The Prepper Broadcasting Network - Matter of Facts: SCOTUS Makes Heads Explode

Episode Date: July 8, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to the MatterFacts Podcast on the Prepper Broadcasting Network. We talk prepping guns and politics every week on iTunes, Stitcher, and Spotify. Go check out our content at mofpodcast.com on Facebook or Instagram. You can support us via Patreon or by checking out our affiliate partners. I'm your host, Phil Rabelais, and my co-host Andrew Bobo is on the other side of the mic, and here's your show. Welcome back to the MatterFacts Podcast. Andrew and I are not streaming this because I suck as a podcast producer and we literally figured out what we were going to talk about this week while I was, you know, praying to St. John. Well, so that
Starting point is 00:00:36 and it doesn't, I mean, you and I, you and I over the last, what, eight years or so, one of the things that we've talked about trying to get better at is like hey let's plan on topics and like let's do some you know and not know that today well I mean it also it doesn't help that I've been traveling the last like month between our mof trip and then came back worked for a week left for the Upper Peninsula for a week came back i'm home for two days and then i uh i'm going up to visit my parents for the week for this entire week of fourth of july and basically i'll be back i don't know like i don't even remember knowing i want to be back so so yeah so it's just been a busy So with my – and then on top of my work schedule,
Starting point is 00:01:28 we already have a hard enough time scheduling something. So this just adds to the shenanigans. And I've been hopping from one foot to the other just, you know, just busy, busy, busy, busy. And in two weeks, I'm going to be stuck in – stuck out of town for a week for work so i don't know well you'll either have to skip a show or try to pre-record something i mean i'm gonna if i were driving i would just bring all my podcasting equipment and say well we could probably get together one evening while i'm sitting at the hotel room, but this isn't that kind of a deployment. So I don't know what I don't know. Flying or flying. Well, yeah, first of all, I'm flying for work. That's nice for you. I know how much you
Starting point is 00:02:13 like flying. I detest flying. If I was supposed to fly, I would have been born with wings or rocket up my ass, but neither of those are the case. So the bigger problem is that i don't know what my work schedule is going to be like up there like i'm supposed to be like you know on a relatively stable banker's hours type of schedule but this isn't that kind of deployment i could be working 12 hour days while i'm up there and if that happens i just i can't reliably tell you oh yeah we'll be able to get together at this time at this date you know i don't know yeah it's whatever um i don't know uh we'll figure something out but yeah so before we get to current events do you have any preparedness projects you would like to share with the audience anything cool going on in your world not really anything cool i mean just been camping and uh just figuring out my tent and uh been using the uh the old truck tent
Starting point is 00:03:11 uh quite a bit over the last month um and then just re refiguring out kind of like what i want to do uh maybe some stuff i'd like to change or uh like the deck drawer system that i have uh i've i think i've repacked that thing like i don't know at least a couple times just trying to like fit because i've been like i have shoot i have a i have a truck jack i have a jack in there for my truck uh just because i don't trust the nice flimsy one that the dealerships give you or that the manufacturers give you. So I have a one or two-ton jack sitting in the drawer system with the handle. I have an axe I've been utilizing. So what's nice about the new deck drawer system is the new redesign
Starting point is 00:04:00 with the single drawer for Tacomas and stuff is they left the the sides open so they used to be completely closed all the way to like corner to corner of your bed and now those are actually open so like I have a smaller axe that I keep in the drawer and then I have a lot I have a bigger axe that is a lot you know bigger to swing and stuff like that but I have that and I just I slid that like right into the side it fits perfect uh so i have um yeah so i'm just trying to figure out uh how to better utilize my space uh also i need to buy a bracket for my i have a five gallon propane tank uh that i have packed in the drawer which if i buy the if i buy a uh or build a bracket uh then, of course, that will be out of the drawer system,
Starting point is 00:04:48 so that will free up some space. But, no, I mean, overall, I'm really happy with the setup. The entire time in the UP, or Upper Peninsula for those of you not from Michigan or familiar with terminology, I ran my fridge uh my electric fridge the icico i ran that off of my goal zero uh the whole week uh well all the way until we got to the airbnb but for four days basically i ran it off my goal zero i bought a set of boulder 100 briefcase solar panels so i had those sitting out and it charged it up enough to where like it charged i just put them out all day long and it actually charged the battery all the way
Starting point is 00:05:31 through the days to where at night it would run on it and that i'm really really happy with when you have that fridge on eco mode and have it set to where it's not like a stupid ridiculous like temp like you know obviously if it's set to 32 or 20 or 30 degrees it's going to work harder to keep that temperature versus i think i only had i mean i had beer and some some food uh i mean i had steaks and stuff in there but i mean i kept it at roughly 39 40 degrees uh and it kept everything cool and honestly like i noticed the it didn't run that much like it didn't run hardly at all uh like I noticed, it didn't run that much. Like it didn't run hardly at all. Or when it did, it didn't take up much juice.
Starting point is 00:06:08 So I think one night, I honestly, because it got cold, it got down to like four low 40s the one night. It actually, I noticed my battery, I think the next morning, it only dropped, I think like 10% or something like that. So it didn't drop it hardly at all. So I'm really liking that setup. The only thing I would like to do different is maybe get a bigger goal zero. I have the 500X.
Starting point is 00:06:33 I'd like to get the 1,000 just for the added security of if it's a cloudy day and I can't charge the panels, then that should last it, you know, that should keep it a full day, uh, versus I think it's like 20 hours or something like that, uh, on the current, uh, the current unit or whatever. But, so I don't know. I mean, there's a couple of things that, uh, that I'm looking at that it would be nice to change. I definitely want to do a battery setup in my truck. Uh, really found out, found that out. Uh, but, uh, but no uh it's good i like it and uh i mean that's basically just trying to use my gear uh and figure out what i want to change and uh just yeah just
Starting point is 00:07:14 trying to make a plan for it just because things aren't cheap and i have not that much money so yeah and the two things i would offer to you because you know i've i feel like i might be just a little bit further down the road of like 12-volt fridge and power stations because just because I've been playing with them a little bit longer, I always make a point of making – I mean, obviously, like make sure your fridge is in the shade. I feel like the ambient temperatures up where you're at were helping you out a lot. Like I've gone camping. I try not to go camping when it's retard hot outside for obvious reasons but the difference in having that your fridge in the shade versus sitting in full sun can be massive and a lot of times i leave my fridge sitting on the back of
Starting point is 00:07:58 my truck underneath my soft topper which is beautiful because i've got shade no matter what but i've also got like you know i can roll up the sides and i've got tons of airflow so i'm not just baking the 12-volt fridge in a hot truck or you know under a hot soft topper where the hot air is no way to escape um the other thing and a lot of people don't think about this i always try to put my power station where it's in the shade. Because lithium-ion batteries and lithium-ion phosphate batteries, everything I've ever read indicates that they perform better in the shade. They perform better when they're not baking in the sun. Electronics don't like getting hot. So I always, like, if I have the ability to put the Jackery on the back
Starting point is 00:08:45 of the truck and I'll have the power, I'll have the, uh, the solar panels either sitting on top of my soft topper, or I'll have them set up on the side of the truck, but I keep the Jackery inside the bed of the truck undercover. And if I can't do that for some reason, which there's been, there's been times where just the way the campsite is laid out i have to put the panels too far away from the truck to get good sun and in that case i'll actually take the the uh jackery and i'll tuck it up underneath the side of one of them just any amount of shade you can get for your power station is going to help it work a little more efficiently it's just you know yeah the one thing i'm going to do is i'm going to actually pick up goal zero obviously i mean every company makes their own thing but uh yeah goal zero i'm going to
Starting point is 00:09:29 buy they have a 30 foot extension for the the uh solar panels to the battery uh yeah i'm gonna i'm buying that thing because i was very limited to how far i could put like i mean basically i had my fridge and i had the the goal zero on my front seat the front passenger seat the the isaco fridge was actually my back in the back seat uh and i can only it was like a six foot cord so i was very limited to range and unfortunately the week that we were up there there was a couple nice really nice sunny days which i could probably have pulled it out but there was just not it mostly it rained. It was rain off and on. It was very, the weather this past week up in the Upper Peninsula, and Michigan in general, was very bipolar.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Very rain, then sun, and then rain, clouds, sun. I mean, it was very crazy. So, yeah, so very limited. So I'm going to buy that cord so I can pull it out at least like a good 30 feet away from where it's sitting, if it's in the truck. And so that kind of limited me. But, yeah, other than that, I mean, that's the thing is we found out, my buddies that I was with, we found out that our gear was pretty good. I found out that I'm very happy with the tent on the truck because we had a we had a nasty thunderstorm roll through that i don't know what the gusts were they were reporting gusts from this particular
Starting point is 00:10:50 string of thunderstorms up into like 80 90 mile an hour winds and um so we i know when it started raining at like 5 30 in the morning uh the the lightning woke me up and the thunder because it was i mean it hit so clear i mean it sounded like a bomb went off it hit so hard and uh but i remembered i unzipped the front of my uh my tent and i looked and the one guy one of my friends was in a tp style like hot tent uh sitting by like he was set up by the lake and another another friend was on the other side of the campsite that like uh or our our site in a normal kind of tent but i mean still and then i had a pop-up i bought a pop-up and so we had that up and we had it staked down and that was probably the best hundred bucks that i've ever spent on something because that thing was a champ like the winds come the winds would
Starting point is 00:11:41 kick up i unzipped the tent i was like all right my the two guys they're still in their tents they didn't blow away but then i was looking at my uh my pop-up and like i at one point obviously we're not recording video but it was like slanted like this like the legs were it never came never budged and never came undone stakes held great but man those legs held up nice so it was it was pretty gnarly there for a second and uh but i'm glad so you know all of our gear performed really well really happy with everything that was going on so um and we caught some fish uh on the one day and we had a good fish fry rate i always like the idea of um lake or like field uh field to table or lake to table within an hour or a couple like two hours
Starting point is 00:12:26 and so the idea that we caught two nice pike uh had them cleaned deep fried and eaten within an hour of catching them like i don't know just something about it it just made it taste better no i i can certainly understand that i mean there's an aspect of i don't know i i i believe as hippy dippy as it sounds that like there's something missing from our our societal modern lifestyles that gets rekindled when you go camping when you you you are able to harvest your protein from nature and even if you don't do that, like we usually don't, we just bring our food out there with us.
Starting point is 00:13:08 But I think there's just something, I feel like there's something missing from modern society that you rekindle when you go out camping and you are out there in nature and you're not just bathing, air conditioning and, you know, staring at Netflix and playing on your phone the whole day. Like that's always been
Starting point is 00:13:25 a big thing with me and my family when we go camping it's like i don't want cell phones in hands the whole time like i want i want i want to listen to the squirrels chittering at each other and the birds squawking and like i want all that because i feel like we need that occasionally mm-hmm so i unfortunately have not been camping because it is right now, right now, this very minute outside. It is almost noon and it's 92 degrees outside, which means the real feel is probably 122. The Rabbley family will not be going camping again for a while we're actually going to the beach in july because you know it's a perfect thing to do when it's hot as hell outside is go sit on a beach and roast but not really good camping weather um i am still working on that uh the man pack that you and i have been talking about which i will have it at prepper camp and
Starting point is 00:14:23 i think by the time i get to prepper camp i will have something fairly interesting to show the people who do come out um so i recently purchased a 17 meter long or about a 41 foot tall spider beam branded um fiberglass telescoping mast to use for my roll-up j-pole antenna it's not a strap to the side of your pack and like you know go humping into the woods kind of setup i mean it's almost four feet tall fully collapsed it's a big man it's a for a field mast it's a big one it's one of the tallest i found and it's very sturdy and it's very heavy but um i went ahead and built a guy ring for it measured out some guy lines it's at this point it's ready to just go pick a spot plant the plant the bottom of it in the dirt stake it out a couple of different directions and then stick an antenna 40 feet up in the air with
Starting point is 00:15:26 no trees or anything else around me and 40 feet of antenna height now means i can at least around here i can get over the top of a lot of trees and it means that at prepper camp we'll be able to unless orchard lake pitches a holy fit about it we'll be able to stick an antenna 40 feet up in the air and we should be able to unless orchard lake pitches a holy fit about it we'll be able to stick an antenna 40 feet up in the air and we should be able to cover the entire campground from there i mean hills in elevation notwithstanding the the line of sight the line of sight like measurement the math says that i should have line-of-sight communications out to 8 miles in full simplex with a 40-foot antenna height. So we should have no problem reaching.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Yeah, I mean, obviously we're in a bowl, but there should be no reason why we can't reach our campsite. No reason at all. The only piece I have left to get is the Argent Data Systems SR1 Simplex repeater controller, which one of our patrons, Stuart, has already made me the data interface cable I need to connect that to my MANPAC. I really just need to, like, order that, do some setup on it, do some testing, plug it in. And I'm not—I don't think I'm deluding myself by saying there's going to be some test and tune involved here. Cause like I'm integrating two things together that best I can tell haven't been done many times. So I think it's going to take some playing with the settings, but I think when we get to Prepper Camp for anybody that's out there that will be at Prepper
Starting point is 00:17:03 Camp with a GMmrs license and gmrs radio i think i'll be able to stand up a simplex repeater to cover that area basically out of a backpack so we'll see i mean if it works it works and if it doesn't it'll be a learning experience either way but i would like to be able to to demonstrate that capability for the people that come out to prepper camp just because you, one of the things we talk about in the preparedness community is a need for off-grid communications. And your average person doesn't have a backpack with a radio in it. They have a little bitty handheld, which only has maybe a mile of range. if I can demonstrate that it's possible to build a mid-range repeater system that you can deploy out of the back of a truck that will have about an eight an eight to an eight to fifteen mile
Starting point is 00:17:53 you know diameter coverage area that's a massive capability that I can see a lot of people being interested in but that's my that's been my long-term project lately nice yes so go ahead and call me radio dork if you want it it's interesting to me but it's just you you know how my brain works man like after all this time podcasting together i i get interested in the subject and then i just dive all the way down into it and i don't come for air until i feel like i've got the whole thing figured out yeah but no it's good it's not a bad thing but yeah um no i mean we might as well get to uh i mean we're talking we just want to talk about some current events today uh as well oh are there a bunch of them yeah there's a bunch of them um we'll stay away
Starting point is 00:18:46 from the disaster that was the uh the the debate uh just because everybody i hate i did not watch it for a particular reason i know you didn't either uh and it was just it it's ridiculous so good luck on the golf course to both of those guys not only not only did i not watch it but the debate spoiled like everything because you could not go anywhere on social media without 10 different channels live streaming that event and commenting on it and i'm just like can we just talk about anything else other than this right now please i was actually really happy i it was on and i honestly, like, I never saw a single thing online about it. Uh, I mean, I saw like the disaster that Biden was, uh, but, uh, other than that, I did not
Starting point is 00:19:31 see a single live stream. Yeah. So I was pretty happy with it. But, um, no, one thing I wanted to throw out there is, uh, the, the whole Ukraine war, uh, obviously whether you're for it or against it, what you want to support the troops, you don't want to support them, I don't really care. But the one thing that I know, I feel like the American people are sick of is endless wars.
Starting point is 00:19:53 We just got out of a 20-year war that basically solved zero. We went in, took the Taliban out of power, fought for 20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan. Countless, I mean, how many people were wounded and killed, soldiers and stuff, and families torn apart, not to mention the amount of people that died and the civilians that died on both sides too. Actually, I mean Afghanistan and Iraq. on both sides too or you know actually i mean you know afghanistan and iraq uh but then 20 goes you know go down 20 years later and basically u.s pulls out and the taliban take back over and so
Starting point is 00:20:32 and we are now sending the taliban if you actually look into it the taliban the u.s government is sending money to the afghan government up to like i don't like 40 million dollars or some crap like that uh i think every week uh so we're basically uh yeah we're funding the taliban the u.s government is so good for us uh but anyway the ukraine war uh the one thing was you know i know i've heard a lot of people say we just like people we don't want to see u.s troops in. troops on ground fighting against Russia, potentially China, and now potentially North Korea. And the fact that I feel like this current Jokovin administration, their work around it is contractors. So the U.S., the Biden administration is actually moving to allow contractors to be deployed to Ukraine. That's going to be great for the contracting companies.
Starting point is 00:21:31 There's going to be a lot of money involved in that. And then you're going to get military and former military workers, military members and stuff who are now contractors. You're going to get them on the ground. or military members and stuff who are now contractors, you're going to get them on the ground. The thing is, where I can see it going south is you're going to have U.S. former, whether they're former or not, you're going to have U.S. military members over there potentially fighting.
Starting point is 00:22:01 And then, like, I mean, what I'm trying to say basically is, like, this is a cop-out from the government, the U.S. government, to say, well, we don't have U.S. military, active military, which I'm pretty sure there is active military on the ground right now anyway. There has to be. It's just very secretive. way around of saying no u.s military members are actively fighting in the area uh which uh you know but u.s personnel are i mean u.s america americans are fighting over in ukraine so so yeah let's call this what it is like back in the 1980s when russia was invading afghanistan it's not it i would like to think it is beyond the pale of debate, even though some idiot out there is going to debate it, that the CIA, the United States
Starting point is 00:22:51 government, was funding the Afghanis to the tune of millions in a clandestine operation that was designed to flood Afghanistan with weapons, and the training to use those weapons, by the way, so that they could go shoot at the Russians. And it was for no other reason than the fact that we wanted to bleed Russia. And I see this in very much the same guise. Like we could debate, we could debate whether or not that's the right move to make, but like the United States funding Ukraine for the sole purpose of bleeding Russia. I just, I don't know. I am very conflicted about this in moments like this, because on the one hand, I am a student of history, and I understand that if the French had not interceded in the Revolutionary War, we very likely would still be, you know, tax slaves to the British
Starting point is 00:23:45 crown, because I don't know that we would have come out of the other end of the engagement the way it did without the French intervening and giving us weapons and money and arms. So on the one hand, I'm sympathetic to the country of Ukraine. But on the other hand, I just keep going back to this idea that like what is our goal there? It seems to me as though we're not so much trying to like put Ukraine in a position to win the war. We just want it to keep going on. to send millions upon millions of dollars to a foreign nation in the middle of a war with an adversary that is known to hold grudges for decades at a time when our own nation is eyeball deep in debt and dealing with massive social unrest and massive economic problems
Starting point is 00:24:41 in our own backyard so it's it's not that i am unsympathetic to ukraine it's more the fact that i'm like i'm not going to go to my neighbor's house with a bucket of water to put their house to put the fire out on their front porch when my roof is on fire we got problems we need to deal with right here and there doesn't seem to be appetite for that the one thing that they the one thing that they are saying in this too is supposedly which it start it's starting out like it's gonna i feel like it's gonna start out this way and just like the bump stock ban when they when actually trump did that whole thing and gave the atf the ability to do that i remember you and i talking about it and how slippery of a slope it's going to be for him to give the atf ability you know because i remember they i remember they he opened it up to them to say hey reclassify this do
Starting point is 00:25:29 whatever and i remember i was talking about and saying this is a slippery slope if they're going to do this with one thing what are they going to do with next and look at the path that the atf has taken they basically took you know they basically took it and ran and went full freaking retard with it and was like hey look what i can do but anyway this this article is also saying that uh it's it's going to be strictly for the repairs to the the systems that the u.s is sending over so the ukraines are supposed to be getting a bunch of f-16 jets here this year apparently so they want to make it to where they can actually instead of because supposedly right
Starting point is 00:26:05 now all the equipment that's that needs to be repaired is getting shipped out out of country to other country neighboring countries like romania and stuff like that where the u.s are where it's getting fixed uh and then it's getting sent back allowing contractors to go in to fix the stuff is supposedly going to help speed up and help Ukraine get some leg up on Russia. But we both know that's not going to happen because, like you said, Russia is going to hold a grudge, and Russia doesn't lose. They go full potato if there's any idea. I mean, you can see it happening in the past where they just carpet bombed.
Starting point is 00:26:41 I mean, they went full scorched earth when the idea of them possibly losing or something was going to happen. They were like, hey, watch this. So we'll see what happens. It's going to be interesting. But, yeah, I'm sick of us sending money. I saw a meme, I think, on Instagram the other day or a couple days ago or a week ago or whatever that said, like,
Starting point is 00:27:04 if the U..s government has enough money to send overseas to fund a war the american people are getting taxed too much hallelujah like that's just it's crazy to me like i mean and that's the thing is we are so so yeah but uh yeah that's interesting so so pumped so kick the clutch and let me shift a gear. I know before the show started, we were talking about the Supreme Court ruling against Chevron deference. And you mentioned that you're not super up to speed on that legal principle. But I had mentioned, like, I wanted to talk about it on the show because I want genuine reactions. And so for the listeners that aren't familiar, Chevron deference is a principle that's been in place in our legal landscape for quite a few decades.
Starting point is 00:27:55 I'd have to go back and research when it originally came about. But if memory serves me, it was actually an EPA case that originally set this precedent. And the idea was basically that if an executive agency is sued based on a rule that they are promulgating, and if this sounds like it has a lot of bearing on like ATF promulgating rules, and it does stick with me though, but it's way bigger than just ATF. This is ATF, this is EPA, this is Bureau of Land Management, this is all executive branch agencies, This is Bureau of Land Management. This is all executive branch agencies, all the three-letter agencies. If they promulgate a rule supposedly to interpret legislation because the legislation wasn't written perfectly and then they are sued to have that rule stopped, the courts would defer, Chevron deference, they would defer to basically the interpretation of the agency to basically say like well you're the epa you're all are the experts in protecting the environment that's why you're the environmental protection agency so we the courts are going to take y'all's
Starting point is 00:28:55 word for it that the rule you have promulgated directly pertains to the legislation you're trying to interpret and that's as far as their legal, you know, thinking ever went. The government said this, and the government looked at the government's rule and determined the government did no wrong. And if that sounds freaking insane, then, you know, welcome to my life. But that was the principle of Chevron deference. So every time we sued the ATF or the EPA or any other agency and said, hey, this rule oversteps the boundaries of this legislation, we had an uphill fight every inch of the way because the court would ultimately say, but the government said this and we determined the government did no wrong because we are the government. So by the Supreme Court's finally striking down,
Starting point is 00:29:46 and I believe this was done in relation to another EPA case, but by the Supreme Court striking down the principle of Chevron deference, they are sending a very clear signal to the lower courts and to the executive branch and the three-letter agencies that there are going to be strict limits on what you can promulgate as a rule based upon trying to interpret legislation or under the guise of interpreting legislation. They're basically saying, they're basically stating, I believe, Congress has the responsibility of lawmaking. And if Congress doesn't write the law properly, that's not for y'all to say well we think they meant this so that's what we're gonna that's what we're gonna enforce the executive branch's job is to enforce the law the legislative branch's job is to make the law and if the
Starting point is 00:30:36 legislative branch screws up the law then the executive branch doesn't get to take it and run with it the legislative branch has to fix their house and write the laws properly. Or, Libertarian Phil says the legislative branch shouldn't be legislating so damn much about stupid stuff that they shouldn't be regulating. And then we wouldn't have all these problems. But you know, when you have a bunch of mouth-breathing idiots in one room that are all legislating on stupid stuff that they shouldn't be legislating on, inevitably they're going to screw a bunch of it up. And the executive branch being run by ideologue morons takes that and tries to run with it and that's how we wound up here so this doesn't like i was
Starting point is 00:31:16 saying andrew like this doesn't just impact the atf set trying to trying to turn a bump stock into a machine gun or trying to say that a pistol brace is a stock and therefore makes something an SBR. It impacts all those things, but it's not just that. It also goes back to the EPA and says, if this is the way the law was written, this is the way you have to enforce it. You can't say, well, they wrote this, but they meant all these things. You have to enforce the law and nothing but the law. It goes to Bureau of Land Management and it says, this is what was written. Your rules cannot be an outgrowth of the law. You have to enforce the law. So on the one hand, I'm kind of encouraged by the fact that Chevron
Starting point is 00:32:03 deference has finally been stricken down because asking the government to rule that the government knows best and therefore can do whatever they want is freaking stupid. It's a complete abortion of the separation of powers of the three branches of government to allow the executive branch to legislate on their whim. but on the flip side of things i also know just enough about our legal our our legal system in this country to know that this is not going to immediately overturn anything all the rules that have been written are still going to have to be drug kicking and screaming in a court they're all going to have to be challenged individually and it's still going to be the thing that frustrates me to no end it's going going to be, we get taxed millions upon millions of dollars, and then we have to spend what little we have left to hire lawyers to go into court to argue with the government that what they're doing is an abridgment of our rights,
Starting point is 00:32:56 and then they use our tax dollars to pay their own lawyers to screw us in the end. Yeah, that's what I always like about in the end. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I always like about fighting the government is they, I mean, you're going broke on both sides because not only do you have to spend your money to hire a lawyer and to fight on your behalf, but the government uses your money also to hire their lawyers, which are many,
Starting point is 00:33:29 to go against you. So, yeah, that's so good. Yeah, but then, like we were talking about earlier, that is Chevron deference in a nutshell. And by being overturned,
Starting point is 00:33:43 it's an enormous arrow taken out of the quiver of the ATF and gun control, the gun control movement. It's a huge step in the right direction. All of the people, and by the way, I tend to traipse around in Reddit because, damn it, it's a great freaking Intel gathering device because those people think that they're anonymous so they can just say whatever they want. And I believe people when they tell me who they are. But I am seeing people who are identifying themselves anonymously, but they're claiming they are federal employees who are absolutely peeing their pants over Chevron deference being taken away, over the fact that, like, the legislator that the legislators are too stupid to write the laws properly, and now we can't enforce the laws properly because of SCOTUS and this and the other. And I'm like, but this is the separation of powers, you morons. Y'all are not supposed to interpret the laws.
Starting point is 00:34:39 You're not supposed to do that. You're supposed to enforce them. And if the House and the Senate screwed up, make them go back and do their jobs properly. They get paid a lot more money than the rest of us. They should do their jobs properly. And if they can't, then they shouldn't be in office. It's just, you know, fill in a soapbox or having a rant. But it's just frustrating to know into me that the idea that I'm seeing expressed over and over and over is, well, we're smarter than they are, so we're going to do their job for them instead of doing our job. And somehow this is renewed calls to pack the Supreme Court
Starting point is 00:35:23 or to add 10 more justices, because obviously all of Trump's appointments are just causing all this havoc. When, from my perspective, what's happening is that the Supreme Court is saying you're supposed to enforce the law. Enforce the law. Stop trying to create it. Yeah. Well, and that's the thing is, I mean, when you hear – because that's the thing is every single time the Supreme Court overrules, because, I mean, that's what's funny is, so a number of gun issues have gotten in front of the Supreme Court or gotten thrown out or they haven't heard it,
Starting point is 00:35:56 and then you have those same people saying they're clapping. I mean, they're rejoicing that the Supreme Court, hey, that's great, you did your job, all this stuff or whatever. And then in the same breath, though, they turn rejoicing that the Supreme Court, hey, that's great, you did your job, all this stuff, whatever. And then in the same breath, though, they turn around and they overrule or they overturn like the bump stock ban. They overturned the Chevron deference or stuff like that. Now you have those exact same people saying we need to pack the courts just because it doesn't go in their favor. And that's the only reason. And that's, you know, so that's the thing is we need to pack the courts we need to make it so the the that they can't i don't know it they're bait it basically comes down to their piss didn't go their way so they want to cheat they want to do figure out a
Starting point is 00:36:36 way to cheat the system to make it so it goes their way every single time so yeah that's where we're at well and my only hope every time this whole court packing thing for Supreme Court comes up, my only hope is that you are old enough and I am old enough to remember when the rules of Senate confirmation were changed. Senate confirmation were changed. It used to be, I think it was 60-40. You had to have 60% of the senators that would confirm a political appointment. And then it got changed to 50-50 because, you know, Chuck Schumer and his infinite fucking wisdom got mad that their appointment couldn't be rammed through on a simple 50-50 majority vote. And he was warned, and I remember this soundbite, he was warned by congressional Republicans, you are going to regret doing this, because the thing you are doing today,
Starting point is 00:37:38 when the votes are going the other direction, it's going to be done back to you. And I'm telling you, I've lived long enough to watch that man probably regret the decision he made because when it was trump in charge and trump was making appointments the democrats didn't have the votes to hold him back and they would have if they left it the way it was previously well but then that's the thing though is they they go on tv and they cry about it and it's just like well hey listen this is what happened and yeah so yeah it's it's crazy i don't know but uh in that same breath i know we kind of touched on it was uh the supreme court striking down the bump stock band thank god so rejoice if you have a bump stock
Starting point is 00:38:18 you can um if you had to bury it put it in a you know put it in a closet put it in the corner shun it do whatever you had to do make it feel bad in a closet, put it in the corner, shun it, do whatever you had to do, make it feel bad, yell at it, and call it mean names because of all the death and mayhem that it caused, you can now pet it on the head and play with it again. But see, I never had a bump stock. I still don't own a bump stock. I don't want a bump stock. But no, that's the thing. Yeah, I'm the same way. I don't see own a bump stock. I don't want a bump stock. But no, that's the thing is, yeah, I'm the same way. I don't see a need for it. I don't want one.
Starting point is 00:38:50 I don't, I mean, they look fun. I've shot them before. But at the same time, just like force reset triggers and stuff like that, I've shot those. They're fun. But I personally, I don't see a need. However, because I don't see a need for it i don't think it needs to be banned and i also don't believe that it causes all the freaking death and destruction
Starting point is 00:39:12 that it that the atf the government and the anti-gunners say it did i don't care what you say a bump stock cannot with cannot hold that that rate of fire for that long but we're not going there that's a different that's a whole different uh different day but but i take a very different point of view with this whole debate like for me i don't care if a bump stock is a machine gun i don't care if it if it does i don't i do not care the only standpoint i'm willing to operate from at this point with regards to what civilians be able should be allowed to have and what government should be allowed to have is does the government have it are they going to give it up and when the answers are yes and no then i say the civilians should be able to have it so the government obviously has lots of machine guns
Starting point is 00:40:00 the army has machine guns the freaking marines have machine guns the son of a bitch and coast guard has machine guns the atf has machine guns the doj has machine guns everybody's got machine guns in the government everybody's got machine guns everybody's got select fire weapons so i don't care to have a debate about well this thing makes it shoot so much faster and it's so much more dangerous so the people can't be trusted with no if the government has it we should have a two period end discussion get over yourselves we should have f-16s and missiles and gatling guns and before anybody comes to me about this whole argument about well should the civilians have nuclear weapons i don't think the government should have nuclear weapons so that's my standpoint and it's intellectually pretty ironclad i don't think the government should have nukes i don't think they should have chemical. I don't think the government should have nukes. I don't think they should have chemical weapons.
Starting point is 00:40:45 I don't think they should have biological weapons. Even though, don't get me going down that friggin' rabbit hole about what I think COVID might have been, gain-of-function research and this, that, and the other. But all I'm saying is, if the government has it, and they're not giving it up, then we should have it too. And if that makes you uncomfortable, then perhaps the problem is that you trust your government more than I do.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Andrew, you have to save the blood pressure warning for when we're streaming the one time you use it and we're not live on the air yeah that's okay okay so for the audio listeners um y'all won't hear that but uh probably about i don't know six to eight months ago i made one of these goofy little things it built in our stream yard interface i've made a blood pressure warning and it's a klaxon and like a a red red text on the screen that says warning blood pressure dangerously high and i left it there specifically for andrew to use when i was cooking one off and he just fired it off and we're not streaming yeah i'm working on my timing god that is like the biggest that is the biggest emotional cock blocking i've ever seen on this show but seriously like that's that's my whole standpoint i don't i don't care to have a
Starting point is 00:42:05 debate about how dangerous bump stocks are i don't care have debate about whether or not it's full auto or not i i don't give a shit right the government had if the government has machine guns people should have machine guns too and if if your argument is well bump stocks turns into machine gun i don't care i don't care we should have machine guns too and until i can buy machine guns out of a vending machine with no background checks i don't care. I don't care. We should have machine guns too. And until I can buy machine guns out of a vending machine with no background checks, I don't care to have a debate about whether or not bump stocks make something a machine gun. Yeah, and that's the thing is, I mean, the whole, like everybody with Trump and stuff like that, I, he was, you know, his whole comment about basically giving the atf the green light to go after bump stocks and like we kind of talked about earlier was uh he doing that i remember when we talked
Starting point is 00:42:52 about that and he announced it and all that crap and i remember us talking about it and saying well that's a slippery slope because that basically gives the atf you know that they they gave them the green light to what are they going to go after next and we're seeing that we're seeing that that they basically were given the green light on this one thing and then they looked at every single thing and said what can we do now they went after I mean the force reset triggers the frame receiver rule the or the uh the pistol brace rule which just got stopped as well uh so we'll see where that goes but uh but yeah so it's interesting so i'm glad that this got overturned i'm hoping that it this it keeps going uh which it should uh it's ridiculous that it even has to go through the courts uh this long anyway uh but uh but yeah uh step in the right direction um another supreme court rule
Starting point is 00:43:48 was uh they made it basically uh to where the j6 protesters because it wasn't a riot it was not in a insurrection it was a simple gathering and a protest that just got out of hand whether or not you believe that there is fbi in place which i'm sure there was there were uh well yeah um there there's probably more fbi agents out there than actual protesters uh so but the fact that is that the u.s supreme court basically made it to where it makes it harder for like the j6 protesters and stuff like that to be charged with the laws that the federal government has. And I say federal government, I mean the Biden administration has been using to unconstitutionally jail a lot of protesters, people that they're going after for just simply being there. They didn't do anything.
Starting point is 00:44:43 It was if they were there, they're being trumped. these charges are being thrown at them it's making it harder so i'm hoping that this actually overturns some of those crap freaking charges and gets a lot of these people out of these americans out of uh out of jail uh sooner than uh sooner than later and sooner than it'd be nice to see all of them out uh because it's unconstitutional uh what they're going through yeah so my standpoint on this whole thing is that like i've reviewed as much of the information around january 6th as humanly possible and i will be the first to admit i have seen evidence that there were people who were genuinely behaving like assholes. Violent, breaking stuff, throwing stuff at police officers.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Take every one of them and charge them with exactly what they did, no more, no less, and hold them to account. But I've also seen lots of evidence of people who literally, like, got to a door that was propped open, literally got to a door that was propped open, walked inside, broke nothing, and basically helped themselves to an unscheduled tour of the building. And those two groups of people are being charged with the exact same thing, which is stupid. That's my gripe with January 6th. Or they were let in. That's the thing, too, is they were let in by the police, by the Capitol Police. They were let in the door the thing too is like they were let in by the police yeah by the capitol police they were let in the door showed around they were seeing there's a video of them walking around
Starting point is 00:46:09 talking and the guy like police or officers they're pointing stuff out and they're talking casually and they're just people walking around and saying oh well hey what's this over here and whatever but the thing is though is that's that's a taxpayer building yeah like i mean you – I mean, if I want to walk in there right now, I should bail it to, and without warning and without cause and without an appointment and all that crap. Do we even approach the fact that, like, one protester, Ashley Babbitt, was shot dead by Capitol Hill police officer? There's been, best I can tell, no frigging investigation or anything done into that shoot to determine if it was a good shoot or not. I mean, the person who put his knee on George Floyd's neck was crucified in court over a course of six months. His life was torn apart to find out if that was proper action taken or not.
Starting point is 00:46:59 But a guy dusts this unarmed woman in front of 100 witnesses and nothing. On video. No investigation. Yeah, on video. No investigation. I'm sorry. I just, like, there's a level of hypocrisy in place around the events of January 6th that I am just not able or willing to go along with because it just makes no freaking sense to me. I got into a very, very passionate discussion with someone that I love dearly,
Starting point is 00:47:28 who's very close to me. Huh? You said you? Get into a passionate discussion? Don't beat me to the punchline. And they referred to January 6th as the insurrection. And I don't know, maybe there was a lot going on in my personal life right then. Maybe I was just really keyed up, but I let it out.
Starting point is 00:47:47 I flat out told that person, I'm like, that was an insurrection. And they started trumpeting, you know, NBC, ABC bull crap. And I shut them down mid-sentence and I said, no. I'm like, do you want to know what theoretically in Minecraft I would do if I were quote-unquote overturn the government in that crowd on that freaking day. Do you know what those people would have done from the standpoint of, like, a military veteran who has training in how to freaking put together these kinds of operations to do direct assault? Do you want to know what we would have done? And I walked her through a whole plan. And she sat there with her
Starting point is 00:48:26 mouth hanging open and i was like if that was an insurrection if that was an attempt to take over the government it was the least it was the most poorly orchestrated most poorly equipped and most bullheaded stupid plan i've ever seen in my life because no one with any amount of experience in how to properly take a building and secure the people inside and take hostages would have done this this way. So on the face of it, I am not willing to accept that that was an insurrection. That's bullcrap because if it were truly an effort to take the government, to capture all the people that were in that building that day, it would have been done drastically differently. And that is why from the word go, I've never been able to accept that this was insurrection.
Starting point is 00:49:16 I do believe that there were people there that were protesting who probably got riled up and did some stupid shit. And by all means, if they broke stuff, defaced property, or injured her capital city police officers, then charge them with it. But when you start talking about grandma and what was the guy? The guy that had the buffalo horns. Oh, the shaman. Oh, yeah. The QAnon shaman.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Yeah, whatever they were, the QAnon shaman. But when you start talking about them just walking through goofing around and everything get over yourselves you can't convince me that's an insurrection what it was was a bunch of people who freaking let themselves into a building that they weren't supposed to so charge them with simple trespassing give them community service and let them freaking go the fact that they've been in jail for years is stupid. And it was stupid to pursue the charges. It was stupid it had to go to the Supreme Court. It was stupid that it took this long before some jurisdiction finally said this was stupid.
Starting point is 00:50:19 And I feel as though the DNC, the Democrats, they have freaking set fire to so much political capital by pursuing these people to this degree that it looks punitive and it looks political to a large segment of independents now. And that's the dangerous part. There are people who will always see J6 as an insurrection. You can't change their minds. It's not possible. There are people who will never see it as an insurrection. You can't change their minds. It's not possible. There are people who will never see it as an insurrection. You can't change their minds. But there's this big chunk of people in the middle, and they're starting to look at this with side eye.
Starting point is 00:50:54 Not that I think there's enough of those people left in the world, because I don't know, man. The more I look at politics in this country, the more bifurcated it looks and the less i see people using any amount of common sense to try to tease these things apart yeah that's two phil rants maybe we just shouldn't stream anymore for some reason being a being being on the internet in front of people just calms me down maybe we should just i should just sit in here in a dark room with a cup of coffee and just let it fly every time there you go um so yeah so basically our last thing we want to discuss is uh julian assange yes he is free after what four years been a hot minute uh i mean i know he's been in a battle a legal battle freaking for this article says like 14
Starting point is 00:51:46 years which is nuts uh but uh basically he pled guilty uh to u u.s espionage charge uh so basically he pled guilty looks like they sentenced him with like 64 months or some crap like that and then uh times 62 months he is due to be set in 62 months time already served so he's being released and all the stuff that he has on the government magically disappeared coincidentally i'm sure yeah that's that's odd yeah i my understanding from what i read was that that was part of his plea agreement, was that he had to expunge all that information from his media sources, and then he had to swear an affidavit that he was destroying all the original sources. Yeah, which, I mean, it's already on the Internet, so I'm sure it can be dug up somewhere.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Well, and that's the thing of it is that what julian assange so what the what the government is going to have to learn the hard way because you know you would have thought they learned this with cody wilson when it was um the liberator and uh defense distributed and when it was 3d printed guns and apparently they're gonna learn this the freaking hard way with julian assange all over again is that once one of these people who is prepared to risk it all puts it on the internet, you've already lost. You cannot stop the signal. You cannot turn off the Wayback Machine.
Starting point is 00:53:13 Like once it's on the internet, it's in the wild and it will always be in the wild. It will always be on a thumb drive in somebody's basement. It will always be on a CD-ROM. It will always be on a backup hard drive someplace in somebody's basement. It will always be on a CD-ROM. It will always be on a backup hard drive someplace in somebody's basement. You will never, ever, ever manage to get rid of it once it's on the internet. It will always be there and it will hide from you and it'll pop back up at the least convenient moments. So the moment Julian Assange put all that information out on the DNC, all the leaked emails, all thegin all the efforts to um to like
Starting point is 00:53:47 tilt the 2016 election towards hillary away from bernie sanders once he put all that on the internet he had already won he won the war before he the first shot was even fired and yet there are people in our government who are still trying to play checkers with people who are playing chess. And that's why I agree with you wholeheartedly. Like, this idea that, well, we made him take down the stuff we didn't like, and he has to burn the sources. So freaking what? He already won. He won the minute he did it, and he won for years afterwards while you were pulling your panties out of your butt trying to figure out how to get him to stop. It was too late.
Starting point is 00:54:27 So at this point, yeah, he can say, sorry for being a bad boy and undo, quote unquote, undo it all. But it's too late. He's already won. Now, the one thing I would love to point out at a moment like this is that Julian Assange is what we used to call a journalist. He's a person who goes looking for information and sources that are not popular with the current or any freaking government and publishes them for the people to be able to keep an eye on what their government is doing. And this level of persecution towards him ought to be alarming, but I feel like a broad swath of the American public is probably either neutral or a-okay with it we've gone from a people who intrinsically distrusted our government to a group of people who, like, baa in the field and eat the grass and do what we're told and think what we're told and behave like we're told. what we're told and behave like we're told and anyone who speaks unpopular truths that we used to call a journalist and we used to by the way by our way the way go out of our way to protect
Starting point is 00:55:51 we're now happy to see them locked up in prison for doing what nothing more nothing less than telling the american people hey your government's doing some shady stuff. Y'all should know about it. I mean, ask me how I feel about Edward Snowden. Same freaking problem. And he's been very upfront about the fact that, and I'm sure Julian Assange would probably echo this. Who am I guilty of betraying
Starting point is 00:56:17 if what I did was take information about the government and I gave it to the people? Who did I betray? I mean, but that's the thing is like, I mean, the people, and I feel like we're on the same page, but the same people who, if you're upset and you're worried
Starting point is 00:56:34 and you're tired of like the second amendment being trampled on, you should be feeling the exact same way about the first amendment. And if you're somebody who's upset about the first amendment, but you're not upset about the Second Amendment or actually any of them being trampled on,
Starting point is 00:56:49 you should probably reevaluate your feelings and your thought process because you should be upset that our entire Constitution, at one time or another and currently, is still being completely trampled on nonstop by our current government of any administration. Every single administration is guilty of it, Republican, Democrat, I don't care what color, blue, red, RD, whatever it is, they have trampled completely on our Constitution. Every single amendment, every one has been trampled on.
Starting point is 00:57:23 And so the fact that if you but that's the thing is like if you look at it and you're upset that if you're upset that the first amendment has been trampled on but then you're not upset about the other ones you yeah like i said you need to kind of reevaluate some stuff because you should be upset that every one of them especially the first you know the first two like the first and second, they're the first and second for a reason. And if it weren't for those, I mean, they take away our guns and our free speech. I mean, we're going to be political prisoners for the rest of our lives and generations to come.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Yeah, well, let's put the First Amendment into context. The, the, the, the linchpins of the First Amendment were, first of all, that government could not establish a religion. And that is because when we were all, you know, jolly old subjects of the King of England, there was a state-sponsored religion, and you were required to be a part of it, and you were required to tithe to it. And that's why our founding fathers said, nope, we're not having any part of that. There will be no state-founded religion. Everybody can do whatever the hell they want. Pray to whatever you want. Have fun.
Starting point is 00:58:34 And they also said, and by the way, while we're on that subject, you have the constitutional right to protest your government. Because if you spoke out against the King of England, you usually disappeared. protest your government, because if you spoke out against the King of England, you usually disappeared. So all I'm saying is, anytime we have trouble figuring out what those funny old men in white wigs really meant when they wrote these things, all we have to do is look 40, 50 years earlier, 40, 50 years prior to 1775, and we say, what was going on between us and the King of England at that time? You were not allowed to protest your government. You were not allowed to politely decline to be involved in the King's religion. You were not allowed to own arms.
Starting point is 00:59:13 You had no expectation of a fair, speedy trial. You had no right to privacy. And so when you start looking at all of our constitutional amendments, our founding fathers literally wrote a blueprint for how our country was going to be fundamentally different from the one they had left behind. And what do we have today? Hate speech laws. I would make a hell of a good argument, even though someone out there is going to get wildly offended by this, and I don't give a shit, but I would argue that pride in, you know, being sponsored by local, state, and federal government and pride being in classrooms is a state-sponsored religion. Convince me otherwise if you don't think so. All the gun control laws goes against the Second Amendment.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Search and seizure being what it is, I would argue that the Fourth and Fifth Amendment have been completely torn apart. I would say that the government's ability to punt a case down the road indefinitely to bleed you dry until you plea is an abridgment of a Fourth and Fifth Amendment right. It's a speedy trial, trial by jury of your peers. I mean, we could do an hour-long episode talking about all the way our constitutional rights have been torn apart over the years but what it goes back to is that we started off as a nation by saying this is the nation we left behind we're not going to do this again and 250 years later i feel like we're almost right back where we started which is freaking frustrating yeah yeah it's uh's 248 years is what we're going on. Will we make it to 250 at this rate?
Starting point is 01:00:50 Well, you know what they say about empires and stuff. But, yeah, no, it's pretty interesting because, yeah, and honestly with the grand scheme of things as far as how old some of these other countries, I mean, look at how old China is and how far that dates back and, uh, and everything. It's 248 years is not that long of time for people to say,
Starting point is 01:01:15 Hey, this is the right way of doing stuff. And then it completely just goes South, uh, from there. So, yeah. So,
Starting point is 01:01:23 yeah. So very interesting. Yeah. Well, I guess as, yeah. So, very interesting. Yeah. Well, I guess as we go to wrap this up, because now you've got to get off to work and I've got stuff to do today. But, like, this is something that we see very often in the business world
Starting point is 01:01:35 where a group of people start a business and it's a beautiful idea and it runs great and everything's super efficient and then the successive generation of managers don't have the same passion or don't have the same ideals or they don't have the same expertise. And so the business runs a little bit less efficiency. And every time, every generation that management turns over, the business slowly grinds to a halt because the genius that started
Starting point is 01:02:00 the business, and I don't mean genius in a singular, but the genius, the intelligence, the ideals, the methodology that started the business is no longer the one that's running it. And I feel like that's what we have here. The Founding Fathers were geniuses. They were ideologues, by the way. They were people who, like, fundamentally, if you told them, well, you're not running your country right, they would tell you to go to hell. They didn't care. They didn't care to have a debate about how the king's rule was better than what they had set up. They were ideologues. They were ardent ideologues.
Starting point is 01:02:31 And they were also freaking geniuses to set up a system in which the rabble, the people, could rule themselves through electing their leaders in a way that that could happen without turning in anarchy. For 250 years. They were geniuses. But every successive generation of leaders we've had since then has effed this up worse every time. And now we're where we are today. How do we fix it? I don't know, man. I'm going back to the Four Seasons argument.
Starting point is 01:03:00 You know, the weak men have made hard times. That's why we're in the situation we're in today. The hard times are going to have to make strong men. And the strong men are going to have to unscrew this whole problem. Welcome to Phil's TED Talk. Welcome to Phil's TED Talk. How do we make things better? By letting it burn to the ground and then plow the ashes into the ground to fertilize the next generation.
Starting point is 01:03:21 Have fun. Have fun. All right. Well, you have fun fun. Alright, well, you have fun today. Yeah, I'm sure I will. I gotta go do a good deed and go run some errands.
Starting point is 01:03:31 But, we'll talk to everybody in another week and maybe, just maybe, Andrew will bust out the blood pressure warning on me when I'm in the middle
Starting point is 01:03:38 of just screaming bloody murder live on the air one time. Matter of fact, Hex Podcast going out the door. Good night,
Starting point is 01:03:45 everybody. See ya. Thank you. Thanks for watching!

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