The Prepper Broadcasting Network - Patriot Power Hour #304 - Indo-Pak War Starts; Tariff Updates; Ration or Ruin Week #1
Episode Date: May 7, 2025Each week on Patriot Power Hour, Ben ‘The Breaker of Banksters’ and Future Dan explore the latest Liberty, Security, Economic & Natural news, providing the situational awareness needed to exec...ute your preparedness plans. Questions, Feedback, News Tips, or want to be a Guest? Reach out!Ben “The Breaker of Banksters” @BanksterBreaker on XFuture Dan@FutureDanger6 on X
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Introducing your hosts, Ben, the Breaker of Banksters, and Future Dan, the editor of future danger dot com. Patriot power hour, May 6th, 2025.
It's episode 304.
Ben the Breaker Banksters here with Future Dan.
We got some pretty important breaking news.
We're going to hit straight away.
Future Dan, Indo-Pak War starts lighting up like a Christmas tree.
Literally in the last hour.
Big developments here.
Maybe you want to run us through some of these
headlines and we can go through this.
Yeah, so from bottom to top we could see in the
archive for this indicator that.
Around April 24th was it that we had the.
A terror attack in this disputed territory
between Pakistan and India, just scrolling up.
Right after that, as has happened before,
Indian Pakistan trade gunfire,
start building up militaries,
exchanging fire for a second day.
Indian PM announces five days later
that there'll be a green light to respond.
Pakistan on May 3rd, three days ago,
test fires a nuclear capable ballistic missile
that is absolutely a demonstration of force.
And then today India was said to have cut off water
this morning and then breaking tonight,
India attacks Pakistan in three locations nine targets
it said tonight this is escalating right now as we speak bed the militaries are in heavy
contact along the loc that's the line of control think about Korea. There's a DMZ demilitarized zone
They don't have a D militarized zone between these countries
They have a line of control basically a dug-in front line, and it is exchanging fire tonight
The Indian airstrikes on Pakistan are deadly
Pakistan is admitting that and bottom line is we fear for war between two
nuclear-armed states. So all this has happened just in the last couple hours
all of the airstrikes and the attacks of May 6th which is today of course and we
talked about this a couple episodes back and I covered a couple of these articles last week as well.
So it's been accelerating.
We've been reviewing and talking about here
on Patriot Power Hour.
Going into this archive, looking back,
nothing approaches this level of hostility between them.
That's in India between Pakistan.
Since 2019 or I don't even,
I think we're past that based off what I've seen my
Cursory review of what was going on 2019 seems like we're past that any thoughts there
There's reports that there's been aircraft struck on the ground
so if these air forces who are
Nearly in combat right now are actually striking each other's airfields, then this is
another India-Pakistan war. Does it escalate to nuclear is what we have to pay attention to.
So yeah, that is why it's on Future Danger and that's why on Prep Broadcasting Network,
where we're preppers, mostly based in the West, mostly based in the United States, not all, but mostly.
Why do we care about this?
Well, nuclear armed countries, first and foremost, even a conventional war with him would be crazy.
It's just so expensive with lives and monetarily worldwide, but the nuclear card is the real, real reason to follow.
Now, what you might be seeing on screen right now, you know, to our radio listeners, you
might want to go check out the archive on Rumble, YouTube and X.
So we do screen share now.
I'm showing from March 2019.
Time flies.
Six plus years ago, there were eight killed in 2019, time flies. Six plus years ago there were eight
killed in India Pakistan fighting. There were tanks, heavy artillery, etc.
being a mass on the border, shooting at each other. Again though, based off my
review here and we'll be digging deeper throughout the show
and in the coming weeks. It seems like this is a whole new watermark at least in the past
decade of hostilities. Indian Pakistan did have a big war in the 70s. I'm gonna have
had a lot of other military action against one another. So I'm not saying this is, you
know, the all out final war between them by any means but it
Does look very very serious and something that's breaking right now the night of the 6th of May
2025 yeah, so what I'm thinking about is
how the Indian and Pakistani
National Command authorities for their new arsenals.
Like think about what's happening right now
between those parts of both of those militaries.
We're talking many score of warheads,
less than 200 each, but they have enough
and very densely populated part of the world, right?
So these warheads stay in bunkers
Right and they have to be assembled
And mated with the with whatever platform delivers them, right?
So you keep them safe and under control in bunkers
Bringing them forward and putting them on delivery systems is what both those militaries are looking at right now, trying to determine if
either of them is doing it. And you better believe that every
major intelligence agency in the world is also trying to
figure that out right now.
You did. I'd like to ask you to repeat the last 30 seconds.
You're kind of warping in and out out Hopefully it was just my end of it
But I'll presume the listeners also had a little bit of rubber banding. Can you repeat that last maybe 30 seconds? Yeah
Yeah, so
Indicators that both of the military's India and Pakistan as well as all the major
intelligence agencies in the West Russia China
intelligence agencies in the West Russia China
All the neighboring countries even Iran
everybody wants to watch very carefully are
the the warheads coming out of the bunkers and but getting put on to
platforms that could be you know delivered and
There's this issue that you know
Especially for Pakistan if you if you don't use them you might lose them if you don't strike first and
And therefore having them sitting in bunkers and not available is
Is it's a dilemma?
It's a nuclear war fighting dilemma
another part of this is
India's National Command Authority and its
structure resembles most Western nations with these weapons and
And in the PM through the National Command Authority and this you know the strategic force in India that that's
Pretty well accepted that that's unified a unified command that you know will operate
Whatever the decision is at the top it'll execute but what we presume our national command authority is for nuclear weapons in Pakistan
Not so much
That that military has its prerogatives that military is not always
You know aligned and subordinate to
The the civilian authority Sharif in Pakistan. How much control does he have of his military? What are major?
Pakistani generals doing and thinking right now
That's something that let's just say, you know, there's there's a lot of
powerful spy agencies in the world right now.
There's there's not to say they weren't focused on this.
They are always focused on this, but there's there's a lot of people right now
on the planet in serious positions wanting to understand is how far is this escalating?
Well, I certainly hope it's not escalating any further than it has,
but we'll be reporting here on Patriot Power Hour.
And well, there's another reason to prep.
There you go.
I don't even think we had Pakistan India war breaks out on our predictions for 2025.
Maybe I'm wrong.
I don't think we did.
We had a lot of, you know, a lot of things that we reviewed, but not that.
And it seems like this could be escalating quickly.
Anything else you want to hit on this topic?
Maybe we could hit the news blitz after if you want.
We can, but I think it's important is like, why is this a future danger indicator?
Let me ask you that.
I know because I
created future danger but why
would this be one of 492
indicators almost all of which
are focused on our country?
Well, I think I talked about it
last week. So, correct me if
I'm wrong and it was 2 weeks ago when you were on the show last with me, but I said
At least from couple places. I've read and heard this is a top five
and I classified it as the fifth most
Likely to turn into thermonuclear war right? Yeah, let's just say North Korea in South Korea. Could that be a top five?
Taiwan and China that could be a top five
And then you have Ukraine
Israel and Iran that's fourth one and
Indian Pakistan, I think this would
Rank maybe it's the fifth most and I don't even know if you can really rank any of those
but my point is any impact stand a lot of war games and a lot of real experts that I've
Read about and read their opinions. I think this is you know top
area where
shtf
Could originate from because it just would permeate to the rest of the world
Yeah, I'm thinking in terms. You're not wrong. You're not wrong at all. But I'm focused on like what what kind of you know major
Fighting might spark off in Ukraine tonight. I think there's reports that Russia has already done a barrage of ballistic missiles
Including him kev so
You know when we all one hands doing something over here, what's the other hand's doing?
India and China, both the nuclear armed states, giant populations have border.
In fact, this same Kashmir Jammu area has territory that India claims that China has
seized, right?
China has forces and has, you know, exposure.
They're right there next to this conflict zone and
What the Indian?
Nuclear posture is is gotta be something that they plan for in Beijing all the time, right? You know, China's probably
Reinforcing its border right now China allies essentially with Pakistan
Making sure Pakistan stays as a client state of China is a an objective objective
you know
The the second-order effects of this what other countries now look at
for entirely unrelated
you know
Unrelated to jammu cashmere does does does this provide cover to for Israel to take a strike on Iran?
Right? If nuclear weapons start getting employed, or even, you know, a real crisis where it's
almost deployed and really bad threats and the world's holding its breath about cashmere in the next 24 hours.
What happens elsewhere at the same time?
Gets very unstable fast.
It does and we've been watching things become more and more unstable over the years over
the 304 episodes of Patriot Power Hour.
Certainly rather have Trump in office than Kamala Harris at this point, but I don't even know if Trump could
Prevent every crisis from spinning out of control at this point
Let's do this news blitz. What do you say?
Go for it, man
All right. Well, we've already gone through all these articles. Let's start there anyway
Indo-pac war starts over the last few days, but especially tonight.
This has been lighting up real quick.
Pakistan test fires new capable ballistic missile as tensions with India soar.
India said to have cut water flow to Pakistan.
India attacks Pakistan from three places from their own airspace.
These missiles hit nine
sites new reporting coming in there operation Sindor is the name S I N D O
R operations indoor Indian Armed Forces strike guerrilla camps not Pakistani
forces is what we're seeing here so So they didn't hit, you know, million dollars
worth of jets on the ground. Forget the dollars. They didn't put any threat on the
Pakistani nuclear arsenal. There you go. That's because use it or lose it. Right. There you go.
Use it or lose it.
Right.
There you go.
Heavy artillery all throughout the areas. I'm not even going to try to read them.
Uh, Indian heavy guns respond in equal measure.
India airstrikes on Pakistan proved deadly with two planes
shot down and huge escalation.
So India was the one hitting Pakistani territory, but lost two of its own planes, it seems.
Fears of war between the two nuclear-armed states.
Let's finish off geopolitics and really security, and you're right, there's a lot already going
on and could some of this escalate because of Indo Pac War?
We'll see.
Well, we have the Indo Paccom commander of the United States saying that China is at
a rapid boil for military action against Taiwan.
Meanwhile, US buzzes Chinese military satellite. China exhibiting end of regime conduct experts warm of this
perplexing behavior.
Could the tariffs push them over the edge internal revolution?
Protests erupt in China steep US tariffs really biting them.
Who the ballistic missiles slam into Israeli International
Airport injuring several.
Trump though was talking at the White House with Mark Carney of Canada today stating that Huthi
cried, uncle, they don't want to fight anymore and they won't attack shipping anymore so we won't hit
them anymore. This is, you know, just a day or two after the Israeli International Airport
Heard a few people didn't kill anyone apparently point is
Maybe that'll
Reverse course and heat back up if Indo pack goes out of control again
we have a couple other security that might not be related to
One more that's not necessarily related to those
theaters of potential war, I guess, but still important. X NSC official fears open AI completely penetrated by multiple
spy agencies. So open AI, IE chat GPT and all those permutations completely penetrated by multiple spy agencies worldwide is
So yeah, give them your data at your I guess peril or risk
Liberty indicators couple sec deaf threatens Iran over Huthi support
Epstein victims father says she wasn't suicidal demands investigation economically federal government debt on an unsustainable path admits the Treasury Secretary. We've seen Bitcoin spike crazy just in the last hour or two.
I don't know if it's out of fear because India Pakistan are just totally unrelated because Bitcoin is crazy.
But we saw gold just today go up. Let's just say yesterday and today go from 3250 to just above 3400. Not those records we saw, you know, just a few weeks ago, but quite a run back up for gold
in the last couple trading days.
You know, real World War Three craziness is going on. I expect gold to just go to $10,000 overnight.
I don't know.
It's a rather tepid the last couple hours, but the US markets are closed.
We'll see what happens tomorrow.
But again, Bitcoin up pretty crazy recently, to get back up to the 100 K mark
Go for it
Geez, I think future Dan. There's no real other economic info. There's
literally no
health or
No, there's fourth column over here. No health or natural news, which no news good news generally in our So future Dan, what's your thoughts on the news bullets? What do you want to hit on first?
Let's hit on the comments on stream yards. We've got Jay Fergie in the house. Thank you for the
compliment. We are the dream team. I appreciate that. Cashmere, cashmere spelled C-A-S-H-M-E-R-E, the goat wool,
it's derived from the region, Kashmir, right?
It's so, you know, that textile came from this region,
you know, became famous in the 18th, 19th centuries.
So same word, but spelled different.
One's a fabric
and ones of sight of a war tonight. And of course, the
Lez Eblen song but cashmere. Yes, cashmere sweaters, right?
Yeah. So, yes, by the way, as always, thanks for folks
tuning in live. We do have chat feature whether it's rumble X or
YouTube we have a fair amount of live listeners right now because this is breaking news with any
Pakistan in the last 15 minutes 20 minutes future Dan and I can even pull up X if you want me to
but have there been major developments on some of the trusted sources and
Searches that you have on X?
Because this seems like a real fiery situation.
There might have been updates just recently.
Yeah, let's set India and Pakistan aside for a moment.
I would say slightly escalated past where it was in 2019, but both sides have domestic
audiences to play to so if they can both come away
You know telling their domestic audiences that they you know served
You know punishment or justice to each other it could
Return to you know every five years we get a border skirmish like this or it could go through the roof
And that's why we have to watch it. But turning our attention to
bigger issue. Look at these articles about China. I think behind the scenes, it's been hinted at,
the part of making a deal to get your tariffs lower could easily be a term from the Trump administration to raise your tariffs on China to basically build a
worldwide, I don't know, quasi embargo, semi embargo, definitely going right after
the Chinese economy and essentially Trump's flex and power that has always been latent in our country. And in my opinion it is,
it is deserved after the COVID-19 bioweapon attack.
So Gordon Chang, very famous,
you know, staunch anti Chinese communist analysts on geopolitical matters with
China.
That's where this article for Chinese revolt or coup occurs
If you could pop that headline open for us
China is exhibiting end of regime conduct
Expert warns in perplexing behavior there is there's Gordon Chang. I like listening to this guy. He is serious
serious author and he knows what he's talking about.
And he does have his political angle on this.
The collapse of the Communist Chinese party in China
would be very welcomed by this man, as it would be, too.
So he's writing this article.
If you're a Chinese Communist proponent, you'd say it's it's spin
But he's making the case that
Things are not all you know
Hunky-dory in the regime in China, right and and
You know, honestly if you lived through the Cold War you saw what Reagan did to the Soviet Union
A period of time in Trump's life. I mean, he was young man and saw that happen.
It could very well be secretly the national policy of the United States
to foment dissent inside of China to the point where at least
the Xi regime falls if not the Communist Party and from a
liberty point of view, that would be a monumental step forward in human civilization.
But in the near term, it's also seriously dangerous.
Last week, and I want to kind of tie this in with the price of gold.
Last week is announced that China sold, I believe was 1 million ounces of gold.
That might be just a placate.
The masses things are hitting them so bad.
They're actually having to sell their physical gold reserves to keep
massive riots and destruction.
I'm not saying that's absolutely true, but that was just regular financial news.
China sold a lot of its gold at the top or near the top, which was late April into May, which is around 3,400 dropped down to 3,200 almost within a week or less.
That's right.
When these tears are starting to bite, why else would China sell those physical gold?
Not to mention they're selling tons and tons of U S treasuries, which is part of the retaliation but also ways to raise capital to barely keep their
civilization going along because they're hurting real bad. So we wanted to float that potential
idea. Then we have tie that in with the protests in China and what you also said about Chiang.
So we're watching all these
different metrics and I think each week we'll see
more and more evidence of concern and hopefully
China will acquiesce, will drop all its tariffs on us,
will be a free society and we can trade with them.
That's a long way from here and I also agree that
we need to play
real hardball actually going back super quick. We don't have the you started the video. We're
listening to Maria Barton. That sucks because I can't even hear it. That web page. We're
good. All right. I don't know if that's even it, but block that out. Uh, glad you told me cause I wouldn't even notice that no one will be able to hear me
still going on.
Awesome.
I don't even know which one it is, man.
This is why I would need to, who knows where it could be at this point.
Maybe it's here.
We're just gonna start closing everything.
When in doubt, close.
Except for don't close stream yarns.
Still not working.
We can still hear you.
Yeah, I don't even see her anywhere on my screen.
So who knows where that is, brother?
Too bad.
Too bad. Too bad.
I'm sure that's on your done.
Yours.
You didn't open a window by accident on your own, did you?
But anyway, I'll keep looking around.
Maybe I got some tab.
I'm just gonna close everything.
I think we're all Twitter.
Yeah, we're okay.
All right, good.
It's just to summarize that article though.
What Chang's saying is, you know the trade war, you know
The things that Beijing's doing near Philippines Taiwan, South Korea Australia
You know that you know, despite needing trade partners. They're still very adverse to these, you know, almost all of their neighbors, right?
Almost all of their neighbors, right?
The missing generals, you know and some of the generals that go missing in China or are relieved of command and quietly
retired at least
They're not Xi guys. They're
Actually
Other power centers in the Chinese military so, you know and and if you adhere to you know a
Certain worldview like like we do that communist regimes are, you know, utterly corrupt and destined to failure
That's what Chang's article is about is the Trump trade wars. It's it's not necessarily about economics
It's about collapsing an adversarial regime.
Just before Maria Bartle, Lamont Loma or whatever the heck your name is
interrupted us. The, uh, I was going to say that part of, uh,
what's going on with China's, you know, you were talking about the worldwide boycott
or semi embargo of China Trump's trying to put together. Well, today, again, when he
was talking with Mark Carney of Canada in the White House just a few hours ago, he was saying,
Hey, for some of you countries, I just, you know, it might be financial, I need to cut
the tariffs or pay fees and we'll play nice.
For some of you others, it's more about freedom or it's more about opening up for business or with
regard to, you know, maybe stop doing so much business with China and we can start trading
with you again with less or no tariffs. So Trump mentioned that it's not just about the financial part of it. It is
a little bit cultural and it is certainly national security. It's all boiled up and
each country is different. He also said, I'm not really going to sign any plans like they're
going to do it. And as soon as they stop doing it, you know, the tariffs are coming back.
I'm not signing plans necessarily. And, uh, you know, it's up to them. They need us and
he finally I just to put a bow on it. I like this. I'm loving
this Trump. He said
America has all the cards, but we you know, we barely got this
done in time like we've been in going back to what you said
where America had this power this market leverage since World since World War II, really, even before.
But we've been losing a little bit over the years, over the years.
And if we didn't turn it around now, I mean, it's still like in question if we can turn it around now, I think we can.
But if we went another 5, 10, 20 years like this, then America really would have been in a backseat position and screwed,
really, compared to China specifically and others. So I know I've been saying a lot, position in screwed really compared to China
specifically and others. So I know I've been saying a lot, but just want to get
that all out there.
Chives backs a little bit up against the wall by this trade war. And now in Asia,
we got India and Pakistan going at it, breaking eight minutes ago. This is not
confirmed. But the Pakistani Defense Minister is
saying that they have taken Indian POWs. Taken Indian POWs so land battles not
just throwing shells at each other but raids or even full-on infantry attacks
I guess it could be POWs from airplanes that were shot down technically,
but we'll have to watch that more developments there.
Yeah. So meanwhile, in our lives, and then listeners of Pepper Broadcasting Network,
Rats are a ruin. What day are we on? I haven't eaten a lot so I can't remember So Saturday was first day Sunday a second third today's for almost done with four
I pretty much hit four straight days of starting now of not eating real food. I guess I
I
Went with only my supplements and my supplements. I'm putting it out there. It'll be just you know transparent
I'm drinking muscle milk
which is
not anywhere near as long-term storage as the other foods were
The products were reviewing this week, but uh 160 calories times three a day. So I had uh
That much with you know, 75
So I had that much with, you know, 75 grams of protein, which is why I'm doing it on Saturday and Sunday. Then yesterday, we had a little first, first try at our Ready Hour product.
So we've started our Ready Hour product review.
Well, I went off. I will be potentially supplementing down the line, but I'm sticking more with the straight up. Hey, if you don't Forage it. If you don't hunt, if you don't trap, if you don't fish it, I get zero calories that day. So Saturday, Sunday and today, Tuesday,
zero calories. Yesterday, I ate my 2000 or so calories of storable food and then supplemented an additional 500 calories. Yesterday, I ate my 2,000 or so calories of storable food and then
supplemented an additional 500 calories with two bottles of muscle milk or equivalent, not the exact same brand, and
a little bit of cod liver and cod liver oil.
So I've calculated, and I won't go too deep into it,
I will share my spreadsheet on a future episodes
and during our rational ruin later this week,
all the guys are gonna get together and talk through it.
So we won't get too deep into it,
but I estimated about,
I'm bigger than the average guy in terms of weight.
So 2,500 calories is more my base load, not 2,000.
So I hit 2,000 calories of storable food like we agreed to, and then my
supplements were about 500 calories. So about zero deficit yesterday. But yeah, I'm at about 7500 calorie total
deficit based on my spreadsheet. So that's 2 pounds of fat. Each pound of fat has about
3,500 calories in it, if any of y'all didn't know. So I'm already like down a
couple pounds and my actual weight is down like four four plus pounds even
though I've only lost a couple from actually burning fat and maybe a little
muscle. Unfortunately at least half of the weight
right now is because water, water weight when you don't eat, especially if you go
multiple days, your body will kind of drain off some of that water. So a lot
of fluctuation in my weight though because when I did eat the store-bought
food high in sodium and you know you know, I gained five pounds
in about three hours yesterday.
But I've lost almost all of that by today,
which is about 24 hours later.
So yeah, that's where I'm at so far.
I'm feeling okay though, in terms of energy, memory.
I'm probably rambling a little bit more,
but I felt worse live on air.
So we're doing okay so far.
So I shot you a little artificial intelligence exercise that I,
I asked Grok to do for us because we announced ration or ration or ration or
ration. And, and, you know, we're going to do one product a week. So right,
right now the, the, the product of the week is ready hour,
emergency storable food. Um, and I, And I thought to myself, if we're going to
review this, we should have kind of a balanced set of metrics or attributes that we can kind
of compare. Next week will be mountain house. The third week is going to be XMREs and the last week is going to be freeze-dried food
from Dave Jones's Homestead.
So three off the shelf long term food solutions and one storable solution, but not preserved
for a 30 year period.
Right?
So I asked the AI to just suggest some metrics and it did.
And we're going to talk about them in a minute.
And then I asked it to kind of like consider, you know, on for every one of these metrics,
what's the least and the most, the worst and the best that a particular product could be.
And then I thought, you know, some of these metrics are actually interrelated with other
metrics. And then I thought, you know, some of these metrics are actually interrelated with other
metrics.
So if you're going to like bash or knock an aspect of a product, you got to take it against
a duration why it's that way if it has interdependencies.
So I want to I want to run through these attributes and we're both eaten off a ready hour.
We both ate it yesterday and
This this i'd i'd like to suggest for tuesday patriot power hours is sort of uh,
You know a preliminary scorecard
And like you said a moment ago
By friday, we're going to get together and have you know
The final say on how that product was again. We're only eating these emergency storable foods on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays and
We're limited to six thousand calories or two thousand calories for those three days
So you want to you want to jump through some of these metrics with me?
Let's do it. I like it. Like you said, you can't be score perfect 10 in all these metrics. It's literally impossible
So you got to give and take somewhere. So let's go for it
longevity
First thing most people think about right? So in any food, I mean
What is it shelf stable? How long will it last?
So zero is it spoils within days or weeks like fresh produce from from wherever you may get it and and a
Ten on the long jet longevity scale is you know shelf life of 30 plus years
Which is what ready hour?
claims and
The interdependencies like what else is related to this well? I I'm gonna preview some other attributes by doing this but the packaging
Right durable packaging zip lock seals the ready our has ziploc seals
So you don't have to use all of the contents of a pouch
Additives you're talking about the additives the sodium but it's not just sodium. There's a lot of preservatives
So, you know as a catch-all
Additives is a different attribute to look at
It has a downside and we'll get into that in a minute, but it's
contributes to longevity, right and
And preparation another attribute, you know freeze free side foods require preparation
More preparation. I was actually used to. I was doing more cooking for a
longer amount of time yesterday than I usually do. That's longevity. Any word from your perspective
on Ready Hours product in that regard? Oh, it's got to be, if not the best, then possibly one of
the best with regard to longevity. And what I'm gonna do here real quick is
Copy paste this so people can read maybe some of this
But it's got to be like a nine or ten out of ten for longevity. That's the best strength by far
Yeah, we're not gonna measure it further by Friday. So on the look on the longevity scale
Ready hours gonna be you up, up towards the max. But right after longevity or right there with longevity, you got to think about nutrition zero on the scale would be insufficient calories, lacking essential nutrients, no protein, vitamins, minerals. I mean, it's food, but you can get malnutrition if that's all you're eating on the zero end of that scale.
The nutrition scale.
On the 10, it's everything that's best about any diet
that you could possibly have, right?
All the proteins, all the freshest foods,
all the sufficient carbs and fats, right?
I'm not a nutritionist, and I haven't studied the labels on
these packages. I probably will as I eat them because I'm looking right now. I got them right
in front of me. I got Traveler's Stew, creamy chicken flavored rice. Notice that's not chicken,
that's just chicken flavored rice and cheese and broccoli and rice soup. So I'm not going to read packages on this stuff,
but you know, you know, the the nutritional label.
But I mean, it's food.
There's nutrition in here.
I'm not sure where it hits on that scale.
Do you?
I have a pretty good guess, in my opinion.
I do at least.
So I'm mostly looking at macronutrients to keep
it simple so you want to have not a whole bunch of carbs with no protein and
no fat now some fats are better than others and some proteins are better than
others but with the like
let's just take the so far the worst by the cream you know strawberry cream of
wheat it was like 90 plus percent carbohydrates yeah almost no protein
almost no fat and also fiber don't forget fiber. So it has no fiber, no fat, no protein, all carb.
These are all low protein.
I got the packages here.
I got the packages right here.
They're all like seven grams per serving.
They're not very high.
And it's seven grams of protein
and it's like 40 or 50 grams of carbs,
which is just like a horrible ratio.
I usually go the opposite
where I want like 50 grams of protein for like five or 10 carbs, but I'm keto most of the time.
But my point is that's one that's a baseline nutrition.
If you don't get better, a better mix than that, like you can't get higher
than a four out of 10, like no matter what, in my opinion.
Yeah, yeah.
The next attribute, which is you can't avoid it.
You got to talk about
it, but I would question whether it's of the same standing as, you know, longevity and
nutritionist tastes. So zero is extremely unbalanced palatable. It's kind of lower
morale in your group. If you're eating it, it's just not good right and 10 is you
know the most you know gourmet food of that you prefer that you could possibly
imagine on a scale one to ten ready our just just the meals you ate yesterday
what are you thinking about the taste so we have I think I believe five meals but
again there are multiple servings.
So five meals, I've used two of the five, the strawberry cream of wheat.
I had about 800 calories, 700 calories worth.
It was pretty horrible.
Two out of 10 tastes.
Yeah, it was, it was rough.
It was rough.
I had the same thing yesterday, but I also had the potato soup and it was much
higher on the taste scale to me.
Me too. I gave it like a six out of 10.
And what I'm thinking of is like literally at a, like a nice restaurant,
what would their potato soup be like an eight or nine or 10? So I was like,
this is a six out of 10.
You know,
I kind of boiled it down longer than the instructions and got it a little bit
more solid.
Cause after not eating for Saturday and Sunday, I was like, I need to have this,
you know, I need, I need to get filled. I need to have felt like I ate something.
So my stomach would start growling, right? Yeah. It was, you know,
I could see an emergency scenario eating that without any problem once,
maybe three times every two weeks. And, you know, the potato soup I'm talking about, I
don't like cream of wheat anyways. So the three, the 30 year lifespan cream of wheat
was, yeah, it was rough.
Next up, variety. All right.
So this is hard because we were busting up and breaking out.
I guess you had what?
Three months pale of ready hour
and you broke it up for James and I
and you to do this product review.
So the variety, you made sure none of,
we didn't get repeat packages
and anything.
So I'm, I'm thinking that the variety is decent, but you know, a zero would be you're eating
the same meal every day.
Ten is the most, you know, luxurious widest range of meals.
What what do you, what are you thinking about this variety?
So this one, I'm gonna have to,
it's kind of wishy washy.
What I would say is the basic ready hour buckets
that I have, let's just say I've spent like $500 on them
and it was a while ago, so they're more expensive now,
but I have like 10 of these buckets and they go as pairs.
So it's really five pairs of you know equals ten five
times two equals ten. Yeah I only opened one of the buckets so there was only
like five types. The other bucket has an entire five different variety that I've
never tasted and I knew guys didn't get any. So there's some built-in extra
variety there that we won't ever notice. Um, one thing I'll say,
I got hungry like a few weeks ago and I,
we were looking through this stuff and they had some banana chips, essentially like freeze dries, bananas that were in snack.
I ate them up already and they were pretty good.
So they were actually pretty damn good. Those only lasted 10 years though.
It said it clearly on the back 10 years only
They're about three years old and I ate them and they were pretty damn good
That was a part of rationer room, but my point is there is a little bit of variety
but
Eventually, it's a lot of soups mashed potatoes mashed potatoes soup and just rice type things
Like you'll get real sick of mushy mouth stuff I'll tell you that yeah yeah and you saw the total array of products
that your bucket came in let me ask you this how many days would a group of
people feeding off of this emergency supply food have to go before you are
on the second or third or fourth time
that you had to eat some of these things that you really some of it's not bad, but some
of it like the cream of wheat, that'd be rough. How many weeks do you think before you start
to get food fatigue, right? You want variety because food fatigue is a thing. It's sort of on the softer
side, right? Nutrition is on the hard side. Like is the nutrition there? Yes, no. Can you consume
it? Can you function taste? Food fatigue variety is a little bit more on the, you know, depends on
how hard you are, right? And, and sure. If you're eating this, you're maybe sad to say, but you're going to be getting harder.
Yeah, exactly. That enjoying life in Hawaii or something like that.
Probably a month before you started to get food fatigue with one bucket.
Is that I feel like you could have let's well, one thing I do is I twice a day during this.
So I don't have three meals, I have two.
So I would say you could have two different meals per day
and have it completely different,
all different for an entire week.
So that's like 14 separate things.
And so you could probably go, if you went a month,
you'd only eat each thing for four times within four times within a month I mean but that in particular getting sick of the
potato rice or I mean the potato soup that would be a little tougher but just
overall being sick of store-bought food of course you would get food fatigue
much more quickly now the strawberry cream of wheat is different because I
hate that already and I don't ever want to eat it and get honest already.
I might try to force myself to eat it on like day 27 of our challenges to see if I like it more.
But there you go.
Ready hours gonna have its...
This is ready hours week. It's the product review of ready hours. So don't say...
Well, I got other bags is what I mean. I might just try it out. Okay, maybe I'll try it after the exercise.
What I meant is like if I'm more hungry in like two weeks from now, because
this is only week one by week three or four, I might like that cream of wheat a little
bit more. Well, we did say in our signal chat when when and James Walton's doing this the
same time, right? Right. If you actually could forage berries, fresh berry,
then the cream of wheat that you're eating them in
would be tolerable.
If it was loaded full of first and sixth forage berries.
So maybe you wanna try this again in June
when the strawberries are, you know,
maybe July when the blackberries are out.
Perfect.
And if I had not eaten the banana chips already,
the freeze dried banana chips, it would have gone decent in it.
Not great, but it would gotten from like a two out of 10 to
like a four out of 10, which that can make a big difference.
Yeah, I can't give the cream of wheat even a two. It was rough
to rough to eat. Preparation is probably part of that. So
preparation is our next kind of zero to 10 metric, right? Zero is, it's on the low side, complex preparation, multiple steps, cooking equipment, significant resources, not really practical in an emergency or, you know, get ready to get thrown back to the, you know, 1800s when you cooked the meals by wood fire right 10 is minimal preparation
Just add water no cooking needed and we already know that the XMREs there civilian newer versions of
Military ready. We're gonna we're gonna look at XMREs two weeks from now
They're gonna score at 10 on the on the minimal preparation. They're ready to score at 10 on the, on the minimal preparation.
They're ready to eat. It's like literally in the name ready hour though.
It's takes, takes a little bit of work. How'd you find the preparation score for
ready? Are there, there, their preliminary score on Tuesday?
I'm going to answer that super quick, but do want to say no shout out to Jay Ferg.
Jay Ferg.
Jay Ferg says she commends us for this.
She just got moved so she can't do this this time but maybe it'll inspire to test some
other things out.
If not, just try out some of your storable food, you know, folks out there.
If you don't want to starve yourselves a little bit, at least try out some of your storable
food.
See what you like, see what you don't like.
Jay Ferg finally says, my biggest issue would be my food allergy. I think
this is something we'll talk about a little later here like if it messes you up but uh knock on
wood my food allergies I don't really have any and I did not get messed up by it last night so
Jay Ferg thanks again for in the chat will anybody else out there have questions or thoughts? Let me know. Preparation for ready hour. Both of the both the cream of wheat and the potato soup were,
I don't know, I would say I'm gonna say seven out of ten. So the higher the number the easier it is to make so that's kind of good
You would think it's you want to be higher, of course
So you got a boil water and you got to kind of whisk it and stirred a bit
But it's still just pretty damn easy couple steps
boiling the water and spending 10 15 20 minutes
Stirring it to taste and all that is a little bit of a pain to ass,
especially if you were doing it by a fire
and you worried about people trying to come
and kill you or steal your stuff.
I'd much rather have an MRE.
So maybe it's not a seven out of 10,
just for the fact you have to boil water,
maybe what do you think the hard cap on that is?
Yeah, yeah, it's was, it's work.
It's work.
It's nothing our ancestors couldn't have done.
But when you live in modern life
and you can microwave things fast
and lots of food comes, you know, ready to eat.
Oh yeah, sure.
If you are not, you know, back to basics, homesteading,
producing fresh food and you guys, you know, back to basics, homesteading,
producing fresh food and you guys, you know, you're making, you're making freeze dried soup, right?
So you got to measure it right.
I think I did the, the cream of wheat wrong.
They got put too much water in it and it made it worse.
So I'm not given ready our seven just yet, but I have three more of these pouches to make. So we'll see. Now it's less than seven for me. Cost, the next factor. Do you happen to know which package you bought? Because I looked up ready hours, current offerings, right? And maybe, yeah, maybe you
could tell us which one. There you go. Yeah, they're, they're,
they're X handles in there and you can get to their website
from it.
Nice. Oops, wrong thing. There we go. So I don't remember the
exact price, but it was
so you go to the exact price but it was.
So you go to the case pack, no bulk foods, oh no emergency food kits, top left choice in the menu.
There you go.
Perfect, this is exactly what they look like,
the two week emergency food supply.
This is it.
Yes, it comes with two different buckets,
like bucket one and bucket two.
I think it looks, I don't see the different buckets, but I did get a two-week
emergency supply. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I got a one-month emergency supply and each bucket is two weeks.
I think it is that actually. So I got to double-check all this because again, I had got pairs of buckets.
I got five pairs of buckets. That's ten total buckets, which in this, in theory, would be $1,270. I sure as hell didn't pay that much,
but I know storeable foods gone up 30, 40% since the pandemic, if not more.
But this looks very similar because I definitely have mac and cheese.
You guys didn't get any and I didn't open that up, but I know for a fact,
it has that it has the, uh, I know we have the home salt potato soup,
maple Grove oatmeal, Southwest rice, butter know we have the home salt potato soup, maple grove oatmeal,
southwest rice, buttermilk pancakes, long grain white rice, creamy chicken flavored rice. I believe
that was James Walton yesterday. Yeah. All right. Yeah. For breakfast. What none of us got was orange
energy drink mix. So that's like eight, nine or 10 out of 10 in terms of, I think you just mix it up
and drink it and it's, you know, sugar and electrolytes. So that wasn like eight, nine or 10 out of 10 in terms of, I think you just mix it up and drinking and it's, you know, sugar and, uh,
electrolytes. So that wasn't part of what we had,
but the bucket had it as well as those banana chips. I'm telling you,
this is one of the best things. It's not in this bucket though.
It must be in the other bucket. Uh,
the chips were good tons of calories and literally just open a bag and eat them.
So that was good. I know you're hungry. I was frickin starving.
We sort of deviated. Let's go back to cost.
The cost measurement on this is, um,
we got to do the apples to apples.
So I don't think we're going to have a score even this Friday,
but we've got to go and look at the costs and the account basically,
you know, cost per calorie might be the easiest way to do the measurement,
but I'm pretty sure the cost on ready made hour is
Going to be on the low side compared to the other products that we're doing this week or this month. Yep
You know, we talk about apples to apples and then there you know,
Are apples to oranges they're different with quantities and different packaging. So, you know, you got to equalize it.
How do you actually measure Dave and Maria's time producing the week of food that
we're going to eat of them?
Um, some would argue it's cheaper, but their labor went into it.
And that, that wasn't, you know, time is money.
So cost is going to be a hard one to measure, but I'm getting a feeling.
This is, this is preliminary.
It's ready hours going to be on a higher affordability score. I believe.
I agree. It'll certainly be higher affordability than the Mountain House, which is known as
relatively premium. Well, I'll run the numbers, though, especially just at today's market
prices. We'll just compare. We'll try to do that. But anyway, next week, mountain house, I feel like that
will be a little more expensive and the XMREs are definitely more expensive, but they are
they look so good. I'm already looking forward to them.
Number one reason for that is the next attribute packaging. Yeah, right. Actually, no. Well,
packaging, but also after that portioning
packaging is about how safely the food is, you know, packaged so that you can trust that
it's edible when you go to use it, even if it's decades later. So the packaging for ready
hour seems, you know, superior. It's, it's, it's, it's going to be edible if it's kept, you know, according to directions, you know, dry, cool place. This is not
fleas, flimsy, easily damaged pouches. They are about as durable and protected as they can be, but by what I can tell.
They definitely are. And one thing I love about the Ready Hour are the buckets They're storable meaning easy to stack on each other and they're nice shape or whatever and extra level protection for sure
I highlighted it for those that are watching the presentation so to speak pests
You know packaging protects against moisture light or pests in my early prepping days, let's say about a decade ago,
I had just a bunch of like oatmeal and relatively loose packaging,
just in like a duffle back.
And it ended up in my garage.
And let's just say the mice got in there and ate it all up,
made a huge mess, crashed all over the garage.
So don't forget about pests in this bucket.
The bucket makes it with a nice carry handle.
I'm not gonna put it back on screen,
but my point is the packaging for Ready Hour
is really good, I think.
It's two levels of packaging.
You got the bucket and that goes for the,
like the macro storing it.
Right. And then the micro is the pouch
and it's Ziploc sealed.
So you don't have to, you know,
you can just pour out of it as much as you need to eat.
So, you know, I'd give Ready Hour
a pretty strong preliminary grade for packaging.
Portioning though, that's important to talk about.
I'm a former soldier.
My experience in this kind of food is the meal ready to eat.
So I'm getting, I'll read them real quick.
We got cheesy broccoli and rice soup.
This has four servings per container.
The Traveler's Stew has four.
The what's this thing?
Crevy, creamy chicken flavored rice.
This has four and I think there was eight in the
cream of wheat and again four in the potato soup and you got to have the measuring instruments
to pour it out and you know, do the recipes sound simple, right? Sound simple now add a major catastrophe
Shit, sit the fan. You have no electricity. You haven't rehearsed this you haven't trained on this you're
Getting it started and finding a way to make this food off of a campfire
Let's just say there'll be a learning curve there and it won't be an enjoyable one
no, and it's still early to tell because we've only prepared a couple things each it sounds like,
but I thought I did pretty damn good preparing both. Maybe I could make the
cream of wheat better, but my point is it would only get worse than how I created it with all the
electricity, you know, pretty happy life. I'm still living even though I'm getting pretty hungry these days. I prepared as
best as I could with measuring instruments like you said on a stove
top or whatever and still like, you know, that was best case scenario and it wasn't
the greatest. So the portioning, you're right that I think the eight, so the cream of wheat and there's also oatmeal and
pancakes which we did not disperse but that came in these buckets and you know that's
eight servings.
That's like a pound of pancake batter, right?
Which it's it is resealable but it's not as awesome in terms of yeah the portioning.
So the portioning is not ideal.
I don't think it's horrible, but yeah, it's like a six out of 10.
I would give it so far.
And a couple of weeks ago when we did our pre-rash and a ruin, you know,
kind of planning event where we went on air with Dave and James, if you recall,
Dave shared a story from his army service of the early MREs.
And then we got all into army MREs
and talking about how it was like eating those.
And one of the points I made and asked him about,
and he confirmed, is that you just throw them out
to individuals.
When it's time to open a case you toss one to each person
You get rid of that whole
Dilemma of you know picking favorites and getting people, you know
Pitted against each other and upset because they had to eat the the tuna every single time, right?
The portioning for ready hour it's for your group
It's not for an individual an individual can pour out a little bit at a time pick and choose and
Have lots of choices, but for the portioning when you make an entire pouch, right or you know
You know how to cook for people how to cook for people and make sure everybody's getting you know
The calories that they need right? It's it's harder with ready hour. You're going to have to be in a tight.
It's meant for a family.
It's meant for a family that is tight with each other.
It's not meant for strangers to start popping open these, you know, things and,
you know, think about it.
People would be starving or near starving in this scenario.
The portioning for ready are definitely means sociologically. You got to be in a group with trusted members.
I like it.
Yeah.
I mean, they call it family style for a reason at the restaurants.
This is family style.
It's not half or one, uh, portion at a time.
It's not like you're given a hundred calorie, uh, energy bar or something, not even close.
And we, uh, continue, uh, Jay Fergie's popping into the, uh, Calorie energy bar or something not even close and we continue
Jay Fergie's popping into the
Chat she's has some updates. So why don't we read those?
Soy is her allergy
Oh
Yeah, so is so bad. There's so much GMO crap in this
I'm just pretending that's not existing right now, but I am very sad for my
I'm just pretending that's not existing right now, but I am very sad for my DNA and I'm gonna be
Allergic reaction to soy so that's that's very important if you're in
To you know emergency food supply making sure that you're gonna be able to eat it, right?
So that Jay Ferri also says we're gonna love those MREs. We're gonna love them compared to uh,
I think this week because I think there's aspects to the MRE that are,
you know, it's got a little candy in there, maybe.
I'm not getting any of that this week.
Storage, we talked about storage and packaging
go hand in hand.
In terms of storage, you're saying that the Ready Hour
buckets that you have and shared
for this product review are much preferred for your ability to stack them, store them,
move them, put them in small places.
It's a good storage solution.
You degree?
Yeah, I think so.
I like the bucket more than like a big chest of them because the bucket is fully loaded
or kind of how it comes is about 20 to 25 pounds so
Got 25 pounds in each hand most
Adults, I think and you know fireman carry or whatever is called farmers walk
25 pounds in each hand a bucket right a hundred yards or more if you had a
Carrier bug out with it throw it in the car. So point is a good carry on their form form factor. There you go. I do like that equal or
more than some big chest that I've seen some storeable food come in. And so we got that.
Go ahead. And the MREs those are in cardboard crates. So once you break them open you're down to the individual meal ready to eat
but in terms of bulk storage those ready hour buckets are you know perhaps superior to just a
cardboard uh carton and jay ferg said that rats can through chew metal cans so they get through
metal they definitely get through probably these freaking buckets, honestly, but definitely cardboard
They would take them a while
Yeah, exactly better, you know make sure you
It's up to you to also prevent pests from having full all unlimited access to your stuff
So what when I was coming up with these metrics? I wanted to make sure that a very you know behind-the-scenes
contentious aspect of
rational ruin is measured. Okay. So I tried to get a catch all category that would reflect the things that honestly you and James are more worried about than myself. But among the four of us,
including Dave Jones, I'm definitely the least concerned
But additives right and and and the health effects what you what it means to you?
Immediately after eating it is is is a dimension that we should talk about right? So
counter intuitively perhaps to you intuitively I think to many people but perhaps counter
to the view you can see that in interdependency of additives is flavor.
So additives the reason they are in modern foods is because they sell better because
they're generally thought to taste better.
What do you think?
That's some of it in the
storable foods and for general food that's just out there.
That's even bigger reason for the additives is for
taste and to addict you if RFK make America healthy again.
You're checking that out specifically for this. I expect
a lot more additives for preservation purposes but still for some
taste. Everyone focuses on sodium and it's huge there's just so many like
nitrates and other preservatives and electrolytes. Electrolytes could be good
or bad but let's just say these tend towards bad electrolytes, whereas a fresh salad with broccoli
and kale would lean towards good electrolytes. So at a minimum this stuff is like eating fast food
or microwave you know frozen dinners. So that is not towards my lifestyle. My lifestyle is
a lot of whole foods, fresh foods if possible.
So in terms of like how it'll hurt you, I think you might actually want high sodium
on the other hand when stuff hits the fan because you're going to be exercising a lot
probably you're going to need some of those sodium. So if it's you're only eating this
stuff for a week, even a month, a couple months, like I'm not as worried about it. But if you're only eating this stuff for a week even a month a couple months like I'm not as worried about it
But if you literally was eating this crap for a year three years five years, I gotta believe
You know your likelihood for cancer and other long-term diseases diabetes
Gotta go up, but you know it doesn't really matter if you're gonna starve to death probably not no no
That's the important point, but that, we have to think about it.
We have to consider it.
It's not just the health risk of doing an exercise
like rash or ruin, which James Walton described
as an extreme exercise, it's not for everybody.
We know that.
But I think, you know, the additives are there
because you get the 30 year longevity.
So it's a trade space really is all of these
dimensions. And it was that it for additives on the screen. Do we have another?
Let me copy paste. I think you got them all. I think you got them all. So, so it's a trade
space, right? You can do a spider diagram and I have each of these on a pole and you can measure from zero in the middle
of the spider diagram out
and see what the kind of the footprint of this.
We really wanted to nerd out with the data
on this four product reviews of the course of May, 2025
and scored all of these.
We could get some kind of read on them
but additives is going to
be, you know, a low score for ready hour, right? It doesn't get, it doesn't get the
last 30 years without the preservatives. It's just that that's, that's just the way it is.
One of my friends was over, uh, just before Rasseroun kicked off, off, I was enjoying some good food and wine, etc.
Had pretty much she is even more healthy eating than I.
So she took a look at the back, essentially the ingredients of all three of them.
And she said that the ex-MREs looked fairly healthy.
You know, this is relative.
And also the mountain house didn't look too bad.
However, the ready hour in her opinion,
especially a couple of the.