The Prepper Broadcasting Network - PBN 2024 Year in Review PT 2

Episode Date: December 31, 2024

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you're listening to pbm you're a path back to stability here man i really stopped and listened to that intro this morning wow that thing hits that's a that's nice your path back to stability when you do this every single day you know what i mean it feels like uh you're at sometimes it feels like i'm watching PBN rather than, you know, being PBN. You know what I'm saying? Like I hear these sound bites all the time. And, yeah, that one hit, though. Welcome. The commander's on the couch.

The commander is on the couch. I'm coming to you live from the typical broadcast setup, which should not be the case at 9.54 on the Thursday before prepper camp. I should be somewhere on I-95 south, closing in on I-85. I spent 48 hours monitoring the hurricane, 48 hours monitoring intelligence coming out of the area. And when I say monitoring intelligence, I'm going to talk to you a little bit about that. Because the way I do information is everybody. You know what I mean? The way that I do information is I get it from everyone. That's the way I do information is everybody. You know what I mean? The way that I do information is I get it from everyone.

That's the way I do it. I make sure that I'm not stuck on one thing. These are the good guys. Those are the bad guys. Actually, when I'm gathering information, I almost don't even care. I'm a quantity over quality person when it comes to big decisions and gathering intel. That's just how my mind works. I want to be inundated.

I want to be inundated with information because I have an ability, I guess, or something like that. Like, if I dump it in there, what's important will get hung up in the net, right? What's important will get hung up in the net. And basically by noon yesterday, I had a pretty good feeling that I wasn't going to go to Saluda, North Carolina. Just based on what I was seeing. Just based on what I was seeing, around 1-2-ish, my wife alerted me to the fact that her offices in Atlanta and offices in the area were closing. And that a state of emergency had been declared for Western North Carolina. I was watching rain totals.

I was not excited about the amount of the sheer volume of rain that... And listen, I don't want to go over things and scare people. Suffice it to say, to me, it seemed dangerous. Suffice it to say, to me, it seemed dangerous. There were things that could happen to me, my vehicle, and so on. On the way there, while there, on the way home. And it all equated to me saying, see you in 2025. Oh, it stings. Don't get me wrong. It's a stinger. Because the majority of the hosts who are planning on going are there or are en route right now. So they're going to endure. There's no doubt about that. But it'll probably be great stories.

They'll probably have a good time I hope you know that's my hope because now a very big part of my heart is still in Saluda anyway you know what I mean so even though I decided against it doesn't mean that a lot of people that I care about aren't gonna have to deal with whatever the hell rolls through there so it's gonna be a very weird year, man. Very weird year for me. I haven't missed Prepper Camp since 2019. And, you know, we talk about it like we talk about it. And understand that it wasn't an easy decision to make. I consulted many people who were close to me. I consulted many of the hosts. I consulted family members. I even called the campground manager at Orchard Lake.

And just, you know, just as a phone call, an informational phone call, and got information from them. Like I said, I dump it all into this crazy brain of mine, turn on the blender, and that's how I decide these things. So I pulled a lot of intel from a lot of different places, and it just seemed like the best decision for me was to wait until 2025. was to wait until 2025. And that's all I want to say about it, because, look, it's a really weird position to be in, because undoubtedly you're letting people down, which always sucks. But on top of that,

you don't want to shade another person's decision too much. And on top of that, if things do go terrible, like if something terrible happens, then you're going to have the regret of maybe I should have been more forthright. Right? So it's all up in the air until Friday afternoon, basically. For those of you who haven't got the email or didn't hear the communication from Rick, Prepper Camp is a go still, but they are going to be opening later. Actually, let me give you the details on that so you know exactly what the deal is because I know that's just an email. And a lot of people might not have gotten the email or even looked at the email, might be traveling.

So severe winds from the hurricane will be coming through tonight starting 3 a.m. Friday through noon on Friday. The wind will be manageable to set up after 1 p.m., so they're not having vendors or anything set up until 1 p.m. tomorrow when the winds die down. Saturday and Sunday will be nice weather. Two excellent days where you can sell merchandise. He's talking to vendors here. But, yeah, weather delays for for prepper camp um i'm going to advise against anyone setting up

anything until afternoon friday so you arrive there today if you're a vendor speaker uh you know hopefully hopefully uh you waited out you You know what I mean? Let me see if I have the other. The other email was directed at the camp goers. Okay, here we go. Prepper Camp is still on. Where's the delayed opening part? We are here.

If you're concerned about traveling through the storm, you may want to come Saturday, Sunday. Yeah, so I mean, I think that's kind of what we're looking at. Later Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Let me see what the Instagram said. I don't want to give you guys bad information on this. Like I said, the delayed stuff, I was kind of like, eh, because I was already kind of out. Come on, eh.

Hold on, let me look it up. Preppercamp. Those with concerns about the status of Preppercamp 2020, I assure you that we are here and setting up. There will be rain, but the wind will not get strong until late Thursday, Friday morning. By Friday afternoon, the storm will have passed. Saturday, Sunday will be a little rain, sunny. See you at Prepper Camp 2024. Okay. That's the latest, okay? I've given you the latest. That's the latest. What I do have planned, you know, I don't stop. You know what I mean? Like, I have fantasies that,

oh, well, since I'm not at prepper camp, maybe I should enjoy myself for a couple of days. I don't stop. I got phone meetings. I got all kinds of stuff to do today. And as if I didn't have enough to do, even though I'm not supposed to be doing anything, I decided to call Dave Jones up because I know he's got a long and lonely ride. Seven hours is a long and lonely ride. I don't care who you are. I decided to message Dave Jones and I said, you know, I think this is the weekend since I'm not supposed to be here anyway that I'm going to get the quail. Why don't we do a telephone call in quail Q&A between myself and Dave Jones and then we'll

post it, you know. So I'm going to walk through all my questions and concerns and so on. And talk to Dave Jones about them. Before I pull the trigger and get this meat source and egg source. And then we'll go from there. And we'll probably get incredible information. Well, I know we'll get incredible information from Dave Jones. And that'll be that. You know? That'll be that. You know?

That'll be that. You know, he might regret it. I don't know. I don't think he does regret it. But Dave Jones' advice, like when I tell you guys, Dave Jones, prepping advice changed the way I look at prepping. I mean it. Like, it is on repeat when chaos comes. And it really was one of Dave Jones' adages that hammered the final nail in on PrepperCam for me,

and it was too many firsts. You know what I mean? It was a too many firsts kind of situation. I kept looking at my travel plans, looking at the day, looking at the rain, looking at what people were saying. And I just, we had a situation that was far too many firsts for me, you know. So, it is what it is, folks. I'm going to keep it short. This is not necessarily a PBN Daily News.

I'm not doing a PBN Daily News today. I'm going to keep it short. This is not necessarily a PBN Daily News. I'm not doing a PBN Daily News today. I'm doing what I just did. I'm letting you know that the Intrepid Commander is on the couch. There are much bolder men and women out there at Prepper Camp right now. and what I hope, what my hope is, and what my prayer was last night was that we can be laughed at in 2025, right? Is that 2024 can go down in history as the year the intrepid commander wimped out of Prepper Camp and we all got a bunch of laughs off of them. That's the best possible outcome for me right now. You know what I mean?

Something radical happens, storm shifts, gets knocked off course. Everybody has a great prepper camp. I show up next year. They put a dunce cap on me. I make coffee and kiss their feet for the rest of the year in 2025. No, I'll have a great time, and I think they'll have a great time too, I hope. You know, I hope and pray. God, cover our hosts with your grace, please.

Protect them out there. Because if the weathermen are right it's gonna get wild pbn family i really do apologize especially to all of you out there listeners who may be making the journey or have made the journey and i won't get to see you i know the hatter was planning on going out there i'd love to talk to him there's tons of people i see every year that i'd love to talk to i don't know if they're going you know whatever the situation may be uh if you had something planned or you know whatever the situation is i do apologize and um yeah man i hope uh i hope 2025 is a better year you know that's about all i can do on that that note, folks, down below, show description, lifetime membership until the 30th of this month for all.

If you want to get involved in that. Yeah, I don't feel like doing self-promotion at the moment. Not in the mood. All right? I'll talk to you guys later today with Dave Jones, most likely, and tomorrow morning. Okay? Talk to you soon, PBN family. Be safe out there if you're heading, if you're traveling, whatever the situation is.

And, you know, if all goes well, write me hateful and searing and cynical and funny messages. That's what I'd like to hear. Okay? Talk to you soon, folks. Thank you for listening to the Prepper Broadcasting Network, where we promote self-reliance. You're listening to PBN. Your path back the stability.

The great PBN flood is upon us, folks. I have a feeling that it's almost, barring a major collapse that affects the entire planet or the entirety of the United States, there may never be an imminent threat to so many of the PBN hosts as there is at this moment. So first and foremost, all kidding aside, in your quiet time or your free time today, I ask that you say a prayer for the folks there in Saluda because, you know, we want them to be safe.

We want them to get out in a timely manner, safely. The storm has not yet had its way with them completely. It looks to me like, well, let me give it to you straight. I've been watching this thing, I told you yesterday, by Thursday midday. No, I'm sorry, Wednesday midday I knew I wasn't going And I was very clear about that But Since then

And even before then I've become something like a I don't know Like a neurotic parent That's what I feel like Since that moment I have spent I don't know, like a neurotic parent. That's what I feel like. Since that moment, I have spent hours literally watching Asheville news, watching radar, watching newscasts to see what the hell was going to happen and when the hell it was going to happen.

And now it's happening. And I'm still watching it. The scariest stuff is on Twitter. I've seen a poor guy's house roof blow off in Asheville. Terrible. And, you know, now we're also getting information and updates from the ground there at Prepper Camp. You know, my number one concern right now is just that it stops at 2 o'clock Friday. That's when it's supposed to really roll out of town, 2 p.m. Friday, right? So in whatever that

is, five, six hours, it's gone. The sun comes out. And those next two and a half days are i just don't know the terrain and i don't know how it works but i just hope that in the next two and a half days it the rising of the rivers happens and then the receding of the rivers happens you know because i know there's going to be once this thing rolls through there's going to be a time for cresting of rivers And all that, that's how any kind of flood situation works And maybe that Hopefully that's Saturday Saturday we get the high crests Then things go down

Sunday by Sunday evening When people are pulling out That's what I'm hoping for So hope for that with me Like I said In your quiet So hope for that with me. Like I said, in your quiet time, pray for the PBN hosts up there on the mountain. That this thing, that we've seen essentially the worst of it. And that they'll make it home when they're supposed to make it home.

Should I tell you my gut feeling? My gut feeling is that they're in for an extended stay in Saluda. That's my gut feeling. Hopefully that's wrong. Okay. I don't know the area as well. I don't know the alternate routes out of town. I've taken like two routes out of town.

There's not a lot of routes into town. That's what makes me most nervous. You know, I don't know the direction everybody's going or what they're going to run into, but, you know. God willing, they get out there Sunday, maybe midday or something like that. Because I don't know. I mean, tomorrow we'll see what the whole thing looks like. because I don't know.

I mean, tomorrow we'll see what the whole thing looks like. Sort of as I think my responsibility in all honesty at this point as who I am, right, as the intrepid. Hold on. Let me play the sound bite. I mean, I can finally play the sound bite at the right time. The Intrepid Commander. All jokes aside, though, my responsibility at this point would be like to seriously warn you not to go unless i don't know unless something changes dramatically

on the landscape at prepper camp um because right now the the video footage that I'm getting there, it's not a place to go have an event right now. Who knows? The drainage and all that, hopefully it's quick, and I'll pop on and let you know. I'll be getting videos and stuff. Once the sun comes out, once the rain stops, we'll see, you know what I mean, if things start to recede and i'll definitely let keep you up to date on what's going on at orchard lake campground um but if it stays like it is now and and like i said we got hours more of rain or if it gets worse me personally i can't get up on the microphone and tell the listening audience you should drive down there.

You know what I mean? Because it just looks really bad right now. So, yeah, thoughts and prayers. You know what I mean? Let's get these people home safe. They'll have stories to tell. The good thing is they've got each other. The good thing is they've got the brotherhood.

They're eating breakfast right now. The camaraderie. They're going through it together, and that's a plus. That's a plus. It's always good to see each other. Yeah. Another great reminder, Helene. You know, Helene, for those of us lucky enough to have escaped it,

another great reminder, you know, of why we do what we do. And you should, if you're not getting blasted, you should do it too, right? You should take this as an opportunity to say, you know, one thing that I always talk about that I think gets very little play in the prepper world, and I say it because I see it, you know, I say it because I see it. One of the things that gets very little play is evacuation. You know, I always feel like as Americans and maybe at large in the world, humans do a pretty bad job at evacuation. And, you know, life and limb is a thing, you know, so maybe shore that up this weekend, you know, in honor of what is happening and what so many people are going through. Look at your

own plan and say, okay, if I was in this situation, if this hurricane turned this way or went that way and wound up coming to me, what would I do? What would my plan be? If I had to leave in the next 48 hours, what would I take? What could I do? You know, if I knew for a fact that my house would be underwater, what would you do? What would you take? I heard a real, my wife told me this morning about a family that did something I thought was pretty interesting. You know, they were Floridians, so they were well-practiced. They were one of these Floridians that were clearly well-practiced in the art of evacuation. And they basically got movers and, like, storage for their appliances, you know.

So they loaded up all their valuable things and took them, you know them to the highland to storage. And I'm talking all your expensive appliances, your $3,000 smart refrigerator, your range, load that stuff up in your trucks, drive it the hell out of there and drive it back. Again, that might seem extreme to you, but I think it's important to contemplate these kinds of things and what you would do if you're in that situation. Harris is headed to the border amid the chaos of what's happening on the East Coast.

You know she ain't going to be over here, right? Harris saw the hurricane. She said, oh, crap. Now where can I go? California's a wreck. Now the East Coast is a wreck. I guess I'll head down saw the hurricane. She said, oh, crap. Now where can I go? California is a wreck. Now the East Coast is a wreck. I guess I'll head down to the I'll head down to the border. I got to do it.

So she heads Friday to the U.S.-Mexico border in Arizona, looking to recharge her candidacy in a key battleground state where she's losing ground to former President Donald Trump. Look, this is all I'm going to say about you border states, okay? If any of you border states vote Democrat, I might secede from you. You know what I'm saying? It might be better if you just join Mexico, because I have no—I just have no—and of course, we have to assume that the numbers that come in are actually the numbers. But who in their right mind could be living in Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, and saying to themselves, yeah, let's vote Democrat. They'll take care of this border situation. It's been great the last four years.

We've got a lot of new friends. They sleep on our front yard. They sleep in our pools. Every so often, they just come in the front door. So yeah, I'll have no sympathy for you guys if you decide to pull the trigger for Harris down there. In her remarks, she's expected to slam Trump for encouraging Republican senators. Oh yeah, yeah. That's the only weapon she has. She has one weapon at the border, in the border conversation. And it's this idea that Donald Trump, like, forced all the Republicans to not vote for the border bill. And then she can somehow string this, like,

papier-mâché connection between that and the border crisis. Now, granted, that bill didn't even come to fruition until Joe Biden was just about to be, you know, essentially campaigning again. Remember, it was like the spring of 24. of 24. The spring of 24, Joe Biden woke up from a deep sleep and was like, oh, we better get something done on this border three years into it, three and a half. It was laughable. The timing was, the timing was to make you more of an idiot. That's what the timing was. The timing was, let's give these idiots something to get excited about at the border because, you know, I've let them run roughshod for the last three and a half years. I've destroyed everything that was done beforehand, and I've let these guys run roughshod.

So let's give the idiots a little cookie, and then they'll vote for me again. That's exactly what that whole bipartisan border bill was about. It wasn't about protecting you. They were already here. Tren de Agua was already here when he signed that bill. Or when he proposed that bill, whatever. So she's going to go down there and she's going to try to say that the whole border thing, if only Donald Trump had not pressured the Republican senators three and a half years into our administration to do something about the border,

then it would have been a much better situation down there. And really it's just a mean white man doing his thing. And, you know, vote for me. I'll give you free homes and free money and free drugs. And I'll give you free this and free that. And we'll figure out how to convince you, because we know you're dumb, we'll figure out how to convince you that we're going to tax you at a higher rate and give you more quote-unquote free stuff. Yeah, that sounds good. It's a wild world

out there, PBN. I hope you're enjoying your time on it, though, because we have but a short dance in the sun. I'm not going to go on and on tonight. I'm sorry, today, tonight. I do want to introduce you to something, though. I wasn't actually planning on doing this, but I'm very excited. I'm going to throw their freaking link in my show description. What a dummy.

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You'll be hearing much more about them. I'm going to get on with my Friday, folks. It's 930 here on the East Coast, and I got a big day. Got some non-negotiables I got to get out of the way. And then I want to enjoy Friday evening, get into a great weekend. Yeah, that's my game plan. I hope you guys have a good weekend as well. You may hear from me a little more, like I said, as conditions change in Saluda.

I'll give you a heads up. I'll let you know who's dead and who's alive. Just kidding. I'll let you know who. I'll let you know how it goes. You know, like I said, I hope these waters recede and they can somehow figure out a way to cobble together a safe and effective prepper camp, maybe even just on a Sunday. But let's see. You know, I'll keep you up to date. Until then, lifetime membership available till the 30th. You're running out of time.

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But at the same time, man, it was one hell of a week. So if you haven't checked out FaradayContainers.com, go check them out. They do the massive 20-foot EMP-proof containers, but they also do these five-foot workboxes that are probably a little more in your budget and worth taking a look at. EMP-proof, five-foot workbox, steel, you know what I mean? Serious EMP protection. All right, I'm not running any ads. I just did enough ads for the day. I will talk to you guys soon. See ya. obviously it's been a rough week here we are by no means recovered from hurricane helene um we are by no means recovered from hurricane helene and it will be a year at least before um parts of the well like the main parts of the county the um people places people visit like uh you know whether it's tourism or like if you have to go to the county seat to go to the courthouse

or do your banking or something it'll probably be be a year before Newland, North Carolina looks normal. And out in the rural communities where entire families were swept away and killed by the flood, entire homes went down river, entire neighborhoods disappeared, you know, covered and buried in mud. It will be years. We'll be finding bodies for years. So keep us in your prayers, please. Most of Avery County still does not have any power or cell service or running water. And the federal government is making things so much worse. You know, yeah, the National Guard's helped stop the looting and everything, but FEMA's not allowing private citizens to come in and help anymore. And, you know, we've got temperatures going down to the 30s next week.

People are going to starve to death. People are going to freeze, thanks to the federal government, who is stopping private citizens from coming in and helping the people of Appalachia. And you notice when you turn on the television and listen to one of these, like, FEMA briefings or somebody in D.C., they don't even know how to pronounce Appalachian. You know, it is Appalachian. It's not Appalachian you know it is Appalachian it's not Appalachian okay Appalachian is actually a somewhat of an insult it's actually an intentional pronouncing that way began as an intentional insult to the people of Appalachia it's like

you know we're the educated Yankees and y'all are, you know, poor dumb hillbillies. Uh, it is actually Appalachia. You should know that because you're listening to the Southern Appalachian Herbs show. But I'll move on to the plants. Uh, you know, you got to focus. I mean, I keep trying to talk with people. You know, you got some that are still in shock. Um, you got some that are, that are experiencing a lot of anxiety.

And so, you know, I've been recommending Ashwagandha to people. You know, they are actually allowing us to go to the grocery stores now. So you can buy Ashwagandha from two of our local grocery stores, which is nice. And the drugstore in the county seat downtown. When I say downtown, okay, there's one stoplight, okay? I mean, it's a town of like, I think, 4,000 people, you know. But anyway, we do have a couple grocery stores, and we do have a drugstore. Valerian, of course, if you can take Valerian.

Some people have an issue with Ashwagandha, and it usually gives them nightmares. But the best thing you can do say a prayer hope for the best and focus focus on uh something pleasant something to distract you i mean do the work you got to do you know clean up your yard clean up your road try to recover from the storm but um find something uh enjoyable a funny movie. I know this sounds stupid, but it will really keep you sane. I play my mandolin every day for about an hour while I'm listening to the news headlines in the morning and play a little guitar before I go to bed at night. But the main thing, actually, it's kind of funny. But the main thing, actually, it's kind of funny.

You know, I am one of the few around here actually getting a little internet. And I can download videos from YouTube. And it's not something I would normally do. But they put the full run of the Midnight Special TV series on from 1973, I guess, to the end of the show, which is something like 400 episodes. And, yeah, that's basically been keeping me sane. When I, you know, I need a break. It's the evening. I can't do any more outside.

I need to turn my mind off. I'm putting on these old Midnight Special episodes from 1973, and they're fantastic. I mean, the one I watched last night, I mean, check out this lineup. The Bee Gees, Gladys Knight and the Pips, Jerry Lee Lewis, all on the same show. I mean, I'm a huge fan of all three. Blanking out on the other guy that was on there, and that's a shame. He was really good. He was one of the first people to popularize reggae.

You may remember his song, I Can See Clearly Now, The Rain Is Gone. He did that one. That's classic. And then he did a Bob Marley song, you know, before anybody knew who Bob Marley was. The night before that, I think it was Ray Charles, Aretha Franklin, and Earl Scruggs. So, I mean, these lineups are, like, crazy diverse. And, I mean, nobody would put a show together like that anymore. You know, this is, you know, it was still that kind of way when I was a kid. You'd turn on, like, Top 40 radio, and it wouldn't be all one genre of music.

You'd hear some rock, you'd hear some country, you'd hear some soul music, and I always thought that was great as a kid. I guess that changed really in the 90s. I mean, by 2000, everything was so stratified into categories of strict genres that people that listen to one genre of music never hear another genre. And that is such a shame. I mean, I grew up listening to,

oh, I mean, so much Motown and soul music. That was my mom's favorite thing, Motown and soul music, plus Southern Rock, a lot of Allman Brothers, Janis Joplin, she was a huge Janis Joplin fan. A lot of Allman Brothers, Janis Joplin. She was a huge Janis Joplin fan. And plus, you know, country music, jazz, rock.

I mean, there was tons of rock on. And I mean, the older kids were really into punk rock. So I grew up with a huge love of punk rock. And after that, it was the New Wave music of the 80s. You know, like the music from The Breakfast Club. That's phenomenal music. There was, you know, a little bit of disco. There was a lot of, gosh, bluegrass. Sometimes there'd be like some Tejano music on.

I mean, beach music. That's huge in North Carolina. Beach music was born in the Carolinas. So, I mean, you know, shagging at the beach, that's what people love to do around here. You know, not really in the mountains, but that's a rural coastal thing. You know, anyway, I miss that mix of music. And these midnight special shows are fun. So, if you're looking for a distraction, I'm just saying it's really important for your mental health.

If you're not resting your mind, you're going to burn out. And if you're getting anxious and every time it rains, you start having a panic attack or something, that's not going to help anybody. So my advice, if you're in one of these affected areas or something like this comes down the road, always remember, put on a funny movie. Grab a Marx Brothers movie. Listen to some music. Find some, if it's just for 15 minutes, distract your mind and give yourself a mental rest. And there are herbs, like I said, ashwagandha, valerian, skullcap, passionflower, so many herbs that can help kind of relax you.

flour, so many herbs that can help kind of relax you and deal with the situation because, you know, I mean, we're really kind of sitting here thinking nobody's coming to help us. If we don't do it on our own, we're all going to die because, I mean, like I said, it's going to the 30s this week and, you know, people don't and you know people don't have heat people don't have electricity people don't even have running water and you know at least the road main roads are open now so we can get to the grocery store but if you're down a back mountain road you you're probably getting close to starving at this point and nobody's helping us i mean woohoo. Biden says we can have $750 direct deposit into your bank account. Oh, that's great, isn't it? What if your bank's closed, the ATMs are off, you can't withdraw the money and your phone doesn't work because there's no cell coverage. How does that help somebody down

a mountain road? Now it's going to help. It's going to help a lot of people. And eventually, I mean, you know, immediate help, immediate help was all these private citizens flying in and doing airdrops of groceries and bottled water. And for some reason, FEMA and the National Guard are not allowing private citizens to do that in many areas. Now, in some areas, they probably are. Our horrible, jackass Senator Tom Tillis, Our horrible, jackass Senator Tom Tillis, I mean, who is nothing but a pure sellout from day one. I mean, I actually called his office one time as a constituent asking, saying, could you please ask the senator to vote this way on a certain legislation? And the person who answered the phone cussed me out. I mean, I was polite.

You know me. I'm polite, right? Started cussing me out. This is our U.S. Senator. Well, he's over there in Asheville just praising FEMA. Oh, they're doing a great job. Yeah, they're not. And I hope, I don't care. I mean, he's a Republican.

He's worse than any Democrat we've ever had in that office. He's worse than, I don't care if he's a flag-waving Marxist. He's worse than, I don't care if he's a flag-waving Marxist. I'd take a flag-waving Marxist who was honest and actually cared about his constituents over Tom Tillis any day. He's been a sellout from day one. He was essentially installed by the Chamber of Commerce and the National Republican Party. And he does not care at all about the people of North Carolina. And he does not care at all about the people in North Carolina. And I'm telling you, he is the sorriest piece of crap sitting in Washington, D.C.

And, yeah, I'm serious. I called just, could you please ask the senator to vote this way? And the person started cussing me out. I said, wait a minute. I'm a taxpayer. I'm a voter. He works for me. And they said, no, it doesn't work a taxpayer. I'm a voter. He works for me. And they said, no, it doesn't work that way.

He doesn't work for you. And I'm like, no, I'm a resident of North Carolina. He's my senator. I don't care. And I don't work for you either. And starts chewing me out. That's the person sticking up for FEMA. So, yeah.

Anyway, now let's get on to the herbs. I mean, that, let me tell you. When Jesse Helms was in that seat, I could call up Senator Helms, and he would do anything. Anything. He was a friend of my grandfather's. He knew my family name. Boom. Taken care of.

When there were, what was her name? Kay H she was responsive she was a democrat um gosh uh blue uh so many people have filled the two senate seats here in north carolina i can't remember you know they say they took somebody's seat uh you know it's interchangeable um no uh tom tillis does not represent the people of North Carolina. He represents the chamber of commerce and, uh, interests in Washington, DC, um, military industrial complex, big money. Um, yeah, I mean, his whole goal of being in that office is to flood the country with illegal immigrants to work basically slave labor jobs for big corporations. He's a total 100% sellout. And I mean, I would put, I'd rather have a dog in that office

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with author Sarah F. Hathaway and co-host Chen Gibson. Blending survival fiction and fact to bring you entertaining education that will help you dream, survive, and thrive. And now here's your host, Sarah F. Hathaway and Chen Gibson. Hello and welcome back to the Changing Earth podcast. This is episode number 466 and we got one heck of a show for you guys today. We are one week past Prepper Camp today. Hurricane Helene came in and hit us all while we were at Prepper Camp. By the grace of God, we only had a couple of trees come down on the whole property. It was chaos all around us. But we had a lot of the PBN hosts out there. So we thought it'd be a fun show to have everybody on.

Well, not everybody that was there, but we tried to get a lot of us together. So I've got first up Ryan Buford's here with us. Hey, Ryan, what's going on? Hey, how we doing? It's great to see you hear you again anyway yeah yeah we're not worrying about um not getting out this sunday yeah right that's kind of nice right we got old douglas hogan in the house how are you doug what's up sarah i'm well how are you i'm doing good i'm doing good i finally got to calm down a little bit on Friday, so it was a good day. And of course, you know, I always let the ladies go first, so that's why we had Ryan and Doug up first.

Thanks, Sarah. I appreciate that. Hey, you know. So we've got Jordan Smith in the house. Hey, Jordan. Hey, y'all. And we got JB in the house. I'm going to get up my live chat here.

So hi, JB. How are you? I'm fantastic. You're home. You were like the last one. First one in and last one out. You guys got to give JB a hand because, oh my gosh, crazy experience. Yeah, I think she just got home.

Yeah. When did you get home uh friday yeah and when did you first start doing runs out for um gear and stuff for prepper camp this year two weeks before the event two weeks before so this has been quite a month for you two weeks before so this has been quite a month for you quite a month definitely an adventure do it again all right so let's just go around and we'll just kind of talk about you know before um prepper camp i was watching the weather for days and it was clear it was gonna be sunny it was gonna be beautiful and uh wasn't nothing in our way. And then this disturbance starts in the Gulf. So just some of your guys' thoughts on like what you were thinking.

You know, we all still showed up. Some people didn't. And just some of your thoughts on how that process was for you. Go ahead, Ryan. Start us off. So, yeah, I also watched for several weeks ahead of time. I booked my flight, and so I flew in from Washington State, and I booked my flight back in, I don't know, February in my hotel in maybe May or June because I flew into Charlotte and then caught a ride to get over to Prepper Camp. But I was watching the weather and really paying attention, especially the 10-day forecast because that was going to dictate my gear that I was going to bring and changes in that regard.

So, yeah, I was definitely expecting rain this year, but nothing like what we got at all. So I had to change out some of my pack and make sure that I had the right gear on hand to make it through the weekend for sure. How about you, Doug, coming in from Midwestern Boy there? I just changed my microphone up. Can you hear me all right? Yep. Yeah, we can hear you good. Okay. No, so, yeah, I mean, we knew in advance that this beast was coming in. Didn't know how crazy it was going to be. You know, I knew that it was coming inland.

Usually these things don't go so far. They kind of break up and turn into a tropical storm before they get, you know, usually beyond, you know, Florida or whatever. This one had a little bit more juice behind it. You can look at the conspiracy theories and, you know, maybe see how they were saying of the stuff was uh was coerced whether it was coerced a little bit and it seemed to linger i know as as we as we were there i could see that it was uh you know our signals were were in and out and i just feel that it kind of lingered a little bit longer than it should have and i should have been pushing on just kind of almost sat in one spot and just kind of spun over us. Yeah, I agree with that.

Yeah, knowing that it was coming, I came prepared for wet weather. I mean, you know, I had my frog-tog tops and my black waterproof kilt. Your skirt. Your sassy skirt. But you know what? I learned that nothing is waterproof. Yeah, fair. Fair.

I had rain gear with me me so i learned that as well okay jasmine so what actually let's have jordan go first because jordan you're still you're really close so i am and i grew up in the foothills and like i've said on the monday night show and on my show i am accustomed to tornadoes hitting and not tornadoes, sorry, hurricanes hitting, but they usually die down. This is actually the first time a hurricane has ever hit as intensely as it has and kept going. So for us, though, even the forecast, like you said, we weren't seeing it as anything in the news. We're saying once it hit landfall, it would die down, it would pewter out. So for us, I mean, we didn't

see it as a concern. Like I said, I grew up in the foothills of the Ozarks. So by the time a hurricane hits us or even my family or who are here in the Appalachian and Smokies, it's not an issue. So we didn't even think twice about it. I mean, luckily we were safe, but I never got one of those odd feelings. My family and my infant son, we still went. And I tell you what, knowing what I know now, I still would have gone. So, I mean, we were as ready as we could have been, but there was no way for us knowing that it was going to keep going the way it was. But it didn't stop us we came in actually um we headed out Wednesday night at about midnight and got into Orchard Lake probably about 5 12 in the morning so you know for us we were able to get in and then once we figured out what was going on get set up so it was it was one

of those we had no way of knowing what the storm was going to do once we got here right so jb you were almost on the road as that thing was forming like you almost left when it was still clear forecasts how did that yeah how did that transpire like finding that out as you're going back and forth well i'm not gonna lie i i didn't know until i got there that it was going on because like until like it started pinging up in our back room chats uh but i was just going along i was preoccupied with my own little too busy yeah by getting there. So I was like, gung-ho that I was going to make it to this thing.

Because I had all the audiovisual for the event. So I was making sure that I was going to meet my deadlines and driving the whole way through. And then when we got there, because I had to ditch most of my preps in my car in South Dakota along the way. We had to pick up new stuff when we got there. And when I got there, we just got, like, the warnings tropical storm coming through, and it really wasn't anything that was alarming to me. Right. When the storm actually hit on Thursday night,

I was staying in Asheville in a hotel the clarion and i was looking out the window and i'm like oh those trees are moving it's just kind of like at home because we get big storms yeah off the coast and used to seeing our trees bend so i wasn't too worried it wasn't until i got on the roads and I was like, whoa, this is bad. Yeah, coming from Texas, we saw what was happening down there. And, I mean, we're in Texas, so there's lots of hurricanes that come up through. And when you're on the outskirt of a hurricane, like, it can be going by and you don't even know it's there. So from what we can see, it was forecasted to come into florida be a problem in georgia um and then go up and

break up over the mountains and head out into like the ohio valley so we were like you know you could be right on the edge of a hurricane and never even know it's there so as long as we get out ahead of it you know going to georgia we should be fine so we loaded up took off early so we could get a jump on it um we did hit rain in atlanta on wednesday night and then came in thursday and i mean we were playing uno and having fun on thursday night um So it was quite an unexpected moment, I'd have to say, of like just, you know,

I don't think anybody expected it to hit like that at all. I do have to say that it was disaster all around us, guys. All around us was destroyed and landslides and we went out on some of the roads to try and go back road home and it was absolutely just destroyed

and so i do have to say that we had what was the grace of god we have no clue though we had no we had no idea service there was no way for us to know the level of devastation. Like for me, honestly, it was like one of those heavy storms, like I grew up with trees fall. So beyond that, I mean, I didn't realize the the amount of devastation after the fact until after the fact because we couldn't get any news in yeah no and even with the the not the skynet but it was even with starlink we could get a message out and get someone to make a call out but we still had no clue and like everybody else was really assessing their current status at that point as well and they couldn't really tell the world what was going on either right then so uh you know friday we did a late start i think it was a great that we did our classes and stuff on saturday because the people that were there that were already tucked in that just spent that night in tent city they would have been devastated if we didn't you know pull it off oh absolutely i

mean we were already there though i don't think people realize is a lot of us just like jasmine we were already there if not the week before if not the day before you know there are people who come in specifically an entire week before prepper camp to enjoy their time there was no way of knowing once you get up on that mountain signal is sparse to begin with especially for verizon or at&t unless you're t-mobile i don't get signal up there yeah i hardly do i hardly do it's got to be like a hot spot out wi-fi call so um doug you came and got me on friday we're just about to nap out that was after big storm. We were all parked in a pack. The fields were just

slosh city. So that was interesting. What do you guys think about your classes that day? Just some of your personal experiences there? Because our beloved Prepper Camp event, we had to pull it off. um some of the feedback there yeah so for those that are listening don't know like uh vendors and instructors expected to be there a day early vendors specifically i believe it got to be a day early because uh so we were supposed to be you know teaching uh starting friday morning right uh so we got to be there thursday which is why we're all there early um even if like uh like what joy was saying you could be there a week early but then there's got to be there a day early so i was there thursday

and yeah uh you know we were supposed to set up that thursday but because the weather we didn't set that thursday in fact originally we're supposed to set up at 1 o'clock Friday, and that ended up being like 5 o'clock Friday. And so we ended up getting, you're right, it was all slushy. Like, there was the field, the pond, the lake or whatever you want to call it, you know, it's a rather large pond, but the dock was at one point underwater, and nobody could find it. The boats were gone. I think they were attached and they were missing. And the trees and, you know, the things around the pond lake that people thought were normally on the ground,

you couldn't see the base of them anymore because they were under the water. However, you know, where we were vending in our tents, you know, it wasn't dry by any stretch of the imagination but uh the ground was slushy right and then you see you see people like i think it was jordan i think you were wearing like what was it crocs or flip-flops or something you and no i was in i was actually in children-sized uh rain glosses because i can't find my shoe size to save myself ej snyder was there naked and. He walked around with his size 14 freaking feet. Every time he stepped in, every time he stepped down, all the

water would suck out from everywhere around the campground and just kind of go down into his foot. Then he'd let up and come back out again. He threw those shoes. Yeah, he was completely barefooted. He was just walking around barefooted. I wish, looking back, that probably would have been the way to go because

my socks, I went through, I brought extra socks probably would have been the way to go because my socks. I went through. I brought extra socks because I knew it was going to rain, but I went through them all. And I was actually hanging them up in the truck to dry some of the ones that got wet earlier in the week. I took me two days when I got home to clean the smell out of the cab of my truck. It was just musty, freaking sweaty, wet clothes smell. It was gross. And Brock's like, he's a Marine, and he only brought two pair?

Way to go. No, no. I brought two pair of long, long boot socks because I expected two days of rain. Like I said earlier, none of us were expecting to see him linger as long as it was. Yeah. But I brought two pair of boot socks, so I expected two days of rain. And then I brought more. I wear ankle highs with my tennis shoes.

Yeah, so I brought lots of those just because I like to keep my feet dry. I knew that the ground was going to be a little wet, but I didn't know I was going to step in literally a creek running to help somebody set up their canopy. Yeah, I was like, what happened to you? You're a mess, man.

You saw me. I was normal, right? I was all fairly dry, at least on my knees. And then all of a sudden you see me and I'm covered. Next time you see me, I'm covered in mud. I just got this brown clay substance all over my legs. It was gross. So what happened was there was this guy by himself trying to pull this giant canopy.

It's really a two-man job to open those things up. And he was walking around it and he was laboring. I'm like, oh God. So I went to jump over this little creek and land on the other side. And the other side which should have been hard, I sank. I'm tall. I'm 6'5".

And I sank from my foot to my knee. Just straight down into this clay. It was like quicksand. Yes. And that just like it made the slurping sound when I pulled it out. Oh, man.

That's what I get for helping you. For helping. Yeah, right. Ryan. My partner. Oh, go ahead. Go ahead, right. Ryan. My partner. Oh, go ahead. Go ahead, Jamie. Oh, I was going to say my partner was rocking the Ziploc bags for his feet because he didn't listen to me.

Yeah. Yeah, he was. I actually have a picture of that posted on my Instagram because it's smart, but it is definitely entertaining but like like Doug I had the same issue is I was walking was well before the port-a-tons but I took a step and I sunk all the way down to my knee though it was it was just interesting and I'm not six five I'm only five foot two so for him it probably would have been ankle deep but for me it was all the way up to the knee yeah ryan now i gotta hand it to you because we all had vehicles um i haven't had two vehicles there because ellen drove one of my cars over there um so and i gotta give it to man because

you like weathered that storm you didn't even have a vehicle there. Talk about some of your gear and how you pulled that one off. So, yeah, so I was hammock camping. Everything that I had with me, I carried on the plane. I didn't check anything. So I had a backpack. I use a, oh, gosh, what's it called? Hyper light mountain gear. They make dry bags that are backpacks

that are extremely light um so i had that and before i left i realized that you know we were looking at anywhere from 10 to 12 inches of rain and the day that i was getting ready to drive to go to the airport to get on the plane and go. I made a last minute decision because I was like, is this going to work if I take my normal leather boots and go, or am I going to have to do something else? And at the last minute I decided, you know what, I better take rubber boots and just deal with it. Because having, yeah,

having rubber boots and being slightly uncomfortable is better than being you know having leather boots and being extremely uncomfortable with wet feet so i decided at the last minute to just go ahead and suck it up and wear weather rubber boots through the airport and um i packed a weatherproof carpa parka carpa carpa, parka? What is that called? Parka. Parka. Yeah. Poncho.

There we go, a poncho. And I got one. That was an actual, it's a style of poncho that actually transforms into a tent. And it's made by One Tigris. I believe it's a company out of Salt Lake. That thing's pretty cool because it covers your whole bag and everything. For year one at Prepper Camp, I figured out that my go bag is not waterproof. So that had to be rectified.

Everything that's in there now is wrapped up. Yeah. And before I left, I went and bought two more dry bags that are made out of a fabric called Sil Nylon, S-I-L Nylon. And it's kind of a, it's like Dyneema, but it's a little bit different. But it's going to be, I'm going to need to pack stuff in dry bags instead of like, you know, just shoving it in the pack. So I, I kind of went above and beyond to keep my stuff dry and that alone saved me because I, oh yeah. So between the poncho and the rain boots and the dry bags and the dry backpack and all that kind of stuff, I actually had no problems with keeping my gear dry.

The only issues that I had were the clothes that I was wearing. So I just wound up, you know, setting that stuff aside and hang drying it. But a lot of that was last minute decisions that I made to my pack. Good ones. Yeah. That was impressive. I was like, man, you don't even have a car. Like, at least we had like a reprieve area for a second, you know, to be able to get out of that rain and just have that zone. Yeah.

And one thing I did as soon as I got there, too, is I realized that. So I went from Tent city over to one of the campsites because they offered it up there was a couple of cancellations and i was like shoot for 15 bucks more like let's just do it um and actually i had some extra gear with me and i i'll talk about that later in the show um because i wound up loaning something out to to somebody but anyways um so i realized that this thing was coming and it's going to be a challenge to stay dry. And I've done dry runs in wet environments before, so I knew what it was like. I've tried to start fires in the rain before.

And so for me, this wasn't my first rodeo dealing with outdoor camping, minimalist, outside in heavy rain. And I did all that in safe environments, like in my own house. But this was altogether different and something that was just like, you know. And, you know, my trailer didn't even hold up to the 18 inches of rain or whatever that came in. It was a lot, and it came in really fast and really quick. So, yeah, I can't, yeah. I mean, every single piece of gear was put to the test so i want to address um before we get into the gear because we're going to talk to you guys about

some of the the tips that we found out as as we went along but um before we go there i wanted to talk a little bit because there's been some negative attention towards Rick and Jane about not calling the event off. And so I wanted to touch base with that a little bit because first of all, it really bothers me. Every year of their life, they take the time to host this event. And if anybody thinks that they're making money at this excursion, they're absolutely 100% wrong and have never come to the Saturday night event to listen to Rick and Jane talk about their experience. And most years are barely breaking even to get the expenses paid. The tickets hardly ever go up. And they've been doing this for a

decade long. So this was year 11. So if you can imagine taking the huge part of your life and just dedicating it to making sure that people have access to people who are instructors and can teach and provide the safe space and they never make a big deal out of it and they don't want press there, they just do this because they feel driven to do that. And they took a lot of heat over the fact that they didn't cancel the event so a little background you know you don't just order this like there are huge tents there we almost lost the main tent actually it's the size of a house out there in a field and everybody was out there dragging it down but you don't just order this stuff in one week and get it delivered the next week. This planning goes in well ahead of time.

The hurricane, on the other hand, was the surprise event. And for anybody who was like Rick was encouraging people to come in even when it was hurricane, I have to strongly disagree with that because Rick was concerned about his own house and his house being there and his animals still being alive it was very much a scramble moment and you can look after the fact and say well this that and the other but um you know you just never know and this is not something that can be planned in a day or canceled in a day there's people that were already there there's people that are coming in from way across the country from other countries um so i don't know how you guys are feeling about that but that's just like my feeling

on it i would love to hear your guys's opinion on um just how heartless yeah some of this has been so i have seen the negative effects and i mean the negative comments and i don't think people realize this really was an act of god this was not something rick jane or the rest of us could have ever imagined or even have foreseen like i said i grew up in the south i grew up in the in the lower half of the mountains and i can tell you it was an odd thing but the amount of grief they're getting i have firsthand saw a vendor come up and approach rick and ask so what's the call and rick told him i can't make that for you right now we're waiting to see what the weather does once it clears on friday he goes but if you feel it is the best thing for you and your family, then you're welcome to leave. He never made anyone stay.

He never told people that they had to come on. They just, when we had enough signal to get messages out, just like they did, it was literally, we're not closed yet. We had no way of knowing. So I think they made the best call for the situation they were in and pardon my language, but it was one of those damned if you do and damned if you don't because what would have happened if they had canceled it and nothing had happened in it through past right then they were like oh what are you guys preparing for blah blah blah blah and that would have been just negative also when it comes everybody should know that um rick and jane and them are still without power, still without internet. So if you've been messaging them and you haven't heard a response yet, they don't know what's going on.

They can't get messages. They're on very limited resources right now. So as soon as things are back up and running, you know they're going to be reaching out. They're nothing but good-hearted people. So just please be patient with them. They are still in the middle of this. They didn't get to drive home to their home that's not in the disaster area.

We did. So just please be patient with them and understand that they are going through it right now. Right, because they live in that area. But I honestly think they made the best call. made the best call and for the people who were already there especially the people who weren't as prepared as the rest of us or not everyone can be as awesome of a prepper as ryan and i i mean that in a positive but it is definitely one of those things where i think it came about because i still had an amazing class both on saturday and even though sunday was not as much of a turnout i had a great one-on-one with someone that i i would do it again yep and um prepper camp being in there we got

roads cleared before they were supposed to ever get cleared one of the ladies right down the street uh went into labor during the storm she was able to get out to a hospital that didn't have power but still she was able to because proper camp was going on there's differences that we made in the community right i had a prepper i mean not a prepper i had a local come up who attended proper camp and tell me what y'all get did we thank you because emergency services would have maybe gotten to us at earliest monday or t. Then when I came down the mountain on the way out, I had this gentleman ran into

we were just trying to see if we could find milk for Jericho. He even said what we did helped because of the fact that he had to cut himself out of his driveway. He said that it made it so much easier for him to get down to be able to help

people because he figured he was going to be spending the next two days because he said the mountain does not get touched until about a week after any sort of disaster right and so for him he him and then the other lady who was further up the mountain which they were all safe fortunately be us being where we were was a blessing. But they said they were able to check on the elderly and the sick and the individuals who lived on the mountain who would not have gotten aid from any emergency services for almost a week if we hadn't cleared the road. So Prepper can't be in there, no matter how negative people want to put it.

I'm sorry you went through the disasters you went through. But as a group, we made a difference even locally. And you know what? That small difference made a big difference just for those lives right there. Right. What about you, Doug? How was your class and how did you know how to everybody respond? What was your feelings there?

I think I had good attendance i'm gonna let it whoever i think ryan was there i'm not sure if anybody else in this here i didn't make i was gonna come the next day and then yeah yeah it was hard to tell that there wasn't going to be a next day right um it was just those things but um just for the audience too so So the audience knows next week, we're going to do your class on the podcast. So everybody gets to experience it. Cause it's, uh, I wanted to experience it that bad. So stay tuned next week. Okay. Go ahead. Sorry. That's okay. No, I, uh, actually, actually it was surviving martial law for anybody that's wondering. And I actually, a long time ago, uh, several years ago, I was, uh uh vending as an author um at sensible mountain preparedness and i learned that if i if i if i let me suppose it oh that i you know the table you had to pay for your vending table but i found out that if i was just to teach a class

that i would have to pay for a vending table oh that's a good deal so i put together surviving martial law which was an idea that i had been working on anyway for some time because i wanted to put something together and uh it was it was a success um it was actually originally a one-hour course which i i had way too much content to cover and i i ended up going over and the people that was there to help kind of regulate the time keeping and all that uh came up and say you mean your time is done and I had so much he literally got booed because he had to come up and get me and they wanted me to keep talking right yeah um yeah it was a good time right and they understood that so they gave me the next time they gave me a three hour class I'm like yes so did I have enough content for three hours?

No, but I made enough content for three hours, right? So it ended up being so good that I wrote it into a book. And so this has been, I've been teaching this for years, surviving martial law for at least probably five years, I'm going to guess. And it's always a success, and it's always got good turnout, and I always get a lot of good compliments out of it. And this class was the first time I ever taught this at Prepper Camp. And I originally pitched the idea to uh to rick and rick actually you know i guess he told you that he looked he really enjoyed the content that i gave him and he had emailed me back and told me that it was good stuff and um all the all the chairs were filled as i recall and there was

people standing up even um even though we had extra chairs that kind of, you know, people could grab and kind of sit down. Yeah. Yeah. We didn't want to sit at home. I didn't have, I don't know, I wasn't really thinking about it, but I probably could have told you, hey, you grab a chair and sit down, you know, just kind of make yourself at home. But I felt that I had a good turnout and I'm all, you know, when you get around to Ryan, let him talk about if it was a good content or not.

But I did enjoy teaching. It's something I enjoyed talking about and it had a good had a good turnout yeah yeah i wouldn't uh i wouldn't have changed it like i say i think uh everybody that was on my classes definitely enjoyed it and uh i think it was a you know a magnificent distraction as well for them because here they are you know it was a rough night in a tent and uh at least they got to you you know, have the, some of the experience because a lot of speakers didn't make it in and things like that. So like I say that nobody was encouraging them to get there. It was, you know, you got to do what's right by your family.

And when I wanted to leave on Sunday, that's exactly what Rick and Jane told me is you got to do what's right by your family and get where you need to go. Because we weren't sure with gasoline what that trip out was going to look like. Right. It had been, you know, it had started raining again, like the day of. Saturday was our one class. And then it started raining again that afternoon. And it wasn't going to stop.

It was going to keep raining. It rained all night that night. And, you know, it was raining the next morning when we got up and conditions were worsening from what i was understanding outside because the ground was already saturated and that just means that more trees are going to fall yep maybe maybe strong winds had died down yeah more landslides too yep yeah so we got land okay maybe the strong winds are gone but the the ground at this point was was so vulnerable um you know there's no integrity in the soil anymore so that's why with not only with the wind but the weak root systems now because the ground had been it'd been raining

for two we are now on the third day of rain and there was flooding everywhere and the trees were falling it was it was we were even if we wanted to leave, we couldn't have originally. Because we know that people went out, from our group went out, to cut some of these logs that were falling, trees that fell over the road, just so people could get in and get out. And it wasn't just us, but these roads go, they pass through Pepper Camp, go to other residential areas. And that made a way for these other people that were in the area.

And so just to touch on what you said and what Jordan said, you know, this is still America. And he didn't make anybody stay. He didn't cancel either, which is fine. You know, if I want the opportunity to make a decision on my own, if something's going to be open and I want to take advantage of it, that'd be my call. It's nobody else's fault. For example, we're all preppers, right? I was ready for this. I was prepared for this.

This is a good chance for me. Yes, I know that I'm going to a natural disaster zone. I understood that. As an adult, I'm making that decision, and it's not nobody's fault but my own to step up and to face that challenge. It's no different than anybody else that goes on these television shows these survival shows you know they know they're up to the test they know what they're going to do when they go out there and they're walk around naked in africa or or freezing somewhere you know in in canada or you know i'm saying they know that the challenge they're facing and they're making that decision on their own to

put their own skills to the test and i appreciated that opportunity ryan jb you want to add anything else i mean i yeah go ahead jasmine oh i mean i i would do this all again i mean i was definitely best and uh throughout the whole trip and i found out things that worked well and what didn't. And really, I had the tenacity to just push through it, which was really good. And some of my preps helped people along the way. I was able to get my Starlink up and running at a hotel that was running off of generators. They had no internet. was running off of generators. They had no internet. There was like 480 plus people that didn't have access to the outside world and were panicking because they couldn't

get a hold of their loved ones. That's so amazing that your hotspot could do that. So cool. It was amazing. I'm sold on Starlink. I love it. Because I was able to provide those people that, that sense of comfort and that normalcy and being able to get out to the outside world. It also helped us get a hotel room, which was inadvertent. Right. But, um, it was, I would do it all again because we got to help the locals in the process of it.

And we were thanked so much because of our presence there. Right. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I don't think that Jasmine's from washington state 2500 miles to this campground in saluda north carolina in doing that she provided all the audio visual components for the for every single tent at the event so that we as presenters could do our thing. And I was kind of like, well, shoot, if my whole thing hinges on when I teach freeze drying for survival, it doesn't exactly lend itself to anything else. If I don't have a machine sitting there in front

of me, which I'm not putting on a plane, I can't do a whole lot without a presentation or some sort of visual. And my ability to do that was 100% due to the efforts of JB. And, you know, for her to be able to do that and also be able to connect us with the outside world. Yes. I mean, you think about what we were able to accomplish just on that hillside with communication. We had people with chainsaws. We had people with food. When other people, because we were supposed to get food vendors that never showed up.

Well, guess what? Porkchop had all of his stuff there. that never showed up well guess what porkchop had all of his stuff there all of a sudden oh jasmine left we got to get her back because i want to make sure that that her um her company gets a shout out because she started a company to be able to do this for rick and jane and you know this is pretty significant really uh for her to be able to do that and keep us going so um it's beyond the entertainment i believe beyond the entertainment i'm almost perfect so yeah i'm i'm trying to pull it up right now i actually do have it in here i'm just trying to find it real quick yeah and she broke down on the way there had to get a u-haul and go drive there then fly back to south dakota or then take the U-Haul back to South Dakota,

then fly in there, then get a rental car from there, and then that's when the rental car broke down on the way out to Henderson. Yeah. Yeah, and then she ended up in South Carolina for a while. But for those of you who are interested in reaching out to her as far as her business, it is info at B-O-N-D. Sorry, I'm spelling that b-i-o-n-d-i entertainment.com throw um throw the link in the chat too if you're i think you're there perfect yeah yeah throw the link in the chat and i'll put it on the blog too yeah absolutely yeah it was flawless from from my

seat as a presenter at the event and from what I was hearing from other folks. I mean, it was unbelievable the difference just having her there for the presentation. And the workers. But also. Yeah. Yeah, go ahead. The amount it took off of Rick and Jane and the entire Prepper Camp crew, it was a huge difference from the year before to that year. Like, she did phenomenal.

Yeah. So, I mean, on my classes, I think I did pretty well as far as things go. Most people appreciate my class and the things that I talk about when it comes to freeze drying. And I actually had a couple that reached out to me a couple days after i got home just checking on me just to make sure that i was okay and that i had actually made it home and that's kind of the caliber of the people that attend this event um so i was really impressed with that for the folks that actually showed up and i was you know i was kind of watching. So essentially I was a sitting duck flying in 2,500 miles from home. There's not much I can do if something goes wrong.

I mean, I'm totally at the mercy of whoever's willing to give me a ride until I can get a point to where I can get another ride or a flight out or whatever. So I was kind of coming at this at a different angle. other ride or a flight out or whatever. So I was kind of coming at this at a different angle. And so knowing that and being able to be relaxed and just be like, meh, I guess we'll see where this goes. I think that had a different perspective for me. I mean, it allowed me to just kind of sit back and watch these things happen and just be an observer observer and some of the things that i i really latched on to were the concepts of who is actually showing up who is going to do this the and i made it a point to thank the people who did show up to my presentation and you know i tried to do what i could to go to other folks and And Doug's was an awesome presentation.

First time ever. I mean, did a great job. But I think, you know, in some cases, it makes these are the types of events that separate the wheat from the chaff, as they say, where you start to realize when people are willing to show up and when they're not and what kind of an impact that's going to have and some people think you know one of the key people that i i cued in on that did not show up um was one of the guys whose main presentation and he's been a contributor for ages is about having a group. But one of the things about a group is that you support the group, you know, you stick it out. And I think people don't realize that when things go south, some people don't show up. And you have to realize

that that's going to happen. You know, you're not going to um and i mean even the people that are there now i wish i could have stayed longer i mean i'm fema certified and ics 100 200 300 700 whatever but that doesn't necessarily mean that um that that yeah we are out of it you know does that make sense it does completely because when i got home it was almost like like survivor's remorse or something i was like how lucky am i that i'm like over here worrying about like having to you know clean my trailer out and file a claim and get gear together you know when like they're still stuck in it and i'm just like uh it was just kind of surreal. Hello, everyone out there in Internet Radio Land. This is Dave Jones, the NBC guy.

And I don't know why I came up with this tip. I woke up this morning and this is stuck in my brain pan. So I just thought I'd get it out there. And that is performance-oriented training, or the acronym we used in the Army, POT. They say, what are we going to do today? Oh, we're going to do some POT. You know, and it was a big joke. But performance-oriented training is, and you may have already participated in something like this,

very small, hands-on tasks that you can do. And it's designed to get you tuned up, get you ready, get you thinking, like loading and clearing a weapon. Very small tasks like that. Of course, use dummy rounds. Okay, do not use live rounds. There's an accidental discharge that could occur. So use dummy rounds. Applying a bandage, applying a tourniquet, and then you would do this in like what we

called a round robin type affair where you go to a different station, there'd be a table and boom, you perform the task. And it was a pass fail kind of thing. So you either did it right and got a pass, go, no go, or you got a no go, go or you got a no go, which means you need more hands-on training with that particular skill. So it's designed to get a lot of training opportunities in a short period of time. And you'd get like maybe two minutes, three minutes at a table. two minutes, three minutes at a table. The instructor would tell you what the task was and boom, you'd do it. And then they'd blow a whistle

and you'd rotate to the next one. So I don't know why that is stuck, but if you can use that in any way, think about small individual tasks, hands-on that you can perform in front of someone evaluating you and have a bunch of them. Do this, now do this, now do this, now do this. That's POT, Performance Oriented Training

and that's your Prepper Tip for the day. Well, hello, and welcome to another episode of The Strange Truth. I'm your host, Carl B. And what a two weeks, right? About two weeks it's been since I've, you know, since my last podcast. It's been insane. I had to miss last week because, you know, we had a lot of little things going on with the family. We took a big trip to Legoland. It was a day trip, but it took a lot out of me to go and walk around Legoland there in Muncie for a good part of a day. for a good part of a day.

But the kids enjoyed it and everything else. The water park there is great, although you have to reserve your time slot in the water park. So that was good. But it's been crazy, right? We had the attempted assassination of Donald Trump. You know, we had, you know, President Biden dropping out of the election for November. And he basically gave the nod and basically said, OK, you know, Camilla. All right, Harris, you know, uh camilla all right harris uh you know she's gonna

take his place um and you know so it's it's been a surreal couple of uh couple of days um starting with the assassination attempt on donald trump you know i'm i was we were watching something on television when you know my daughter she was online were watching something on television when, you know, my daughter, she was online, she was on her, she was on her phone and she was like, well, I think something happened to Donald Trump. And my wife, she got on her phone and she was like, yeah, I think there's been an assassination attempt and everything else. And, you know, it became pretty surreal, right,

that somebody would actually do this. But when you really consider the rhetoric that has been drummed up, and they say a lot about Trump. They say a lot about what a horrible person he is, what a bad person he is, what a racist he is, and this and that. person he is, what a bad person he is, what a racist he is, and this and that. And, and it's, you know, well, we have to say the guy is into himself, I think he is a narcissist to a certain degree. But I racist, I don't think he is, I think that, that that's, you know, pretty much the, the, the mainstream media running their narrative. And I think that, you know, pretty much the mainstream media running their narrative.

And I think that, you know, they kept comparing him to Hitler. They kept saying all these really bad things about him instead of really just talking about the guy's policies and what are his policies. But instead of that, it's all this attack on the man, these ad hominem attacks, right? So when you look at the way how this election is really playing out, I think with the Republicans, you see more of, okay, here's this person's policy, here's my policy, right? I think on the other side, right? And it's, you know, Trump started some of this, and then it got way out of hand, I think on the other side, right? And it's, you know, Trump started some of this and then it got way out of hand, I think. You see the mainstream media has taken up the mantle of

we'll attack the man, right? Because we don't like him. And we're not really going to talk about any of his policies, but we'll tell you, you know, we'll say he's lying. And a lot of times if you fact check the fact checkers, you realize that the fact checkers are the one that got it wrong. Right. Which is incredible to me because they're supposed to have million dollar resources behind them. A lot of these, you know, online platforms or news platforms or, you know, the well-established mainstream news platforms.

They're supposed to have people that can go through and look at tapes and spot check everything. And you realize that they're all just lying. They're all just lying. This podcast, we're going to, my last podcast was election, election, election, right? And lo and behold, I didn't realize that it was just going to take such a huge turn. Because in my last podcast, which was about, what, over a week ago, I talked about, you know, how the election was shaping up. And I gave my take that, yeah, you know, there's going to be civil unrest. There's going to be the usual, you know, unrest and violence, you know, that comes with these

elections now. It's really sad that we're at a point in our history where we cannot have elections without violence, right? It used to be that here in America, right, you'd have the Democrats and the Republicans pretty much and they would disagree on a lot of things. But and they would go after each other. Right. You know, policy wise. And sometimes even would they would try to assassinate each other, you know, in terms of their character. Right. Not, you know, like in terms of, you know, taking another person out. Right. They would go after somebody's basically like their character.

And a lot of times that would work. But it's just incredible to me that we're at this point now where, you know, every election, you know, especially since Donald Trump has been part of the election process, every single election there has been violence um you know rioting um in in one way or the other you know um when the republicans the the one riot that the republicans committed which was the january 6th riot uh a lot of people went to prison for long periods of time and that was called an insurrection when all those people rushed the building. And it was really spun into this, it was a huge media event,

and it was used to go after their political enemies. When the Democrats rioted, it was called what? It was, you know, a lot of the media deemed it as, you know, justified, you know, justified rioting. Right. And although they burned cities and caused billions of dollars worth of damage. Right. No one was ever held accountable for any of those riots. Isn't that amazing? Right. You know, you had one riot from the Republican side. Yeah, they did rush the Capitol building

and yeah, you know, they did things that they weren't supposed to do and people went to prison. You had riots all through the summertime where, you know, federal buildings were attacked, you know, courthouses were attacked, cops were attacked, you know, a lot of people got hurt. Some people got killed and no one was held accountable.

Right? No one was held accountable. Americans are kind of, a lot of Americans lived through it, saw it, processed it over the time. Because when the media is coming at you 24-7, especially if you're that type of person that you, you know, you're always like going online and looking at stuff and everything else, especially if you're a Democrat, right? Of the progressive bent you know um then they get online and they read all of this junk produced by the mainstream media and then i think that with a lot of hindsight some of these people have been looking at some of that stuff and going like i've been i've been duped and i think that's why you know donald trump has some of the support that he has now, because a lot of people realize that they were not, it was not done in a truthful way. They were misled.

And I think that's the problem now that the left, the progressives are having. And we're going to talk a lot more about this. And we're going to talk a lot more about this. You know, the main gist of this podcast is and, you know, this is going to be the one and only time that I really spend any time speaking about this issue. And then after this, I'm going to be not going on in the world, whether it be the war in Russia, what's going on with China and Taiwan, you know, what's going on with our food, right? Because the ongoing war on food, what's going on with inflation. I'm going to be talking about these other issues, really. The election, not so much because, you know, I think I think it's so toxic. think it's it's so toxic it's so toxic that i don't think that it's gonna you know for my own you know well-being i don't think it's a really healthy thing for me to spend my time on so um you know what so let's go to the uh let's go to our sponsors let's hear from our sponsors first and then um i'll you know

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All right. And, you know, if you like what you hear, then I would highly recommend that you, you know, you're can help you in your prepper journey, whether you're a beginner or if you are an old hand at it. You know, I think the times are so uncertain now that if you are here listening to this, if you've been over to BBN, you know, then I think that, yeah, you've woken up and you realize that, hey, I've got to really start taking care of myself and of my family. And, you know, this is really seriously important. So, you know, I'm going to go over to Bbn and and chat them out okay all right so getting back to you know the election and what's going on and this crazy two weeks that we've had right um i'm going to start with uh let's see uh the secret service right um your director, Dr. Cheetle, right, and, you know, she gave her testimony, and it was a really botched job, you know, that allowed, uh, you know, the, this guy to, um,

to be able to, you know, shoot and kill people and, and, um, almost assassinate Donald Trump. You know, for me, this whole thing is just a tragedy. You know, what could have led this 20-year-old boy, right? Because that's what he is. You know, we call him a man and everything else. But when you look at his picture, everything about him, this 20-year-old boy, right? What could have led him to go up on that roof, a man and everything else but when you look at his picture everything about here just 20 year old boy right what what could have led him to go up on that roof point a rifle at somebody and and

try to kill him uh you know what could have been uh what could have been the driving factor behind that and that's always going to be you know kind of a mystery until we have more information um if you notice that they haven't really released much on this guy. They have his phone. I'm sure they have every they have all these electronic devices and everything else. And, you know, and while while, you know, it's really amazing to me, too, that the mainstream media could not bring themselves to just say the truth that what everybody witnessed that Donald Trump was shot at. That, you know, a lot of them just could not.

They're so down, you know, the lying rabbit hole, right? They're so, it's just so much a part of their, like what the core of what they do. They just couldn't bring themselves to say, Hey, you know what? There was an assassination attempt on Donald Trump, right? They just could not bring themselves to say it. And that in itself was really eyeopening to see that here is something that played out in front of thousands of witnesses in front of thousands of recording devices,

and they still could not bring themselves to say it. You hate somebody that much and despise them that much that they could not bring themselves to say that, you know, this was a real event, it really happened. You know, some of them, it was really disgusting to hear all of that. You know, regardless of who it happened to, you know, some of them, it was really disgusting to hear all of that. You know, regardless of who it happened to, you know, you got to say, you know, it was a disgusting act. But what could have led this boy to go up on the roof with a rifle and try and shoot Donald Trump? It's really amazing to me.

I think it's all part of it. Big part of it, right, is all the hate and vitriol that's out there, you know, being pushed by both parties, being pushed by the mainstream media themselves. And it's really sad to see. one particular ideology most likely he really bought into it and and he he figured that this was a solution right um it cost him his life it's amazing it costs another person their lives too and it's really really horrible what happened um so let's see um yeah it's it that was a bad scene, and it was really surreal to watch that play out. So as they investigate this and they're trying to figure out the truth, well, you know, they called the director, and she didn't really have any good answers. It seemed like they weren't using their resources in the proper way, Uh, they, they were, they weren't using their resources in the proper way.

Um, and it just seemed like the regular procedure wasn't followed. And, and, you know, and, and, and I think she had to, she had to resign because just there was just not any more credibility there. Right. Um, and it was really surprising too, when she resigned, because a lot of times, uh, these people go up and they say okay this this is what happened blah blah and although you know something went wrong horribly but they don't resign she actually resigned so um i said and and that to me speaks volumes that it must it must be a whole lot worse than we ever really realized if she had to, if she actually stepped down.

And then, of course, you know, Biden had a really bad week and he had a really bad week. And then, of course, when was it? I think it was Saturday or Sunday. Saturday or Sunday, we got the news, right, that he was basically, you know, taking himself out of the race and he had tapped Harris, right, as, you know, he had tapped Harris as, you know, the VP, right, as the person to run. And, of course, once that occurred, everything went wobbly, right? Because I'm sure for the Republicans was like, okay, all right, we now we have a new person, they had a plan for, for Biden, that went out kind of went out the window to a certain extent, when you because now you have to readjust your, your, your plan. I would I even read an article that was written that said, hey, you know, if Biden

was to drop out, there are certain states where he's already gotten the nomination. They would not allow a new person on the ballot, right? That I'm going to have to do some more research. But I think that there might even be some legal issues in terms of uh miss harris running right now right um camilla harris running uh but you know it's going to be interesting you know how it all plays out we know that she's now the official uh democratic nominee and that will get even more official when they have their convention uh we'll see how that goes and um and you know it's going to be an interesting election from that standpoint um but uh immediately pretty much about a day it took about a day and then all the news started

to get weird where donald trump was ahead of course, he was leading Biden in all the states. All of a sudden, now we had to have all these polls saying Kamala Harris is ahead. All of a sudden, now the race card was in, you know, the whole idea of race was front and center again. And I think this is going to hurt not only her to a certain extent, it's going to hurt me as a black person. It's going to hurt a lot of black people out there. I don't want this to be about her race. I want it to be about her policies and her ideas. And I really want the Republicans to stay on that track to say, hey, this is about her policies. It's not about a race here.

It's not about her gender. It's not about her race here. It's not about her gender. It's not about her race. It's about her policies. Because that's where we're supposed to be. And the mainstream media need to highlight that and get off of this whole thing about race. Because I don't really see the Republicans out there saying much about this woman's race.

What I see is a lot of the mainstream media talking about how Republicans are talking about this woman's race. What I see is a lot of the mainstream media talking about how Republicans are talking about this woman's race. And I think that in itself is not going to be as effective as they think it should be. And I think it's a losing card for them to play. I don't think it's going to work. But anyway, let's take a look at a few articles here right and and then we'll we'll we'll sum up everything here and I'll give you my take on what this means for the prepping community at large and everything else but um let's take a look at a few things. Right. I'll read this one first from Zero Hedge. And he says, routers, shockpole finds Kamala leading Trump. There's just one catch.

It's amazing that you have Zero Hedge, which is not, I would call, you know, a powerhouse mainstream media news source. Not a lot of people. A lot of people read Zero Hedge, but not a lot of people. It's not a mainstream source of news. But it's amazing that they can be very, very accurate with a lot of things. With the Democrat corporate media machine in full swing behind Kamala Harris following President Joe Biden's shock announcement on Sunday that he was abandoning his 2024 presidential campaign, it was only a matter of time before a shock poll had her beating Trump in a hypothetical matchup. And they showed the whole thing from Drudge where they had the Drudge, you know, page, right? And the stuff that was in red on Drudge, like shock poll, Harris leads Trump. And another big one, Dem excitement soars and Kamala first rally, we're not going back, Drudge report, right? And that was all in red. going back, the Drudge Report, right? And that was all in red.

And it says, a new Routers Ipsos poll has found that Harris leads Trump 44 to 42% in the national poll with a 3% margin of error. Yet, there's a catch. As we noted in the 2016 and 2020 elections, pollsters had their thumb on the scale by over sampling democrats well they've done it again sampling 426 democrat voters versus 376 republicans and 341 independents and it says here the prediction market's predicate shows Harris trailing Trump 43 to 58. And they said here they ended up, we can't wait for PBS to come out with their latest.

So they actually looked at the sampling. And you would think that all the major news outlets before they would run. You see, 30 years ago, they would run you see 30 years ago they would check this 30 years ago they would check it they would go okay we we want to make sure that we're giving out you know good information so let's just check this source before we put it out now because the source agrees with their ideology with their Because they're not unbiased. And that's why people are turning away from them. That's why people aren't buying the magazines or the newspapers anymore.

That's why folks don't really believe them anymore. And here they are doing it again. And it's like, come on, folks. Just be honest. But they use these things. They're part they're pretty powerful because there's always a story when um you know um when you know when Democrats right when when they as we get closer to the election a lot of times the sampling it gets tighter and tighter right the poll data gets tighter and tighter but it's amazing that you know zero hedge could have gone in and looked

at, okay, how was the data taken when, you know, others don't, and then they run with it, and then they create this perception. And you realize that it's just really toxic, right? And it's, it's misinformation. It's incredible to me. So I found that that and i went oh here we go again and and that's why you know you you know i am pretty much going to tune out i'm going to do this podcast right and i'll give you my take on everything else but then i'm just pretty much going to tune out because you're never really going to get good information and it it's all it's going to do. You know, they're just trying to divide people to get you worked up, you know, to tear the nation apart, you know, all for their own political ideological goals. And that's why, you know, pretty much after this, as far as the election stuff is concerned, I'm not going to be wired into it. You know, I'm not going to be wired into it because I don't think it's good.

It's good to do that. So there is one poll, and I'm sure there's going to be a lot more polls that are going to come out. That's going to give, you know, the way they gather data is going to be faulty. No one is going to check that, especially the mainstream media, especially if it's favorable to Harris. And, you know, but it's really amazing. And then there's this other story here, you know, and this is all about misinformation, right? How the media gives out misinformation. And this is from Zero Hedge.

And he says, she wasn't actually actually borders our media gets whiplash rewriting history and i'll just read the article too right because this is you know misinformation in real time how the mainstream media gives their public misinformation and there's no one correcting or calling them on any of this but But let's read the article here. You knew it was coming. First, the routers, Ipsos, right, put their thumb on the scale in a new shock poll showing Vice President Kamala Harris leading Donald Trump in the 2024 race because they egregiously oversampled Democrats. Now, the media is performing triage for Harris, who nobody likes, especially her staff. The problem, Harris was very publicly put in charge of the border crisis,

which of course spiraled out of control or went according to plan. You know, if that's what the Democrats want, which is people coming in, then of course that's going according to plan, right? At the time, the media dubbed her the border czar. No corporate media is claiming that that never actually was true. And it's just the right wing talking point to smear their preferred candidate. And then they showed all these what you call it, all these titles from the mainstream media calling her a border czar. One was from the AP and they said, it said, Biden taps VP Harris to lead response to border challenges, right? That was that one. And the one from Time says Kamala Harris was

never Biden's border czar. Here's what she really did. So on one side, they have her, you know, President Biden saying, hey, you know, she's running this. And then, of course, you had Time, you know, a couple, what, maybe a couple hours ago saying Kamala Harris was never Biden's border czar. So they put the two of them opposite to each other. And it's kind of, you know, funny to see how, you know, they're trying to rewrite history. On one side, you have a mainstream media source, the AP, saying that she was. And now you're having Time say, no, she was never really a charge. She was never really the border czar.

And then they have a quote here from Biden. Here's Biden saying, When she speaks, she speaks for me, Biden said. Noting her past work as California's Attorney General makes her especially equipped to lead the administration's response. Biden, who has faced stiff criticism from Republicans over the increased flow of migrants, is hoping to show Americans he's taken the situation at the border seriously. He also wants to prevent the growing humanitarian political challenge from overshadowing his administration ambition. So when she speaks, she speaks for me, right?

And Axios now saying the Trump campaign and Republicans have tagged Harris repeatedly with the borders are a title which she never actually had, right? repeatedly with the borders are a title which he never actually had right now the exact outlet axios published this on april 14th 2021 now remember axios is saying the trump campaign and republicans have tagged harris repeatedly with the borders are a title which he never actually had that's that's a tweet from axios sometime this was done sometime today right but here's a story from axios themselves calling her the border czar now let's see axios here's the part of the article from the axios uh article right from their platform why it matters the number of unaccompanied minors crossing the border has reached crisis level.

Harris, appointed by Biden as border czar, said she would be looking at the root causes that drive migration. So Axios is pretty much, you know, you know, they're denying something that they themselves wrote. That's how sick the whole thing is when and that's how pretty much and that's why you can't believe these people it's a bold-faced lie this is kind of sociopathic right if it's almost like somebody going in you know like these people who commit serious crimes and they go into court and they they just sit there and lie they say okay i never did this when you have them on tape saying that they did it and here you have axios who read that ran an article calling her the border czar is saying that she was never really borders are and and she was never given

the title of borders are right and they and when they themselves were using that title of her right so that's how bad it is okay and it says here and of course they have other uh mainstream media uh sources right um um you know that that verify that she she did have title. And it's kind of like, okay, you know, what's the point, right? What they need to do instead of saying, well, they never, you know, because instead of, why not just say, okay, this is her policy then, instead of trying to rewrite the truth and saying that all of these things were untrue. Why not have her defend her policy on the border? If she can justify and show the American people that the way she handled the border crisis was a success,

then she'd have won the argument if she cannot show the american people that the way she handled the border crisis was a success then she's got to fall where the chips lay right she's she's if if her if the way she did the job right was not she didn't do a good job then then she's got to take responsibility for that. It's not the job of the mainstream media to run cover for her. They're supposed to be just reporting the facts. They're not supposed to be running cover for Ms. Harris, for the VP. They're not supposed to be running cover for her.

They're just supposed to be giving the American people the facts. Like, yeah, she was given and was called the border czar. Biden himself said that she spoke for him. You know, she was in charge of that part of the whole process. So it's just incredible to me, you know, what's going on in the mainstream media, right? I'm going to read an article here from the most important news. And it says three major bombshells that dropped that everybody should be talking about right now. And of course, this was written by Michael Snyder, right? And it says, the past couple of weeks have truly been historic.

Take a moment and just consider some of the major events that we have witnessed. Donald Trump got shot, Joe Biden dropped out of the race for president, and Kamala Harris quickly became the new presumptive nominee. It is hard to remember a time when so much has happened in such a short period of time. Now more bombshells have dropped, but because so much else is going on, they're not getting the attention that they deserve. The following are three major bombshells that everybody should be talking about right now. Number one, it appears that Joe Biden had some sort of a medical emergency while he was in Las Vegas last week. A Las Vegas hospital was on standby after being alerted about a possible medical issue

with President Joe Biden Wednesday afternoon while he was visiting southern Nevada. Law enforcement and medical teams gathered outside the University Medical Center trauma room on Wellness Way in case the President of the United states arrived after he canceled an appearance at the unidos u.s convention in las vegas due to testing positive for covid19 unidos u.s president and ceo janet marguia made the announcement to attendees who were waiting to hear the president speak right you don't rush someone to the hospital because of COVID. Something else was clearly going on. The hospital that was put on alert is the only level one trauma center in Nevada, right? Now, why didn't the big news networks make a big deal about this?

Apparently, hundreds of Las Vegas metropolitan officers heard the emergency orders that were issued. Several law enforcement officers on duty that they were informed over the radio that the president was dealing with an unspecified medical emergency far from a case of the sniffles this was sent out on encrypted police airwaves as if something akin to a five alarm fire had broken out right ultimately biden must have improved significantly because he did not end up going to the hospital instead he was taken to the he was taken to the airport where he departed on air force one wow you know um it was obvious that something happened in las

vegas and it's being hushed up could Could this medical emergency have played a role in Biden's decision to suddenly exit the race? So that's the first thing that he noted. Number two, the Oversight Project, a watchdog group that is part of the Heritage Foundation, has uncovered some absolutely stunning information. has uncovered some absolutely stunning information. Their analysis of phone data has revealed that someone was regularly at the home where Thomas Matthew Crooks lived, also visited a building in Washington, D.C. that is located very close to an FBI office. Who visited Thomas Crooks' home before he attempted to assassinate President Trump? Mobile ad data analysis reveals someone who regularly visited Crook's Pennsylvania home

also visited a building in D.C. near an FBI office. Many people do not realize that our phones are constantly gathering data on all of us. In this case, phone data could be the key in determining why Crooks did what he did. According to the Oversight Project, there were nine phones that were located at Crook's home and work within the last year right and it says here we found the assassin connections through our in-depth analysis of mobile and data mobile ad data to track movements of Crooks and his associates to do this we

track devices that regularly visited both crooks home and place of work and follow them the oversight project said wow it's amazing that they can do that one of these phones made a trip to Washington who owned that phone and who did that person meet with in Washington we definitely need answers to those questions. Right. The other one I'll save as a bit of trivia for the end of the podcast here. So those are two really big things that came up in the media. But let's see.

We're now into pretty much the first week of kamala harris running for president and i went on to memorandum which is a it's kind of like drudge where they it's a news gathering uh kind of a website right you know they they they scrape web scraping right they they scrape the news from different websites different um uh would you call it the different um uh you know headlines right from the different news channels let me just read um let me just read um some of the headlines here right you know i'm just going to read through them and you can see where I think if it was a fair and balanced news media we were dealing with, then it would a lot of these headlines would be, you know, Trump policies, Kamala Harris's policies. And, you know, it would be more about, OK, you know what these two people stand for, really. And you'll be you'll be seeing both names, you know, in the headlines. I remember, you know, 30 years ago. Right. That's what headlines, you know, used to look like. Let's read these headlines. I'm just going to read through a bunch of them. Right. And this, you know, just going through it says this one is from public notice the kamala harris hype is

real this one is from press watch don't treat don't treat trump like he has no agency one from raw story trump said to be freaking out as he's caught in a no-win situation with Harris. Empty wheel. Now that Joe Biden stepped down for the good of the country, Joe Khan must join him. Here's from CNN. CNN poll. Harris improves on Biden's performance against Trump in early look at new matchup. Raw story again.

Young voter registration spikes to record numbers in 48 hours after Harris takes the helm. The Hill. It's time to talk about Donald Trump's age. The Guardian. I was not voting before. Now I am. Gen Zers vote voters on what they think of Kamala Harris.

Axios. The Senate's last Harris holdout. Salon. Kamala Harris makes Donald Trump do the one thing he fears the most, get up and get out. The New York Times. Hillary Clinton. How Kamala Harris can win and make history. Axios again.

Harris border confusion haunts her new campaign. The Message Box. How Kamala Harris beats Trump. The New York Times. pain the message box how kamala harris beats trump the new york times trump demands equal airtime in light of biden's planned address new york times again how kamala harris changes race um daily beast yes the assassination attempt changed trump it made him even worse. Political. Trump is back to insulting his opponents despite reported transformation. Right. Let's see. CNN. Trump reemerges in North Carolina to a new opponent and a political landscape reshaped once again by the extraordinary. This is from the 19th. Right. A historical event. Eager supporters and makeshift merch crowd Harris's first campaign rally. Right. And these are from mainstream media sources. They're just scraping mainstream media sources here. Right.

Here's one from The Guardian. Again, Trump nephew reveals Uncle Donald's racist outbursts in new book from The Daily Beast. Trump repeatedly used N-word, says his own says his own nephew. Here's one from Slate. You have no idea what Joe Biden did for employment. Right. Here's one from New York Times. Trump's favorite lies, puffery and flights of fancy up against the data this is the mainstream media this is all anti-trump this i i just went through the day you know from just scraping the headlines here how is this fair and honest news these are actually the you know the only thing that you can say is these all all these headlines, all these stories are written by people who have a stake in the game. They've got to be democratic operatives, right? Because someone who's really writing about the election would be writing about, here's Kamala Harris's, you know, here are her policies and and hear Donald Trump policies. You are now listening to the Patriot Power Hour.

This live episode features the situational awareness you need to practice self-reliance and independence. Introducing your hosts, Ben, the Breaker of Banksters, and Future Dan, the editor of banksters and future dan the editor of futuredanger.com november 6 2024 patriot power hour the day after the election and well simply put trump crushed it future dan this has got to be a top 10 percentile best outcome i could have ever seen after july 13th like if you asked me then the ideal outcome up till this point this would have been it so you know great to see yeah don't call it a comeback he's been here for years and barring some of the contingencies that you and i

talked about on our election special just a few days ago he's coming in as the 47th president of the united states after serving as the 45th of the gap So quite extraordinary times we're living in. And I would suggest we kick this off with some analysis on how the vote was different this year, or in fact, the same again from previous years. previous years. Well, we can look at the overall vote for 2016, 2020, and 2024. The overall turnout, a number of votes from Democrats. Let's just say it returned to the mean this time around, and it just makes 2020 really stick out as a sore thumb.

So that's something big in of itself right there. I'd go back to 2012 too. So Obama's first win was low to middle, 60 million. Did it a little bit better, 64, 66 in 2012. And then Hillary was right about at the same number. And Kamala might have done a little bit better than that.

You know, the population is growing too. So 66 million, I believe, is her popular count right now. Although New York and California, they're trying as hard as they can to continue counting. You know, Trump holds a 4.8 million nationwide popular vote win.

Wow. Right now. Yeah. And then there's Joe Biden's 81 million votes from somewhere. I don't know where in reality there was 20, 16 million voters who showed up that year, but never were there for Obama, Hillary or this year, Harris. Clear evidence that fraud must be investigated. How the mail-in ballots were broken.

Trump, if he's promised something, like he said, this can never happen again, can't ever happen in our elections again. My hope is that is a top priority in this winter to go and get the documentation, take it to the states that did that cheating, take it to the counties, peel back the counties,

peel back the network, because we are only one bio attack away from suffering an election like that again if we don't fix it. That's why I'm so surprised, honestly, that this happened. I wasn't surprised that they tried to kill him in July, and I wasn't surprised they tried at least another time. But if, as we've said here on Patriot Power Hour a few times, we've insinuated that COVID-19, a main reason, if not the main reason for its release, was to dethrone Trump, get him off uh get him out of there in 2020 so if they did that a worldwide pandemic that just cost trillions of dollars and killed lots of people maybe less than they claim but still a lot you know if they did that at least in part, to dethrone Trump, I figured they would pull out the stops even bigger and not let him back where he could expose all that happened in 2020, not to mention all types of other shenanigans going on with the DOJ nowadays.

So we're not totally over the hill yet. So I'm very happy. I woke up this morning and I was was happy but it ain't over yet you hate what word shenanigans to me shenanigans is something like five year olds doing in the

corner in kindergarten I consider crimes against our constitutional order when you cheat on that level, right? Ordinated, widespread, Dinesh Sousa, 2,000 mules, ballot stuff and drop points, ballot custody, packing it with suitcases. None of that was possible, apparently, last night. And on Saturday, I spoke about the question, has Trump thoroughly gained control of the Republican establishment?

Is Trump the Republican establishment? I'm talking about the networks, the lobbyists and lawyers and activists who could be bothered to go to the polls and keep an eye on what the hell was happening. And I think that's how Harris comes in at 16 million less votes than Biden. I saw unsubstantiated claims four years ago of the sheer amount of ballots by mail that Biden received a vote, Biden-Harris ticket got a vote, but no other candidates were marked off on those ballots. And I was thinking about that again last night, and I'm kind of wondering if that was a strategy, if that was on purpose, because if no other candidates were on the ballot in 2020 in a particular state, no House or Senate or – not on it, but not marked off on a ballot, then those candidates wouldn't have standing to challenge the ballots.

then those candidates wouldn't have standing to challenge the ballots. And I think that's how they did it. They stuffed the ballot boxes with mail-in votes and tagged them, voted just for Biden-Harris, so they could not be challenged. And they're probably all destroyed now. But there are witnesses to this. There are people that can be turned. It's just like working away through a crime network you start at the bottom and you get them flipping to the top the next DOJ under Trump has every

opportunity to do this something has to be explained why there's 16 million less Democrat voters this year better I mean this has got to be priority number one or 1A. I think Trump's very motivated to do this, so that's good. I'm going to be holding him to account on a lot of other things he's said over the last several months, so I'm probably going to be his biggest critic here on PBN. But I'm damn glad he got in. And if only for self-preservation of the MAGA movement

and his legacy, he better get down to business and at least put a couple people in jail. I mean, damn, there really probably should be hundreds, but at least a couple of the leaders of the leaders who were caught red-handed. Better happen. If it doesn't, it would be shameful. better happen if it doesn't it'd be shameful whoever's the next attorney general is is gonna make all the difference right and his his first attorney general out of you know a senator out of alabama who immediately recused himself of

everything to do with the russian hoax leaving Trump powerless to stop it in his own department. I think if that lesson was learned, Trump's going to have two years before the next midterm to do some real rollback of what we've endured for four years. He's definitely a lot more hardcore, which is what I like to see. Definitely, my opinion's grown quite a lot over the last, what? When did he first come?

I mean, of course, everyone loved Trump on The Apprentice, but I mean more like in 2016, I didn't really take him too seriously, and then obviously in one, I'm like, all right, let's see what he actually does. He did all right. He's see what he actually does. He did all right. Obviously he had a lot of obstructionists in his first administration, so he better have learned a lesson to have the right people in there.

And I feel like he is starting to surround himself with a lot of people, like whether it's RFK, Tulsi Gabbard, Ron and Rand Paul, definitely allies now at this point. Elon Musk, lots of others. Hopefully he's rooted out turncoats or people that would be obstructionist, right? That's the goal. So easy for people in the White House to leak. He had a hard time finding anybody that wouldn't be absolutely pitted against each other.

But if you ever watch The Apprentice Show, I got to be honest, I didn't really like it because it was just a group of celebrities, you know, given a task in business supposedly, and then they're all just at each other and backbiting each other. And he was, you know, part of that, like fostering it and getting it going on. And I watched that first White House where it looked like that apprentice show. He'd always be bringing in new talent, listen to new people, giving new people a shot. But he had no fucking control on how they, you know, went, you you know disloyally against each other left and right and left and right if if he doesn't if he hasn't learned that lesson maybe he never will

and it'll it'll hamper this his effectiveness you know you know but he's learned a lot right getting shot at probably you know helped with the focus on that point. Yeah, there were many steps between getting shot at and let's just say the apprentice years, but getting shot at was probably as big a leap as all the other steps combined before over the last decade or whatnot. So you can see that in his demeanor and what he was saying, more hardcore, but more focused, I think, not just saying build the wall. We're going to make Mexico pay for it.

He had a couple throwaway lines like that, but that's the charm of Trump. But he actually, I hope, has some solid plans and solid people to put in place. So come January, you know, January 20th, January 21st, better get to work. Says he will. Um, we'll, we'll be here at Patriot power hour reporting each and every week. I'll tell you that. Yeah. And globalist new world order is not done, right? They're defeated last night, but they're not done.

is not done, right? They're defeated last night, but they're not done. So there's going to be a lot of dangers from many angles abroad and festering up at home, right? I would expect to see Antifa riding over something next summer. I'm making that call.

There's going to be violence in the streets this year after he takes power. So tonight, we're not even going to do a news blitz, are we? We're just going to go through this. I can give the listeners just a basic rundown. There's some natural headline, natural column headlines, typical stuff we talk about and relatively low level, and it's abroad, right? But there are fatal natural disasters ongoing.

There always are. But otherwise, in the Middle East, it's silence. In Ukraine, it's silence. It's just the entire world just basically stopped to watch this election. At least it seems that way. just basically stop to watch this election. At least it seems that way. It could also be a function of all the reporting resources in the world are absolutely directed and focused to elections.

So there's probably a lot of stuff going on that the headlines will be coming back at us in a week or so. They're just they're not here tonight. They're not here tonight. And then there was also a decent set of indicators of potential stolen election. And it's clear now that it was not widespread. And the glitches in machines and the signature validation software, those were indicators of a potential stolen election I have not heard anyone Assert that yesterday was stolen By either party in any credible way

No No one was even Mentioning that as a possibility On the MSNBC's of the world So I stayed up Until 3 in the morning or a little later I know you did as well i but i will say today i did not spend hardly any time reading news or on twitter and all that i did

a lot yesterday trust me but uh you know long story short no one that i saw was even pushing a narrative that the Republicans stole this. One of the telling, you know, we're not going to go down every single clip or talk about all the memes and meltdowns. But something that was telling, and you might have seen the clip. I saw it live last night when they were asking, you know, they were on the big board. last night when they were asking, you know, they were on the big board. Someone asked, hey, did Harris take any county over and above Biden in 2020? Did she outperform Biden anywhere?

I think it was by 3% anywhere perhaps. Zero counties. Yeah, that was CNN. That was John King on the magic board. And I'm going to, that was CNN. That was John King on the magic board. And I'm going to give that guy credit. He worked that board and got that. Whether or not you believe that that is accurate, but this year everybody's believing that the vote totals are accurate, relative, within a reasonable margin of error, one or less percent, right?

John King did a great great job and he revealed that he's the poor guy on cnn who had to basically break the news slowly they did it as slowly as they could but the scene that you're talking about is jack tapper standing next to john king asking and it wasn't counties that harris flipped it was just counties that Harris flipped. It was just counties that Harris did up to 3% better than Biden. Zero, none. Didn't happen anywhere in the country. Not a single voting district, county, or township in the east did she improve by greater than 3%. So I did watch more CNN and MSNBC this afternoon before the show.

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then we could do that anywhere and try to educate whole communities instead of just autistic weirdos on the internet. So that's all the administrative work. I see two minutes and 30 seconds, which is probably a world record for doing admin work. I just need to take a breath and turn the show over to my two co-hosts, Nick and Andrew, and our guest, Trek, who it's been a couple of months since we talked to you last.

And you haven't let grass grow on your feet. You've been busy. I was terrified. It's been so long when I saw that we're going live. I got real nervous. So we'll see if we'll calm down. We'll be all right. But yeah, no, it's been a busy couple of weeks since we last talked for sure. Nice. So what have you been up to? Well, a big thing right now is closing out the handover of MDFI to my team Thundercat,

which has been a long time coming after 15 years. And so we made the public announcement, and we're working on all the behind the scenes to get that transition taken care of. And then I'm unemployed for a very short amount of time. And then on January 1, I start the new gig. And on top of that, the revolver optics conversion from Shield Arms is finally coming to market. I'm very excited. So I got a lot of stuff happening right in the next 30 days or so,

which is pretty awesome. Very cool, man. Very cool. Now, were those, your Thundercat team, were those the guys that were teaching with you when I took your Foundation Shotgun class? Well, so that was probably, was that Blue Water? What was the class at?

That was Mount Pleasant. Mount Pleasant. was that blue water class that was not pleasant so that was Mount Pleasant um what was that if that was the 6 October yeah yeah all the guys kind of showed up that was my last class we didn't announce it oh okay my last live fire class I made that one yeah it was it was pretty cool the entire time I'm just like nobody shoot each other, nobody shoot each other. I mean 15 years when you've had a relatively stellar safety

record aside from one guy that shot himself in 2016 in Waxhatchee, Texas and another guy that shot himself not in my class in an adjoining bay in 15 years and 20,000 plus students. Yeah, we couldn't have asked for a better group. That entire group on 6 October was awesome.

And of course, we were dealing with, you know, 70 and 72 caliber scattergats, which I was just happy the class went as good as it could have. So what you're saying is you desperately didn't want to have to reset the so many days since last action and back to zero on your last day. Well, I just posted a picture of me shooting from many years ago, and one of my cadre was like, oh, look, you didn't used to have white hair. And it's like, I've seen some things, man. I've seen some things.

So, yeah. So I'm ready to leave the live fire days behind me and focus on other things. But it was a great run. It was an absolutely awesome run. So I'm very excited about handing the reins over to them watching them take the next 15 years and then see who carries the MDFI torch then and I think that's the biggest takeaway of kind of what my brain has been going through is we've done a really good job of it was that it was the brand not the person behind the brand. And so when the announcement was made, I had my letter of stepping down. Tim Nelson had the letter of the guys taking the reins

and the feedback. I mean, my phone was blown off. Look, lots of people saying, thank you for the 15 years. I learned a lot, became a better person, a more responsible citizen. At the same time, the kudos to the guys that are taking the torch was epic. And so that's really all I wanted from this was their hard work be recognized. And I think that everybody has done that and they're going to just seamlessly jump into my shoes and then run the treads off them, which I'm really looking forward to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if the quality of their instruction and the classes they run is anywhere even close to yours, they blow they blow out of the water any other class I've taken. Well, I appreciate that. And for the longest time, my concern, this is well before they came on board, it was one day and I've said it numerous times.

It's not a secret. Pat Rogers, God rest the man. But I always told everybody that I met, I did not want to do what Pat did. And it's not a dig on Pat in any way, but he was 70 and full kit down in Alliance, Ohio. He was doing what he loved, but that is not what I wanted. I wanted to build up a cadre of guys that could take it over. And if I stayed with MDFI, I could become more of a strategic level, you know, doing curriculum development, whatever it might be. For me, and that's the most important thing, and I kind of made it my letter of stepping down, no one should have any doubt that if I'm handing the reins to anybody else, that they will surpass my expectations about what MDFI needs to be.

And they've proven it to me. Now they get to start in the hours that they're at. And I'm going to stop with my 16,000 plus hours of instruction under my belt. And they're going to surpass me one day. And I look forward to seeing the lessons that they learn and the stuff that they pass on to their next crew, which is going to be awesome. Well, and if I may say, I think the simple fact that you are able and willing to like, I don't want to use the word step down or step aside, but really like pass that responsibility off to your cadre. I mean, it says a lot for them. It says a lot for yourself because a lot of people and it's not always like ego or anything.

It's not always trust in their their subordinates or their teammates. A lot of times people just have trouble letting go like once you've gotten that like you can't do what you've done for as long as you have without getting emotionally invested in some degree it's not possible i don't think so to get that emotionally invested in it and then recognize that like for the good of you for the good of the brand for the good of the instructors and for the good of the students, I have to pass this torch. And to be able to let go of that, I think that displays a lot of maturity, man. Well, it was actually very easy for me. I have been part of the firearms training industry for 15 years now, and I have always

kept one foot just across the line to stay in. But I've done everything I can to keep the rest of me out of it because it's kind of like Camelot. It's a very silly place. Nine versus 45 arguments. You know, everybody thinks that the way that they reload a gun is better than everybody else's. And so that's easy because I'm getting ready to go to a job where I get to be a spook again. And I don't have to have a public, you know, might come on here and talk about personal defense, use of force, which I always love.

And I will still be carrying that torch for MDFI teaching the beyond the door when a gun's not an option and human element classes, which are very use of force, which is what I absolutely love and love building people up to be thinkers and not just shooters. But it was very easy because I'm I don't need I'm very proud of what MDFI is I'm proud of what I did but I'm very proud of what they have earned and it's it's been very obvious for the past couple years I would say even since they joined the team they're far better shooters than me I'm a far better than instructor than they are and the reason being is because I've got more time like I said 16,000 plus hours so what it's the past couple of years is I'm teaching them how to be a better instructor. They've been teaching me how to be a better shooter. And it's just been a great back and forth.

And what I love, you know, I've talked to some of the guys. They're like, man, Trek, you know, overruled us on this one thing. And all of a sudden we were sitting around watching the class go. And they're like, son of a bitch, Trek was right. The flow worked a lot better. It's like, guys, I've made the mistakes. You just don't see. And hopefully I'm trying to prevent you from stepping in those pitfalls that I've done.

It was even funny. I think you may have noticed the last rep of the qualifier with Relay to it Foundation Shotgun. wire with relay to it foundation shotgun i realized that if i flip-flop part three and pipe part four the students will run dry at the very end of it which then saves a step in time management and brandon looks over at me after i do this ad lib real quick and goes you wait to 15 years to do that one like your last curriculum and it's like here you go it's yours now take it or leave it so i love it i like i'm very excited about it. The guys got me this display box. It's got all the alumni cards. We started in 2015. I've got Tom McNaughton's 1911 in there. And then the signed alumni cards where I actually got to take MDFI classes because I had instructors that could run the class.

And I still remember vividly the first day I got to sleep in when an MBFI class was happening. And I didn't wake up in a panic because I knew the guys were doing everything exactly as I would expect. And they weren't doing it because I expected. They're doing it because that's the way they want to run their training. So I'm very excited for the future yeah i mean i mean and uh coming from somebody who i have taken i've taken classes uh under you and now tim brandon derrick grant uh you know rome and uh and so i it's it's interesting because yeah like it's funny because you talk about how you're a better instructor they're better shooters it's interesting like taking a class from you because I don't remember what classes they were, but it was one I took with you.

It was like a week or two later. I took one. It was under Tim. And the things that he's adopted like from you. But it's really funny because he still has his own style of teaching, which is really cool to see. And Tim's a great teacher. teacher all of them all of them are great instructors um but the the company is in uh i think it's in great hands to uh with derrick brandon and tim uh those guys are a solid group of guys they know what they're doing they know they know the firearm industry and they know you know if they need to do something different or kind of change course i i think they'll they'll see that writing on the wall and they'll be able to adjust and adapt, um, which is, I think is needed, uh,

in today's society and the gun industry, it changes so much. Uh, I mean, Trek, you and I were just talking about that with, uh, with red dots and the pistols out there nowadays. It's like with some of these companies that are coming or with, with all the companies that are out there right now, cause I mean, you throw a stone and you can hit a ton of companies that do milling for slide milling. And it's like, well, how are they going to adapt? Because now the industry is caught on. So you're seeing I mean, it's unless it's I mean, usually 1911s, but they're even starting to get more popular as far as becoming optic ready. But you have the Smith and Wesson, you have Ruger, you have optic ready but uh you have the smith and weston you

have ruger you have all these companies you have sig they're they're coming optics ready whether yeah some of them have a crappy ass footprint that apparently now you got to buy an adapter plate and stuff like that which is shit but uh but that's besides the point i mean the thing is those they are becoming optics ready so now i don't have to send my 700 or 600 or 500, whatever you spend on a pistol, I don't have to send it off and get milled, spend another couple hundred dollars to $300 or more on getting something milled. It's like, all right, that saves me money. I'm going to do it now.

Okay. It's like, how are they going to adapt? And I think MDFI, as the firearms industry goes through changes and everything i really feel like the the new guys are definitely going to be able to adjust on the fly as needed um 100 bill blowers a guy that i respect tap rack tactical uh very intense awesome dude. If you get a chance, I think we've got him. I'm switching hats.

As an owner of Black Creek Range in Mount Pleasant, we actually have him coming with Mark Smith next fall for a three-day night vision package that we had down in the lake. Another one? What's that? Oh, yeah. Yep. So we took a year off.

That's a tough class to fill just because it's very niche. I mean, you got to have guys that have night vision and this and that. Well, they're coming back. But Bill Blowers has made public that, you know, when he steps down full time, and I can't remember if Bill still does anything law enforcement, but he basically said at a certain point in time, he's going to acknowledge that he has an expiration date, not as a guy that's a good instructor, but tactics are going to change. And so the shield work that he does, the law enforcement training that he does, heck, laser blasters come out tomorrow. And all of us dudes have been shooting projectiles that have been dealing with stoppage clearance, things like that. There's going to be some new Thundercats that know a lot more about these laser blasters.

And so, you know, I was in the military, iron sights, my God, I didn't get a red dot on my M4 until my last couple of years actually carrying one. And then I went in to become an instructor. And so I missed out time with that. I was a diehard iron sight shooter. I enjoyed shooting iron sights, even in a red dot world, because I wanted to show people you don't need them. You can certainly be very proficient. In fact, I think they require a lot more proficiency. The new guys, especially, they came into the fold with red dots.

I am, of course, now a diehard red dot guy. I think I'm very proficient with it. But the new guys, of course, these Mike Thundercats, far more proficient. They created the class, the dot life, endorsed by by modern samurai project. They are mentees of Scott. I mean, I have to acknowledge the fact that, um, there is an expiration date. I can keep this going. And there are guys out there that I know that are, they're going to keep doing it. Uh, the only downside, and I say this with all respect to them is start grooming your replacements. And, and I'll say this with absolute respect with EAG tactical which was Pat Rogers EAG to the best of my

knowledge is still out there you don't hear about it anymore and the reason being EAG was Pat and no disrespect to whoever took over the company and I Frank I don't know who that was so there are great programs out there hopefully those guys are starting to think about, Hey, maybe I should hand it over. Maybe they have plans to once it's over and the brand will disappear. And there's every day there's new training companies, good and bad. We just saw the video that dipshit shooting behind the woman on the firing line that was going viral. That's what had been sent to me about 50 times and made my blood pressure go up, but good or bad, there's new companies coming on board.

Some will have good stuff. Some will have bad stuff. But yeah, we all have an expiration date. And I think this transition is great for the brand MDFI. And I'm looking forward to knocking the rust off and going back to how I left the military and what I started doing, which is professional investigation, which I which I really enjoyed and frankly I thought I was very good at and so I'm looking forward to stepping into a new position standing up an investigation division and getting back into protective work and so that'll

that'll be nice and I'm gonna get to learn from some guys that are less experienced than me but especially in the age of chat GPT my god the amount of work of work that I'm going to be able to do, I've already been toying around with it. That used to take me forever compiling information. I'm really looking forward to seeing what I can do with the new technology and then bringing the smarts that I had from how we used to do it analog to the new digital age. And I'm going to be leaning on a lot of people when I first start off until I get my feet underneath me. But that's just the name of the name of the game uh guys with no gray in their beard take over for guys with gray in their beard and hopefully we built them up and it'll be guys that'll be long-standing men with gray beards eventually so there you go um yeah that's go ahead

andrew that's that's a problem that we we see see in, I think every industry, you know, you guys know, I'm in manufacturing. Um, are the, the founder of our company passed away a few years ago. Fortunately, he took the time like track to train up his replacement beforehand and started to retire in stages and pass that, that on, you know, it's, it's really a shame. You do see that in a lot of places, a lot of small manufacturing companies, one-man, two-man shops where you've got the guy with all the knowledge and you've got his handy guy, his helper guy that's doing largely labor. If you don't take the time to train those people up, then once you're done or God forbid, get hit by a bus, everything stops. That guy's job stops. Your customers have got to look for a new shop. It's,

it's really, uh, it's something that I think more people need to be comfortable with and accept that they need to train their replacements in everything. It was a, it was a something that to me, and it, it, I was I was Air Force, some of my guys are Army, Marines. That's something that's really hammered in the military is that you're always training your subordinates to take over your job. In the civilian sector, that's difficult because what happens a lot of times is the subordinate is more competent than the supervisor and takes the job. And so a lot of supervisors that don't put in their own time, their apparatus is about training the replacements because they don't

want to be replaced. In the military, you only get rank through testing and time. So it's kind of a, you know, if I fall in combat, you got to be able to pick up what I'm doing and lead people. So that was, that's a very easy thing. But I'll take a lesson from, I love movies and whatnot for making things relevant. I've been watching a show on Apple called silo, very interesting, uh, kind of get hooked on it, but every person in this limited space has a shadow and they're always training their shadow because there's a limited amount of people and there's very important jobs. And so they always have somebody that is right there as a shadow. And I think that's, it's just a good thing in in life, in any profession to have that. And if we go even more socioeconomic, the stuff that's happening

with, we're talking about there's not enough people in the world, the demographics are shifting, and we've got very skilled laborers that are getting ready to retire if they're not already. And there's a lot of people that they don't have the skills. I mean, my God, these kids don't know how to change a tire on their car. So, yeah, it's the same reason why right now, if you are a tradesman, you can set the price and you can set the time because there is competition, but there's not enough competition for the amount of demand. And so that's what we're seeing right now is skilled laborers. There's not enough of them. So, yeah, it's just a good life lesson to keep training people. The average age for a person in my career is 59 and climbing.

Yeah. Which tells you that I'm going to be in a good place in about five years. So 15 years of training, what are two things that you've taken away? Oh, man, that's putting me on the spot. Um, a lot of people from all different walks of life want nothing more than life living in the pursuit of happiness. And very few of them will train to protect it. Uh, that's a big one. And i've seen i mean we've had

we train on average a thousand students a year record year pre-covid was 1500 students and that's that's 80 plus classes i mean and even with the two teams we've been i'm the i was the full-time guy uh tim and brandon those guys are full-time they have full-time guy. Tim and Brandon, those guys are full-time. They have full-time gigs. They were working themselves. And we had to be very careful. We could fill more classes, but we have to balance the – we can't burn people out. It got to 15 years. There was times that we had demand, and I would say to my beautiful better half, I got to take a break.

I got to not be on the firing line. It's ridiculously hot. It's ridiculously humid. And I'm just – I need a little bit of downtime. And we were running about 70, 80 classes. But that's the people that came to us. You would hear the stories of all the bad things that happened to people. And a lot of times people were there because they either heard the story and they didn't

want to be a victim or something bad happened to them. And then they said, never again. I'm not going to just get lucky. So what I hope from MDFI and any other company out there that's doing good things is keep training because there's lots of people that need it. We need to get a lot more people involved. Current events have definitely made it blatantly clear that I'm from the government and I'm here to help. Those are scary words. I've always joked that when you have a CPL, the government says you're good. That should be the telltale sign that you're not trained enough because the government

at the second time is there to protect against, says that you're good to go. And then people go, I got my CPL, I'm good. And the government's like, yeah, Boy, that is a tough one. I would say, and this is a tough thing to say, is every, and I'm going to preface this because you know how things get taken out of context and clips. If I am killed tomorrow with a firearm, if I'm killed tomorrow by a guy that has a CPL, a class three license, and he decides to murder me, nobody better try to take the guns from any of my neighbors because of what happened to me. I will die on a hill of brass casings to protect any American's right to keep and bear arms as protected under the Second Amendment. So there's my preface. A lot of Americans, every American, every human, but I'm just going to stick to America because I'm an American.

Every American has the right to own as many guns they want of any kind that they want of any caliber they want. A lot of Americans shouldn't. You're listening to PBN. Your path back to stability here. Can you comment on the drones that are flying around? It seems like there are people. The government knows what is happening. Look, our military knows where they took off from.

If it's a garage, they can go right into that garage. They know where it came from and where it went. And for some reason, they don't want to comment. And I think they'd be better off saying what it is our military knows and our president knows. And for some reason, they want to keep people in suspense. I can't imagine it's the enemy, because if it was the enemy, they'd blast it out. Even if they were late, they'd blast it. Something strange is going on. For some reason, they don't want to tell the people. And they should because the people are really, I mean, they happen to be over Bedminster. They're very close to Bedminster.

I think maybe I won't spend the weekend in Bedminster. I've decided to cancel my trip have you received an intelligence david jones the nbc guy what is going on man i'm just laughing at trump there that was pretty awesome yeah trump it's the truth has a certain ring to it doesn't it when it comes from somebody who you actually believe somebody behind a microphone you believe is rare anymore. And so I thought we'd. Yeah, I thought we'd probe the Internet and see who's got a theory on the drones and talk about our own sort of feelings on this thing as it's evolving. As I told you at the beginning of the show, like as soon as they said they're panning for radiation and stuff like that i started thinking dave jones the nbc guy i wondered what you were thinking and uh and then

trump popped out and said oh yeah we know what they are we know what they are they know what they are they're just not telling us which makes me think and i'll just say it off the top what i've thought from the beginning is uh it's us looking for something and it's gotta be something pretty big. Cause they don't want to tell us. Yeah. So, you know, where's your head at with it? Oh yeah. They, they're definitely looking for something and to just let them into our airspace, you know, unimposed, unencumbered. I mean, mean that's unbelievable so too many uns in that one sentence well yeah it's the unmit it's the unministration is what's in there right now so you never know yeah and it seems to be spreading yeah like it like it's if it were some kind of nuclear situation, it seems like it came in Jersey.

You know what I mean? And then, oh, we can't find it. Let's expand out into other parts of Jersey. Let's expand into Philadelphia and out of Maryland. What really bothers me is that now they're showing up on the West Coast because that makes me think maybe there's more than one of whatever it is they're looking for. because that makes me think maybe there's more than one of whatever it is they're looking for. You know what I mean? Because they went from East Coast popping into West Coast. And I even heard as much as Ohio. Oh, we might have lost Dave.

I think we might have lost Dave. Dave looks great tonight. Dave's got the freaking I survived it look on. Pardon me, I'm drinking a Waterloo. And I'm finding out that it is not the perfect podcasting drink. The late night. See, when I'm doing a podcast, I want to drink like... I want to drink something. I want to have...

Sometimes it's a coffee, sometimes, whatever, you know. Dave Jones will be back. Don't worry. In the meantime, you know, it's the Prepper Broadcasting Network, for those of you who don't know. I'm James Walton, the intrepid commander here at PBN. We are the podcast network you should be listening to. We are the news source you should be paying attention to. And more important than all of that stuff is we're doing the stuff that you should be doing.

Really. You know what I mean? I heard a really interesting quote the other day, and it made me kind of nervous and the quote was the public is not interested in being informed they're interested in feeling informed and that kind of scares me because i started to apply it there he is yeah i got kicked all the way off. I saw. You gave us a steely-eyed look and then just gave it to us for about a minute straight. Oh, wow. I was telling the audience, I heard a guy, I can't remember, Sagar, I think his name is, from Diamond and Silk?

No. Yeah. Is that right? Or was that the Fat Ladies show? That was the Fat Ladies show. Okay, no, not that one. This guy is Sagar from another show. Whatever.

He was on an interview and he was talking about news and media and he was talking about how the public doesn't want to be informed. They want to feel informed. Right. And the reason that hit me so hard is because i started thinking about what we do here at pbn and i started wondering if the public wants to feel informed and not be informed does the public want to feel prepared but not be prepared you know i don't know yeah because i know there's a certain amount of people in our audience large portion of our audience that wants to be prepared. And a lot of them are. Yeah. But I don't know about the full scope.

Yeah. I think for a majority of our audience, you know, they won't get a life strong say, OK, I'm ready. Oh, yeah, definitely not. You know, so I should explain to the listeners Why I look like this Yeah Okay so usually I Ask James can you hear The heater in the background Because I usually have a heater

Running over here well right Now I have no heat And we actually Had snow we had a two hour delay on School Today Well, right now I have no heat and we actually had snow. We had a two hour delay on school today. On Friday night at 4 a.m., which is Saturday morning at 4 a.m., my golden retriever decided to start having puppies at 4 a.m. And she's here in the office. My did the same thing you know yikes not not saturday but when she had her first son it was like 4 30 a.m and not puppies right yeah

kind of i mean he does eat dog treats he likes to eat dog treats puppy cheaper so um it didn't stop until she reached the number 15 which is only two away from the record so for golden retrievers if you google this you'll see that for a record of golden retrievers is 17. And she, she almost made the record. Yeah. And it was exhausting. And of course I'm a night shift. So David's had that night shift. Yeah.

You know, I don't have to explain the logistics here because you have 15 puppies and you don't have enough, you know, machinery. Right. You got to actually be there and rotate them and make sure everyone gets fed. And every two hours, now we're up to three hours. So we're doing a little better.

I can almost get six hours sleep a night. I'm telling you, Dave jones these puppy things i had no idea that dogs having puppies was like so much like kids having i mean humans having babies yeah you know yeah she went into labor at 4 a.m and didn't get done until 7 that night oh that poor girl yeah and i i go and text the vet because we have a vet that does house calls, which is really great. And I said, 13. And then I know about an hour later. Nope, I was wrong.

14. And about an hour after that, I said, final count, 15. Wow. Yeah. And he said, wow, make sure she eats enough food. And I said, yeah. That's insane. Those long labors are unbelievable.

I feel so bad for the ladies. Yeah. And she was up eating and all of a sudden. My wife was like a drive-thru I always call her the drive-thru Because both kids were out in like an hour Oh Yeah, she just

No time for this shit Let's just get in and get out Chin sent us a video You want to watch it? Sure It's called It's by a guy named Chase Hughes on YouTube. I don't know if you've never heard of him.

I haven't. And we can't watch the whole thing because it's 22 minutes. But it says, planned event. The truth about New Jersey's drone UFOs. Dang. He did really well with this video. This thing got a million, almost 2 million views in one day. 116K likes.

So it should be a pretty good one. We'll get his take on it. Okay. Let's share the screen. I'm pretty sure we can remark over it and everything. Yeah. Yeah, we can talk about it. Let's bring him up.

We'll see what we can see. Okay. That looks familiar. Yeah, okay yeah you know i don't know possibly that's a familiar looking face well let's hear what chase hughes has to say i don't know who he is i don't know his background all i could tell you is uh chin the comms master from pbn brought the video to our attention. Are we in the middle of a psychological operation right now? There are thousands of drone sightings. I've never seen so many UFOs in my life.

And more weird stuff every single day. Were they human or non-human? Non-human. We are not alone. You deserve to know how to tell what the hell is going on. And I just did a very confidential talk to my inner circle last night. But I think that you need to see this. People within the U.S. government believe it's true.

The world deserves the truth. Growing number of drone sightings. I'm going to move forward a little bit. Higher intelligence. Yeah. If you don't know, I'm the guy that trains psyops. truth growing number of drones i'm going to move forward a little bit higher intelligence yeah if you don't know i'm the guy that trains psyops i'm the person that teaches this kind of stuff to companies and stuff so the government's kind of gone from decades of denial to throwing around terms like uh uaps unidentified aerial phenomena in official hearings add to that the sudden rise like UAPs, Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, Inofficial Hearings.

Add to that the sudden rise in reports of drones all over the place, these weird sightings and emergency declarations that are going on, I think in New Jersey right now. It feels like we're being prepped for something. But what are we being prepared for? So let's dig in. So why would this be happening right now?

So we're gonna go both sides. It's aliens, It's not aliens. Let's do both sides here. Most governments don't just usually open up about things like this without a reason. With all governments, when they start talking a narrative, it's most often to serve a bigger agenda if this is deliberate. So here are three possible reasons I can think of why this might be happening. Number one, a distraction tactic. When huge issues are brewing, like economic instability, political unrest, global crises, somebody's done something bad and it's about to get in the news. Governments usually and very often create some kind of distraction. So remember when the Pentagon released UFO footage in 2020, that conveniently happened during a global pandemic, this chaotic thing that was going on around the entire world that we all suffered through.

Number two, using fear as a tool. So fear unites people. So if there is a threat big enough, and I want you to remember if you're just listening to me right now, I'm sitting on your kitchen counter or something like that, and you're making dinner, I said the word threat with huge quotes around it. If there's a threat big enough, like UFOs, people are more likely to trust their leaders, give up freedoms, and rally behind whatever solution that they're offered. It's the same playbook used during the Cold War. This was called the Red News. Well, did you hear Mayorkas?

He wants more power. Or post 9-11 yeah that's the answer he said he wants congress to approve him more power more more latitude and i'm like yeah we saw how that happened during 9-11 jay ferg you can come in with us if you want yeah i saw i saw her pop in. You could pop in and yak with us. Yeah, I like the fear tactic concept, but I don't know what they're fear tacticking us for. Unless, Dave, you're right. Unless you're right from the get-go.

Yeah, the distraction usually happens when the administration wants you to look away from something that they're doing or they're not doing or to you know lessen the blow of how bad they are it usually doesn't happen when uh you know they're outgoing and the new one's incoming yeah you know what's weird though i'll tell you what is weird that's happening uh what was it oh the guy who was diluting the chemo so the the there's a couple things one big one is the what's it what's what what did biden do with the sentences i can't think of the word commuting commute he commuted all the sentences right yeah largest in history yeah so who's gonna go through all them and figure out who the real demons are like the guy but that they found a guy who was diluting chemo drugs and giving them to people yeah um so who god only knows who else and the other thing that's happening is an fbi

resignation sort of situation yeah and i was talking to my family over a meal my family's now reached a point this is ridiculous and i almost feel bad as a dad but my family's reached to the point where my nine-year-old's talking about putin my wife is talking about the drones my kids talking about my oldest son is talking about the fbi people you know leaving the fbi and i'm sitting this is that this is that chick-fil-a no way yeah we're just sitting there at chick-fil-a eating talking geopolitical and uh you know it was a really good thought because i'm thinking to myself i said to my wife why would they resign because if trump fires them they'll get you know some kind of severance i'm sure i don't know how the government works but i imagine you wind up severed you know

like that yeah and she said you know because uh they know what they did and they know they got to get out now while they can so those are some big things those are some big things about distraction nobody's going to look into all these guys who are just resigning and disappearing into the shadows if we're looking up going, what the hell's up in the sky? Worse than Comey, if you can believe that. So he did more damage to that organization than all of them put together. I mean, the FBI needs to be flushed, revamped and renamed, kind of like what they did in Scotland Yard several years back. It was totally corrupt. And they actually put a sign out in front, the new Scotland Yard. That's probably why people are leaving the FBI. And my oldest was like, well, what could they have done that could have been so bad? And I said, well, imagine because we were also we were simultaneously talking about Putin and leaders who never come out of power.

And I said, imagine. Imagine how much trouble you'd get in if you were overlooking or under focusing on a attempted presidential election or not election attempted presidential assassination. Yeah. You know, I mean, if if you're complicit in that or involved, which they were, don't forget. Remember, he crooks, they said, went to Washington to talk to the FBI. I don't know if that got thrown out or disproved or whatever, but I remember reading about that and saying, oh, my God. So if you're the guy that crooks talk to and Nash comes or cash comes in and says, all right, well, we're going to have a meeting and talk about what you said to crooks before he tried to shoot Donald Trump in the head. Yeah. Yeah, that might be that might be your ass.

Who knows? That's a big deal so that's a that's that's my vote for distraction that kind of makes sense but to your point the other one was fear and you know getting everybody together in the country and i think you're on to something and i hope you're wrong but i don't think you are wrong um about some big event with Trump not getting allowed to be in the office, you know, to rally the people together. And what's up, JP? JP in chat. I don't know who JP is. It might be Jay Panetto, actually one of our members with a different name on Rumble. Actually, one of our members with a different name on Rumble. And Jayfer, he's got co-workers calling her. Wow.

What's going on with the drones? They know she follows it, huh? Yeah. She knows they know she's got a show and all that. Yeah. So they're coming for advice. This happened to her, too. I think jay for correct me if i'm wrong but i think the same sort of outcry i remember her telling me happened during the pandemic you

know what should we do so on and so forth yeah she verified it yeah it's wild should we keep we got to at least see what number three is right yeah he went through number two one and two uh this is from chase hughes if anybody wants to watch full video i was asking about theories on drones and one of our hosts uh chin from the changing earth podcast sent us this video on terror and the patriot act and then number three testing the waters this goes back to bc years. All three of these things go back to the BC years. This is not something that's original. So governments tend to test and gauge how people react. So if we accept UFOs as real and we don't freak out, that means we can kind of escalate the narrative without any pushback. So think of it like kind of a slow drip instead of pouring it all out at one time.

And if you want to look back at some of these historical parallels, this is not the first time this has happened. Just a few that come to mind right now. The first is the Gulf of Tonkin. This happened in 63 or 64. 1963 or 64. Bringing out the big one. The United States used extremely questionable reports of attacks on naval ships, which were not true, to justify escalating this Vietnam War. And then in 1962, we had this thing called Operation Northwoods. This is a declassified plan about the U.S. officials staging, quote, fake attacks, completely fake attacks, like blowing up planes with people in them to justify military actions against Cuba.

Yep. And in the post 9-11, what I would call a fear campaign. And in the post 9-11, what I would call a fear campaign. So after the attacks, governments push for these just sweeping changes like the Patriot Act, which expanded massive surveillance under the guise of terrorism. So if you just replace terrorism or communism with UFOs, you can start to see a pattern. So what might be happening? What might be happening? Should we listen to the what might be happening? Well, I think he's drawn a conclusion here that the government wants to take over more power. And if you give up your freedoms more, you know, we can control the UFOs. Yeah, well, I could see yeah well i could see that i could see that i could also see them firing up

this well-crafted story about and it could be the truth that's the scariest part but firing up this well-crafted story about what they're doing up there and why you need them up there all the time we've reached a point just like he's talking about with the patriot act where terrorists are so empowered and emboldened now that they're bringing things into the country or they're, you know, the other thing I talked about today on the show this morning was drones looking for drones. You know, sort of like the counter drone, right, because the drone swarm itself, we're all worried about. I mean, here at PBN, we've been worried about it for probably, what, two, three years. I don't remember. But I know the drone, we always, it's crazy how ahead the preppers are.

And I don't just mean us. I mean, like, the audience and the hosts combined. Like, how far ahead we are of things is crazy. And then they happen, and it sucks it sucks yeah and you hate to be right yeah you do hate to be right on a lot of this stuff especially drone swarms of death yeah but yeah yeah that's another thing they could be looking for let's get his take let's get chase's take the psyop professional right here it Right here. It might upset you. It might piss you off.

But we're going to talk about that in just a second. Don't do that to me, buddy. Keep that in your back pocket for just a second. Number one is a normalization phase. So just steadily leaking UFO footage, holding hearings, using all these terms like UAPs all the time. The government makes the idea of something out there seem reasonable. So this keeps people curious, but not panicked. Curious, but not panicked. The second part of this is setting the stage for a big reveal. And I want you

to keep that one in mind. So at some point, we might see a more dramatic event like a uf a giant ufo sighting over a major city or footage that is just impossible to dismiss and you could think giant holograms giant drones or other advanced tech just creating something that you cannot ignore so number three would be a need for a savior oh boy so once the threat feels real enough governments or even global now this sounds like uh step in as these heroes they might call for increased defense budgets maybe cover all the governments in this area need to unite into one big government, maybe a global response team, and I say that with quotes around it, to handle this threat. So this could lead to giant power shifts and more control in fewer hands is kind of the,

maybe the goal of that. And this, you could look this up. There was even a plan to stage a fake kind of alien invasion. This is on record on paper that there was a full government plan to make a fake alien invasion. But what could be next? Did you roll in to save the day, J. Fer? I did. I saw him jump, so I'm in. This is a logical next step here.

Here's what might happen. First would be escalating UFO reports. Let me shut this guy up for a minute. I appreciate him, but we'll get back to Chase's theories. But since Jay Ferg is with us, I think Dave's back now. All good,

Dave? We got Phoenix. The Phoenix is burning with us as well. Great. I don't look as cute as y'all. That's all right, but thank you for the compliment. I'm wearing the wool cardigan I finished. That one's beautiful, Jordan. Look at that thing.

What's wrong with that? Nothing. It's all of this. Oh, it looks awesome. That thing looks so comfy. So what do you got, purple and maroon and gold on there? And a cup of tea? Yellow, tan, gray, gunmetal, all of it.

It was clearance. It was discounted wool, so. I love it. And it looks very warm. Yeah, no doubt about it. And it's hot water. I think I'm on my hot water this evening. Hey, well, that's all right.

Hot water is good in the cold for sure. So what do you think about this lineup, Jay Ferg, with the fear tactics and the PSYOP and all this kind of stuff? I'm seeing so many things of it. I've had coworkers call me and ask me, so what's the deal with the drones? And they live in the area the drones are being seen. me so what's the deal with the drones and they live in the area the drones are being seen and honestly i said you know we've got three different variations that we're hearing i'm seeing different things about military personal personnel being on on top of it and i have wonder more on the serious end of it than you know i make the jokes about the the ocean aliens but then you see where

i saw a clip where the police department have been actually trying to interact and they're running into the same issue of there's no heat signature coming off of these drones whatsoever they're pulling you know 50 of them came out of out of the ocean which honestly i don't think it's necessarily coming out of the ocean but it's coming out of something of the ocean which honestly I don't think it's necessarily coming out of the ocean but it's coming out of something that's running dark and I think Dave could agree with me and how many times that we had submarines and other war crafts end up coming into areas they shouldn't be and never even get realized because they're running dark so that's why I think it's more of a strategic thing.

We there was one one drone was found in South Carolina. Redneck boy shot it down and kept it dark while he did it, too, because he didn't want to get caught for doing it. Because an old man in New Jersey was shot, was arrested for it and i had to break down the laws that even though it may be a foreign you know device of some kind it may be admitting emps because other personal drones are dying there are still the federal it's protected under federal ffa and uh and so you're you're faa oops not ffa and uh so you're running into different things and so you're gonna i think honestly we're gonna see more panic because i saw another video just tonight right before you went live where there's like six of the drones and they came down within like touching range of a person before they

shot back up into the sky down like a residential neighborhood so i don't know i think we're gonna see a lot more and then later all the pieces are gonna come together like uh we were looking up instead of looking to the left you know yeah maybe well they need um they need we need as people the people the people need a better uh we need our own ffa now we we need an FFA for the people because security has changed. And the better the drones get, the more. Here's the thing is, why? Why wouldn't you have license for drones if we have to have license just for communications? Well, not just that. I mean, they're like, if you come through my front door, there's things I can do to you.

If you're trying to come through my front door, there's things I can do to you. If you're trying to come through my front door, there's things I can do to you. If you're destroying stuff in my on my property. Right. And property's always been, you know, the grass, the perimeter and, you know, what you own. But now I think we have to talk about that property because of a drone to fly, you know, a quarter mile above your house. But see right into your backyard while your kid's swinging on the swing, that's a thing. You know what I mean? There's got to be airspace property and privacy because I know people can do that. When I was talking to Dave about the guy Adam who I got to get on the show, he's a drone – one of these guys who just loves drones.

It's not like his job or anything anything but he's in love with them and uh he flew a drone up so high i couldn't even see it this was like three years ago at a prepper event in goochland in virginia he flew it up so high nobody could see it and he showed us the video and he could see us you know so this is like a dgi or a dgj whatever that brand is run of the mill two hundred dollars i think it cost them so you can't tell me that these things can't look right into your window into your yard into whatever i mean i think what gets me is the fact that you're seeing these drones with some type of ordinance on them and it's like are you really surprised you know someone else when they called me today and they were were like, I saw one, it looks like it was doing a laser light

show. I'm like, they're shooting. I said, even the small drones that we've seen in the Ukraine war are used as devices that explode as soon as they get close to someone. So then they admit shrapnel and everything else. I'm why are you not surprised i said these drones are the size of golf carts and cars you really would expect them to have a lot more capabilities than even the smaller drones so can you imagine what they can carry how much do you think they can carry i mean in terms of ammunition because what what do you think they would fire off of a drone like that because it looked like tracer rounds right which you could easily you could easily fit anything with you know two two three five five six you know all all of the above with no problem it's heavy right rocket also makes that because once the rocket ign, you'll see a line going with the rocket.

Oh, OK. I didn't think about that. But a rocket's got to be even heavier than a damn five, five, six round. Well, I mean, I sent you I sent you something about how far advanced our technology was back in the 60s and 70s on Instagram that clip. So honestly, I think those are capable of holding about the weight of a grown man i mean that's that's what 250 pounds average anywhere from 170 to 250 pounds of ammunition that's going to be quite a bit not including what's running the whole device yeah well yeah you know we're we're thinking along the lines of the hobbyist sized drones and what militaries and China and, you know, nation states have are these big drones that are, you know, the size of small aircraft. And how our drones came about with that was the Air Force had all the drones and they were

using it for observation. And they would fly the drone over and they'd report enemy here. And then they'd fly back. And this general said, well, why didn't you just put a rocket on this thing? Air Force didn't have anything small Enough so they went to the army And they found uh i think It was the sidewinder That helicopters would fire So then they started putting two Or three or four on onto

These yeah and they and that's How it all started wow The predator began Yeah Man let's listen to this guy. Let's see what his overall theory is. Where's my tab with old Chase? I like this guy, Chase.

I could listen to some Chase on my free time. I mean, he's making some vital points, but I think we're kind of past a lot of that. Yeah, well, that's a good point. That's a very good point. Near misses with airplanes, mysterious objects interfering with infrastructure like power grids or airports. It's going to feel real and urgent. The next would be a media blitz that would come after that. So mainstream media will amplify the story.

They're going to interview pilots. They're going to release grainy videos. We're seeing that now. Explain these things that are maybe defying physics. You get more information from the civilians as a potential hypothetical to make everybody believe this is a huge

deal. Next would be a global event and this could be something absolutely wild. More of like a coordinated UFO appearance. He's thinking more of like a coordinated UFO appearance. He's thinking more of like a simulated attack or even some claim that we've made.

I don't think this has anything to do with what's going on. It just has to be believable enough. And of course, then we have a solution. Pause it for a second. Sorry, I didn't want to talk over it, but what do you think of this theory of the fact that if you run enough, you have enough people worried, enough people up in uproar, then guess what?

You get to implement military or martial law rule. And then, oh, look, the inauguration can't happen because if anytime we're under any sort of war military rule, then it pauses and holds everything else this makes sense to me this this seems like something that makes sense you know what i mean as opposed to the idea that but it's going to be like some kind of big worldwide event i don't buy that people are looking up in the sky and they're seeing drones they're not looking at it going is that a ufo no but the thing is right but the thing is is you know you're still not paying attention to what's going on around you i'm still curious all of these are you know hand in hand there's always something else at play too well to your point jay ferg all it would take is for them to say at least to get rid of the physical

inauguration now all they have to say is well we've detected something in washington dc so well and that's just it there i've seen people's theories that some of these drones are our drones but we can't admit it but they're radiation snippers yeah i've seen it, but they're radiation sniffers. Yeah, I've seen that. They're hot top, you know, hot, hot, hot spot sniffers. So I'm just like, well, how crazy would that be? Dave Jones, how crazy would it be to get a Geiger counter to read from however the hell high up they're doing? It's not crazy because they they use different kinds of sensors. So they'll use like thermal imagery and, you know, all different spectrums, wavelengths that, you know, a few years back, this would be considered impossible. But now it's definitely possible and probably highly likely that they have stuff like this that detects something that's not

in the atmosphere but contained somewhere else i mean with with all the advances of reading different thermal imagery they could tell you what's inside of something else yeah and it seemed like it was what made me most what made me think that it was legitimate was that the comment or the unit being used was something out of the private sector something from the canadian or or some kind of company that was like canadian natural resource right and um that made me think this is viable because if it's a private company, you know, they're flying drones, detecting natural resources and things like that,

trying to make money. And I always give the people who are making, trying to make a profit and have people to pay the ones who have the technology that's going to get the job done because they have to get the job done. You know, well, have the technology that's going to get the job done because they have to get the job done you know well in u.s norcom are the people that they they stood this command up after 9-11 to protect nothing but north america so and and they reactivated cheyenne mountain and put their

headquarters in there and these guys i, I mean, they have stuff. They have satellites on top of satellites. They have, you know, they can look all the way around the curvature of the earth to see things. And that's why Trump says our military sees them. They know where they go. They know where they come from because they're locked in. They have to. That's part of their mandate. And they didn't come out and say anything. Not a thing. Not yes, not no.

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Yeah. Well, this happened December 6th. And it's low level radiation, but it's perfect for a dirty bomb. Oh, that's what they're thinking. Yeah. If they want to contaminate an area and spark all kinds of panic and stuff like that, this is the stuff you would use. Selenium 75, huh? Yeah.

Very dangerous category. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, and also we have to say, we have to, you know, who verified what was in the container, right? Right. So maybe it was a missing nuclear package. Maybe it wasn't selenium-75. Maybe it was something much worse.

Who knows? Well, there's all kinds of different requirements for transportation of those things. But this actually happened. It's a report that the Nuclear Regulatory Commission filed, and it was on a railroad car and it happened to be missing in new jersey so yeah hey we got a guy from uh brush fire clothing in chat from prepper camp that's who i was saying hi hey brush fire thank you check it out what's up man you know okay i'm gonna get rid of this article because it it puts dave down here and he's his face gets cut off by it but yeah that's who knows if that's tied in or not i don't know but that's an interesting one

for sure you remember when this first started and we all agreed that they're looking for something. We just didn't know what the something was. Right. It could be a person. It could be, who knows. Now that this radiation thing is out there and, you know, some people say it's a warhead. And I'll tell you, I was explaining this today. And I'll tell you, I was explaining this today.

It's 11. He put up these. Oh, no. Oh, you froze. Hang on, Dave. You froze up on us at the most inopportune time. I'll tell you what, your Internet knows exactly what you're... I think they're monitoring us and cutting us off.

They know exactly what you're about to say. Something valuable, man, and then things get wacky. Oh, I gotta know, though. I gotta know now. I think Dave happened to reconnect. Hold on. Do you got any windows open or anything on the computer? Right.

Internet Explorer, nothing? Nothing. All right. Well, you seem clear now. I just clicked. Okay. So they have these sensors that are in the tunnels and across the bridges to New York City. So you can't sneak anything in there that they're not detecting already.

But you can go right across the river, right across the Hudson River, and, you know, that's as close as you need to be for a nuke. So if they have a nuclear warhead, they don't have to. The nuke man is getting nuked. Right. We may have to get him to write down our secondary record on the sidelines. Yeah. I mean, this would be.

And the weird thing that we always talk about on PBM when we talk about nuclear is not to be so worried, and Dave will second this when he gets back, but not to be worried as much about the fallout. Because if you get nuked by a country in an ICBM, it's an airburst, which is not going to pick up the earth and send it all the other way. It depends on where it's at. If it's within a certain level of the sky, it's not going to have fallout. It's going to have an EMP effect. Yeah. So this situation, though, if we have a detonation out of a warehouse in Manhattan across the Hudson River or whatever, that's a fallout scenario. is you know it's all going to the atlantic ocean so not too much to worry about unless you're in the direct path of it if they're you know depending on how big the thing is but that's like i have a friend in baltimore who called me as well like today was a day i was getting blown up left and right by people i bet she said that she's very nervous being that she's so close to D.C.

And I told her I understand. I was like, but unless you're willing to make a big move, you need to make sure you have at least the basics. Be have food, have water, have filtration, have something. Because sitting idly by, oh, no, this is going to happen and never doing anything. You didn't help yourselves in any kind of way yeah i haven't done it myself yet but um oh let me throw this up here i was that's what i was trying to select it too i'm sorry you go ahead you go ahead you know what you're doing you know what you're doing my bad i'm I'm so sorry. No, that's fine. Yeah, I haven't done this yet myself, but I think it's worth doing.

Where these drones are, where they are, and how the news starts to go, and how things start to feel in terms of the threat itself, it might be a time to start putting a list together on when you're going to leave your area i think that's why i was really pushing on on trying to find out from you on the emp bags so i can have a secondary means of communication because um you can think chin i you know we have the mishastic we're growing a network here but the gmrs is more feasible for me and my partner and then still having communications and getting the license. So but and then going to work my way up to ham ham is definitely, like I said, the bird watching of the communications world. It's just takes a lot of time. I just don't have our focus for it. I'm going to be honest with you. I think I've largely left ham in the dust for a while i i think i have two but gm uh gmrs has really been something that really has you looking into it for on my end as a backup means

of communication because phone lines aren't aren't you know reliable he's back so what we what we were talking about was this could lead to a potential ground detonation, which is rare, right? If it is in a warehouse across the river from the Hudson, which is kind of where you left off at. Yeah, you don't have to be in downtown Manhattan to have the effect of a nuclear bomb going on. effect of a nuclear bomb going on and uh i'm telling you if it goes off anywhere in this country it's going to be positively chaos everywhere pandemonium pandemonium people are going to lose their freaking minds yeah and all this technology that we have it goes to look for they don't go into ground zero where the bomb went off. They go to look for a secondary device. So this.

Well, you can't go into ground zero, right? I mean, limited. Well, I mean, the only help you're going to get are, you know, the local, and I mean, outside of the blast radius, first responders. There's not a big federal team that's going to come in you know what happened with the hurricane yeah this ain't that yeah good point really worse good talking millions dead in the flash of an eye yeah so yeah i mean it's it it would it's a reason to throw a hundred drones up in the sky and scare the shit out of the entire population yeah and tell them nothing

what are they gonna say oh yeah somewhere in the united states there's a nuclear warhead we just don't know where yeah if you want to see a mass exodus out of manhattan yes say that every city which is more which is more of an issue than anything because who's not to say it won't speed up whoever's playing in what and you know what you want a mass casualty moment you want them when they're all trying to leave and you have it on the side of the bridge they're evacuating even just people in a mass evacuation will wind up killing each other absolutely you know what i mean oh absolutely especially especially in the city situation people are going to take it as an opportunity to pillage and everything else so

some high-level christmas shopping going on whenever we ran an exercise at pennsylvania emergency management the evacuation order, because of Three Mile Island and all the nuclear power plants that they had in Pennsylvania, that order came with it. You're responsible for every thousand people that leave, one of them's going to die. So yeah, those people, you know, if you have an area of... So one in a thousand. One in a thousand. That was the calculation back then. Wow.

So it might even be more now because of the way... I feel like it should be more. People aren't as smart now as they were back then. Yeah. And they didn't have these. It was a lot more simpler. Yeah, exactly. This is definitely death by a mass evacuation or panic if you want to panic

something every time this thing goes d d d for amber alert oh yeah big old yeah exactly what's going on some divorcee just kidnapped his own kids yeah yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's 99% of those. I didn't realize that the majority of that, of those kidnappings is that, but whatever, you know, I get it. I get the liability and all that kind of stuff.

So yeah, that is an interesting one. Brush fire clothing in chat says, I think it's a mix between what she says and dirty bomb theory, maybe prepping for something to happen new year's eve or in the swearing in of trump he's on the same page as you dave jones yeah i mean if you want to coordinate an event over 50 cities and you wanted to go off all at the same time you know trump raising his hand putting his hand on the bible it's going to be broadcast every

television network yeah it's going to be all over the internet you know youtube tv is going to be broadcasting it live so that right there can be the the signal to kick things off man yeah and they already know it's gonna take place like the coin flip at the super bowl yeah yeah this is the thing though yeah if you do it then it it's you i just can't imagine the military response. It would have to be done so carefully that you couldn't run it back to a specific group or a specific. And, you know, there's going to be groups that take credit for it right off the bat because they love to do that. But then it's I mean, then it's just going to be like nothing we've ever seen in response. You know, probably make shock and all look like a poof yeah like when 9-11 happened um it was crazy because osama bin laden was able to get on tv

before bush was bush bush was down in florida at some elementary school. Reading to kids, yeah. Yeah, and they flew him to Barksdale Air Force Base. I only know this because I was stationed there for a while. Nuclear Weapons Command for the Air Force. And they had this big placard and pictures of Bush flying in and all that kind of stuff. But they had to secure the president. And then Cheney went to an undisclosed underground location, which I won't tell you what that was. But it was pretty crazy.

It was pretty crazy. Yeah. Oh, I bet. And this will make that look crazy. Yeah. Oh, I bet. And this will make that look pale. Yeah. But my question would be from a terrorist side of things, is it worth what's going to come after? Well. You know what I mean?

Look what we did to Afghanistan. Yeah. And then 19 years later, we pull out and give them all the weapons we have. Well, yeah, it's a good investment, I guess, if you're in the terrorism business. Yeah, the Americans will show up, but they might leave us $2 billion in tanks and choppers and headgear and the whole nine yards. If you're playing the long game, it's worth it, you know. And they are playing the long game, right? Yeah.

There's no doubt about that. Well, yeah, that's a dark one, but it's part of the picture. It's definitely part of the whole. You mentioned that Sean Ryan interview and and I only saw bits and pieces of it. But there's one thing there that she was saying about, you know, the Mumbai attacks. These are terrorists that will keep killing until they get killed. Right. And it's different from a suicide bomber because it's like, boom, you know, and it's over.

It's done. These guys, they'll go in, they'll take hostages, they'll fake negotiations, they'll kill more people in the process and uh what really got me was all those men and i mean men because there wasn't a woman or a child that they flew into these 50 different cities oh yeah yeah you've been talking about this for yeah yeah, three, four preppers' lives ago. Yeah, and if they do that with these guys, wow, what an attack. Well, you've got to think that some of those guys are in there. Oh, absolutely. What was most interesting from her, I thought, was the training.

If you didn't hear the part about the training, definitely go back and listen to that because she talked about the three types of training that they're doing over there with these guys. And I thought that it was an eye opener. You know what I mean? It was urban warfare. It was a covert operations. You know,

they don't even share. She was saying how in camp you show up to camp and get a new name right you know what i mean yeah they don't know anybody else or anybody about interrogation yeah yep yeah i don't remember what the third training was but there was three of them in total that these guys are all undergoing and and then she said you know they did it already they trained up a bunch of guys for uh for the israel attack yep and then what's coming next is the homeland attack and that's they're training them up for that now or they have them trained up or whatever the situation is so yeah they could be here and they could be primed they could be those dudes that smashed a gun store

opened it down your way and took all those long rifles. Yeah. You know, the one cool thing about America, if you're a terrorist, is you don't have to come with weapons. It's already here. You come empty handed. Yeah. You just got to know how to use it. What'd you say, Jayver?

I was about to say, I'm going to jump off. I didn't expect children to start talking to you in the background. Oh, that's all right. But I'm going to jump off. I didn't expect children to start talking to you in the background. Oh, that's all right. But I'm going to still listen. Thank you. All right. See you. I hear them.

They're having a ball, too, back there. Yeah. Them pups are ready for feeding. Yes. Puppies at Christmas is kind of cool, man. Oh, yeah. I think if I were you,'d take them up christmas morning and just rape them all over the gifts before i wake the kids up you probably wake your kids up now right there at that age they probably sleep in there like yeah

yeah yeah you're going there and shake them yeah it's it's i when i was listening to that podcast man i turned it down when my oldest son got in the car. Yeah. And that's rare. I don't usually do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's how strong that thing was. Yep.

And she was 100% legit, man. Oh, yeah. Yeah, she's got the street cred and, you know, all his other guests, he gets on her. What do you carry? And they're, oh, I'm carrying this. And she says, I don't want you to know. Yeah. Yeah, that's.

Wow. That's the answer right there. That sounds like CIA, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She she opened a lot of people's eyes, no doubt about it. I don't listen to a lot of the Sean Ryan stuff, but that was a good one.

He's done some other really good ones too. Hey, you know, thank God for her. God only knows what that could brew up and how many people that could get prepared for something that may or may not happen in 2025, you know? Could be a huge difference maker. I've got something in the works for the PBN audience to do with the Homeland preparation. Because I think it's real. I think it's legit.

It's hard to believe that we haven't been hit for how many years, you know? 20 years, 20 what what 25 years almost exactly and this dirty bomb thing and this nuke that's been around for forever you know it goes back and and they've been you know like i said they put up these sensors so that you can't get into new york city you know if if you're transporting something radioactive and it's hazardous they stop you they don't let you go you know they may stop you on the other end of the tunnel right you got it they know what truck it's in and they know who to stop and i'm i mean I mean, but unless it comes by drone. Yeah. Well, you know, the scenario that I always put out with my presentation is a 200 pound nuclear projectile that you would fire from a howitzer.

Yeah. There were tons of those. I mean, just. Unbelievable. Sort of like a I mean, just unbelievable. Sort of like a tactical nuke. Yep, yep. That you fire from a howitzer. Yeah, I often wondered about the guy that actually pulled the lanyard. Yeah.

You know. Yeah, I think he's pulling and running his ass off. Yeah. And yeah, that's terrifying. Unless it's like some kind of little bunker goes along with it. Well, we got so good about making those things smaller and smaller that we could fire a bigger one from a howitzer than we dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

What? Yeah. Yeah. on hiroshima and nagasaki what yeah yeah it will all go up if they start nuking how is their nukes going off oh my god well think about the economic upheaval i mean it like i said oh yeah ammonium no one's gonna go to work in any big city in this country if one goes off in chicago los angeles you know it's just mass accidents every city yeah every city's emptying out yeah it'd be like something out of batman the joker exactly yep tumblewe just blowing down the tunnels full of people. But then I've said this before, too.

When I first started at NASA, they had this scenario that this this suitcase nuke was going to go off in Las Vegas. OK. go off in in las vegas okay and then and then the two senators from vegas you know after they had planned this and prepped and spent all the training money and all this kind of stuff they said oh no we can't do that because that'll lessen tourism if we even just practice practice this thing so uh i'm in this meeting and there's like a hundred people in this room and and one of them says well if it goes off in las vegas it won't affect us at all now this is in dc and i said no it goes off in vegas it's gonna affect the whole country. I don't care where you're at. If not the world. Yeah.

You know? Yes. Even terrorists. There would be a big sucking sound in Northern Virginia with everybody leaving. Definitely. There's already a big sucking sound in Northern Virginia. But yeah, if it's a terrorist group then the uk has to go london has to be like are we next what's going on we might be next shit yeah well i think we've

thoroughly ruined everyone's monday night right before christmas this seems to be a theme with us you're welcome everyone freak out mondays freak out Mondays. Freak out Mondays. Hey, look, this, I mean, it's often us or us in a little article that's talking about this kind of stuff. You know, an article written by like a Mike Snyder or a Zero Hedge author or something like that. This is happening, you know, everywhere. It's everywhere. We're in the midst of a war with Russia. We've got the drones up in the sky Looking for something we've got Israel doing

Its thing it's time to be prepared It's time to get prepared Yeah and the world is Picking sides right now and we're sitting Here sucking our thumbs Koreans are Fighting in Ukraine China is providing

Drones to Iran You know it's it's just the uh axis powers are getting back together and we ain't doing anything my youngest son told me a little factoid about the north korean army today yeah i don't know if it's 100 true but he said that the soldiers have a height limit. They can't be taller than Kim Jong. Oh, yeah, they were talking about that, but I don't know if that's exactly true. Yeah, he said it was 5'4". He does limit who's in pictures with him. Oh, because of that.

Yeah, yeah. You think that's why he likes the nba so much because he dreams of being a big tall dude maybe maybe hey so just to recap here's what i think most likely yeah let's hear it it's it's most likely our government i agree most likely they're looking for something also agree and it's it's most likely that we won't know anything until Trump takes over or whatever this thing is they're looking for happens. And they get it clear of everything important. Yeah. Yeah.

Either that or they fail at that. Yeah. Right. Either they find it and get it somewhere safe or they fail at that. Yeah. Right. Either they find it and get it somewhere safe or they fail. And then you find out because you go, damn it. I knew we should have went to New York when we had the chance. Yeah.

Or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's, I think that's where most people are at. I think the, the foreign entity thing seems too hard to believe for me i feel like generals and and high-ranking military would be on youtube and on the news and screaming you know their silence is

speaking volumes right exactly you know like they would be out saying there's somebody up there far and this is crazy exactly right like you from your standpoint i'm sure you would be one of those guys if you were in the military you wouldn't be sitting idly by going well i guess we'll find out eventually what they're doing flying around up there yeah that's not an option yeah exactly exactly i don't care how woke the military's gotten there's still people up there ready to do it. Yeah. All right. Yeah. I'm sorry. We're low on prepping advice. I mean, it's, it wasn't really a show for that. Stay tuned, you know, how do you prep for that kind of stuff?

Here's what you're doing every day, because you know, if you're able to hold up in your house for weeks or months and not go out, you know, huge difference maker for whatever reason. If you have the food and the water and the means of securing yourself, you know, and you guys were talking about comms when I got flipped off there. You know, comms are good if you have someone that you can communicate with. Yeah. If if there's no one out there. Yeah, I mean, you can scan, though, for information. Yeah, absolutely. If things get real bad and there's no TV signal and stuff like that, scanning the ham radio, you won't be able to verify verify anything but you'll be able to hear at least you know something uh because i'm sure there'll be some kind of national message going

out on the on the high frequency the plan for the nation is noah so the the noah network is the emergency broadcast network that they're going to use if they have to get information out. And that one, I think you can program Noah into even a bow fang without hooking it up to a computer. That's pretty easy to find and pretty easy to program. So definitely do that. Even the cheapest, you know, ham radio, you can get your hands at probably GMRS too. I just don't play around with it. You know, the other thing that's probably worth, you don i just don't play around with it um you know the other thing

that's probably worth you don't have to go haywire with it but at least something that'll help you sleep tonight is you find that room if you're in tornado alley you probably have it already or if you're in somewhere that experiences that like that room at the center of the house concept is is viable as long as you're not if you're in the blast radius you don't need to worry about it anyway so right but but if you're worried about something you know nearby and fall out and that kind of thing then having a room in the center of the house is something you could fortify and go ahead plug for the book because oh yeah yeah of course the link is in the description too to pbnfamily.com so if you are concerned and you want to read more from this guy right here, Dave Jones, the NBC guy, the Ronin of nuclear warfare nowadays, or at least nuclear war preparation.

Hey, and I am going on that guy's podcast. Oh, Mike C.? Oh, that's going to be good. His audience is going to love you, man. Yeah, so pbnfamily.com. Go down. As soon as you get there, you're going to see four options at the bottom or on the main page. The one that is a bullseye looks like the Target logo. Right below that, you get the book for free, Nuclear War Prepared, Not Scared. Click on it. It's a PDF. Read it on your lunch break or whatever. It's a short read full of great information about surviving a situation just like this.

And, you know, another thing that Dave said that is that if we get further down the road, you may want to consider is I always loved your idea, Dave, about sleeping in the basement. Right. You know, and being down there at night because the probability that these things go boom at night is pretty high as opposed to middle of the day right but i mean look yeah yeah the thing about pbn is if if you go to pbnfamily.com you will be inundated with preparedness stuff so even if we don't talk about it in deep detail uh it's always there it's always hanging on you know jay ferg's got it printed dave jones thank you yeah have it

printed out hard give it to your grandkids yeah it's worth it all right folks oh what's going on here oh sorry dave i just right just now got your i don't know how to rejoin private message All right, folks. What's going on here? Oh, sorry, Dave. I just now got your I don't know how to rejoin private message. Oh. I guess you figured it out. I'm back. All right, folks. We're calling it a night.

You feel good, Dave? Yeah, I feel good. I got to feed these puppies. I appreciate you coming on tonight, man. Thanks so much. No problem. Happy to help. All right, folks. We will talk to you maybe next Monday. We'll see. Adios. It's been a good one. Preppers live Dave Jones,

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