The Prepper Broadcasting Network - OPERACHIN APPALACHIAN
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PBN Family, what is up? We are coming to you from the Jonesstead. I'm here with Dave Jones,
the NBC guy and the Bankster Breaker himself as we prepare for, I don't know, I called
it, what did I call it? The Appalachian Operation. I guess we could call it that. That sounds good.
Yeah these guys are in for a real treat tonight. It's only a 30% chance of rain.
I think that'll be the least of the problems. You know we were talking about
if you leave early it will be hotter. Yeah. But you really want to set up camp in the pitch dark.
Oh yeah. You know. Yeah. So Ben. Yeah. You've traveled this before. Yeah. I have. I've done
this route, the exact route. When was that? Uh. At your island. 2023? Yeah. Maybe summer 23.
Because we did the Gotham get out in. Get out in 24 in February 24, then Ration Ruin 25,
and this was really supposed to be a Ration Ruin kind of end cap event, but we're like,
hey, let's reset, come back about a month later, and we got some fun plans, I think.
Well, yeah, now you have bags.
Yeah, we got some bags, some LeMantango Surv. We've got the gray man kit, which is essentially two bags and
Two bags, but they work in tandem
So that that was guys going through them and going over them
You can see it's it's a kit designed for two people, but each bag isn't identical. Oh, you know what I mean?
Okay, so the one thing that we guy you'd have to put one up front and one on the back.
That would be something.
That would be something.
But it's a great kit though.
I mean, it's got it all.
It's got two of these.
Oh, nice.
Yeah.
Comes with two face masks, two goggles, a lot of stuff.
I mean, it really is a great kit for two people and it's it's like 395 bucks so you divide that
in half it's not it's pretty reasonable compared to a lot of competitively
priced bags so but we'll see we'll see what it's capable of tonight Ben and I
but now you guys are actually gonna just live out of the bags yeah I'm not
planning on doing anything you don't have anything else other than what's in
the back I'll tell you what I have okay, but we might not even need it. We'll see how much sweating we do. Okay, I
Brought three triple a batteries for my headlamp as backup. Okay, smart and four liquid IVs
in case I
Got a few of my pocket right here, too
Oh, you got up to I'm like there's one emergency thing
I need I got a whistle and I got a frickin if you liquid IVs like if I'm dying
I can blow whistle to someone saves me and I could drink liquid IV because we're not going that far into the woods
So this is I'm gonna actually track a GPS with some calories and our times and we'll debrief tomorrow a little bit
But it should
be about four miles on trail slash road, but mostly road, and then another eight miles
or so on Appalachian Trail pretty much that whole time or six of those eight. So I think,
honestly we can do whatever we want. We're going to go, of those 12 miles, go like six
or eight tonight. Yeah, that's it. Set up camp and then finish the few tomorrow morning, get here by like 9 a.m., 10 a.m. at the latest.
And then we'll be able to do some of that fun stuff tomorrow. So that's the plan. I
feel like we can knock, like if we were just going full speed, we can knock out pretty
quick. But we're going to stop, try some things. We don't have like set challenges per se.
But we should mess around with the bags
We try to do some stuff with the bags just the Lima tango. Do you have another bag?
No, you know I didn't bring the other bag. It was so bad. Oh, it was unfathomable
I
Mean I posted a thing on it
But I think I'll have to share it with you guys so I open this
I mean I posted a thing on it, but I think I'll have to share it with you guys So I open this first of all I open the box like it came in a box about the size of a bag bag
And I open the box up in the bag itself looks nice like I'm looking at the car
It looks like someone took a bag that's packed and shoved it in the box and the bag goes good the whole thing's plastic wrapped
Right now. I'm like oh, okay. Yeah, we've got some competition here
So then the other day I'm filming some stuff out of the gray man bag and doing like a mix of
products like theirs versus theirs you know and doing video of it and I go to
grab the bag like expecting a bag and I've lifted up and it's just the bag in
a plastic bag all the stuff is stuff is just in the box but the best
part though is there's wooden matches all over the wooden matches are
everywhere and I said this better not be the fire and it is outside of a ferro
rod that's in one of those 15 in one plastic I know
you've guys have seen them there like a plastic black container about like this
15 in one survival kit nothing in it works yeah the compass that don't work
yeah nothing nice that you will be cracker jack toys days guys you might
have heard I know somebody on air serve heard me tell this story, but it's so awesome
because it just is unbelievable but never buy one of these 15-in-1s because
the Bunker Day guys sent me one with their logo on it because I guess you just get them from China and put your logo
You know, this is a PBN survival kit, take it.
I put the knife in my pocket
It's like I take my one I always use out because they were like try this stuff out see what it's like So I take my knife. I put this one in my pocket. It's like I take my one I always use out because they were like try this stuff out see what it's like so I take my knife I put this one in my
pocket I go run at outside the gym which is like two and a half and two back
uphill and then uphill the other way but downhill you know you've been on like the
road like hilly road it's a tough run I get back I get home I like go to take
the knife out it's in pieces it's literally all
disassembled itself the knife blade is out the two pieces on the side are
separated it the whole thing fell apart it couldn't survive survival it couldn't
survive a five mile run on a road I mean I wasn't even running in the woods
I'm just hitting pavement for five miles I said okay I don't even need to test the rest of this kit. If the knife
don't hold up I'm screwed. There's nothing it's gonna do for me. You can't keep your steel in one piece.
But yeah that that kit's got next to nothing in it. Hey so you're gonna drink
the emergency water that's in there right? Well that's what I was thinking for the liquid IV
I mean I've got water
But if we get to the point where the water is gone and you and me are both like do let's stop and hydrate
Or if we wake up in the morning and we feel like shit
Yeah, you know what?
I mean that kind of thing and I was thinking we open the emergency water for the liquid IV in it
Give it one of them
Now do you have like a life straw? Do you have
any other means? They do have a life straw in there. Yeah there's a life straw in there.
I heard your DAC say about the life straw. There's some Santa tabs in there. Yeah. Oh they got some Santa tabs.
Yeah like the iodine or like chlorine. It's the drops. Drops. Yeah. Yeah so that's probably even
honestly I'd rather do that than
the life straw but I think we have three six nine twelve emergency water bags
these guys that are about that side they are like five by four or three or
something like that like you know how much water like 16 ounces or ounce I
think it's four point two five ounces or something like that and a lot oh no it's 4.25 ounces or something like that. That's not a lot though. Oh no, it's definitely not a lot.
It's definitely not.
It's an emergency if you're drinking that.
Well, that's a good point.
That's a good way to look at it.
There's going to be like eight of them right here.
Gosh.
I've been, so honestly, when we did this, essentially the exact same time of the year,
I think it might be a little cooler tonight than it was, but-
You guys got it pretty rough.
It was a little warm, but we told, like underestimated how much water we needed and I lost a canteen on the way
I always have problems losing stuff. So by the end by that like mile 10
I was hurt so we did stay for about 30 minutes using the live straw
rehydrated, but it took the full 30 minutes and
rehydrated but it took the full 30 minutes and uh pain in the ass for sure yeah i wish i had a hand pump filter that i mean i have one but i wish the bag had one that's one of the but you know that
needs to be on my list for sure and um i don't know i've been i've been taking some electrolytes
today and drinking tons of water i am fasted right now so i'm at about 24 hours right now
i think there is some mres in there maybe yeah there's a big old pack of mre i'll go a while but I might have some of that especially by the time we hit camp. Yeah I mean
once once you're in it evaluate the whole thing. Exactly I want to try to use everything if we can
reasonably. There's plenty of calories there's a big one of these big bag MREs you know like the
big bag that has I don't know how much. I'm already hungry I'm not gonna lie. Then there's also the they got like an SOS type bar you know
the Mayday sort of sugar flour fat bar yeah and then there's also a nutrient
bar that I've never had before have you ever seen it it's in like a square
orange package it looks like the same kind of consistency
except it's thin, about like two inches thick,
and there's a list of all the vitamins in it.
It's just like a vitamin bar kind of thing.
Interesting.
Yeah, I've never seen those before,
but yeah, they probably taste god awful,
but we'll see.
Yeah, just chewy vitamins.
Yeah, right, exactly.
Mm, yummy.
I have a water story.
Chewy vitamins. Yeah, right.
Yum.
I have a water story.
In Alaska, you're allowed to take what they call adventure training.
And it was you put a plan together, you know, your squad, your unit, whatever, put a plan
together and if they approve it, you don't have to take leave.
You just go do it.
Yeah, it was pretty cool. So ours was a hike to this place called Trout Lake.
We would think it would be full of trout. Yeah, not so much.
But we had to get the water because you couldn't haul water.
Yeah, you can't carry that much.
So we get the water out of this lake. And I mean, it's glacier stream fed.
Sure, yeah.
Not much crap floating in it,
but there was these little red bugs and you could see them.
And this milk jug, we do the thing, pour it in there,
shake it up, 30 minutes.
They're still in there.
They're still alive? Swim around. Do the thing,'re still in there
Swim around Do the thing put it in there shake it up wait another 30 minutes. We're like
Come on look. Oh my god. They're still swimming around now. This is enough chlorine to kill a horse. Yeah
We took a half a cup of Everclear
Yeah, we took a half a cup of Everclear
Right through their cell membranes when Everclear was a hundred
That is a good one good day, that's a survival tip right there start fires
Yeah, you know even if I even Alaska Glacier water don't drink that stuff raw. Oh, yeah I yeah, there's always risk if you're literally gonna die you got no other choice
There's only hope but you know, I did a lot of hiking in
Colorado at like 10,000 plus feet and the water looks so clean, but they're always like never never touch it
Yeah, just gonna get about Giardia or like all this other stuff, too
We were on the Appalachian
Trail, me and my family, this was when we were pretty new to hiking and stuff like that and not
that we're like experts or anything but it was one of the first times we ever all went up there
and I don't we went to some peak had a huge rock scramble that looked like it was man-made almost
like they dumped a bunch of big rocks at the top of it it was really weird at the end
but anyway when we were in there we came across one of those sleeping huts yeah
and then the creek was there and I looked at the creek and I was like that
creek Carter you probably drink out of that creek and then like 40 steps up
there's a big sign don't drink out of the creek
it was funny and then when i saw that that's when i was kind of like i guess you just can't
there's no way where you can just be like oh i'll take a sip out of this water looks so good ice cold yeah yeah it's the dangerous thing that said i drank water out of my hydro blue water filter
the big pressurized jerry can water filter which I think is like one of the coolest things ever
Right out of my back Creek and didn't get sick. Yeah
I mean I only had it like a glass one time because I wasn't about to go all in and die
Because I was mostly worried about chemical contaminants more than anything
Sure, so you know, we're pretty close to a highway and stuff
So yeah, did you get any flooding?
It was it's been insane in Richmond. Yeah. Oh, it sounds like starship troopers in the sky at night
It's a it's not like lightning crack. You know what I mean? It's like lightning
It's not like lightning crack. You know what I mean? It's like lightning
The whole house shakes and you're like what is SpaceX doing up there like that? I don't know what it's the craziest thunder ever. But yeah, we had
Friday making the weather. I don't know man. Like I said on today's show
the weather? I don't know man like I said on today's show, $1.3 billion dollar weather modification budget and weather modification college for the Chinese.
That's just China, that's just what they announced. Or that too. Probably 10 to 1, so 10 billion for what they announced.
That's a really good point. I didn't even think of that. Here I am taking
people on their word. Taking the Chinese commies on their word.
Sure they do well with counting their own costs and stuff.
Maria sent me this video. You know, I have to keep telling her not everything on the internet is real. Right. Okay, so this one drone and they put, I don't know, whatever they put in it. Nitrous, ammonium, something. Oh silver.
Isn't it like some kind of silver something? Yeah, they flew this one drone up there
and they said this one drone made this much rainfall from this stuff. Okay. And
I'm like... Well the guy that Glenn had on and that was the... I really like he kind
of stole what I wanted to do which which was find one of these cloud seating people, but maybe I'll still do it anyway.
But he had the guy on for like 15 minutes, and that was what the guy, the guy said something
similar.
He said, he said, what they put up there is like 10 skittles worth.
That's what he said.
10 skittles worth.
And then also what he said is, it makes the rain dissipates and it's gone.
So he said that it's not the type of thing that like gets stuck up in the atmosphere,
flows across the planet and all that.
So you know.
Yeah, but didn't they, remember when that flooding was in Dubai last year?
Did they do that to themselves?
Yes.
They were bringing the water to the desert.
That they were trying cloud seeding.
Oh.
And it flooded the airport.
Well maybe they didn't know what the hell
they were doing yet.
I guess, I don't know.
We do it.
That guy said we do it a lot.
That's what, yeah, I gotta link that.
I'll link it in this show this time.
There you go.
This time. I said I will link it in this show this time. There you go. This time.
I said I wouldn't link it in the last one
and I didn't do it.
I feel like weather control would be something easy to do
in a chaotic way to just blow things up,
but actually to be focused and help farmers
and get the right amount would be so complicated.
Well, that's what he said that they're doing is Midwest
and to get the river levels up in Lake Mead.
Remember how for years it was like,
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butterfly effect that's what I was worried about before I knew about China
that's exactly what I was thinking I was thinking the Saudis are doing stuff they
don't understand and it's it's you know changing things in the whole world
something's changed though well like you said on your I don't know if it's DAC or
just your show earlier today like now everyone's gonna be prepping it's like everyone's gonna need to prep it's in your face it's DAC or just your show earlier today. You're like now Everyone's gonna be prepping. It's like
Everyone's gonna need to prep. It's in your face. It's not just talking about. Oh, yeah
celebrities and stuff anymore like ten years ago like
disasters everywhere and even even NBC guys
Neighbors are prepping now because they think Trump's gonna have a third term
Whatever gets you prepping I guess.
They have whatever, whatever the motivation is. Dude, one thing about Trump he can inspire
action. He does inspire action. He will inspire some action, good or bad.
That's true. Which I guess in some ways is better than inaction for most people
you know. But the real question is, and we'll find out one day,
the real question is, is 2022 through 2025, coinkedink or sabotage from some foreign entity
or not? You know what I mean? From the train derailments to the Palestine, East Palestine
chemical weapons attack to the, I mean, remember the
sheer amount of factories. The volume, what didn't, when we were doing this, there was
someone that did like, what are the probabilities? And it was something like. It was probably
Carl. 2,690 billion. Carl wanted to make a whole documentary. Yeah. He really wanted,
he didn't have time because of the life
You know, but he was really like James
I want to make a just a documentary on all of these attacks because this is insane the
Probability yeah all these being an accident was like out of the realm
It seemed crazy because you don't hear about him now, right?
Remember was trained around the train to realm a train to rail and then all of a sudden. They're just
Processing plans right remember it was trained around the train to rail the train to rail and then all the sudden it just food processing plan yeah the one Texas yeah the cows
blew up right yeah right I forgot about that yeah there was so many there was so
many huge one too wasn't it it was like 10,000 something like that yeah it was massive yeah and then you know what
maybe maybe it died down because these enemies of the Republic were like just
send the soldiers in through the southern border it's easier yeah and then
and then you know tail end of Biden they whip things back up with Helene they whip
things back up with the Texas now I don't know it seems too weird to me and
the fires too not saying the lasers from the sky but everything that happened in
Hawaii and California and also Canada wildfires yeah that's true so it's you
know I'll tell you what we need probably, talking about it has spurred this idea, what we probably
need to do is go to someone, go to a voice from those communities after the disaster
and say, everybody in national news was saying like this area floods a lot.
You know, because I've talked to some people and they're like, oh it floods there all the
time.
And say like, what are your thoughts?
You know what I mean? Because if something happened here,
you'd be able to say, this was a total of novels.
Half the mountain fell off or something crazy.
And that's what I think we need to hear from people like that
who could say that.
Before you got here, I was recounting to Ben
last year's prepper camp.
Yeah, the literal mountains falling off.
Yeah, and the woman was in my presentation as she broke down
And we we were you know isolated. We didn't know what we didn't know. Yeah, that's crazy and
I could see why she cried because it was a
Disaster. Yeah, like real. Yeah, like it's like you said it was like a war zone. Yeah
Although you've been to those
You understood why that building is paint right? Yeah. Yeah, that's part of the plan. Jay damn does that. Yeah
this was like a
Barn was stopped by a bridge
A barn was stopped by a bridge. The top of the barn was half on the bridge.
Wow. Crazy man.
Yeah, it was just crazy.
So if you ain't prepping...
And it won't be the last, okay?
We're thinking water, so now we'll get a good juke move.
And it'll be something totally different in some other
part of the country.
And we'll go, oh wow, what about that now?
So now when you guys are on the hike, are you going to do, are you going to have cell
coverage, are you going to be able to do?
Well we can record without it even.
True.
I would say from about the one third mark to the two third mark, we probably will because
we're actually going to be at the high point of a mountain and there's a bunch of radio towers there.
But like right down. But at the start we won't have any but that's fine.
And so like tomorrow morning we probably won't like right before we break camp maybe we'll have it.
But like you said we can always pre-record this pre-recorded update later.
So we'll do a few definitely got to do a few check-ins. Maybe we'll test out the Instagram see if we can go live on Instagram when it's
when it's best because that would be fun. Or whenever he says we've got the
best signal. Exactly we'll take a couple of looks. Maybe at the peak or something like that.
Stop at a couple spots like right in the middle like right after you get the good
reception though you do go about 700 feet right down into like a
gorge but you'll get nothing there and there's so many it's rained so much there's so much
tree cover that you'll lose signal oh that makes quick so much water in the air when we did this
at first uh future dad and i we were trying to use the gps like the garments right and they would
even with those it was kind of in
and out at the bottom of that area because they're so these trees are huge you're gonna love it it's
beautiful out there but it's like a hundred foot tall trees and just you're like okay no signals
getting through that that's impressive yeah it's it's it's awesome it's gonna be fun tonight
and then when you get here tomorrow sometime around 10? Probably something like that.
10 possibly earlier honestly, depends.
We're going to be kind of facing the east a little bit.
Some of them will be in our faces by 6 a.m.
I have no reason to sleep in.
Larry is not going to be home from 9 to 1.
But he said the range is ours. Oh nice.
So help yourself. And last time he did that he actually set targets and staples
and stuff out for us. Yeah. Geez. So we can shoot. Oh yeah. Let's do it. And I'll have I have 22
38 special and
357
Did we determine Larry had a 44? I
45 well that'll work. Okay, and
We can test all of them on that body armor. So we got two I should have brought them in
They're about like yay, they're probably about 16
They're big what I was thinking is we could draw some circles on it Yeah, and then the number on top right put the 22 into it here
Yeah, the 38 because it should stop everything in that category
Thanks. Yeah, we can do that a little bit of footage of shooting and then the full analysis, look through it,
judge it, score it.
Yeah, that'll be cool.
They'll appreciate it.
I'm gonna take my AK out and just finish it off.
Yeah, do it.
Do it.
Why not?
I brought it.
I brought a bunch of 5.56.
My brother-in-law, I've been watching his stuff, some stuff for him, we'll leave it
at that. And he was like, I got a bunch of 556 here, if you want to use it for anything.
Nice. Nice.
And I was like, okay. Well, actually, initially, with that first weekend we were coming up,
he had an AR at the house, and he said, I hadn't sighted it in yet. And I said, all
right, well, I'll take it up. We couldn't get it out of the dam. He had one of those
RFID, one of these numbers?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I guess the batteries died.
Oh.
So word of warning PBN family.
Yeah, yeah.
You got that really nice hidden vault that has all your guns in it. You better make sure them batteries work.
For real.
You don't want that in the still of the night.
I'm gonna get back out.
In the still of the night.
Like, oh, now I'm gonna find my manual key. Where the hell is that?
Yeah, well, yeah. Who's got that thing laying around?
His looked like it was kind of like a
homemade deal. Not like, not bad, like looked nice, but it just looked like, I don't think, I didn't,
I looked over the whole thing. I didn't see anywhere for a backup keyhole. I guess he's got
to pry it out of there. I didn't do it. I was thinking about it. I was like, I could probably
get in there. I don't want to ruin it. Well in there. Maria's got watermelon on ice.
You'll get your hydration and all that stuff. Yeah definitely. I won't say anything else because she has some ideas.
That's gonna motivate me tonight when I'm
you know rocking. Dave's gonna wake up we'll just be sleeping in the chicken
coop. We'll just be like keep rocking and we can get there tonight. Future Dan and I
pretty much did do that. Oh did you guys? We sat for about a half hour and just hung out.
I thought you met up somewhere. Well I went down to the bottom of the hill and
got him oh that time you're right that time we did yeah that was yeah that was
the original that was a fun time that was a dark no that was as your that was
the original as her highlight second one was dark trail mark yeah that's right
yeah yeah Dan's awesome with the range is it ruin Dan always comes up with them. You know what would be fun is to turn that shit into a book one day.
You know what I mean with chapter titles like that that would be good.
Well and he still remembers I made fun of these Leathermen'm like, dude, they make new ones now.
This is the last century.
I remember.
If you both are 30 years younger, I might have to get up and get between.
That's what it sounded like was about to happen there.
It was about to be one of those.
Well if you're listening, dad, I'll see you tomorrow.
He's coming, right?
Oh, yeah.
He said he's going to be able to come.
Yep.
I told him, get here before noon.
If you're listening, get here like 10 or so.
Yeah.
Shoot some things, eat some watermelon, hang out.
Yeah, that's 10.
That way, we have enough time.
You said you want to leave before.
Yeah, if I could get out before 2, that'd be good for my day.
So we would at least four hours and stuff. So so Ted might even be here at night but we'll
keep you up to date in the back channels and yeah I said you know we'll keep you
make sure we're checking in if you don't hear us for four hours well there's
they'll be able to find us probably I'll be blowing a whistle. I'm really interested to see what you
guys you know come up with yeah, and if there's any holes
You know oh, I'm sure it's all about capabilities and limitations. Yeah
You gotta come up with
PBN say you're right. I was thinking about this the other day
thinking about this the other day. Make a post.
You said something on today's cache and I said, oh, that's a James.
That's a James.
Yeah, we do.
We do need a list because then we just put them on t-shirts.
No, but we do because it's become a thing.
There's some good ones.
And you know what's cool about it, man, is that the type of podcasting that I do,
I don't go back to things a lot.
I don't go back to standards the way that you go back to standards really well.
And I always kind of envied other broadcasters like on AM radio who had those standard phrases.
And now we have those standard phrases thanks to everybody.
So you're right.
We do need to hammer those because they're sweet.
That's a cool...
That's...
It feels like a...
I don't know.
It feels like substantive.'t know it feels like substantive you know
what I mean like the network is it's got its own vocabulary now yeah legacy
inside jokes but I was just thinking about that the other day it's funny that
you said that I was just thinking really yeah at least the Dave Jones is you know
at least get there we've all had yeah definitely I can't remember what I don't
know I'd have to listen to it. I remember yet a couple of quips
Slogans, they're there. They're there to be mine first
Too many firsts too many firsts. That's that's gold. I
Mean that was literally like Azure Highland. Yeah, I mean and how valuable was that?
You know what I mean? That was probably the most valuable prepping experience you've ever had
I was because I came away from that like I'm gonna tie this down with this
I'm gonna do that probably change your game a lot exactly
That's the power of fumbling over those firsts man. Yeah, you don't get out there and do it
I mean you learn the most when you say
Oh, yeah pain embarrassment, the best teachers.
That's the story of my life.
And if you're gonna do crazy stuff, I mean that's gonna be your story.
I bet you could attest to it a little, right?
You took a lot of risks, you did a lot of cool stuff.
That's how it works.
That's the only way you get good at it.
You know, the only way you turn people look back and go, that guy knows what he's
doing. Yeah, it's because I spent, you know, half the time falling on my face.
Exactly. You just get the luxury of doing it in isolation nowadays. You can make a
lot of mistakes alone. Oh, I'm glad no one saw that. Yeah, if you guys could hear the blooper reel of
shows I started and ended you wouldn't
even believe it.
You might look at me differently the level of expletive that can come out when you screw
up an intro.
Well alright guys we'll let you get and you'll probably be hearing from us, I don't know,
you might hear all this in one big chunk, you might hear some of it in the evening,
I don't know, might hear all this in one big chunk you might hear some of it in the evening I don't know we'll have to see look for us on a variety of platforms
We may even record a damn YouTube video and throw it up
Who knows whatever tickles the fancy out there on the Appalachian Trail?
We'll see all right then let that be that talk to you guys soon
