The Prepper Broadcasting Network - Patriot Power Hour #336 Feat. JFurg of Phoenix Survival! Prepping; Gold; Silver & More!

Episode Date: February 6, 2026

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Ben the breaker of Banksters here. February 5th, 2026. Future Dan, unavailable today, but just by the luck of the universe or serendipity or destiny. Who knows? Coincidence, I don't believe in coincidence. But we have special guests tonight,

Phoenix Survivals. own J. Ferg. So we were actually going to have Jordan on anyway at like in about half hour in, but the very last second unfortunately featured Dan not able to join. So I'm going to bring Jordan on just a little bit sooner. After I knock out the newsblitz, we'll bring her on. I believe I see her in the back chat or in the backstage already too. So that's awesome. I was actually going to be on Jordan's show earlier this week and I got caught up with work. I mean

I don't know. It's freezing out. It's February but it's a good time to work. Very busy time of the year for me. At least I'm like looking outside and thinking to myself hey I don't really mind staying inside and working 10, 12 hours on a computer because it's like

three degrees out anyway. So I don't have cabin fever yet. It's starting to get there. February, I'm always so glad it's the shortest month. I'm just so sick of the winter by then, but I'll say this. The winters here where I'm at aren't that bad. And future Dan also said he's from up north.

Winters here aren't that bad. But this has been a pretty rough one. I've been on the East Coast for about 15 years now, and I would say this is the second or third roughest, or maybe the roughest, but it's not that bad. let me tell you you go to peru you go to west lafayette indiana and go to seven 30 a m calculus class in february and then you let me know and guess why i just didn't go to class that's anyway i digress let's uh a couple things to get into that we'll get jordan on here

first or foremost i'm going to go through the newsblitz but i'm not going to bury the lead either golden silver have been absolutely crazy and that's what Jordan and I were really going to talk about. Hit me up late last week, I believe, and said, holy cow, we got to talk about this. She just had a show about goldbacks. So like perfect timing just a few weeks ago, a couple weeks ago. Kind of the gold currency.

So silver is down like 20% in the last 24 hours. It went from 120 bucks about a week and a half ago to under. or 70 bucks. Bitcoin totally eviscerated in the last 2448 hours. Oh, it's gnarly. Keep in mind, Bitcoin, gold, and silver are still up big time in the last five plus years. But yeah, call it a haircut, call it devastation. Whatever it is, when there's blood in the streets and people are freaking out, that's when you buy. And everyone's jubilant and thinks it's time to get a Lamborghini. Maybe that's when you sell a little bit.

Right? So I personally made my first purchase of this bare market on Bitcoin today. I'm also looking at some gold and silver. If gold gets to under $4,000 and if silver gets back into the $50 range, I'll be getting some of that. So buy low, sell high. People are freaking out. especially bitcoiners, but even gold and silver people are just scared almost. And we'll talk to Jordan a lot about this.

I've actually a little freaked out because gold and silver are actually trading like Bitcoin or even more insane actually than Bitcoin. So that's pretty insane. Okay, but I'm going to go through this newsblitz because Epstein, unbelievable. I wanted to get through that real quick. And as you can see, we also have foreign blacks, ops suspected. I had to get this news blitz. Then we're going to bring Jordan on.

All right. Here we go. February 5th, 2026. Episode 336. Let's start with powerful pedophiles exposed indicator. We have five headlines under this single indicator. Of course, many new documents were released. Just about the time of our last episode last week.

But massive fallout since then. DOJ files show Epstein was reportedly about to cooperate with Fed prosecutors weeks before he was found dead in a jail. Globalist Microsoft founder, Mr. Gates, needs to answer for Epstein allegations, his ex-wife says. The Dems are not protecting the Clintons. The Clintons look to be about ready to testify. Hillary's trying to clap back, but Gates and Clinton, just no way out at this point.

And iconic leftist anarchist caught seemingly advising Epstein on how to outrun Petto accusations. So just all the emails between Epstein and people just disgusting. I honestly don't look at this stuff. I don't even want to see his face. I don't want to see any of these people. It makes me want to puke. I've done some data mining on Patriot Power Hour, and I've only ingested about a third of the episodes that we've done in the last decade.

We were talking about Epstein before COVID. We were talking about Epstein before he killed himself in 2019. So already talked about it a lot. Being vindicated, but it doesn't make me happy necessarily. leave it at that. And then foreign black ops suspected. FBI documents claim Epstein was trained as a

spy for Israel. All these different sources corroborating each other's stories. Illegal biolabs in Vegas and California are linked to Chinese national with alleged military civil

fusion ties. President sent National Director of Intelligence, National Intelligence director that is to Fulton county election war on execution we talked a little bit about that last saturday we were patriot power hours usually on thursdays but uh we ended up talk about that summit last show as well all right that's the newsblitz with that said we do have jfurg a phoenix survival on the back and well jordan i didn't need to send you any invite

And I don't have to unmute you either. So feel free to unmute yourself and come out air. How are you doing tonight? Oh, I got to add you to stage. I figured you could add yourself. My fault. I got you out of the stage now. Hi, how are you?

I'm doing good. We did it at the same time, didn't it? Because it double clicked. Oh, we did. That's funny. That's funny. I'm doing okay. It's, I'm a little rattled with the craziness of gold, silver, Bitcoin, but I also know and knew this

would happen. So it's just, that's. that's one side. And then with this whole Epstein stuff, I'm just not even hardly looking at it, but I am. I don't know. That makes me want to puke. Truth. Yeah, truth be told, I'm not too worried about soar. Yeah, go for it. Tell us why. Well, okay. So we saw the big incline where we hit 120 at one point, and we knew it was going to potentially go higher. But during that time, everybody, especially a lot of the old timers,

were selling their gold and silver, like at top dollar. So with so many people selling, you can't help but expect for it to drop and to drop hard, especially when the U.S. Mint stopped any productions and sales. On top of that, it's needed in so many industries. So you have to have a bit of a decline for companies and industries to keep going. So right now, I have my KitCo. up on my phone. It's at 65, 76, and it dropped another dollar from $66. But truth be told, we're going to see that. It's going to go sideways for a little bit, and then it's going to,

it's working on its level and back out. I do believe, but by the end of the year, we will see it up in the hundreds again in no time. Because if you look, copper is staying at a steady rate, gold is still staying at a good price. And here's how I know for a fact. that in my opinion, I shouldn't say for a fact, in my opinion that it is going to increase, is if you look at the major silver distributors and sellers online, for example, APMEX, they are still selling their silver, regardless of what the market is at for $12, $12 at minimum above melt. Most of these corporations sell it for anywhere between you typically see $3 to $6 above melt. So the facts that they're still selling at $89 and $97 up to $97 a piece goes to show that even they project the market to keep to re-increase because they're not adjusting as quickly as we are seeing elsewhere.

A lot of coin shops also quit except in buying backs. A lot of places from what I heard from my other friends in the coin industry were seeing signs on their local coin shops stating that they were no longer currently purchasing. in and there for a minute, a lot of the line actually turned off their websites so you could not purchase anything. Oh, wow. Just turned it off. It's like turn off the lights in the 21st century of your shop. Right.

They blocked all cells. So they marked it as unable to purchase or the site would be down. And then after like a day, certain sites, especially some of these major sites, then started reselling again. But with the way their price. are sitting, I don't believe, even if it does drop back down, it is going to jump right back up. It's just how the market works. I fully believe it. And we got 45 minutes to dive deep into this, which we're going to do because I'm a silver

nerd. And it sounds like you are as well. I'm so stuck to have you here. I want to keep things in perspective. I'm looking at the, not even a long term chart, but a couple month long chart. We're at silver price now where we were in the middle of December. So even though it's like gone from $120 to $64, it's like it's only been 30 or 40 days, easy come, easy go.

And usually once you get through those crazy prices the first time, the second time is way easier. That means I think we'll get above $120 on the next spike. Even though silver is at 6511 right now for melt, I'm still seeing five grams of silver go for $30. dollars apiece. So the the demand is still there and people are still paying that. Watching the market value for a half ounce, a quarter ounce or a

10th ounce is still up there. And I don't think people realize is just because the market is fluctuating the way it is doesn't mean that the silver itself is less valuable, even though the market says it is. On the buyer's end, I see it

still on the sellers end, I still see it going. And here's the thing that a lot of people don't realize is gold, silver, any precious metals is not a one-all, be-all, I hit the top dollar, I can retire for the rest of my life. No, it is a long-term investment and a long-term plan. So you have a 401k, I have a silver growth. So that's what I look at is the market is going to flex. It's going to ebb and flow, all sorts of different directions. But in long term, anything I buy in silver or gold or whatever type of metal, it is going to retain a level of value, if not increase over the long term. Perfectly said, I've always related it to an insurance policy that never expires and actually can grow in value. But at a minimum, it maintains its value against inflation. And there's been so much

suppression of silver from, let's just call it, 2011 when it had a big bull market to 40 bucks. They pulled out all types of bankster manipulation and then for the next 15 years it was suppressed big time. But in the last couple of years, it's like they've lost control. But in my opinion, the crazy ups and downs we're seeing, well, especially the downs, that's paper price. That's totally different than the physical. And that's what you're saying too. Right. Well, because a lot of people don't really. realize your 401k is set on a market rate. So if you decide to leave a company and cash out your 401k or if you have to borrow against it, the amount that you actually obtain is based on the

close of market at end of day. So if that market decides to plummet, you are only going to be able to withdraw the amount at which the market value was sitting at. And a lot of people don't realize your 401k is a set limit to a degree because there are points. parts of it that go into the market and it flexes and changes with the daily value, just like our gold, our silver, or platinum, and even our copper. Well, the industrial demand is what makes the difference for silver. I like gold. I feel like gold is the true insurance, like the neutral. You'll never be sad that you have gold. I would never want to sell my gold unless I'm literally paying to save myself or a loved one's life for

medical treatment or was starving to death. That's how I look at it. Same with silver, but silver isn't just the monetary. It's the industrial with all the solar panels and batteries. Well, it's not copper as well. Copper is used in certain medical lines. Copper is used in med gas lines. We're seeing copper jump up.

I'm seeing people pay $6 an ounce for premium copper, even though copper itself is maybe $5, $6 a pound. Yeah, $5.88 a pound. And so it's what happens in my opinion, again, I think because of the increase on silver, which we had to see it fall, you would see a forced boost in copper. And there are certain metals in the long term, yes, we do want to increase, but people don't realize what it goes into the chips. You know, all of these things that our electronics are based on. our medical systems are based on our medical devices that require them. And so when the government stops at that point,

when do you hit a point then what year was it that the U.S. actually made people turn over their silver? Mid-30s, I believe, right? It was like 33. Was it? I don't know. I thought it was a little later than that. But, you know, we saw where. I'll go look that up.

Go for it. I should know that by heart. Honestly. That's why I'm mad. all where the government, you know, when metals were at a point where they were needed more than the investment of for the people, they had

people, they were seasoned it back. It was a buyback or a penalty. And so we saw that. And a lot of people were actually very concerned with how quickly the market was inclined in that we would see that again, especially with the U.S. mint stop in and a bunch of other things going on.

That was a bit of a concern. I wasn't too concerned about it, but at the same time, it was a healthy concern because when the market increases too quickly, it does affect things in a certain degree. You don't want it to stay. So in my opinion, you want to see a growth chart that grows steadily. If it increases too fast, then it typically does have a plummet before it climbs back up and levels out. So that's like we saw the market for the longest time around $30.

Then it stayed at 50 to 60 for quite a while, correct? Is this the 10-year? Hold on. What is? This is very short-term, actually. Let's zoom out. We're going to, let's- Yeah, I was going to say.

If you're not too much, it's just a straight line up. So that's kind of telling. But let me reform this one nicely here. I mean, it really is. If I just look at a year, it stayed pretty steady around $30, 25, well, no, $30 to $40 for, from March to July. There you go.

Pretty much all of 24, for all of 2024, it was like 25 bucks. And most of 2025, it was like 30, 33 bucks. And then it boosted. That's what we want to see on a chart in my, you know, in my point of view, is a steady growth. Because what that means is the market can

handle it. The cost is still there and it matches where we're at with income and everything else because you don't want to go silver pour. Same with you don't want to go gun poor. or whatever it is you're into because I saw where as soon as prices hit $98, people were buying up silver so hard. And then the second it hit 120, they sold it.

So of course it's going to, again, it's going to drop. But you want a steady incline because then, you know, the entire market across the board can maintain it. So at this point, I think we're going to see a steady incline. But I do think we are going to stay around the 110s to 120s at some point. and that's going to be our regular, our new normal. The math of just the industrial demand and the deficits and the mining and all that support $100 easy. But with these spikes, we might see spikes to two or 300 and then drops to 70 or 80. Right now we're at like 66.

Crazy spikes up and down. I think that volatility will be, I think it's going to pop higher than ever, but it's going to get. honestly, I think the system's falling apart. It's like a washing machine that's misbalanced and it's just like, dong, dong, dong, dong, dong. And a lot of people don't realize is the value of precious metals is very codependent upon the value of the dollar. Our dollar has declined in value to such a degree that it did not surprise me that

silver on top of it and gold were increasing at the rate they were. They just, we should go back to a. a gold standard, in my opinion, having something that stands behind the dollar is going to be better for the economy. But again, at this point, you know, I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink. So, you know, wish in one hand, you know, the other saying, but for me, like for you, you're into Bitcoin. I don't. I'm not. That's just a personal preference. For me, it's non-existent money. It would be like, for me, it's like, playing with play money. I can have monopoly dollars all day, but unless there's something physically

back in it, it's just paper. I'll say this. You don't have electricity and internet, you have no Bitcoin. So that's why you better have some golden silver and some lead and some medical supplies and food and water before anything. And I try to tell people like having an ounce or five ounce or 10 ounces, you know, that's great. But if you're going to start, start buy in silver, maybe look into the lower denominations. You know, there are grams, there are many different levels of grounds, but, you know, you have your 10th ounce, you have your quarter ounce, you have your half ounce. You don't have to break your bank just to start your slow investment into your future, the future of your family. And for example, here we go, one of the

our listeners on YouTube says, my wholesaler just stopped going down with Spot at 73. No lower. They capped it. So a lot of these wholesalers cannot go below that. 73 right now for a buyer. Amazing cost.

Amazing cost. But, you know, people are going to buy up so quickly again. I think that's going to cause the silver to jump again, too, just as quick. It's as a finance nerd, I'm nerding out just researching all of this, but it's actually kind of scary to me.

I expected all this to happen sooner, but I knew it was going to happen eventually. And these are the four shocks of the real earthquake. That's how I see this, right? Is that a good analogy? No, it is. We are looking at, yeah, I was trying to think,

almost like an EKG of the metal market. Right. It is a constant. incline and level out, but, you know, the last thing we want to see is to see it flatline. Not at all. Do you, what do you know about, I think, pre-1964 quarters and dimes and stuff? Do you got any of those before? I have I gotten into it.

I have quite a bit. So as it's called as junk silver, anything pre-1964 is to. typically a certain level of silver, 1964 dimes, are 90%, you have your quarters. The only one that the dates don't, are a little more limited or war nickels. That's a much more precise year range that actually contains silver. But yes, I am all for it. I have my mercury dimes, my silver dimes, my silver quarters. I have my bicentennials.

I even have, you know, the silver proofs, like the commemorative silver proofs that are 90% silver. Like these are all things that still hold value, whether it's for melt or the fact that it's from 1906 or whatever year that it was made. And it has that amount of metal in it. Historic artifacts. It's really cool to have. I remember when I first started stacking in, I don't know, 2011, 2012, 2012, 20, 13. I was just getting really cool

single ones that I wanted. I don't know. It's kind of like collecting baseball cards, but it won't burn if the house catches on fire. And also you can melt it and turn it into just plain old silver. But there's all types of cool collectors aspect of it. At this point, we might

be past the collector for fun. Now we're at the Shtiaf. But how about this, Jordan? I was watching the YouTube channel. You know, that's where all the best research is done. except for chat GPT these days, of course. And so I did find a really good suggestion. It's hide your silver in plain sight by just having a mason jar of your dimes and quarters,

like $10 worth of change. The robbers ain't even going to grab that because no one even wants dimes and quarters. But it's actually like several thousand dollars worth of silver. Yeah, I am not against it at all. having a having your precious metals or backup money um put away but putting a way where it's not going to be easily found is i think ideal in any situation same with you know cash is king until it's not and cash will always be king well cash will be king for a much longer amount of time in my opinion before you have to go to silver and gold and in which case you are going to want those junk silver's because a lot of people aren't as versed with, you know, premium silver like you and I are or like Bill here in our chat room. We, a lot of people are going to be more familiar with the dimes, the nickels, the quarters, the ASEs, the American Silver Eagles. Those are going to be

something more common that people recognize versus the high premium stuff that you and I have put up for the worst possible moment. Yes, there's an order of like what order I would sell my silver, right? Those would be some of the last ones I would sell. They probably want to get the most value as I would want. I have a little bit of the, I definitely have some of the pre-1964. I have some just random silver. I got from a silversmith too.

That's pretty cool. It's just like literally globules. Like globules. Yeah, exactly. Handpores, too. I got a couple. of those. I've got a couple

hand pours and then I do have silver shot as well. Silver shot's been a big one that people are going crazy

over. And like I said, I'm seeing a lot, a lot of people really buying up copper now too because a lot of people think copper

is going to be the next silver. Also, though, when people can't afford gold, they go to silver. When they can't

go to silver, they go to copper. So it is a, it is just the natural progression of things. And I honestly thought we were going to see a forced, a forced increase in the market just on copper itself because of where silver was sitting. Because less people were buying, more people were selling. And I think those all contributed

into the quick drop. But like I said, I do think it's going to come back up and it's going to level out. Yeah. And it's, it's going to be sooner than later in my expectation. I think there's a lot of funky business going on as well. both on the up and the down, the banksters are making a killing with their insider trading. But the actual physical silver, the truth will come out about that. And that, same with copper, like you said,

there's structural deficits. And when silver gets so expensive, they try to wear possible. Sometimes it's not possible. But in some places, they can, instead of using silver, they can use copper. Now, the thing usual,

break down quicker. and my co-host future Dan, he hates Chineseium, made-in-China electronics that break in like a year. Well, let me tell you what, if they have to reduce their silver or eliminate it, that stuff's going to break in like a week now. But we saw China actually stopped any output of their silver for a time. They were not, actually, I don't believe they're still actually putting out any silver.

They actually faulted that probably about two months back. where no silver was being exported out of China. Here's the thing, though, China is not actually the largest silver producer in the world. So the fact that they think they dominate the world, yes, I do think that may also play a part of the market. But China stopped outsourcing it. So none of it is being exported. I don't know if they started that back up. But at last I heard and read, there was still no export of silver out of China as of currently.

Yes, and I feel like the U.S. could be on that path too. Just today, was it today or last night? It's in the last 2448 hours. Vance and Trump both have talked about strategic metals and evening or leveling the playing field and essentially putting, I'm an economics guy, so I'm kind of cringing to say this, but price floors and price ceilings to facilitate that. might be like $150 silver, $200 silver. So here's the thing.

Turkey, Mexico, and Poland are actually the world's largest silver mines currently. Okay. I did not know Poland. I knew Mexico for sure, but Turkey and Poland, too, you said. Mm-hmm. Okay. And that's where we run into issues with other. It, sorry.

So in my opinion, the whole tariffs and everything, I think is great. But the fact that our country has became so reliant upon China and India for certain things, I think has been the biggest issue. And I think we see that in all of our markets, especially here. The fact that there are large silver mines in Peru and other countries as well, it just goes to show there are more things that can be done to enrich the entire world without. having to limit it to specific regions. For sure. And I got a feeling there's some silver hidden away up in Alaska or out west somewhere. Not that we need to tear it up.

But on the other hand, future Dan and I have always said, we think the U.S. is holding that in their back pocket. Huge oil reserves, uranium, and other precious metals. California is sitting on a bunch of oil, But because of how the governor or however they put it in an act, you cannot mine any oil in California. And they are sitting on an oil, giant oil reserve just under the ground. And it's hard to believe that they want to cash in with the oil. And maybe the same with soil.

It leaves a level of control. If you think about it, if you control a mine of any kind, whether it be a mine of any kind, whether it be a precious metal, silica, whatever, then you do hold a level of control and safe for that region. Them limiting people mining it, I think, is just another cap of control. Because if you think about it, fuel on the West Coast is at such a ridiculous market, which helps the businessman and the larger people up top. But it doesn't do anything for the little people.

So the second you start mining, you're a big reserve there, then you no longer hold as much in your pocket because in the long picture, yes, you may make a lot at now, a lot now, but you're in the long picture, you can't milk the people for every cent they have just for a fuel of gas. I mean, a tank of gas. Not to mention you can skim a lot more taxes if the underlines more expensive. Yeah, because their taxes are, is it 13%. They have like a double or triple tax with groceries and everything. else. It's absurd. Narlily. Narlely. How did you get into silver and just gold or even prepping? What was your story overall, especially on silver, though? How did you get into this? Silver was something that I've been interested in for a long time, but it came down to the financial aspect. I actually probably didn't really start putting any money into it until about a year ago, not even a full year. Maybe,

we'll say eight to nine months ago. But I've always been holding on to my junk silver, which isn't very much because, you know, when you have to live on a certain financial means, you try to not overcomber yourself in a certain way. Being a prepper, though, has been a lifestyle thing for me. I grew up very poor. So learning to be very self-sufficient was key.

Y2K, having my own parents tell my own mother tell me that I need to be ready for anything, that anything could happen. you know, really set the tone. But for golden silver, it really grew. And then I'm one of those people who I completely nerd out and go into the rabbit hole. And then I weigh, I actually, before I started really buying, I was weigh in the markets. I'm one of those, I'm like a coupon shopper.

I don't want, I set a limit for how much I'm allowed to spend and how much I am willing to spend on one item. So for me, it is a matter of price shopping. And then if it seems worth it and it's not going to hurt us on a financial end, then I'm allowed to do it or I can go ahead and do it. My partner will even tell you, I am a low maintenance woman, but I have one of the most expensive hobbies. Stacking and prepping, huh? Yeah. I've been a prepper for a long time. I mean, a very long time.

I've been on the network, eight years now, I think. Yeah, definitely before us. Like, you were well established in 2020. A month. Yeah, a month after Ryan. Dang. Yeah, so. That's legit.

When's your 10-year anniversary? Not sure. Could be coming up before you know. I know. I've been listening. I've been listening since 2011. And they were before that. That's awesome.

15 plus years. Yeah. But for me, this is one of the. those things where now I'm actually looking into branching out into my community. Like I'll go to the coin shops. But again, I have to, you have to understand when you go into a coin shop, they are, if you sell, you are going to get a certain percentage less than where it's sitting at. And just to let you know, when they, well, when they buy, sorry. And when they sell, it is going to sit at a certain amount markup. So you have to keep in mind necessarily going to.

into a coin shop is not always going to be your best bet. And I hate to say it that way, but there are some great sites online. You do have to do some price shopping, but if you're just looking for one ounce or lower, I mean, take a look at these different sites and compare and then go into a coin shop and talk to someone, but just realize not everybody's going to be in it for your best interest. I like going into a place and saying, hey, I have this dime. What is this worth? And I came in with a silver dime, 19, is it, 19503? It was really nice condition, really nice shape, silver dime.

And she goes, oh, it's worth $1.53, even though Melt was sitting at $98 at the time. So you have to keep in mind She wasn't going to buy it for what it would be worth at melt She was going to buy it for what the value is based on the red book Right And without getting too Esoteric or deep into it from a financial point of view They're having some issues in the short term with the junk silver

Because a lot of times they will actually just melt that down But the refiners don't want to buy that right now because they have no idea what the price is. And so that's like causing a huge traffic jam in the silver price. That's why these local coin shops, as they're known, have to, like, you don't blame them. They're reacting to things upstream, right? Yeah, you know that, right? I mean, you know that I know, but to the audience.

People need to realize, though, is sometimes you can work out a good deal on partnership with a local place, but sometimes it's best to look, it's best a window shop across the board, before you make a move. It's hard to do, but it's the smartest thing to do, really, and everything. It is hard to do, but I'm that person who keeps like five browsers open on my phone when I'm looking at precious metals. And I do that price comparison. And I sit down and I look at what market sitting at and what we're doing and going from there. But again, for those who want to get into precious metals, yes, ASEs are the most common and most commonly recognized.

but here's the thing. ASE gold is going to be extremely expensive. So if you're looking at ways to be able to increase your gold or silver without breaking your bank, look into the lower denominations. I even have grain cards, but those are fun. Those are things I give to my kids and they can put up and then that starts them on quarter grain gold. You know what I mean? It's fun.

But for people who are looking, you've got. half grams, you've got whole grams, and even whole grams with the way silver cost, you are going to spend around $100. And for silver, if you can find an ounce of silver for 100, that's great. But again, if you're looking at saving it for an ShtF moment, the last thing you want to do is be caught in a situation where all you have is one ounce and you're trying to buy two eggs. That's where the lower amounts are going to help you and they do accrue. For those of you who don't know, 15.4 grains is one gram. 28 is a 28.8 is an ounce, but for a true Troy ounce, it's

31.1 grams. I have way too much math in my head. That was impressive. I didn't even know that to the decimal. Nice. But yes, I even, if you even want to be extra for those of you who do save, I, I notate. So like if I keep my silver in one place, I try to keep an inventory list, just like I do with ammo or my pantry, because knowing what you have and knowing what it's worth can make a difference, especially in those very lean times. If you have to sell, at least then you know what you can get for it, especially if where melt is sitting at. Because we've all hit hard times. And sometimes people have to sell the things. they don't want to, but at least then this is your investment for those lean times or for your future because I don't know if there's going to be a retirement when I hit, what is it now? For our generation, I have to be 74, 76 now to retire. By the time actually get to that age, it'll be like 86 or something. I will be 37 this month, if that tells you anything.

So for me, my precious metals are an investment into my future, as well as if anything happens, there's an inheritance for my children. Right. I can leave them something of value. That's what I look at it as something that is generational and I hope to never sell it. I would rather stuff doesn't hit the fan and I can keep my job and just stack all this silver and I never have to sell it. But if I have to, it's there. And now I got a question for you. Security.

Don't give your secrets away, obviously. But that is one thing I've been struggling with. I have some good solutions. But I know a lot of people are worried about if you have, I mean, just one silver ounce, like keeping that can be dangerous. And of itself, I'm not going to lie. I think I've lost a couple ounces in my life. But you got any tips on this?

Yeah, it goes along the line. of keeping it in plain sight. In a way, whether it be hidden, but hidden in plain sight, here's the thing, though, if you hide it, make sure you've written down where you've hidden it. Because at some point, if you're anything like me, I found Christmas gifts that I hid two years ago. And they're in silver way smaller. So it's a little harder to find. I actually misplaced an entire half ounce of silver, and it took me two weeks before I found it. Oh, my gosh.

But I do have my, so I don't keep all of my eggs in one basket. Right. That's another thing. That's a great point. It is don't, you know, people tell you to put your money in the freezer. Well, now if I break in, if I were to break into a house, the first place I'm going to look is the freezer because an older generation typically does that. Your undergarment drawer is a common place to put it. So the back of your closet is a,

common place to put it. So you have to keep in mind, if you were to break into someone's house, where's the first place you're going to look? Definitely their bedroom, right? Yeah, typically, yes, the first place most people keep all of their stuff is their jewelry box, their closet, there's usually some sort of safe or locked box. I'm not telling you not to have a safe or a lockbox, but maybe put it in a different place somewhere you wouldn't think about because people don't consider the fact that you have many open spaces throughout your entire house that are not being used, that are quite viable for storing your things. I've talked about it on previous shows when I do small space prepping. And just to list off spaces, not saying to where to put it, but under your

couch, in the extra space in your pots and pan cabinet, you know, there are plenty of places, even in your pantry, even though pantries, if it's S-H-T-F, you don't want to have it there. But just keep in mind, you know, you have other places in the house that would be more than viable if you're worried about someone breaking in. Always consider maybe having a fireproof lockbox, especially if you're worried that the house could potentially burn down. Oh, hey, JP. What's up, JP? Yeah, I've got a couple chatters today. Great.

Super sound advice. If you really, really, really trust somebody, you could even leave a little bit of a staff. at their house. That's something I may or may not do with, you know, essentially I was like, hey, here's your Christmas gift. And I'm also leaving some of mine here. So you be the custodian. I trust you. You are my parents after all. So I've done that with canned goods. With my ex-suffington's family, we would can in bulk. And I would keep so much up my house. And we would call hers the store. It was a special pantry for our canned goods. all the excess would go there.

And if I needed them, be like, hey, I'm going to the store. I'm going to grab something. Do you need something? So when I was in that spot where we kept it, I could grab her a few jars out too. So we had a communal space to store it at a secondary address for three different households. That's awesome. Diversification. It's so important for everything, including where to hide your preps or whether it's food, water, water filtration, even your bugout locations.

Your community, your community involved. So, for example, I'm expanding my local community into, you know, gold and silver. The gold backs especially, that's something that I'm going to be getting into personally, which I will give you more on that once I get a few things finished up on my end. But I have, you know, there are some people locally that I'm slowly getting them into the lower denominations of precious metals. and I still, you know, I never tell anyone how much I actually have, but it's nice to know that they're getting involved, then that's, okay, well, we're building a community.

I have this skill set. They have these goods. We have a means to be able to share and trade if need be. And I've met an entirely secondary community that I've already spoken to who has cattle and animals. And they are fine with making trades. Ooh, if you can make that happen. If you can find a farmer or a carpenter or a plumber or something like that,

and you can exchange gold and silver, you know, that's a great way for everybody, you know. That could work out for everybody. It's good at least have that option, even if you're not doing it right now. Oh, absolutely. And then the sideways, I did fall into a sideways hole with silver. And that is the collector's pieces, like the colorized. If I have to trade it, yes, it's there for that. But at the same time, I think that's that part of my girly side where I'm like, ooh, this is pretty.

Well, you can hold on to those as like, you know, the ones where, okay. I do. I do. But I am that person, when I go to buy silver, I prefer silver in the roll. I know slab goes for more right now. But if I usually end up with slabs silver, which for those of you who don't know, it's been graded, that grade sets it at a higher value just on the fact that it has been graded by a major company. company, I prefer to have the raw versus the graded.

But they're good to have if you're at a point where you're having to sell to collectors, because at least there, you will be able to retain some value within a certain group. With gold, I do most of my gold is in a protective case that was valued, whereas the silver I have mostly, you know, loose coins or in a sleeve or something like that. I have my gold all in assay too. Nice. I actually had to rearrange my stash because I had I would always bring a little bit with me. And instead of it being worth of a few hundred bucks before I knew it, I had like a thousand dollars worth of precious metals in my backpack because it's gone up and value so much. So I had to take some out.

I will say this, the TSA, the TSA wants to stay. to see your silver. I brought like five ounces of silver at one time. They do. And they look at it every time. And some people try to give you issues because of the money value on it. I have a friend who she traveled to visit family. She does auctions.

And she brought a bunch of gold and silver with her. And she said it was the worst thing trying to get to TSA with all of the gold and silver on her that she got questioned three separate times before she was allowed to board her flight. I've. Like it would. have been easier for her to get on the airline with a gun than it would have been cold and sober. Literally, like, one of my friends went hunting and he didn't get that much of a problem. I swear, I went on one trip that had four legs, you know, four different flights within there and back, and two of the four, I was not, I'm not going to say interrogated by TSA, but they stopped me,

took my bag apart, looked at all of them, and I had to like count each one, make sure they weren't slide a hand like slipping one. So gold and silver is, you know, I can't fly with it. Tough to fly. And at the borders, you know, they might try to get you. So just something that keep in mind, not like I'm going to be trying to leave the U.S. anytime soon, but bringing it in is also hard. We need to push towards the goldbacks now because it fits into a wallet.

Yes. Talk about that. I listened to your, I forgot the name of the gentleman, but I listened to that. Yes. Can you give a quick. review of that and then encourage the listeners to actually go listen to the full episode. It's on PBN and on Prepar Broadcast. It is.

Give us a high level of that and some updates. Yeah, on Robo and YouTube and maybe X2. Yes. So JP agrees he would never trust TSA around his precious metals. I agree. So what gold back is is it's fractional gold. It is true gold but made with a polymer that makes it look like a dollar bill. Now, each one goes from half ounce one, that's not half ounce, sorry, half gold back, a whole gold back, two, five, ten, and so on.

So what that means is the higher the denomination, the greater the amount of gold. And the reason why I'm leaning more towards goldbacks and I have my quite a bit is because of the fact it makes it more affordable. It makes it easier to obtain gold that still is gold. So the half gold back is one two thousandths gold and then one one thousandths, one five hundredths, one two hundreds and so on and so on. And they go all the way up to a hundred dollar bill. Now mind you, it is not a half gold back is, you know, 50 cents. A half gold back is valued. Hold on let me pull up my goldback app.

I actually have one for my gold back specifically because there are on gollback.com, there is a website. in which you can look and learn about it, and they even have where it's valued at, where you can buy goldbacks, or where you can even actually spin goldbacks. That's the best part of seeing places locally that do it. But one whole goback is valued at $9.79. A half gold back is half of that, and then it goes up from there. So your one goalback is roughly worth about $10 depending on where the market's at. There for a minute, it was sitting at about $12 to $15 just for a one gold back.

So you have money and gold in your hand at all times. So it is a good way to also look into an investment plan because of the fact that regardless, it is still gold. Right. I believe it's Dave Jones that has them because I've seen them. I've never purchased them. I have to send you. I will send you. I'll send you one.

I'll share a couple of them. But yes, I'm actually working on actually seeing about becoming a gold back seller through PBN on the creating a little website to link up. So then making it as affordable for the listeners as possible. I'm not looking to be in it on the profit in. So I want to keep it as reasonable as possible for our listeners because that's the whole thing with our network is trying to teach people, trying to show people, and then making things as accessible as possible. So it may not be a lot, but if you can start with spending, you know, so much money here and there just to get that up, then that's the best thing. I think a half goalback. Actually, Bill, if you're still in here, think a half goal back is going for roughly because it does sell a few dollars higher than what it's where it's sitting at on market, which is usually how it goes.

I think a one go back, which is valued about $9 to $10 is going for anywhere from 12 to $15. So you'll see that market. And I want to make those as reasonable as possible for our listeners and even our other host because having some sort of precious metal put away, even if it's a small amount, is more than you'll have if the world stops. And they're beautiful. Like the art is really cool, right? They are. The DC one sold out quick. And they were a limited edition and they were beautiful.

Nice. Yeah, go ahead. Oh, sorry, I was going to answer the question here. Breezy, so they are selling slightly above the price of what they're worth, but you're going to see that with any precious metals. So for the example of silver, you're always going to pay, yes, all the premium goldbacks. You're going to spend a little bit higher than where they're sitting at. But then again, when the market changes, even if I spent, six to eight dollars for a half goal back and the in the gold goes back up then i'm going to be

holding one that's well worth that if not more as time increases one thing i think it's really intriguing about it is finding the shops that will accept it and then you can support those shops and even if it's a couple percent extra premium which prezie points out is a good point consider that like a a tax that you're paying you know to spread liberty of hard money and to get to meet some of these people. Have you gotten into these shops and met any of these folks? I want to actually, that's half what I did. Go do some field trips like this. I do need to drive down. I know one of them's a bakery and another one's a dance class. So not either thing that I would probably actually purchase from. But I'm also working out,

again, in the community of people who are willing to actually exchange goldbacks as currency, too, for us for our goods. So here's the thing, though. Breezy says cheap, he pays 10%, 10% maximum premium at our local dealers for silver, usually seven. Okay. So that's, that's something why with PBN, I'm trying to do it in a way where I'm not, I'm not in it for the profit. I want to make it as reasonable. I probably won't be making much on it at all, if anything. And here's the thing, though, for your state, I don't know how it's going to do online, but for your state, most precious metals are not taxable depending on your state where you live. So in North Carolina, if I buy precious metals like gold

or silver or, sorry, classified as investment metals, there's no taxes on it here. Really? No tax. I'm actually going to go look at it right now. Let's go look at it right now. Let's go look at Virginia. There's Wyoming. So each state has one or only some states so far? The only certain states so far have them. They are trying to get more states on board. the more people who sign up to want to like the businesses who want to accept them that's what actually helps accrue that state to be able to then start producing them um for example you're at finest finest no okay so yes they are great and they are going to be a lower price but that's like scott stale mint if you look at them they're sitting even higher so each

site is going to set their own price based on on it but here's the thing that's the thing that's the thing. A lot of these sites require you to hit a $150 in shipping or in value to get free shipping. Elsewise, the shipins what eats you up on purchasing these from those sites. Makes sense. You're going to still need to buy several hundred dollars to really make it worth it. You can make the minimum 150, but you might as well try to get a little more out of the shipping type of thing. Exactly. But the thing is, is, you know, they make a calculator. So, There are certain places that like rent fares and stuff up north that I have friends who live, that they actually use the goldback calculators for all of their events because people come in at renfares and they're carrying goldbacks and precious metals because they'd rather exchange in that than actual cash.

Well, I remember hearing about this more than five years ago. So there's no fly-by-night thing for sure. they officially started selling their goldbacks back in 2019. And it's really grown from there. I wish I had freaking got it involved because gold's up 3x since then. And I would have some of the first edition goldbacks. You saw the half ounce for $4.59. That's actually a killer price right there.

On that last site you're on, I think APMX is usually typically a little higher. Okay. Scott's Dalesment is even higher than that. You have to really do your window shopping. So the gold is threaded in. Which part is it? The gold is actually in the entire thing.

Oh my gosh. The gold itself is the entire thing. And what you have here, so it's made of technically three things. You have a gold and a polymer combination that makes the actual thin bill itself. And then the ink stamp that goes on top. Now, the newer ones, like the one you're looking at, that here actually have some security features in it. So for example, if you'll see that little lattice work right there. If you go up just a little bit worth that that is actually a security

feature that cannot be duplicated for both the lines in there. Apparently it had to be like hand drawn for the main one and cannot be computer duplicated as well as they have a black light feature built into the back with the newer bills. So then you cannot for sure you know it is a true gold back because it will only illuminate with a black light. So the older ones from the previous states like South Dakota, I believe, or Montana, they are going to be coming out with newer, newer designs that are also going to have all the new security features in it as well. That's really cool. I got to get some for my collections, if only. And those would be some of the last ones I would sell. I think I would almost do this. But let's say I bought four,

$400 worth, I would spend $200 and keep $200 because I want to go spend it, support the shops, and go meet some people. Right. So when you do that, though, I would look into each denominate denomination. So for myself, for example, I'm not going to say how many of each or how many of what, but, you know, I have up to a 10 denomination. They go higher than that. Okay.

But again, it's going to cost you more money. So as you saw, $50 is $467. Okay. And so forth. So it is an investment. into those pieces, but I couldn't tell you how many halves I have or how many single goldbacks I have, but they are money still sitting in my safe or my wallet or wherever I have them. In the end, it's real gold.

It is. It is real 24-kart gold. Actually, if you'll go to the 100 one right there. Oh, sorry. Oh, that's fine. Actually, if you'll click on that one and zoom in or any of them, just zoom in at the bottom, I'd like people to be able to see. And it also tells you the exact amount of gold that is in each piece.

So, for example, this one, one, one thousandths, no, one five. Yes, one thousandths, three ounce. And then it goes becomes lower and lower. I say lower. The numbers go down because it's a greater amount of gold in that gold back. So this is the lowest one is a one gold back and it's a one one thousand. Oh, they have the halves. You're right.

which is one two thousandths. But if you think about it for people who have seen gold and silver, you'll see the gold foils and they're very thin and tiny. And they're one one thousandths all the way up to one two hundreds or or whatever value. This is the same thing, but it is in an actual physical build that you can carry and trade with you anywhere. Well, anywhere that accepts them. So for example, Matt Dill had said,

I believe where he's at in Utah or somewhere in that area, their local Ace Hardware accepts Goldbacks. Isn't it legal tender in a couple states like Utah and maybe Arizona? So there are several other states that are trying to pass to have it accept it. Florida uses it in a lot of businesses. Texas has only came out with Dallas, but they are going to be releasing more artwork and more bills. DC only did their one time limited.

So that one is more of a collector's item than it is. I mean, you could spend it, but you do have your collector. aspects of it. So if you see a three go back, those are limited edition and collectors. But the rest elsewise is is active currency. That's legit. Very cool. That five. That five is phenomenal. No, next one over Florida. All the swashbuckler. Oh my gosh. I like it. Won't lie.

And then if you zoom in, it's one 500, no, one 200s, I believe. Yep, one 200. And so then, you know, right there it says $47. And it shows you they're actually selling pretty close to actual value. I think maybe it's a dollar higher with them. But yeah, so you are looking at actual money. And regardless of where the money is sitting, the market sitting at, it's an investment. It's a retirement plan and its own, not saying you can retire on.

it, but it gives you the chance of having money put back. So the reason I say go gold and silver is because you're trading money for money. You're not losing it. It's not like buying a bunch of purses or shoes that lose value or the dog could destroy, which not saying the dog couldn't destroy this, but you know what I mean? It hits a point where it's going to hold value, if not increase in value typically. Hey, I've been so very happy with my purchase. is wish I got more back in the day, but you could always wish you had more.

And I'm not selling any time soon, though, even if it goes to twice as high as now, I'm holding it. Breezy, on something like this, so Breezy asked, is there a value in them as far as selling back to a dealer, though? I imagine it is hard to get the gold out. There are ways to actually get the gold out, but once you destroy it, it's no longer going to be this pretty gold back. what's the purpose to melting it down if it's still going to hold its value even in that form. You can sell back to the dealer, but again, it's going to be like selling to anyone else. You probably are not going to get as much.

You're going to probably get maybe right at the value of it versus where, you know, how much ever you spend on it. I don't know. That would be something to ask one of the dealers. I do know, though, with all of the dealers through goldback, if you have a goldback that is torn or crumpled, they have a program in which you can bring that in and it will be replaced with a non-damaged one as well and then what happens is those go back to goldback and will be reprocessed down and turned into more goldbacks

okay that's pretty neat that's pretty cool well there's layers to it there's levels to this game I have a lot of just straight silver nothing fancy that you know I have that with a minimum premium but then I have some fancy stuff, right? Some cool stuff. I put, this is a little bit more in that regard, but it's still pretty practical. And I think just like the, the supporting hard money, supporting, not using the U.S. dollar, the fiat currency, that's worth it a little bit extra premium to me. Yeah. At some point, the dollar is going to completely lose its value. We see it happening.

It's nice to have something back up. Now, I'm not trying to scare people, but I think you should should have at least an ounce on hand just to start with or, you know, the lower denominations that total up to an ounce, whatever it may be, start low. Don't kill yourself. But again, what was it? There was somebody who put out some analytics of what they believed when the dollar crashed, what you should have a certain amount of. I think it was like, what was it?

It was like 10 ounces of silver or five ounces of silver. so much of Bitcoin, so much of gold. You know, there was an analytic scientist who put it out of what those were. And I sat there and it's like, depending on where you're at, realistically, some of that seems a little hard to get like five grams of gold is I think is what they put down. And it's like it doesn't seem like much. But if you're in a low income, that's a little bit of an investment to save up to. Yeah.

and it's not fancy. It just kind of sits there. It is beautiful to look at. But it can, I don't know, the last 10 years before this spike, you're kind of thinking, man, if I had bought some Amazon stock or blah, blah, blah, but no, we're preppers for a reason. We don't trust that stuff. We know that the dollars days are numbered. And we only trust what we can have in our hands when stuff hits the fan.

And that's what physical gold, silver and other preps are. Well, and knowing the value of what you have and what you have. you're doing also barter and trade. I mean, we're not saying that you only have to have gold and silver, but it doesn't hurt to have a little bit put back as a nest egg. Yeah, you don't, well, I'd say you don't drive without your seatbelt, but that's, you're not supposed to drive without you. You take safety precautions wherever you go.

Don't run with scissors. It's best to have something put away for those rainy days, even if it's a small amount, I mean, but don't kill yourself on it. That's the biggest thing I've seen a lot of people. overdo it and then there's silver silver poor or gun poor or ammo poor and it doesn't do anyone any favors if you're rich and everything else but what you need to live well you put it well you need to map it out you need to kind of make a budge and you got to stick to it it's hard especially if you get greedy or you get scared that's where you get in trouble well we as preppers we budget our groceries

We budget our household. You have to do the same with gold and silver as well. You know it. You know it. I got to get out of here, Jordan, but oh my gosh, this has been the best hour of silver. We've geeked out. It's been a lot of fun.

Got to get you back on here, especially as it develops. Can you, I mean, pretty much the whole network knows you quite well, but maybe you can put a quick plug for your show. And when you're next, you have another show scheduled anytime in the near future and stuff like that. I do.

I am actually an early morning host on Saturdays. So I'm here on PBN. You'll see me live, my face live on X, Rumble, and YouTube. And my podcast is Phoenix Survival. I am J. Ferg, also known as Jordan. So anytime you feel free, reach out. We are, the entire network is on all the social medias. But I am reachable on Proton Mel, which is Phoenix-Servival at Proton.m.e.

and I'm on Instagram as well. If you put in Phoenix Dash Survival as well, you'll be able to find me there. Wow, this is super fun, Jordan, really glad to be able to connect this week.

We've got to do it again real soon, making something regular. Yes, sir. Absolutely. And thank you for letting me pop on. I do appreciate it. Oh, you know. Honor was mine.

Hey, silver and gold. I'll talk about that all day every day. So, hey, have a good, good night. And, you know, enjoy the rest of this craziness with the markets going on. Just keep stacking and keep prepping. Absolutely. Have a good one. Folks, that was another great episode, Patriot Power Hour.

We'll be live next week. Next Thursday is the plan. Future Dan will make his return. But as you all know, sometimes we have to do emergency broadcast, special broadcast, so we'll reserve the right, i.e., if they strike Iran this weekend or something, and we might be on a little earlier. Otherwise, we'll be back next Thursday. Y'all have a great one.

Catch you later.