The Prepper Broadcasting Network - Patriot Power Hour #305 - 6 Spectra of Preparedness
Episode Date: May 14, 2025Each week on Patriot Power Hour, Ben ‘The Breaker of Banksters’ and Future Dan explore the latest Liberty, Security, Economic & Natural news, providing the situational awareness needed to exec...ute your preparedness plans. Questions, Feedback, News Tips, or want to be a Guest? Reach out!Ben “The Breaker of Banksters” @BanksterBreaker on XFuture Dan@FutureDanger6 on X
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the into the news blitz. You ready for this? Go for it. Alright, let's start in the Liberty column. Liberty indicators on this live May 13th. Beautiful evening, rainy, but I love
the rain. AG says tens of thousands of videos of Epstein with children as well as other
We have one more article here in the Liberty column. The president may suspend
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column on futuredanger.com, there is no active indicator or headline and that
is literally after one week ago the Indo-Pak War seemingly was boiling over.
In fact, while we were on the air, there were just about the time we were in the air, there
wasn't just artillery strikes, but a huge, huge air battle.
But a ceasefire essentially has been declared, knock on wood things have been quiet.
Ukraine, Taiwan, Israel, Middle East, all from a security standpoint, quiet.
So no articles right now. Economically, excuse me, Treasury to hit the debt limit
in August. Will they raise the debt limit in August. Will
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how much will certainly keep
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However, compared to where we
were a year or two ago with the
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America certainly does not seem
like the US dollar is going
anywhere anytime soon with all these deals going on whether it the trade war with China like is dangerous news and there really is not too much of a
natural column. There's not much uh dangerous news real
fast. Let's go look at just to round out the economics. I
suppose over the last week, Bitcoin has climbed from 93 K
to 104 K. Yep. Could have made $11,000 in the last week by
low sell high. That's my
suggestion. Gold on the other hand has gone down a bit in the
last week from about $3,400 and remember it was at $3,500 a few
weeks ago down to $3,256 which certainly is not concerning or
low if you own gold. In fact let's look at the one month the price of gold is not uh
both uh Patriot Power Hour both uh Patriot Power Hour the news blitz. It's quite an incredible jump over the years. We've been on air future Dan
here both uh Patriot Power Hour
generally and specifically here
on Prepper Broadcast and
Network. So, that's the news
blitz. Anything you wanna focus
on in particular right now?
It's not often that two of the
columns are empty of news but
they are. So,
pretty safe evening in early
May 2025, I'd say. Good time to
keep on prepping and uh well,
we're in the middle of ration
of ruins. So, every little bit
of stress that I could you
know, avoid is helpful with my
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maybe maybe talk about some of these headlines later in the show but there's
not really much new here. They are headlines. You know not not really
changing anything on the heat map dashboard. So what Ben and I wanted to do tonight is
Have a conceptual conversation about
Prepping and just another way to look at it perhaps
so At the end of the show, maybe Ben will do a recap of rational ruin tell everybody how we're doing with the mountain house
but for the time being I wanted to jump into something we've been maturing over
several episodes what do you say let's do it let's have at it so we're showing
a pressure gauge but why a pressure gauge well give it some thought came up with this kind of simple system
to help you
Reconsider survival and and preparedness to survive so
What we're going to talk about we're calling the survival spectra. Okay, and there's six
Spectrums on for the total survival spectra
food water temperature energy moisture
And your temper
and what's interesting about those six factors is
They they show how your body
handles different levels of things it needs to stay healthy.
And if you think of it like a gauge where the green zone is the, is the
comfort zone, right?
And different people have different comfort zones for these matters.
So the picture we got here is a nice wide from two and a half to seven and a half wide on the
top, right?
Lots of people's comfort zones for food, water, how cold it is or warm it is, their energy
level, how wet or dry their conditions are and how their mind reacts to that.
How wet or dry their conditions are and and how their mind reacts to that
They're gonna you know I think it's fair to say that most modern Americans their
Comfort zone is pretty narrow pretty narrow for these things
So let's talk about you know what each of these spectrum are their scale, right?
So the scale goes as you can see on the screen
To the left the you know it's something that's completely deficient
You don't have enough of it, and it can make you sick or kill you starved dehydrated
Hypothermic right starved is a lack of food dehydrated lack of water
hypothermic lack
Heat right and it kind of scales towards almost enough close
To okay, but not quite right. That's when you feel hungry thirsty just cold
Your comfort zone is the middle you feel good. You're sated. You're hydrated
thermo neutral And then it swings the other way to on some of these, you know
Some of these more than the other but you know too much right, you know you you
And food and water the hard ones to go too much on right, you know, it's easy not to overeat
it's easy not to drink too much but
temperature It's easy not to overeat. It's easy not to drink too much. But temperature, you can go very hot conditions
and be in danger from it, right?
And that's where it swings all the way to the right
on the gauge.
Way too much can be dangerous.
Hyperthermic, right?
Or when it comes to your temperament, panic, right?
So, you know, imagine each spectrum has a range green in the middle of the comfort
zone and red on both sides start to get in trouble.
And the body seeks balance, right?
It wants to be in that comfort zone, loves to stay where everything feels right.
It's it's homeostasis really is the, is the $10 word, right?
It's the homeostasis and
for food
your stomach's gonna growl because of
Hormone graylin hormone it when it's hungry and it's gonna feel full when you've eaten enough the leptin hormone right water
Right you know your body feels thirsty when you start to you know slide to the deficit side
Energy you know you feel sleepy when need rest so this is pretty simple stuff, right?
so
What's interesting is they still you know different six different spectrum or scales they start to affect each other not enough food
You're starving makes you tired exhausted
dehydrated can make you you know
Super skin your skin, you know super dry right, you know too cold or hypothermic
You know uses energy which then again makes you exhausted. So the compounding effects of this are
are an interesting
Aspect to it.
So, you know, if you've been cold, hungry, tired, thirsty, and sleepy all at the same time,
you know, you're starting to get into the deficits on many of the scales.
It's not, you know, you know it when you feel it.
You don't like it.
Some of these spectrum are external temperature, the air temperature, the weather
of your environment, freezing snow to scorching heat, right? And that's where shelter comes
in, right? Being properly sheltered to protect you from that. Moisture, right? Rain, humidity,
or even super dry air effects on your skin, your clothes, those are imposed externally on you.
And if you think about it, water and food are external.
You have to have them, you have to provide for them, right?
So those are outside resources that have to come
into your body to maintain that needle in the green zone.
Others are internal, right?
They're sort of second order effects
of temperature, moisture, water and food. And I'm talking about energy depends on how,
you know, how much food you've had, how much rest you've had, how your body uses energy,
you know, that's internal. And then there's temper temperament, your your emotions your reactions to stress danger fear
Right. That's internal. So those energy and temperament usually follow
The the primary external, you know temperature moisture water and food, right? So
For some of these you can think of a scale
Perfectly from 0 to 10 like the gauge that we're showing right now and that's temperature
It'll it'll it's dangerous in both directions for others. I said this earlier food water
Easy to avoid overdoing it. It's not something that preppers talk about like what are your preparations for not overeating?
Doesn't make sense, right? It's possible to get injured on the excess side
But you know, it's not it's not really a consideration
So
Where are the tipping points? Where have we been in our lives and can think back to your?
Tipping points where you are getting out of the green into the red or your you're in the red
But you know the needles going down or up in a way that you know had a compound effect
Effect maybe you you know you were calm you were patient you were
emotionally under controlled and it started to get into anxiousness and
Maybe even burgeoning on panic right so
and maybe even verging on panic, right? So where have those tipping points been in our lives?
We're gonna talk about those in a moment, right?
But the reason we're talking about this
on Patriot Power Hour is it applies
to our Azure Highland exercises
to include Azure Highland 4,
Ration or Ruin going on right now, big time with food.
So what I advocate for is widening comfort zones.
Preppers think about how to train to handle tougher conditions
and how to make their comfort zones bigger without hitting red danger zones, right?
So, you know, what we're doing in
rash or ruin practice fasting get used to less food with without going towards
starvation right without malnourishment right that's why we're supplementing you
know building mental strength to stay calm you know to be ready so that panic
stressful situate you know stressful situations don't turn into
panic right so we're going to talk about lots of ways to train for the you know widening your
comfort zone and why is that important because if you look at the graph the gauge when you when
whenever you're hitting that red and coming off of the green you feel it. It's the suck is starting right and
how different people react differently to that and and the ones that don't cross that barrier very frequently or
Maybe young, you know earlier in their lives. They did it all the time, but they haven't done it a lot lately
you got you got trouble going on when you're crossing that tipping point and
You know how to be mentally prepared prepared for it
I believe it's very important because you know, you know
SHFT situation
Mental preparedness is every bit every bit as much important as material preparedness.
So in short, the survival specter are basically like six gauges that you can visualize.
And if you think about where's your green comfort zone, is it shrinking?
Is it expanding?
Is it, is it a good place?
Do I need to train further to push the boundaries again and remind myself of how to control
myself when things start going wrong, when, when it's time,
time to use your preparations then. So, you know,
want to talk about this,
how training can widen your comfort zones and just, you know,
bring this forward. We, this forward we this this network is
Really really focused many of the hosts
you know before
many great hours of content talking about things like
the food the water the
Shelter how to keep them intact how to build them up to be resilient, right?
That's the material side
What if everything you've prepped for is no longer usable you've been driven away from everything prepped your material solutions are
Not available to you for whatever reason think of a thousand scenarios, right?
but are you ready to continue to survive without without that and
Met you know the mental game is a big part of it, so there you are the six factors
I'll repeat them again. We can talk about them. I want to hear from you Ben about
food water temperature
your energy level
the you know atmospheric conditions that were really wet or really dry and and your temperament
Right, you know and temperament, you know moving from
calm
to
The absence of fear would be apathetic
And swinging the other direction would be anxious trending towards panic
When when have you tested your boundaries on these? different survival spectrum and the pandemic is trending towards that. Let's start with food. I
for some bitcoin donations. I
swear I will do this. Jay
says, hey, dream team, I can
hear some changes just from
your rational ruin. How do you
feel? Mental clarity, how you
adjusting to lack of diet?
Well, that's almost perfect segue into what Future Dan was just talking about. And here we go.
Want me to go through each one
and give a couple examples you said of maybe in my life
when I stress tested or went into the red zone,
as well as just last few years, right?
Right, right.
Okay, Let's
start with food. Honestly, just
in the past year, let's start
before ration of ruin. Just in
the past year, I started to push
my comfort zone on the fasting
point of view. I had probably
never, almost never in my life got more than 24 hours without eating until March or April of last year.
Okay, okay.
Over that one year period,
I went on at least five or six 72-hour fasts.
I also went on like a five and a half day fast during that.
I also just kind of revamped my diet.
It made it much cleaner.
Lost maybe 10 pounds during that time, not a ton,
but definitely healthier performing better
physically. So but before that I was probably much more
vulnerable to lack of food number one and I would say there
is at least long term having too much food of course is because
you get out of shape. Maybe too heavy. You know, if
you can't do any pull ups, you might, it might not just be a
strength issue. It could be you're a little too heavy. So,
you're going to need that strength to weight ratio to be
as high as possible, as much strength for a pound of body
weight if stuff hits the fan. So, I think food, at least in the
long term, eating too much and I would say you
can get sick to your stomach if
you eat too much or eat bad
things. So, what have you done
that? When was the last time you
did that and you made it made
that mistake? Does alcohol
count? Cuz alcohol is the most
prominent example that in my
life where I ate or drank too
much and felt sick about it.
It definitely doesn't hydrate
you. So, it must be food. That's
a little bit of it. Uh maybe
more realistic. Here's a great
example. When I was it all came
to me nowadays but when I was uh
a kid, you know, playing
varsity football, Friday
evening, 7 PM was our kickoff,
right? Yeah. And we would have something called Victory vittles at 4 30 PM and they would bring in great food and I would stuff
my fat 17 year old face because I was so hungry and I often
felt kind of a sluggish at the game. Yeah. And I didn't
really understand it. But now I'm like, oh my god, that was
like the worst. Totally. That's totally on the excess side of
food. Again,
something that as an adult, easy to plan for, but Hey,
just to make up a crazy scenario,
what if there's fresh meat and no refrigeration and
you've been rationing cause you don't have a lot of food? Are you,
are you ready to eat, um,
an excessive amount of that food and take the consequences that come with it, you are you ready to eat um an
excessive amount of that food
and take the consequences that
come with it. Sluggishness,
you're bloated and and and
you're probably going to be
tired. So, it's going to make
you more sleepy in a survival
situation where being sluggish
and sleepy isn't what you want
to be doing, right? You got a
trade off to make there,
right? Definitely. Definitely and uh just relating to rationing. I feel more alert definitely a trade off to make I mean, after a few days of fasting, there's a quick drop
off but uh let's just say if if
I don't eat until four or five
6 PM in a day, then I feel
great up until then. You know,
I'm just uh anyway, there is
something about overeating a
little bit both short term and
long term definitely. Yeah, the
spectrum we're talking about
though is is about the now. How
is your body now? And it gets weird because in a long-term scenario, overeating might produce a situation.
Well, you just just watch the alone show, right?
Most of those people go in to the competition overweight.
The winners of several people that have won it have and the skinny people who are just
not overweight in the least, they struggle. They struggle once the starvation
hits, right? Sure. But we're talking about the now because
that's where you get the tipping point. So you talked about a
tipping point of pushing your tipping points for the deficit
in food and really crossing boundaries in that regard in
only for the first time in the last
few years of your life and and then hearkening back on the mistake of overeating and the
effects of that. Let's let's do let's do water now. Have you have in your life have you hit
either end of the spectrum on water? Uh over hydrating is
hard to do. Yes, I was going to
say I get alcohol and I hardly
drink anymore but alcohol has
had a lot of fun with it but
it's very poisonous and being
severely dehydrated in the
morning. One time I went to go
get an IV because I just
couldn't get my um water up and I just
kept you know, being sick to my
stomach and I've had that from
the flu as well. So, if we're
not just talking about near
alcoholism over looking at you
get very sick when stuff hits
the fan. You could be having
real problems uh keeping fluids
down. So, honestly, maybe super
dehydrated when I was younger like 121314. I was maybe super dehydrated when I
was younger like 121314. I had
the flu really bad. I
remembered one time and but
otherwise, it's unfortunately
like too hungover or whatever
set aside the alcohol though.
Have you have you ever gone?
Yeah, I'll tell you. I'll tell
the audience that you know,
during Azure Highland three at
the end of that, you know, dark trail march. I was really thirsty.
I mean, I wasn't in a danger zone,
but it definitely brought me back to points in time
where I didn't have the water I needed.
And I felt it.
Did you do Azure Highland 3?
And I mean, we tried to use the LifeStraw
and the Stream at the end of that,
found out those things don't fill you up
with water really fast. Hey, that in the stream at the end of that and found out those things
don't fill you up with water
really fast. Hey, that's the
most relevant and great example
of most recent example of where
I was truly dehydrated because
well, if you remember, I one of
my canteens fell off. So, uh I
was lack some water on that
March. It was like July. It was hot overnight, sweltering even I was trying to get some water I mean, it took a lot of effort. It took 10 freaking minutes, you know, but anyway, that was
that was a hit in the red zone, not literally impeding my
physical ability, but not very far away.
A couple more hours of that could have been rough pushing
your comfort zone wider, though you agree.
Yeah, that was definitely pushing the comfort zone and not
in a true danger area. So,
it's good to do that sometimes.
How about temperature? This one
goes both ways pretty, you
know, equally left and right.
deficit to excess. What's maybe
do it this way? What's the
coldest you've ever been? What's
the coldest you've been in the
last 3 years? What's the
hottest you
have ever been and the hottest
in the last three years?
Coldest. Harkens back. All my
stories are like football or
drinking but football as a kid
in Colorado, especially in like
October, early November, we
often played in late season
tournaments and playoffs and stuff stuff. So we were playing really late. So it was so darn
cold. We're talking like foot
plus a snow on the ground.
Occasionally, we would even
practice in a barn or
something but just just so damn
cold even with multiple layers
gloves all all that just feel
like everything's going to fall
off. So that's good. Never
actually got frostbite all the times I lived in Colorado in the Midwest.
Heat! Here's a good one for heat. I don't know if it's the hottest I've been, but again, it goes back to an Oz or Highland.
Our very first one when we went through the dinosaur brush as we call it.
And maybe this integrates with some of your other thoughts that these different spectra they kind of are interrelated so very tired been awake 35 hours let's say had done a lot of
physical exercise the night before and we went and it was starting to get hot
and I was wearing pretty relatively heavy clothing again in June or July and
it you I'm kind of feeling a little dizzy, a little like all these components are starting to hit me at once
and I definitely felt like a little bit of heat exhaustion kind of just like dizzy kind of felt
like I was going to puke a little bit all crash it at once. So you're all-time high on the heat
excess heat given the activity you're given right now, just
sitting at the beach but just
in Azure Highland one most
recent, I would say again
football like two a days in
August and it was like 105
degree heat index and just
like it was just pure torture.
So that's the closest all time
but in the last few years, it
was Oz or Highland. It's just a combination of the physical exert years, it was
just the combination of the
physical exertion, the
humidity, the heat, and the
tiredness all combined was I
felt pretty damn overheated.
Was Azure Highland three got
them get out on pushing the
cold side recently for you or
have you been colder recently?
That was not super cold. I
felt like um and this is one where I feel like I had a you know, have you been cold the green zone shrink. Yes, I've
when it's cold out, I'm like,
yeah, you know, maybe I don't
need to go out there. Uh you
know. So yeah, I think I've let
the green zone shrink a bit but
it wasn't super duper cold in my
opinion. I was cold but I
wasn't I was uh more overheated
with our first Oz or Highland than I was uh the middle of the you know, you're not dressed for the cold. So, it's less of
a factor. So, you know, you
you you you might be carrying
something throughout your
lifetime that helps you in that
direction. Would you say? Gotta
assume as much um people that
grew up in the equatorial
tropics could probably do a lot
better than I can and I can do
a lot better you've had a lot of sunburns or
super dry conditions. When have
you hit those maxes in your
life and when have you pushed
those green zones gone towards
tipping points on on the
moisture spectrum in the last
three years? Last three years.
Let me think if I've been soaked
and just sitting in my soaked
I'm really glad that I played a lot of football as a kid you know, you're not going to have a cumulative effect or or whatnot. Um going back. I mean
football. I'm really glad that
I played a lot of football as a
kid because just totally soaked
and miserable and muddy and you
just eventually you'd love it.
So, when you go out to practice
or a game and you know it's
going to be crappy weather, you
literally just jump into the
biggest puddle you can just to
get it over with and then, you
know, you kind of learn that
sort of philosophy or. That's like pushing your comfort zone right before the game.
That's a great example is that you're trying out of the locker
room. It's going to suck.
But as soon as you get into it and get dirty and get warmed up
internally, you know, playing the game, it's not going to matter.
So just to break it mentally dive into a wet cold puddle to say,
all right, my green zone, just I'm pushing it now. I know how to push it.
I'm going to do it right now. Jump in the puddle. Yep. There you go.
How about, uh, on the dry side,
you ever been anywhere that was like parts dry, arid, you know,
the type of stuff where your feet and your skin,
your hands can get
kind of so dry that they get painful your lips your eyes okay yes a little bit
growing up in Colorado because it's pretty damn dry there but I definitely
remember in the winter in Indiana and the Midwest generally pretty freaking
dry you got some hard water a lot of limestone and all that wind you could I've been to the US generally pretty freaking dry. You got
some hard water, a lot of
limestone and all that wind.
You could definitely get wind
burn and I learned quickly
don't lick your lips, you know
because you're just going to
get the worst chapped lips
ever. So, I've not really done
any desert survival sort of
thing by any means in terms of very low humidity or very dry.
But, uh, you know, dry cold is sucks.
And I've had a lot of that.
Yeah.
Yeah, totally.
And you know, the moisture thing, definitely the depth, the excess side in this case
is, is what you worry about.
Cause when the temperature starts going down and the humidity or you're
just soaking wet and soaking clothes, you don't have shelter, you can't start fire.
It's a typical survival topic, right?
Protecting against hyperthermia.
So moisture and temperature really compound.
That's the environment coming right after you.
Okay. We didn't mean to save it to last, but it worked out well.
Let's let's talk about energy.
And we're talking about energy like optimal is, you know, you're, you're well rested,
energized and, and the deficit side is easy to understand.
It's you know, you're getting tired
and then you're getting exhausted, right?
But the excess side, you know, you're overstimulated,
you're jittery, you're over-energized.
That's not a good state to be in either
in certain times and places.
When have you hit those kind of extremes?
Lately and maybe rational thing yesterday. like uh or I'm just like I wrote
I've been fasting for a couple of days. I've been fasting for
a couple of days. I've been
fasting for a couple of days.
I've been fasting for a couple
of days. I've been fasting for
a couple of days. I've been
fasting for a couple of days.
I've been fasting for a couple
of days. I've been fasting for
a couple of days. I've been
fasting for a couple of days.
I've been fasting for a couple
of days. I've been fasting for a big adrenaline spike. There's other hormones and other aspects. And just simply being
hangry, just being kind of irritable, I'm sure has rolled in that a little bit.
So I would say from a temperament, like over aggressive.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, hang on, hang on. We're talking about energy. Let's leave temperament.
Sorry. Let's leave temperament. Sorry. Let's leave temperament.
Cause they, they do, they blend together.
Obviously you can't separate them,
but we're going to try to analyze this in these dimensions.
Over-energized can swing quickly to exhaustion, right?
You get hyper alert for too long.
You're not going to just, you're not going to come off of the red side of the
dial, like the 10 on our screen right now.
You're not going to be hitting that 10.
And then when the extra energy wears off, it slides back to a nice straight
up five on the dial, you're going to drop to the opposite side, that
swinging nature of
The energy spectrum like I guess the other ones they don't really behave that way, right? Well, I guess externally
You know the temperature right in your fear and conditions where it's super hot during the day and getting pretty cold again at night That's tough, right? That'll exhaust you so I guess that one does behave that way if you're in the right climate. But internally, that energy from a lot excess swings back on you, doesn't it? Do you feel that during Rationer Ruin?
I have not been, if we were just gonna use the scale, the one to 10, I have not been below a three,
except one night, and that was this past Saturday night.
You know, actually went fishing, didn't work out, whatever.
It was still a fun time.
I came back, but I was so tired.
It was only like 9.30 or 10.
It felt like it was three in the morning.
So that was a total drop of energy. Totally blew out. I also went for like a three mile hike earlier
that day. Drove three hours round trip. So that was a huge swing negative of energy. However,
the rest of Rationer Ruin, I've been able to keep my low energy level at like a four or or even higher. Um and again, I
don't want to conflate the two because we'll talk about why they're separate but my physical
energy I feel like has been pretty steady and pretty damn good during rational ruin.
It's it's my mental aspect that's kind of a day wire. Well, energy includes mental energy. That's for sure. You
have the mind power to get things done or you're energized so they can swing to excess and to
deficit, right? You can be mentally exhausted even if you physically do anything all day, right?
But true. Oh yeah. When we talk about temperament, the sixth survival spectrum, that's, you know, a better name for that might actually be
fear, because that's what you have either an, you know,
a deficit in, which I would call apathy in a
survival situation, right? All these other things start to go into the red
on you, and then you get apathetic,
and you could definitely get apathetic if you're hypothermic, right?
So that's, you know, put cold goes directly to apathy in if it gets extreme apathy.
But moving back towards the green, you're just anxious.
Then you're in the green. You're calm. You're patient.
You're you're you're handling your emotions and then excess fear, like that,
or I'm sorry, it's going to go from, uh, apathy, but you know, a negative deficit and then it's
going to go to your comfort zone, calm, clear patient, then it's going to swing into anxious
and then all the way up to panic has
has anything we've done in Azure
Highlands hit those needles for
you and maybe you can tell us in
your life when you've hit either
of those needles in a way that
you knew it was bad and you
didn't like it. Yeah, when we
were doing the dinosaur trek,
the anxiety was getting up to the seven or eights not because of how I felt then, oh my god, this hour or two hours or three hours and we get turned
around and then all of a sudden
my mind's like, oh my god,
what's going to happen? What's
going to happen? I'm like, so I
had to be like, look out. We're
so close to everybody. We're
not literally lost 50 miles in
the wood and we're going to die.
So, but I did start to slip in
a little bit of panic of oh
**** Oh man. What happens if I
spray my ankle here or I do
have a heat here or I do
have a heat stroke or I do have
or one thing you told me later
which I'm glad he didn't say at
that time was oh yeah by the
way there's a lot of underground
hornet nests here if one of us
had stepped on that it got
stung 40 times it would have
been a pain in the ass to try
to drag out medical help. So
anyway that I totally thought of that at the time. And I saw your condition and said, you know, let's wait to see if we kick up time for jokes.
Probably not a good time for jokes. So good assessment there because it was compounded
because let's go back. You had less to eat. You've been hydrating, but it was really hot
out. So you were, you know, the needle was heading to the deficit on water while we were doing that.
Temperature, you already talked about,
85 degrees or warmer.
We had gone all night and arrived at objective gruff
at Dave's house and got very little sleep
and energies were, you know, running low.
It was beautiful day out.
So it wasn't like it was raining on us.
But four other of this survival spectrum
were already getting tested.
And you got yourself in that situation and pushed the,
you know, the excess, you know, there's excess on.
I got it. I got another point on that.
I just, I kind of knew this inherently,
but this is really pulling it out right now.
Yeah, I had let my guard down because we had gotten to objective gruff. We had actually eaten some great food.
I mean, I remember that oatmeal with the blueberries and everything at the NBC homestead.
And so then after that, after we had all kind of settled in and I kind of like let my guard down. Didn't sleep or fully rest, but an hour or two of chilling.
Well, you say like your guard down.
What you're really saying is you were your needles were all getting back into
heading straight up on the gauge.
You're getting back to comfort zone and everything.
I thought I was like I had started to get in there.
And so when I went back into the red zone, it was kind of like an extra punch to the face. I started to to get in there and
cumulative comprehensive effect.
Now there's other spectrum scales that you can measure
for how you're reacting to survival situations.
Like we could we could have one of these dials for pain,
but pain only starts in the green and starts heading to excess, right?
You're without pain, zero on the dial would be straight up and it would just go, you know, to excess, right?
A little bit of pain, a lot of pain, but that's a dimension that doesn't swing into the other side, right?
You know, so for listeners out there, there's probably other spectrum that we could consider
very interested in seeing your comments and what you're thinking about along the lines of food You know outside of the of the food water temperature energy
moisture and and temper or temperament that we talked about here and and
But when I thought about this and I said well, these are the six
That really drive preparation prepping to find a way to be in the right place to be prepared in the right way so that you're not your needles aren't getting thrown into the red when something
You know a crisis hits right yep
It could be other dimensions like this love to hear from listeners on what their thoughts are on that But I thought about most of them are just they don't resemble
But you know from one side deficit to one side excess these six we think do
But again, you know excess food excess water excess energy
But again, you know, excess food, excess water, excess energy,
right? Those are, you know, excess moisture, really dry.
Those aren't necessarily the most dangerous side of the dials. Those, those tilt to the deficit side, right?
But temperature swings both ways. And I would argue temperament does.
If you get apathetic, you're not afraid and you're too exhausted, too wet, tired, hungry, thirsty, and mentally and physically drained
to, you know,
take care of the next step to live in the now and to solve the problem at hand.
That apathy could be, you know, a contributing factor to a deadly situation.
Certainly can. And imagine when stuff actually hits the fan if a family member was hurt really bad
or even killed or even if you had to evacuate and leave your dog behind or there's just going to be
so many emotional things going on as well as literally in your face that you know you want to
have at least a little bit of wiggle room or the ability to get back you know maybe you want to have at least a little bit of wiggle
room or the ability to get back.
You know, maybe you're going to
hit that nine or a ten out of
anxiety.
That's just how it's going to
be.
But can you quickly recover, get
your bearings and try to get
back into the green zone?
That's a little bit why we do
these exercises.
I'll tell you that and just
other and going back to preparedness. Generally, you can do these panic about it. You're panicked about it, you're in danger pulling your own security.
Absolutely.
Great point.
And other types of prepping just all feed into these. Now, could we find another one or two? Maybe I'll try to think of any, but it's pretty comprehensive.
I feel like this list of six.
It's pretty comprehensive, I feel like, this list of six. Yeah, well, thanks for hashing it out for me.
It's the first time we've done it.
We talked about it in previous episodes,
kind of just as a brainstorm.
But here are the six survival spectrums, the survival spectra
in the plural.
I love to hear what people think about it.
Now, you said last Saturday night,
we were running Rationer Ruin, Azure Highland 4 right now now, month long exercise, the longest we've ever done by a lot.
Usually the other other ones were just, you know, a two or three day event.
This one's all month.
You're so you're running a deficit on food.
And for various reasons, you're running it, you know, on the X, XS side of energy and maybe a little bit on the excess side of agitation, anxiousness
on the temperament scale while we were fishing.
And that brought about a lot of conversations about in a, in, in, in most scenarios that
you personally are planning for survival fishing is not part of your tool
sets not going to be part of your tool set. Is that does that stand is your position or
are you are you looking in hindsight and saying hey I had a couple of my needles in the red
and and and maybe maybe you know there is a place for it in your tools, survival toolbox.
I'll say this.
A lot of time, the truth comes out
when I have the full gauge.
So I still believe it's a pretty dumb idea
to go out fishing on the shore if there are literally marauders out there or people that'll kill you or stick you up. you're going to have some idea you know, how about this? If there's an economic collapse
like the Great Depression but
it's not just people getting
shot everywhere, then yeah, you
lose your job. You should go
out fishing as often as you
can. You ain't got much better
to do. You can supplement maybe
your storable food. Great
situation to be prepped for and
you can consider that your own
SHTF but on the other hand, if
the power's been out for almost any time but especially if it's you know, you're not going to just I just feel like that is just so risky. That's it. What are your thoughts there?
It entirely depends on the type of crisis you're facing entirely.
Are you in a without rule of law environment or an excessive rule environment?
It depends. It's completely completely depends.
But the reason I asked you to describe that is to give a little window
into what we're dealing with on rational ruin, but also to think about, you know, you talk
about the people in a fairly dense population area, their green zones, they're not a prepper
and they are not an outdoors types of person. They've they're not a prepper and they are not an outdoors types of person They they're not a physical type of person. They haven't ever ever pushed themselves. They have
Green zones that are tiny little needles and you know these people you see them in social media
You know, it's in the commercials. It's in popular culture though
slightest
thing but the
You know the colloquial first world problem thing starts to put them on tilt
when they're in it out of their safe space out of their tiniest of comfort zones and
in the first week of a calamity
There's gonna be so many people pushing through
tipping points and getting deprivations and excesses that
they've never had to deal with that it puts fear into you.
You should put fear into all of us if you're near them.
I think that's what compounds your opinion on fishing itself, at least where you live.
Yeah, just uh people are so
volatile and I'm seeing what
happens to me when I'm I'm
still eating. I'm still eating
uh more than 6000 calories a
week and after just one week,
I'm more aggressive. I'm more
like, hey, I want what I want.
That's not necessarily a bad thing. Sometimes I'm a little too passive or too nice.
So let's just say I'm getting some things done at work
that I should have got done before,
but I also got to make sure I'm not a jerk about it.
But that's a good thing.
But if everyone's trying to rush to get gas
and the
pumps stop working or there's
huge lines or rationing fights
are going to break out. There
could be shootouts. My point is
if it starts to even get to
that point, I don't even want
to be near any humans hardly at
all. Just so much volatility,
especially that first
week or two and um yeah, I want
to be tougher myself but a good
secondary effect of this
rationale ruin is like wow, if
this is affecting me and I'm I'm
not saying I'm the toughest guy
but I'm somewhat tough and I've
been trying to expand my
comfort zones whether working
out or mental strength and all that over the many years the fasting over the last year or I've been out of my house for a while now. I've been out of my house for a while now. I've been out of my house for a while
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now. I've been out of my house now. I've been out Yeah, yeah, I mean if the pharmaceuticals I will put them into the red
When they come off of them an entirely different scale, right? So yeah
Absolutely. Well, I think
Rasha ruin and all the Azure Highlands are for me an opportunity to start hitting tipping points that I haven't been at for a while
to and to try to accomplish something that's usually manually,
physically hard to do something practical hand, you know,
try to do something hard with my hands in the outdoors to,
to, to, to trained in survival skills while some of these needles are tipping
into the red is, is useful for useful for me to just as a confidence builder
You know I'm a little bit thirsty. I'm a little bit hungry. I'm really really tired and
I know I'm getting a little bit apathetic and just mentally say all right. I'm crossing that boundary
I've been there before I
Got to correct the situation. I got to just stay calm and keep that temperament
Whatever you do if any of these are
are vital or
if any of these are
You know
First among their peers. I would say it's temperament the mental don't let the fear set in
Don't let the apathy set in stay on that green zone in temperament that's what it appears. I would I'm like, yo, Yoda says fear
something I I need that's something I
I need to practice every day
and one thing you've talked
about is if you don't exercise
these skills or this
competency or just this
toughness, it shrinks and every
day that I'm not trying to
improve. I know I'm getting
worse but you also can't drive
yourself too crazy but uh but yeah, I glad we're doing Ration of Ruin and uh looking forward to
going fishing again getting my revenge on them fish. Now when you're dealing with these things
it's important to remember in 2025 that a hundred years ago most people didn't have electricity
right and and and start picking major technological milestones going all the
way back to the ice age, right? You know, where shelter was less, less affording of
your comfort zone than it is, you know, even even 300 years ago, you know, with wooden
architecture houses before that, but go on back to the Paleolithic if you want.
But humankind is able to survive.
We are here today because, you know, way, way, way back in time
are biological and behavioral mechanisms to maintain that balance
in the spectrum's comfort zone.
You know, we're capable of a lot.
What I'm trying to say is we're capable
of much, much more than we've challenged.
You know, there's countless stories of, you know,
air crews during World War II that bailed out
and had to survive for months, you know,
and, you know, lost on the ocean in a raft
after your ship sunk and all those, you know,
crazy extreme survivor stories, right
But the people could do it
some of them could
but if you again if I come back to if you panic or
Everything's gone wrong and you're you're just absolutely apathetic
You're not taking care to survive for yourself
Then you know if you don't have the temperament everything else is you're not taking care of your life, you're not being apathetic, you're not taking care to survive
for yourself, then you know, if you
don't have the temperament,
everything else is a real, real
problem. So, Ratchet and Ruin,
right now. How you doing? I feel
like I'm doing okay based off my weigh-ins and I'm not going to share the
spreadsheet tonight but maybe next week and definitely at our
Friday wrap ups. I'll start bringing the spreadsheet to
share but I've been keeping track of my weight first thing
in the morning and right before I go to sleep. Now, it looks
like I've lost about between two and a half to three pounds. One thing I've noticed is the
weight fluctuations are huge. So if I've gone 36 plus hours without eating and
then I eat the storable food, a lot of sodium, a lot of carbs, and just food
generally because I didn't have any, I can gain eight to ten pounds in just 24
hours and then it'll quickly fall right back off and
So there's a lot a lot of swings and before ration ruin, you know, you always gain and lose weight throughout the day
I would usually about a four pound swing four to five pound
So almost doubled the volatility of weight, but it's also on a quite a downtrend. My energy levels are
I'm not on a tight but it's also on a quite a downtrend. My energy levels are equal or better both from what I'm
tracking on my spreadsheet as well as just what I feel like.
Um my workouts are equal or better. My mental clarity and
aggressiveness at work is more. So, I'm getting like anxious or tweaking
out there but I will say again
sometimes I'm concerned about
over revving this first week or
two and then by week three or
four I might swing back to the
apathetic so that's a little
bit of a preview that I'm I'm
running my RPMs pretty high
right now and I don't feel too
bad about it but I'm also like, how long can I keep this up?
So you had said when we kicked this off that 2500 calories is your normal, what you use
to keep at your normal weight.
So somewhere around 17,500 per week. We've cut our diets to 6,000 in emergency food supplies plus supplementation.
I'm doing the muscle milk, 160 calories times four or five a day, even on the no solid food days.
even on the no solid food days. So this is a deficit without a doubt.
And we're in week one and a quarter
of a four week exercise.
Do you anticipate this deficit to continue to provide you
with perhaps some of the benefits you just said,
or when can you foresee starting to hit real deficiency, you know, what's the difference between you with perhaps some of the benefits you just said or
when when can you foresee
starting to hit, you know, real
deficiency tipping point on the
hunger scale. It's this is
uncharted territory for me,
which is what I'm stoked about.
Like I said, I only started
fasting about it a little bit
more than a year ago and a lot
more of a keto and a lot losing a pound or two a week for the next 8, 10, 12 weeks and in theory again
in theory would have no negative physical effects. Now once I get to that
level and my body fat drops 10, 12 percent or lower start eating some
muscle away. Now a huge thing is vitamin supplementation. Now, a huge thing is vitamin
supplementation. I have been
supplementing with vitamins,
fish oil, cod liver oil. So,
even though my calories are
quite a deficit, I have been
able to get some of those
nutrients in there. So, I feel like I have, this is a, you the I'm not joking. I'm not joking. I'm not joking. I'm not joking. I'm not joking. I'm not joking.
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bit of extra love handles because an extra 20, 30, 40,000 calories of fat on my body
could be super useful as a prepper. I might not have washboard abs, but I'd rather be
able to go without food or limited food for a couple months if I needed to. I've never
tested that though. So,
now, I'm really going to, you
know, test it and we'll see what
it's like in the next few
weeks. I'm pretty much right
now at the furthest I've been
right about now. So, the
uncharted territory,
especially starting next week, I
think. Yeah. Yeah. Me too. Me
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And then therefore, the cost per calorie,
Mountain House is much more expensive than Ready Hour.
It is, and I'm going to try to put together cost analysis.
I need to figure out when I'm gonna be able to do this,
but I need to do it.
I'm gonna try to figure out when I'm gonna be able to do this, but I need to do it I'm gonna try to figure out a cost per calorie essentially
Between ready hour and Mountain House. So if you were gonna eat, let's just say you ate 2,000 calories a day
No fasting none of that one week seven days at 2,000 calories days
14,000 calories already our versus 14,000 hour or 14,000 calories of of uh
mountain house. I I said I would pay twice as much for mountain house per
calorie but I got a feeling it's probably gonna cost like two and a half
or three times. Yeah. Yeah. I was I'm right there with you. It's it's it's
you're paying for it. You're getting what you pay for. And we
talked about ready our and how we felt eating it. And if you know what depends on how you
prep depends on how your plans are. It depends on your means. So throwing throwing a chunk
of change into Bitcoin and watching it run up might be a way to be eating a product like
Mountain House that does seem to have more to offer in certain regards, but not in cost.
Not in cost, but it's still last 25 plus years based off the packaging. One way I look at I'm not sure if I'm talking about packaging and and one way
I look at it, I like to tear my
survival food. You know the at
the first layer is just my
pepper pantry and this is stuff
that I use in my regular day and
I just have a whole year supply
of it and I rotate it. Number
two would be something like
Mountain House like hey, this is
the best version. It's also the most portable version. So I wouldn't necessarily eat that straight away,
but that's kind of a higher tier. And then not saying ready hours the worst or anything like
that, but that's kind of like the base layer where, oh, I got six months of ready hour. Also,
I can share with people. I can give it to people. If I had a friend, guest, family member that was
with me for whatever reason, I needed to barter it.
But on the other hand, maybe I would personally eat the ready hour, but barter the mountain
house because my neighbor is a little more sensitive to the taste and I could get way
more.
I don't know.
Something to think about to have different kind of layers.
I guess that the bottom layer would be like spam and Twinkies.
So you got to have that supply if you're a prepper, I guess.
I don't know how long that would be edible, but
yeah, more to follow on the product review of Mountain House.
Jerry's still out. Still a lot left to be eaten this week,
but we're going to proceed through Mountain House this week.
Next week is XMREs. We're going to hit the meals ready to eat that'll you know skyrocket on the cost
dimension and we're gonna see what it tastes like but
the portioning and packaging
might be
Might have advantages
This is what we're doing this month. And the last week of the month,
we're going to put those three, you know, self stable brand name options up against
Dave Jones is homemade. dehydrated food, we're going to we saved up for the last week,
the endurance on that expected obviously be lower. He's not producing stuff with additives that take
it to a 30-year shelf life. But that's what we're doing this month for
ration or ration ration or ration. Either you're rationing or you're headed
towards ruin. So looking forward to getting with you and James and Dave on Friday
and see what we really think about Mountain House this week. Yes sir, the second week review. Be
sure to tune in that, tune into that on Prepper Broadcasting Network this Friday. Although I will
say I kind of want to go fishing this Friday evening around sundown because I think it should
be good, some good fishing. So maybe right after we're done. I'll hop in
So but really I think this has been a great show or coming up on a little bit more than an hour
Do you want to say Sloan six says stay with the dog probably talking about?
The situation where I said you had to leave your dog
I would do everything possible never ever ever to leave my dog. I'm not going to leave my dog. I'm not going to leave my dog.
I'm not going to leave my dog.
I'm not going to leave my dog.
I'm not going to leave my dog.
I'm not going to leave my dog.
I'm not going to leave my dog.
I'm not going to leave my dog.
I'm not going to leave my dog.
I'm not going to leave my dog.
I'm not going to leave my dog.
I'm not going to leave my dog. I'm not going to leave my dog. Attic or in your garage attic 120 130 degrees in there go in there
Just lay in there or even do some slight calisthenics
Nothing crazy
Go at it build that build that comfort zone and keep it strong
You know you might think you could do something that you did five ten twenty years ago But if you haven't done it lately, maybe can't. Gotta keep yourself tested if you're Dan.
So awesome show.
Anything else you wanna hit on?
Yeah, it's important to say that there's the green zone,
there's the tipping point, they're stepping into the red
and then there's doing stupid stuff that can get you hurt.
So don't do the stupid stuff.
Again, we are supplementing with vitamins minerals protein
this whole month of ration are ruined because we're not trying to replicate
absolute deprivation and food. It's not healthy. Same thing with heat. Same thing with cold. Same
thing with miserable conditions. It's important to get out there. Test yourself. Hit those
tipping points, but you gotta be wise about it. You gotta have a buddy system. You have to have
backup plans. Right now, I know I could go to the grocery store if I had to, right? Like I'm not
putting myself in an all or nothing survival situation just to try to, you know, get extreme and touch those poles and risk and do any risk with the exercise, right?
That's my, you know, disclosure to our audiences. We're not advocating to go and do anything dangerous.
Don't do this at home if it's not safe in your health and your conditions
But another just to wrap up even if you do hit those tipping points and you're exercising it
How long before the comfort zone shrinks back up again?
starts to tighten up you haven't pushed yourself and and when you cross those boundaries in the future
Could it be happening on a day that the entire future danger heat map is black on red crisis now? It's going down. Your prepping plans are in effect.
If you're not ready for that, if you haven't pushed yourselves to deprivations or excesses,
it's going to be a lot harder under those circumstances to get used to it again. Well said you need a balance. You
need some reserves for when
stuff really does go down but
you also can't be just sitting
on your laurels because every
day you're not working. Uh
you're getting weaker. So you
don't burn out but don't be
apathetic. Good luck. It's the
human condition. Find that good
balance. It's all about finding
that balance,
but also expanding what you can do
and what you can recover from when you get some bad news
or something bad happens physically, mentally.
Bounce back.
Keep on prepping.
Keep on grinding.
All right, future Dan.
Great show.
Looking forward to hitting some more tipping points with you
in the near future on Ration Ration. Ruin Ben.
Deal. I'm down.
We'll talk to you guys on Friday with the week to review.
Until then, enjoy your food, because I'll be dreaming of some tonight. the the Thanks for watching!