The Prepper Broadcasting Network - PBN Special Report: Secret Service Fail or What? w. Dave Jones

Episode Date: May 5, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:59 I go fund me. We are live, PBM family. Welcome in. Dave Jonesy, NBC guys here with me tonight. We're a little late on this thing, but we're going to be great on this thing.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Okay? I can tell you that much. I can tell you that much. We haven't talked about it in deep detail. And as much as we'll talk about sort of the critique of how things could have went, what I really'd like to get from tonight is what you could learn from tonight. right for your own personal security personal preparedness home defense whatever the hell
Starting point is 00:01:50 Dave Jones thanks for joining us tonight my man how are you I am good how are you doing intrepid commander always good man no hey well thanks for playing last week dude it was last far yeah you're the MVP in the week by far well thanks and look you you uh you inspired the the root this month and it turns out it's a really awesome it's a really good one everyone needs to try it out okay just you don't have to go the whole month just do a few days a couple days a week whatever and guarantee you're going to be like oh i never thought that would turn out that way yeah you're going to feel great after you do those first and you get them under your belt i mean lessons learned
Starting point is 00:02:38 confidence building yeah today was a one mile jog with the pistol in Holster. Oh. Because if you've never done that, did I just change something? Did I do something? No, you're good. Everything's fine on our hand.
Starting point is 00:02:53 I don't think you can change any of like this, the layout or anything. Because I just tap something on my thing here. How do I get this to go away? MSM. Oh. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't want them.
Starting point is 00:03:09 So, yeah. So tonight we're going to talk. We're going to take a look at the video. I've got a little bit of a breakdown of sort of the how things took place before and during the attack. We're talking about the Cole Allen attempted whatever the hell he attempted, shooting of the Secret Service agent and somehow made it out of there basically unscathed, which is amazing when I watched a video. I don't even know how it's possible. I'm starting to think the Secret Service agents' guns have blanks in them based off of this thing. I don't know what could have happened, but it's really crazy to watch.
Starting point is 00:03:48 So we'll watch some of the video. We'll go over sort of the play by play. And then, yeah, I can't wait to hear what Dave Jones has to say. Yeah. Well, I mean, you talked about it a little bit on air already. I heard you. Yeah. On previous show.
Starting point is 00:04:03 I have over a thousand hours of police academy training. I have a bachelor's degree in criminal justice and a master's degree in security. in security management. And for the years that I was over in the Middle East, we looked at hotels, five-star hotels, that Tommy Franks, you know, the general in charge of Centcom would be staying in. So we did vulnerability assessments.
Starting point is 00:04:33 And wow, wow, I got to tell you, wow. It is a wow. There's no doubt about it. Maybe we should set the stage a little bit for everybody. to get their head back into it because it has been what? What's it been a week? Yeah. April.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Oh, no, it's been. It's been April 25th. It was a week on Saturday, I think. Yeah, that's right. You're right. Yeah. So on April the 6th, 2026, Cole Allen reserved the room at the Washington Hilton for three nights,
Starting point is 00:05:06 the 24th through the 26th, which is kind of funny when you think about it. I wonder what he was thinking about when he reserved the night of the 20th. That means he thought that perhaps I'll make it back to my room, right? Because the incident happened on the 25th. So if he booked the 26th, then he was thinking, I may make it back and just enjoy a good night's sleep. I don't know. That's a weird one.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Well, you got to be there over the night. So he's not checking out until the next morning. Oh, because you'd have to check out. Yeah, that's right. Early. Good point. Good point. April 24th, 2026.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Friday, Allen travels by train from near Los Angeles to Chicago, then Chicago to D.C. What a, what a hike. He arrives around 1 p.m. checks into the Hilton. He had purchased the weapons used earlier, a 12-gauge pump, Mossburg, August, in August 2025, a 38, semi-a-a-oldo, 1911, we're from Rock Island Armory in October, 2023. And he also had a bunch of knives. I don't know what he was playing on doing with those, but I got V for Vendetta vibes when I saw the knives on them. I'm going to start hurling knives of people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Yeah. Yeah, how that goes. We'll look at this video now. This is earlier April 25th. Alan is seen in the hotel. You know what? Let's just play it. We'll play it while I read.
Starting point is 00:06:37 So it's not too boring. And feel free to chime in, Dave. You know, whatever you see. This is FBI field audio program. Hmm. Okay. That's the setup. Allen is seen on hotel surveillance video leaving his room dressed in black carrying the shotgun.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Oh, no, that's not this video. Concealed under a long black coat, handgun, and knives in a black bag. He uses an interior stairwell to avoid monitor. I don't know if I have this part. to avoid monitored areas, exits. Now, he did a pretty good job. Interior stairwell to avoid monitored areas and exits near foyer, red carpet area, leading to the ballroom where the black tight dinner is underway with Trump. First Lady Melania.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Yeah. Shortly before 8.40 p.m. Yeah, I don't know what he did in the gym. I guess this is where he was just casing things. Yeah, he's looking around and, uh, He ends up talking to this attendant there. This lady? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:54 And he's like, what are you doing later? I need a date. How fast can you run? Okay, for some reason they increased playback speed here. He's walking around. So at 8.40 p.m. he sends a pre-scheduled email to his family and employer. where he apologizes profusely for what's about to happen. Signs off as cold,
Starting point is 00:08:26 cold force friendly federal assassin Alan. Interesting. All right, let's see. So here is after case and the place. I wonder if we got the video of him with the trench coat on and everything. Three minutes pass. Here he comes again. So this is,
Starting point is 00:08:54 Oh, this is the night before. This is the 24th. What's that? 9 o'clock? Yeah. 9.6. He's looking at that door. I guess that's the door.
Starting point is 00:09:09 That exit, that double door exit right there might be the door. You'll see it here in a second. This part of the video, I don't know. Instagram. What is up? Nothing going on over there. Really? Yeah, it's weird.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Oh, here he is. Here he is with the guns. That's the coat and the guns and the everything. So he probably has the Mossberg slung over his shoulder. Shoulder, I guess, yeah. Like this up under his armpit. So you can't see it sticking down. But it was a shockwave, right?
Starting point is 00:09:50 No, it was a shockwave. Oh, is that what it was? Okay. Yeah. No need. See, here's those double doors that he'd been walking. by. And here's the bomb sniffing dog.
Starting point is 00:10:02 This is the guy who I think encounters him, it seems like. It seems like he gets to yap and that somebody at those doors. Pause it for a second. And he's telling them. Okay. So they're tearing down this magnetometer. This is the check. Yeah, right there on the right.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Yeah. So no one else is getting in. And that big box, that thing folds up and goes in that big box. But what Future Dan was talking about is having obstacles for people to walk around. So they can't just sprint through your checkpoint. You know, unless you're OJ Simpson that can leap over tables and linebackers and all that kind of stuff. You want them to not be able to do that.
Starting point is 00:10:54 And you want to complicate the flow. And they didn't do any of that. They didn't do any of that. If it wasn't for that box right there that he had to go around, he would have had a straight shot. Oh, that's a great point. Yeah, this is an unintended obstacle. Yeah. And they had no other obstacles.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Usually you put like planners or tables or something like that out there to make the person go like this as they're going through. through to get screened. Well, it's weird that you have all the people on the walls. You got the three guys on the walls. I wish I could zoom in on those ladies because they look like TSA screening. They even have the same type of uniform that TSA has. I think they were running those metal detectors probably. That's why they're off to the side.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Yep. And that's probably why they're not armed. I don't remember if they are or aren't. When the action kicks off, people start pulling guns quick. Yeah, I don't think they do. They run away. They like. That's right.
Starting point is 00:12:07 You're right. Yeah, those two guys step into the breach there. Yeah. Okay. Let's play. Let's play forward. Allen approached security checkbun and terrorist level of the hotel. Magnetometer area leading to the ball where he runs.
Starting point is 00:12:25 through the magnetometer while holding a long gun he reportedly discards the coat a loud gunshot his hurt down fires a to gogram of a strike as he considering him and I'm wearing ballistic vests once in chibbon we know that one. All right so I was wrong he doesn't shoot one of these guys right here. Oh, here he
Starting point is 00:12:41 comes. We'll get to see it in slow-mo so don't worry. See I thought he shot right there but he didn't. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, nine, nine drawn weapons maybe more
Starting point is 00:13:04 because the guy's behind all right now we'll do oh yeah there's guys over there on the terrace yeah now let's see what the ladies do and there's two guys that are taking the magnetometer apart
Starting point is 00:13:18 I thought they get right in there here he comes and the dog guy yeah go ahead the dog guy backs off and that's when he comes out now look at this dude He's drawn.
Starting point is 00:13:32 They're both drawn on each other here. Yeah. And he's not the only one that shoots this dude or at this dude. I don't know how he missed him. Well, he surely could have hit someone in the background there for sure. Oh, maybe that's what he was worried about. Look, he shot there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:55 You could see the gun light up. Yeah, there's the muzzle, muzzle flash. I think you're right. I think here, I think here he was thinking about his target and what's beyond it. he's thinking i'm going to shoot one of these dudes putting the thing away or i'm going to shoot one of these girls he disregards all of that because that that's muzzle flash there oh that is right there that is around going off yeah david jones how you miss him how's that work i don't know this doesn't seem right to me especially if you're aiming center mass of course the guy was skinny
Starting point is 00:14:32 but holy cow you're what you could have spit on him you know what else is really weird right now look at my man at the magnominer yes the one who's closest to the guy who just ran by with a gun yeah why is he not turned his head yeah especially if there's a shot being fired he just saw a dude unless he i got to go back that's crazy he must to put his, maybe put his head down. It doesn't look like you moved. All right. He's got his head down.
Starting point is 00:15:10 He must have the earbuds in. This guy comes running. He doesn't even see him. Earbuds is a no, no. You, now, I think the circles mean shots fired. I think you're right. Yeah. So that one guy shot.
Starting point is 00:15:26 He just is looking up now. Yeah. And then this guy jumps out of the way. He falls over. Oh, so one of them guys did take off. Hold on. Let's go back. I got to see this metal detector situation here.
Starting point is 00:15:48 This whole thing is crazy. Well, the one- Maybe it happened that fast. One lady falls. She trips. All of them try to scurry out of there. I'm just interested in this guy, Ben, over here. It's really weird.
Starting point is 00:16:06 He doesn't see him. Clearly, he doesn't see him. No, he's looking down. You hear this, though. There's no way you don't hear this action. I am. Boom. His head pops up a little bit.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Boom. That's two shots. And the guy there is watching. Yeah, the guy by the... People on the wall are clearly like they know it's going down. Yeah, they're cringing down. They're like, ah, like that. This guy in front of the box is grabbing his nuts right now.
Starting point is 00:16:34 I don't know what he's doing. Yeah. He looks like his holster hand is on the cabinet still. It is. It is. he's bent over like you got kicked in the balls and he goes for the gun here this dude's still getting this guy's shooting
Starting point is 00:16:52 is still trying to shoot people too by the way yeah I'm so look that's like hunting training you take when you're a teenager like you don't want to shoot the guy past the guy and he's aimed at everybody working here I mean I guess you have you know you have limited
Starting point is 00:17:11 well you have stationary posts and then you have roving posts. Okay. So there should have been someone right out that door. There should have been someone in that for a year where he ran in from stationed to guard that whole entrance. I think these dudes were on break out here past these double doors or something. You're never in break. I mean, if you're on break, you're somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:17:48 You're in the security operation center. You're not out there on the floor because if you're on the floor, you have to be paying attention to everything. See, my man in the back is on now. So, yeah, he must have just been really fast and surprised him because he's reaching for his gun already. the metal detector guy and turn around this dude falls over almost see the other guy goes with the girls
Starting point is 00:18:25 the other metal detector worker goes with the girls oh no he doesn't he comes around like flanks a little bit and here come the guns yeah then three guys come out of the other forer there why weren't one of those guys over there over there. That's a stairwell right there. The Virginia lottery. Oh, boy. Went too far. We went too far and we got an ad. So there's the security operations center that has all these cameras and it communicates with uniformed security for the hotel and plain closed security for the hotel.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Okay. So they should have both. I mean, if this. This is a five-star hotel. They should have all kinds of amenities. Yeah. And that guy who's watching all these monitors, there should be a secret service guy standing right there with him, telling him pull this guy, pull that up, pull that up, do this. You know, he don't operate.
Starting point is 00:19:35 The secret service guy can't come in and operate this guy's camera that he knows how to operate. 8 for forever, you know, does it 40 hours a week every week. Right, yeah. He can say, show me this. Zoom in on that. Show me this stairwell. The Secret Service puts their own guy in there to be able to call to the Secret Service guys without having to go through anybody else.
Starting point is 00:20:05 And, and D.C. police. D.C. police should have. You know, it goes back to Butler, man. I mean, you think after a lashing like that, right? There's no way anything could be lax. After Butler. But then again, they had the people. They had the numbers, but I guess the big flaw, like you said, was nothing blocking.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Right. And their thing was, it was outside of our perimeter. You know what? I don't care if it's outside of your perimeter. You know what, the perimeter of this was terrible. I mean, in the Middle East, we looked mainly at bombs and bombing because they were going to pull up and detonate a bomb. If they would have did it here, do you know who would have been in charge of our country? A 92-year-old senator who is the Senate pro tem, and I can't remember his name offhand, he was the.
Starting point is 00:21:07 he was the designated guy. He's 92. He can't even stay up this late. That's why they made him. And then because the president came, laity, dotty, everybody came. They said it was the most attended.
Starting point is 00:21:26 They've had in years. Of course. Yeah. Because the president said he was coming. And boy, they wanted to see what he was going to say, you know, firsthand.
Starting point is 00:21:37 And wow. This failed on so many levels. You know, a truck would be really cool. What's the name of the hotel? The Washington Hilton. The Washington. The Washington.
Starting point is 00:21:53 I'd love to get a map of the place. It's huge. It's been there since 1965. And it's, it's big. It's massive. You can go to their website. got it pulled up here yeah and it has a massive ballroom they had 2,500 people in there.
Starting point is 00:22:15 I'm trying to get like a kind of like a facilities map. Washington Hilton Hotel floor this might do it. Oh yeah, it's a four star. How about that? Oh it is. Yeah. Jeez. That's terrible. well, even a four-star who's going to host the president. It's going to have some stuff. We went into this hotel in Kazakhstan. And, you know, it was to the point of where we were playing,
Starting point is 00:22:58 Stump the dummy. We were trying to find out what this guy, you know, if we could find anything on this guy. And Hillary Clinton had stayed there. this is when she was first lady, not even, you know, not even in there. Yeah. And we said, do you have a nurse on staff?
Starting point is 00:23:21 We have five nurses. Oh, okay. Do you have a doctor? We have two doctors. They are on call and one lives right over there. And the guy pointed to where the doctor lives. And then we said, and they're not required to have this. But we said, do you have a bomb sniffing dog or access storm?
Starting point is 00:23:40 Yes, we have two of them on premises. We're like, holy cow, this hotel has everything. We were used to this. Yeah, they had a private elevator. The top floor was the suite that, you know, the shakes, the Saudi shakes and all that ate in. And they had a private elevator. Security had their own security operation. center in that suite.
Starting point is 00:24:12 So they had cameras that were in the suite that you could monitor that whole and the upper, the top floor was the suite. It was the penthouse suite. Yeah. And the elevator, the private elevator,
Starting point is 00:24:30 didn't stop on any other floor. It only went to the penthouse and to the garage in the basement. Yeah. And then when we said, well, how do you control the garage? They said when anybody stays in that suite, they don't allow anybody to park in the garage in the basement. But then, yeah. Well, that makes sense. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:00 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. This thing. Ah, look at that. So from what I can see, the checkpoint is. in and to the right hallway, in through the foyer where the elevators are.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Correct me if I'm wrong. In into the right. But I also have a picture of that that we can look at too real quick to figure out exactly where that checkpoint is. I wanted the takeaways, PBM family, is like your home and your neighborhood, what we're doing right now, if you don't do this stuff,
Starting point is 00:25:41 there's no way you can secure anything. Yeah. Like if you don't have an overhead idea of your property at the very least, then there's no way you know where to put anybody. You're not going to be like, oh, all of a sudden we got problems. I know exactly where I need to put people. Yeah. So it's important, you know, to be crazy like us.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Screening and scanning, you know, just cars pulling up to drop people off. And they should have been doing all of that because, gosh, I think about, Timothy McVeigh bomb, man, that would have been just devastating. Wow, yeah, the bomb. Yeah. So you could see that image. Yeah. And then you look at this image and you kind of could see what we're looking at.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Yeah. So he got in and then ran around the corner because he was going around the corner to try and go down those stairwells because the ballroom is actually on yeah the next level down yeah so he was and he made it to the top of those stairs he almost made it to the stairs yeah there you go i would like to see footage of the apprehension that's what i'd like to see how did they take him down how did he get his shirt off that's what i'm trying to figure out yeah yeah yeah yeah Well, they probably ripped it off of him. It's always strange.
Starting point is 00:27:20 He had all those knives and crap on him. They just... Oh, you're right. You're right. Yeah, they kept digging and finding more weapons. They were like, just stripped this guy. Yeah. God only knows what he's got on him.
Starting point is 00:27:32 But the dog didn't smell him, so I guess they were... felt pretty comfortable about that. Well, the dog, you know, the dog kind of alerted on him, but the, the handler, kind of pulled him back. He was like... Yeah, you're right. I think he even walks through.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Let me share it again. I think he even walks through, which is crazy. Which one is this? Am I sharing? Man, the first thing I would have done was let that dog loose. The dog's only going to go after... The dog's only going to go after the one guy that's running. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:28:13 I wonder what happened with him. He must have took off. He must have. And you can't run with a German Shepherd attached to your ass. That ain't happened. It's physically impossible. You definitely ain't making any shots. I could tell you that much.
Starting point is 00:28:27 That's about the only thing that's going to make your aim worse than these guys. Yeah. And apparently, he wore the trench coat down just to get the shotgun there. So is this him up there? You're going to see a guy come walking by. It looks like him. That's him. Right?
Starting point is 00:28:47 He's already in the. room. It looks like him. Let's see. Because he leaves. Watch, ready. Boom. He goes in. Okay. He must have stashed the shotgun in that forier. The dog. The dog alerts on him. The dog guy starts
Starting point is 00:29:01 looks like he's talking to him. I think they talked here. And I think he probably asked him. What the hell are you doing? Yeah. And then as soon as he walks away, he turns. And that's when the guy
Starting point is 00:29:18 takes off. And he's hitting now. He's flying shotgun. You're right because that shotgun, I don't know, that thing looks pretty long. Oh, he took his trench coat off too. He's in his suit now. Right. He went in there to drop the coat off, which is another weird thing, right? Unless some guy in a trench coat, walk into a room, drop the coat off. Anybody in that, they have a trench coat on, man, that is, ding, ding, ding ding ding stop stop and frisk you know
Starting point is 00:29:53 this is the one that drives me nuts right here yeah where's the bullet go nobody behind them get shot I don't see a hole in the wall I don't see dust in the wall well it would probably penetrate unless that's concrete
Starting point is 00:30:15 maybe yeah maybe that's it what a weird situation to be in yeah I really love the concept of the pillars and vases and couches and all that shit in the way here. Yeah. Because I think that's really a missed opportunity. Here he comes 300% slower.
Starting point is 00:30:51 These people, they just start looking. That guy draws. He draws because he sees the shotgun. Yeah. He drew. The gun. But he doesn't fire until he gets shot. That is so wild.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. How are they not shooting right now? That's amazing to me. He must have thrown the shotgun and dived on the floor. Oh, something came flying back. Yeah, I saw that. I saw that. What was that?
Starting point is 00:31:28 I did hear that he fell. He tripped or something. And that's how they got him. See, that's what I want to see. I want to see that. Oh, they're already, yeah, they got him down quick because what's flying back is the knives. What? Looks like it.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Yeah. Watch on the ground. There's two of them that come flying back. So they probably got him down and are ripping his coat off and throwing knives back here. Watch at the middle by the feet. One, two. Two, yep. Two knives come.
Starting point is 00:32:02 So I picture a guy on him pulling those, pulling those off. It's mental, too. And that's actually what you chew and get a boner. If that video didn't do it for you. Yeah, it's wild, man. But there's a lot to pick apart there. Yeah. There's a lot to pick apart there because the guy, you know, when they apprehended him,
Starting point is 00:32:26 he was shocked that he was still alive. He really, this was a one-way trip. I'd be interested to know if he booked return transportation. No, that's a good question, yeah. You know, around trip, digging. Elf support says he was dressed up like the main character from Hitman, too. Oh, I guess. So, yeah, like I said, in terms of how things like this can be applied,
Starting point is 00:32:56 one of the things that I think we got to wrap our head around, put in like a situational awareness situation, is the speed. Everybody remarked on the speed. and you know that's real life that's real life you know what I mean he's the adrenaline was pumping you know this was his one-way mission to die yeah and he's in he's in the padded cell now he's in the suicide watch because they don't want anything happening to him I think your comments about the types of targets they're shooting Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:37 I think that had a lot to do with that. You know, it was clear that they're not shooting stuff that moves. There's no way. Do they have, I mean, there are ranges that do that, that have targets that move. You know, just there aren't, the Secret Service got to have it, right? Surely. Surely they would. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:57 When I was at the federal law enforcement training center, every other day, half the class, we separate half class. And in the afternoon, right after lunch, you either changed out to do PT. And PT was physical fitness and apprehension techniques. I mean, it was cuffing. It was martial arts. It was takedowns. That would happen there pretty quick. Now that I see those knives come flying back, it looks like they were well trained on that.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Yeah, but they said the guy tripped. They said that he tripped. and was on the ground and that's when they jumped on him so i'm i'm wondering you know how far would the guy got if he would have stayed on his feet maybe they shot him yeah maybe they'd have gunned him down if they could have somebody in that pack had to know how to shoot that guy that was yeah yeah yeah didn't know how to shoot that's for sure yeah or he didn't have a real gun it's got to be one of the two he had a blank firing weapon or something but he shot four shots off.
Starting point is 00:35:07 I mean, you could see them. Yeah. Like I said, you could see the muzzle flash. Boom, boom, boom. But he was the guy that was hit. He was, it was hit. It didn't even look like it bothered him.
Starting point is 00:35:18 I wonder what he shot him with. There's no way he shot the guy with buckshot. He just stood there and kept shooting. I don't know. That's a lot of kinetic energy close range, dude. Yeah. Right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:30 He must have had some crap rounds. Yeah, he had something. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. I don't even see the guy like a little bit. No. Well, and then the other half of the class would go to the range. And we shot, we had 357s, and we shot different ranges, different, I mean, all different types of things, timed, darkness, low light. and the only thing was our targets did not move so it was obstacles and the Secret Service did way more than we did oh way more hunter hunter in chat our man Hunter SF 770 said
Starting point is 00:36:24 semi-onitions air soft heck take the squad paintballing once in a while Yeah. In terms of like being able to learn how to hit moving targets, you know. Yeah. Because that is a bit, yeah. Yeah. And we were trained never one shot. When you drew in fire, it was bang, bang, bang.
Starting point is 00:36:50 They didn't want you to go bang. And look, did you do anything? Right. You know. Yeah. So, so here's the breakdown. He runs through the magnetometer. Why don't they call it a...
Starting point is 00:37:09 While holding the long gun, shotgun. He reportedly discards the concealing coat. A loud gunshot is heard. Allen fires the 12 gauge, striking the U.S. Secret Service officer wearing a ballistic vest once in the chest with buckshot. I think the best thing we could do right now, Dave, for the PBN audience is find out what kind of ballistic vest that dude was wearing. that investment yeah he took a point blank shot with you remember are you have to go back through
Starting point is 00:37:41 your videos and stuff because we did shoot a vest here yeah we shot the uh armor for the people it's called yeah they got their patch right over here and yeah that it did it did a very good job i mean it did great but i'm there's still kinetic energy of the sure you know what i mean that's what's crazy about it yeah because when we we put the uh vest on the water jug and it didn't penetrate the vest but it broke the water jug yeah exactly so think about your sternum you're right you know yeah my man was return and fire it says the secret service officer draws his weapon and fires multiple times five to eight during the chaos. I don't know how they don't know.
Starting point is 00:38:28 I guess they just haven't reported it. Alan falls to the ground. There you go. He suffers only minor injuries, he's not struck by gunfire. Some accounts describe him being tackled, subdued by officers. He's immediately arrested on the scene
Starting point is 00:38:42 while still in possession of the loaded shotgun, handgun, and knives. Hmm. Yeah, this guy was, he had one thing in mind, suicide by cop. And I don't know oh uh elf support says he thought the officer that got shot was saved by a bulletproof plate
Starting point is 00:39:07 at that range buckshot wouldn't have spread far i didn't see muzzle flash from the perp we got to see the video again yeah i thought i didn't see it either i thought i know but maybe i was wrong and boy you would from a shock wave i mean they what is it 18 20 inch barrel it's very very Very. Oh, yeah. Very short. We can watch the slow motion. Your slow motion will tell us.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Yeah. Stuff that just doesn't read right compared to what happened. Let's go to the slow. Well, we don't get the whole picture. There has to be a camera outside that forier. Oh, for sure. Yeah, for sure. Where he took off his jacket and, but see,
Starting point is 00:40:01 who's watching the cameras? Because, yeah, I would be focused on any camera around that ballroom. Oh, yeah. Not just one guy focused. I would have the Washington police officer, the guy that runs the camera, the Secret Service guy, all those cameras. We're getting one view here. All right, let's see. Here he comes.
Starting point is 00:40:33 it's reported or we think that this guy with the black hair standing closest to the camera is the one that gets shot right because right so he's already got his and he looks like he takes same here yeah
Starting point is 00:40:48 okay let's see if the guy goes back any oh he looks like he did double over there oh he yeah it does a little bit that that's his first shot right second They shoot, he shoots almost at the same time as this guy, if he is shooting.
Starting point is 00:41:09 See, one right there. Right there. He feels the, it looks like he feels the impact unless it's just moving himself. It pulls over a little. Yeah, I'll take that. Yeah. I'll take me one of them. If he got shot that close, that's impressive.
Starting point is 00:41:31 That's a huge marketing opportunity. What do you think that is? We were the manufacturers of the, best that protected that. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Is that three meters? Like hotcakes. Yeah. I mean, that's barely three meters. No, I don't think it's three meters. Like I said, you can spit on him. Hell, back in the day, I could have pissed on him. Not anymore.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Seven feet, probably. Six, seven feet at best. Yeah, I'd say about six, six. feet. The hunter says the guy is right there when he's hand on the box. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:16 He's probably around six something. And you could lay in there and be about as tall as he is. Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. Hunter says maybe he got hit with a ball. Yeah. Like buckshot has more than one. He could have been hit with only one of the balls, maybe.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Well, they found one in his vest. So maybe that's what it was. Maybe the other ones hit and fell out, but they did find one that was lodged in the vest. Hmm. And nobody got hit with any other. That's amazing too.
Starting point is 00:42:58 He's pretty close, so I guess that makes sense. The wand won't even travel that far. Yeah, that's a good one. You're right. Yeah, they're right there. I have shot boxes at that distance to see. see what the pattern was going to go like, and the wad hits the box. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Yeah, that makes sense. Oh, well, that's it then. He's the guy. Yeah, he gets hit with a single ball or something. It pushes him back a little. You can see that. This dude starts ducking rounds of 38 or whatever. This guy's probably got a 9-millimeter.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Like he's in the Matrix. That one goes right over his shoulder. These people don't duck, which is amazing to me. There's two, three shots fired. They're still standing against the wall like targets. Well, I bet they can't believe he didn't shoot his buddy here. I'm amazed that he didn't shoot that guy. I feel like I would have shot that guy by accident.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Well, yeah. I mean, if you're doing that. But there again, stationary, there has to be you stay here, you stay here. That way you're not shooting each other. Do you understand? Oh, yeah. Then the roving patrols, they're the ones that are out there like the dog guy. You need to have both and boy.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Oh, for sure, yeah. Yeah, and I wonder what this guy's doing with his dog here. He must just be holding on to him back there. I guess at that point, they figure you hear a gun. What am I going to let the dog go for? They're shooting the shit up. If it's a dog that's trained to sniff, they're usually not trained to attack. Yeah, and then they hear that.
Starting point is 00:44:38 That might mess them up too. That's loud. Yeah. I used to hear. I mean, if we're wondering why he didn't lease the dog, a canine that a police officer has is trained to do, you know, like they have a suspect in a building. Well, they can let that dog go in the building.
Starting point is 00:45:03 And he's trained to sniff the guy out and, latch on to him. A bomb-kniffing dog or a dog that, you know, for gunpowder is not trained to do that. It's trained that when they sniff something, you know, sit down or bark or do something, alert on whatever he's sniffing. So PBM family, like, oh, Hunter said he had to buy his own gear. the guy who took the 12 that she was a government issued oh that's funny
Starting point is 00:45:42 he'd have been dead right so you know what few things right in these I think it was it's either Sarah or Jordan or both who have always talked about having your kids take off away from you if you're ever in
Starting point is 00:46:03 active shooter situation and to know you know head off in that direction towards the cover if i'm pulling my gun out type of thing right right and uh this is exactly why yeah you put yourself between the shooter and your kids yeah well actually what she always talked about what i think is is even better than that is to send them opposite the the opposite the direction of the instant incident entirely. So like left or right of what's happening. Yeah. You know,
Starting point is 00:46:35 towards the nearest cover. Yeah. Because this is just one of those situations where I, one of the most insane things is that no one else got shot here. I can't believe it. Yeah. Because, I mean, you're lining up on this dude.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Here's another thing. Dave Jones mentioned PT. Now I don't want to pick on this guy. I'm not picking on him. I'm just telling you the importance of PT and I'm telling you, you know, what I see with my. own eyes. This dude, there's no way this guy's going to the gym and squatting ever. No.
Starting point is 00:47:08 This guy with this dress shoes on here that can't get his gun out that almost falls over. Yeah. His legs are crazy, tiny. He looks very thin. Yeah. I don't know if that matters as much to the Secret Service or not, but, or maybe it could be the camera height that makes him look skinny. I don't know. The other thing, though, is the holstering of the web. I mean, we've done, I don't know how many dry fire drills in the routines over how many months.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Yeah. And I know this guy's panicking, but look, it might be you panicking one day. And I just watch him. If you watch the video where Reagan got shot, the Secret Service and that dean are pulling oozy's out faster than this guy can pull a hand gun out. Yeah. I want to watch him full speed try to rassel this gun out, this guy with the skinny legs. I just want to see. He might be tall skinny guy.
Starting point is 00:48:04 He looks pretty tall, actually. I want to see him at real speed because slow speed kind of, you know, it doesn't do anybody justice. He's alert, though. I mean, he's paying it somewhat. He's not really paying that good attention, actually. Here comes a guy. He's not even looking. It seems like a long time.
Starting point is 00:48:25 I think I could get my gun out a lot quicker than that. I don't even train that much. He actually even turned his body before his. gun was yeah yeah that's weird what's the point i would be turning my i would be drawing and turning but you know the we're not hearing the gunshots so he's kind of ducking from the gunshots that's true yeah there's no audio on this video i don't know why yeah there's people falling down the stairs they're falling they fell several times I'm just trying to get away.
Starting point is 00:49:10 They couldn't believe anything happened, I guess. Well. Hey, Elf, support. How are you doing, man? Go to Prepper Broadcasting.com. Sir, we do four shows every day of the week, okay? Monday nights, we sometimes do a Monday. Well, most Monday nights, we actually do a show.
Starting point is 00:49:31 But most of our shows are during the day. In the early morning, we put out a show. Sorry, a guy had chat asked. He said, can I get a schedule of the shows on the network? But go to prepperbroadcasting.com, and you could subscribe to the podcast there, and then you'll get alerted to every show that comes on. Yeah, okay. Just wanted to clear that up.
Starting point is 00:49:54 You will definitely find a cup of tea here at Prepper Broadcasting. Well, you know what? Let's do that real quick, actually, Dave Jones, because you're right on the money. I just want to, like, what we do now this year, 26, it's worth showing because it's so crazy. And today I actually didn't even put church and state up. Oh, I didn't notice that. Church and state is so good, right?
Starting point is 00:50:20 You love it? I know you got to love it. Property Tax Rebellion. So this is prepperbroadcasting.com. Can everybody see this? Let me check. Yeah. Yeah, this is prepperbroadcasting.com.
Starting point is 00:50:30 This is a de facto podcast website. And as you can see, we have our medical Mondays every Monday. Matter of facts, every Monday. Matter of facts is great. I love Andrew. Believe me. Andrew is the man. But Phil really found his co-host in the new guy.
Starting point is 00:50:53 He just, yeah. Yeah, this is crap. I meant that about the daily audio cast. I know. I panicked. I saw that on Sunday and I was listening to. to it. I was like, oh, God, what did he find? What is it? I said, what do I call this? Oh, it was crap, really? I deleted the first one, too. Gosh. Yeah, this show on the digital ID last
Starting point is 00:51:15 week was phenomenal. And then they did a two-parter on the Great Reset. Herbal Medicine for Preppers every week is insane. I got a great thank you from Dave Jones. That was very heartwarming, man. Patriot Power Hour is great every week. Yeah. Yeah. They talk about. a duo there. Yeah, that's a team. Those two. Yeah, that's a team. They fit together like a hand and a glove.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Well, they're a well-oiled machine now, man. I mean, that's just what they are. You know, they're a well-oiled machine. Changing Earth audio drama. Can't get it anywhere else. It's going to be on TV. You might as well listen to it now and be like, oh, I used to listen to that book when it was just an audio drama because.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Yeah, get your spoilers now. Yeah. It's going to be on TV. And they might change things. You never know. She changed things from the books to the audio drama. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:09 The Preper Food Storage Show. That was a good one. Throwback Thursday. We did Dave Jones on the establishment position and prove upon a daily awesome show. We run the shadow late night and this amazing show here that I never knew existed, which is I was a communist for the FBI. It's based on true account. of undercover FBI agent that infiltrated the Communist Party back in the 50s.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Yeah. It's an amazing show. These are actually miscrease reports. For the Times, it really is amazing because if you haven't heard, we're experiencing a communist revolution in the United States currently. If you haven't noticed. So, yeah, we do a Women's Wednesday, every Wednesday. Wednesday. That show was awesome. Sarah Hathaway put together the ladies of Preper Camp roundtable. Great show. That was a great show. That was a great show. I didn't do my show last week, actually. Tactical Tuesday was amazing. Yeah, that guerrilla fighter field crap was awesome. Yeah, I mean, it's it is what it is. Okay. Tell the world. That's all I can tell you. If you really care about the country, there's a lot of people out there who are like really patriotic, really care about the nation. You need to tell people about BBN, okay?
Starting point is 00:53:33 Because who you are right now compared to who you'll be after a year listening to us, even if you do 1% of the stuff, you're going to be better than them guys standing there protecting the president, I think. At least some of them. You know, I can guarantee you that. Hey, now go over the actual exercises that. Oh, yeah, we could do that. Let me bring that up. Because, you know, we all.
Starting point is 00:54:03 always end up over here at the range. And the first time you guys came out, man, Larry pulled out everything. Oh, you're talking about the shooting that we've done together. Yeah, our exercises. Oh, yeah. As your force exercises and Oh, yeah. That's true too. That's true too. Everybody
Starting point is 00:54:27 should take advantage of those. I mean, look, you could do you could do exactly what we did last year. starting today, which was rationer ruin. And we started in May. And rationer ruin, man, will change your whole mentality on survival food. Last year, we did 30 days, the whole month of May. We ate three days out of the week. We did MREs one week.
Starting point is 00:54:49 We did Mountain House Foods one week. We did, and then we did two weeks. No, we did a Jonestead week, which was the best week. And then we did, in other words, the Jonesstead week was Maria's freeze, dried stews. and freeze dried eggs and it was like had your body we did it like week four or three i can't i think it was last week it was the last week we saved the best it was the last week yeah and it felt like the body was like like hungry for real food because we also did a uh mount uh not a mountain house what is it be no i can't think of the name ready hour we did a ready hour week yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:55:28 and i'm telling you the best the best week was the freaking Outside of Dave Jones's food, obviously, was the mountain house. Everything else was kind of a nightmare. But the rest of the week, so you ate three days of the week, the rest of the week it was up to you to feast on the forgeable, fishable, huntable foods that you could acquire. And you know, it really, I did, I did, my dog dispatched a raccoon for me and I broke him down, skinned him.
Starting point is 00:56:02 And man, he was. good. The only problem with the raccoon man was the residual smell. You know what I mean? Because they have this like this pheromone and it was really on me a while. It was on my hands for a while. It was making me sick. Like nauseous. Yeah. And but yeah, what you could. So you learn a bunch of things, right? You learn like, do I like this survival food or not? Which I found out I don't really like it. Even when I'm starving. And then you figure out how how good of a hundred people. hunting foraging fishermen, am I?
Starting point is 00:56:35 And it just so happened that we had the craziest spring. You remember the spring? Oh, yeah. We had freezing temperatures in June. Yeah. Or it was like the last day of May, I think, froze.
Starting point is 00:56:46 And it was rain and it was hell. It was terrible. But you learn so much on those things. We've done. What was the first one? What was the first one they did? The Azure Highland. Yeah, they, they hiked.
Starting point is 00:57:01 There's a first. Did you ever suck water out of a survival straw? That's a good one, because Ben found out that that's no picnic. Ben left his canteen on the trail the very first stop they made, and he didn't have any water for the rest of the trip. And he was taking his life straw and sucking it out of the ditch. Yeah. And there's not a lot of water spots on that Appalachian Trail.
Starting point is 00:57:32 That was a summer, too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I did that summer this year. We did the Appalachian Apparachian me and him, remember? I don't remember if that was June or July or September. I think it was before Preper Camp. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:48 But we did 12 miles on the Appalachian Trail in the dark overnight. Yeah. And we, I don't know how he did it without a canteen. I have no idea. He must have been so dehydrated. Yeah. He must have been so phenomenal. By the time it got here.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Here, even his pants were soaked. He was soaked all the way down to his socks. Just sweat. Uh-oh. Elf support says it looks like there was an assassination attempt on J.D. Vance outside the White House. Damn. Yeah, here we go. Man allegedly opens fire on Secret Service near White House as child injured in chaos.
Starting point is 00:58:25 Oh, my God. Who are these people? Please don't tell me it's another guy that gets to walk away free and, and gets the padded room situation. Upon making contact, that individual fled briefly on foot, withdrew a firearm and fired in the direction of our agents and officers. Quinn said they returned fire and engaged. When asked if the suspect was targeting President Trump in the light of the recent attack,
Starting point is 00:58:55 correspondent, Quinn said he would not speculate. I can't say, I'm not going to guess on that. I could tell you that every time we're, but if you're shooting at the Secret Service, I mean, what are you doing? Yeah. What do you mean, did he or did he not target the president? He didn't show up and be like, I don't like that guy that works at the secret serum shoot his ass.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Yeah. Yeah, they got to make an example, Dave Jones. I know it's not, you know, a friendly thing to say or do, but if you're going to have a rash of assassination attempt, somebody's got to be made an example of because it's just going to keep happening. They're going to get them. It's going to happen if someone's going to kill him, you know. And I think they all want to be a martyr.
Starting point is 00:59:36 every one of them wants to die for the cause. Of course, they do. Their left-wing liberal, miserable people who ruined their life because they live lies. You know what I mean? Yeah, lunatic. That's what it is. Well, thank you for that elf support. I guess more to come on that.
Starting point is 00:59:53 We'll figure out if, God, I hope they shot somebody. That's so horrible to say out loud. But, like, I'm going to feel really bad, like, really nervous if all these. That's what they wanted. Help him out. Helping me, Jesus. Yeah, right? The best thing for them, probably.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Yeah. Like I said, I think it'll keep right on going if they don't do something about it. And I think somebody will get them. I do. I don't think Hunter calls itself delete by cop. Yeah. I mean, geez, you got to, you got to set up the meeting with Jesus. I'm the guy that can arrange it
Starting point is 01:00:37 There you go Yeah I mean that's what you train for right That's what you're hired for Yeah unfortunately I mean but that's the job You know I don't bitch and be like Oh I don't want to say these words on the air today You know what I mean? I don't want to write about this
Starting point is 01:00:53 You're right or you do it as we do But yeah So the Azure Highland was great The Appalachian operation that was phenomenal The best was of course Got them get out that was the best exercise. Yeah, Gotham get out.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Now, that one would wear you guys actually traversed urban terrain to go to a pre-arranged or predetermined, not arranged. Pre-determined, yeah. Yeah, place where you were going to spend the night and there were different caches that were stashed in this urban terrain. Which made the whole thing. Yeah. You collected them all up. You were able to make a camp out of what you collected. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:41 And the key to that exercise, if anybody wants to try it, outside of the caches, what you wound up having was just a long, drawn-out, bug-out hike. You know what I mean? Which was still fine. It was still good. Oh, you know what we forgot about? And I always forget about it. And it is one of the most crucial parts was the point. was the putting together of our gear and outfits.
Starting point is 01:02:06 We started that whole thing at the thrift store, and we had $20 to spend on, we had no coats. It was like 18 or something that night. Yeah, it was terrible. February. And you were both, you were all armed with $25.
Starting point is 01:02:21 That's what it was. And you went in just with the, you know, pants. I had a T-shirt and a long-sleeve under shirt. There you go. Pants, boots. And you had to take that $25. and get what you think you could use for that night. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:38 Yeah. And I still have that. I'll never get rid of that George Mason hat I bought there. Because it's such a great memory, man. But what made it on the traversal part, also, by the way, that was the night that I got to walk by a data center for the first time. And that was an eerie feeling. And now I know why it was so eerie.
Starting point is 01:02:58 But getting to those cash locations, changed the game because it added to the sort of like, like I didn't think about police at all until I got to that first cash location. Yeah. And then I started thinking, oh shit, if I'm playing around inside of this box and some guy, because I didn't know what's in the box. I could open it up. There could be, you know, five rounds of nine millimeter sitting in there.
Starting point is 01:03:22 And actually you did pack us a bullet. You packed us a two, two, three or something. What was it? Yeah, I put a bullet in each one of you guys's caches. And if you knew how to do it, you could pull the bullet out. That's how we started to fire. And use the primer to start a fire. Yeah, we did.
Starting point is 01:03:42 Well, actually what we did, we combined it. I'm pretty sure we combined the Brillo 9 volt and the gun powder. Oh, okay. Because I was trying to go just Brillo. Yeah. But everybody was freezing. And I wasn't having luck. So then I said, you know what?
Starting point is 01:03:59 just dumped the gunpowder out on the thing. And then I used the spark from the brillo and, you know, we were good from then on. But yeah, that, that was amazing. That you learned so much about so much. It was unbelievable. You know, you learned so much about what you could carry and can't carry, you know, from like a scavenge standpoint and what's valuable and not valuable for the night, you know, versus because there were things in the boxes I look at and I would go like,
Starting point is 01:04:26 if this were a long-term thing, I'd definitely take it. yeah although i did one of the long-term things i did wind up taking was all that paracord oh yeah one of the boxes with like a hundred yards of white paracord literally and i was like i'm keeping this just i mean just because you don't have to worry about it just because whatever we cordage up later i know i'm going to have enough yeah but yeah you guys did a great job man at positioning those things that filling those things i mean it was yeah Yeah, and then it was marked. The locations were like marked on a map and you had to find.
Starting point is 01:05:05 Oh, that's right. Yeah, we didn't even. Yeah, you're right. It was a great exercise. I mean, that's an exercise, to be honest with you, that we could probably just get rich off of. Like, we could take everyday people and put them through that and they'd pay us to do that. Oh, yeah. I know they would.
Starting point is 01:05:23 The second part of that was we were supposed to come here and shoot. Dan had hurt his ankle and he ended up getting surgery Yeah So that's right We all kind of stuff for the next day planned But we didn't really sleep Dan slept a little
Starting point is 01:05:43 He tapped He tapped deep into that SF background That didn't slept But Ben and I man We were just nursing that five That fire would have went out It wouldn't have been good Because it was probably like 18 degrees
Starting point is 01:05:57 When Dave Jones showed up the next morning It was cold. I'll tell you it was cold. I said, oh, man, if they did not get a fire started, they were freezing their cahones off. Yeah. I mean, we would have had to been, we would have had to been severely injured all of us. The only way we wouldn't have been able to start a fire with all the stuff you gave us, you know. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:20 And then I pull up there and it looked like a homeless encounter. Yeah. Yeah, well, what we wound up doing? It was the temperature. That's another thing, though. That's a really good lesson, right? It was the idea was like we'd been cold for about eight hours. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:44 And we could have probably been like, you know, let's take our time. Let's put together a nice shelter. It was get some wind break up and get a fire going to ASAP. And then we'll worry about whatever else. And that's exactly how it went down. But to your point, yeah, I'm sure you expected probably like, you know, a ridged line and a roof, you know, when you showed up. Yeah. And all that was like, let's just get something that'll hold our heat in.
Starting point is 01:07:19 Let's get in close. Let's get in. I think Ben had socks on his hands. Did he really? Oh, he did. No, he had like, yeah, he did. He had some kind of weird, like, yeah, they were like frilly. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Yeah, it was, it was, that was amazing. Yeah, those, and like I said, you guys can do that stuff. You know what I mean? Anybody can do those things. You might need a handful of people to do Gotham Get Out. We really should run some people on Gotham Get Out. They would have a ball, man. You know, because that is, that's an awesome exercise.
Starting point is 01:07:53 But all that stuff is invalid. folks and and and i don't think yet any secret service is doing those kinds of things no and it's in the uh archive and yeah we've got actually if you search omnibus just search the word omnibus at prepper broadcasting dot com and you'll get a bug out i think it's the bug out omnibus and i took all the gotham get out and played it in between episodes of different bug out podcasts and it's it's pretty much the whole shebang but i need to put the whole shebang together too in order because it's great. It was just,
Starting point is 01:08:29 it was a great time. Yeah, there's so much. There's so much. And, and, you know, what's important, I think, is for everybody to understand,
Starting point is 01:08:37 like, the routines that we do, the real live training stuff that we've done together, this stuff doesn't eat away our life. Like, it's not like we're like, you know,
Starting point is 01:08:50 I don't got no time because of all this prepping. You know, maybe you, because you guys operate a massive home. You know what I mean? Yeah, but yeah, but at any given time, 50% of what's on our plate we raised or killed or, you know, grew. You know, I'm having a hard time getting grocery or gas points at the grocery store because my, my grocery bill is like less than a hundred bucks.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Yeah. I love it, man. Hey, it's the way. I'm telling you. It is the way that I wish I could sit down. What I would love to do is sit down some of these people, like the guy who decided his best next move is to go shoot the Secret Service or at the White House and sit these people down and tell them, look,
Starting point is 01:09:39 if you really want to be rebellious, like if you really want to make a difference, self-reliance and independence is how you stick it to everybody, you know? That is the goal and should be the goal. And, you know, that sticks it to everybody. otherwise you're you're going to become a suicidal cog in the system things are only going to get crazier yeah your your life will never get better until you make it better that's it that is it you can't depend on someone else to make it better solution game government it's a losing game right yeah ask everybody on government assistance yeah you know you really want to ask is the the
Starting point is 01:10:20 poor seniors in the country yeah yeah you want to depend on uh somebody to make your life better. Ask them how things are going with Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid. Yeah. It's crazy. But I think that's about it. Dave Jones, what do you say? We did an hour and 10?
Starting point is 01:10:40 Yeah, I think we hammered him enough. But I mean, there's just so many different things. Just so many different things. not just to be able to return fire. That's one thing. One thing, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, preparation, positioning of, like you said, obstacles.
Starting point is 01:11:07 Yeah. And even, I mean, I don't know any, I know very, very little about formation. But I could tell you staring into that room, that looked like nobody was thinking about formation before, during, or even after. They were not. they were not placed in position. Right. You know. They were kind of chatting it up a little bit.
Starting point is 01:11:32 Yeah. Well, they were breaking everything down. Yeah. You know, they were thinking mission complete and that guy was thinking mission on. You know, that's that that's the only unanswered question. And if I could have Cole here, I'd ask him that question. I'd say, did you know when and how did you know? when the security checkpoint was breaking down.
Starting point is 01:11:56 Unless he, because he was in the back there, unless he was watching. But if you got a guy in a trench coat wandering around back behind the security checkpoint, like something's way wrong. No, like you said,
Starting point is 01:12:08 there's a roaming guy back there who's going, what the hell? Yeah. What are you doing, bud? And there's surveillance on the stairwell? Because who's, who's that guy going up and down the stairwell so many times?
Starting point is 01:12:20 Because his, his room was, pretty far away from the ballroom and he used this stairwell to go up and down he didn't use the elevators and that's odd unless the guy's trying to get his stairmaster in i don't know my ultimate fear dave and you know i hope this doesn't ever come uncovered but it's the it's just the way my brain works my ultimate fear is that we have a you know a mole yeah i'm Like someone feeding, not information that is completely deadly, but little tidbits because they don't like Trump to begin with. You know, like we're breaking down security at 840.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Okay. We'll be breaking it down. You know, people are going to be busy. There's going to be guys who are typically armed on the ground, putting together, taking apart the metal detectors. They'll be on their needs. Yeah. Because otherwise. Otherwise, that's lucky.
Starting point is 01:13:19 That's as lucky as a man could get. without a little bit of insider info. So, yeah, I don't know. But we could go on and on PBN family. Heed the call. You know what I mean? Pay attention to what we said tonight because things that are set on PBN have a habit of showing up later in the future.
Starting point is 01:13:43 You might find that. That one you played of. Oh, you enjoyed it. That was crazy, dude. I didn't even remember that one. I remembered the show, but I did not know it was like two months away from COVID. And we're talking about viruses and vaccines and face masks. It was literally November 2019.
Starting point is 01:14:07 You guys should go back and listen to you won't believe it. Two months before COVID. I listened to it. And I remember doing the show. I remember as soon as you started telling the story about your daughter, I remembered the show. I was like, oh, there you go. I remember this damn show. but the proximity to the event.
Starting point is 01:14:24 This is what I mean. Like, I don't know. I don't know how to say it any clear. Like, listen, share, spread the word. Yeah. Because you'll hear it. You'll hear the echoes before long. Dave Jones, thank you so much for your time.
Starting point is 01:14:39 Man, I know it's getting late. I appreciate you as usual. It's always a blast. Stay here. And family. More to come tomorrow. Buckle up. Get some rest.
Starting point is 01:14:50 See you guys. Excellent work.

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