The Prepper Broadcasting Network - PBN RINGS IN THE NEW YEAR with HOSTS!

Episode Date: January 1, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 soy lattes no no there's no soy it's whole milk thank you very much uh no speaking of tacos the uh i bought uh i found a store next to me or not far from me it has um lamb it had ground lamb i bought a few a few pounds of ground lamb so i was gonna make lamb tacos oh that sounds good burgers if it if it works out then i was gonna actually if it if it works out i was actually gonna buy some and then uh that was gonna do that prepper camp next year oh i mean you know mardi gras is only in five weeks so so what are you saying buy some lamb it down here, and make us lamb tacos? Get a ticket down. We'll make lamb tacos.
Starting point is 00:00:46 We'll do crawfish boil. I thought you said Mardi Gras. So do I need to bring the beads? Sounds like a fair trade. Sounds like you're going to get lunch. We don't really do Mardi Gras. No thanks. I was just in it for the food. Barlins, man. I wouldn't go to Bourbon Street do Mardi Gras. No thanks. I was just in it for the food.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Marlins, man. I wouldn't go to Bourbon Street and Mardi Gras unless I was wearing a plate carrier. How do you? I know. Who's cooing? Is that Andrew? That's me. That's Andrew.
Starting point is 00:01:20 The little one. Oh, there he is. Well, in case you haven't realized it yet, PBN family, we've turned the New Year's Eve show into a hangout. We all turned cameras on and started making jokes about all kinds of inappropriate stuff, and we're just going to keep on rolling. So hang out with us if you like.
Starting point is 00:01:39 If not, we'll see you in the new year. There's the little baby Rick Austin. Rick Austin Jr. over there little rick no denying that daddy no yeah he does it for sure the polish genes are strong i didn't even know i looked at the doctor i'm like i'm like wow that's the whitest baby i've ever had i'm like is he supposed to be this white don't worry his color will come in she goes what's daddy i said he's polish she goes oh she said he's african what are you talking about he does he and now instead of that skit from that i don't know what movie it is oh that's the damnedest white baby i've ever seen that ain't my baby that's a white man baby he's gonna start talking and he's gonna be like mama am i albino no well what what's funny is i
Starting point is 00:02:37 after he was born i went i bought a a bottle of a sunscreen because i can he be in the sun all my babies are brown. How does this work? You bought you bought some bronzer just so you can fit in. No, no, he's beautiful. I just did. Blonde hair, blue eyes. I mean, look, this does not look
Starting point is 00:02:58 like me. What I'm hearing is we figured out that your man's genes are definitely the dominant genes in the soup. Apparently on this one, yeah. Because those jeans overrode all your jeans. I got three who look like me. So,
Starting point is 00:03:15 I guess this is fair. It's fair. Don't say it. No, I had a thought, but it was wholly inappropriate. It's all saved for later. James, what are we streaming on? What's the chat that we can get on? Oh, I bet it's an element. Oh, yeah, we would be an element if there's anybody around.
Starting point is 00:03:37 I'm sure people are around. Well, yeah, maybe. We might have a pop-in from the Garden Girl and JB. I don't know, man. People might be partying. But I'm glad to be with you guys. I guess everyone should know. Jordan's with us.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Jay Fergie's with us for Phoenix Survival. The Matter of Facts contingent is here in all its glory. We've got Andrew Bobo. Only because of me. We've got Phil and we've got Gillian with us. So we're bridging all the gaps here oh yeah silver streaks in there what's up buddy thanks for joining us tonight um come think of it you've got four shows represented here amongst the five of us that's pretty yeah that's pretty sweet that is
Starting point is 00:04:17 pretty sweet and dave jones is supposedly going to be on in a bit with larry many of you don't know larry some of you will know larry he's just a friend of dave's who's close by he's a he's a free range guy he's the guy who up on the mountain lets come shoot all his crazy guns in uh you know for for like usually a trade of like some beef or pork or just a meal he's a great dude um and rumor has it that the bufords could potentially stop in i don't know we'll see haven't heard from them since the finale show which if you've been listening has been uh has been running on the best of ticker man put the the best of shows guys When I sat down and went through the year and pulled the best of shows this year, there was like 60 of them.
Starting point is 00:05:09 I think there's 60 shows from the best of, which is insane. Because that's probably how many podcasts people do in a year. Or maybe less, even. I don't know. I don't know what the average podcaster pumps out in a year. But we had so many good ones. It's just crazy. I mean, I think the average podcast is usually weekly, so that usually syndicates to 52 shows a year.
Starting point is 00:05:34 No vacation, too, right? So probably 50. Yeah. Yeah, it's a different beast here at PBN. But what can he say into the mic? he know any words he knows mama and hi those are the important ones though that goes oh my god pappy cannoli in chat what is up dude what are you doing you should have like 25 grandkids all in your ear holes and oh my gosh yes pappy but he's killing it on all of the power challenges
Starting point is 00:06:06 and the health fitness i mean i walk up the stairs and i'm winded this man could outrun me in a heartbeat yeah kills me pappy went crazy i remember i remember one time in chat years years years ago pappy said i'm obese in the chat and i never forgot no he said that i've never thought no no this is like this was years ago you know like when you were in chat and i was like uh i don't know why it always stuck with me because we talked all the time me and pappy and then all of a sudden he was just like a tidal wave what was it like two years ago now, I think? He just came so hard. I mean, he crushed me in that bicycle thing he did, that all-out bicycle ride. I didn't get nothing in on him.
Starting point is 00:06:51 He just took me to task over there. So keep it up, Pappy, man. You were the reason for the whole Pappy's Iron Paradise in the Element chat room, too. You were the reason for the whole fitness thing over there outside of our prep or fit and health stuff but yeah ma'am way to go way to be pappy down there in uh louisiana too you know yeah i think lake charles right or south of lake charles i don't know beware the old man, he says. I like it. I like it.
Starting point is 00:07:26 How do I get... Hey, so I'm new to the whole element thing really quick. How do I get into the chat? So send one of us your name, and we can get you added into each of the rooms. Oh. I was going to say, Jordan knows how to work the tech
Starting point is 00:07:45 better than me everyone no I mean I didn't know that I'm going to send you a link that might oh Dave's asking for a call so I guess he's coming on too I'm going to send you a link Andrew that'll take you right to I'm just going to
Starting point is 00:08:00 because I do have a link direct to the live chat room that you can sign up in. That's the name that... I don't know if you guys can see. Yeah, I saw it. Okay, you can do that, right, Jordan? Probably quicker than I can get him a link. Is that the chat that we can see, too?
Starting point is 00:08:16 Or no? No, it's just in Skype. I'll send the chat link into Skype so the rabblies can also hop in there. Dave Jones, let me get him a call, too. Hang on one sec. I don't know where Dave Jones is at with the alcohol consumption, so he could come up in here and be just on another level.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Off the rails. Yeah, but when is he not fun when he's like that? When is he not fun, period? He's fun stone sober. Right. It's just more chaotic kind of fun when he's drinking. I'd say less. As the kids would say,
Starting point is 00:08:58 say less. Dave and I pulled up to a Amish farm about two weeks ago, two weekends ago ago and it was the craziest group of people and i didn't even think about it i like a dumbass i wore like a punisher hoodie so i had like this big giant terrifying skull face on and i stepped out of my truck and the little amish kids were there and they ran i was like oh shit i didn't even cross my mind but yeah just having him there with maria there and this dude in a in
Starting point is 00:09:31 a like a wicker hat divvying out half sides of pork it was such a weird situation to be in but man they're fun them joneses andrew see if you can use that link because for whatever reason it's acting like you're not even in here when i try to find you right yeah yeah i don't know exactly what you have to do but it should it should be i clicked on it and i'm downloading element right now to my okay so all right let me know if it't, and then I'll see what I can do on my end. Yeah, Element is a few steps more than a regular chat, but I love it because— But it's our way of keeping the spam out. You've got nothing to worry about because you can't just fall into it by accident. You can't be like, oh, let's see where PBN's chat is, and we can go in there and start some shit.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Because we do have a ton of chat rooms in there. We got like 20-some chat rooms in there, man. David Jones in the house. I hear ice clinking in glasses. Is that coming from your house? I don't think so. Oh. I think that was a baby's toy.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Not yet, anyways. No, it was Jordan's kid getting whiskey, apparently. What did I miss? It might have froze up for a second. I heard the baby toy, and it sounded like glass. I mean, ice hitting a glass. No, I stuck him on the bed so he can have tummy time, and he's got a frog that rolls with a ball in it and it rattles.
Starting point is 00:11:07 I got you. Good old tummy time. I was doing tummy time with our new nephew today. We got a new little fielder. He's already rolling over and trying to set up. This was a year of babies. 2023 was a year of babies, man. There was a lot of babies popped out this year.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Seriously, it was. I had multiple family members have kids. Jordan had a baby. Crazy. It's a big year. COVID. COVID. COVID.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Lockdown. Lockdown. No. Are you speaking in tongues right now? What's going on? No. That's speaking in tongues right now? What's going on? No, that's not when that happened. That's some serious gestation, Dave. Extra long pregnancy.
Starting point is 00:11:53 We're not elephants. We've all turned into elephants. Is Larry hanging with you, Dave? Dave's on mute. He must be busy. Larry is right here. What's you, Dave? Dave's on mute. He must be busy. Larry is right here. What's up, Larry? Hey, we bought that far-right beer for my brother-in-law for Christmas, by the way.
Starting point is 00:12:14 I forgot to tell you that, Dave. They got this crazy... It's not bad. I didn't try it. Oh, yeah, it's good. Is it? I'm not a big light beer guy is it light beer or what no it's right here it's an ipa oh okay okay no no this is not this is not the world of dylan mulvaney trust me no i got that it's funny it's a funny i should
Starting point is 00:12:43 throw it up in the chat room what's it called uh it's just called far right isn't it far right beer or something ultra right beer ultra right oh so we're a little few steps further than far right we are ultra right oh look they got naked women on the on the website okay no. No way! Half. I didn't go to the website. 90% I guess. I guess they're putting some kind of catalog out. Oh, okay. Why do I have to put my birth date in to look at the beer website?
Starting point is 00:13:18 You're not allowed to have beer, man. Jeez. Phone's going to crash immediately. zuckerberg face shows up well i just saw a uh thing uh i think it was from like best buy or somewhere in it it was back from uh was it uh oh shoot um what was the last big scare the tech scare there uh what cyber attack or what are you talking yeah no in 2000 um when they were saying you know yeah y2k oh yeah 99 to 2000 yeah and it was uh there was some some picture i saw that popped up it was like don't forget to like turn your computer off uh before before midnight so it doesn't crash or do whatever and freak out. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:07 I don't remember. But it was – I was like, hey, I remember that. I remember that whole scare. It was like everything was going to go down and big old blackout, stuff like that. I had a buddy – Funny thing is – Go ahead. I talked to some buddies that work in the IT field, and they actually told me that there were – there really were some limited circumstances where there was hardware out there in the business world that specifically had to be – the code had to be modified before it rolled over in the year 2000.
Starting point is 00:14:36 But it was extraordinarily blown out of proportion, as you can imagine, to basically say it's going to be computermageddon. But I talked to my buddy, and he was like, yeah, we had to go in and add about six keystrokes, and it was patched. Like, it was not a big deal. But made for good heaven. That was the first time I ever even heard of a survivalist in my whole life. My buddy. What, Y2K?
Starting point is 00:15:03 Yeah, my buddy Andrew. I was in, like, eighth andrew i was in like eighth grade and i was gonna say you're only a few years older than me because i remember my mother talking about it and i remember being saying oh i'm a survivalist and she goes oh so you're an anarchist and having a huge argument about the whole situation with her yeah she was the one who talked about conversation she was the one who talked about um having cattle and food and storage and stuff like that even though you know so it's it was an interesting thing to have an argument with an adult as a child because you and i aren't far
Starting point is 00:15:38 from the same age no definitely not well you're young i got a y2k go ahead Go ahead. Let's hear Dave's Y2K. So I was in the Pennsylvania National Guard Emergency Operations Center, and I was running the personnel section of it. And we had different places that were standing up. different places that were standing up. Philadelphia had people on, Pittsburgh, and they were supposed to call in their strength every hour on the hour. Okay, so I'm sitting there. We're counting it down, 10, 9, 8. My phone goes off at my desk. So I go running over and answer. And it's kind of stuff. We go back to the thing. And after a while, I think Sting was on Sting. You know, it was New Year's and Sting was performing. And the colonel comes over to me and he says, who was that? And I said you know yeah i said i think it's sting
Starting point is 00:17:11 you should have saw the look on his face we gotta get rid of this jones character i don't know why why is he calling us it was funny yeah my buddy in middle school he's telling me that his parents were like stockpiling food and toilet paper and all kinds of stuff in their basement and i was like for what and he was like why hey man why 2k it's all the computers are gonna break and i was like that is the dumbest shit i've ever heard. Drew, what are you talking about? And here I sit all those years later. I don't know. They were ahead of the game.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Toolman Tim was ahead of the game too, apparently. He said he was preparing for Y2K and all that business. Yeah. You know, I actually saw a comment on a youtuber's uh one of the youtubers i follow he was doing a talk about preparedness and uh the very first comment on there stuck with me he basically said everything is LARPing until it's not yeah because that was one of the things a youtuber had said was like you know a lot of people that like train with tactical gear they get accused of LARPing and they get kind of shamed into not doing it.
Starting point is 00:18:28 And that comment was like, everything's LARPing until it's not. And that stuck with me because I'm like, it's kind of like with preparedness. You know, we have this conversation all the time about how most of the stuff we do is crazy until it's not crazy anymore. Oh, yeah. No, I love that. The minute it becomes useful, all of a sudden, it's like this little bit of validation where it's like, oh, this is the reason we've been, you know, flirting with the edge of poverty sometimes trying to stack food and toilet paper and water and all these things just in case.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Yeah. Well, that's like the conversation I had mid, you know, mid-COVID with a woman. I went in for charcoal. I didn't have to go grocery shopping at all for the first six months. I mean, we knew how I kept my food storage. Oh, yeah. And she goes in and I'm talking to her and she goes, oh, so this is your fault because I'm not shy about being a prepper. I'm not shy about it.
Starting point is 00:19:19 And I laughed at her and I was like, no. I said, what people are doing now is called hoarding. I stocked up over time. I said, I'm here just to watch the shit show. And she goes, oh, that makes sense. Because I told her, I said, I don't have to. Because she implied that I had already hoarded food. I said, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:19:39 What people are doing now is hoarding. What I did was planning and over time stocked up and accumulated for my family. So there is a big difference between rush hoarding and well planned out. And when she when I told her I was just there to watch the shit show, she goes, oh, OK, that makes sense. And stood there with me as we watched people being chaotic trying to buy toilet paper because remember we were following it when it was like five cases of people and we knew this was coming we knew it was going to happen because we watched it happen in china so we had all already stocked up on our supplies and so it was literally one of those moments where i'm watching people fight over
Starting point is 00:20:21 toilet paper and paper towels and it's just like i'm just here for charcoal it was the one thing I didn't think to pick up a few extra because I just wanted to grill that evening well but this is like the critical difference between hoarders and preppers hoarders buy as a reaction preppers buy before there's an emergency exactly because like this is something that gillian and i went through a couple years ago i mean you know we we i kind of took a look at our preps and i said we're really really thick over here we're a little light over here and we started reprioritizing where our money was going where that extra budgeted monthly money was going to kind of build something up. And we started getting really, really laser focused on building up our food stock, you know, bought, bought a chest
Starting point is 00:21:11 freezer, started vacuum bagging meat, started putting stuff away and bought a can rack. I mean, we expanded our long-term food storage from four or five gallon buckets. I think we're up to like 10 now. I don't know i've gotten to the point where i stopped trying to figure out how long it'll last and i'm like it can never last long enough just get more put it away right but like i told everybody we were doing all this primarily because this was back in like 20 this was back in like covid ammunition costs went through the ceiling firearm costs went through the ceiling, firearm costs went through the ceiling, so there was no point spending any budgeted money on things that were expensive at that time and in high demand.
Starting point is 00:21:50 So we shifted to something that wasn't really, like the cost of food hadn't really taken off yet. So we started stockpiling something that nobody else was. And then by the time, you know, the food prices and inflation really caught up hard, we'd already built up a stock, and now we're reprioritizing somewhere else. Like that's the difference between hoarders and preppers. Preppers look at they look at what their preps are and they make an intelligent decision about what the next emergency might be.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Where am I the thinnest? And that's how they prioritize. It's use and functionality. Right. It's use and functionality. We. It's use and functionality. We know we're going to use it. We know we're going to. That was one of those biggest things we saw was rice and beans depleting so quickly.
Starting point is 00:22:33 And then I'm talking to people. I'm like, do you even know how to store this? Well, no. Do you even normally eat this? Well, no, but we need it. Are you sure? Because you're not doing any your family any favors if you're buying 20-pound bag of rice or a 20-pound bag of beans and you have no clue what you're going to do with it. That's the beautiful part about buying lots of red beans and rice is that I know I'll eat it.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Right, same. My family might murder me after the second week of eating a lot of red beans and rice, but I'll eat that stuff all the way through the apocalypse. When I buy rice, I buy it in bulk. I buy it in at least no less than a 20-pound bag. I do go through the hassle of separating it to one-pound increments and vacuum sealing each one-pound increment because we'll use it in no time because we eat a lot of rice in our family. Well, on top of that, I found more rice I had forgotten got shoved to the back, and i thought we were out so we're good there and then my mother sent me home with another 10 pounds of rice
Starting point is 00:23:29 so i'm like i'm not upset to have food in this house by any means so rice beans uh even flour though people don't realize you can dry can flour to try to make it last. And so people, there are options for things that you don't think about. So it's like taking everything you have and extending it just a little bit further, but also making sure. So in our house, we know what we have stored, but we also have recipes for those foods we have stored based on their portion. So it's like, oh, so I only need one bag of this and one bag of this and we've got this meal well the chickens eat anything that's expired yeah that is true pigs will too yeah pigs are good for a lot of things i i miss having pigs making neighbors disappear that too for legal purposes making purposes, that's a joke.
Starting point is 00:24:26 It's a joke. If you let them go feral even a week after that, they'll even eat the teeth. Look, pigs are miracle creatures. They make uninvited guests into bacon. That's almost as cool as cows turning grass into steak. Pigs are the best. What we've talked about on our show, on Matter of Facts, there is the,
Starting point is 00:24:49 is getting, I mean, because especially with the family, is stocking the food that you like and stocking the food that your family likes. Well, stocking the food that you'll actually eat too. There's no point in stocking up all this excessive if you're not going to touch it.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Well, no, and that's what I'm saying. That goes along with what you were saying. And so they were – if your kid doesn't like something, you're not going to stock SpaghettiOs when they don't like SpaghettiOs. And if it's not going to get eaten, it's just going to go bad. But this shows the difference between how we've raised our children – well, generational raised our children versus how we've raised our children well generational raised
Starting point is 00:25:25 our children versus how we were raised i'm i grew up if i was hungry even if i didn't like it i was gonna eat it as an adult even if i don't like it and i'm hungry i'm going to eat it and these children today have had and even these young adults have been catered to to some. Oh, gross. Is it going to eat you? Because if not, I'm going to eat it. It's food. I'm sorry. I've been poor and hungry. I'm going to eat.
Starting point is 00:25:51 It reminds me of actually the book. The book I'm listening to right now is Franklin Horton's Dislocated, the new one from the bar, the Mad Mix series, the latest one he just came out with. And it's funny because that is one part of the book uh basically i'm not don't want to talk too much about it but in the one in this part they basically say hey we're going here so we got to we're actually going to um part ways with this other group of people but we're going to give you a week supply of food and kind of send you on your way and the people that they uh that they sent out that decided to leave they start in the book they're bitching because they're like well are there any gluten-free uh are any of these gluten-free uh did they even i don't like this
Starting point is 00:26:36 flavor did they even care about this flip of what i liked and they just started griping about it i'm like tell me you're joking no i mean in the, in the book, it's in the book. So but yeah, so but I mean, it's just funny how he wrote it, like because he wrote it so perfect. And it's just the way he did it was awesome. And so but it's just funny because I got me thinking, I'm like. They're going to be if you're hungry, you're not going to care what what something tastes like. It could taste like cardboard and you're still going to eat it because you're hungry, you're not going to care what something tastes like. It could taste like cardboard, and you're still going to eat it because you're starving. I mean, that's basically the whole theory behind why I ate army chow.
Starting point is 00:27:14 There you go. And it did taste like cardboard sometimes. I think people are just so far removed from starving in America that it's hard for them to even wrap their head around it. Like, when's the last time anybody has been like starving you know what i mean like i haven't eaten unless it's self-imposed like i fasted for two days or something like that you know this also tends to be why like i'm such a big proponent of like you know camping and hiking and like any any kind of admittedly a recreate you recreation, but anything that forces you to be the tiniest little bit uncomfortable. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Anything that forces you to be on your feet for 12 to 14 hours, live outside, deal with the heat, deal with the cold, deal with the bugs. You know, like have to work 10 times as hard to cook your meals. Because, like, face it, I mean, for anybody that's been an avid camper, you know, everything's harder when you're camping. Everything takes longer. There is no modern convenience unless what you can bring in and out with you. But that's why I love to promote that for people, because it forces you to endure and even embrace a certain amount of discomfort. And just knowing how to be uncomfortable and suck it up and deal with it like that is a skill sometimes oh yeah yeah and speaking of uncomfortable we have a an operation that's coming up uh i think it's on the 15th if i'm not mistaken i have no clue but
Starting point is 00:28:42 i gotta get clued in I could tell you that much. It's going to be Gotham. Get out. I'm going to go get more wine. You let them know. OK, so the Patriot Power guys are putting the money where the mouth is. And they are actually going to do a relocation to my location on uh the weekend of the 15th and they're gonna camp out in the snow or cold or wet or whatever it is yeah no bueno we're gonna evaluate their their progress or lack of progress now the last two... What's the time frame
Starting point is 00:29:26 that they need to complete it in? Well, first they're gonna move. They're gonna have a movement like that Friday night. And future Dan wants to start at midnight. And I think that's way
Starting point is 00:29:42 too late because the last time they went... time dan wants to kill us that's all he's intended killing someone well he's a former airborne ranger and and when i say former i mean former okay well it's not a it's not a judgment thing. It's a fact. You know, you get older, I can't do half the shit I used to do. Sure. Yeah, but he's still got it in him, though. He's still got it in him.
Starting point is 00:30:13 He's still going to bite down on that mouthpiece and get it done. That first Azure Highland, man, when he told me about pulling out the Swiss Army knife with the serrated blade and cutting through what the hell is he cutting through briars what was he cutting through yeah cutting through briars like a machete yeah i was just like okay you got it still my man it's in there it's definitely so uh the intrepid commander is also going to join this crew, and they are going to meet up here and build a shelter, camp out for the weekend, go through a series of things that I'm supposed to set up for them to go through. So just getting here, I think, would be unbelievable but that's going to be the weekend of the 15th so i'm looking forward to it i'm looking forward to seeing how i feel
Starting point is 00:31:14 because whenever i see these guys do the azure island the day after the morning after they look like they've been beaten they look like they've been rescued from some sort of prison camp by the time I get to you guys the next morning. So I'll be interested to see how I feel. He talked about fasting like three days before he started this. I don't think we'll make it if we fast for three days and then try to do all that in the cold. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:47 We'll be sleeping on the side of a road somewhere, just like hypothermic. I need like an emergency beacon if I'm going that hard. Just phone in to Dave immediately. Beep! Come rescue us. Take us to Newt Guru's hideout. It'll be fun, though. Before we get going too far,
Starting point is 00:32:13 I do want to throw out there to the people who are listening, our Prepper Camp. I kind of want to throw that out there about Prepper Camp. I mean, if you haven't gotten your tickets, I believe they go up in price after today. Yeah, at midnight. Yeah, at midnight. They do.
Starting point is 00:32:31 So this is the cheapest they can get them. Right. So, I mean, Dave, are you going to be at camp this year or no? Dave? Well, I got gotta tell you so i started the new job as history teacher and i didn't want to bail on them like three weeks in the school so and i'll tell you the situation that happened here at home it's good i didn't go because i'd just be packing up and going back but this year i am going good i am going i'm gonna set it up ahead of time they're gonna watch a video on how the nuclear bomb was created and i'm gonna test it
Starting point is 00:33:15 when i get back you're gonna you're gonna show the movie oppenheimer no don't show that movie it's a christian school oh okay yeah don't show them that movie i didn's a Christian school. Oh, okay. Yeah, don't show them that movie. I didn't know it was a Christian school. You can't get away with that. And a few went all kinds of crazy in that movie. Yeah. No, we missed you last year, but, I mean, we understood why you couldn't make it. So, I mean, I'm not holding your feet to the fire or anything.
Starting point is 00:33:42 I just was hoping that you'd go. So it was just the the uh you're you're uh the nbc guy class not being there and because i've sat in that class i think every year it's always fun to sit in there and um because you have you have the way like you update it into what's needed but it's funny because you always like every year you you say something or you do a joke and usually it's a it's a couple women that like get really angry um and it's like the one year you're sitting there and you said this joke and the one lady was she like she goes yo that's not very funny and i i was like what what did i miss because that was hilarious i don't remember the joke but um no so it's good to have you back i'm glad i don't know jones needs his own comedy
Starting point is 00:34:25 hour truth be told i'll tell you what it was how to prep for the apocalypse but uh in a humorous way no no no no just a whole hour of his jokes and improv i mean all we had to do remember that one year we gave him a topic and literally he came up with three jokes per topic that we gave him camels come on y'all come on do you not remember that oh i remember the camel joke night yeah that was great you know l douglas hogan found uh found a pretty i don't know if you guys heard that episode but he found a really funny literal stand-up comedian who was kind of right in our wheelhouse and it brought back that idea years ago dave jones and i were playing with this idea about doing a comedy show like a legit comedy show on pbn for
Starting point is 00:35:13 the holidays red beacon that may happen that yeah that too so it's funny that you say that because i watched a show on amazon prime that was called after the dark and um it actually is a class of 20 students and they have to be in this mindset of who they would choose and 10 people out of the 20 to be in the bunker for a year yeah out of 20 and they give these reasonings and it's funny is at the end you think about it is the woman even though i don't agree with her choices she did make it clear how morale and how happiness makes it easier to survive such a time so i mean you know regardless david's going to the bunker. Dave is going. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:36:07 I've got to have Dave in there. I mean, do you really honestly think, though, that you could make it a blue year in a bunker with anybody? I mean, honestly, if I managed to make it through a year in Iraq without murking half my battle buddies, yeah. I think I could figure it out. I was going to say, you know know we've been through enough challenges yes it would be it would be daunting but you've got to think about it is you still have to things to keep you busy for me it would be my crochet if i had to sit in a bunker without my crochet or something to keep me busy i would go insane i have maybe we need to better define the specs of the bunker yeah what what what are we saying exactly because bunker is very subjective size of a room is it a
Starting point is 00:36:52 right is it with a cool gym in it right this bunker and they had a uv therapy area they had a sound garden they had a relaxation area so you could decompress so you didn't have to deal with depression yeah it was very that's a spa it is a spa which none of us have ever been to a spa i'm sure i haven't anyways oh i've definitely been to spas where are you waiting on i'm broke i know but not always gotta hit some man. That's a good time. Eventually. I'll sell enough crocheted stuff. Eventually.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Well, you're coming back. Which I'm working on a wool vest. Oh, I thought that was a bag. That looked like a forging bag. No, no, no. I actually have some more forging bags, but I'm switching to cotton instead of acrylic. And I'm going to see how they do. So I'm going to be sending out some more testing bags to a few of y'all inside pocket made out of it's cotton it's 100 cotton the inside pocket is you said you made some with a pocket inside yeah
Starting point is 00:37:55 so everything is 100 cotton on the inside of that bag and now i'm trying to switch to making the whole thing out of cotton the bag bag itself, the liner, everything. The liner is cotton. And I tried to use a durable cotton. So then when you're harvesting or gathering, it's easy to wash out. And the only reason why I was using acrylic originally is, well, acrylic's what I had. And acrylic holds up to quite a bit and is a little bit sturdier. zipped quite a bit and is a little bit sturdier but with how i'm making the bags now the liners i think i can get away with the cotton bag even though cotton tends to stretch a little bit more
Starting point is 00:38:30 in yarn i need you you gotta get a home for that bag so i can link it in our foraging course on the pbn family website i need to get a tool section chins hine hiney. He's got the new ones. Or gifted the new ones. No, I mean like a link to where people can buy it. Because then I can put it in that course. You know what I mean? I think that. Because it's sweet.
Starting point is 00:38:59 I mean, it's a great design. It's a cool design. Dave, how's yours handled? And you've used it. You like it? I think I'm going to stick with a longer strap yeah i do think it needs a longer strap i brought it on our camping trip um what a month ago but i didn't get around to using it so it's still in my hiking bag no no worries i mean i that's why i'm all up for, you know, critiques.
Starting point is 00:39:25 If you have suggestions or opinions, Sarah was the one who suggested the pocket because she said she likes to be able to have a way to separate when she's gathering eggs as well as other things. So I was like, OK, that makes sense. So the pocket I make is flexible. So then if you decide you don't want to use the pocket it collapses and then you have the entire space of the bag to keep using it yeah yeah the pocket's a good idea especially spring summer spring summer fall so dave you may have another bag headed your way oh okay dave you need bags and bags just for the raspberries that grow up on that mountain, man. Yeah, that's what we did find out. The bag was a little small for some of the stuff we were gathering. I can send you bigger.
Starting point is 00:40:13 I can make bigger bags. That just was one of you. Everybody from the group got the prototype. Y'all got the first version. Wow. Size does matter, you know. Disapproving nod. No, is this where I insert the short joke about Dave?
Starting point is 00:40:34 You said insert, so you're going down the wrong path. Oh, dang. Guys, trust me, he probably makes up for his height with his well-rounded humor. Exactly. Everybody just see yourselves out. I sound like you're on the right track. So here, let's get back on the game. From foraging to that.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Yeah. Right? So one of the things that I was pitching the idea when doing the show was goals for 2024. What are some of their either either prepping goals or is there something that you guys are all like you want to work on or maybe you want to research and start getting into it? What are some goals that you guys have, like trips planned, anything like that? Absolutely. And let's start with me and larry larry is a prepper uh he joins us when we do any of these exercises he'll be in gotham get out for sure we use his range his rifle range and we're gonna do some cold weather firing
Starting point is 00:41:46 when you guys come up. Looks like I may be making a drive. Larry, probably the first and last time I ever will have have NOGs and thermal lasers on shooting at targets
Starting point is 00:42:04 for the rest of my life, I think. So I appreciate that. That was a good time. We can do cold weather nods. No, I don't doubt it. I don't doubt it. I'm just saying thank you for that opportunity because that was cool. I guess predictions.
Starting point is 00:42:22 I'm of a mind that regardless of how 2024 turns out, it's going to be pretty hairy either way. So I do a lot of things, try to develop my own situational awareness around my house, my property, Dave's property, since we're neighbors, and look at lines of sight. and look at lines of sight where I would, if this happened, what would I do? I wear, just in the house when I come back from my day job, a gun belt and a gun and draw five or six times a night with different combos and setups just to kind of be familiar with it. I think it's good for me to handle a gun every day,
Starting point is 00:43:05 whether it's just not just a closet. I mean, I go up to the range or anything. It's just a matter of just safe handling drills. And so I do that. I've looked at things if really the shit hit the fan type of stuff, you know, just gas mask, mirror, things that do well with, um, tactical vision and the capability of vision through, um, looking through scopes.
Starting point is 00:43:32 So I'm set up there. I've also looked at, um, I did some work as a civilian tester for Agilite, who does a lot of the, um, kits supplying to the IDF. And they have some amazing, amazing products. So I do have, from best I could piece together, from research my own and their websites and videos, whatnot, a plate carrier comparable to what the IDF is using in the tunnels right now. I'm only going with level three plus plates.
Starting point is 00:44:13 And that's just a, that's more of an economics choice. And in an early old fart, I don't have to really run around like those guys do in the tunnels, but I do need to be, I like to be able to have the potential of withstanding multiple shots with steel. And that's, that's just a trade that's just a informed trade-off i guess hey so what are your goals for 2024 2024 goals prepper goals um more ammo oh yeah um more and more strategic tactical practice and I'm fortunate to have a setup in the back where I can go from 25 to 20 to 15 to 10 to right on up shooting paper and steel
Starting point is 00:44:51 with mine or 300 Black. But just basically refine my own home defense skills. More thought for that. I just got ammo price availability update right before we got on about big, big amounts of ammo going to Ukraine in the early parts of the year. Well, you're going to see a huge jump in cost after the first anyways. And then it's funny that you say that because i actually just got an email from palmetto palmetto state armory oh were they talking about which they well they were they have a huge deal they're even the workers will tell you right now is the cheapest you go they've even said
Starting point is 00:45:36 once it hits the first the prices are jumping they've tried to keep certain prices the same this is only because right because it's the shortage. But right now their best seller is AAC, which they bought out Remington. 556 ammo, 55 grain FMJ, 20 round box for $9.99. So right about 50 cents a round. Right, exactly 50 cents a round. And so that's honestly been the cheapest i've seen it even up until then it's been 15 a box for 20 or 14.99 so yeah so it looks like that's a good
Starting point is 00:46:15 price it is unfortunately i wish i had the i could afford to i'd go ahead and order some but unfortunately we're just at a point where it's like, I have to be happy with the amount I have. Cause it's not, it's not a feasible, you know, expenditure for us at the moment. Yeah. And on our end, I don't get by. Cause if something were really to happen, you have enough to get by and uh there'll be enough laying around so and then that's exactly what chris says is you know when when you need it there'll be enough laying around that you won't have to worry about it because unfortunately i mean we've had a whole conversation over statistics
Starting point is 00:46:55 is how many people are going to opt out i really wish they indeed did a show a couple weeks back, and we were talking about basic load, you know. And what I could carry when I was young and fit is different from what I could carry today. And, you know, I want to carry pistol ammunition and rifle ammunition sure so if you don't do the loadout and carry that i mean anything extra is just stuff you're going to leave behind so well it makes sense then why having semi-automatic like the shotgun having 10 round magazines because then at least if your magazines are already loaded you know how many exactly how many rounds you have and how many extra mags you have i mean it makes it a little bit easier to rationalize oh i already have the mags i can put the ammo in it there's a little less i have to worry about having loose yeah i
Starting point is 00:47:55 mean i want to talk oh sorry go ahead dave i well i just wanted to talk about my goals because we're gonna have to hop off here and watch. What is it? Dead Reckoning. Tom Cruise. I never saw the movie. Larry saw it in IMAX. He says it's great. So we have this kind of tradition where we get together, we watch a movie, and then we do all kinds of crazy stuff at midnight.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Oh, boy. We keep our clothes on. Don't lie to us. Do not lie to the faithful people here at PBS. That doesn't make it sound any better, Dave. Thanks. Thanks. I think it's a full moon tonight, too.
Starting point is 00:48:37 We'll have a little bit of moonshine. Pretty close if it isn't. Hey, so my goal this year is going to be fitness and i'm telling you i'm serious i've been giving it lip service i've been holding my weight you know uh at the homestead here but since i started teaching i think i put on 15 pounds and i i'm clueless how this happened because i'm eating less and i'm gaining more weight so uh i am really seriously gonna focus on this my my resting heart rate's up everything's up it's it's not good so this year yep fitness i'll make sure you get our first of the Well, it'll probably be second of the year Fitness routine for
Starting point is 00:49:28 Because we're going to be doing a lot of routine stuff this year, man That's going to be a big part of the listenership So I'll make sure you get it You can be on board with us and do all the crazy stuff we're doing, Dave I know you like that Well, I'll give it my best shot That's all you need right you know i i'm not bad for 67 but i want to be not bad for like 40 dude you know i take dave jones at 67 over most people my age
Starting point is 00:50:01 most people that i know you would work them until they were crying i don't i don't think we take anybody even at my age now it's it's ridiculous i'll be 35 in february yeah it's a different breed yeah well thank you i really appreciate that and we're gonna be signing off. Hey, everybody. Happy New Year. Happy New Year, David and Larry. Thanks for a great year, you two. Thanks. We'll see you at Prepper Camp. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:50:36 See you there. Now we're talking. All right. Who's next on goals? 2024 goals. I bet yours and mine are not the same i know what you're i have a feeling i know what yours is well considering we our show this morning was about goals and resolutions yeah surprise doesn't know what i'm gonna do this year what is your goal well i mean my goal is to uh take like a legitimate tactical class again like i was talking and going about it like i i am by no means a beginner when it comes to handling most small
Starting point is 00:51:13 arms but i haven't taken a professional class since i was still in uniform so you know i think i'm about at the point of, I need to get serious about looking for a firearms trainer in the area that I can build that relationship with and start taking some classes. And, you know, eventually I'd love to get into something like a night vision class, but, uh, or start doing some CQB classes. But I really just, I feel like I'm at the point where I need, I need to check up. I need somebody to look at me and say, you're screwed up. Fix yourself and kind of give me. I mean, I'm sure she could tell you that, but I'll tell you, too.
Starting point is 00:51:53 By the way, you're screwed up. You need to fix yourself. I mean, my wife does that all the time anyway. I'm talking about from a tactical standpoint, from a tactical standpoint. But yeah, I mean, honestly, like. I mean, I'd like to build my ammo stockpile up a little bit, but I was even talking to my dad about this the other day because he and I both reload our own ammo. And the problem I'm facing— It's gunpowder, right? It's powder. It's primers.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Like, the ammunition shortage that you were talking about, Jordan, is impacting the reloading market because most people that don't reload don't realize this. But like when Hornady or Federal or Winchester, when they need powder, they put out an order for thousands of pounds of powder. And the same people making their powder, making the powder i buy eight pounds at a time to reload a couple of cases with so they get priority because they're ordering it in bulk and the problem we're facing is a reloading community is the powder is because ammunition demand has gotten so high amongst civilians and powder demand has gotten so high amongst reloaders and now we have further constraints placed on that by all the the international conflicts we're in a situation where powder and primer availability is getting even worse than it was before so i'm in a situation
Starting point is 00:53:19 of i have enough powder to load a fair amount of stuff i mean mean, I've been kind of putting stuff back on the shelf. I was actually looking at the other day. I found powder I forgot about. So like I've got – I have powder to load stuff for a long time. But the problem I'm facing is what it's going to cost me in terms of time, money, and availability to replace that powder and replace those primers so i'm getting into the situation where it's like is it worth that money and my time because the way i reload is very labor intensive it's slow it makes great ammo but it takes time and is it worth those hours invested and the money to make 55 grain plinking ammo that I'm going to send into a berm?
Starting point is 00:54:09 Is it worth it to make cheap little plinking 9mm that I'm just going to send into a berm for a little bit of practice? Or are those components better spent loading extremely accurate ammunition, and then i buy factory ammo to train and then i only use the ammo i'm making which i think is better than factory in those situations where i can i can justify its use like that's the situation i'm wrestling with right now it's it's a function of i'm good now it's less of an issue with nine mil because I have a truck ton more 9mm components and powder. But looking at 5.56, I've got enough to load maybe about 4,000 rounds. And once that's all spent, Phil is out of the 5.56 game. Well, that's why I keep pushing you to join that ammo squared that i'm on um it's what's nice about it is basically i for the
Starting point is 00:55:08 last couple years i've been doing it's 25 bucks out of my check every single week and basically they just take that and they put it towards the they put it towards an allotment of 556 uh and i have i selected training ammo so right now it's actually they tell you every week they they send me an email saying hey this is how much it's going for. And right now, they're, because obviously they have to make something on it too, but it's $0.60 a round right now for their 5.56. But that $25, I have just shy of 2,000 rounds, that as soon as it hits 2,000 rounds, they're going to notify me
Starting point is 00:55:43 and they're going to say, hey, you want to keep stocking it or do you want it shipped? And I get it shipped at 2000 rounds. I get it shipped. And so I'll have, I mean, I don't know how much ammo I'll be sitting on after that. But I mean, yeah. And so I might switch it. Like I did nine millimeter for a while and then I was doing. But what's the weight on it?
Starting point is 00:56:11 What do you mean? Oh, 55 grain no no no no i mean what's the wait time in between you get that notification is it really worth that well it depends i mean it all depends on how much money i mean you can put you can put a hundred dollars a check if you want to but i just do 25 bucks a week and then how often are you notified is what i mean well yeah i mean i think it's 2 000 okay rounds so it's as soon as it gets to 2 000 rounds they notify me so it it was uh probably i think a year yeah i think it was like a year or so uh this time last year or so that they notified me last time when it was uh ready to go and stuff and and you can put yeah so you said no that's wired yeah it's called ammo squared.com and i yeah and i mean they have five five six nine millimeter 300 blackout uh seven six two
Starting point is 00:56:59 they have 308 they have i mean they have a ton like they have shotgun they have all kinds i mean they have their list of ammo is huge and they have four do you know if they had have your order physically or yes place your order when they get enough money to do it like when they get when you reach the 2000 or whatever no so what they do is they um they'll tell you like you can look on the website and you can see like how much of yours is allocated. So right now, if I went on right now, I could say, I think I'm like 1900 rounds. I could say,
Starting point is 00:57:30 ship it right now. And it will ship 1900 rounds. Um, yeah. So they, and so they'll, they'll tell you, they'll tell you like,
Starting point is 00:57:38 okay. Uh, cause when I, cause I shifted, I had 300 blackout. I had 1500 rounds of 50 or 300 blackout and I decided to shift that to 556 which so I did that and they basically sent me an email saying you know hey you're doing this give us some time to allocate this much ammo blah blah blah and then they sent
Starting point is 00:57:57 me an email saying hey your ammo is ready to go so they physically have it yeah they yeah they physically have it so um so yeah, I'm all for that website. And then, I don't know, I'll probably buy another thousand rounds of 12-gauge here soon because that stuff is always good to have. But anyway, Gillian. That's gone up quite a bit. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, steel.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Well, that's because of the lead shot. I mean, the government is closing down. Yeah, because we've had a hard time finding um buckshot and slugs like those are almost impossible to find all we can find is is we found only two two different brands of um slug and buckshot and we're 15 a box and how many yeah five rounds 15 we got lucky yeah on that one but it's still still though the other one was a much lesser less around a smaller amount in there and but everything else is duck shot and you know bird shot so it's it's just it's hard to find the slugs yeah and um i mean that's the thing is like i i actually i need to buy more um because the the buckshot that i use for in my self-defense shotgun um the only stuff i will
Starting point is 00:59:13 shoot is uh it's called federal flight control uh and so it's actually like law enforcement and stuff like that but it's uh nine nine pellet so they had eight pellet which was awesome because it's stat they the four or the four four pellets stack on the you know on each other but now they have nine and they stopped producing the eight so the nine pellet like they have this little random dude that when i did a shotgun class it just it it's a random flyer uh it's it's pretty crazy it doesn't stick with the other ones but um the Federal Flight Control is some of the best personal defense buckshot out there. And it won't blow through walls. And it won't over-penetrate, basically.
Starting point is 00:59:53 But yeah. But anyway, Gillian, Phil went ahead and did his first. He didn't let you go. Gentleman. Must not be a slow. Andrew cut you off. I'm so sorry, Gillian. It's totally fine, guys.
Starting point is 01:00:08 We know he's not a gentleman anyway. No, I'm with Dave on this one. I'm focused really on my fitness. I want to lose another 40 pounds. And, yeah, that's really what I want to do. But sing your praises. How much have you lost in the last six months? 41 pounds.
Starting point is 01:00:31 You look amazing, by the way. I can see it. And you look great. Like, feel best watch out. Don't bring it to prep camp this year. Everyone's got to watch out. Every time she walks through the house, I'm following her like a lovesick teenager.
Starting point is 01:00:47 You were like that before. That is true, too. He was like that before. I mean, I've lost the weight fitness to me. And I know y'all know my story, but just walking the two miles a day for like whatever, three to five days a week that we've been doing my ankle has gotten so much stronger and I don't at this point even just seven months into this whole new lifestyle change I don't see how amputation is on the table anymore I think if we were if I were to continue down this road, I think I'm going to keep my,
Starting point is 01:01:25 my foot, my leg longer than what the doctors are thinking. Um, and that's just from seven months of working out. So that's great. Yeah. I think, um, it's, it's also very telling of how lazy and, you know, real stupid I've been for not taking care of my health but just in seven months i think i've turned it around enough that i don't think amputations on the table well that's huge about it if yeah it's i mean but if you think about it though that 41 pounds of i mean 41 pounds is off your ankle uh not only that and this is what i i learned and why I didn't ever think about this, I don't know. It's 160 pounds of pressure gone. Because think about the square area of what your ankle is.
Starting point is 01:02:15 So, yeah, 40 pounds of weight taken off is 160 pounds of pressure taken off of your ankle. Wow. Take it off of your ankle. It's wow. And it's been more than I mean, it's it's but the downstream effects of you dropping the your back and the pain in your hip and the pain in your ankle from sleeping in a tent. And now, like, yeah, we've moved to CODS, which I think has helped a lot. But as the weight has come off, we're finding more and more that you're able to do so much more than we ever thought you'd be able to do. more and more that you're able to do so much more than we ever thought you'd be able to do. Yeah. And I don't know, Andrew, if you can remember from the camping trip in April, I could barely walk. Like everybody went hiking and Gillian stayed by the campsite because Gillian couldn't walk. And then it, I think too, on the prepping side and on, you know, getting,
Starting point is 01:03:20 we've always said we're a bug in family and i think now there is potential that if we have to leave if we have to bug out we don't have to worry so much about can gillian make it anymore like i think i don't know so that's my goal we're we're gonna start integrating some weight training and some she's making me do setup i actually told him was like, I want I want you to treat me like you're in basic training again. Like I want not so much that, but I want to be like I'm in base train, too. And I hate doing set ups badly. Well, well, OK, wait. So the this is how I'm doing it, Jordan.
Starting point is 01:04:02 He does a sit up or I'll do a sit up and I'm going bikini tight ass come on you can do this you know how you encourage him it's going to sound horrible oh I was doing that she did that
Starting point is 01:04:19 but then I stopped doing sit ups and reached oh no no no no but the funny thing is the first time she kept but then I stopped doing sit-ups and reached. Oh, no, no, no, no. No, but the funny thing is, the first time she kept saying abs, abs, abs, every time I do a sit-up, and I'm like, you're supposed to be motivating me, not yourself. Oh. Oh, you know. Well, keep it up.
Starting point is 01:04:41 You know, keep up the good work with that. I mean, that's a thing and the other thing too is you're rehabbing with you going on your walks you're basically doing self-rehab on your ankle and so you're strengthening that those bones you're strengthening the muscle you're strengthening all that up so that's awesome that's that's great keep it up oh definitely man i mean i absolutely commend you because after having a baby, I've actually since I'm breastfeeding, put on more weight. I'm actually one hundred and forty five pounds and I'm five foot two, which for me is a lot from, you know, one five one oh five to one fifteen at my max. So I get it. I commend you. But I can tell you this. You have way more motivation than me. I enjoy walking several miles.
Starting point is 01:05:26 But yeah. Yeah. But you're in a totally different place in your life now than I am. So and my motivation is I'm turning 40 in three weeks, Jordan. So. No, you're not. You're lying. No, you're not.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Very much turning 40 in three weeks. So that motivation. 39 for life. I made i made the uh party i made the party arrangements she's turning she's turning 40 in three weeks take me on it i was like dude tell me when and where i will drive out no no we've already got it set well fine fuck you too bruh you're all invited you can all come he's like no jordan what's your what's your goal for 2024 our goals i mean we can have more than one so my main thing i'm really looking at is actually food production i'm in such a small face space that I have a small raised bed outside, but I'm looking to see how much I can actually grow inside. So I have the stackable planter boxes that are three pots on each side and stack up to like six.
Starting point is 01:06:36 I actually think Garden Girl, she was the one who really recommended it. So I'm going to look into some grow lights. I really want to see what I can do as far as making my own food. But my other goal is practice runs. So me and my best friend, we've talked out on what we're going to do if shit hits the fan, practice running our way out, because the shortest way is not the quickest way for us. It's actually going to cause more harm because everybody's going to try to go out the same way. So we've actually looked at taking the longer route, which is against the traffic. I mean, you know, go in the opposite way, then traffic's going to flow. So we look at evacuation routes and we go against the evacuation
Starting point is 01:07:22 routes and around. It's going to put an extra hour on the trip. But if we can look at routes and our way out of an area, since we are in Myrtle Beach, we would like to look at an area where we're not going to be stuck in a large populated area with other people's just right on top of us. Because I live right. I mean, I live two hours from North Carolina. OK, traffic is terrible trying to get up there. I live not even 15 minutes from the main road to be able to leave to head west. But the problem is, is I'm not only next to a turn bridge, but two major areas that get so backed up on certain days, it can take an hour just to get to where you're trying to go in for a doctor's appointment. So our main thing is food on self-sustainability
Starting point is 01:08:12 as far as growing because we are in such a small, limited space. I really do want to push our capability of how much we can grow ourself and to our way, our action plan of how to get out of the area because of it being so highly populated. Yeah. I mean, and that's the thing is like, it's interesting because you're doing an area study. I mean, uh, Mike will be very proud of you for that. Um, but, uh, but yeah, it, it's pretty crazy, the traffic and, uh, and how, what can, uh, how long it takes. I mean, I, when I drive home, I working second shift where I do, when I go to work, like there's no traffic. When I come home, there's no traffic. It's pretty crazy. It's, it's nice. But, uh, well, when I go to work, it's a little bit busier. But if I wait, I found out if I wait about 15 to 20 minutes and I leave later, 15 to 20 minutes later, the amount of traffic, the difference in the traffic is crazy.
Starting point is 01:09:17 It might take me. Oh, yeah. And then I don't. It's crazy because every once in a while when I work first shift, when I drive through at like 4, 4.30, it's just – it's insane. So it's crazy just the traffic and the amount of people and everything. So yeah, it's – yeah, that's good that you're knowing that. And yeah, even though that one – the one route might add an hour. know that you're knowing that and yeah even though that one uh the one route might add an hour i'd rather add an hour or two versus being trapped in my vehicle around a ton of people
Starting point is 01:09:52 because we play you know in a bad situation you don't that's the worst case scenario yeah so we i have this terrible habit of playing oh man what if I have this terrible? So like, uh, we went through the Christmas lights, took two hours just to get in, to see the Christmas lights. And then you drive through it and you're at a halt. I was like, wow, wouldn't this be a bad time? If what if this happened? And he's like, you did this last year too. I'm like, well, it's a prime example of, you know, who wants to be stuck in this situation at any point in time? Like today, I had to go out because we needed laundry detergent and I needed milk for cornbread. And I can tell you, Trish, trying to get to the store, which was literally a block down.
Starting point is 01:10:40 Oh. She died. Uh-oh. She died. People are doing that on major holidays, and the main route for our major evacuations is literally the same route we take to go towards the doctor's office. It's not worth it. It's going to be so packed. It'd be better going against safety rules and going an hour down and out versus trying to go the quickest way out, which is going to leave us trapped bumper to bumper with God knows who and God knows what, because people in emergency situations are chaotic. And Phil can tell you that himself. I mean, he's seen it. People go crazy in such a small amount of time. And a lot of people cannot handle pressure or stress the same as
Starting point is 01:11:28 us or anybody else and even us under stress and pressure after a while can get to us i mean it's it's a lot to deal with yeah yeah i mean it is and that's the thing that's why where i'm at i i instead of going, uh, hitting the highway and going straight North or whatever, it's my plan is I, to go kind of South a little bit, uh, East, because if I go up and East, I'm going to, and that's, that's my plan is to go South and then West versus going straight West, even though that is the quickest way I'm going to have to go a lot of other ways. But we've also made plans of if me and my partner, if Chris and I get separated and he goes, I need you to write down specific directions. Now there's a reason why we both
Starting point is 01:12:12 believe, I believe we both need to have our own atlases, but it's also, so he knows exactly which route he's taken to get to the same place we need to get in case we get separated. So we, to get to the same place we need to get in case we get separated. So we, that's one thing that's great about having a partner who's on board is we can make our plans. We know who has what, you know, we make sure each of us has certain gears that we need. And if we get separated, we know where we can either converge or where the final meeting point is. So, I mean, that's another thing for us is making sure our preps are right there in sync with each other, because I mean, there's, there's a good possibility, you know, he's on the road traveling, working all day. I'm at home during the day. So it's like
Starting point is 01:12:56 making sure we're at the same understanding of, I've already told him if this, this, this, and this, or certain things happen, I'm out. I'm out. I'm going to load what I can in mine, and I'm out. And he's like, okay, say less. I will follow your lead, and I'm on the road too. Yeah, and that's the thing. I go up to my parents. In the summer, in the winter, I stay off the back roads pretty much
Starting point is 01:13:21 because they just don't follow them until very last. But in the summer, I'll take a different way all the time. Sorry. or I stay off the back roads pretty much because they just don't follow them until the very last. But in the summer, I'll take a different way all the time. Sorry. Sorry. He's very happy. I'm so sorry. He's having a party.
Starting point is 01:13:35 Yeah, he is. Well, it's New Year's Eve. But, yeah, no, I'll drive different ways. I'll take different back roads and see where they come out on different routes and all that stuff just so I have four or five different roads that I know I can take and I know where they come out. But no, that's a good plan. James, what are some goals for you? Yeah, I have a kid who is in a different location, and we have really hammered down a very similar plan to Jordan's, rally points and how to get him back to us,
Starting point is 01:14:12 because we're pretty centrally located, the wife, myself, and my other son. So that's a big part of this year's, at least this year's, physical movement kind of prep is figuring out what the best way to get to him is or to get him to us or to communicate to him because he's getting older. But we haven't pulled the trigger on cell phones, so he's at a disadvantage big time on that. We're playing around with these new – Chin and I are playing around with these new mesh network uh t echo lily go little text devices so that's going to be a big part of this year i'm actually really looking forward to seeing that i mean when he first started talking about that i'm like dude let me know how it works because willow and i have been following and we are absolutely on board 110
Starting point is 01:15:06 well the the you know i the key to this is it's if you can get your head wrapped around it and get the motivation to get it done what's really cool about it is it's only going to work if you have people and you know people who will do it with you close so. So it's like for the communications plan to get better, the people plan will get better because you need to build the mesh network yourself unless you do it each one of these little nodes is
Starting point is 01:15:35 it's like a repeater. You know what I mean? So as many people as have them the network grows larger. I guess you could probably power one. You could power some and stick them somewhere maybe through solar power without giving them to people, but I don't know how effective that would be. That's a big part of it.
Starting point is 01:15:58 I've got a bunch of people coming in the house right now, so I'm going to mute for a second. All right, I've got a bunch of people coming in the house right now, so I'm going to, I'm going to mute for a second. All right. I got a baby laughing. Andrew can tell us his now. Yeah. Let's see if I have any goals. What liar?
Starting point is 01:16:16 Uh, no, my, uh, so I mean, losing weight and stuff. That's I, to me,
Starting point is 01:16:21 I, I've changed the way I've eaten. I start, I've eat well food and stuff. I've increased like meat intake and stuff like that i to me i i've changed the way i've eaten i start i've eat well food and stuff i've increased like meat intake and stuff like that so i i i try not to set a goal for losing weight or changing the way i eat and try it's more of a lifestyle change um i feel like if you say it's a goal it's just something that you can give up on uh and so but i mean so that's in my head that's what i've changed uh but no one of the goals i i've been researching uh ham uh getting my next ham license so i'm just
Starting point is 01:16:54 the basic right now um i'm thinking i think it's general is next technician general is the next one up okay yeah so um so yeah i'm looking i've been researching the the test and i think i want to start studying for the next level up uh just because then i can do more high frequency stuff and uh it'd be nice to get into that and then actually be able to i don't know talk further away than what i do now so and i actually i need to get into ham uh i have my i have my license and i have radios uh my aunt uh doris uh she got her license and she her and i she doesn't work too she only like she's 20 minutes away from me where her work is and i keep forgetting and i need to message her when she works and we're gonna test out a repeater and stuff like that to where we can try to you're such a bad nephew i am i'm terrible she hates me
Starting point is 01:17:46 but yeah so there's that but um the next one is really it's it's the stuff with my truck um i taught i was talking to one of my good friends tonight uh he has a youtube channel uh called carswell's customs and he does a lot of mechanical stuff uh And I think I might research starting a YouTube channel, try to get out from the shadow ban that really stuck us. And my goal is to do installation stuff with the truck and then link it to a lot of outdoor camping, fishing, stuff like that, a lot of outdoor camping, fishing, stuff like that, a lot of outdoor stuff, but link it back to, try to link it back to the MOF page and his because he's going to help me with it.
Starting point is 01:18:32 And so we're going to try to promote his page more and then also try to link it back and try to get some more traction with the MOF page. I'm hoping that if I kind of did my own and own, um, and just no guns, stuff like that, just keep it strictly outdoors and stuff. Prepping related in a way. Um, I'm hoping that I can get out from under the shadow ban. And, uh, if that, if that happens, maybe we can draw more traffic to, um, to the MOF and raising values and PBN and stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:19:03 So I don't know. We'll see. So that him and I talked a lot about it tonight. So that is a, that's a big goal that I'm going to start. I'm going to try to work through throughout the next year. So, and then take over the world,
Starting point is 01:19:19 I guess. So what's that? I said, look at you with your goals that you don't have. so what's that I said look at you with your goals that you don't have and then my goal every year is not to be single by the next year but that's a reoccurring enjoy it
Starting point is 01:19:35 you can join him I'm sure he's got another room up there it's too damn expensive to get rid of a wife once you got one. Might as well just... You bought the ticket to the game. Gillian, remember I am from the South too. Accidents happen. And I've got friends with farms.
Starting point is 01:19:55 Yeah, but accidents don't happen until my life insurance is ready to pay off and it's not quite yet. I know how to spring roll. I roll. Save for a few more years so that's my new goal i just made a new goal to not kill your husband oh see married men out there this is the trick is you always want to be worth more alive than dead it's dangerous game for sure you'll be alive if you knew it was andrew right yeah but
Starting point is 01:20:28 then he'd have to deal with the snow and he's a freaking sissy oh he's a big old titty baby he's been very very brave today i don't know what his deal from the moment he woke up the look has been i don't know if y'all saw the podcast this morning, but if I could have shot daggers out of my eyes for the first 15 minutes of that podcast, that episode, Phil would have been nailed to the damn wall. You know what, Phil? I will make sure I send you a fur hat and scarf and everything, especially a hat. We don't need that pretty head of yours. Cold. Phil's getting barraged.
Starting point is 01:21:11 Because they know, James. They know. Really? You all have known me for how many years? And then you've got to know Gillian is going to be tough as hell, being that she is with Phil. So, I mean, tough as hell or dumb, I said phil so i mean tough as hell or dumb i said yes we all have a moment mine was 10 years it's okay i love him i'll keep him you can't have him yet andrew but
Starting point is 01:21:36 okay well gillian remember once you get rid of him you're mine oh that's right so i will feed you and take care of you. No worries. I'm just going to be passed around PBS. No, no, you're not. Not like that. But see, the other problem is. Sorry, Jordan. I have to go to Andrew's house this week.
Starting point is 01:21:56 It's his. The other problem is. Sorry, Andrew. I have to go back to Phil's house this week. After 18 years of tolerating me, she doesn't have the patience to train another one. So she's just going to ride this one out. That is so damn true. There you go, man.
Starting point is 01:22:10 But see, every day I'll tell you how pretty you are and we can go pick out clothes and everything. Okay, we don't pick out clothes together, but I tell her she's pretty all the time. He does tell me I'm pretty every day. That's important. And then depending on her level of caffeination and surliness, sometimes I get a positive response, and sometimes I just get an eye roll and a grunt. What are you after, Phil?
Starting point is 01:22:32 Take your life and your own. So, Gillian, you would get me and Willow in the whole trade. That is a very tempting trade. But then you lose me. But you're going to andrew so i mean technically she's gaining i don't want your daughter to miss me andrew's like because i'm like the kid at christ Christmas that goes from house to house. Yeah. So in order.
Starting point is 01:23:08 My mommy and daddy had a divorce, so I get to go here and there. So in order before Phil can come actually here and live, he has to come here and shovel snow. I got to see how well he does it. That could be the best. Oh, you've already shot yourself in the foot on that one, bro. I'll just live under a bridge down here i'll keep you jeez oh look give me give me the mosquitoes the size of freaking chickens give me the snakes give me the spiders give me the hurricanes the tornadoes the floods
Starting point is 01:23:38 but snow is too much i like i like how i like how all of that, but then, yeah, snow is too much. Seriously, it's not bad. It is. For real, though, I'm from the south. I'd rather deal with the snakes. Well, snakes I can deal with. I grew up catching them, even the venomous ones. Spiders, critters, you name it. I'm great. Tornadoes, don't give me the damn snow.
Starting point is 01:23:59 Or the ice storms. We get ice storms. No. When it drops below 50 here, it's like, no. Why do I have to go outside? That's so funny because, like, Michigan, I mean, we don't, like, no hurricanes. Like, the occasional tornado. I mean, snow and ice storms.
Starting point is 01:24:18 I'll take that. It's too painful for when it's that cold. But you'll hear all this shit. Your body is talking right now about snow. about how snow is that big of a deal. After you freeze to death? No. Your joints can't move to get back into the heater? So the best feeling is when it's like negative 30 with wind chill.
Starting point is 01:24:40 Stop it. You're insane. And then the temperature goes to zero. You know what? Take that hat off. You need to experience the cold for what it is You're insane. And then the temperature goes to zero. You know what? Take that hat off. You need to experience the cold for what it is. Fuck that. Negative 30. No, it's short weather.
Starting point is 01:24:54 I'll hang with you with snow, Andrew, but negative 30. People are wearing short sleeves when it's zero degrees. All the shit he wants about snow, but I have it on good authority that if he sees a spider he will develop a case of full body shivers no i won't i'm not that i'm not that definitely don't let him lie to you listeners he is this whole thing right because someone i still don't know who did that. I'm still tickled. I was sleeping.
Starting point is 01:25:26 Okay. I was sleeping. And that's the first thing I ever thought. Oh, yeah. He was sleeping. For the PBN family that are listening, this was me and Andrew. They may not know the story. This was me and Andrew and Uncle Randy, our first year at Prepper Camp.
Starting point is 01:25:41 So all three of us are sharing my eight-man tent. Andrew hates this story look at his face he's so tired of people telling he's actually turning pink right here look at that okay so i wake up first i'm gonna go get a shower handling spiders just so you guys like will think i'm okay with spiders you need to put a tarantula terrarium back there in your back set up but look i'll help you i stood up in the tent and between the mesh and the rain fly there was like a daddy long legs about that big now i'm half asleep because i just woke up and just stood up and just and i stand up and the mesh is like
Starting point is 01:26:17 right here in front of my face and i gotta jerk my head back i'm like damn that's a big spider not even real not even thinking about the fact that Andrew has arachnophobia. He wakes up out of a dead sleep. He wakes up out of a dead sleep, postures up on his elbows, and blurts out, I'll burn this fucking tent to the ground. I started laughing so hard I had to drop down to a knee because I could not physically stand. I was laughing so hard. You know, Andrew, just because— Uncle Randy woke up to hear all this, and Uncle Randy was laughing so hard, I thought we were going to have to get him medical attention.
Starting point is 01:26:55 So you say you don't. Andrew starts laughing because of the two of us laughing like lunatics. Well, yeah, but that's the thing. You say you don't have a problem with spiders, then let me bring you some of our big orb weavers. We've got the big yellow bananas. China? Didn't those come over from China? No, these are native.
Starting point is 01:27:14 Now, there are some that have come over, but I'm talking about the native orb weavers, the giant garden spiders, but we have them. They're literally, this one, its legs spanned. It was as big as a fucking saucer. No, that's cool. I'll was as big as a fucking saucer no that's cool i'll stare i'll stare at it all day no no i'll bring it i'll bring it to prepper camp yeah bring it and then y'all will watch them run oh you're flying throwers see your bitch i don't know what
Starting point is 01:27:38 they want you to do andrew i think they want you to like put them in your mouth i don't know yeah we want you to hold it i'm okay kiss it lick it i don't know what they want i think i think i sent him that short that short little little jiff or movie one time of the girl who has a spider in her mouth oh yeah it was a tarantula she just what you don't like that you don't you do. I don't like bugs in my mouth. The whole thought of eating bugs is gross. And Gillian's like, I can eat bugs because she's a badass.
Starting point is 01:28:10 Sorry, I'm not. Gillian has fed me bugs. I make some really, really good fried dragonflies, I'm just saying. I might try that. I love dragonflies, though, so it would break my heart. But my brother-in-law my brother-in-law got bacon flavored crickets for christmas when um my father-in-law mother-in-law were here uh we convinced him not to buy the salt and vinegar and bought my brother-in-law
Starting point is 01:28:37 the baking flavored but i just i can't do it just the whole thought of bugs because for me it's like parasites i immediately think of parasites. Like the horsehair fly. What are you eating? What do you think you're getting with fish? Oh, I know. Trust me, I know. I actually have stepped away from oysters.
Starting point is 01:28:57 Because I found out some stuff about them. That I'm just like. Oh, I can tell you some stuff. Oh, no. Trust me, I know. but that's like when i eat lingua i love taco de lingua i love it and i eat it all the time and i eat tripe and i eat fa and i eat all those organs that are included in all this stuff and like menudo if i don't look at it if i don't think about it it's delicious that's like chorizo don't read at it, if I don't think about it, it's delicious. That's like chorizo. Don't read the ingredients.
Starting point is 01:29:25 Just eat it. It's good. Yeah. No, I used to work retail and I worked retail for I don't know if you guys have heard of Spencer Gifts. Oh, yeah. Yeah. When I was in college, I worked. That was my college job. And I sold some, I guess, like some toys to somebody um off a bet that i would
Starting point is 01:29:48 eat the pack of crickets and i it was a competition and i ate the pack of crickets and then they bought the toys and i won the competition not bad crickets in my life world order in action early i just you know what i would eat the dragonfly. You bring dragonflies to Prepper Camp, I would eat that. I won't eat crickets. Only because I know what family they're in. I just...
Starting point is 01:30:13 I can't... I can't... I can't do it. I can't do it. They're in the Bill Gates family. I got really tired of crickets. I got really tired of crickets. We cooked with a lot of crickets.
Starting point is 01:30:24 I'll bring all kinds of stuff I will I'm going to eat mealworms I will try a dragonfly you'll see me gagging in the process I will try one but I'm not eating any other bugs what is it chicken crackling oh I could bring chicken crackling
Starting point is 01:30:41 chicken crackling that sounds delicious what is that I'll eat that all day Oh, I could bring chicken crackling. Chicken crackling. That sounds delicious. It's exactly what it sounds like. What is that? I'll eat that all day. Is it like gizzards? I don't eat gizzards. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:30:50 It's like pig skins. Yeah, it's chicken skin. All right, so it's chicken grinds instead of pork grinds. It's the outside of fried chicken. Oh, well, that's fine. I'll eat chicken skin, but I don't do gizzards. I don't do gizzards. No. And what's the other one people like to eat a lot of?
Starting point is 01:31:13 Chicken livers fried? I don't care for livers, but chicken gizzards and—no, there's something else. It's another innard. Scrapple? All this talk about food is making me hungry. Yeah, we got to eat. I need to go to bed. I'm definitely going to bust some food out once we hop off. Well, when I get off here, I'm going to start making ribs, making some baby back ribs and slowly cooking them back.
Starting point is 01:31:36 How did we get here? I'm going to take a bowl of cereal, Jordan. I love it. It's the best. I like to cook. Jordan. I love it. It's the best. I like to cook. I mean, today I spent the time I made steaks and baked potato. Yes. And then I did sausage and cheese. And then I like to cook. I love to I love to eat. I love to talk about food, too, which is the problem right now. I do. I do like to talk about food.
Starting point is 01:32:08 Speaking of which, southern tradition of New Year's meals. I tried to call you Gillian because Chris apparently up north. No, I understand. Chris up north never heard of the New Year's traditions of meals and why. So back home growing up, it'd be pickled pig's feet but we replaced that with any kind of pork because my mother didn't like pickled pig's feet so she never made us eat it but you know pork cornbread greens and something gold so it's usually corn bread corn or macaroni and cheese pork so-eyed peas, pork.
Starting point is 01:32:46 So greens was supposed to be collard greens, but because no one ate collard greens in our house growing up, my mother always did spinach. We always did cabbage. Salad crash. See, I'm on a roll here. Fried things. I don't like fried food. I don't eat a lot of fried food at all.
Starting point is 01:33:02 Well, you're missing out. That's a beautiful hog nose that just came into the chat. Oh, I love him. Anyway, sorry. I miss having my pet snakes. I know. We've got to go to...
Starting point is 01:33:14 We've left Piper by herself to enjoy New Year's alone. You know, that's no fun. I've got a household full of 12-year-old boys that just popped in, so I can't believe it's been this quiet.
Starting point is 01:33:25 Chris has to go to work first thing in the morning, so I do have to take over with little man again. Well, again, Andrew, thanks, man. Thanks for making this happen, dude. I would have been half in the bag and probably asleep already, to be honest with you, if you didn't bring this thing up. We're in the bag. I'm not asleep. Let's go with that. All right.
Starting point is 01:33:46 Well, Happy New Year, everybody. Yeah, Happy New Year, BBN family. We'll see you all in 2024. See you next year, Andrew. Big year, big goals. All right, everybody. Talk to you soon. Bye, y'all.
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