The Prepper Broadcasting Network - Matter of Facts: Riot Time!!!

Episode Date: June 16, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to the Matterfags Podcast on the Prepper Broadcasting Network. We talk prepping guns politics every week on iTunes, Stitcher, and Spotify. Go check out our content at MWFpodcast.com on Facebook or Instagram. You can support us via Patreon or by checking out our affiliate partners. I'm your host Phil Raveley. Andrew and Nick are on the other side of the mic and here's your show. ["Spring Day"] Surprise! So, like I was telling Nick right before we ran the show,
Starting point is 00:00:36 I killed the normal intro and outro videos off of this particular stream as an experiment to see if YouTube will actually like play nice with us for once. and so far There's one of y'all in on YouTube watching this. I'm pretty sure it's Jim and I'm pretty sure it's not AI good So if this stream makes it more than five minutes Then I think my by exuberance and putting you know Scary pews in the intro might be what's been killing the streams lately. Or it could just be random bull crap.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Could be both? It could be, but just remember, you know the differences between screwing around and science, right? Writing it down. You have to measure your results and write it down. So here we are conducting a scientific experiment of whether or not YouTube shuts our stream down because we took away the
Starting point is 00:01:25 scary intro. Thanks Jeff. Thanks good on you for looking out. I actually have a view here where I can see like numbers for who's in the YouTube and the Facebook feed and so far I've got one of each. So no intro. If we make it to five minutes, that means we're doing okay. I like it. But anyway, I'm Phil. This is Nick Andrew's not with us today Andrew is busy delivering a number of pallets of bricks to various downtown locations So he told me that you know, you need a little bit extra spending cash So he was moonlighting with a brick with a brick retailer and they have had so many freaking orders from Los Angeles and New York City Recently, they decided to hire some temp help
Starting point is 00:02:04 Weirdest thing no no earthly idea who's doing that much brick laying in those two cities but apparently it's been a thing lately yeah I mean what can you do we all have to do is a little extra spending money now and then good on them get after it bud yeah I'm just kind of curious like must be building brick walls left right center in those two cities right now for all that no they're very anti wall traditionally. Oh, that's right. So I wonder what they're using the bricks for pavement.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Anyway, patrons, thank you to the patrons for supporting our sociopathy, keeping the bills paid and the wheels on the bus. It is only because of you I can flagrantly and repeatedly thumb my nose at YouTube unless I'm conducting an experiment like I am right this minute Without fear of losing my entire livelihood Merch if you'd like to support a small business and support this small business and buy funny little t-shirts The links to the merch are in the show description I need to grab those shirts and be better about like, you know
Starting point is 00:03:04 Try them on except that I've gained 20 pounds and they don't fit anymore So I might have to support Chris and Tiffany by buying new ones Or support myself by losing the 20 pounds both either or probably both all probably both So Cypress survival is it's a fun little nonprofit we teach preparedness his topics in the local area in southeast Louisiana. And on the 14th, which is two days from today, we're having our first quarterly event we're calling Lunch and Learn. So registration is closed.
Starting point is 00:03:34 If you missed it, you missed it. But we will be doing these more, you know, more throughout the year. But the idea is that we bring together a group of people, mostly people that we met from our get ready event several months ago. We eat lunch, we BS, we get to know each other, we hang out. And in the process of that,
Starting point is 00:03:52 I'm also gonna teach a more in-depth version of the food prepping class that I taught at the get ready event. So instead of it being like, you know, a couple of bullet points in a 15 minute topic, this will be an hour. Nice. And Nick, you'll be proud of this. Remember when you
Starting point is 00:04:07 mean Andrew talked about intro to food prep, we built our menus out and everything that is in this beautiful. So I integrated a lot on a budget. Yeah, and I integrated a lot of the things we talked about, I integrated some things that Stuart brought to my attention. Stuart very, very correctly pointed out that if you eat an unvary diet for too long, you start developing dietary deficiencies, vitamin deficiencies. So I have some mitigation strategies installed in that chat to help offset that with also some, very frank advice that if we're talking about two weeks of preps, vitamin deficiencies don't usually show up in two weeks.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Yeah, unless you have a pre-existing health condition which, hey, don't we all? So talk to your doctor about how you should eat for those and plan accordingly. Yeah, and I also did a little bit of legwork to break down like calories per dollar with our recommendations and then the some of the more common like stereotypical prepper foods to just try to try to pound the point home of like look most people that first get into preparedness they go for these things and you're just not getting a lot for your dollar but you can get these things at your local Wally world and get a getting a lot for your dollar. But you can get these things at your local
Starting point is 00:05:25 Wally world and get a lot of value for your dollar and build up a food stock at a very reasonable dollar. Yeah. That's one thing I haven't tried much is like those wise meals and stuff like that. I've always went with mountain house for dehydrated. I'm not going to lie. When it comes to dehydrated food, I'm going to be a mountain house convert for a very long time because I mean, peak is good. Peak is very good. I haven't had a chance to try peak, but to me, like the mountain house. Yeah. There's some of it in the preps, but I use it a lot for like camping. Yep.
Starting point is 00:05:54 And if I'm camping dag, I'm going to, I want to eat something good. And the, the mountain house bits of biscuits and gravy is camping breakfast. Very good. So the topic for today is riot time. And if I thought we wouldn't get new from YouTube faster than showing a pew on the show, I would have included the a little blurb from a song from Power Man 5000 way back in my childhood called Riot Time. It would have been the perfect intro, but we definitely would have got a copyright strike. We would have got hit.
Starting point is 00:06:25 I mean, we got hit with a copyright strike for fair use when we did the breakdown of the Civil War movie. Like we can't have any fun on this show. Somebody gets their feelings. That's fine. But it is June, 2025. A Republican is in the White House, so it must be riot season again. Every time without fail, they will find a reason.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Yeah. And I was actually talking to a very progressive friend of mine the other day about this exact topic. And, you know, he and I very often trade each other's points of views. And he keeps me grounded in reality. And I give him an alternate point of view because in his friend circle, I don't think he gets that from anybody else. So statistically speaking, he probably doesn't in his media consumption either. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:10 But, you know, a lot of the things I want to focus on in this show was like, like I said, and when I've developed this show topic, and I put it in the show notes, I really want to focus around like, intelligence gathering, risk mitigation, things like that. Because to me, like, no matter what position you take on the nonsense that's going on around the country right now, I think we can all agree we don't want our cars or our houses burnt to the ground and we don't want to get assaulted. Ideally. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:40 I mean, I would be a much happier person if somebody didn't try to, you know, conk my brains out and burn my car to the ground. It is rather inconvenient having to buy a new car. And I am well over that free free concussion limit. Well, that and I have a second gen Tacoma and they're not making them anymore. And it would be quite a chore to replace a 10 year old Tacoma. It would. Unfortunately. So, but you know, you're right.
Starting point is 00:08:06 This seems to happen every year without fail once the weather gets warmer, especially if there's a Republican in office and gee, wouldn't you know it, all the bricks are showing up again, palletized in the places where these demonstrations are
Starting point is 00:08:22 supposed to take place, not near construction. Conveniently. Conveniently, I might add. Yeah. Phil, have you ever been on a construction site downtown? Downtown? No. Yeah. I've been on construction sites like in residential areas. So one thing I think you'll notice the difference, if you ever get the chance when you're walking around downtown and you see a building under construction, take a look at where they store the materials for those. Not typically outdoors where they're within easy reach because they tend to, they tend to sprout legs and walk away. They do.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Typically they're behind a fence, usually with a locked gate and sometimes even with barbed wire or razor wire on the top. Yeah. Residential neighborhoods not so much. So you know Palo de Brics just sitting on the corner where there's supposed to be an activity, an active activity is a little out of the ordinary. I would say so yeah.. So, importance of local intelligence. Like, I want to compare notes with you on this because, like, we're, because of the No King events that are happening around the country on Saturday, like, you and I both have some of these things happening within a reasonable distance of us,
Starting point is 00:09:37 and I imagine you and I are going to be looking at some of the same types of things so that we can be apprised of what in the heck is going on around us. So I'm curious to compare notes here. All right, you want me to start? Go for it. All right, step one, your local Facebook pages. I'm not talking about like your friends and family.
Starting point is 00:09:57 I'm talking about your insert town name 411, your what's happening town, your grew up in XYZ Town Facebook pages, your Class of 95, Class of 2008, Class of 2025, whatever. Group pages. Yeah, all these local group pages that you normally ignore because it's just Karen's throwing a shit fit about normal bullshit that you don't wanna deal with.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Keep an eye on them as we're coming up to these because you'll see people trying to organize on them. And usually it's not the violent people that you see trying to organize on these things, but they'll be your run-of-the-mill people that the violent people try to hide behind and inside of. Because let's be honest here, six people go out and try and bust up cars and light them on fire. Chances are pretty good. One of them is going to get arrested.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Those six people in a group of 400 other people dressed in nondescript clothing with a mask on probably going to get away. Yeah, traditionally. And I would add to that in addition to just social media, frankly, Google. Yep. Because I'm gonna tell you that I, it took me literally 30 seconds knowing the name of these events
Starting point is 00:11:14 to Google it and find exactly where and when these local events were supposed to be taking place close to me. So I was able to very quickly ascertain at least where their meetup place is places where they're planning to march to, you know, like, for me, the this one of these events is in New Orleans, and I have no intention of going to New Orleans on Saturday period and discussion. But the one that's closer to me,
Starting point is 00:11:38 it's on the other side of town, I don't feel like I have a lot to be concerned about. I'm not going to go anywhere even remotely close to that side. It's not a major metro. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's we're part of the New Orleans metro area. Technically, it's just the fact that like it's South Louisiana. So it's all these big towns around a lake. Right. So they're all part of the same metro area. But it's not like you're, you know, a mile out of downtown, New Orleans
Starting point is 00:12:06 No, but I think that's also the reason why they're having a separate event up here on this side of the lake because You know, otherwise we're separated by like 20 something miles of bridge So I don't know. I think we probably will get a lot of people coming in from like Slidell and probably Hammond into the Mandaville Covington area. I, if the information I've got is to be believed and it'd be kind of silly of them not to specify where they want everybody to show up for their protest. It seems counterproductive to a certain degree. I mean, unless you want to be an asshole and mess with them.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Yeah. But I, I have a suspicion. I know where they're going to be. And they're far enough away from me that I don't think I have an immediate concern. An immediate one, unless things spread and move and go places are not supposed to. So to that end, other than social media, other than the Google. What you thinking? I've got, I have two things. I got one. That I'm gonna personally be running right here at the house
Starting point is 00:13:11 that will not come as a shock to you. So this one I won't be running at the house, but a great place you can check, coffee shops. Your coffee shop billboard, especially if you've got one of those artsy hipster coffee shops. Guarantee people are coming through there. Hey man, some of them make a pretty good cup of coffee. But they do have to have coffee. The one by me makes a really good lilac lemonade refresher with a little bit of caffeine in it that my wife introduced me to, holy God is that good.
Starting point is 00:13:45 But they have those little billboards usually out in the front of the coffee shop where people put up stuff, lawn care, childcare, walking dogs, where to gather for whatever protest. Another good one, your community college message board. That's a good one. Your local community college message board.
Starting point is 00:14:04 A lot of activists are still in college just because they have the time to be activists. Yep. But I'm gonna probably have my scanner app on my phone turned on. Have the notifications actually turned on because we've got a little thing we're doing for Father's Day on Saturday with my wife's dad. So I won't be at home for part of the protests and we will be in one of the towns where there is going to be an active protest. Wrong side of town and it's pretty far. It's about three miles, four miles from where we're going to be. But what do you got? from where we're going to be. But what do you got? So my first thought honestly is I'll have a handheld radio
Starting point is 00:14:54 tuned into our local AM our local AM rebroadcast. Nice. So I will say that like, even though I'll be the first to admit, I love my satellite radio. It's definitely a vibe. It's really, really cool to be able to put it on one radio station and listen to it across five different states. Like it's definitely first world privilege, but it's fun. But for something like this, I would want to tune in the local AM station or even better, the local FM transmitter that's rebroadcast to get, cause I want local sources of news and it's reasonable to assume that someone on that station is gonna be talking about
Starting point is 00:15:27 Foolishness in the local area, especially if it starts getting wild especially they can make fun of it of course or If it bleeds it leads man. Oh, of course If it gets attention if it gets sponsor if it gets ears listen to sponsors They will talk about it all day long But the other thing I'm gonna do honestly is I'm gonna take that laptop I'm a hook up two STRs to it and two antennas and I'm a dial-up STR trunk. Yeah So I know from experience playing around with STR that I will not be able to hear the encrypted comms channels for like
Starting point is 00:16:01 Police dispatch and so on so forth, but I also know channels for like police dispatch and so on and so forth. But I also know that your local fire department channels are unencrypted and if someone starts setting fires or bashing people's heads in, there's going to be some cross chatter on those channels. You're damn sure EMS and fire are probably going to be lightened up. Plus you can always look at the volume of traffic that is going through, not necessarily what they're saying, but how often are they talking on those encrypted police channels? That's almost, it's not as good as knowing what they're saying, but it's almost as good because you know, when they're starting to get panicky. Yeah. Well, I mean, it works kind of like a heat map.
Starting point is 00:16:41 It may not give you pinpoint intelligence to know that there's foolishness happening at this specific place. But the simple fact that those channels start to overwhelm everything else tells you there's there's some foolishness going on. Yeah. And since again, we have a reasonable suspicion of where these protests are going to take place because of the published information, we can just go ahead and assume it's on that side of town. More than that. Those two things two things to me gives me that early warning to know that, hey, this is not going to be just a bunch of people chanting and waving signs like something spicy is cooking off probably.
Starting point is 00:17:16 And at the end of the day, like it always comes down to like the very first thing I intend to do, which is do we have anything else to cover for local Intel before we go to? Okay, the very first thing I'm gonna do is obey the three stupids Like I have no need to go anywhere near these things I have no need to hang out with any of these people and I have no need to do any of the silly things They're gonna be doing I don't want anything to do with it. I don't want to be anywhere near it because This has always been
Starting point is 00:17:45 kind of a touchy subject because like there are those people that get that start to think about the fact that like, well, you know, we have we have to counter protest, we have to this we have to that and the thing I always point out to people is I'm like, yeah, that that's valid. That's a point. But it's kind of like standing in the kitchen next to the oven and then being afraid of the heat. If you go to a protest, whether it's to counter protest or to join in the protest, there is a higher than zero chance you're gonna get caught up in some nonsense. It's very possible.
Starting point is 00:18:17 So very often, very often the smartest thing to do is if you can avoid it is to do so. Yeah, I understand where people are coming from with wanting to counter protest. I get it. I get it. I get it. But when you see these large leftist protests, especially ones that are organized well in advance, especially following the pattern that we have seen, especially following the violence that we have seen in some major cities in California
Starting point is 00:18:46 and New York, are you actually going to get any benefit out of counter protesting? Because number one, you're not going to change the minds of these people. You're not. No. Zero percent chance. And they're not going to change probably your mind if you're one of the people motivated enough to go protest. Less 0% chance right you're probably not going to change the minds of the random passersby that you are additionally inconveniencing and
Starting point is 00:19:15 honestly well the only the only thing you will convince those random passersby of especially if things bricks start getting thrown and things start getting lit on fire is that all these people are crazy and I want them all to stop. And you're kind of putting yourself in a spot where you can be blamed for the violence beginning because not saying that it's the correct thing to do to blame you, but the leftist media is going to pillory you if you are going to these protests and you're wearing a MAGA hat and a fight starts. Look, you escalated it, you instigated it. You are going to be blamed in the media, rightly or wrongly. You're
Starting point is 00:19:59 gonna be convicted by the media before you ever get a chance to defend yourself. And you know what? Rittenhouse went to the protest in Kenosha to try and provide security and medical care for people. Look at how much time, expense and hassle he had to go through. I mean, a lot of the people that watch this show, I'm assuming are concealed carriers. A lot of our patrons are concealed carriers. If you bring your gun with you to a protest and you end up having to defend yourself and you end up having to shoot
Starting point is 00:20:30 Someone at that protest you're probably looking at a similar legal battle 100% and I can tell you right now what the DA is gonna say right you went there looking for trouble Yeah, it and not not in even all that notwithstanding, by the way, we have to loop back around what three stories is or we'll get your rational angry the fact that I put up I put up what is it called a banner up without reading it for the audio listeners and no no offense none at all. I appreciate Stewart for busting my butt and keeping me on track as well as he can. So the three stupids per Nick is, isn't this some Sadiou thing?
Starting point is 00:21:07 Or am I thinking Jeff Cooper? You know, I don't know. I have heard it from a number of places and it's never go stupid places with stupid people to do stupid things. Stewart will know who this quote comes from. He was probably there when it first got said. It's a mantra that I hear all the time in tactical shooting courses, in concealed carry
Starting point is 00:21:30 classes, concealed carry renewal classes, self-defense videos online. They may say it in different ways, but basically what it's breaking down to is don't go to the downtown slums at 3 a.m. with your stupid friend that's known to pick a fight at every bar you go to. Because you're going there with someone who's probably going to cause a problem at a stupid time in a more dangerous location. You're asking for a problem to occur. You could have avoided that problem entirely by drinking in the back shed with your buddies instead and leaving your gun in the safe. Yeah. And to rephrase this very slightly to like something that I've said in the past when we start having discussions about defensive shootings and concealed carry is I always tell people and like Trek and I, I wouldn't say we argued, we disagreed one time because you know, Trek's background is very much in the legal use of force rules and everything else.
Starting point is 00:22:28 And I attempted, I thought I did a decent job of turning a legal argument into a semi-rational hypothetical that the lay person could apply. And the thing I told people is I'm like, okay, you're gonna ask me in this situation, am I good to shoot? Yes or no. And my answer always is if you're prepared to spend six months and 25 to $100,000 to keep your butt out of prison, pull the trigger. Yep. And here's the thing of it. Trex argument was like, Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, like that, that that has no basis in legality. And I'm like, you're right, it
Starting point is 00:23:09 doesn't. But what it does do is it hopefully will make a person stop and think to themselves. Six months and 100 gram. Is there another way to solve this problem besides shooting it? Yeah. Because I'm not gonna lie, if I got to take six months, six months off my job, that is going to be financially crippling to my family. Even if I stay out of prison, it's going to hurt. We might lose the house.
Starting point is 00:23:32 We're going to, we're definitely going to have problems. I'm have a very freaked out wife for that amount of time. So my kid is not going to have her dad for six months while I'm in and out of jail and you know, in and out of frigging the legal system. ever dad for six months while I'm in and out of jail and you know, in and out of frigging the legal system. And then the money it takes if I can raise it will take my retirement and loot our savings and everything else or it'll end up in my I'm sure if I have pushed game shoving this weird hypothetical, my parents
Starting point is 00:23:57 would do what they could help me out. But my point is, it's gonna we're gonna be in exactly the same situation. This is that poor sob from Michigan we interviewed interviewed about a year ago. He literally had to... He owned his house. He had to take out a second mortgage on his home to afford the lawyer fees to stay out of prison. By any reasonable metric, he was well within his rights to shoot, but it didn't matter. That's why I go back to the idea of if you're not willing to spend six months and a hundred grand to stay out of prison
Starting point is 00:24:26 Then you find a no way to solve this problem besides shooting it and usually that's enough to give a person pause So I apply that here, too. I want to go to the protest I want to counter protest and blah blah blah Are you prepared to spend six months and a hundred grand to stay out of prison if something goes wrong and you get blamed for it? And the answer is no You you probably should stay home. Right. Is it important enough to you to risk spending a serious amount of time in jail
Starting point is 00:24:54 and a serious amount of money? Yeah, and if it is, hey, all the power to you. Go, do it. But go knowing what you're risking and go in up with the intention to avoid the additional risks and by the way if you're gonna go that direction I would advise you talk to a lawyer ahead of time to get one on retainer because
Starting point is 00:25:19 lawyer on retainer is a lot more preferable to public public defender it is so that's all I'm saying I'm not saying don't go try but is a lot more preferable to public defender. It is. So that's all I'm saying. I'm not saying don't go. They try, but they try to get a plea deal. They don't try. Well, you know, they, yeah, that's really what they're there for.
Starting point is 00:25:36 They're there to give you a pure deal. If you are guilty and you're pretty sure you're going to jail, Maybe don't hire a lawyer. Save yourself the money, I guess. But man, you can spend an awful lot of money and still end up in prison. Jeff Jag, Juggalo paint defeats facial recognition. Does same theory as there's a crush. Hi. Same theory.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Same theory is wearing one of those little plastic fingers attached to your fingers so you have like six fingers on one hand and it makes it look like it's AI. Yep. Yeah, so basically the idea behind the jugular paint is you darken where your face would normally be highlighted by light and you lighten where your face would normally be darker in a bizarre pattern, in a non-repeating pattern, and then the computer can't really identify you as easily. Now I'm sure computers are gonna get better with that over time, especially if you have multiple angles
Starting point is 00:26:31 and high definition video, but we do what we can. Yeah, if you are gonna go to a protest, we're seeing a lot of scuttlebutt online that the government is using drones and various other means to collect cell phone data off of the people as you're moving through the protest. So if you're in an area where something pops off, your cell phone is going to ping that you were in that area
Starting point is 00:26:59 and it's gonna ping what you were doing as far as a lot of these have like motion sensors and movement monitors. Were you running? Were you walking calmly? All this kind of data is going to be collected and potentially used against you. So yeah, just as a general rule, if you're going to do, if you're going to participate in hood rat activities you shouldn't bring your government FBI spyware yes you you should not equip yourself with a with a baby with a baby month with a government mandated baby monitor right that collects all of your metadata constantly and that includes your drive to and from and you are never going to convince me
Starting point is 00:27:43 that those things really turn themselves all the way off when you hold the button If you can't remove the battery assume it is powered on 24-7 365 and as we've seen from night vision camera video of people walking around looking at their cell phones That IR flash is taking a picture about every 30 seconds Whether you want it to or not on that note Pro tip if you have one of these god-awful little things on your wrist and you happen to have Access to night vision or an IR camera fire that up some night. Mm-hmm. Oh
Starting point is 00:28:20 Dude, look the first time the first time I like strapped knots to my head I happen to have my watch on and I had I had turned off the any the always on screen so I had to go completely black It looked like I was holding a road flare in my hand Yep, because of the the IR camera on the backside that's constantly monitoring for your pole All right, and it was just pop pop pop pop pop. Oh, it was, I took one look at that and I was like, yeah, if you have to go under nods for any kind of hood rat reasons, all electronic devices are than the night vision
Starting point is 00:28:53 get thrown in the trash. Absolutely. I mean, look, these things aren't designed to be discreet. They're designed to monitor you 24 seven, 365, and let you look at cat pics on the internet yes the cat pictures is definitely a feature not a flaw it definitely is a feature but you know if you see a lot of these people advertising if you're going to go to a protest here's the things you should bring and here's the things you shouldn't bring one of the things they always recommend you bring is a business card for your lawyer.
Starting point is 00:29:27 That's telling, yeah. Business card for your lawyer, a mask so that you can't be identified, written directions to how to get to the protest from a different location. So like not your home, but say a gas station that you know, and then written directions back to that gas station that you know, and where you can then navigate
Starting point is 00:29:52 home afterwards so that they don't have your address. Like they're not gonna be able to find that from any other identifying information. But yeah. And I'll go ahead and throw up your last bullet point situation awareness, but before we dive whole hog into that, I did just want to point something out. Go for it. So I personally,
Starting point is 00:30:11 and if any of y'all out there don't, I encourage you do. I like to creep around in the dark places of the internet where people of my particular political social, socio-bin being libertarians are not necessarily welcome places like reddit I love to go to reddit and just creep around great because it's gather. Oh for some reason do people on reddit think that like Despite the amount of times they've been brigaded by people like, you know Social conservatives that show up in their threads and then get banned and then start 14 other accounts. So they continue to fool with them.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Despite that, they still think they're talking in a vacuum and that no one is paying attention to what they're saying. But what I really enjoy, which is adorable. Yeah, that is, that is stinking precious. But I will just say for those out there that would be interested to know, I have to admit that over the years, I, okay, so there might've been a time where rightly or wrongly, I might've derided most of the tankies as like, you know, chubby basement, dwelly, helling neckbeards. To be fair for a while. You were correct Yes, however, I
Starting point is 00:31:26 Will say that those chubby neckbearded idiots are starting to get fairly organized and they have people Running in their circles who I would say based on what I'm seeing Certainly seem to have some experience in war fighting Absolutely, if not with the US military, with another one, just kind of reading the tea leaves from what I'm seeing in the topics that are being discussed. They are they're discussing things like ditching your cell phones, discussing things like, you know, like not having anything on you
Starting point is 00:31:59 that's identifying they're discussing. I mean, even to the level of some people saying like, hey, rip the tags out of your clothing So that you are totally sterile these are things that we used to discuss in military circles when we were concerned with like Intelligence and counterintelligence like these are these are not average This is not an average level of information for a person to have. It's not like a state secret.
Starting point is 00:32:25 It's not like you have to have a top secret clearance to know any of this stuff. But the simple fact that people in these circles are discussing these things, the level of sophistication has changed. It has. And that is in the last 10 years it's escalated, especially in the left-wing circles. I mean, they... Yes. And I think that's why I wanted to talk about it since we're bringing up situational awareness especially in the left wing circles. I mean, they, yes. And I think, I think that's why I wanted to talk about it since we're bringing up situation
Starting point is 00:32:48 awareness is like there was a time when quote unquote the right, that, that weird nebulous cloud of people that are by calls the right, which is there by to the everybody that's not like, you know, outside of mouse, they don't get this plane, but like they kind of had, I don't want to say they had the monopoly, but they definitely had the lion's share of like military combat veterans, a lot of GWAD vets, a lot of people that traditionally were more libertarian, or at least conservative minded, even at least centrist. And what I've been seeing in more recent times
Starting point is 00:33:20 is that there is a trend developing where this this once very hyper partisan, I think a little bit insane group of people that like to break windows and blow stuff up and set fires, they're gaining a level of sophistication that is concerning. Yeah, it's, it alludes to a trend where like, you know, it's been, it's been a known thing that ever since, I don't know, 10 years ago, it's been a known thing that ever since I Don't know ten years ago when it was like the John Brown Gun Club and Antifa redneck Groups, which is not the kind of rednecks you're thinking of it's a communist militia group Yeah, but my point is like that was an earlier effort for
Starting point is 00:34:01 Revolutionary leftists to arm themselves But even then it seemed like a halfhearted effort. What I'm seeing today in these, again, behind the curtain, where I'm creeping is a level of intention and sophistication that alludes to the fact that they are getting more organized. They're getting a lot smarter with how they're doing things. So I would only say as we just go, as we finish out this topic
Starting point is 00:34:26 of situational awareness, like bear in mind that if your whole mental picture of this group of people is that they're retard neckbeards that crawl down their mom's basement, you are severely misjudging and underestimating a person and a group of people who probably mean to do you harm because their rhetoric has not gotten any softer. No.
Starting point is 00:34:47 If anything, it's gotten more violent and more intentional towards violence. But the problem is that level of maliciousness is now matched with a level of sophistication to actually make good on the threats. That's the part of this that concerns me. That's why I personally am going to be listening for police activity. I'm going to be listening for freaking fire dispatch. I'm going to be listening for indications that a small protest spirals in something bigger because if it spirals on something bigger, it's on the other side of town for me, but it's not that far that it could come
Starting point is 00:35:20 here. Yeah. You know, you bring up 10 years ago. So I became aware of the John Brown Gun Club and Redneck Rebellion being active in my area. Oh, geez, it must have been a little over 10 years ago, maybe about 12 years ago, when I was really starting to get into the shooting And these guys, they were, they were wearing, you know, Chai Comm chest rigs, 22 caliber bolt actions, old Mosins and SKS here or there, you know, break action shotguns, your occasional like bird hunting shotgun. What I'm seeing now, a lot of century AKs. Yeah, a lot of century AKs on the ones that actually knew a thing or two.
Starting point is 00:36:07 What I'm seeing now is guys in plate carriers with ARs and AKs, primarily ARs, some AKs, some Scar Heavies, some FNFALs, heavier hardware, and instead of discussing ideology, they're now discussing small unit tactics. And I'm now seeing what I was seeing from my militia friends for a long time is they're starting to set up communications networks outside of reddit or they're referring to their comms groups their comms networks I'm seeing a little bit more of Say not units forming for instance
Starting point is 00:36:57 But people discussing how to form units of themselves So I don't know if we are getting close to attempted communist revolution territory or attempted socialist revolution territory, but we might be getting close to like weather underground levels of issues with bombings and attacks in various places. We've already seen the attacks and fire bombings in various places. Thankfully it hasn't escalated to IEDs or actual male bombs. But I think we are moving in that direction unfortunately. And I don't like being the guy to try to sensationalize this stuff but look they've been
Starting point is 00:37:38 firebombing Teslas and other cars that look sort of like Teslas because they don't like what Elon Musk is doing. All right, they definitely don't like what the president's doing. They definitely don't like what the conservatives are supporting. How long until they start doing more of that politically targeting a person
Starting point is 00:37:56 instead of just ideologically targeting Musk? So a couple of things. First of all, Guy, the comments, they've upgraded from tankies to drones. That's great. That's funny. But that is absolutely... Do not make the mistake of assuming these people are dumb. They are just as smart as you and I. They just have been convinced by a parasite ideology. Yeah, but I'll tell you honestly the thing that I'm noticing that makes me more concerned see the the the the aspect you're discussing
Starting point is 00:38:29 Where you're talking about like them wanting to form groups them wanting to coordinate that's worrying. Mm-hmm But what I'm noticing is looking at their equipment it has got a lot better But it's not necessarily what they're carrying. It's how it's being carried. Some 10 years ago, I saw plate carriers that were completely misadjusted. I saw drop leg holsters down to a person's kneecap. I saw I saw a person who looked like they bought the stuff in an army surplus store and never worn it once in anger. And they just threw it over their shoulder once in training. Yeah, but now what I'm seeing is
Starting point is 00:39:04 worrying because I'm seeing gear that is fitted to the individual. It looks cohesive. Like you and I have talked, and Andrew and I have talked in the past about how like, you know, like I have a battle belt setup and it has been tried with a chest rig and with my plate carrier so that I can make sure that everything works together.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Like I don't have a problem where I can't get to my secondary because it hangs up on the plate carrier. I've got so many hours of my battle built. I had to restitch it. Yeah. But that's my point. Yeah. What I'm seeing now, looks like attention was paid to fitting this gear to these people. I'm seeing to be fair though, things that look like co-hair knowledge is more available now than it was 10 years ago.
Starting point is 00:39:43 The gun tubers have made a fortune on on showing off all this info and how to train with this stuff. But see, I don't think it's just a knowledge. It's not because like you could you look 20 years ago, you could go to an army surplus store, get a whole bunch of old Alice gear, and figure out how to fit it to yourself. Because all you do is look up an old army TM the information was always out there. It just wasn't it took
Starting point is 00:40:08 more available. It did take more effort. But for a person that's motivated a little more effort is not wrong. Not at all. What I think is happening now is that we're seeing a shift because this group traditionally used to like kind of trip over themselves because on the one hand, we have to arm ourselves to fight the fascist but on the other hand guns are bad yeah well they're they're turned they've turned that corner now they're obviously training now they're obviously making the case of no we have to be armed
Starting point is 00:40:36 we have to get past this sociopathic DNC sponsored nonsense of all guns are bad we have to get past the nonsense and the screaming about black guns are evil. We have to get past that. And they have. So now I'm seeing a group of people who are espousing violence, who are obviously equipping themselves for a fight, and who are more and more and more, I'm seeing things integrated that I recognize from the military side of things. I'm seeing things like body armor. I'm seeing things like I'm seeing communications gear being integrated into these crowds. There's somebody in the Patreon chat posted a group today that they were using GMRS radios at these protests to coordinate activities. Now, a GMRS radio is basically a grown up walkie talkie. It's not like a sink. It's not a sink guards. But it's the point. It's the
Starting point is 00:41:26 capability that's being offered. It's the ability to communicate outside of line aside over a wide group. It's the ability to communicate and coordinate and it's I'm seeing I'm just reading the tea leaves guys, I'm looking at all these things together. And I'm like, Okay, when I look at the whole of these things that are being done, and the capabilities being offered to this group by integrating these things into their ranks, I'm seeing the same thing we saw in the called the civilian defensive world the
Starting point is 00:41:57 Earlier like the tac-med and the tactical shooting world. I'm seeing that being integrated into these this group with this world, I'm seeing that being integrated into these, this group with this, with this firmage and with this ideology. So I guess all I'm trying to say is like underestimate these people to you, to your detriment because the, the things they're doing today are the things that I've been screaming at people for years to do to be able to protect themselves or protect their communities. Well guess what? They're doing that. Yep.
Starting point is 00:42:27 And they're protecting, they believe they're protecting their community. You brought up the Pewtubers and this huge effort over the last 10 years to try to like get the civilians to arm themselves, get them to train, get them to buy gear. Congrats. Now, on the one hand, I'm kind of like, you know, my dad, I think everybody from the from the gay retarded communist all the way to the friggin, the guy on the far right, they all have a right to defend themselves.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Oh, I agree. They should all have body armor and night vision if they can afford it. And they've got a fully funded emergency fund. funded emergency fund. Yeah, but but my my issue is is when you win when that person who takes that advice starts committing unprovoked acts of violence now my oh whoa whoa whoa. You were going in a good direction until this. So now we got it. Self-reliance was the direction violent. Yes, unprovoked assault is not the correct direction and
Starting point is 00:43:24 unfortunately look I'm only I'm only 35 I only remember really back to the mid 2000s Like politically it was a why it was a wild time to be alive, man. I know I know I've had a wild ride of adulthood It's been a bit. Wait, wait a second. You bastard. You only politically remember back to the mid 2000s. I was a combat veteran in the mid 2000s. Gotta throw those in there every now and then
Starting point is 00:43:53 just to make your bones hurt. Listen, but my hip hurts every morning. My tailbone hurts. It hurts if I sit for more than two hours and my shoulder makes this god awful, like old rusty ratchet noise when I do this I don't need you to make me feel any older, but please continue so the Look
Starting point is 00:44:13 There were always protests as long as I can remember there's been protests I mean back to the 60s back to the 60s. Okay. Okay, you can go back further than that. I mean hell Well, wait a second. Um, 1920s 30s bonus marchers. I mean, My point is you can go back in history. There's been somebody upset about something. I've got a bunch of the boys to go protest That's all right. We sell rightly so but what I'm seeing now compared to what I was seeing in like early to mid 2000s, 2010s, the level of violence at these protests is becoming more common and more severe. I mean the the chash chop takeover zones. Granted, the president is now sending in
Starting point is 00:45:06 federalized troops sooner to try and prevent these things from getting so far out of hand that they are firing hundreds of rounds into two teenagers driving a car because they didn't respect their authority. Yeah. I mean, not a good look. No, not a good look. And hey, you know what? Great job, leftists. You made our point for us that you're insane during the Chazz Chop shit and you're doing it again in LA waving a foreign country's flag in front of burning cars. Great. Really fantastic optics. Keep it up. You're making my point for me but I'm seeing this stuff escalate interesting Jeff so remember earlier at the show I said it's
Starting point is 00:45:56 very obvious that some of these people have gotten military experience and it wasn't probably with the US military. Jeff said there's been a lot. No one remember that a bunch of these guys joined the Ukrainian and Kurdish foreign legions. You know, I don't remember that, but I should. Yeah. Though I know for a fact there has been quite a number of US former US service members that have definitely joined the Ukrainian. Oh, absolutely. And some the Kurds, although I don't think as many. And you got to understand, I'm not saying that everybody that joined either of those units did so to like, you know, come back home and burn their country to the ground. A lot of these people joined because they believe in the cause and they
Starting point is 00:46:38 believe they're fighting for freedom. And I totally respect that, that person. But yes, there's a lot, there's a lot of people who went over there and went through hard ass combat training and they have brought those skill sets home and they are employing them to teach the rest of their little tanky brothers and sisters how to do the things they know how to do. It's exactly what happened after GY when you had this explosion of combat veterans, all of a sudden filling up the frigging civilian
Starting point is 00:47:08 defense market. Yeah, the the militia guys went from sniper training in the woods, from hunting stands to running small running small unit tactics and room clearing drills, basically overnight. Yep. And then you end up at the apex where you have like, you know, pretty average guys like us that are sitting on night vision and have friggin, you know, lasers on our friggin rifles. And we've got, you know, 12 IFAQs built out. And I mean, like, that's what I'm trying to get across is that
Starting point is 00:47:35 these guys have done that on a different time period with a different military force. And they brought those lessons home. It's inevitable. I mean, anytime there's a military force that comes back from campaign, the civilian market is going to adapt to that. And in this case, some of them are leftists and some of them have some pretty messed up ideas. Yeah, but even their ideology set aside for just a moment, the part that kind of concerns me is that if you look at the wars that were fought in, say, Syria and Ukraine, they were fought by disparate forces. They were fought by small units against disparately large forces that were
Starting point is 00:48:15 better equipped. They were fought in very urban environments. They were, they taught these people how to hit and disappear. They taught these people how to hide in a crowd. The wars being, the conflicts being fought overseas right now. Their wars are almost. Let's be realistic here. They are, I mean, yes, Russia is showing that they are the retarded kid in the corner yet again, not being able to conquer a very arguably small country right next door to
Starting point is 00:48:46 them. Good job, boys. You showed everyone you're dumb. But to be fair, they are being propped up by basically the entire West. Sure. They are. But anyway. But still, on a population to population basis, if the Russian military kept itself in anywhere close to operational condition, remove their corruption. They should have steamrolled that country inside of a month. You know what Russia would be without corruption? An actual superpower?
Starting point is 00:49:18 I was going to say, Hey, I would say juxtaposition, but you know, there you go. But anyway, so yeah, I mean as far as situational awareness, like I feel like we've already talked through You know, like every everybody should be well aware of what the threat is what their capabilities are Everybody should be well aware that these these groups have the potential to have in people embedded in them that if not be U S military members, then are certainly people to have foreign combat experience. They're bringing in that level of training and experience. They have the capability to very suddenly generate a lot of violence very quickly. If LA and New York city or any indication, they have certainly the Cape, certainly the emotional capability of it. And quite frankly, they feel justified in any level of mayhem. So if you know what they're capable of.
Starting point is 00:50:15 For the last 10 years, they've been guarded by the Justice Department and not prosecuted for their bad behavior. So they've seen no consequences in a large part. executed for their bad behavior. So they've seen no consequences in a large part. And if you think about it, I mean, most of these people have spent the last eight to nine months like frothing at the mouth on a daily basis because hit literally Hitler is, you know, becoming the president. Yeah. So Jeff Jag, CivDiv is a great channel that flogged his entire Kurdish deployment. I might have to add that to my list. We should probably talk about it with someone that knows much more about drones than I do. But I saw we do need to get somebody that understands
Starting point is 00:51:00 drones on here. Yeah, I'm not that person. I look I'd be the first one tell you if I don't know squat about a topic. I'm like, Nope, I'm not the one. Today is not the day I know how to break a drone. But that's about it. But yeah, hey, look, everything's a smoke machine. If you use it wrong enough. Absolutely. But yeah, I mean, we know where these protests are going to be happening. We we know the capabilities of the people
Starting point is 00:51:26 involved, then I think the only thing you can really do at this point is just keep it clear and stay out of the daggone way and just have your eyes and ears open. Like, keep an eye on what's going on around you. And if you're walking through an area where there are large crowds of people, keep an eye on those crowds of people. Because if they decide to go nuts, an area where there are large crowds of people, keep an eye on those crowds of people because if they decide to go nuts, you're going to have to be moving quickly in the opposite direction or
Starting point is 00:51:52 you're going to get caught up in it one way or another. And if you happen to see people with signs, flags, masks, or carrying bricks, I advise you to pop ninja smoke and find another place to be as rapidly as you are able. Yep. Does that sound fair? Yeah, that's reasonable. You can buy CS gas on Amazon. Don't tease me.
Starting point is 00:52:19 No, you can. And you can have it delivered to Illinois. Ask how I know. Oh, my wife is going to be so angry at you. Yeah, it's a mix of mace and CS gas. It's not in a huge concentration, but you can get 60,000 square foot grenades by the case. As we start to walk this topic out the door, now is the appropriate time to
Starting point is 00:52:46 retell this story since you brought CS tear gas. So you've probably heard that everyone gets barracks tuberculosis when they go to base training, right? Old musty barracks, people stack on top of each other, you know, not not great ventilation. Everybody gets mother effing bronchitis. They call that fraternity aidsides at college. Yeah, in base terrain, they just call it the crud's among several other less socially acceptable list, YouTube approved ways to term it. But you know, lung aids, all sorts of stuff. But anyway, but yeah, everybody gets bronchitis.
Starting point is 00:53:19 I had awful bronchitis. I was, I could not break a 16 and a half minute, two mile run if you put a gun to my head. I couldn't breathe. I mean, I was literally like, I would literally run so hard that I would get so much phlegm and stuff built up in my chest.
Starting point is 00:53:36 I would have to stop, puke it out, and then continue running. It was like that for weeks. And then it's gas day. We go to the gas chamber. We're all lined up out front in lines. My drill sergeant decided to mess with me and I learned later that what he did was he unscrewed my voice meter slightly so that I didn't have a fully sealed mask. I learned that trick afterwards of course. So I go in through the gas chamber and. I learned that trick afterwards, of course. So I go in through the gas chamber
Starting point is 00:54:07 and you're supposed to have like, you know, a couple of minutes where you're using your mask and you can breathe and they call it the trust exercise. Like you learn to trust your gear. Yes, well, what I learned was that my gas mask was not fully sealed and I immediately started like coughing and sputtering and my mucosal glands went absolutely ape shit ballistic. My mask started filling with snot. That's how bad
Starting point is 00:54:35 this got, how fast. And then every time I cough, I'd blow the seal on the mask, get a nice fresh face full of CS gas and I mean this is this is 20 years later this comical bet the moment I was like oh geez try something fun what's type one fun one fun is fun while you're doing it type two is fun to remember later so there I am having a moment and then it comes to the point where like you have to take your mask off and you know they force you to breathe some of the gas. Well Phil has already been dying from this freaking gas for about two minutes when I have to take my mask off. As soon as I take the mask off my eyes
Starting point is 00:55:15 immediately swell shut with tears, my face is red as a tomato. I am in full-blown distress. I am not having a good time anymore. I was questioning my life decisions That brought me to that moment in time They finally opened the door. I only know the door open because through my clutched eyelids I could see daylight and I got pushed towards the door. Thank God or I would have died in that room, right? So long-winded story. I walk outside. I puked my guts up I blow I literally had a snot rocket hanging from my nose all the way down to my knees one Solid snot rocket just waving back and forth and you know
Starting point is 00:55:53 It's a big snot rocket when you can feel the weight Pendulum me back and forth on your nose for the five listeners that are sticking with me. I appreciate y'all But after all that the next day I blew out like a 14 minute two mile run I was I could breathe cleared everything right out. Oh, dude, I had I had no frickin bronchitis for the rest of base training for your gas. The CS tear gas was like deforesting Vietnam with friggin Agent Orange. I mean, this is all the bronchitis all the mucus everything was gone. I
Starting point is 00:56:26 could breathe beautifully. And to the point where that same drill sergeant that unscrewed my voice meter before I went into the gas in the gas chamber, he remembered me and I remembered him. So right before we have to do our last PT test, he winds up being one of the administrators for the PT test. He wasn't my platoon's drill sergeant. He was another one. And he was he was giving me shit because I was a chubby guy in base training.
Starting point is 00:56:53 You know, you got to get the chubby ones extra help builds character. And he asked me, he's like, so you're going to be able to do this run. I was like, you want to send me back through the gas chamber, clear my lungs out one more time. I had to do extra push ups. I bet you did. Mouthing off the drill sergeants and police officers and judges never usually pays. I mean he went pretty easy on me. I only had he let me wait till after the run before he smoked the crap out of me. So you know know, at least he gave you one like.
Starting point is 00:57:26 Well, yeah, he didn't want he he didn't want me to stay. He wanted me to leave. But you're going to suffer on the way out. Oh, yes, there was there was definitely some suffering afterwards. Matter of fact, he took me to he took me to a pit that was filled with shredded tires. Oh, oh, that's not as bad as you think it is until you realize that that was filled with shredded tires.
Starting point is 00:57:45 Oh, that's not as bad as you think it is until you realize that they don't take the steel belt out of the damn thing. So, as you're rolling around and doing push-ups, you're getting chunks of steel belt just shoved into your palms and your back and everything else. Yeah, it was fun. It was good times, good times. Type two fun, right? Type two. Yep. All right. Yeah, it was it was fun. It's good times good times type 2 fun, right to
Starting point is 00:58:07 Yep Alright, so as we walk this one out the door Nick did not Nick reminded me the very beginning of the show We are not going to be here streaming in seven days next Thursday Like we usually are because it is time for that annual field trip. Mm-hmm So the matter-of- of fact podcast and the patrons, we all go out into the woods and we sing kumbaya and we hold hands and we touch each other's butts and we do some other weird stuff. There's like an initiation ceremony and some paddling and you have to wear a mask and it's all sorts of weird stuff. Yeah. Look, it has to happen. It's a requirement at this point. It has to happen.
Starting point is 00:58:45 It builds character, though. It's good for you. And if you screw up at any point in time, you get put on double secret probation until the next initiation ceremony. And if you do it to somebody too many times, it turned out like Eddie with a really weird Benford Taint Picks. But I digress. That's fine. I'm sure he's got a therapist. He is a therapist.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Yeah. I think all therapists have to have therapists. I'm pretty sure that's how that works. That's why we have so many of them. See, because you got one therapist, but they need a therapist. So they train another one. Good point. Good point.
Starting point is 00:59:20 So yeah, we will not be here next Thursday. We will be taking our little show on the road, we will record content while we are out of town and I will attempt to post it here and there. I have either disappointed or alarmed my wife, I'll find out just as soon as we were hopefully both. We'll see if there's bruises come next week. Possibly. But anyway, Matter of Facts podcast is going to go out the door. We will not talk to you in a week, but we will be in touch.
Starting point is 00:59:47 And when we get back down to Terra Firma, we will get back with the show and the regular schedule. But in the meantime, I guess watch social media and keep an ear out for the podcast and we'll be dropping some content here and there on the road on the way to grandma's house. Now my wife is staring at me. I'm a little... You're definitely in trouble. Good night everybody. It's weird.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Bye y'all. So Thanks for watching!

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