable water for that you'd use non-potable source you know but the

earth but the other thing of it is that and we we might want to obscure water from this because water is such a dependent on your environment type of problem like you and i were talking about it and like when i was in Iraq, we had, we got cases of one and a half liter water bottles and I hammered down five of them a day. Oh yeah. Cause I was in the desert.

Yeah. But, um, I don't know. I figured we'd just kind of like show and tell our list. And I swear to Christ, I'm going to laugh my butt off. If we all did,

if we all ended up with the same things,, by the way, we all assemble these lists totally independent of each other. So... Rochambeau, do y'all want me to go first or do y'all want to go first? Yeah, why not, man? Go ahead. Take it away. We'll go in video order. So it'll be you, me, Andrew. Okay. Bear with me a second while I share

the screeneries. I don't know how to share screens. So, on that bottom window where it says share, there's a submenu that says share screen, and then you can tell what you wanted to share. I just have it aimed at... Alright, yeah, yeah, yeah. So these were the ground rules. Two weeks, screen and then you can tell what you wanted to share i just have it aimed at um all right yeah

yeah yeah so these are the ground rules two weeks 2 000 calories per day that's 28 000 calories and i said 14 gallons of water although you could debate that maybe that should be huh i thought oh never mind you're good okay so i went to wally world because most people have walmarts around them and kind of the vein i went into was was that because i don't know about y'all but i've been asked by quite a few people i am brand new to preparedness what do i need to get right now so i figured i would tell them take this shopping list go to a Walmart, and for each member of your family, buy this. And that will at least get you two weeks of food and water put back in your pantry so that you have a good base, and then you can build on that. So what I outlined was a 32-ounce bag of Great Value rice.

It's $1.77 for two pounds. A pound of Great Value red beans, which is $1.87. A four-pack of tuna fish, which was $4.34. And then a six-pack of cans of Armor Vienna sausages, which was $4.68. All that times five comes to 27,865 calories. So you've got your rice, your beans. You've got two canned meat options, which I can say from experience will hold for a reasonable amount of time if you store them in an unconditioned space like a garage like I do. I mean, obviously, if you have like rodents, they can chew through those bags and those cans, so you're going to need to be a little vigilant around that.

But as far as, like, non-perishable, doesn't require refrigeration, you should be good for a while, that's a good place to start. And then to that, I added 14 of the Great Value brand. It looks like a milk jug, but it's one gallon jugs of drinking water for $1.37 each. So my grand total came to $82.48 for 14 gallons of water, which I consider like a gallon of water is bare minimum. Yeah. That's, you're, you're going to need more if you're going to be working out in the heat, you're going to need more if you want to wash up, going to need more if you're going to be working out in the heat. You're going to need more if you want to wash up.

You're going to need more for various things, but if I'm talking about rationing it, stretch it as far as you can, make it last as long as you can, bare, bare, bare minimum. That's what I would say. Beans are amazing. Okay, so raggle fraggle, I'm not angry at you,

but I will say red beans and rice have fed more generations of poor ass Cajuns than anything. And none of us starve to death. So the legions of Chinese soldiers would disagree that rice has fed so many of them, even without red beans. The only thing I would say is I would just be careful of your water. even without red beans. The only thing I would say is I would just be careful of your water.

Those gallon jugs are known to break down over time. So I would definitely be careful that... Ask me how I know. But yeah. So...

Yeah, it's... Ask me how I know. I mean, I no my very first water well yeah my very first water stock was actually utilizing or uh repurposing milk jugs because i had a lot of them lying around and um i know if i know from experience they break down and they start pissing leaking all over your garage within six months. Depending on where they're stored, but I've had them break down even faster. But I guess kind of my point of view or where I was coming from with this was, was that if I had to send you out today to go get two weeks of food and water for somebody, this is what I'd tell you to get. The minute you get home and this money is spent, and this is $82.48.

This is about what it costs me to take my wife and daughter out for, like, tacos one evening these days. So for the cost of taking a family out to, you know, to go eat, to eat out someplace, I mean, hell, this is almost, you could go to Sonic or Wendy's twice and spend this much. I mean, hell, you could go to Sonic or Wendy's twice and spend this much. So we're not talking about a huge amount of money, but you can get this, and this will at least get you two weeks of provisions for a single person, multiplied by the number of people in your family, and you at least have a base. The minute you get all this, I would immediately tell you start looking at sturdier, more reliable methods of water storage, because as Andrew pointed out quite correctly,

those milk jugs are not going to hold up very long. They're not meant for long-term storage. But when I was looking at how do I drive this cost down as much as humanly possible to get somebody jumped into the game as quickly and cheaply as possible, so once they get here then I can give them some direction on

do this do this do this to get them on better footing and when I looked at because I had originally thought about like pointing them straight at the the commercially available water jugs and I couldn't find jugs unfilled cheaper than you can get these plastic jugs at Walmart pre-filled with drink and water for. Well yeah, but look at the weight of the empty jugs compared to each other.

The commercial refillable jugs contain like 10 to 15 times more plastic. The wall stockness is insanely different. I'm not debating that they're not infinitely better

or that there's not a reason they cost more. Here's where I'm coming from. It's four days before a major hurricane is about to make landfall in South Louisiana. Those water jugs aren't going to be a problem in four days. Ask me how many times i've lived through that someone's someone one day will come

to me and say oh dude i need hurricane preps here's your shopping list go get this and if you haven't drank through hate me if you haven't drank and ate through all of this in two weeks then you need to get some water jugs to pour this water into. And then you need to look at the hot sauce and the coffee and all the other things you're going to want to add to your preps. But if I just need to keep you from starving to death for two weeks, go get this $82 and 48 cents plus tax. So that's, I'm going to stop the share, but that was where I started was I need a shopping list to give to a person who needs bare minimum sustainment for two weeks for a single person. Go get this and go get out of here. All right, so this is what I came up with.

I freaking knew you and I were going to have all the same stuff. Hey, look, it's basics. It's staples. all the same stuff. Hey, look, it's basics. It's staples. It's a little bit of meat, a little bit of vegetables, a breakfast option to break it up, and rice because you can stretch everything with rice. All right. I went well over the minimum calories on this one. And why I did that was because you can buy a 25-pound bag of rice for the same price as you can buy 10 pounds of rice. So why would you not? If you have a Sam's Club near you, these places are fantastic.

I'm going to tell you to do two things. Wait, point of order, you got all this at Sam's, right? 100% of this is Sam's Club. Okay. You can plug this into your cart there and order it drop shipped to your house today. Okay. But I wanted to point that out as far as what our source was so that in case somebody is brand new and wants to reproduce this, we tell them you need to go to a Sam's Club so that you can get 25 pounds of rice for that price. Sam's Club, Costco, any of those.

If you don't have one of those near you, find a restaurant supply store. Most of them will sell to you retail for a small markup. So anyway, very similar list. Long grain, white rice, 25 pound bags, about 13 bucks. Canned kidney beans, just because that was the cheapest beans. But honestly, you could go to your local grocery store and grab one of each of six different kinds of beans if you want. Pulled apart chunk chicken breast in cans, 11 bucks, 12 bucks. Yeah, it looks like $12. Sweet corn, because personally I like sweet corn.

But you can substitute that for just about any canned vegetables, about the same price, about $7 for six cans. Quaker instant oatmeal. How many kids don't eat oatmeal? You're going to need to feed your kids something, at least for breakfast. You get 52 count of that for 16 under 16 bucks vienna sausages libby's just a different brand based on our geographical location uh cliff bars because you're gonna need some kind of snack for when you're doing whatever 20 count box 20 bucks and then the one jug, a one gallon jug water containers, but this is in a six pack. So you get six gallons per pack, seven of those, 10 bucks a piece,

ends up 135.52 for 33,413 calories. Okay. So you and I really aren't that far off because if you, I mean, if you took four of these, four of those waters off, just try to compare apples to apples. And the cliff bars off, you'd be at the same place in the same calorie count. But man,

I think about the only thing you did was you chucked in, I think you went in a little heavier on the, um, on meat. Yeah. Between, so I went with two, I went with two different kinds of meat just so you could break that up a

little bit. Cause for one, yeah. Tuna and rice. It's okay. Chicken and rice. Chicken and rice is pretty good, but you rice, it's okay. Chicken and rice, chicken and rice is pretty good. But, you know, I wanted

to have a little different breakfast option so you weren't eating tuna and rice for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, because that drives people crazy. Unless they're an army vet that doesn't have taste buds anymore. Right, but at that point you might as well eat MREs and not poop for the full

two weeks. Not pooping for two weeks is painful, no thank you. Yeah, well, that's what MREs get you. Wow. The show took a turn. I mean, I'm sure I could dredge up a medic or somebody to tell you what happens if you don't use the bathroom

for a long enough. It's okay. So let's see if this will come through. Oh, Jesus. Oh, man. She big. That's your 27-inch monitor, isn't it? Yeah, a smaller one.

Okay, so we're all under $160. That's not bad. So I don't know. We'll see if this is we'll see if my math is mathing which i don't think it is because i'm not the smartest person in the world i'm gonna take the overlay off so it doesn't cover that yeah so um basically i got uh i started off with the uh basically the water so again i went to walmart.com and I got the, so they have the 40 pack of water at 536 a piece. I got 10 of those. So that's like 50 gallons roughly.

So then, yeah, so I was kind of thinking diversity as well. So I kind of went the beans and rice uh the tex in there the the old man from texas uh he sent me a list of stuff to get a long time ago and uh basically i put two buckets of that already aside um this is kind of this is basically mimicking some of my buckets that I have. And so I put the two, two green split peas, four black, black eyed peas for our four bags. These are in bags,

basically four small bags of the red beans, two bags of the number 50, the 15 bean soup. And then I really liked the canned chicken. I have a crap ton of that stuff stocked and I've got stuff that I'm pretty sure is past expiration date. Uh, can is still good. I've had, I've eaten it quite a bit. It's, it tastes just fine. Uh, and so the, they sell them in four packs. Uh, so I got, I said, just do four, uh, four of those, uh, four, four-packs. One big thing of long grain rice. I think that was 20 pounds of rice, if I remember right.

Two pinto bean bags of pinto beans and then a bag of – a four-pound bag of small red beans. I'm pretty sure – I think I did my math right. Like I said, I don't – if I didn't, don't yell at me. I'm stupid. Public school. But I i came in quick math says you're right yeah i just i just came in at just under 30 000 calories for two weeks at 152 bucks uh and i i threw in for diversity i threw in um four things of the just pasta sauce and four boxes of spaghetti. Uh, I love spaghetti and pasta sauce and that stuff. Uh, you can,

and I mean, and you can use that pasta sauce for, and the rice, uh, then the rice and beans, you can use it for multiple things. Um, and the biggest thing that I've started doing is look at,

uh, the, the price per, I think it's price per ounce. They'll break it down to like 67 cents per ounce stuff like that and that's that's a pretty interesting way to look at some things so uh but yeah so that's uh like i said and i kind of threw in also the other thing too is i put some of the these are buckets that i have downstairs in my basement i've had them now since i moved in so almost just over a year almost a

year and a half i've had these buckets sitting down in the basement um i haven't popped them and checked on them at all i really don't want to but uh i threw in there in the buckets though i threw in a couple bags of noodles i threw in uh because i did throw i threw in oxygen oxygen oxygen absorbers and i threw in uh uh what is it the to take away desiccant you know and stuff so basically i felt comfortable with throwing in uh throwing in some like noodles some dried noodles and stuff like that because honestly i mean that stuff it's dried it's not i mean it's it's the same thing right up there with dehydrated meals in a way really um the other thing too is you could supplement out if you wanted to uh i'm a big fan of at meyer they sell them or not meyer sorry if you're michigan uh in indiana and ohio maybe you know what meyer is uh but walmart uh

it's the norm meals oh norm meals are really really good i have a stack a ton of those uh they have the shells and the broccoli and cheese and all kinds of stuff so all you got to do is boil some water uh and let it and boil water and let it sit for seven minutes i believe and you're good to go so uh i believe like if you want to supplement stuff out or even add it those are usually pretty cheap so i definitely would recommend highly recommend throwing those in because again, they're already dehydrated, uh, or not, you know, not cooked. Uh, so all you gotta do is I, I think in the buckets, I actually have five or so packs, uh, of normals also added to the list of what I have.

So, and one of those buckets was enough food for one person for a month. So yeah, and I got two of them downstairs, I believe if I remember right. So yeah, and I plan on putting a couple more up. But yeah, so that's my list.

Nice. So just to close the loop here all three of us went straight for rice and beans 100% I did drop in some Vienna a bunch of Vienna sausages

and tuna fish just because like I can't speak for everybody else but when I was in iraq i i was getting people to send me like packs of tuna fish all the time and i would i would literally like rip the top off put in a put in a squirt of mayonnaise and i'd stir it in a little bit of tony sashries and i'd eat it right out of it right out of the pack you know like to me those are my snacks or whatever you want to call it.

Like those are the thing that if I was out working on something and I needed a little pick-me-up, I'd throw a can of tuna fish or a can of – or a full pack of tuna fish. Or I'd throw a can of Vienna sausages in my pocket and, you know, get that protein in me to prop me back up until I got home to eat. But we all went for some kind of canned meat. The two of you had some vegetables and some grains and everything there that i didn't but we were all well within that 150 100 to 150 range like if i would have put enough water in to equal what y'all had i'd have been right at about 100 bucks i mean i also so between the water the amount of water i put in too was the thought of uh The amount of water I put in, too, was the thought of strictly cooking with, really, and maybe drinking.

I mean, I'm hoping if something goes on, I have enough filters that I could lean on if needed. You were about eight gallons more water than I was, though, Andrew. Yeah. I was right at 42. You were at at 50 phil you were at 14 yeah i said a gallon a day but that wasn't accounting for what yeah that's absolute bare minimum yeah but you know with the rice you are going to need some for cooking yeah okay so i mean double yeah double that but even the water you know i'm going to impress y'all by doing this math in my head it's not going to work well double the water. I'm going to impress y'all by doing this math in my head. It's not going to work well.

But I'm going to try. So while Phil's trying to do math in his head, Greg will raise an interesting question. Why no canned meats other than the Vienna sausages and chicken and tuna and whatnot? Well, if you look at lentils, so red beans, various other lentils, you can get most of the proteins you need and most of the,

some of the fats you need in those. And canned meats are way more expensive than canned beans or dry beans. I guess the one thing I could have thought about throwing it on here, but I was just sticking to strictly just food that was you just had to cook some water and go. But I thought about throwing on here canning supplies

because I have canned venison in my pantry right now from 2019. I guarantee it's still good. As long as a seal holds, it's fine. It's still sealed. It's still good to go.

That stuff, I would definitely, in these preps, in this kind of stuff, I would definitely in these preps, uh, and even, you know, in this kind of stuff, I would definitely be throwing in, uh, stuff to do, uh, canned, uh, canned meat. Even if you take the chicken, I mean, something happens and you're, I don't know, food falls off the shelf and you're canned, uh, you're canned chicken, uh, pops open or cracks or something or whatever. I mean, you can take that, throw it in a jar, and you can can it in the jar, and it'll stay. It'll be just fine.

Yeah, it should be, assuming you pressure canned it and it was water-packed. Yeah, that's what I'm saying is you've got water in it and it's pressurized, stuff like that. And yeah, you should be fine. Yeah. You know, this topic got me thinking, not just about food, but about, say, lighting post-hurricane, stuff like that. Lighting post-hurricane, stuff like that. And one thing that I picked up a long time ago, believe it or not, Phil brought up D&D earlier. For D&D table ambiance, those three-hour emergency candles, you can get those suckers on Amazon right now.

$10 for a 24-pack of three-hour emergency just standard candles. So, you know, that's three hours, 24 candles, that's three days worth of light for 10 bucks. So the one thing, and I, I will, I will, I mean, I know they're, they're, they're, they're expensive, uh, for the most part. Uh, but, uh, I have two, uh, led they're from DeVos. Uh, so if you go to DeVos outdoor.com, uh, they're, they're one that I bought, they're about $159 a piece. Uh, but they are a led light that comes with a stand and the light, uh, it's rechargeable. They have a battery pack that you can buy for like 50 bucks that is an extension on it or you can use it to charge whatever or they i believe they also do have some solar panels

that you can throw on there to charge it up as well but i use those for camping since i bought them and i hands down i would recommend those to every single person that if they're looking for lighting, these things are hands down. I think the best that you can get besides a generator and maybe a spotlight of some kind. Or, yeah, if you want a portable lantern, OK, that's one thing. But these things, the space that they light up is insane. What's the battery life on the charge? Let me see if, let me see their spec sheet.

I personally, I charged them when I first bought them and I've used them multiple times now. And I've yet to charge them up. I don't, I mean, I've used them probably a dozen times or so. So let's see here. While you're trying to figure that out,

Guyly Comments said, can candles bring water to a boil? Eventually. You're going to use a lot of them. Well, it depends on how much water. You know, eventually is probably the right. Andrew, I don't want to cause you to lose your train of thought. You're fine. I got it. Go ahead. I was going to say that in terms of what...

Now again, in the vein we're going in, we're thinking ost ostensibly two week long emergency because that's that's where we started. That's a reasonable level to build up to very quickly. And that's the time period that the food and water we outlined was supposed to last. Which, by the way, when I redid mine to double the water, it came out like one hundred and one bucks. OK, so we're all 40 bucks of each other. Yeah, 50 bucks. Okay, so we're all within like 40 bucks of each other. Yeah.

50 bucks. So honestly, like my thought, as far as like lighting, I would say don't overcomplicate things. Go buy a cheap ass flashlight and buy a pack of batteries. Or two packs of batteries if you're feeling really, you know, extra. Headlight. That will last you two weeks. Headlights, yep, you can get them at Walmart. They're freaking dirt cheap. Buy a bunch of them.

But as far as like boiling water, I'm going to tell you that probably... Coleman Camp Soap. Yes, but it depends. If you're talking about boiling enough rice for a single person. Jet boil. Yeah, jet boil or like I have an MSR pocket rocket that screws onto the top of the little red gas cans, which, by the way, those little red gas cans that are the MSR fuel, you kind of need those if you're in a super cold environment. You do. you kind of need those if you're in a super cold environment you do but but because the the mixture of the isobutane and everything is appropriate for like i think everything down like negative

whatever but if you're not in a really cold environment i think but if you're not a really cold environment you live down here where i do where it never sees negative 25 you can get the cheap big coleman brand fuel cans and the msr pocket rocket screws right onto the top of them and it's a can twice as big for half the money and i've used that 40 50 degrees it's never sputtered never given me any trouble it's a dramatically cheaper fuel option that works with something like an msr pocket rocket too if you're trying to save some money and you don't need the extreme cold weather performance. And the only thing of it is that something that size

with an appropriately small pot will work for a single person. But if you're in my situation cooking for me, my wife, and my daughter, yes, something like the old school green Coleman camp stove. I have two. And yeah, something like that is going to be a very cost-efficient option. You can probably find them at garage sales, honestly. They're so frigging ubiquitous, and they're bulletproof. I actually have inherited both of mine.

They stick around so long. I did not inherit mine, but mine's down there on the floor behind me. And yeah, I've literally cooked for like 12, 14, 15 people off of those two burners. I mean, if you want to talk dollar per meal cooked, you really can't beat those Coleman propane stoves, especially if you have a dual fuel or a tri-fuel generator that takes propane. You're going to have propane anyway for your grill, probably at home, your big grill. You're going to have propane maybe for your generator. But you can get an adapter that will tie right on to your big propane tank,

your 40-pound or 20-pound propane tank, and that will fuel your Coleman grill for months. That's about $15, $20 on Amazon. Absolutely money well spent. that's about 15 20 bucks on amazon absolutely money well spent because the little the little green one pound cylinders are like last i checked they were about eight bucks a whack and that gets expensive fast yeah i got um i have the jet boil genesis base camp and that thing is that thing is solid uh i've been super happy with it i have an adapter line that actually goes to a five gallon propane tank. And so,

and I've been using that throughout the summer and it's been doing pretty good for me. I do have in the back of my, in the back of my drawer system, I do have four, no three, because I did loan one out. I had, I had usually have four of the one gallon propane

oh the little green jobbers i usually have like i had four of those sitting back there just in case that uh the five gallon ran out i kick over to that because i still have the i still have the line and everything it goes right to those so uh but yeah i mean what what whether it's coleman whether it's jet boil whatever it is Jetboil, whatever it is, obviously have a decent way of cooking or boiling your stuff versus I need to make a fire. I don't know how many times I went camping before I had some of this stuff where I had more, it was more of the smaller pot. And it was like, yeah, I don't really feel like cooking anything because I don't want to boil water.

I don't want to make a fire to boil water uh so or cook over or anything like that so having something quick that you can set up is nice so well the the speed at which those jet boils and msr pocket rockets and hey everybody makes a knockoff version of those nowadays they don't work about the same but some you get some efficiency gains with the better ones but the speed at which they'll boil water for a mountain house or whatever is so much faster than even those little solo stoves. Yeah. The twig-fueled stoves. I've got one of those

too, as well as a... I can't remember what the name of it is, but it's the green version of the MSR. Yeah. But it takes about half the time. If you're crunched for time, it's worth it. The other thing

of it is that the reason why I have a solo stove in my pack and I have an MSR Pocket Rocket is because, Andrew and I talked about this way back when, but I point out to him, down here in my local environment, I have two things that work against me for preparedness. One is

the fact that there's a lot of saltwater intrusion, so even bodies of water you would think are fresh and drinkable are brackish. And the other problem I have is half of it's under freaking water most of the time. So, yes, I might

luck out and find some good tinder or some good wood, but more than likely I'm going to find something that's either wet or rotten or wet and rotten or made of asbestos. So it's just like, you know, having the ability to screw that pocket rocket down onto the top of the gas can and make fire and make stuff work quickly, that's worth spending a couple of months on so i mean that's the thing is the i have a knockoff pocket rocket that i think i got from amazon for like four bucks or five bucks and it definitely shows that i mean i've had it for a

long ass time uh but it's starting to show i think the the part that actually does the spark it broke the super glue broke on it and so now it doesn't do a spark anymore so i'm probably gonna end up buying an msr but uh i'm getting ready i'm getting ready to go to colorado for alcon and it i'm looking at like i'll probably take my jet boil for at camp but for hiking and going through the mountains and stuff like that, I mean, I'll probably end up taking that pocket rocket. And I have what's nice about the fuel canisters. If you get the smaller ones or even the midsize ones, I think Walmart sells it, too, in the camping section. But you can get the the it's an all in one.

It gets two pots. Basically, the smaller pot fits into the bigger one that has it's around. And then it goes into a uh like a fabric mesh uh carrying that right there that holds that's what i have two uh of the fuel uh so two of the fuel uh canisters for the stove fit into that small into the inside uh pot so you carry that, you have your fuel, now you just have to pull out the pocket rocket and you're good to go.

I mean, as long as you have water and stuff, you're solid. So that's the way to go. Yeah, for any kind of backpacking, get-home bag, bug-out bag, for speed and efficiency of weight, you can't beat those pocket rockets. So one thing nobody's talked about yet as we talk about poor boy prepping is medical,

which a lot of times, but it doesn't have to be. It doesn't have, is that to shoot yourself if something goes wrong? There's your meat, your protein right there if they get hurt. Cannibalism does not have to be at the first resort.

Kelmanita. Andrew went there right off the top. If the stream gets booted off YouTube, thank you, by the way. It'll be fine. So what I was going to say was like medical can get histrionically expensive, but it doesn't have to be. So a lot of times when I start talking to people in the preparedness community about medical, they immediately go to like, you know, the tourniquets and the chest seals and the IFACs and all that stuff, right? But what is the most commonly, what are the three most commonly things that fall into the medical corral that you think you're going to need. Three most commonly used items.

Burn cream. Burn cream. Tweezers. Yep. Not what I was going to go for. I was going to say band-aids, burn cream, and alcohol. Yeah, yeah. Alcohol.

I mean, look, it burns like a bastard, but if you need to decontaminate something or if you have a wound that you need cleaned out, alcohol is brutal, but it will do the job. Yeah, ice packs. So you can get, yeah. Now, if we want to expand out just a little bit further than that, ice packs, 4x4s, and cohesive bandage can be found at most drugstores. So what I'm suggesting is that in the vein of poor boy prepping, don't think you have to run to your nearest whatever and go buy 15 cat tourniquets. Start by going down to your local Walgreens or CVS or whatever your local drugstore is. Everclear is not necessarily the best prep for us. Everclear is the cheapest way to get drunk.

Well, it is the cheapest way to get drunk, but Everclear, you can use it. It's a multipurpose thing. So you can use it for a barter. It's an excellent fuel. You can use it for fuel. You can use it to get drunk. You can use it to sanitize. So I would definitely use it.

A little sanitized within an inch of your life, that's for sure. Yep. But, yeah, ice packs, heat packs. If you have a person who's fighting hypothermia, you need to put some of those up against their body to warm up. But you can find all that stuff in reasonably well-stocked drugstores. Don't overcomplicate this. Just walk up and down the aisles and look at your wound care options

that you can get at a local drugstore. Pick up ibuprofen and Tylenol. Because I'm going to tell you that fever control is not super complicated. But again, if I find a person that says, I've got 15 Ivax and 45 cat tourniquets, but you don't have a huge bottle of Tylenol sitting on your shelf someplace for when somebody pops a fever, I look at you funny. Because you missed step one, which was start at the simple end of things.

And then we start talking about the stuff that you put on Instagram to impress your friends. Well, the thing is, though, is people think when you think medical, people think worst case disaster scenario of car accidents, chainsaw, whatever it be. A lot of people think about that. But yeah, start simple. Band-Aids. You're gonna... Moleskine. That's another one that came to mind too. Moleskine and Coban.

I mean, you can do... Even if you said, I'm going to skip the tourniquet for right now and you bought an Israeli bandage. With the Israeli bandage and everything, with the Israeli bandage and everything. I mean, you know,

there are certain ways that you can, uh, wrap a wound to, uh, eventually stop the bleeding. Uh, if it's something pretty bad, uh,

either that, or they're just going to cease to exist. And that's how you also stop the bleeding is when they bleed out. So, uh, but yeah, think simple band-aids. I think I got in my med-Aids, I think I got

in my med kit. I think I bought four boxes of an assortment of sizes for Band-Aids. There were like 100 each. Here's something most people are not going to call. The adhesive on those does

go bad, does dry out so over time you will need here's something most people are not more in there yeah one thing most people will not consider medical but i i will die on the hill every time that it is is work gloves yes because if you can prevent an injury you don't need the medical stuff. And this is why, like, the day after Hurricane Ida, when my wife and I were starting to, like, clear the front yard. Because, I mean, y'all have seen the pictures. Like, you couldn't see the front of my house from the street. That's how many trees fell. But I told my wife from the word go.

I'm like, no one is allowed in the yard without closed-toed shoes, long pants, and work gloves. Because I understood, and so did my wife understood very quickly, that if one of us gets a puncture or a skin infection or something starts going bad, hospitals are the last place on earth you want to be right now, given everything that's going on. So let's ounce of prevention, pound a cure type of thing. Yes, triple antibiotic ointment. I recommend that rather than the alcohol if you have small children. Because let's just say that, oh, it feels a hell of a lot better.

I have a whole box of individually wrapped alcohol prep pads under my sink. And you can buy them off Amazon really, really cheap. Like a pretty good size box of them i don't know how many hundred are in there but here's the thing of it i throw a handful in every one of my kits and i throw a handful into the truck they're individually wrapped in little foil packs they're they're great for a lot of things but alcohol and open wound um let's just say that someone's going to teach you new vocabulary words if you use that on them. I use it on myself because I just don't care.

But if you have to hold down a small child and scrub out a wound with an alcohol prep pad, you will really rather you had some antibiotics. The other one that I would say, I mean, going off of gloves, is I would have a couple different pairs of gloves. So I have, I think I got, I have a couple, like, shoot, mechanics. I have a couple pairs of mechanics. Yeah, the fast fits. Yeah, the fast fits, stuff like that. But for fire, when I'm around a fire, tractor supply, if you got one around you, or even i mean a even a farm a farm store or whatever

i think meyer or sorry walmart might have them too but anyway it's the the old cowhide uh cowhide gloves uh get those i when i'm dealing with fire uh the i will i've reached into fire i've um i've adjusted you know basically adjusted uh wood i've picked up wood out of fire i picked up pots out of the fire rocks out of the fire i mean yeah obviously they do get hot and they will get hot and they will burn you over within a you know a few seconds i mean but at least those are thick uh those are thick enough to where you can deal with some fire you can deal with hot stuff that's hot uh without the stuff melting to your hand uh like the mechanic is the reason walters gloves are made of leather yeah uh so yeah

so i would definitely get i have a couple pairs of those uh in my in my drawer system and that's one of the first things i grab when i'm dealing with and they're thick enough to where hopefully if you're doing anything with an axe uh yeah, if you chop down hard enough, your finger is going to come off. But if you're doing anything with cutting and stuff like that, something thick like that will help with that kind of stuff. Yep. So as we've got like five minutes left or so, like is there anything else we're just being morons and overlooking?

Like we've got personal protection. We've got medical. We start off with food and water. And we're looking for that low-hanging fruit that if a person came to you and said, hey, dude, I need preparedness right now. Maverick88. Something that... Damn, that's hard to argue with.

I mean, look, is is it gonna be as nice as Andrew's 1301 mod 2 no but it works I mean what's the price on a what's the price on a Mossberg Maverick 88 which is a 12 gauge for those of you out there who don't know

if I could type let's see what 300 bucks for those of you out there who don't know. If I could type. Let's see. I think it's like, what, 300 bucks? They want me to verify my age. 293. 293 for MSRP. So call it 400 bucks with a chunk of ammo.

250 probably. Well, call it $400 with tags and some ammo. And a sling. Trying to think of if there's anyone out there, if there's anything in the handgun realm that beats that except for a high point. Use Glock 17? I mean, does that have to be

a police trade-in? You'd have to get a screaming deal on a friggin' even a police trade-in Glock to come in under that with some ammo. Wasn't one of the patrons sending one out that was like $2.25 or something?

Okay, so maybe a pawn shop special Glock. Yeah, maybe something to use. But brand new, you're not really going to beat the versatility or the value over a Maverick 88. Yeah, maybe you find a pawn shop 870 or Mossberg 500 or something like that. Well, what are you... We're not going to go Turkish shotguns. I mean, the thing is, though, is if you have...

Are you saying pump, semi-auto, or just a shot like that? No, I'm just saying for a firearm in general, for a versatile self-defense firearm in general. I mean, you're going to have a hard time beating that. If you want to do a poor boy prepping, I believe it is called, oh, I think it's McCoy. I think it was like a Henry McC mccoy or not henry mccoy jesus um i think it's a mccoy 12 gauge i could be wrong i i have one of my safe i haven't taken out in years it's a single shot 12 gauge 100 bucks at walmart oh i know what you're talking about yeah yeah yeah so it's a single barrel cracker right it's a break barrel single shot it kicks like a

freaking mule uh 28 inch barrel yeah i mean it would. But, you know, the functionality difference between a break barrel, single shot, and a pump action is significant. I mean, it's worth a couple hundred bucks. But, yeah, I guess if you had to. If you're prepping on a budget and you have $200 to spend and you got to get ammo with that, I would say you buy a $100, uh, the half it's a Hatfield, a 12 gauge shotgun. Uh,

you buy the $100 shotgun and then you buy a, an assortment of slugs and birdshot and buckshot and stuff like that. And then there was another company. I cannot think of the name off the top of my head. It's been over a year since i've heard about them but there's another company that they actually sold a insert that you could actually insert a it's basically a insert that goes inside of that the 12 gauge of the breech there when you crack it open and it downsizes it to a 22, a 9mm, and I think a.45. Oh, yeah, I remember hearing about those.

Yeah, and so you could always get those, and then you have, I mean, obviously it's not going to be 100%, but if you were prepping on a budget, one shotgun and, yeah, break action, which is a little slower, but one shotgun and some utility break action, which is a little slower, but one shotgun and some utility or a couple things and you could have a multi tool.

And if you're if $100 sounds like it's cutting into your drinking budget too much and you're a tiny little bit industrious, I have it on good faith that you can make a slam-fired shotgun out of some water pipe from a hardware store. Black gas pipe. Black gas pipe, that's right.

Yeah, there is a specific size of black gas pipe that I guarantee your local hardware store has that will fit a 12-gauge round in perfectly, and it is capable of handling that pressure. So I don't have it handy, but if anyone reaches out to me on social media because you're a fellow miscreant and psychopath and you like to read old obsolete field manuals, I cannot confirm, but I may or may not have the FM number you can Google that will tell you how to make improvised firearms in Minecraft.

I just don't have that FM handy, but I do remember that it is publicly available. Your taxpayer-funded manual for how to make homemade expedient firearms, courtesy of the U.S. Army.

Yes. Well, I i mean you know our our special forces taught most of the third world how to make them so i was gonna say they were doing it by you know foreign governments and it seemed to work out well for them at least at least it works well enough to snipe somebody and then take their stuff if they get nicer stuff than you have. I mean, traditionally, that's how it's worked. I mean, look at the French underground fighters in World War II. We were dropping.45 caliber unrifled Liberator single-shot pistols. And the idea was you walked up behind a German sentry, took advantage of his distraction, and walk off with a very nice Mauser. Yes.

Or even better, a squirt gun. And probably a cool uniform and some grenades and yeah. Well, depending on the era. Alright, so I guess let's start

to round this up. Is there anything we left out that our burgeoning but financially challenged preppers should look into immediately and quickly to get them spun up? I feel like we kind of covered a decent cross-section. You know, there's one thing we didn't think about. Hmm. think about. Even if you're not in a group, a two-way radio of some kind, preferably

one that can get NOAA signals. Okay. Because at the very least, then you can get weather updates and news, because they'll give you emergency news broadcasts off those little handhelds. So, a Baofeng UB5R is like $20 to $25 off of Amazon.

But if you don't want to be a radio nerd and talk to strange men outside of Grindr, and what you want is Intel and NOAA weather frequencies, you can usually get, again, in most camping sections, you can usually find the little bitty emergency radios that are receive only like yeah that'd be fantastic just even just for the weather reports so you know if there's more storm coming so i've actually got one that's sitting in my uh sitting in the camping box over here and i totally forgotten about it and while we were at the campsite last weekend my daughter

found it and turned it on and was like dialing in different channels and everything and flipping it to the NOAA stations and it was it was funny because at some point she was like wow these are so easy to use and I mean

she was like you know if you try to listen to the radio on your phone you gotta have an app and you gotta do this and you gotta do that and this is cool and I was like, you know, if you try to listen to the radio on your phone, you've got to have an app and you've got to do this and you've got to do that. This is cool. I was like, welcome to the miracles of RF floating around in the atmosphere hunting. So cool, it got boring. Yeah.

Then I showed her how my GMRS radios can also tune in to all those FM stations and the NOAA channels. That held her interest for a couple of seconds, and then she got bored with it. Yeah, yeah. But, you know, no, that's a good point. I kind of feel like we gave everybody enough to

chew on, though, that again, like, for the person who because I know from my perspective and I know what I what a lot of people I've talked to butted heads against it's this idea that, like to to become to prep you have to have all this money and now i gotta buy all this stuff and i call you know and like i i don't know about y'all but i know that when i first started down the preparedness road like i made literally half what i do now and i was supporting i was

supporting yeah and i was supporting a wife and a kid and paying a mortgage. It's one of those situations where it's like, I sympathize with that. I know how crippling that can be and how close to giving up you can feel like. It's going to take me forever to get there. But that's why I wanted to do this episode. I wanted to give somebody food for thought and say, you can start this at a reasonable level in a reasonable time frame for reasonable money and then you just build on it over time because i feel like once you once you give a person that that two weeks base layer you know the shotgun the the the cvs bag

full of friggin stuff they got from the drugstore for their medical, the two weeks of food and water. It's not MREs. It's not tourniquets. It's not cool guy stuff. It's not an AR-15 and the chest rig and the body armor and all that silly shit. It's enough to... It's fun, but this is enough to get you into the game so that you're

going to last two weeks longer than you would have otherwise. And then from there, we can layer you up and build on it until you're wherever you want to be and you know what unlike the body armor you're always going to eat so even if you don't need the food for a blizzard or a hurricane or a tornado or a wildfire or whatever all right you lost your Great. You got two weeks of groceries you don't have to buy. That buys you two weeks. Yep.

And can I just say that having a substantial food reserve does lend a not insignificant amount of comfort when you're facing down things like job loss or when you're facing down things like, oh, I might be a couple of weeks or a month without a paycheck. Because I just tell myself, I'm like, you know what? I can tell you the one thing we're not going to run out for the next six months. It's food. And that gives you so much peace. And you know what? Don't aim for six months right out the gate. Three days. Start with three days. Don't even aim for two weeks. Three days is easy. I would tell people at this point, aim for two weeks because we've already shown them two weeks is easy.

Yeah, but if you're running a budget where you've only got, say you're running really tight and you've only got $20 extra at the end of a week and you can't drop the hundred bucks in one crack, 10 bucks every grocery store trip, pick up a couple extra cans of food, make it easy, make it affordable for yourself. Do not go into debt for this. Goddamn. Nope.

I'm going to, we're going to shoehorn in that financial preparedness episode when Andrew's not here. Cause every time I do, I can hear him trying to use the keyboard to slit his wrist as I talk about money and finances and debt for like an hour. Hey, if you don't have your finances in order, something is going to come out of the woodwork and hit you in the head. Yes. Every time. But we will save Yes. Every time. But I'll be the. But.

We will save that for another time. Andrew you got anything you want to slide in here. Before we sign out for the end. No. Seems like we covered everything pretty good. Okay. So. In closing.

Go check out disastercoffee.com. So that when Andrew gets those coffee cups there. Y'all can purchase one or a few if you would like. Andrew, I expect two. Two! Sideline for me and my wife. I'll pay for the shipping. I'll pay for the cups if you want.

But I want two cups. He is totally blowing me off right now. Yeah. All right. And for those of, for the seven of you who are still watching this stream. So there's a funny little thing that I, we implemented recently and stream yard gave us the ability to like preset an outro video and I have preset it.

But since this is the first night we're running it, I don't know what's actually going to fire when I hit this button. So when I hit this button, if it goes straight to a black screen, you're not going to hear me cursing into the microphone because StreamYard screwed me over. But if you do see the outro video, it'll be with a sigh of relief, and we'll talk to you all another week. Bye, everybody. Bye.

See ya. We'll be right back. Thank you.