The Prepper Broadcasting Network - Matter of Facts: When Hollywood Gets It Right

Episode Date: August 24, 2026

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Welcome back to the Matterfax podcast on the Prepper Broadcasting Network. We talk prepping guns and politics every week on iTunes, Stitcher, and Spotify. Go check out our content at MWFPodcast.com on Facebook or Instagram. You can support us via Patreon or by checking out our affiliate partners. I'm your host, Phil Ravley, Andrew and Nick are on the other side of the mic, and here's your show. I have to admit, I am always going to think of Stewart when I see that intro, because it came out so... It came out so good. full credit to

a good friend of the show and my wife for putting that together for us because they did a better job than I would have. Oh my gosh, yes. I am not artistic by any stretch of the means. No, no. We are the other tistic, not artistic. Hey, we got the tistic that's productive.

Depends on how you define productive, bud. Depends on how you define it. Look, obsession with certain things can be very productive. It can be. Anyway, welcome back in Matter of Fex podcast. We get a topic for y'all tonight

that is almost certainly going to get us booted off of YouTube and Facebook this afternoon because free use is not free use unless you're in a weird setting with weird people and then it might be. Yeah.

But being able to do commentary on someone else's content apparently only works if you have enough money to sue meta and we don't. So... Or too much. if in the middle of this stream we disappear, we'll probably still be at Rumble.

Hopefully. And Rumble usually doesn't kick people off for doing commentary on bits, but we do have a mini topic first. We do a mini topic. We have to do the admin work. Have to do the admin work. Or everything will go to hell in a handbasket after that.

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This is the pecan pie. So we talked about smores before. This is the other new offering. I have a bag of each coming. So I will spoil this for you now. I like the smores better than the pecan pie, which is kind of disappointing because like the pecan pie was kind of my idea. The pecan pie is very, I don't want to say it's mild.

It's very subtle. So like when you drink, when I drink this black, I can taste the pecan. It's like it has a nutty taste to it. Okay. Put a little bit of creamer in here and it mutes it down a little bit. So what the one thing I haven't tried yet would be to put like some brown sugar and no creamer in it to see if I can like get a little bit of sweetness. and the molasses taste

and then punch that up without taking away the pecan flavor. You can try that. You could try a little bit of honey too. Potentially. That's a milder sweetness. Yeah.

But if you're chasing like pecan pie taste. Brown sugar would be okay. Yeah. A little bit brown sugar, no creamer. That's like the next thing for me to try. I like the coffee. Like my metric for coffee is

if I drink, if I can drink it black, it's pretty good. I don't care if it for the smores as much black, but we had that conversation. It's not that it's bad. It's just it's a smokiness and a medium roast. Those two things do a weird thing in my brain.

But I'm very happy with a pecan pie. Good. A little bit of coffee creamer and sweetener makes for a nice afternoon cup. Nice. And seeing as how I did not, I ran out of coffee at work today, I had my one morning cup and no coffee until I got home. It was a rough day. That's heresy.

Even I had coffee when I got home today. Oh, I had coffee when I got home. But I used to, usually have to have like some periodic caffeination throughout the day. Yeah, yeah, to continue tolerating the existence of your coworkers. Mostly so I can resist the urge to like, you know, push a printer down the stairwell or yeat a laptop out the window. But, you know, I had to be an adult this time without my mind-altering chemicals.

Well, you know, some days we all have to do that. So before we started the show, me and Phil were talking about things we got to do. this winter. We do have some things to do. In the shooting space. And Phil admitted that he's still hand priming all of his brass. All of my everything. Despite not having, despite having a reloading press that takes, which I did look it up,

I was wrong on the price, Phil. It is $34. Oh! For the primer tube handling arm for your RCS rock trucker. a large rifle priming tube and a small pistol priming tube. I mean, 34 bucks versus going to a bench primer for, what's it, like 100 bucks? 125, I think it was. I will tell you this.

It is a bit fiddly getting it set up on the rock trucker the first time. And then once you get it in there, it's in. It takes about 10 minutes to set up, really, to get it timed in right. You know, I love it. it. I've used it for all of my large rifle shooting and precision rifle shooting stuff. I've done all my priming on that.

I had a lineman, the old C style, and I found their thing occasionally would just chuck a live primer across the room, which was great. Suboptimal. Super helpful, especially when you run them over with the vacuum later. That gets exciting on occasion.

But the rock trucker one's been pretty good. All things considered. It's got a little spring in it and a little detent pin that keeps the primers from just cascading out of the tube. Yeah. It's not bad. It's not bad. It beats hand priming.

Yeah, I mean, I don't know. The money issue is not the thing to me. I hurt, but I, and I, okay, so we have comments. We're going to have to loop back around too. But Stewart's saying, Phil is doing it right, hand prime. Here's the problem. I will always hand prime. my max loads

because I'm not making a crap ton of those I'll always hand prime my precision my precision loads because I'm already taking the time to like you know weigh a recharge and all the nonsense with all that so like I don't mind hand primed that my problem is becoming I am

beginning to develop repetitive stress injuries in my right hand and my right elbow from doing this five six seven hundred times in a sitting and I mean, like, you know, call what it is. I'm 43, guys. Like, things start to hurt after a while,

and I'm just reaching that point where I'm having that conversation with myself about how much am I really gaining by hand-priming those rounds when we're talking about, like, bulk plinking ammo, that I'm not hand-weighing charges. I'm just throwing you going. Yep. Check your mic. I think you're saying your audio's coming in about half the line of mine.

Hmm. Give me one second. Mike check. Still, still quiet. Mike check? That's way too high. Mike check? Yeah, a little too high. Good.

I got one more thing to check. I bet I bumped something. Testing? Seems okay. All right, audience, give me a high sign if that's okay-ish. We'll have to wait for their feedback. I mean, I've got automatic. The only thing I can think of it was, was that I heard and I adjusted this afterwards.

after we started, which I hate doing. But you know how every now and then when we boot this up into Edge? It tweaks the settings a little bit? It can, yeah. Drag all that's not better? Slight bump. So you need to kick you up a little bit. Okay.

Testing. Your auto adjust is off. It should be. Why does it keep dragging down, though? That's a great question. That's thoroughly weird. I'll tell you what? You want to hold the four?

Oh, you know what? If you kick out, it'll dump the videos. Yes. That's all right. Okay. We'll figure it out. Testing. That is probably about as high as I can go without, like, blowing ears off.

That's a little better. Okay, so two things happen. First of all... I can always turn mine down so people can equalize it. Yeah, I turned off the... I turned off the... I turned off the... echo cancellation because that got flipped on for some odd reason.

And I hate doing that because if you and I like clip each other a little bit, it knocks the volume down. It does really weird stuff. Yeah. I kicked my volume down a little bit, so hopefully it matches better. And the other problem is I need to move some stuff around on this desk because this is like the third time I have bumped the freaking game on this freaking this recorder because it faces away from me directly towards a pile of paper that needs to be, um, five. So, you know. Critically important filing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Anyway, so like I was generally loud, so. Like I was saying. And before we had all the audio problems ahead, get fixed. So I hear what Stewart saying just get a progressive. I don't want a progressive press. I'm really just in the situation where, like, I need to figure out some method of, getting this priming done in a way that I can spread out the strain so that it's not just here and it's here because this doesn't hurt.

Yeah, I mean, as much as I like progressive presses, if you're not going to sit down and load 2,000 rounds in the morning, you probably don't need a progressive. Like I have 7 or 8,000 rounds of 9mm breast that I need to load. likely going to dedicate a weekend to just making all seven or eight thousand rounds. I don't have the time to do multiple deals of that, multiple rounds of that at like 200 rounds in an afternoon. But Raggle says, what if he could find a good deal on one for you? I was offered the best deal on one possible.

I was offered one for free and I turned it down. Well, I mean, I'm insane. I'm just saying, guys, like, I, it, the reason I do not have a progressive press is not a matter of not being able to afford it. And it's certainly not, not being able to set it up or understanding how it works, a mod of turnip. It's just a personal preference thing. I just don't like, I don't like progressive presses. I've played with my dad's a bunch and helped him set his up. I just don't care for them.

I, I, I like using single stages. I like doing it slow and methodical. It's a preference. But I'm also in the situation where, like, I am looking for tools to help speed up and semi-autimate, really the brass prep. It's not the loading that's hurting. It's like before we started this,

Stuart, I'm going to have to put you on word rations if you keep being such an ornery old fart. I mean, if your dad really needs to get rid of that, those nice Dylan presses. I know of a home that they could go to. Well, first of all, who do you think is going to inherit the damn things? It's not like I'm not going to get it eventually. Like, let's all be honest with each other. And by the way, I'm not saying anything I don't say to my dad when he asked my opinion about, hey, what do you think about this gun? Like, oh, yeah, I'd really like to have one of those one day. You go ahead and spend your money on that.

He's spending my inheritance anyway. I might as well get stuff I like. Right. And nothing wrong with it. No. But like I said, it's just one of of those things where it's like I just I don't care for I don't care for progressive presses I I don't most I might want to get in the future might be like a Dylan 550 that manually indexes but I don't think they make the 550 anymore no there's enough of them floating around out there I think it I think there's a new model number for it they changed up the castings quite a bit point is the castings are closer to the this to the automated one now gotcha but like said I just I personally I need some ways to speed up and to kind of automate the brass prep,

which is the most onerous part of all this. I don't mind the loading process, though. Yeah. You know, brass prep, especially when you're shooting a lot of rifle cartridges, it can take a while, especially if it's like for 5, 5, 5,6 plinking ammo, which you can go through a ton of. Okay.

Before we get to topic, because we've been derailed for 15 minutes now, Raggle said that Raggle is reminding me that he tried to turn me onto a screaming deal on some IMR 4064 and I turned it down recently. I have too much of it already. But, but context matters. Okay. This is an already open jug.

That's fine. That has more than eight pounds in it. Supposedly, the owner of it passed away. Mm-hmm. And the store he bought all his components from, I'm guessing, got custody. of, you know, the reloading power, however it has tends to be the case. Because where else do you go? Yeah, where else do you go with it?

And this eight-pound jug of IMR 464 has several bottles of 464 that have been emptied into the eight-pound jug. Now, are we sure it's all 464? That's why I told Raggle I'm not interested for any price. Because here's my problem. The only person on earth that I would even consider trusting powder from under those in those variables is my dad. And only that because he has a vested interest in me not blowing my hands off.

Yeah. Or blow him eyeballs up or something. I mean, I have acquired a large amount of secondhand powder from people. And one of the things that I always tend to do when I get that stuff is I compare the flake of the powder what the powder looks like because powders look different. sometimes to the published images of those powders. I use actually a lot of open powder bottles. And so far I have been very fortunate. But one thing I always do is I always do a ladder test with that bottle of powder

starting at minimum charge or slightly below minimum charge. And optimally compare it to the same charge of known powder. Like if you're going to accept this IMR 4064, I would do everything you're doing, but I would also test it against a bottle I know. Exactly. Now, if you're then the ballpark of the same velocity, we're probably okay. And probably maybe the powder's a little damp from being mishandled. You know, it could be a lot of things. Maybe it's a different batch.

It's hard to say. I mean, I've got some I've got some bullseye powder in the old cardboard cans that they're open. They are bullseye powder, and I know that because the guy I got it from only owned bullseye powder. He was a pistol shooter and a pistol shooter only, and he only shot bullseye, and he only shot a certain version of bullseye. But like I said, that one I wasn't concerned about. But for all those reasons, first of all, I'm just really not in the, I am actively trying to save money for the rival that I really need to go. ahead and get in the safe. Mostly because even before I like get to the point of ladder loading for this stupid thing,

the first thing I need to do is frigging fire form all my brass. Like I am looking at this precision rifle that I want to build, not in terms of buy the rifle, put the cool stuff on it, take a picture for Instagram and then put it in the safe. This is an entire reloading program that I'm trying to put together, including doing things I've never done before. like I'm looking into building a DIY induction dealer. Like I'm going to be pushing my own personal skill set and equipment further than it has before, partly for my own personal amusement and enjoyment, but for that reason, like, I'm looking at it as I need the rifle.

I don't even care if I have a scope on the stupid thing. I just need the rifle as I can fire form the brass so that I can clean it and everything else so that I can induction and kneel it so that I can like measure the shoulder, bump the shoulder back, you know, like five or ten thousandths, whatever I decide I'm going to start at. Like I have to do all those things before I get to the point of building that first ladder load. You do.

That's already. There's some prep work you have to do. Yeah. Now, didn't do all this in the past put together a load in a 308 hate hunting rifle that'll spit out like just over a half inch group at 100 yards. but I want to see if I can do better. I want to see if I can get the SDs even lower. I want to see if I can push it even further.

And I think I can, but I'm going to have to like nudge along, just do things a little tighter than I did last time, a little being a lot. Well, a little bit here and there does add up to quite a lot. But I think that the improvement you are going to see is going to be very much worth your time if you want to chase active. see. Yeah.

And eventually it gets you into neck tensioning and neck turning. Maybe one day, but I figure it's starting with Peterson Brass. It's a good place to start. Their brass is good. It's a really good place to start. Okay, now that we have had been thoroughly derailed for 20 minutes, had audio issues, this is going to be a bastard to friggin' edit, by the way. My bad.

It's not your bad. It's my bad. I should have checked all the settings before we launched. No, no. I said it was going to go. go fine. I searched it. You did. You did. And then you did not recite the incantations to the

Omnisiah. It's true. It's all your fault, Nick. All your fault. I forgot the incense. It's, well, what are we going to do? Okay, so let's start with the topic. Hollywood rarely gets it right. And I'm talking about so rarely. Hollywood's portrayal

of like small unit weapons and tactics, mostly. I got three movies. Everyone here has probably seen them. We're almost certainly get to get booted off of YouTube and Facebook the minute we start showing these things because you can't do fair use commentary apparently. But I wanted to have the conversation about a couple movies that I saw and I, as I watched them for the first time, I thought to myself, I'm like, there's actually like good, there's good work here. Like there's takeaways. There's some stuff that like I don't know I'm all in favor of leaning on very little military experience and everything else. But there's a lot here that actually makes sense.

and you can tell that somebody hired a really good consultant for these movies. Yeah, I think they did. Okay, so let's lean into this. Now, I'm going to warn everybody now, and Nick, you can watch the comments to tell if we're blown everybody's ears off or not. I have no way of telling if this volume is way, way higher than us speaking or not. if it is then like type into the chat like turn down turn down turn it down if we get booted off of youtube and facebook you'll have to go to rumble to see us and your your comments on rumble will not backfeed into stream yard so if that happens then there will be no more commenting sorry yeah sorry about

that but in any case rumble is working on it yes rachel nick gets mad at things in movies I get extraordinarily aggravated about anything pertaining to weapons handling, military uniforms, equipment, all that. We were watching a TV show. I think it's called The Last Ship. And at one point in the scene, there's a man riding a snowmobile

with a man behind him and he fires a javelin, an AT4 over the shoulder of the guy driving the snowmobile. Yeah? No. First off, You're not hitting a helicopter from a moving snowmobile with an AT4.

I mean, Somalians do with RPG7s all the time. Somalians also shoot themselves with RPG7s all the time. And number two, you're going to kill the guy that's driving you. The pressure wave from that alone. I don't know if it would kill him, but he would not be your friend afterwards. Oh, my God. He's going to at least have a serious concussion because that blast wave that comes out of the front of there from the initial launch and then the rocket kickoff is it's notable it's

spicy yeah there there is a reason why we were taught that he all backblast area all clear before we cook one of those things off because if your buddy's behind you he's not going to be your buddy anymore oh have you seen the video the Somalia getting beheaded by the guy firing firing an RPG 7 yes when he's walking behind the RPG 7 it cooks off yeah took his head right off oh yeah oh yes Backblast is a thing. Backblast is a thing. Let's start with heat. Anybody that hasn't seen this before, there's lots and lots and lots to unpack here.

Yes, hon, I will be forcing you to watch this movie. You haven't seen it. You should force her to watch at least two of these. All three. We got the weekend. I want to block at Figaroa and Fifth, and I want to block. Back. Do you still have the videos, Phil?

No, as a matter of fact, I don't. And it did kick us off of YouTube immediately. Immediately. Oh, that's Meg. No, it says we're still streaming to YouTube on ours. On my end. I wonder if, I wonder if Andrew Sandy kicked us off because it kicked me off because... Oh, that could be.

Okay, let's try this one more time. And if this doesn't work, then we'll just talk about this because... We will discuss the scene. The annoying part is, I tested this just with me and it was working just fine. All right. So, man, it's been a long time since I've seen this movie. I cannot remember why he was leaving. Bank robbery.

Bank robbery, that's right. I'm going to knock the volume down a little bit so it doesn't, like, blow us out while we're talking. So, as you can see, all dear. All right, so two things. script clothing, number one. Yeah, non-script clothing. You send one guy out who secures the vehicle and then pull security, which he's goofing off. He's obviously not taking this super seriously, which is why you shouldn't have sent that one guy to go pull security.

Yeah, you usually want to send somebody that's actually going to do their job. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the police are coming into the area and they're immediately trying to cordon off the area. They're trying to establish a perimeter, which is exactly. the way you want to approach a situation like this where you have a target. You want all your assets to approach from different areas, and you want to secure a perimeter to try to limit traffic coming in. Optimally, you would like to get traffic in the area back out, but that doesn't seem to

be possible in all scenarios. No, definitely not. And I really want to harp on this again, especially if you are operating in a non-permissive environment, looking like the people that are supposed to be there is hugely beneficial. I mean, why do you think we had so many problems with the insurgents in the middle? I am so freaking aggravated. It's just very accepted. It's not. It's not the movie. Your internet can't take the heat?

No, honestly, I think it might be a system resources issue. Really? Which is weird because I did all this pre-streaming and it was fine. Huh. Interesting. We probably got to work on getting you those computer parts I have stashed here. Yeah. That probably needs. used to be something that happens by the end of the year.

I'll dig those. I'll dig those out. Box those up for you. Send them out. Hopefully this weekend. Okay. So I guess we're going to talk about heat. Have you seen, you've seen heat? Have we seen all three of these movies since I can't show them? Because apparently that just pisses off my internet. I have.

I have seen all three of them. Sicario's is the one that I have not watched all of. I've seen most of Sicario's. But I don't know which scene in particular. particular you were bringing up. Hmm. You know I just thought of? What's that? I wonder

if I can do this the old-fashioned way. Oh, probably can. Kick up your media player, share the screen. That would be less resource intensive. It doesn't, it seems to be an issue with the browser, not with the computer. So, and to be fair, I did

mention, I did mention that sharing these videos natively in here is a relatively new feature. It is. We are trying to do use the new stuff. Come on, computer. Boot this stupid thing up. Oh, dear. So like I was saying,

looking like you belong in the environment that you're working and operating in, especially like even as a person with like the concealed carry permit. Don't dress in a way that attracts extra attention to you that you cannot handle dealing with. You're not going to, okay, people do this, but going to the Brewers Stadium in a club's jersey while the clubs are not playing against the Brewers, great way to get extra negative attention. People still do it because Wrigley Field is horrible to deal with anymore.

and the Brewer Stadium is phenomenal, but it just attracts extra attention to yourself that people are then going to be scrutinizing you more. If you just show up in regular clothes, nobody's going to really pay attention to you. So you can get away with doing things. It's the old clipboard and a hard hat rule. If you're wearing a high vis vest,

carrying a clipboard with a hard hat, in most places, like most construction environments or industrial environments, everybody's just going to let you go. Okay, let's try this again. Do it. Oh, echo. Echo.

Echo. You're echoing? I can hear me coming through you. That's wild. It's still there. I think we got to kick. I think I can kick on your echo cancellation while you're dealing with this.

How about now? Oh, better? I turned the audio off on that share tab. Interesting. Yeah, that doesn't make a tremendous mad sense to me. But anyway, let's give this a whirl. I also turned on your echo cancellation. Turn the audio back on in the video.

All right, let's see if this does it. Can you hear it? Yeah. I'm still getting the echo, though. Okay, we're going to try this. Okay. Do you hear yourself echoing? Not right now.

Okay, so it's just when I have that up. Good to know. I will be quiet while that is up until we can figure out where the hell it's doing that. Yeah. But here's a couple of things that stick out to me that annoy me. First of all, why on earth are some of these characters wearing soft body armor if you're approaching guys who are known to carry rifles? Well, for one, in the time period, a lot of your normal, cops did not have hard armor.

Soft armor was not super common in this time period. But why are you wearing it if you're approaching guys with rifles? Because it's better than nothing. No, it's not. It makes you feel better. That's the answer. That's really all it is. It makes you feel better.

So what? They're going to grab the armor to have the armor because maybe it helps. Maybe you die. My other issue is you got Johnny B. Law officer just waltzing down the street, no frigging concealment, no cover, not trying to, frigging move between the buildings, not trying to move down alleyways, just hoping that these bank robbers don't notice

a bunch of cops with frigging, you know, shotguns and rifles standing on the street. Yeah, I mean, some of them, if I remember correctly, that bus moving scene, they're attempting to use the bus as cover to move up along with the bus. That's some Hollywood shit, because you can't, they did not, they did not initiate this maneuver, knowing the bus was just going to happen to be there at that time. No, but, hey, utilize your environment. If you have an opportunity like that to break line of sight, why not take it if it's there?

Okay, fair point. I'll start the movie again, but it annoys me. All right, let's take a pause right there. Mm-hmm. So notices the threat, immediately starts opening fire. The guys in the car begin to get the vehicle in motion and return fire while moving away in the vehicle as fast as possible. Now, the police, they did a bad job of covering movement to attempt to approach the vehicle without being noticed.

They just sort of wandered out there in the middle of the open. And so one of their guys gets blasted. Yeah. So the things that jump out to me are like when what you have here is, ambush and react into contact. When you are the subject of the ambush, your goals are to return fire to suppress your ambush and then to break contact and get off the X. Optimally, if we're not dealing with a vehicle like we are in the situation,

Val Kilmer's character would have been spraying bullets or everybody's head while running to get off the X and get out of the killbox. Although in this scenario, getting into the vehicles, you're more mobile, was probably the right decision. So the immediate impetus is spray bullets. You're not even trying to hit anybody. You're just trying to get everybody's heads down, get in the vehicle and get off the X.

Exactly, exactly. Fraggle makes a good point. Bank robbers, how well trained do you expect them to be for this type of situation? Not very. Not usually. Same with your local PD. Yeah, but in this case, per the movie,

you're dealing with a crew of very, very highly trained bank robbers operating a very high level with a very high level of weapons and tactics. So in this case, and if I recall correctly, like, oh, the police officers are also part of like a somewhat elite unit because they're chasing these bank robbers. So like you're dealing with. If I recall correctly, aren't they feds? I don't remember if they're feds or not off top of them. Some of them were feds and some of them were local beat cops. But what you're dealing with here is like, yeah, you have a lot of just uniform horns in squad cars.

but you also have two groups that are kind of like at the pinnacle of their individual training levels. At least theoretically. Theoretically. So like I said, that's what stands out to me. I still am not letting go of the soft body armor to confront rifle threats. That's freaking dumb. No, I get that. I get that.

And I think as we saw here, like lack of cover, lack of concealment, initiate that firefight prematurely. Mm-hmm. It did. They definitely could have probably gotten a better position. had more of their men in position, perhaps had vehicles in place to block that line of egress on the police side. Okay, let's throw this back up and let this rip a bit more. All right, knock that back down for a moment.

Excellent reload. Drop behind cover. Get a lot of material between you and the opposing fire. Get the reload. Lock it in, rack it, get back up and engage. So that whole little chunk right there is like Chef's Kiss because fire and maneuver 101. And communicate. Val Kilmer's characters communicate with everybody else announcing that, you know, he's telling them,

I am holding the street, you move, they're executing bounding maneuvers, even the change of direction to like come to high port and then come down over your left shoulder. Somebody's going to look at that and say that seems kind of like Hollywood, you know, cool guy's stuff. but there's actually some really good reason for it. In an environment this chaotic where you have multiple friends and you're not entirely sure where those friends might be at any given time, just sweeping your weapon around means potentially flagging your buddy. And going to low ready is not an option because you're staying on concrete.

Bulls tend to go in weird places when they shoot them into concrete. So like high port and a quick direction change is like the safest maneuver to make in that area. Not a bad call. To make a 180 turn with your weapon. Like, it's well done. And yes, the reload is just textbook. Chris. Drop to one knee.

Get the entire vehicle, including the engine block between you and the threat, stab the new magazine in, smack the lollipop, go back to work. And even when he's shooting, I mean, yes, technically, a mid-90s Honda Civic from like the hood up is not exactly cover. concealment at best. It's concealment at best. Not so much through the windows. It's concealment at best, but also that that wind show being on angle, bolts tend to rickshay off of it. They do. Well, not ricochet off. They tend to deflect.

Deflect. Yeah, they tend to deflect. And it's not so much that it just alters the trajectory of the bullet. If you have glass that's, if I recall correctly, sloped like, sloped like this, it'll come in from this side and deflect down. contrary to what you would normally think. Because there's more material it's impacting here, so it's going to pull the bullet down. Yeah. But I'll give the fact that they're attempting to use their environment.

They're attempting to return fire. Again, they're executing a bounty maneuver, trying to maneuver towards a direction to get off the X. The whole goal here is that you've been jumped into this firefight. Your goal is to move. If you stop, if you get pinned down, if you get cornered, you're done. And the minute the vehicle gets disabled, their whole goal is get off the X. Yep.

Like, you know, there is no- As much room as you can get. There is no conserving ammo. There is no, none of that matters. Get off the X as fast as possible. Especially in a situation like this where they're so outnumbered, because if they stay there long enough for these guys to call on their buddies, you're going to get put down eventually.

Yep. As is what tended to happen. A shitload of chicken winging from these guys. though. It was the 90s. All right, so not to belabor that any further. So, got to say, though, for the civilians here,

they're less than a, at this point at the supermarket, less than two, what, two blocks away from where this gunfight started, where there's been hundreds, if not thousands of rounds fired in the last two, three minutes? All the self-preservation instincts.

You're not still fucking doing your shopping? Jesus Christ! All the self-have, all the self- preservation instincts of a herd of chickens in a thunderstorm. Oh, God. It just, it drives me nuts. Do you know why I look down on chickens so much? Why?

Because they are the only bird stupid enough that you have to bring them inside. Otherwise, they will stare up at the sky in rain until they drown. That's a myth. They don't do that. Well, they are freaking dumb birds. Chickens are dumb, but they don't do that. Okay. A lot of times chickens die in thunderstorms because they're in mass struck by lightning being in trees.

I think most people are that stupid though. I think we should test the theory. I don't know, man. What? By firing several thousand rounds in a crowded city street and seeing if people stop shopping? I mean. If in Chicago, nobody's going to notice because that's just Tuesday. But, damn, Nick.

There was a shooting not that long ago in Chicago where it was like five or six. six people involved and each one of them fired a full magazine, if not a drum magazine out of their Glock's or switches. Nice. And stuff was still, people were just going about their stuff. You can see in the video car still driving through the street in the middle of the shootout must not be that different than normal. Anyway, so as we close out, Heed, we're going to move into Sicario.

The thing that caught me was. Val Kimmer's character takes around. Mm-hmm. I can't say this is like, oh, he screwed up this and the other, but like it does illustrate the point of in a dynamic firefight like this, you have to maintain situational awareness at all times because what happened was is he let someone get into his backside. And he was well within their envelope of fire

and didn't realize it until he got around snapped off. Now, points to Robert De Niro's character for grabbing your buddy, and getting him off the X while covering with fire. Very important, though, because it's a balancing act at that point of I have to move. My buddy has to move, but I have to return fire every now and then, because if I stop doing that, then we have different problems. But if I stop moving, now we have that problem. So it is a balancing act between those two competing interests. Yep.

But all in all, like, I think he illustrates a lot of good sound, small use. small unit tactics. Mm-hmm. And illustrates a lot of this in an urban environment, which... Just the chaos. Oh, yeah, pure chaos. But, I mean, really until, like, G-wide, even the military didn't have a good metric for, like, how to do something like this.

Yeah. I mean, we fought most of our fights in jungles or in deserts or, like, very, very rarely where we, except for, like, Mogadishu. Yeah. That was... The 90s. Yeah, it was. Mid-90s.

Fragal brings up a good point. The Gleel. Yeah. Choice. Okay. So moving on to Sicario. This is the border scene, by the way. Oh, okay.

Yes. I've actually seen this part of Sicario. Actually, it's also part leading up to the border scene, which I'm going to rip a little bit of that before we get to the border scene proper. Because I sure think, because it, it, it, harkens back to my experience with combat convoy tactics. So you got to give it to me. Yeah.

All right. One thing that you notice in here, all of the vehicles are the same. Yes. Part of the reason for that is a tactical choice is so it is difficult for your adversary to differentiate between the star at the middle, the end of your convoy and any specific vehicle that may have, say, a VIP, certain, supplies, whatever it is. You try to make it all look the same. Try not to have distinctive cargo on various vehicles. You can't always eliminate that. Or distinct

markings. Right, or distinctive markings. Because those will tend to be the things people target. Anything that differentiates it. I mean, hunters in Hunter's Ed talk about pick like the burr on the side of the deer, pick the weird cowlick on the side of the deer as your site. point, something that your eyes can lock on to. Aim small, miss small. Mm-hmm. Very similar to that. And the thing that catches me is like, I totally agree with Benicio Del Toro's character in this.

Like, the greatest likelihood of an attack on a convoy is always going to happen when you're stopped. Now, there's not necessarily a good incentive to try to attack while they're picking up their cargo. Because if an attack initiates, then the cargo just retreats back. into the building and they're secure. So you really don't want to try to hit him on the move because speed is life. Like in a convoy, that was the thing that was beating us over and over and over was like you are not stopping to engage a target. You are not stopping for any reason or then your vehicle has broken down or one of your

buddies has broken down and you have to recover his vehicle or his crew. You are not stopping. You are not slowing down. If you get under contact, three things happen. You match the gas pedal, you shoot back, and you maneuver. You don't stop. So I agree with everything that's been laid out so far. The greatest likelihood is that they're not going to try to hit you while you're moving.

They're certainly not going to try to hit you in the city unless they can box you in and bring you to a halt. But even then when you're dealing with this number of large SUVs, especially with a police escort, the likelihood that you're going to be able to, like, stop box these guys in, slow them down, is fairly, minimal. So I agree that like... It would require a very large heavy vehicle or number of vehicles. For sure. It would, well, in this case, because of the number of vehicles, and to your point, you can't tell

which one has the cargo, it would require a number of heavy vehicles because you have to lock down the main street and all the egress points. Like, it's not enough just to block the street because they could just, you know, hook a ride, go down another street. Like, you would have to

strategically divert the convoy in a direction you want it to go into an area where you can lock them down. And that's tricky. It is. It is. Especially in a metropolitan environment or even a somewhat developed environment because there's roads every block.

That's a lot of roads you have to block off. Yeah. All right. Now I'm going to rip a little bit more of this and we're going to get to a certain point right before the action cooks off and I'm going to stop it for some comments. Okay. All right.

We'll drop this down and talk while I cue it up to the point. I want to be at... So, speaking of blocking off the movement of the convoy, this is one of those things that sometimes can happen unintentionally. You get a traffic jam

or whatever. They had a helicopter flying cover for them. They should have known about this prior to them leaving their pickup point. And arguably, they should have probably rescheduled or done something. Like,

Yeah. To let the convoy cruise into this, because this is. Dvert into the oncoming lane, have that lane blocked off by local PD, something. But this scenario right here is full pucker for a convoy. You are stopped. You are surrounded by other vehicles. You're surrounded by other people. You are still in no man's land.

You have no hostels that have been observing you. But mostly you're stopped. Because as long as the convoy's moving, the convoy is safe. It's like in an ambush, your goal is to move. In a convoy, your goal is to move. You don't want to stop. I can tell you that on a convoy from personal experience, the only time I was even remotely like frightened on that convoy was when we had to stop and recover another vehicle that broke down. My butthole was so tight. If I had a farted, only dogs would have heard it. You could have crammed coal at my behind, diamonds would have popped out my ears. Like it was

I mean, it gives the enemy time to react, number one. But the problem isn't even just enemy having time to react. It's the fact that, like, you are, you still have to maintain security around your chalk. You still have to maintain security of your people. You still have to maintain eyes on the situation. And you're not just watching for a concerted enemy. You're also watching for enemies of opportunity. The guy who just says, there's law enforcement.

There's, you know, there's soldiers, there's whatever. I don't like those guys. I'm going to take a shot at them. Random sniper from a random window. A situation that may not have come up if we hadn't been stopped. But every minute you're sitting there, the blood runs out of your frigging chest into your feet. Your frigging adrenaline goes to 100.

And you just, all you can do is just sit there and chew on your molars, waiting to get back in the truck and move. So, Stewart saying YouTube stream went down, came back. not shocked internet stuff well no that that wasn't us that was YouTube mm-hmm so you know

I didn't see it go down on our end though those check boxes just means of the stream connected oh I don't think we'll actually get a status if the if the stream shuts down although usually we do on YouTube it usually unchecked when we're down

I wonder if that's only for a technical difficulty and not because we pissed off the we pissed off the machines worry not about the tech overlords. Yeah. Anyway, so like I said,

at the point that we're going to cue this back up, the convoy is stopped, everyone's adrenaline has gone to 100, and you are just waiting and watching. Yep.

All right, so... A couple of things. A couple of things. Guys ready in their weapons, getting their stocks out, getting into, positioned to fire, rolling down windows to get that shit out of the way, unlocking their doors.

If they had their seatbelt on, they no longer have their seatbelt on. They're getting ready to move. Yeah, so a couple of things. First of all, I hope none of you are ever in this kind of a weird situation, but just in case you are, I don't know that I encourage a person to have their seatbelt on in any kind of situation where you're expecting an ambush. I mean, like, once you come down south from like 45 miles an hour, like once you're at street speeds, like 20, 25 miles an hour, seatbelt off. And when you're at a stop, seatbelt off, period, end discussion. I'm not talking about this is not legal advice. I'm talking about this is don't die advice. Yeah, this is, you're far less likely to die in a 25, 30 mile an hour car accident than in a ambush. Yeah, this is, this is, I had a really weird childhood.

And these are things I learned along the way. But yes, doors stay unlocked, windows stay down. I don't care. Look, it is 95 degrees and 200% humidity outside of southeast Louisiana in the summer. The windows go down when you come to a stop if you're, if you're anticipating there might be an ambush. Why do you think that is, Nick? Well, for one, you've got the issue of the additional noise having the windows rolled up will cause from the weapon discharge. Number one, that's a lesser problem, but go ahead.

Number two, being able to maneuver your firearm to engage the targets around you through the windows. Gillian just told me that our stream got nuked for copyright. Eh, whatever. I mean, but I told everybody ahead of time, we're on Rumble, and I don't think Rumble is taking us down. So, you know. Whatever. It is what it is. I don't care.

So, being able to maneuver, getting your weapon out, out the door, and whatnot, giving yourself more room to maneuver with a large weapon, and not having the glass mess with your shooting. Also, two things. What do you think happens when you fire a

small diameter, high velocity round into a piece of automotive glass at close range? Goes everywhere. It goes everywhere. Especially the side windows. At you, at your buddy, at everybody. And that's never a fun situation for you to be showering your

buddy in Spall, so don't do that. Yeah. And you definitely don't want to be throwing glass in everybody's eyes. Yeah. And second of all, yes, for those of you who are still hanging around, the stream seems to be okay on Facebook. It is

up and down on YouTube because we've pissed off, we've pissed off meta and the powers that be apparently. Their AI copyright detection has gotten really, really good, by the way. Or is it really, really shit?

because this is clearly fair use commentary. Yeah, but that doesn't matter. Anyway. Legally it does. We can't be sued for this. Yeah, well, I don't have the money to sue YouTube, so they can get away with it. I'm not worried about us being sued than us suing YouTube. Oh, kiss my ass.

You go ahead and try to get blood out of this turnip. Exactly. But anyway, all that to say that, like, the other reason you want the window down is A, so you don't spray your buddy and spall. and be because it's already difficult to maneuver a long gun inside of a vehicle. It's a lot harder if the windows are up. So, optimally, you would kick the door open and get out, but if you have to shoot through the windows, it helps stab them down. It does.

So all of those things. But we are already kidded up, wearing our armor and everything. We are engaging weapons. We are doing a very, very exemplary job. of spotting for targets, spotting for hostels. In this case, due with the full facial tattoo is kind of a giveaway, due with the gun. But I would also say that, like, if you're in a situation like this

and someone is paying you way more attention than a casual glance, that's probably a person you should keep an eye on it, because they're looking at you for a reason. And then, I mean, if you're just objectively physically attractive, that could be the reason. But if someone's staring to me that hard, I assume there's something going on. Yeah.

Yeah. That or, you know, you're the car full of guys in plate carriers with guns. Folks might also be staring at you because that's not shit they always see. I mean, this is possible. I mean, realistically, like, if you've got, you know, random office guy that just bumming around, and he looks over and he sees a SUV full of dudes in body armor with rifles, he's probably going to look at that car a lot longer than he should. There's a difference in the facial expression. Four fighting age males in a car with angry looks on their faces,

giving you the business visually. Keeping pace with your car deliberately. That's what we call a hint. All right, let's kick this back on. Let's kick this back on. YouTube's probably going to pun us off again. And if it does, like, you can go to Rumble or Facebook or you can just stick around until we come back.

It's up to y'all. I mean, you're not being detained. not your dad. I'm out here to tell you what to do. So first and foremost, all the self-preservation instincts of a sack of freaking hammers. Yeah. Literally, turnips

have better self-preservation. The only person that might stay in a vehicle in the situation, the only person that might, depending on the situation, is the driver, and that's it. Everyone else gets out of the vehicle, everyone else's weapons

to the ready. Everyone else is scanning for threats. Everyone else gets out of the vehicle except for the driver. And that's maybe the driver. The driver might want to get out too. HVTs. High value targets. I value individuals and their

car full of people. Yes. But usually they would stay in the vehicle. But that's, yeah. But in this case, he told her get you butt out of the vehicle and instead she sat there like a tourist. And then instead of scanning for her targets, she's staring at the people who are doing the thing they're supposed to do.

Anyway, all that... Almost gets her head blown for that. Almost gets her head blown off. Anyway, all that being said, we confront the threat. We have Terps who are speaking native language. That's helpful if you're in a non-English speaking air. Aggressively confront the threat with overwhelming force. But here's the thing I want to point out.

White dude that looked like an accountant, which by the way is based on a real S. S.F. guy who also looks like an accountant that if you ever meet him and realized... He has smoked a lot of people. He has smoked a lot of people. But in any case, he doesn't speak Spanish, obviously. But he looked dead at that carful guys and just shook his head. No, that is universal language for do not do whatever it is you're thinking about doing.

There are certain, like, everything about your, if you're in the situation, you're confronting a threat. Everything in your body language, everything in your, you're to the tone of your voice, even if you're not speaking, even if you're not speaking, even if you're not speaking. even if you're not speaking English, even if you're not speaking the native language, everything you're doing projects aggression. Everything projects if you don't quit fooling with me, something bad is going to happen. And, you know, usually when you point guns of people,

they kind of understand that their next movement shouldn't be an aggressive one. And if the people you are pointing guns that are doing anything other than backing down immediately, they're probably serious about instigating a kind of. confrontation. Probably. But the other thing I want to point out was that the gun handling here. It's perfect. Phenomenal. No one. On behalf of, on behalf of the good guys, no one is spraying and praying. I'm seeing either very short bursts of automatic fire or even semi-automatic fire. And I want to point something out. Did you notice that at no point where we just raking across the windshield with fire? They're literally aiming at people inside the vehicle.

Individuals picked out. As if they were shooting at people outside of a vehicle, that kind of quick, decisive, directed fire is textbook. That's perfect. And even I cut off as soon as this was done, once they eliminated the threat, traffic started moving, they get back in the vehicle, they get off the X again. Yep.

They get in, they get going, they're done. Yeah. Textbook, I really don't have a lot to go. gripe about with this scene from Sicario. Like it really, this is, this is how you conduct a combat convoy operation, kind of from start to finish.

My gripe is their their intel was terrible. Yes. Their cover, their air cover was atrocious. They clearly had radios and were talking on them. They should have known before they ever got up to that traffic jam,

and they should have re-routed. I don't disagree with any of that. But I will say that in many cases in theater, it's not always possible. It's usually not possible. And especially if you're dealing with like you're driving through a heavily populated area or in this case you're driving through a checkpoint. Traffic is almost always going to slow down, if not grind, to a halt. So it's one of those situations where like, I don't remember who was providing the air cover wreck.

I don't think it was ever clearly stated. I mean, bear in mind that this is like this operation was being conducted like joint between the Mexican Federals and some unnamed U.S. forces that had one... I thought it was like DEA. I don't remember if it was DEA.

I do remember that... DEA was some CIA operator that's who the nerdy guys were. Okay, the majority were CIA, but I don't think they ever specifically stated they were CIA. It's just kind of alluded to you. Well, in a lot of movies

where the CIA is involved, they never state that they're CIA. Everybody knows that's who they're portraying. Spooks. Yeah, exactly. And one FBI agent as a ride-along to make the whole thing legitimate legal. So, you know, it's just one

of those situations where, like, I agree with you, but at the same time, that's a pretty realistic situation that you would be in the process of combing somebody and suddenly encounter a stop, a reason to stop. Yeah. and then have to pull security around the vehicle.

But in the after-action report, that would be a major bitching point. Oh, me and that helicopter pilot would be having some terse words. Mm-hmm. Definitely. Okay. Last but not least, Den of Thieves. Have you seen this? Yes.

Long time ago. Probably 15, 20 years ago. So I have some, this one's kind of up and down for me because some parts of it are very, very Hollywood. but some parts of it are actually like pretty okay well to be fair some parts of heat are very hollywood namely the nearly endless magazines i mean they're all clearly running 30 round magazines and i think when i did the autistic bullet count last time i watched heat it was like 95 rounds before a mag change yeah that that goes back to that whole we're not artistic we're the other artistic.

Yeah. Anyway, Dennythes. Like, semi-auto, I know about how long it takes me to dump a magazine. And if I was dumping a magazine

in aggression, it would probably be a modest bastard. I would have had to go through a lot more than they were. Okay. Den of Thieves, I'm going to start this, but I am going to, like,

kind of bump it along because I'm trying to get to a point. And that point is what I want to, like, watch all the way through. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Let's break it off right there.

Do a little bit of commentary before all hell breaks lose. Good things. Excellent squad communication. Being very clear who's going where and doing what while you can. Very good. Odds of Denna Thieves, it was it bank robbers? Yeah, the guys in the black SUV with the saw, that's very, very Hollywood, are bank robbers. Saw. Okay. Like, Phil, you actually probably have operated a saw. I know a couple of guys that have operated a saw.

I was a saw gunner for a hot minute. How often did you get through a full belt? That depends, Nick. How long do I have to get through the full belt? That's exactly. Why would you use a saw? I mean, yes, if the military hands you a gun says, this is your gun, soldier. Congrats. This is your gun. Go forth and deal with the problem. child. Why would you, if you're going to go do a bank robbery and illegally acquire a fully automatic

weapon, why would you acquire the weapon that is known to A, run away for no fucking reason, and B, stop for absolutely no reason all the time. So, I will just say this in the defense of the M249

and the FM mini-me. When you baby the sons of bitches, they can be reasonably reasonable. Like you you, okay, so like you're not going to rip a full belt

no, but hear me out. Like an M2, you get the headspace and timing roughly right. You like spit in the friggin chamber. If you get the ammunition that's only got a little bit of rust on it and if it seats it yeats, that old girl don't care. You treat it

like a biker bitch and it just runs. The tolerances are built to 1940s bulk of manufacturing technology. And you know what? It's a huge round. It's going to throw that bolt back. The saw, on the other hand,

has to be very precisely maintain all the springs have to be just right. It needs. Just the proper amount of lube, not too little, not too much. And then you have to recite the incantations over it, say a prayer to the Omnum Messiah. And, you know, do various gyrations with it, to keep it happy.

And if you do all that just right. If you do all that just right, it'll run a couple of boxes, a couple of belts through it without breaking a sweat. Or it'll just run through the full belt and never stop. Ride the lightning, but ride the lightning. Hold her down and hope for the best. Like I said, I, personal experience, okay, I've been on the receiving end of a saw that hated me, hated shooting, hated stopping, and pretty much just hated everything.

And I've also been on the receiving end of that same saw after it got into the hands of a company armor that really knew what he was doing and he he I don't know what witchcraft he friggined into the damn thing but it ran beautifully after that but it takes a person who's willing to do the maintenance and in the defense of this movie these three guys are not just former military these are former marine special forces so perhaps perhaps the man knows how to keep the weapon up you know it's not to maintain it correctly I just think that is of all the choices one could make. That was clearly a choice. Yeah, that was a choice. But anyway, so, I mean, hell, grab an RPK. That thing will run mags. It'll run belts. It doesn't care. So what I like is that these guys were trying to be somewhat low key. They didn't have their body armor on at first. They didn't have guns hanging out the windows. The police officers are coming into a situation that they know is hot. They're communicating well. And I like the fact that they are, I mean, I don't know if you caught it. Some people maybe didn't, but like one of the things that they did was they took one group of guys and said,

you get over there and don't come in. They're setting up for a pincor maneuver. They're trying to spread their forces out, which has its pluses and minuses because now you don't have as much firepower on the X, but you do have the ability to set up crossfires and things you can't do of all your guys are grouped together. Like, I see good effective use of cover. I also see arguably a situation where the cops are. were dealt like the worst possible hand because they have this long corridor they have to come down

to get to these guys it probably in hindsight may have been a better solution to dispatch units in front of them and try to catch them like try to let them maneuver into an ambush oh absolutely i mean there's there's nothing worse tactfully than trying to move through a relatively open environment because yes you can duck behind those cars but to move you have to move into the same zone every single time. Yeah, Raggle, to answer your question, I believe these were Marine Raiders. I believe so, yeah.

I don't know the movie correctly. Google it, but I'm pretty sure they were raiders. Either way, guys that know business. Yeah, guys that know business, guys that obviously have a firm grip on tactics, only three guys to try to fight off what's about to come their way, by the way. But everything being done up to this point,

makes a certain amount of sense to me. It does. So let's get her going. All right, we'll stop right there. You got a fire element. You got a maneuver element. Good. So what I like about this,

and I'm kind of bouncing through to see, like if we're going to throw this up again, because really I've shown the parts that I wanted to comment on, unless you just want me to run through the rest of this. No, I think you're good. I mean, it's a lot of the, it's a lot of the same. You've got guys communicating cover and movement.

Again, fantastic. You've got guys sending a maneuver element out and around to try and get a different base of fire on their adversary. Fantastic. Probably a good call after the saw is out to just leave it and bail, because that's a lot of weight to carry. Yeah. The thing that I like, the thing that I don't think,

gets demonstrated near enough. The exact opposite of what was being done in heat where we were doing bounding forward, this is bounding backwards. And it's being demonstrated really, really well in the fact that, like, you have guys who are behind cover concealment, ostensibly they're reloading or they're shooting semi-auter, they're conserving ammo. And once you are the foremost element, once your buddy runs by you and says moving, which, again, I love the community.

I love the fact that we're communicating to each other about our intentions. But the minute you see your buddy run past you, you step into the lane, you switch to full auto or rapid fire, get everybody's heads down, you cover your buddy who is egressing because he's now moving to cover concealment. And the minute you run out of ammo or the minute he gets set, you're going to communicate back to each other and you are going to bound backwards. So this is the reverse of forward bounding. It's collapsing back. It's collapsing back. It's maintaining a field of fire. It's covering your buddy and it's reloading from cover concealment.

All perfect. Yeah, collapsing back to a more defensible location or just leaving the situation as best you can. Yeah. Now, the police officers are also, even though they've been dealt with an awful hand, they are doing their absolutely best to mitigate a really bad situation by continuing to apply forward pressure and dispatching more officers off the X to try to figure. loop in behind these guys. All excellent use of tactics, all well in the realm of

like a realistic response to this type of threat. One thing I loved, some of the civilians clearly noticed got the hell out of their cars and bailed well before the shooting started. Excellent situational awareness. Fantastic, good job.

Yeah. Now, if I have one bit of criticism, it was when that saw opened up at windshield height. Why? Why? Why? You're not hitting no one. After the first rounds ring out, all of your, all of your assailants drop to their, drop to behind engine block height. You're firing over their heads or you're firing an engine blocks that are going to stop those five, five, six rounds. I think a more efficient use of that arm, honestly, would have been, even though it would have been some weight to contend with, would have been to use that in the bounding backwards exercise. Yeah, definitely. Because now you have two people who can, let's just call it what it is. If I recall correctly, a saw is like 23 to 25 pounds with a full box underneath it. I mean, it's not a lightweight thing.

You're not going to run as fast as your buddy with a 9-mill PCC and a 5,56 carbine. But you've got two of them to cover your butt while you get into position. And then once you're in position, you can lay down a hell of a field of fire and let your buddies ex fill the area. So I think a better, I think there was a better way to use the saw. I think there were better weapon systems to use in the saw in that situation, me personally. Yeah. I mean, if you're going to do illegal shit, and I think part of the deal was they stole that saw from lockup, from the weapons lockup or whatever, I think they got most of their weapons from there and their equipment from there, wasn't it?

I don't recall, honestly. I want to say, I want to say I remember them. stealing most of that equipment. In which case, sure, take the saw because if you're going to take something, you might as well take the full auto stuff, I guess. But, you know, I've often wondered looking at that scene, would you not have been better served to take that saw prone out and rake the ground level? Because the guys are going to cover. The guys are going to go to cover. You're still shooting at a height where they will be. Maybe, maybe not. I mean, they takes you longer to get up and get out of there?

I mean, it's tradeoffs at that point, though, because, like, there's three of you, there's at least a dozen of the police officers and more coming. And you can only assume that, like, every minute you sit there fighting this fight, you're still losing because there's more cops coming. So I get dumped the belt, keep their heads down while your buddies get out of the car, and get started moving, and then you, you leave it in bail maybe. Perhaps that's the thought process that the writers were going for was he's dumping, covering fire while his buddies get out of the vehicle. But he quite leisurely got out of the vehicle and set that position up. Yeah.

So like I said, the whole part about the saw kind of makes me rural minds. But the biggest reason I dropped this in is just the efficient use of communication on behalf of the police officers and the diversifying of your fields of fire and your people. and on behalf of the bank robbers, that collapsing bounding. That is, it's so textbook and so well handled, even right after I cut it where one of the bank robbers get shot. He literally gets shot because his buddy stopped turning fire while he's running. I don't think, I don't know that, I don't think that's planned. I don't know if I give Hollywood that much credit, but like the point. No, but it well edited if that was not.

intention if that was intentional yeah but from my perspective like i think that i think that i think that gives a lot i think that that well illustrates something that i don't see illustrated very well in a lot of hollywood movies and that's kind of why i wanted to do this episode in the first place because hollywood rarely gets this kind of stuff right you get a lot of you get a lot of rambo you get a lot of arnold schwarzenegger you get a lot of you know people you get a lot of peaked special forces guys doing special forces things. As much as I like the John Wick series,

just one guy is going to lose. Yeah, I'll tell you what, you know what we should have put in here? And I totally didn't. It was a Mr. Nobody? I don't know that one.

Oh, I will see. I might be screwing up the title. I will have to, yeah. I'll send it to you. So that one, you're dealing. with a CIA guy. But he's like, you know, he's left the agency and he's trying to be a middle-aged, middle-aged husband and have a family and he's left the life behind.

And then some things happen. And he has to revive his old ways. Yeah. And the reason I like that is because all the combat scenes in that, this dude gets legitimately jacked up. Like, he gets hurt. He gets stabbed. He gets his nose broken.

Like, if you fight five guys, I don't give a. shit if you're Bruce Lee, you're going to get hurt. Yeah, you absolutely are. I mean, in a lot of that, too, in a lot of the movies, you see these guys, none of them are wearing earpro. Most of them aren't wearing eye pro. You're going to get your bell wrong just with all the concussion. Stewart, just nobody. I will look that up, and I will try to watch it.

I haven't seen the second one. The first one is awesome, especially because I cannot remember the main actor's name, but you'll recognize. him, but it has Christopher Lloyd in it. And I'm trying to think of the guys, the other actor. I'm drawing blanks because I wasn't prepared to talk about the show. And honestly, I should have included in this lineup. It would have been a perfect edition. But you should watch it.

You'll enjoy it. Oh, I have seen the cover art. I have not watched this movie. You should watch the whole thing. I should watch the whole thing. Chef's Kiss. Definitely worth watching. Um, so here's the thing.

I appreciate when Hollywood does get it right because they don't get it right very often. I appreciate it when things that like I can recognize from training situations and I can recognize from deployments are actually being accurately portrayed by people who are obviously taught how to portray them correctly. Reasonably acceptable gun handling, I will always applaud because you got my hobby right. Good job. Yeah. Well, and I mean, you know, like Bob Odenkirk. That's the guy's name. I love our... I have absolutely not seen this. I'm watching this movie.

You should, 10 out of 10. But like I said, to me, it is... Oh, poor Rachel. Sorry? Not sorry? It's really good. It's really good. That's what matters.

Yeah. And she likes the guy. She likes it Bobblogger. I mean, honestly, she'll probably be able to imagine you in a similar situation. I mean, I'm not... in the CIA.

No, but if someone came after your family, you would do some hood rat things. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I mean, I grew up kind of a boonies kid. That's like the whole second half of the movie is they mess with his family and hood rat things happen. I don't want to spoil it for you though. Congratulations.

You've made a catastrophic error. Yeah, you missed. You're bad. Yeah, so that's the thing, you know, if you're going to take a shot, somebody you better hit. If you are going to come for the king, you better not miss. Yeah, I mean, there's, and you know the funny thing about that is that the, especially nowadays, with the number of extremely well-trained in combat experience,

GWAT vets, guys that went and did Merckwork after that, a bunch of the people that are, that are getting into the gun handling and training stuff, really high end. You know, half of the guys that I go, to these shooting classes with they look like Joe office worker and they handle a gun like John Wick.

And a lot of them are better than me. And I feel like you and I have discussed, you and I are not average shooters, probably. We're probably slightly above average. And we just see the general population that is not up to our standard. And then we get into these classes with guys and there's a 13 year old, 12 year old girl

blowing away our part-times and smoking 45-year-old dudes that have been shooting all their lives. And then there are guys that make her look terrible. Yeah. And then there's, like you said, the 45-year-old office worker that 20 years ago did hood rat things

in a foreign country with a flag on the shoulder. My gun dealer was Marine Force recon. He, I would not want to mess with that dude, on purpose or by accident. No, no. He makes me look. like a child on the range. There are definitely some people running around

in real life that should have a warning label tattooed on their forehead. Oh yeah. Please do not screw with. And I'm not even talking about the guys like with PTSD that are on a pressure switch that are just waiting for somebody

to give them an excuse. I'm talking about the normal guy that you just decided to kick in his front door and the first thing he thinks is threat. Yep. I'm not scared threat.

I'm not referencing the guys who like fly off the handle or lose control. I'm talking about the guys who can wield violence fully in control themselves because they made a conscious decision. The quickest way to eliminate this threat to me and my family is with violence. Game on. Those are usually the ones you need to be the most scared about because they are thinking clearly and acting purposefully. Yeah.

There are a not insignificant number of people out there that are phenomenally good at violence, and you wouldn't know by looking at them. No. But like I said, I thought this would make an interesting episode for those of you who struggle with YouTube. I kind of knew that was going to happen. I'm kind of shocked that Facebook didn't boot us off. Me.

But you know, these are those kinds of episodes, though, that like when we start putting up things that, like, we know or not our content and we're trying to use, them above board in a fair use way. We know it's not going to get taken that way and it's going to get taken down and it just kind of is what it is.

Fair enough. The recording will be up there. You can watch our audio issues in HD. Yeah. And, you know, if you stuck with us this bar and you want to watch this again on Rumble, like, I don't think the stream got taken down on Rumble. And if it did, quite frankly, we watched Heat and Sakari.

We watched the scene from Heat, from Sicario and from Den of Thieves. You should just go watch those three. movies and then play this commentary back and it will make more sense. They're great movies. They are. Good scenes. Very well executed. I thought so. But I don't know what we're going to talk about next week. I like to give the audience a heads up, but I haven't gotten that far yet.

Honestly, here's a little thing for the audience here that used to listen to Raising Values. Raising Values is going back behind the mic in two days. So good. Saturday evening. 7 o'clock? I want to say 7 o'clock. If you watch on this YouTube channel, now Gillian has said that she does want to kind of reformat the show a fair bit.

So like I don't think we're going to be doing any social media. I don't think we're going to be doing any, anything with the Facebook page or the Instagram for raising values. But 7 p.m. this Saturday. raising values will be back on YouTube and Rumble. And the first episode is just going to be me and Gilean, like, answering the question of where the hell she's been for 18, 19 months. Because it's, it's been like the last episode for Raising Values was December of 2024.

Yeah. It's been a hell of a year. It has been a hell of a year and a half for her. We are finally like, she's in a better place. We have gotten some things settled that we're taking her away from. the show and were things that were causing raising values to instead of be something fun and cathartic it was starting to become another task and that's hard that's when she decided to shelve it focus on herself focus on things that were more important now those things are coming back around

and we've got some things put to bed so she wants to revive the show and for anybody that watched it before i don't know it's not going to be the same show it's going to be the same show it's going to be the same people. It's me and her, but it is not going to be the same show. That's the best I can tell you at this point. It is going to be a lot of like, we're going to talk about some things that are going to have some people reeling, thinking themselves, wow, they didn't know all that was going on. We're going to talk about some things that would probably be hard to hear, but I'm hoping, I want my personal hope, and I'll let Gileon speak for herself in two days, but like my personal hope is that similar to that discussion I've had with people about like my experience with Gileon and postpartum and everything else. My hope is that other people out there who have a spouse dealing with the things she has dealt with will kind of like take this as I'm not alone. I'm not the only person that's ever dealt with this. I'm not even the first person who's ever dealt with this. And let these experiences we bring forth kind of like, you know, I guess encourage them that you can get through it. Oh, absolutely.

Yeah. I think it's a great thing to do. Well, I certainly think it's important because otherwise, Everybody just has to suffer and silence by themselves, and I hate that shit. Mm-hmm. There's no need for it. Anything else to chuck in here? We call this one.

I think we're good. All right. Matter of fact, it's going to go out the door. If you end up in trouble because you force your spouse to watch those three movies, I'm not responsible, and Nick is only responsible because he's going to force his wife to watch those. I absolutely am. Sorry, Rachel. Good night, everybody.

Good night.