The Prepper Broadcasting Network - Matter of Facts: Prepper Movie Review

Episode Date: October 27, 2025

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Welcome back to the Matterfax podcast on the Prepar Broadcasting Network. We talk prepping guns and politics every week on iTunes, Stitcher, and Spotify. Go check out our content at MOFpodcast.com on Facebook or Instagram. You can support us via Patreon or by checking out our affiliate partners. I'm your host Phil Ravillay, Andrew and Nick are on the other side of the mic, and here's your show. And welcome back to Matter of Facts podcast. After an unintentional week off, we'll get to that in just a second after we do some quick admin work. So the name of the episode is Prepper Movie Review.

The patrons are not the ones that inspired this actually, even though they inspire a lot of our content and a lot of our, they throw a lot of questions at us. This one is actually something that I think, I'm not sure if it was my idea or Nick's idea, but it's been rolling around for a while. I think it came up in the after show actually with Rebel. Hmm. I want to say it was around even longer than that. It might have been. We've we've talked about it on and off. We've talked about doing it for a while. I mean, we kind of leaned into it a little bit when we talked about Civil War and then, you know, the Bannhammer got, you know, on top of our head multiple times. Oh, yeah, they didn't, they apparently really didn't like a showing clips from that.

Oh, well. Yeah, yeah. Fair use. What fair use. But anyway, but the patrons do usually have an inside road to dropping topics on it. So if you'd like to become a patron, you can follow the link in the show description, start at a dollar a month. Contribute as much as you feel the urge to or as much you can slide by your spouse, whichever comes first. If you'd like merch, you could support us and support small business. That link is also in the show description.

I cannot fit into any of the shirts that I have from them for reasons I'll get into in just a minute. It's a little embarrassing, but for y'all, I'll bear my heart and soul. And take y'all's abuse because I deserve it. Cypressurvivist. The link is in the show description. Our first annual camping trip is coming up in November. If you'd like to come and hang out in the woods with a dork who's going to run around in the night with night vision and probably talk on radios to weird people. If that sounds like your bucket of fun and going on some hiking trips and just sitting around a campfire getting a couple of cool families, then you should follow that link in the show description.

Come out and see us. Southeast Louisiana will be at Boguchita State Park. So I'm not going to say you shouldn't drive multiple. hours to come and see us, but, you know, I'm certainly not worth a 500-mile drive. I don't think. Unless you're a sociopath, then there might be bad. We had fun at summer camp. We did have fun at summer camp.

But y'all are all certifiable nutcases, so there's that. True. True. And since Nick has told me I need to do capitalism better, code M-O-F at Disaster Coffee, it actually doesn't give me a kick-up. I am a part owner in the company in the name of full disclosure. Me and the other two owners don't take money off the top or off the bottom or out of the middle to support, like, you know, our PMAG habit. It is purely a discount code to save you 5% on your purchase so you can get some really good coffee at a little bit of a discount.

We really should talk coffee one time. I mean, I could talk about coffee for an hour, but everybody else will tune out inside of 20 minutes. coffee is good I'm one of those people that I like my coffee pre-ground so I can just dump it in the whatever pot I happen to have just man I grew up blue collar

anything other than Folgers is a step up here I see I also grew up blue collar and drinking red can Folgers like a heathen but I've elevated my taste and I am determined to pollute your poor little mind with my coffee nerd autism. You eventually will succeed because I do enjoy a good cup of coffee. I just, my God, man, at 4.30 in the morning, you're lucky I get the count of scoops right

and I hit the right button on the pot. That's why I set up. It's early. That's why I said my coffee pod has a timer feature and I set it at night the night before so that as I'm putting on my pants in the morning, I hear, bing, and then the gurgling noise. That might be worth happening. That is always worth happening. But anyway, I've got just the.

Mr. Coffee that you click it on and it stays on for like three hours. I mean, that works too. It does. I mean. Then again, I also have a full espresso bar in my house. You do. You might like coffee more than I do.

I don't know where the line is between I like and I'm addicted, but I'm definitely flirting with it. Look, you can stop whenever you want. You just don't want to stop. I can't stop. If I stop drinking coffee, bad things start happening. Oh. Okay. A couple of comments. I need a poster of what would Bert do. We actually have that shirt at the Southern Cowls. It's hilarious shirt, but I can't fit into mine anymore, which we'll get to. You could just staple it to your wall like it is a poster. I mean, yeah, but I'm hoping to get back down to the size I could wear it again.

No, I'm talking about who was that? Jeff, Jack. Jeff? I'm saying for Jeff, just order the shirt. Staple it to your wall or hang it like you're not a heathen. Raggle agrees with me. Folgers is, um, ble. Yeah, I, I largely drink better coffee than Folgers now, but work supplies free Folgers and free coffee is better than no coffee.

Ah, I'll allow that one. I'll allow that one. Yeah. But anyway, so, first of all, where were we lazy slaggers last week? So a week ago, Wednesday. I was pulling up into my house in the afternoon after I got up of work. And AT&T was like all up and down my street, drilling holes in the ground and laying fiber optic lines. And I was kind of excited because the opportunity to upgrade from copper to fiber and increase my download speeds for anywhere from six to ten times. So the same money is a happy meal waiting to happen.

And then I walk into the front door. My daughter tells me, hey, the Internet's out. Because those same expedient gentlemen that were drilling holes in my lawn to put in fiber, apparently drilled a hole directly through my copper line. Despite the fact that AT&T themselves, the utility company, and Jesus have been all over this neighborhood, spray paint lines in thereby's grass for weeks to get ready for this. And these Jemokes still managed to freaking punch a hole through my copper lines. So, well, Phil, have you ever tried to locate lines with one of those little beepers? No, can't say I have. It is not a science.

It is definitely a bit of an art. It's kind of like metal detecting where you're listening to the sound and you're doing your best. Well, that which it might be, the gentleman that were laying in the fiber optic line didn't seem too troubled by the fact that they hit their own line. Oh, God, no. That's not their fault. That's the locator's fault. Not their problem either. So I had to put in the trouble ticket.

My internet got restored Friday, late afternoon evening. And quite frankly, you know, between your schedule and my schedule, we just didn't have a good opportunity like really until. It was a busy weekend. Yeah. Usually on the weekend, like we can free up and make some things happen. But last weekend was just no. Like you were jammed. I was jammed.

It was still what happened. Yeah. My grandma, she starts putting up Christmas deck. decorations about this time of year every year. And there were eight people hauling up Christmas trees on Sunday. It took all morning. Yeah. That was mostly just the trees.

Yes, Fraggle. I had some choice words. But the really frustrating part is, you know, like, I have this. You still don't have faster internet. But hear me out. I have this freaking enormous uninterruptible power spy right here underneath the desk specifically sized so that if the power goes out, I can run the router and this freaking desktop and these lights.

I can run all this stuff and keep a show going for about an hour and 10 minutes on battery power before the stream dies. And I did that because once or twice, we lost power in the middle of a stream and I had to hear it from freaking Stewart for weeks afterwards about why I didn't have a UPS. So I got that. And then my ISP dies. And I'm just like, I can't win. I fix a problem.

And then a new problem presents itself. Yeah. Raggle does raise a good point. Christmas decor before Thanksgiving is questionable before Halloween is forbidden. Not for my grandma. At one point, there was over a hundred lit trees. in her house oh my um yeah it takes quite literally it will take from now until thanksgiving for her to finish her christmas decorations and then she starts giving tours to people so it needs to start

sooner because the first christmas tour is the week after thanksgiving oh my it's a bit extra but it's awesome. It sounds amazing. So I don't have a banner for this, but the reason I cannot fit into any of the Southern Gal's shirts anymore is because I, since I've started going back to the office in person and I'm no longer working from home, I have completely shirked my moderate attempts at maintaining my girlish figure,

completely stopped walking in the afternoons, just complete like, you know, it was still keeping it in my diet because I have to, do that to keep my hypoglycemia under control. But I, Captain Thickham's over here put on some pounds. And when I got on the scale this past week and it said 260, I was a little bit ashamed of myself. So I've walked. We've all been there, man. I've walked

every day since Monday. I've going to continue to kick my big chunky butt every day until that scale says something I'm happier with. Preferably under 240 pounds. I mean, honestly, if I get back down to like 220, 2.30, I'm really in a good range where I feel like I'm in a better position and I'm just in better shape. But I did tell my wife, I'm like, you know, I have some goals and they have nothing to do with the scale. Yeah. You might have heard years ago, like Andrew was going to come to town and Tommy was going to come to town and we were going to hike this thing called the Tammany Trace down here.

Yes, I do remember that. At the time, it was 34, 35 miles. It's been added on to since then. Now it's 40 plus miles. That's a good four or five day hike. Well, here's the thing, though. You can do it faster than that because it's, it's dead flat, it's paved. It's a walking trail.

It's not like hiking over the woods and up and down and elevation. It's a walking trail. Two days. So what I had originally- Two ass-kicking days. Oh, yeah. But what we had planned on doing was we were going to start and slide out. which is like 20 miles east of here.

Sure. And we were going to hike in this direction, stop at Fount Blue State Park, which is not too far from my house. And we were going to, you know, rent a tent site for the night, turn in there. We were going to hike in with our water, our food, our tents, you know,

and just like rough it out in one-man tents. Nice. And then the next day, pick it up, pack it up, have breakfast, get back on the road. And we were going to two-day hike the trace and stay overnight. Sure. full-blown, you know, like, call it a practice bug out if you want. But it was, it was, it was something we had all wanted to do together.

And then COVID happened. Yeah. And that kind of screwed up, you know, they were talking about shutting out flights. Tommy basically got put on high alert for months after that. He couldn't break away. And Andrew was nervous about coming down because they were talking about canceling airline flights. So he's like, if I fly in, I may not be able to get home. That's a long way to get home in a rental car.

Well, and especially, I mean, even if you can't get one. I mean, there were, there were, buying gas got difficult there for a couple of days. Well, and I mean, especially in like that first three, four weeks, which is when we were talking about doing this. I mean, thanks were a little cuckoo. They were. And there were a lot of unknowns. Yeah. But that is, that's my goal.

I want to hike the Tammany Trace. I wanted to. I want to two day, rough it out, stay and found Blue State Park, bust it out. I'll do it by myself at this point if I have to. But that is the goal I've set for myself to get back into the shape to be able to haul a 35 pound pack and walk it out about 40 miles in two days. Nice. It's going to be. That's a good goal.

It's going to be a butt kicking trip for a 43-year-old guy. It's a butt-kicking trip for anybody. 20 miles in a day is a long way. Yeah. But it can be done. I mean, four miles per hour, you know. Well, I mean, even at three miles per hour, you're still talking about six to seven. seven hours of walking.

Yeah. Budget, budget an hour, budget two hours for, you know, like bathroom breaks and stopping to eat and hydrate and everything and maybe change your socks halfway on the trip. But I mean,

that you can do that during daylight hours. We're not talking about a crazy insurmountable thing. You just need to get your, you need to get your butt nut and gear and you need to go. And it's something that I know I can do once I get myself back into the shape to be able to do it. Sure. Absolutely. I mean, you think about it this way, you know, if you got yourself back down into the, say, what, you're like 260 now, if you can get yourself back down into like the 230s, there's your pack weight right there.

Yeah. I know from experience, though, like my body is really at its happiest right about 220. I can't get lower than that. But then we're talking about like, we're talking about six days a week of some pretty extraneous, you know, pretty extraneous exercise. at a massively different dietary intake. Yeah. And at this point, like, I've always been the person that said, like, you know, when it comes to losing weight or getting in shape, the juice has to be worth the squeeze to me. Because I just, I have no want or need to be a bodybuilder.

I have no want or need to get back down a college weight. I just don't care. To me, when I'm, when I'm not able to do the things I want to do, I need to make a change. Yeah. That's absolutely fair. I want to get back to the weight and the size and the condition. conditioning, leg strength, cardio, and everything else that I can do these long hikes. And I know I can do it, but it ain't going to happen at 260.

No, probably not. I mean, could you, yes, it's going to put unnecessary wear and tear on your joints. Yeah, consider I already have, you know, a blown knee, a blown hip, bad bag. I'm sure that's not service related. Separated shoulder. Yeah. And, you know, multiple problems. Getting, getting into shape will help all of that.

Because it just takes the strain down considerably. Yeah. So call that, you know, bearing your, so bearing my soul hour or 15, you know, 10 minutes. I, I have completely let myself go. And in the name of being a grown up and admitting I screwed up, I admit it. I let myself go. And it's, you know, I told my wife, I'm like, it's a little frustrating for me because, like, given the type of lifestyle we espouse, I'm not living up to it. And I have to, I have to own that.

here's the thing though we all have to live in the modern society that we live in and your your job requires you to be in the office and commuting like two hours a day so if you put in an eight hour day you're putting in a 10 hour day not just that but well and actually i'm putting in a nine hour day because i work nine hour days okay so of those nine hours you're putting in 11 hours and of those nine hours i'm spending conservatively seven to seven and a half of them so sitting in front of a computer banging keys. That's, I mean, yeah, that's a hell of a thing to overcome. I mean, realistically,

it, it, the difference between being up and moving around seven hours a day and being sedentary seven hours a day is like seven or eight hundred calories. But that's, that's why, I mean, I'm coming home and just as soon as Mrs.

Matter of facts is willing to hop up and, you know, throw on her shorts, come for a walk with me. go. And in like the last two days, it's good for both of you. Like today, yesterday and today actually, she came home kind of feeling under the weather, not feeling great. And I told her, I'm like, babe, that's fine. You stay here. I have to go. And I went for my walk because it's one of those things where it's like, we both need the exercise. True. If she's in a position where she

can't, I need to. I have to go. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, because it'll keep you both in the habit. yeah if you got a week where you're sick you're sick but if if one of you is still doing it then once you you're not sick you're okay i'm gonna come with yeah mountain survival one just say it's awesome from 260 to 200 i'm i'm gonna tell you bud like i i can remember the last time i got to this weight it was during covid and it was the same problem we went i went from like you know a mile and a half walk just to get from the park the where i parked in the parking lot to my desk. So I was walking three miles a day, literally just, just get from my truck to the, to my desk.

Nice. And that's on top of like, you know, walking around the building and everything else. Because that was just the way that building was laid out is if you had to go to different apartments, it was a long, skinny building. So you were walking back and forth all day long and going up and downstairs. And then when we started working from home, I literally, my commute was from my bedroom to here. That's a massive reduction in movement. Yeah, and it's massive.

It culminated in me swelling up from like 225 pre-COVID to 262. And there's a very notorious picture on social media of me that one of our friends inadvertently captured. She took a picture dead on from my profile. And I look like, you up doesn't it. I look like I was six months pregnant. Like, it was, it was alarming how big I got. And I knew I was getting bigger. And I knew I didn't feel good.

My joint pain got really bad. My back pain got awful. I didn't feel good. That was the first year I slept like in my one man tent on the ground and I could not get comfortable because I was so heavy. Sleeping on the ground was painful. So I came home and me and Gilling and just like hit it hard. Wop your butt's back in shape. Six months later, I was down in the down in the low two 30s.

I felt tons better. Oh, bad. And I just let it get out from underneath me again. so yeah it's you got to keep up the habits you got to keep moving and and if you can't keep moving you really got to watch what you eat because it is very hard to out exercise your fork yeah because you can eat a full day's worth of calories in a single meal if you are not paying attention it's not difficult it's really not anyway 20 minutes in we've literally talked about nothing but my fat ass and hey health is important man you you have nothing else if you

don't have good health this is true this is true but we came here to talk about right we talk came here to do a prepper movie review and this is probably not the best title for this like maybe prepper movie night or something i don't know we might only do one of these and everybody hate it we never do it again we'll just have to wait and see yes but if me and feel like it you're going to have to suffer just just like everything else that might be a thing but anyway so the rules of engagement. Nick and I each threw a handful of movies into the end of the pod. And the idea here is that like these are movies that don't necessarily have to be preparedness related. But it's movies that we felt like

there's preparer lessons or takeaways from. Absolutely. And of course the very first one that I'm going to throw up here is like you know, probably the ultimate SHTF movie of all times. It's Mad Max. I really shouldn't have to introduce this. But I guess. But I guess we have to, just for that one person who had an awful childhood and didn't get exposed to great cinema. So the idea is that this takes place in Australia, post-ecoposical calamity. If I remember right, wasn't there, wasn't the impetus for this, something like oil, it was like big oil finally ran out? It was, I've heard different fan theories from global thermonuclear war to post-peak oil.

Post-peak oil, I think, was the one that I, that always made the most sense to me. Post-peak oil economic collapse, I've heard. But, yeah, but the idea here is that, like, you know, this is a fairly loose storyline of, like, a buddy cop film, which is Max Rockatansky, played by, um, oh, Jesus, Mel Gibson. Very, very young Mel Gibson, by the way. Oh, very young. I don't think this was, like, the first movie, but this was definitely his breakout role. uh it's definitely one of the ones that made him a star for sure yeah but you have him as a gentleman on the local police force and several friends of his and you start to get the impression fairly

quickly that this is not a normal police force like these guys wear black leather and drive fast cars and motorcycles and they're kind of old testament in the way they deal with people that are mis misbehaving i believe they call that immediate justice film yes but to uh to uh To their credit, like some of the movie scenes, for those of you who are watching the stream, you know, these, the, these gangs that are represented in this film are literally like running a bit down the neighborhood and hit terrorizing the countryside with almost complete impunity. Pulling, pulling people out of cars. A scalding people on the regular. Yeah. Almost doing like shakedown robberies of various things.

Yeah. But the reason I started with this was because we've all heard multiple theories about like what a collapse looks like. And I've always kind of stuck to the idea that collapses are going to happen in slow motion. Like there's a point at which things are definitely bad, but there's still police and there's still courtrooms and there's still law, even though it's not being effectively enforced. So you can't just go full-blown Mad Max. Start whacking people left, right, et cetera. Because sooner or later, someone in a polyester uniform is going to show up with an attitude problem. And you have to deal with that. Maybe rightly so. Maybe rightly so. But the point is, you also have this situation where, like, the main characters, wife and kid get killed by this gang.

Which sends him completely over the edge. And, you know, he becomes Mad Max. Yeah, his wife and kid were explicitly targeted because of the death of Tail Cutter. The guy in the... Tocator at the bottom. No, no, no, no, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Night rider is the guy that kills his family. Tailcutter is the guy, the guy in the car with his flusy.

I think you're the other way around. That's Night Rider in that bottom picture right there. I am fairly certain. We are going to have an argument. Because he says the Knight Rider, he knows who I am. I could be wrong. wrong, but I'm pretty sure Night Rider's the guy with the massive hair.

Unless I'm remembering horribly, and I need to rewatch this entire movie series and force my wife to watch it, too. Quite frankly, you do need to watch the whole thing again. Toecutter is the leader of the motorcycle game. Oh, damn, I am wrong. All right. You heard that, hon. We have to

rewatch the entire Mad Max series starting tomorrow. I'm not a I'm apologizing. Nope. Yes. Crawford, the Knight Rider, Montezano, a member of Toe Cutter's gang. So,

so, yeah, Max winds up whacking the Knight Rider. Toe Cutter gets a little pissy about it, and they end up targeting his family. And after they do that, Max goes mad. Says Screw the badge, steals the,

the Pursuit Special, the MFP Supercharged, VA-powered, hard car and then proceeds just go and dispense justice as you do yes yeah so the interesting thing about this is is you do have my wife says she is requesting an apology from you nope officially right rachel that i'm doing this out of love it needs to happen i was wrong about a movie quote but but you can hold this over his head and extract favors from him later. That's true. That's true. Blackmail is acceptable in relationships. Is it even called

blackmail? Is there just called relationship negotiations? It could be either one. Depends on how it's applied, I guess. But the thing about this movie that really illustrates your point, Phil, of collapse is happening slowly and then all at once is that this, Max and his family, they go on vacation after this. death of Night Rider happens. They go on a family vacation to the beach.

Yeah. And the problems from him being a law enforcement officer follow them. And actually what precipitated, it wasn't just the death of Night Rider, it was the death of his partner Goose that he watched

literally burn alive in Iraq. But yeah, I mean, and, you know, not that I'm drawing direct comparisons, but like given that Portland has pictures of conservative influencers and ICE agents hung up on polls around the city. It's not that outlandish of a scenario. I mean, there are people that are putting hit requests out on federal law enforcement.

I believe the latest was $50,000 from a drug cartel in Mexico. I mean, that's a very elaborate and expensive way to commit suicide, but fine. I suppose that's your choice Yeah But anyway The reason this slide says Mad Max and the road warrior Is because to me

I don't see these really As two separate movies or direct sequels To me this is This is endemic of exactly What you said a minute ago Is that collapse has happened in slow motion And then all of a sudden So in the early stages of collapse

We have some moderate semblance Of law enforcement still taking place some semblance of society where you could still ostensible go take a vacation with your wife and kid there's still gas stations but there's also this very you want to call it random crime but it's not really random it's just lots of pseudo organized crime yeah and then we small scale organized crime and then we eventually get to this point in the road warrior where there is no law there is no order there are no nations there is no government and you are at the point of like you know lord humongous and the combat boots and the spike loincloth and the hockey mask. And Max is still being Max, but you have, in the, in the vacuum caused by the recession of that power being government and law enforcement, what you wind up with is warlords and gangs. Yep. Local power.

Yes. Enforced at the, basically at the point of direct violence instead of implied violence that we have from the power of the state now. Yeah. And, I mean, you know, you also get like the little community that was, that Max wines up buddying up with that is like trying to have some kind of peace in order and they're trying to, you know, stave off the gang that's being aggressive towards them. But I'm going to tell you that groups like that are going to be the exception, not the rule. Yeah, you know, I don't know, you know, cartelification says Jeff, absolutely. Yeah. I don't know so much that they are going to be the exception in the near term. Does that make sense? Because you're going to, you're going to have near term. I agree with that. Not not.

So it. The vast majority of people do not find random violence acceptable. Would you agree with that? I would agree with that. So just generally speaking, if you were to grab any random individual off the. They're probably not, they're not likely to be in favor of random violence, which means that the majority of people are not going to be committing random violence as soon. But point of order. Yeah. At the risk of sounding like an ass, I would also counter with the people that are not willing to use violence are likely to have it use against them. Oh, they absolutely are. And then there are not going to be as many people not willing to use violence because they're all going to be rolled.

that's the thing is the farther you go the longer the longer like tribal conflicts cartel conflicts local warlord conflicts go the closer and closer you get to something like a modern day afghanistan yeah where your family your clan your tribe is what you owe allegiance to and justice is usually immediate or retributive so somebody harmed your family so you go harm them which causes them to harm you which causes blood feuds you know these things can evolve now well phil are you familiar with the fan theory behind mad max um i'm a gigantic nerd so i'm familiar with a number of the theories but which got so so there's there's a fan theory behind all of the mad max movies that the mad max movies that we see are a campfire retelling of something that happened

very long ago and the people post this collapse are telling this story of Mad Max to their children hence the sensationalized violence of it

so I mean there's that's fairly that's not as as outlandish as it might immediately seem when you consider

Beyond Thunderdome which I have to say is my least favorite Mad Max movie oh it's a great movie it's too it's why it's wild

outly over the top, which is why it's good. There's so much of it that's so good, and yet something about it just like irks me. And I can never explain why it is my least favorite by far. But the very end of it where like, you know, the little group of kids that are grown up in the oasis, like are as that movie fades out and they're telling the story of Mad Max to the next generation, that lends a lot of credence to that theory that this is basically a modern day myth. yep and and i think that when you when you look at the movie through that light lord humongous makes a lot more sense oh god yes especially when you like do the digging into your lord humongous and you see like the the suggestions that like he's a former military officer or something yeah it i'm gonna i'm gonna tell you that in in this situation the fact that

like the two the two big forces in this movie are more than likely a former military officer and a former police officer yeah two men coming into conflict two men both very accustomed to using violence to impose her will on others both very comfortable with with contest of physicality and very capable of like leading other groups to their cause makes perfect sense Raggle, fraggle, you should see Furiosa if you want to hate a movie in the franchise. I haven't seen Furiosa. I have. I watched. I enjoyed it. I watched the more recent Mad Max film with, or what was it called, Fury Road? We want to Tom Hardy in it.

Fury Road and Furiosa. They're continuations of each other. Fury Road, I wasn't, I wasn't upset by. I thought it was pretty decent, actually. If you look at it from the perspective of people telling a sensational story of something that happened in universe looking back very unconnected

Furiosa and Fury Road makes sense yeah Furiosa I don't know Furiosa I don't I don't feel the want to go and see because do do you like the spectacular vehicle fight scenes with everything exploding it depends

I mean there's a bunch of cars exploding and flipping over it depends though like part of part of what attracts me much to Mad Max and the Road Warrior and even Mad Max Fury Road is the fact that they stuck so much to practical effects and steered away from CGI. I'm not sure how much was CGI and how much was practical effects and Furiosa. That's the one downside of that movie is I can't see all of that being practical effects as much. The simple fact that George Miller demanded that the DoofMobile be created.

So they had like the dude playing the guitar on the back of the speaker mobile and everything with the flames coming out of the top. had to be real the fact that he told his the special effects to armament thou shalt build it i want a doofmobile that right there is all the reason you need to go to like worship the altar george miller the man gets it oh he does he does that's that's what sold the franchise in the early in the early movies but you know the the interesting thing

you do start to see the further you go into the mad max series is the weapons change the weapons changed dramatically. You don't see the reliable ammunition that you saw in the earlier movies. The vehicles are less reliable. There's more of a, there's, you, you see more of like

the wrench monkeys and the chrome boys that are having to work on these vehicles while they're driving, which probably unrealistic, but no, but the fact that these things are breaking down all the time. But the lack of reliability, the fact that things are kind of hodge pods together, hack together

that, that makes a certain amount of sense. Oh, it absolutely does. And also the fact that, like, you know, early in the series of Mad Max, the impetus for the violence seems to largely just be people are bored and looking for a good time. But by the time you get to the road war, you're like, this is devolved into a full-blown, like, fight for survival over resources. Like, everything is about gas, food, and water. And nothing, nothing. Everything else comes second to those three things. things gas, food, water, and power. Power over others. So Lord Humongus is attempting to maintain his

group, his tribe of individuals he's gathered around him by taking the gas to provide for those people to maintain this power base. Yes, that's fair. I was just thinking in terms of like resources being sought, but you're right. Yeah, it could be considered that. Oh, power is absolutely a resource. If you cannot maintain control over whatever tribe you have, have gathered around yourself as a leader, man, your ability to maintain the situation that you have around yourself, whether that's safety, stability, the food, the resources, the other resources you have, then you're shit out of luck because people are going to start breaking away or finding a new leader.

You wind up getting replaced. You do. So on to tremors. Now, there is one and only one reason why I put tremors in here. And it's, it's, it's Bergummer. The rec room. Yeah, the wreck room. Well, okay, so being, being cheeky, yes, the rec room.

Like, everyone needs a rec room and a cute wife that knows how to shoot guns. I get it. I totally understand. And Bert Gummer is like a personal hero of mine. So you're just going to have to forgive me. Look at that mustache. Oh, that mustache. It's just glorious.

I don't know. I've asked my wife a couple of times, like, hey, like, if I got rid of all this and just kept this, would that be acceptable? And she has hard know that every time so far. But I'm just going to keep wearing her down. But eventually she could just come home to it existing. And then you have the authority of the mustache. Sorry, Ragel. My wife's, my wife's a brunette.

Yeah. I already have the cute wife. Who knows how to shoot. But it's actually not just Bert Gummer and the wreck room full of guns that makes me throw this in here. It's, it's the fact that like, this is the guy that had the bugout vehicle, had the radios, had the food, the water, had the gear, had the guns, had the ammo, like, Burt Gummer is, he's your atypical Y2K survivalist. Yeah, but from back in the day. But Burke, yeah, and very much, very much like kind of a, an artifact of the time. Because

absolutely. At the time, you know what, now for, for those of you who are younger than I am, I'm 43. I was born 1982. Like, I don't. I don't. think most of y'all who are younger millennials and gen z truly appreciate just how genuinely alarming y2k was for people who were like adults especially people who were in the tech world like there were there were so many systems that had never been programmed to have a two-digit year field go zero zero and people genuinely were alarmed about what was going to happen you know like what was my uncle was working in the tech field for uh Um, Motorola at the time and Motorola was exceedingly concerned because they knew all of their stuff would break if it was not fixed.

Now granted, they knew this years in advance and we're fixing it years in advance, but who knows if you caught all the bugs. Yeah. And that's the thing of it. I mean, like, especially bearing in mind that we're talking about like 1990. We're talking about 1999. Okay. So tech literacy. C was there, but it was not as widespread as it is now. Well, and I guess, I guess kind of what, where I'm coming from is this. Like, okay, in, in 1982, I was born. I was about five years old when I remember playing with computers for the first time. It was an old Commodore 64. That would have been about 1987.

Yeah, probably. My parents and my dad and I built my first IBM compatible. It was in, was it 386? Nice. I remember, well, okay, so I remember having a 386 that ran Windows 3.1, but before that, I think I had an 8086 because we couldn't run anything, but GeoWorks and Lotus 1,2, 3 on it. So that was probably the, that was probably an 8086 that we built at that point. But in any case, I've been, my personal computer background goes back to my childhood. But I cannot explain to the generation that grew up with freaking iPhones in their pockets how much more.

primitive computers were at that time and how new computers were in the market in 1999. So it's not like we were running around with like, you know, stone tablets and like, you know, stone tablets and abacuses, but like computers were not as mature as they are now. And there were a ton of very old systems running DOS and running mainframe doing really important stuff like for telephone companies and power companies and utility companies. back then and the whole of society was very alarmed about what happens when it goes from 99 to zero so because for the entire history of computers that's not been a thing yeah it's been two digit year codes the entire time yeah and there's no reason not to do that because you know well

for efficiency sake that's two bits you don't have to store well yeah and you have to you have to consider the fact that like computing power was at such a premium back okay like the iPhone Nick do you have a smart watch by any chance or you just run No I just run a smartphone I can't have watches at work Fair

Electro magnets destroy them and it could cause me to have my arm torn off okay but the smartphone in your pocket has more computing power than the entire NASA agency did when we sent stuff into space in the 60s Correct so like I don't know how to explain to people who've grown up outside of that time period that like computing power and computing storage was it such a

premium the decision to make your codes only have two digits was a huge deal because it's it wasn't just that it saved two bits somewhere in a code but every time you had to reference it it was only referencing two digits instead of three or four think of it from an in think of it from this perspective an insurance agency has to store every single covered individual's birth date. And that's just day, month, year, whatever to order you do it. So you've dropped two pieces of information off of a, let's say, one, two, three, four, five, so you're storing six digits instead of eight on millions of people's data.

And every time you have to reference them or you have to run like a database query and you only have to reference six digits instead of eight, it adds up. It adds up massively. Especially when you're talking about the scale of hundreds of thousands or millions of quarries. Queries. Yeah. And if it's something like from the world I'm familiar with like an insurance billing system, that means you have to run a process every month to execute billing.

And if a year code has four digits have two, it takes longer to get through that billing cycle with hundreds of thousands of enrollees. anyway thank you for that autistic rant yeah that's why you brought up the movie charmers man he he is a creature of the time I mean just look at that outfit raggle fraggle my one question for bert would be what is your long term sustainability plan

because never forget you're in the middle of an effing desert ah so that's that's the thing about survivalists back in the day long term sustainability plans weren't as much of a thing in the mindset of the time. Yeah. I mean, you were,

you were really more concerned with like immediate response to a sudden upheaval or a sudden outbreak of violence, although I would argue that. Which there were a lot of in the 90s in various places. Yeah, especially when you consider like the peak for violent crime

in recent history has been like the 1980s. So early 80s, late 70s in that range. So yeah, I mean, we comparatively live in very safe times. now. So the concern that Y2K would shut down the power grid

and people would just go berserk wasn't that far out of pocket at the time. Okay, I do have to push back on that in just one thing, Phil. You're wrong. So we live in comparatively safer times now. Do you know why? Because major metro areas underreport their crime

statistics? Cell phones. What's the biggest reason why murder rates have gone down nationwide? You are a phone call away from 911. one. It used to be you had to run to the neighbor's house, a pay phone, find a pay phone or find someone that would be able to call for you.

Now, if I am in a restaurant and I see a carjacking across the street where someone gets assaulted, I go, beep, boop, green button from my seat in the restaurant or on the side of a hiking trail or wherever you happen to be, chances are if there's another person around, they've got their little addiction box in their pocket. Although for the sake of argument, back in that time when there were no cell phones, people were able to actually walk and run because they weren't such pudgy out of shape bastards from doing a TikTok 18 hours ago. True.

But if you look at, if you look at, say, violent crime versus assault versus attempted murder, murder versus murder, there's not as big of a difference as they, as they advocate that there is. Between the faster response of 911 and EMS services due to cell phones and getting called sooner, yes, you have less people dying, but medical tech has also improved, keeping people alive that would have died and therefore been a murder charge. Damn statistics. Yeah, statistics are a motherful. fucker, you can make them kind of do whatever you want.

If you're smart enough. I'm a statistician. Yeah, I'm a machinist and I figured it out. So it can't be that hard to manipulate. Anyway, tremors. Tremors is just here because like, Burt Gummer is what most of us are today. We're that crazy prepper guy with way too many freaking guns and way too much ammo.

And then five seconds after the giant worm start eating people, we all of a sudden look like geniuses. Because all of a sudden, we're the only ones who know how to deal with the problem. problem. Well, it's a mindset thing. You know, if people walk around all day and they don't ever consider what to do in an emergency, when one of them happens, if you've never run it even in just your wetware, if you've never run it even just through your head of what would you do in this situation, much like a fire drill, much like training for any first aid response, your brain isn't going to have any idea of where to begin. And if you have that basic idea of where to

begin that sets you way ahead of the majority of people what is that i keep hearing is that everyone's here here's about fight or flight but they don't take into account there's three fs there's fight flee or freeze yeah freezing's the worst thing you can do freeze is what happens when you have not properly prepared for the emergency and your brain just kind of you know grind or you have no or you have no like even tangentially applicable training yeah but But that's what I call not prepare for the emergency. You know, just a slight sidebar. Like when I was in martial arts a very, very long time ago, many, many pounds ago.

But one of the things my instructor used to constantly beat on us was he said, you know, I'm going to, he had this theory that he was going to train us, in addition to everything else we were learning. He was going to train us to immediately react to the foremost common strikes. So we're reacting to a straight and a cross and a front kick and a round kick. kick. Okay. And those are the four most common vectors. Either kick's going to come straight up the front or from the side. Punch is going to come straight up the front or from the side.

And his point was, I want you to decide how you are going to react to that threat. And then you were going to train that one thing over and over and over and over and over. So when someone throws a jab at you, you react. Yep. And then after you've reacted, then you can start thinking about what am I going to do next. But his point was the speed of reaction. beats the speed of thought. So if your brain... Oh, every time. If your brain has to

perceive the attack, decide what to do, and then react, there's one step in the middle that's going to slow you down, as opposed to if we can skip the thinking part, go straight from see the attack coming and react to it as a force of instinct, you're faster.

You're faster that way. So I attribute that to this. If you spend time kind of war gaming, different emergencies and thinking about them and training, for them and speaking you know like if you run that through your wetware enough times then when the thing happens you've already laid out a plan and you just execute you just move you can think while you're moving but you can't it is much slower to try to figure that problem out in real

time it is it absolutely is it's uh it's the same problem you run into with like the i think it's the tooler drill, guy with a knife of 21 feet, if you go into the situation knowing that you're about to be charged, you know what your reaction is going to be when you're doing that training in your concealed carry class or wherever you're at. But when you're in the grocery store, you're thinking about what you need on your grocery list. So your brain is not in the fight mode already like it is when you're in class. And unfortunately, when you're the victim of violence your opponent's brain was already in the mode of violence they have an edge that's that's the thing i constantly tell people is i'm like you don't get to

decide you don't get to elect i would not like to be involved in this fight today the the decisions there are some you get to do that though there are some fights you can go i'm i'm picking no but you still have to react to it you do that's what i'm but that's what i'm saying is that you are not you are not making an election to be involved in this confrontation you you have been involved in it. Now you have to figure out how to deal with it. And deal with it can mean dealing with the problem. It can mean de-escalating.

It can mean walking away. But my point is, is that no one called you at 8 o'clock that morning and been like, Mr. Amrickson, would you mind getting into a fist fight in your local grocery store this afternoon about 4.34 p.m. That hasn't happened since middle school. Yeah. So that's what I mean by you don't get you. This is a non, this is a compulsory choice.

You have to deal with the problem being laid before you. no one gave you the option like ahead of time like would you like to be involved in a violent altercation or not so as a result we people who don't like to be the victim of violence had to be prepared to deal with violence constantly yep now dawn of the dead ah this one's a good i had to actually ask you i'm like um 2004 version or a 1978 version and you weren't aware that there was a 1970s version to be fair that came out three years before I was born I will watch it eventually

oh 78 not 87 I was about saying you're younger than I heard that one backwards 78 yeah well before I was born considerably before I was born wait a damn second you were born in what year 90? Holy Jesus Christ I told you dude I'm only like 35

I had to think about what year it was for a second there thanks for making me feel old Please continue. You're welcome. I will continue to make you feel old. So, Dawn of the Dead, your classic zombie flick, one of the classic zombie flicks. Disturbed, even got a nice, a nice little spotlight in it with the Down with the Sickness scene. But there's some interesting little tidbits in this movie that when you look at it from a prepper perspective are interesting.

Phil, do you remember the gun shop owner from across the street from the mall? I'm moderately ashamed to say I've never watched this, but then again, I'm not a huge zombie film fan. All right. I would like you to, at the very least, watch a couple of the scenes, grab them on YouTube or something, of the gunstore owner from across the street. I can't remember what the name of the gunstore was, but essentially what's going on is the... Thanks, Raggle. That's true. so the people in the mall are up on the roof they're bored they're painting the help alive inside

in home depot paint on the top of the wall on the top of the gravel roof and they notice that there is a guy across the street in the gun store on his roof with a rifle and they start a little bit of communication with him through holding up signs and looking at things through binoculars right well this guy you watch him go from a pretty skinny kind of fit guy to an almost emaciated guy over the over the midterm course of the movie and the reason for that is he's got water but he has no food in his gun store apartment or almost no food in his gun store apartment and do you know what leads to his death phil i know you said you probably haven't seen the movie? I'm going to guess he winds up going outside shopping for spies and get the people across

the street send a dog with food and water over to him and he opens up the door enough to let the dog in and the zombies follow the dog and get in and bite him. And that leads to a series of events where a fair number of the people get injured and or killed because they have to then rush their plans to try and save one of the women in the group who went off after the dog. No, to be fair, it was her dog, if I remember correctly, and she was very attached to this dog. Was this a useful dog or a purse dog? It was like a border collie that they had trained to do a variety of things. Damn it.

why couldn't be like a chihuahua or friggin' yorky or something that I would have just said like slam the door behind both of them assalam and lincoln you know have fun it it was a smart enough dog that they were able to load it up with a backpack of supplies and the guy was able to call it from across the street through a crowd of zombies and it was able to get to him okay so useful dog okay i i might john wick a hundred zombies to go after that kind of dog but if it was like my neighbors aggravating friggin chihuahua or uh Toy poodle, I don't, I don't know. Sure. But anyway, I get that. But look, we're all emotionally attached to our pets. I am extremely emotionally attached to my pets. I know you are too. I'm attached to my cat, even though she's far too lazy and stubborn to bring a backpack supplies to anybody. Sure. But as an, as an emotional comfort to you, as a morale boost to you, having that cat around is probably pretty important in a time of stress, right? I suppose. I mean, having my dog around is, even though my dog that I have now kind of just ignores me most of the time unless I have cheese. It's a very cheese motivated dog.

Aren't all dogs cheese motivated though? I have yet to meet a dog that is not cheese motivated. So maybe that's a common thread, but this one is primarily cheese motivated. but you know this this movie for those of you that haven't seen it a group of people get stuck in a shopping mall and some people come into the shopping mall after the guards of the mall have been locked in there for a couple of days or a day or so and the people are living off the supplies in the mall but that has a timeline and they are preparing to leave the mall when the guy across the street signals to them that he is starving, he is dying of thirst, and he is in desperate need

of supplies. So they have to do a supply drop for him across zombies, or in this case, across, let's just call it a dangerous territory to bring supplies to a resource for them, which is this very good marksman and guy that has all of these guns and ammo that would help them out quite a lot for them to maintain contact with and that causes several members of their group to die in the attempt to rescue the girl that went to rescue the dog so i think it's an interesting illustration of okay the gun store owner he had all the guns in the world to hold out with he had heaps and heaps of ammunition to hold out with but is he had one-dimensional prebs exactly and that's a great thing you can take from some of these

zombie movies is the the dimensionality that you need to have to your preps. Kind of the polar opposite of Berggummer who had more guns than the National Guard unit, but he also had food and water and radios and fuel. Especially once you get into the later movies. Yeah. Where he's got his bunker. Yeah. I mean, I really centered on tremors one because like tremors one is by far the best.

I don't think anybody will fight me on that. But yes, I mean, the long, it turns from tremors into the Burke Gummer show, which I'm It kind of does, which is great. I'm not upset about that because like it kind of always was the Burt Gummer show. Yeah. I mean, it's basically just Burt Gumber saving a bunch of idiot tauties from themselves. Well, and Kevin Bacon. I mean, that hair.

Like, idiot. No. Kevin Bacon, I'm counting among the idiot tounties. He is, but the hair. You had to save the hair. He could have gotten eaten by a worm and we just had four more movies with Burt Gummer and I'd have been perfectly okay. But anyway, but now I mean, I think one dimensional preps is something that a lot of people can, And a lot of people can like, I'm looking for a word here, identify with because I feel like most of us that have been in the preparedness game for a long time probably started out very one-dimensional, probably really hyper-focused on guns and ammo.

It is a very easy and fun way to get into it. Yeah. Because it's, I mean, the gratification is immediate. Guns are sweet. they're a pretty cool mechanical tool and they're basically fireworks that you can hold on to so and the air thing of it is is that you know not only is it's very easy gratification but like most of the air stuff and preparedness is like it's nerd shit you know it's like oh i have food and water and i have solar you know solar panels slow burn it doesn't look cool on instagram

it really doesn't but i mean i think that's a more useful thing but the air problem is like you know, every, everyone is, everyone in the preparedness community has had to fight against that old friggin stigma or the old stereotype of the prepper. And what is it? It's the fat guy with, you know, all the guns and ammo and doesn't have and like a box of MREs in the corner and no frigging, no other supplies, no medical equipment, no sustainability, nothing. His body's thrashed to shit from diabetes and being 200 pounds overweight. Well, think about the guy from doomsday preppers that was riding around on the e-scooter. like oh yeah great he had a bunch of 55 gallon buckets of wheat what's a diabetic going to do with 55 gallon drums of wheat yeah i will i will say that like i've i've met i've met several

much more season preppers let's not use word old it's ugly to some people but anyway hey man some people get started earlier than the rest of us yeah in age wise or timeline but I know for I know several of them that are very frank about the fact that like all the preps I have they're going to be used it's going to be used for like my kids and my neighbors because I'm not going to make it that much further absolutely like they but they at least have like kind of a secession plan of like I have like I am 70 years old I have 50 years of spies this is not for me this is a buddy of mine that I used to shoot with a lot he is a Vietnam vet with he's had cancer multiple times he's got a lot

a lot of health problems. He has a ton of supplies, but he also has two or three generations worth of descendants that he is bringing up in the preparedness lifestyle. Jeff said had to change tools

for the new guy when you started tremor. Start over. No. We don't start over for Stuart. We're not going to start over for you. We're not starting over. This is too organic.

You'll just have to hit the rewind button on YouTube or Facebook and watch it later or rumble. Or teach the new guy how to set tools. that is the that is the best practice right there teach the new guy how to do stuff so you can pay attention to the two us nerds that's true also everybody needs a good quality learning apprentice nothing teaches you your trade better than teaching somebody new so does there anything else in dawn of the dead to expound upon to tease out to pull out so there was there's there's an

interesting scene in it that kind of emphasizes that fight, flight, or freeze. One of the first scenes in the movie, one of the main characters, the nurse, she's kind of the little bit bloody one in the green on the left and the bottom right hand picture next to the cop. She's in bed with her husband and someone walks into their house. And they wake up to a young girl covered in blood in their house. as you do

which God I hope none of you have to do because that would be terrifying her first response is oh my God this is a medical emergency I need to do first aid which she tries to do and her husband attempts to help with and that gets him killed

the little girl like rips his throat out horrible bloody scene blood everywhere pretty excellently well done practical effects she does not harm the girl just kind of throws her off of him out of the room shuts the door and attempts to now do first aid on her husband which of course ripped out jugular there's not much you're going to do for that in a home environment no he dies and becomes a zombie

okay her training kicked her into okay okay medical time. She does not register that this girl is one of the undead because this is a new thing. At the risk of sounding really, really dark, bear in mind that like I deployed to a place where eight-year-olds are commonly combatants. My training would immediately kick into this is a home injury. What the hell is this eight-year-old doing in the house? Honestly. And I know there's at least one other Gwad vet in this chat there might be a couple but like for any of you who deployed Afghanistan or Iraq like and have dealt with child combatants I and I hate to say this way because it sounds awful but it just is the way it is but like some of us have been in

conflicts where that we are spring loaded to the idea that if you're if you are taller than the AK you're capable of being hanging assailant oh you absolutely are so firearms firearms make children a deadly threat so I don't know that I would immediately be like oh my god you need first aid i think my first reaction would be what the hell are you doing in my house right but this is the difference between uh a nurse how they get past this is her next door neighbor and didn't they lock their doors hmm that's a good question we don't know i mean the the the movie sets it up as like the ideal kind of like suburban neighborhood oh jesus like you live next uh wally and the

you live next to miss cleaver and you know one locks her doors and kids ride their bikes up and down the street, you know, 3 o'clock in the afternoon. When the nurse is coming home from work right before this scene, she stops and talks to the girl who's rollerblading and showing off her roll-blading and there are other kids riding the bikes in the neighborhood around the cul-de-sac. Okay. So it's set up to be a nice, don't have to lock your doors,

nice neighborhood, everybody knows everybody. Mm-hmm. So, you know, it's, I would imagine it's implied that they don't lock their doors. Please let the record show that my doors stay locked, even if, like, my doors stay unlocked if I'm going as far as the mailbox, any further than that, and I'm locking the doors. That's smart.

And if an eight-year-old shows up in my, in my, in the middle of my house. Yeah. If an eight-year-old shows up in my bedroom in the middle of the night, somebody's getting kicked in the chest. We can deal with the. consequences later a bloody eight-year-old in the middle of your house is usually not a good thing no no no that that's going to elicit a very strong reaction from me one way or another but you know it's it's it's it's it's like uncle randy says what's your zombie in this case it's actual zombies you know in in a different case it could be you know your neighbor down the way is 85 and there's a blizzard going on and you know that They probably don't have supplies or a generator or whatever.

So you have to find a safe way to go check on them if you want to. Otherwise, you could have a cascading effect of people going to save the people that went to try to save the people. Mm-hmm. Causing more and more problems. No, that's all very fair. And last but not least. Love that movie. Red Dawn.

And I got a personal kudos from Nick for choosing. the correct Red Dawn. It is the correct Red Dawn. To which I replied, no, I chose the only Red Dawn because I'm not mad at anyone in Hollywood or that was involved in the remake of this, but there is only one Red Dawn and Patrick Swayze was in it. And if you disagree, I'm not mad at you, but you're wrong. Point of order, I am mad at Hollywood for choosing North Korea of all goddamn places as

the adversary in the new version of Red Dawn. dawn because my god but we had this north korea can't feed its own soldiers enough to get them into south korea let alone the u.s but didn't we have this conversation neck oh we did we did and that's the other reason i'm mad at them for cucking to china hollywood's masters the cp had to be appeased they could not make up they couldn't make a movie about sticking it to china oh they absolutely could have and it would have just as well it would have but then is not in china our congresspeople would not have been able to get honey potted by hot Chinese spies

anymore. So there's that. Look, the Chinese spies weren't that hot anyway. I've seen them. I mean, I've seen the pictures. They're not that good. They must be very flexible then because there's something that keeps our intelligence assets and our Congress people

attracted to them. I mean, have you seen a lot of our Congress people? You mean the ones that look like they're, they died four hours ago and we're just keeping them alive with fluids or the ones who look like i'm just saying their standards are not that high huh i guess that's what happens when you don't get your um oh what's called damn i'm drone juice in the morning oh no i was thinking the uh the

conspiracy theorist uh the stuff that's made from like the blood of the hut of newborns adrenachrome and they don't get their adrenochrome they start falling apart pretty quickly they do I'm pretty sure that's why Nancy Pelosi is going down somehow like a, like a ship in a bad storm. They cut off her adrenachrome? I mean, I would have thought it was just because she was elderly and, you know, there's only so much stem cells and young blood of gym goers can do for you. Young blood of gym goers. Oh, yeah. Have you not heard about that?

Like politicians in the ultra wealthy have been harvesting blood from healthy young individuals to give themselves transfusions to boost their immune system and their recovery times. because their blood is generally better. That's that's not like a conspiracy theory either. That's a, that's a known practice. They hire people to live healthy to get blood transfusions from. There's a joke there. I'm just not,

not quite at the point of making it yet. Look, it's faster than going to the gym yourself. I was going to, I was going to make it the illusion that our congresspeople were blood-sucking ticks. Because you kind of just aren't. They are laid it up for me. like literally they look man the vampire jokes right themselves sometimes but anyway the correct red

dawn with patrick suezing take your rectest red dawn so anybody that hasn't seen this movie shame on you go watch it tomorrow irritate your spouse um i believe it is the ccp in partnership with the soviet union invading the continental u.s or russia yeah invading the continental U.S. With a massive paratrooper strike. It was still Soviet Union at this time, wasn't it? I don't remember the date that the movie is supposed to take place in. I'll Google.

So essentially what happens is there's a massive paratrooper droplet unopposed over the continental U.S. in between the Rocky Mountains and the Smokies. Basically, the entirety of the Midwest gets seized. 1984. Still Soviet Union. still Soviet Union. Okay. So Soviet Union plus CCP.

Essentially, they used Chinese foot soldiers to boost the numbers of the Russian troops and take over the central U.S. Group of high school kids who have some wilderness experience, have some hunting and fishing experience.

Point of order, it wasn't the Chinese. Soviet's Cubans and Nicaraguan's. Oh, Cubans and Nicaraguan. You're right. Which, to be fair, we're socialist, we're communist satellite states. They were, and the Cubans are closer than the Chinese, but still, the Cubans was an odd choice. They should have chose the Chinese even back then, because Cuba does not have that many people. But in 84, I think the difference was that we're going to, well, we're going to go off topic slightly.

But I think the difference is that in 84, the Chinese were still much more isolationist. Like, okay. So, 1984, I was two years old. but like I'm older than you are and a lot of the audiences tonight so like give it to me for a second but like in 1984 the Chinese were still much more isolationist I mean they were very much

provide foreign aid but they were not put boots on the ground at that time so they were much more like trying to wield influence and build up their economy and build up their war machine and you know like fight the information war

versus the Soviets who were like literally sending advisors in air quotes to Cuba and North Vietnam and places like that. I think the Chinese actually sent some pilots to North Korea to North Korea. The Chinese also sent wave after wave of their own men into North and South Korea. Yeah. But I think I think Nicaragua and Cuba was probably like a sign of the time. Because I know that I made an impression on Raggle.

Well, I know that in the early 80s, like we were much more concerned. about Cuba than we were China. Jeff brings up a good point. Was Kissinger trying to separate the USSR and China at the time? He was. He was trying to open up China to Western money and influence, which great job, Kissinger. Really appreciate that.

You bastard? Yeah. Should have let China collapse under its own weight instead of bringing them into the Western sphere. Oh, I just got through all the comments that led to the Jesus Nick L.O.L. So now we must talk about it Someone out there is Someone out there voted for Kamala Harris

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Jesus. Anyway, Red Dawn, Patrick Swayze. So now that we have firmly gone off the rails twice. The freaking Soviets and the Cubans. There are side tracks on the rails. The Cubans and the Nicaraguan's and the Soviets show up and hood rat shit ensues.

It does. The main character's father gets killed fairly early on in the film. And this instigates them to form the Wolverines. Yeah. So Troops, paratroop in,

take over the town, cut off communication, box everybody up into, actually they didn't stick everybody in concentration camps. From what I recall, and it's been a while since I've watched the original Red Dawn, but like, I think a lot of people were pretty much just left to do their thing in town

as long as they didn't color outside the lines. So the reason that the main character's father was grabbed right away is because I believe he was on the police force. They grabbed the local government. They grabbed the police force. they grabbed EMS and fire and they specifically grabbed anybody that they knew of that had military experience

anybody that could mount a resistance anybody likely to be able to lead or build a resistance or facilitate a resistance mm-hmm yeah so I mean makes perfect complete sense and it also makes complete sense that they would leave the majority of the townspeople because like

you know one of the dirty little secrets of being an occupying force is that it takes people to occupy an area and the more the more control you have to exert the more people it requires and by allowing a population to kind of like you go over there and manage yourself as long as you don't do dumb stuff that population doesn't require as many people to maintain a presence versus a prison camp where you need X amount of population for X amount of prisoners otherwise things get out of control very quickly Phil, do you know what the per capita rate of police officers is in the U.S. generally? I knew at one, no, okay, that we have to agree to terms.

Are we talking about local cops, state, fed? Full-time law enforcement officers per thousand residents. Again, we're talking about like local, state, fed, everybody in the bottom. Full-time. Anybody that's full-time law enforcement? I want to say at one point, it was something like one cop for every 3,000 people

or something like that. It is between 1.6 and 2.8 officers per thousand people. Okay. Depending on the region. So like Western U.S., Arizona, New Mexico, a lot of empty land, lower density of police.

Northeast, highest density like 2.8. Topps, thousand so to have the police presence that the u.s. has now which is what most of our viewership is used to seeing which by the way is a high trust society which doesn't require an extremely high trust society generally in the u.s but that that excuse the requirement for how much law enforcement you need between let's let's use round numbers here about two officers per thousand people so 30,000 people in your town, 30 police officers, roundabout.

Well, actually, there's a guy that comments says there's a cop under every rock in the northeast. It feels that way because there are almost three per thousand. So between 30 and 60 law enforcement officers for a small town. Also goes about saying that like they're usually concentrated in high crime areas. So, like, if you go in that area where they're concentrated, there's going to be one under every rock. Yeah, because that's where they're needed more. So, in an occupying force in a hostile country is going to need a higher rate than that. So that's going to really, yeah, it's going to really tie up your manpower.

And when, when you consider the fact that, like, this, this whole event is predicated around a group being paratrooped into the U.S., I don't know how many of you all. Because of you are surrounded. Well, but I don't know how many of you are familiar with this, but like, you can't parrot, it takes some serious manpower to paratroop any sizable force. And it kind of limits the number of people because, like, an aircraft can only hold. And the types of equipment. Yeah. An aircraft can only hold so much weight. So you don't just need the person.

You need the person. You need their gear. You need their weapon. You need their ammo. You need their food. Their water. You need tents for them sleep in. You need sustainment gear.

So an aircraft. can only hold X number of people in all their crap and you can only get so many aircraft into an airspace before somebody starts to take notice. It's just the mid, there's a reason why like, like 101st airborne or 82nd airborne that our country uses is our primary paratrooper forces.

Like, they're a small, high impact unit. You drop them in, they do hood rat shit. But they're not an occupying force because, or if they're an occupying force, they occupy like an airfield. until you can land more aircraft in and get more, do a troop buildup. But they're not like a,

okay, we're going to drop you here and you're just going to hold this tri-state area for a period of time at prison camp. It takes too many people to do that. It doesn't, the numbers don't, the math doesn't math.

No, I mean, look at one of the most famous air drops ever, D-Day. The whole point of the paratroopers was, great, you guys are going to hold this break. bridge. This unit's going to hold this bridge. This unit's going to blow up this railway line.

That's your job. Your job is to make it so more enemy units can't get to the fight, and we're going to try to get to you before all of you die. Mm-hmm. I mean, honestly, like, look back to World War II with, like, Battle the Bulge. Mm-hmm. And some of those big paratrooper campaigns. Oh, yeah. You know, the interesting thing of, I think, the Red Dawn scenario is, is that realistic in the U.S.? Personally, I don't think it is. I don't know that there is a country on the planet with force projection enough to actually get paratroopers over central U.S. Okay, so the way that this is laid out, no, this is very, very fantastical, but I do think along the southern border, there is ample opportunity for the car for a cartel to do something similar to do something very similar because they cartels along southern border especially like especially some of the

better funded better equipped cartels down there they can absolutely project force a dozen or hundreds of miles inland some of them are projecting force as far as new york and chicago well okay but it's a difference in how you say project force because if you're talking about like organized crime that's operating kind of as a satellite but reporting to the home base, that's one thing. I'm talking about, I'm talking about like the Juarez cartel saying, oh, you're talking like seizing territory. I'm talking about like, hey, you 50 guys with trucks and guns and people and everything else, you go over the border and go take that town. I think they could absolutely do that, and I think if they did it quick enough and cut communication to the outside world, they could

probably hold it for a period of time too. Cut communications to be. the outside world would be the hard part. In the days of like smartphones and everything else, yes, that'd be very difficult. You would have to arrest cell towers. You'd have to arrest landlines. You would have to have, you would almost have to have people embedded into the town to cut communications before the main force comes in. But here's the problem. In this day and age, people with that tech ability and that knowledge are available to the highest bidder.

They are. So I mean, it's not like that infrastructure is hidden by any means. Oh, God, no. Most of it's behind a chain link fence, if that. If that. Yeah. So, I mean, that's just the only reason I bring this up. Do I think this could happen like this?

No. Do I think it could happen along the southern border? Probably. Do I think it could happen along the Canadian border, frankly? Yeah. It's potentially possible. I mean, the Canadian border is less secured than the southern border. Yeah.

I mean, it's largely vast tracks of unoccupied forest. I think the real problem you would run into is with in the communication age, you would have multiple layers of communications. You would have to arrest simultaneously so that no one could get a message out. But I think that's especially with satellite internet now and Starlink and the satellite communications of iPhones. Now you have to jam satellite communications. Do you want me to tell you that's a lot easier than you think it is? Oh, no, I realize that's easy, but you now have an additional layer that's not physical infrastructure on the ground, is what I'm saying.

Yeah. I guess I'm saying is I think it's more plausible from the northern and southern borders than it is from people paratrooping in. But regardless, you could have a homegrown gang. Just import a bunch of hard muscle kick off the top. Well, we've already seen this with the George Floyd Autonomous Zone. Chas chop Mm-hmm We've already seen

These exact sort of situations happen in the U.S. I mean, what was it? Who What country were they from the street gangs that were seizing apartment complexes in Portland

and a few other places? Somalian, so the Somalian gangs. Yes. That were seizing apartment complexes in a major U.S. city. Yeah.

And the truth of matter is that if the police are not willing to like go put foot to butt the average citizen is just not in an emotional mental headspace to do anything about it true i mean and in a lot of these major cities to be honest about the people that live there largely liberal less likely to be like you and i phil and have spent many weekends and late nights training heavily with firearms and combatives. Yeah.

And also like, once you get to a point where you have like a higher proportion of renters versus homeowners, you also do very quickly get into just the mentality of like, this isn't mine. I rent to stay. I've rent the place. Like, who cares? It's not my house.

Worst case, I'll leave. Yeah. Once you get a lack of ownership, especially like when you get, I mean, that's why like in every major metro area section 8 housing is just demolished almost immediately because no matter how nice it is when it's handed to to people they don't own it so they don't give a shit about it Jeff makes a great point here local government siding with the cartel in

Chicago over deportation right now very fair point they are they are but so but to me the the utility of these movies is not is not to say like look at this thing that happened this movie it's going to happen just like this but it's kind of the parallels it's the rhymes you know it's what lesson can you take a minute i mean look at the look at the picture here you feel that you've got in the bottom center these boys are starting with a bolt action rifle and a lever action carbine and it's one of they got in the top picture yep where they got in the top picture RPGs AKs and RPKs yeah i mean if we want to borrow page out of history you know let's talk about the um the liberator i was going to talk about the

Warsaw uprising, World War II, you know, like, and now that did. Perfect, Sam. That did end poorly because the Nazis did eventually, you know, burn the Warsaw get it to the ground and then gas everyone down in the sewers. But it started with a very small uprising of people literally just walking up behind Polish cops and shanking them in the back and taking all their stuff. And then they'd get a pistol and be like, now I got a pistol. And then you turn the pistol into a rifle and the rifle into a squirt gun. and the squirt gun and some grenades and so on so forth. Exactly.

I mean, there's literally entire military units within the U.S. Special Forces that this is what they're trained to do is like I'm going to drop you in this country with a lot of $100 bills and a pocket knife and one change of underwear and in two weeks you're going to have, you know, a million dollars in a briefcase and have built a city.

That's what they do. Yep. Rangel says armed members of Venezuelan gang Trend de Agua have been reported to occupy and exert control over multiple apartment complexes in several U.S. cities, including Aurora, Colorado, and San Antonio, Texas.

So, it looks like I was maybe incorrect. There might have also been the Somalians in Portland. I think y'all might be talking about two different. Could be, but same basic principle. Same basic principle. A small group of violent, motivated, and armed individuals. Yeah. But now, I mean, I see your point.

I think that there's a lesson to be gleaned from the Wolverines in Red Dawn just because, like, you know, this is kind of like the genesis of how resistant factions tend to come up. It's usually a small group. They're very rag-tag, very minimal training, if any. They seek targets of opportunity. They use them to bolster their forces to bring more people to their cause and to accrue weaponry and equipment. And more importantly, like some of the tactics I remember from this movie is like lots of hit and run. Not a lot, not a lot of stand our ground and fight.

They did a lot of, God, no. They did a lot of ambush. As a resistance, you, you always ambush and you always run. Yeah. Or you ambushed where the, where things are so lopsided that like before the enemy come out of defense, they're already wiped out. Correct. But I think that like there's, that's not really so different than like the tactics

ever used against us by the Viet Cong and Vietnam. It's not that different from the tactics used against us by the insurgents. in Afghanistan and Iraq. It's not that different than the tactics we used against the freaking British and the American Revolution. Like this is a pretty standard playbook and it works really well. Well, it does. It's it's infinitely harder to defend than it is to then than it is to attack when the attacker is not trying to seize territory. Yeah. If the attacker is just trying to harm you or deny you resources, it's very easy to destroy things. Mm-hmm. It's much harder to prevent them from being destroyed.

Right. And the other thing I just want to point out is like, you know, this group is not, it's not the National Guard. It's not the cops. It's not the army. No one called 911 to get these boys to stand up and start putting foot to butt. This is what, like in the event of any kind of a serious breakdown of law and order in this country, whether it be temporary or permanent, this is what's going to be. you and your neighbors or you and your idiot friends or you and your gun buddies from that met at the range together, y'all going to have to pull your pants up a little bit and deal with the problems because there ain't nobody coming to save you. Right. Admittedly, this is a very extreme example of no one's coming to save you, but the point remains. Well, look at what happened with the hurricane that hit the southern states earlier this year.

Who came to help them first? first, the one that hit down by Eddie. Oh, I don't remember the name of that. Haleen, Haleen, Haleen, look at Hurricane Haleen. Who were the people that were there to help first? Wasn't the government, wasn't the state. Locals. It was the neighbor with a mule.

Or the neighbor with the UTV. And then shortly after that, it was the guys who were construction, who had heavy equipment to unblock the roads and move the trees and start getting things restored where they could. The guy with a couple dozers and a chainsaw. yeah no you you brought up ida ida was one that smacked us yeah that's right i those back in twenty why i remember that one i'll have to go back through my timeline to remind myself when hurricane ida was feels like forever ago but it it wasn't that far ago it wasn't that terrible

long ago i know that yeah But that's Preper Movie Review. Yep. They're good movies. I think they're really good movies. I mean, so just to be fair, like, I'm assuming we're going to wind up doing this again. But like my criteria is, first of all, it's got to be a good movie. Can't be a crappy.

Yep. Because I'm not going to subject myself to that. I think, Phil, you need to watch Shark Nato. Oh, Jesus Christ. There are lessons to be learned from Sharks. shark nato phil nick there are lessons to be learned nick shark nato is not a movie it's schlock yes it's perfect i hate schlock it's exactly what i wanted from a movie about sharks and tornado i'm a sci-fi nerd not a schlock guy you can't sigh about that i don't like schlock i'm a sci-fi guy

that's why my movies were mad max and the road warrior i was i was promised wait have you seen uh iron sky agrees with me. Hell no. Ragged the wrong and you should feel bad. I'm off the moon. Nazis from the moon. Nazis from the moon. It was a,

it was one of Kickstarter's original big successes. They promised steampunk Nazis with 1940s tech on the moon invade Earth. Again.

It's amazingly bad. It's phenomenally terrible. It's, it's schlock no it's it's a comedy it sounds like it is a comedy your your smile tells me it's probably schlock it could be but there's also sci-fi involved oh it's a black guy into an albino nazi yes they make a black guy into an albino nazi oh jesus christ in heaven it's great it's it's greatly terrible i think i'm going to stick to finishing off helsing

my wife my wife made the mistake of subscribing to Crunchy Roll several months ago not realized that's pretty good yeah not realizing that she was married to a complete weeb so I immediately filled my list up with like she was like oh I want to watch like

apothecary diaries and this and this the new cutesy anime that everybody is watching and I was like I'm watching every Gundam I'm watching every Dragon Ball I'm watching Helsing. I'm watching Evangelion. One Punch Man.

One Punch Man was never one of my shows. What about? What's a Pirate Loofy one? Shit, One Piece. It was never a one piece one. Really? One Piece is great. My wife actually really liked the new live action One Piece. I'm not even saying it's not great.

Just it wasn't one of the ones that like snatched my attention. Ah. I, okay, so like bear in mind that like my foundational moments in anime were, Akira Ghost in the Shell and then Neon Genesis Evangelion and then

like Gundam. Mine was Helsing. Everything. Helsing's great. I mean, I... Helsing's fantastic. Have you seen Helsing Ultimate? Yeah.

I tried to explain it to my... And then there's the YouTube version of Helsing Ultimate Ova where they make it even more campy and even more jokey? Oh, I'll have to give that'll look just had curiosity oh dude it's it is hilarious but anyway my daughter happened to walk through the room in the middle of um helsing ultimate and she was like what are you watching i'm

like i'm watching a vampire who is in league with the the english protestants shank nazi vampires yes and that was enough and she sat down and watched like 15 minutes with me so imagine the nazis from that except they're coming from the moon and there's no vampire that's iron sky I'm just saying man the internet crowdfunded it and it was everything I had wanted it to be it was Nazis from the moon

okay raggle said not a big enemy guys seeing Dragon Ball Z and Gundam I mean that that's not a TBC's a good a good start you have to add in Robotech I almost forgot about Robotech Robotech macross that

that I'm not a huge anime guy but Robotech DBZ Speed Racing You know I never saw I've never watched Speed Racer I probably should Okay

Speed Racer is like To be fair when did it come out I know Yeah exactly But listen Speed Racer is legitimately Like everything anime should ever be It is it is campy

It is immature It is hilarious It is random It has a great storyline Amazing character development really cool cars I grew up winning a Mach 5 badly

I mean look if one showed up in my garage I wouldn't be upset Digimon and Pokemon absolutely count as anime because it is anime Not my generation though Yeah but it's still anime

It is it's absolutely the art style And some of the same creators Anime would The guy that comments anime would probably make me a weave and make me move to Japan and corrupt it with my gun toting culture. I mean, when you consider the fact that there's a lot of anime that is very

much like gun culture adjacent? Yes, but all of the gun toting people are not Japanese. Yes. They're all Western foreigners. Should we do a prepper movie review that's all anime? About Helsing?

Yes. I was going to say about anime. we could we might have to make that happen but it's 9.10 p.m. we both have to wake up early in the morning so we do 30 comes the same time every day. Yes earlier than the law should allow. But anyway, so to the audience, if you liked preper movie review, if this was fun and cheeky and you might have learned something or at least had a good time goofing off with us, then you should leave a comment and like. And if you haven't ever given a review to it. you can find a place to do that

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oh okay yeah well you know I'm one of the answer guys at work so when I tell somebody to do something they should probably blame me excellent point but yeah we'll go ahead and punt this one out the door and if anybody has any feedback we're always open to it

and if not then we'll see in another week and you'll just have to wait and see what we come up with yeah if you don't tell us we don't like it we'll keep doing it or we'll just keep doing something entertains us truth all right later y'all You know,

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