The Prepper Broadcasting Network - Patriot Power Hour #308 feat. NBC Guy & Intrepid Commander

Episode Date: June 11, 2025

LA Riots; 250th Army Anniversary Parade; Ration or Ruin Cost Comparison & More w/ Ben, FD, Dave & James on the 308th episode of PPH ! 

I'm in a purpose, should I email you, should I put this on your action item list? Ah, look... You decide your own level of involvement! We are the Prepper Broadcasting Network. The You are now listening to the Patriot Power Hour, the newest show of the Prepper Broadcasting Network. This live episode features the situational awareness you need to practice self-reliance and independence. Introducing your hosts, Ben, the Breaker of Banksters,

and Future Dan, the editor of futuredanger.com. June 10th, 2025, episode 308 of the Patriot Power Hour. This is Ben, the Breaker June 10th, 2025, episode 308 of the Patriot Power Hour. This has been the breaker of banksters here with future Dan and a couple special guests. We got the one and only intrepid commander as well as

NBC guy, Dave Jones. How y'all doing tonight? Hey everybody. Doing good. Going on. Alright. Hey, we're not going to belabor the point. This is actually a very serious, important episode. All of our episodes are important, of course, but got all types of breaking news. And with all four of us on here, I just want to hand it over to Dave Jones. Dave Jones, go through this security column on futuredanger.com. Starting with this up front, we're going to talk for a long time about it, but we want to just hit these headlines.

Have at it, sir. This is the second column. In future danger, federal immigration raids face rioting in LA. Dozens arrested. Riots erupt in LA ICE facility. National Guard, LAPD confront rioters in Los Angeles amid ICE raids. Los Angeles war zone, insurrectionist mobs attacking cops, set fires, block 101 freeway. California anti-ice riots take over the freeway downtown as driverless cars are lit on fire. Los Angeles riots continue for a fourth day. Massive looting breaks out in LA riots. 96 arrests, failure to disband.

14 looted arrests, one arrest each. Two officers injured and taken to the hospital. Two officers injured and taken to the hospital. Federal property military reinforced. Marine battalion deploys to LA without arrest power unless POTUS invokes the Insurrection Act. Second Battalion's 7th Marines move to augment the support of DOD protecting federal facilities and property. Marines arrive in LA. National Guard Federalized. National Guard Federalized All Democrat governors release a joint letter responding to the president deploying the National Guard in California.

California sues POTUS over National Guard deployment. Governor of California asks court to block the president from using troops to enable deportation raids. Foreign Blacks Ops suspected FBI arrests another Chinese national student for smuggling pathogens into the United States. Student from a biological institute in Wuhan, China, sends four packets containing biological material linked to roundworms to the University of Michigan laboratories. Protests violently suppressed. come to riot in the US. The army 250th anniversary parade in DC will be met with force.

Tens of thousands of protesters, protesters fueled by Los Angeles riots spread to New York, Chicago, Dallas, and Atlanta. Brutal political violence ensues. The Department of Justice investigates who is funding the LA riots, providing body armor and face masks. New Jersey Congresswoman shouts, We are at war at a political rally. L.A. Mayor threatens more mob violence and insurrection unless ICE withdraws from Los Angeles. War with China starts. China sends two aircraft carriers deeper into the Pacific for the first time ever.

War with Russia starts. Ukraine strikes Russian missile bases, damaging launchers. Griffin Lightning. NATO exercise with 26,000 troops in Poland and the Baltic states. National Guard activated. National Guard deploys for violent anti-ice riots erupt in Los Angeles. President calls up 2,000 National Guard troops to counter illegal immigration riots in California, bypassing the governor. POTUS orders an additional 2,000 National Guards to Los Angeles as the riots continue. Great job, Dave. That is possibly the most articles in a single column. I agree. Is that true, future Dan? What are your thoughts there? And then of

course we could talk about any and all of these articles, but future Dan, what's your thoughts there? That is the biggest. That is the biggest I've ever seen it 2020 was the last time you'd see that much in one place. I believe it and Trump and this is one of the articles and we can go in so many ways. I'll let you

guys decide but Trump spoke today and said in 2020, I was waiting for the governors to act. They didn't and I promised I would never do that again. I promised myself I would never let that happen and well certainly not happen. Dave Jones I know you just spoke a whole lot but what are your initial thoughts? You went through all of those. How concerned are you right now? Well there's so many things I want to talk about and first of all LA why are they going to lower Alabama? Different LA. Oh, okay. Okay. So the biological

Hazards, I think this is the second or third person the FBI has arrested in Connection with something like that. And it's all against crops and livestock. So why is China putting people into this country with this kind of stuff now? It's a bio war. What do you think, James? That's a bio war. Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely. You know why we don't do something with Wuhan, you know Mess up their computers cyber attack. When are we gonna do the asymmetric warfare? Like China's been doing for years Intrepid commander I want to get some of your thoughts both on China and what's going on in lower Alabama. I'm going to give you guys a money metric because I think that's a it's more than a money metric but it's an important metric to to I think explain not only what I'm feeling about it but what the country's feeling about it.

Our sponsor Lima Tango Survival I was talking to him earlier tonight and he yeah the reason and overwhelmed with orders. So I wish I could attribute all that to everything we've been doing here at PBN, but something tells me it's got a lot to do with what the hell's going on all over the globe right now. You know, my, my position with China has been, I mean, you know, if you create the precursors for fentanyl and kill 100,000 Americans a year with it, right? I don't know. What else? What else do you need? Did what other kind of attack do you need? You know, it's clear that they're, they're going to chip away at us. And, but I'll give them credit. They're really good at pushing the button as, as close to launch as they can.

Aren't they? I mean, they're really good at that. They really are good at that. What I'm interested to see in the streets is, you know, is this going to linger? Is Saturday going to be something or is it just going to be another one of these sad sort of left-wing protests? I really have trouble believing that, number one, the governors of these states are going to let these things get out of hand like they did in 2020, particularly those governors who are siding with the right.

And also then Donald Trump in places like Chicago, him keeping his nose out of it. Because I think we all know where it goes. We've seen it years ago We know exactly how it all goes It's I opened the week up this week by by announcing the the great big You know sale in LA because it's a shopping spree in LA right now I see the people running through Adidas stores and CVS's with but bags and boxes full of things and that yeah, it is what it is with bags and boxes full of things and yeah it is what it is. It's a summer shopping spree out over there now. It's got nothing to do with ice. I don't

know if you guys saw the one Latino lady who had the balls to go out there with a sign and explain to the rioters how one of her loved ones was murdered by an illegal alien. She's legally here. And the crowd shouted her down. Some dude ran into her with his bike. It was a real honorable show of the mostly peaceful protests. Yeah. Well, Trump said it today. He said, if I did not intervene, this

would be way worse than it is right now. It'd be burning down like the Palisades, just different parts of town and more of a man-made. And long story short, I hope nothing, not only in LA, but other areas don't expand. I've been listening to a lot of Alex Jones lately. I'll admit it. I'll be proud of it. And he said for the last six months that. Um I've been listening to a lot of Alex Jones lately. I'll

admit it. I'll be proud of it and he said for the last 6 months that after Trump won and they couldn't stop him and he was sworn in that they're going to have a summer of trying to burn everything down. Number one and we've already seen that

them try that but number two when that happens, more about someone trying to prime the pump and have some sort of pipe bombs at one of these protests or shooting them and trying to say, oh yeah, it was some Trump supporter did that and I'm way more worried about that at that point. What do you, future Dan, maybe I'll go to you first. What do you think about the potential for a spark bringing this to that next level? Yeah, you know, in fact, I think we were saying that about these circumstances as early as alex jones on paper Pager power power that during the time frame of the election at trump's

election You know, we talked about you know, riots are on the horizon in the summer of 2025 And they're here. It's june. They're here. So And they're here. It's June they're here. So I Want to say inevitable but they're here and I got an announcement to make about the US Army's 250th anniversary parade I'm going I'm going I'm gonna get on the I'm going and getting on the ground footage

And if there's any kind of if there's a guy protests or violence in in in the vicinity that I happen to make it do I'm going down would be something to see in DC. 5,000 Army guys. Tanks, artillery pieces, everything. It's going to be awesome. Awesome. That is going to be awesome. Something of note for the listening audience, and we probably any time between now and Saturday that anybody gets behind a mic on PBN, we should probably mention it, is the no kings dot org website. No, this

is the actual protest website. They have a they have a they have a map up where you can go see in your immediate area with what's planned and what time and that kind of thing just in case you know you wind up driving around downtown and turn into a Line of idiots with gas masks on or whatever whatever kind of flavor you get around your way. You know what I mean? I feel like everybody The day well and now a profile of pros protester you know, for each region, I feel like. Yeah. And you know, when we were talking before the show started and, uh, you thought it

was going to be a big nothing, but you know, when they did, uh, St. George or fentanyl, those protests, right. It was over a hundred cities and I mean as small a town as Johnstown, Pennsylvania had police cars set on fire and it's like how did they do this? You know all at once. They rioted in Richmond for like three weeks straight. No lie Yeah, three three weeks in this city. The police were walking down rioters and and whatever mostly peaceful protesters You know, yeah, it was it was a stained effort here in here in Richmond, Virginia So I'm I'm thinking this is good because they practice that

You know, whatever whatever they did the last time they're gonna do it even better this time Dave Yeah, can I ask you a question about a law enforcement perspective question about just riding in general? Yep, so I'm almost ready to predict what you're gonna say, but go ahead. Yeah. What's the ratio of law enforcement officers in any given area jurisdiction to the population and where's that threshold where when too much breaks out simultaneously in the same area, we don't have and we can't afford to have police forces that can Put down riots when they start right?

What's what's that ratio? What's the ratio you'd expect and then you know, how many? Protesters who become rioters does it take to overwhelm a jurisdiction? Oh It's almost instantly they're overwhelmed. Back when I was in college, which was a long time ago, it was one police officer per thousand people. Now, it's more than that now, but it's not a lot more than that now. And when you look at sheriff's departments, you know, they're for the county and, and that county, you know, about the only thing they can do is protect the county jail and the county courthouse, that's it. They're not going to protect anything else.

they're not going to protect anything else. I mean, the vast majority of the US population obeys the law. So you don't need a huge police force and they can't afford it. So whenever it gets this crazy, they're overwhelmed almost instantly Hey, and I thought the question you were gonna ask is if a guy's wearing you know like paintball armor a protective mask a helmet You know things like that What do the riot police do?

Okay What do the riot police do? Okay. I might, I might wear that down near the mall in DC Saturday. Just be safe. Yeah, just in case. Just in case. Now they say you got to go through a bunch of security checkpoints. So they're going to be looking, they're going to be looking through all your bags and stuff. So I don't know. But yeah, it's a perimeter.

It's a perimeter with the fencing just like after j6. It's a security perimeter. And it's outside of that perimeter where, you know, you know, danger could lurk. It happened at jump first inaugural, you know, yep. The second inaugural was pretty quiet on that front. But, you know, the summer of 25, 25 is definitely trending towards, you know, looking like the summer of 2020 when, you know, the church of the presidents was burned barricades were around the white house. Yeah. I, it could go in that direction quickly. Yeah.

The president was evacuated to the, to the bomb shelter and the white house because they thought they were going to breach the perimeter. I mean, it was crazy. And, uh, so when someone is outfitted to where they can thwart all the riot gear and stuff like that, uh, it's an escalation of force. Okay. So they may say pepper spray everybody, but that guy with the protecting mask shoot him, you know, it's, and, and they can justify it because that guy, that one guy put on all the stuff that thwarts whatever your riot control was

He's got intent Yeah, he has intent likely you don't show up with a ballistic helmet a Protective mask and body armor unless you're you're intending to do something bad Dave another Another military question. I'd like to ask you. I don't know if your military career you were familiar with the mobilization of the guard or you know some of that happened during Katrina where I believe some of that time you were on active duty.

So when when guard are put onto the streets like this, that, you know, either they're issued ammo or they're not. Yes. Either they can, either they can lock and load their weapons or they can't, uh, rules of engagement are tightly, you know, one of the most important things that all those troops are getting briefed on to go in and, and when I was in the army, the squad leader, one of my squad leaders said, you know, the most important thing you need to know is whether, you know,

w w what does suit look like? What does the use of force? Unquestionably, what does it mean? I can use force. Yeah. How do you think those rules of engagement are tonight for the California National Guard in LA? Well, there's always one rule that trumps everything else. You have the right to defend yourself. So if you are threatened or you know, if there's violence being perpetrated against you, you can defend yourself.

If there's violence being perpetrated against you, you can defend yourself. And that defense is whatever you see as reasonable. Now let's hope that they're deploying military police units because they're very familiar with rules of engagement, lawful arrest, all that kind of stuff. Riot control. They're trained in riot control. They have. Yeah. I have an authority that neither infantry battalions and magazines, magazines are loaded.

Rounds are not chambered. Yeah. That that that's tonight in LA. Okay. Okay. That's that's wow. That's that's wow right there. A couple things I wanted to talk about. That's a Kent State waiting to happen. Yeah. Bad things could come of that. Yeah. So I was actually in a riot. I was a federal police officer in Fort McCoy, Wisconsin during the Cuban refugee program.

Carter said, let all the Cubans in and Castro opened up these prisons and insane asylums and let them in. So, um, we had a riot and there wasn't enough of the police or marshals. So we, we protected the lockup. Okay. And the order came down, unload your weapon because if you got into a tussle, they didn't want a loaded weapon out there, even though we had, you know, we had 38s, actually 357s, but six rounds. Okay. So we unload our weapons, but we had speed loaders. And I'm telling you, we could use those speed loaders quick and and we didn't have them on our belt we had them in our pockets yeah it was it was crazy

I maced a whole bunch of people I got a humanitarian award for I guess mason them instead of shooting them I don't know wow that's why I heard that one that and and something does go over the top and people do wind up getting shot I think that changes the dynamic is Saturday and everybody listening should prepare accordingly you know what I mean people get absolutely Saturday across the country with all these no Kings protests could some of them could be big some could be nothing you know what I mean yeah and that's why Jim wind up getting shot. I think that change game on that Chin's posted in the PBN back channel about this That that's what future danger is about is all these indicators could just die down

cool off headlines will fall off over time and they'll all turn back to blue or not Right and then they'll all turn back to blue or not. Right. Based off this map, it's a not, and there's lots of money, lots of organization behind this. Looking at this map. Yeah. They had, since Trump was elected to plan this, you know, they're just using this as, as the catalyst, just like they did for George Floyd. I mean, he died of a heart attack.

Well, look at these dots. Most of them are in the US, but there's some in Mexico and some in Canada. Vancouver, down in Baja, California, Toronto, Ottawa. What is that about? Another thing, maybe if you're a prepper, you is that? I'm like, what is that? I'm like, what is that? I'm like, what is that? I'm like, what is that? I'm like, what is that?

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I'm like, what is that? I'm like, what is that? I'm like, what is that? I'm like, and NBC guy, you were like, yes, same thing. So, uh yeah, this is hopefully something that in a week or two will have not gotten worse but I've heard that the week after uh so I guess about 10 days from now, not just uh this weekend but

the weekend after they're even hoping to have a bigger event so definitely Anything that any of you guys would if you were in Trump shoes Do differently you think he's handling this well? I don't know if there is much I'll tell you what I think it is conflating his birthday with the parade is is bait. The ice raids are going to escalate.

The timing of this Los Angeles ice raid, I don't think it was a mistake. It's before a very large demonstration of force. So now we're talking about demonstration of force holding at risk and, and, and, and working towards a situation where declaring an insurrection is, is, is factual, right? And I don't know if the Antifa are sane enough to not take the bait. Definitely not. They're going to go for it. They gotta go all in on this one like there. Oh yeah. Play poker eventually you your stacks running down, anteing up or hitting the

blinds. You're slowly but surely losing Democrats. They're in real bad shape. They need this. They got the money behind it. I feel like they got to go all out for it. Well, I think what they need is they need people to get killed by the military so that they want that. This is all Trump's fault. I told Gavin Newsom was right. Yeah, which is funny to say out loud. No, that's why I said when, when they said, uh, when, uh, future dance said

magazines loaded rounds, not chambered. I'm like, holy crap. Give them a three foot stick. Have the weapons in the rear ready to deploy if the shooting starts, but the first one to die, you know, I hate to say it, but the first one to die would, I would want to be a military person. I mean, and if you look at the, can you pull up the archive on federal property militarily reinforced Ben this hasn't this hasn't happened like this since at least the history of future danger to this degree

so you know very important distinction they're not going in there to put down riots that requires the insurrection act invoking an insurrection suspending posse comitatus. We're not we're not there yet, but we're getting close. The these troops are going and surrounding federal property. So that right. The federal police agencies, ICE, customer and border patrol, they don't have to defend their own buildings. And if anybody goes near those buildings and presents deadly

force, they could get shot that way, like starting tonight. Yeah. Dang. That's true. That's true. I mean, you know, I heard today that they're jumping through their rectums trying to get the rules of engagement. And I'm like, wait, this is already set down in manuals. You know, why are they changing it? Unless it was different during Biden than it is now, which possibly could be. But these guys are are especially military police. They are trained for riot control and demonstrations and all that kind of stuff. Hey, and what are our adversaries thinking? Dave, when I was in the 82nd airborne in 2000 with the hanging Chad drama and the Supreme

Court decision to validate Florida's elections and therefore George W. Bush won, we were activated under Operation Garden plot. My platoon was issued riot gear. We went out on the parade field and, and did the entire, you know, Roman Legion maneuver that was shields and how to, how to grab people that, you know, after you club them, you know, open the shield wall grab grab and zip tie people So so and we were on orders to deploy to The Military District of Washington, which is Washington DC where the president commands the DC National Guard

Directly and and we never got called they that didn't come of it But they were already concerned about that those plans operation garden plot It might be not be called that now But right there in there in effect all these yeah active duty army divisions are Definitely aware that at any moment they could be put into cities to put that put to put down riotous rebellion I'm hoping everything cools down, but I'm not sure that it will this month. No, I know. I think it's, I think it's all on the other side.

You know, it w we have put, you know, Trump has put the forces in there. Now it depends on what they do. So I, I think it's all up to them and I don't think it's going to turn out well. 700 Marines. Yeah, I was going to say right here, we're looking at Newsome files emergency restraining order after Trump activates additional National Guardsmen. the news here on Patriot Power Hour. I'm loving it. I think a good thing for the listeners to do in this situation is if they're in one of these areas where riots break out, uh, I had like a three piece combo that I used here in Richmond.

I don't know that it'll work as well five years moving forward, but brought the broadcastify app gave me the ability to listen into the fire department in Richmond. And I coupled that with obviously local news and I coupled that with social media. And if you're going to utilize social media, then you have to find out, you have to do at least a little research. Maybe I'll talk about this on my show tomorrow morning, on the hashtags that people are putting up. And I'm talking about the hashtags that people are putting up with their cell phones in the crowd.

Because the one godsend is that these, when these riots break out, people video, they take videos. So you can see in real time, what it helped me to do listening to those three things was I could figure out where in the city the protest began and then what direction the protest was headed. They were very far away from my house so I was never really that worried about it but it gave me the ability between listening to where the fire department was staging trucks, gave me the ability between listening to where the fire department was staging trucks, where they thought the protest was going to go, what the actual footage from the protesters was on Facebook Live, X Live, whatever. You might even consider getting the old Blue Sky

app. I don't know if you guys have heard about Blue Sky yet, but Blue Sky is the liberal Twitter now. So there's probably a lot of shit going on there But those three things really really helped Well to be honest what it did for me is it helped me sleep at night it helped me say All right. This thing is all the way across the river up on the north side of the city This is where they're heading down Cary Street or whatever the situation is. I don't have to worry about anything There's no action needed on my end. They're not going to make their way, you know, 10 miles to my house,

whatever the situation is. So that was a big deal for me for a few weeks in 2020, just sort of getting good at monitoring that movement. And like I said, the best thing to find out if you're going to monitor social media is sort of that. I know hashtags, no, hashtag no Kings hashtag no King protests right now is pretty big. I'm sure you'll find you'll get that kind of Intel on what people are doing and where they're at.

If you look that up right now for what's going on in LA. Yep. And that's for folks thing. Yep and that's for folks that were following along on video. We were sharing that website earlier. What was it? No Kings dot org. I think and it had the

map of not only marches but I guess some bigger rallies as well. I'm not even gonna go back to it. Screw them but long story short, there was was hundreds hundreds of locations So we're talking thousands of people organizing and working this and trying to draw in tens of thousands of others So very coordinated go ahead Dave No, I was I was just chuckling at you and and you know James gets to sell more t-shirts

you and and you know James gets to sell more t-shirts hey the drought on prepping is now gone the Trump effect remember we all was on the call today right now we're saying no you keep your prepping going just because he's in office we're gonna need it possibly more than ever and And are any of you on this line right now regretting any preps you made? I definitely have not. No, no. And I processed, well, I say I. I'm the unskilled labor, okay?

Maria processed 10 ducks today. We have them section quartered, they're cooling down and we got those ready to go in their freezer. That was today. And you know, if I had a prepper tip to give you guys, the hardest to process these animals, ducks is number one. They're just they're terrible turkeys are number two chickens number three Rabbits Pretty quick pretty easy, but nothing beats quail Quail is wham-bam. I think she can do a

Quail every six minutes Wow, yeah, I know. And without cutting her fingers off. Holy cow. In an ironic tie back to the news, because you're talking about butchering animals. We got news of like protests and people jumping on, you know, basically physically blocking ice raids in meat factories in Omaha, Nebraska tonight. Like those raids are going on. They are cleaning out car washes, clothing factories, meat packing, all the businesses that that put to work illegal labor.

And so they know they know what time it is. This is the mass deportations that were campaigned for and happening. And it's a strange tie back to current events from the quail processing at the Donestead. But I just wanted to get that in there. It's like the ICE raids, they're ramping up during this, not down.

These people, I'm not even going to say they got guts, they're just dumb as hell. Getting on US Marshall Suburbans. Yeah. Wow. They're lucky these guys got restraints. There could be some residual effects from all that too. I mean, you are talking about labor force affected, right? We're going to lose people from meat packing plants and all those

different jobs that's going to affect me probably just in the short term. Maybe though you never know. You know now you're getting into supply chain and all that kind of stuff. I will say this. I've worked in commercial insurance pretty much my entire career and the type of companies that will hire these illegals under the table just treat their employees so bad, they get hurt, they don't let them get their benefits, they will work them to the grindstone, no overtime, and not to mention safety hazards, and they're just scumbags.

Like the employers, they need to go after the employers as much. And well, that's what we're watching on this. This is a, I haven't seen this video yet. It's a, no, but why don't that guy just arrest him? Well, that's what I'm saying. Urban full. Yeah. I think the FBI will probably come for him. FBI is on it too now. Yep. Yeah. They got his face. Biometrics of face and gate the way you walk. Yeah, the hardest things to change my hunchback. Um, yeah, this is I've been seeing this video.

There's so many videos in out there. We could spend hours going through them all. Um, I'm going to be, you know, watching late tonight. See what's over there in LA, I guess it's 6pm. So it's not even sunset yet but uh hopefully nothing goes down tonight. Nothing goes down this weekend but future Dan you're gonna be in the District of Columbia Military District of Washington you said on Saturday. One question I have for you I didn't mean to laugh this is a very serious topic but you said you were gonna go there with some paintball armor and then a few minutes later Dave Jones says, yeah who would go to such

a thing armored up unless they had bad intentions? Obviously you don't have bad intentions. Obviously all four of us are peaceful and aren't going to have any vigilante justice or anything stupid like that either but tell us a little bit more maybe you can Dan about what you're going to be going there on Saturday. And are you actually going to armor up? Are you going to go through the checkpoints? Yeah. Yeah.

I'm going to go in and see the stuff up close and stay for the fireworks. But no, I was just joking. I'm not wearing that gear. But OK. I thought so. I just wanted to confirm. Hey, Ben.

So we're getting on the hour mark. Perhaps we can look at the outputs of your statistical analysis for a ration or ruin. How about this? How about we play a couple of ads real quick? If anybody needs to go get some water, we'll come back and knock it out for 15 minutes. What do you say?

Yeah, go for it. and knock it out for 15 minutes. What do you say? Yeah, go for it. Alright, everyone mute yourselves. I'll mute myself. We're going to play a couple of ads. We'll be right back folks. Here's my question to you. Are

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You guys see that? Yeah. So I'll run through very quickly. Keep it in mind, a great majority of people are listening and cannot see my screen. So as a reminder, Rational Ruin was four weeks of survival food. We got Mountain House, we got Ready Hour, we got

XMREs, and we got Jonesstead. Now there was different packaging sizes, right? There was kind of individual meals that were smaller than there were the larger family style. We talked all about that. If you want more info, go check out. We had four reviews each week, one for each week. But anyway, what I did is I took that data and just crunched it as best I could.

There's really three. I think three variables I'm looking at here. Number one is cost. Of course, I'm trying to estimate the cost per meal and let's just say a meal is between six to eight hundred calories. The mountain house was actually a little smaller. We'll get to that, but we're looking for the cost per meal. We're looking at the calories per meal, but we're also looking for protein, Right? So protein, calories, cost. Keep those in mind. I tried my best. Really, okay, the methodology for the cost is I went online,

found the MSRP for the ready hour, the mountain house, and the XMREs. Of course, the Jones-Sted, the homemade freeze-dried, that was week four, I had to make a little bit more estimates. We'll go into that. But for Ready Hour Mountain House XMRE, it was pretty straightforward. I didn't get the sales price, right? The 30% off, 10% off, or any specials, nothing like that. I went straight to their website and I went straight to Amazon, compared and contrasted a couple different sample sizes, came up with this.

Ready hour, about $6.67 per meal. Mountain House, about $11.29 per meal. XMRE, $12.50 per meal. Jonestead will get to that shortly. So keep that. It's gonna have its own segment. Now, calories per person? Is that one serving? Yes. Now, here's the thing. This is, uh, what is a serving is a great question. So what I tried to do is what is one MRE counts as one

pack one mountain house package counts as one pack but the ready hour had a lot of you know four or eight serving packages that were family sized. So I tried to normalize that a bit and say like half of the strawberry cream of wheat, which we hated half of that is included here not the entire thing because it's overkill so

tried to normalize that but you can really gauge that based off the calories per pack now these calories per pack these numbers come directly from the data that I input over those four weeks. Remember, I have a very detailed spreadsheet of all the different food I've eaten with all the calories, all that, all the way through May, and I've been keeping it decently. So, this is real calorie and protein data taken directly. It's no estimate. It's actual written down directly from the back. So, ready hour averaged about a thousand calories per pack, but that is a ton of, well, creamy wheat, the creamy broccoli soup, like lots of creamy stuff. It's just not that great, but it has

tons of calories. Not a the protein is a lot more than also just think of it as one day. So, what's the cost for 2000 calories? I don't care how many packs it is or meals. 2000 calories. How much does that cost and how much is it cost for one gram of protein? So, I run that all through. It's not that complicated. These numbers are very telling. First and foremost, for 2000 calories of protein. The XMREs, more expensive than Ready Hour, but at least for the calories aspect, the XMREs were cheaper per calorie than Mountain House, but not on the protein factor. And we talked about this. The XMRE had a lot of, you know,

sugar, carbs, and fats that tasted good and will fuel you, but maybe not a lot of protein, whereas the Mountain House had more protein. And again sugar, carbs, and fats that tasted good and will fuel you but maybe not a lot of protein. Whereas, the Mountain House had more protein. And, again, we'll get to the Jonesstead. The Jonesstead had just about the lowest price per

gram of protein and I know for fact that protein is a lot better than the Ready Hour protein which is mostly protein from wheat and soy, not real protein from meat and eggs. So anyway, these are a lot of numbers. I threw it at everybody. I did do the best job of presenting, but I will say Mountain House is clearly the most expensive per calorie. Ready Hour is clearly the cheapest per calorie. XMRE is actually a

pretty good deal when it comes to calorie but if you're looking at per gram of protein, XMRE is actually the most expensive. So, future Dan, let me throw it to you first. Any observations or questions and mostly on Ready Hour Mountain

House at XMRE. We're gonna get to the Jones stead in a second That's awesome analysis. I I'm just trying to absorb it But I just want thank you and and before the show ends. I want to make sure I thank Dave Jones for his Presentation a future dangers heat map dashboard tonight. That was epic But thank you Dave for that but thank you Ben for this analysis. I think we've learned a lot and a lot of expectation. Maybe some surprises in here. I was surprised how expensive Mountain House is and it's, and I double-checked these figures

because it's $44 for 2,000 calories at Mountain House. and it's and I double check these figures because it's $44 for 2000 calories of Mountain House. Now again, this is at the MSRP. You can get cheaper sometimes, but you can get all these a little bit cheaper and the Mountain House being like $10 more, pretty much uh you know 30 plus percent more than XMRE. I did not expect that at all. James, Dave, any questions we can talk about this? Then we're going to go into the Jones-stead. I think, you know, I'm real glad you did the protein cost because it further verified what I thought was the biggest takeaway personally from this whole exercise, which is protein, protein, protein, you know, any one of these is not a standout winner on the protein.

So not, not just from the cost perspective, but also from, you know, I've not entirely sure what was protein in my ex MRE, uh, entree sometimes, you know what I mean? Yeah. So it just, it really, I think that that protein supplement, no matter what you wind up personally, no matter what I wind it, whatever I wind up storing, having that protein supplement is what, what is the biggest game changer for me going forward. Absolutely.

Dave. Well, there's just too many variables for the Jones Stead, because, you know, we we just started freeze drying. We've learned a whole bunch since you guys packed got the what we had packaged and ready to go. Yeah. Eggs, you know, since you guys got what we had packaged and ready to go. Yeah, eggs, you know, free range chickens, protein rich eggs.

And of course the stew and the soup. And that's just what we had. Now we're doing much better and we're using Mylar bags and oxygen absorbers. But jeez, getting your own freeze dryer is a huge, huge step. We had been looking at it for years and we can dry. We do all the stuff to preserve our food. We have five freezers, three refrigerators. So the freeze dryer was kind of like the last thing. So I don't know, it's not for everybody, but we've been running it now almost 24-7 and putting up stuff.

Let me go through how I estimate it. Now I will say the Jones Dead Costs estimates took a little bit of creative license on my end. So it could be more, could easily be less and I'll explain why. But here's what we did. the I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do that but those stews were just so darn good. What I did, this total cost is kind of what I estimated each package to cost but again, there could be a range. I'm

going to start with the eggs because you and I or maybe Maria and I more specifically transact with real money for these eggs. I buy my eggs through you and uh for one dozen eggs, I pay $6. So I assumed that that's not your cost. That's really what you sell it for. But I just put these dozen eggs cost $6 to produce. Then you need the bag and oh yeah, you need a freeze dryer. So without getting too fancy, I know

that freeze dryer is pretty expensive. You gotta amortize that over time. The more you you're not making your money back. all. So what I said is maybe it costs $3 for those dozen eggs. Maybe a dollar for the bag, $2 for the machine itself. Then $1.27, I use Chad GP to try to estimate this based off kilowatt hours and stuff, I don't know. But a dollar, a little more than a dollar of electricity to do that, I actually think it's probably less. But that, depending where you know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what hours and stuff. I don't know. But like, you know, a dollar, a little more than a dollar of electricity to do

that. I actually think it's probably less but that, you know, depending on where you live, you might have cheap electricity. You might have real expensive. Anyway, it all rolls up where somewhere between 10 to 12 bucks for the

beef stew, the chickens or excuse me, the pork stew, chicken stew or or a dozen eggs, kind of in that 10 to 12, and that is competitive with these commercial, like it's cheaper than the Mountain House, only slightly more expensive than XMREs. That's on the calorie basis. It's actually way cheaper. It's almost half as expensive per gram of protein than XMREs, and it's, you know, is expensive per gram of protein than XMREs and it's you know much less per gram of protein

than Mountain House. The ready hour has a cheaper cost per gram of protein but again, that's not pork. It's not organic eggs from your own you know your own property. So, I think honestly, I have that Dave so I think this is economical and makes sense for you guys to do. Well thanks that looks really accurate I would say.

Alright, there we go I see, I love this stuff. Hey Ben, just to look at some more angles to the entire point of Ratchet or R rational ruin there's other there's there's um There's factors outside of your model, right? There was a taste factor There was a form factor of packaging depend on what but there's also duration So what it was interesting to me is the highest calorie count or the most cost-effective calorie count is topping out on the duration too. And, and, and not, not to, you know, throw a cold blanket on homesteading, but there's a cost of labor that's not in the model now.

Right? So if you're dedicated to the lifestyle, it's easy to just discount your labor as, you know, not, not add it to it, but economically you could transfer your labor and something else and buy free packaged food And then and then there's the preservatives the additives, right? So so jones said Far in a way, you know, it's not built to last 30 years So it doesn't need the preservative so lots of externalities to the model But I still think the model is tremendously

favoring Homesteading farming It has the longest potential in in a real collapse scenario If you keep if you can keep your farm safe It it's just obviously the the most nutritious Sustainable choice everything else you can buy a certain amount of it, but you might run out Yep, especially people show about your door and you know friends or family and All of a sudden your one-year supply is a two, three month supply.

You're like, oh boy. Hey, I got a question for the group. Yeah. How much weight did you gain back? How much did you lose and how much did you gain back? You go first, future Dan. I'm about at right where I finished. I've actually, I went further and lost even more weight after it ended, I'm about at right where I finished.

I went further and lost even more weight after it ended. But it's taken a lot of discipline. But the alternative fasting aspect of rational ruin has definitely conditioned my body to far more easily accept longer periods without eating which is you know healthier too. So you kind of reset your metabolism. I did. Yeah. Nice. James, I want exactly I just saw you unmute. I think you have an announcement as well so go ahead. surprisingly at well I'll just I don't weigh myself that much but I in my workout fitness app I took my weight from January ish and it was 175 and that was probably a lot of holla that's high for me but it was 175

and I at the height of rationeroo and I went to the gym and weighed myself and I was 167 and then I Want to say it was last Monday I Was at the gym in the early hours? so it's you know, I'm talking like five o'clock in the morning and I Was back up to 170 already so I don't know if

it's gonna level out like that or what I don't really concern myself with weight all that much but yeah I definitely lost a hell of a lot more weight than I thought I was gonna lose it was almost alarming I think if I was under 165, I would have been like, uh-uh. This ain't working for me, because I'm too short to be lightweight also. You know what I mean? So, but yeah, I mean, it definitely was a thing. I will say that the one thing that the Jones-stead food did for me was gave me a feeling of peace of mind because I knew I was eating real food. You know what I mean?

And I think that over time, we only had the additive-laden ready-hour food for a week. Which is a lot, and it was our only food. Oh boy. It was our only food. Oh boy. It is, it was our only food. But I think had I been eating that for three months, I, it would really probably start to eat away at my psyche. I would, and you know, let's say you're starting to get sick or your kid's sick or you know what I mean?

Health is not looking the way it's supposed to look and you're eating off this ready hour stuff all the time and that's all you got to eat. I think that would start to eat me up a little bit mentally Where because I could tell the difference I get that in my head It was like once we get to Jones dead week I know my body's gonna recover because I'm eating again like I'm eating food again You know, it's not I kind of felt that way with Mountain House too because I do like Mountain House and I think their ingredients are good but it was nothing like the like knowing that Maria made it. You know what I mean? Yeah. Well, that's good. I wanted to talk about my way but I

just saw something in the back or not really the back channel. Just the the chat, the show chat shots fired in LA. I don't know if that's real or not. I mean, it's I was perusing Twitter and I've I some guys shooting a gun off a corner. It's a lot. I

don't know. You know, it's hard to trust any of these days with the AI. It's like, wow. That's what I said. Anything honestly. Okay. Well, we'll just hope for the best and uh prep for the worst. Super quick. If you can see my see the screen here, I dropped.

I would say during the entire exercise, I lost six pounds and I've gained two back on average but I feel like most of the two that I gained back is just having food in my system. If you know what I mean without being gross about it. Uh water

weight, you have more food in you. You hold on to more water as well but hey, Dave Jones himself said I was looking looking trimmed today when he saw me. Definitely. I I I definitely lost a few pounds. I I was able I did gain a couple back but I even though I have a little bit to lose I don't want to lose much like James is saying like if stuff is really going bad and you really didn't need to ration you don't want to lose weight like that's the last thing you want to do to get your powers out and things can be gone for months at a time. Um you don't

wanna be losing a pound a week, a pound a half a week. So, anyway, keep a have a little love handles on you folks. It's okay. 1820% body fat cuz you will lose it all in the first month if stuff really happen, don't you guys think? Yeah, just

out of stress alone. Exactly. You're not gonna be sleeping. You're gonna be moving all the time. Just imagine if you had to go like how much more physical activity you'll have. I guess if you're you know hiding in a bunker maybe you won't be moving too much but let's in a lot of scenarios you'll be a lot more physically active with less food at the same time. I kept my exercise pretty much the same but I didn't increase it. I mean, if I didn't do protein supplementation and I had double or tripled my calorie output every day, I would have lost twice as much weight, honestly. And it would have felt a lot worse too.

So man, I learned a ton from Rational Ruin. I'm going to go back and listen to our recaps as well. Maybe in a month or two, just to jog my memory again. In Trebuch Commander, if you have the ability to string them all together sometime this summer as a collection, that would be cool too. Otherwise, folks, just wherever you get your PBN, just go search Ration, R-A-T-I-O-N. Just search Ration, and it should show up, I think, guys.

This has been an awesome episode. you guys can go out of the park every time. This was future dad's idea. This is all him. Great idea and a group effort to make it happen. I'm ready for the next one, man. If anybody's feeling left out listening to these Ration of Ruins, as I mentioned in the previous Ration of Ruin shows, we're going to be conducting a 72-hour fast, PBN-wide for all those who would

like to participate, the 27th, 28th, 29th, that Friday, Saturday, Sunday, end of the month, essentially. You know, so, and these will be a quarterly thing that we'll do. You can do 24, you can do 48, you can do 72, whatever you want to do. But having done this with the Patriot Power Hour guys and having talked to other people who do the fasting, Maria, Dave, it's clear that this is just a part of being human. And I think it's an essential part of cleaning up your body, particularly this day and age with the chemicals and everything else that goes into it.

I think it's essential to good health and if you can stick it out 72 hours, I think you'll get the most benefit. So consider joining us, 27th, 28th, 29th of June. 28th, 29th of June. Yeah, you'll learn so much about your body and yourself and how it reacts when it's in calorie deprivation. You go into ketose, you'll have spurts of energy. You definitely got to keep that salt level up though. Well, there's all kinds of things. I'm sure the Intrepid commander will talk you through it all.

We, we made this stuff called a snake juice. It's a, like electrolyte mix and that's what we lived on. Um, and if you think you can't, you're probably right. But if you think you can, you If you think you special guest. Thanks. We got it. We gotta do this more often like once a month or something before. Yeah, I love it. What a pleasure to join you guys. Yeah. Thank you, Dave. Thank you, James. You're doing us a lot this past month on Patriot Power. I think it makes for a better show. You're welcome back

anytime. Thank you. Thank you. Awesome. Alright. Catch you guys